You are the one that always starts these arguments instead of just letting people have their point of view.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
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You are the one that always starts these arguments instead of just letting people have their point of view.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I rest my case.
Eyvind Brynildsen @E_Brynildsen
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Did you know there's a new rule for 2017? The cockpit need full padding on the roll cage! Better safety we take bigger risk :) #WRC #R5
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3qyYGFWEAQ3PEx.jpg
Seemed to be more Kubica-back-to-WRC momentum picking up after the Monte. Interesting to see he's entered Le Mans and the WEC in LMP1. Albeit a non-competitive car.
I'd say that has to rule him out of any significant rally programme this year. Even if he is currently testing the Abarth.
There wasn't any chance for a significant rally program for this year, especially after VW exit and three better names on the market. Robert hasn't done anything towards rally program over last few months.
http://rallyzone.ru/.contents/110284...35773461/0/ru/
He already ruled out private entry after Wales 2015. You can't compete with 10-12 people team against over 100 factory crews. With no manufacture drive offer on the table, we won't see Kubica at WRC level.
It's a shame. I still believe he's able to win WRC round, at least on tarmac with a decent car. It would be some achievement to win both WRC rally and F1 race.
If i remember correctly, Kubica wanted to participate but lost his main sponsor LOTOS?
Yes, he still wanted to do few rallies with better preparation in 2016 but due to pollitics Lotos management has changed and the sponorship was shut down. Sadly Lotos wan't as loyal as Kubica after 2013, when he turned down Citroen offer with WRC drive.
Even second Lotos driver Kajto (2x ERC champion and 4x Polish champ) has difficulties with a proper rally program. By proper I mean ERC or WRC2 season.
After having tested Fiat 124 yesterday Kubica will test Hyundai R5 today.
I also have heard about him participating full time at WEC not only first round. I hope that.
kubica wec programQuote:
Originally Posted by AL14
http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/127976
Eyvind Brynildsen @E_Brynildsen 4h
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There's not only new rules for roll cage padding. There's also a new fire extinguisher system for R5! A lot of work!! #WRC #FIA #hardwork
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Latvala admits he became obsessed with copying Ogier at VW WRC
https://www.autosport.com/news/repor...-copying-ogier
I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand I think that he is a strange guy because he is pratically humiliating himself publicy showing his weakness in this way. On the other hand I admire him because he is man enough to share his feelings without being ashamed about them. And actually, if you think about it, there is nothing to be ashamed of.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Still, what he says is that Ogier has beaten him so badly that he lost his mind.
Anyway, it is very nice to know this side of the struggle of WRC drivers and is good that there are nice and open people like him to share it with us.
Interesting interview with Prokop for sport.cz
https://www.sport.cz/moto/rallye/cla...or.html#hp-sez
He claims that his team almost secured VW cars for 2017 season.
Full quote:
Everything was agreed. Red Bull would be involved, as Ogier's partner. Three cars would be run by our team in Jihlava. VW board knew that the budget would correspond to czech circumstances. Ogier even agreed to skip Monte Carlo noting that he would 14 have more days with his family. But in the last minute before signing the deal one regular WRC competitor got interested. He promised Qatar money to Volkswagen. Everything got stucked. Ogier shown his tolerance and postponed his signing twice. When he finally had no other option, he signed for Ford. And actually, I did too.
"I even had brake support under the pedals like he had. I was trying everything."Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Quote Jari-Matti Latvala
I think this might be a misunderstanding between the journalist Latvala, but if any of you have other info please share.
If the quote is correct Latvala had something mounted under his pedal to assist braking. Since ABS etc is illegal, I cant really understand what this might be.
My best explanation is that he is talking of a diff setting with brake support (lower ramp angle on braking) but I am not sure.
What I thought is something like some kind of cushion to help him breake easy when needed. But I'm not the best one to guess this kind of stuff :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lundefaret
this sounds very interesting, basically very little was left to make actually 3 Polo's run this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walach
All this info regarding cage padding and fire extinguisher (and anti-torpedo tabs, racing fuel tanks or general circuit breaker) were announced in advance during previous year. So I dont know why he is so surprised. For most of the teams this is not new info...Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Great new info finally shedding some light on what was going on behind the scenes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walach
I dont quite see why this deal didnt happen since the other interested party didnt make a deal happen in the end...
I suppose it was a time issue and Ogier needed to get his 2017 seat confirmed.
The biggest problems remains the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
So far, the car is not allowed to be homologated, regardless of whether there was money there or not...
Four-time world champion in the Czech team? It was not a utopia, but a triumph for the big battle is Norwegian.
Four-time world champion in the Czech service ?! It was not a sci-fi, but a serious deal.
Czech racing driver Martin Prokop and his team had Jipocar under the wings of Frenchman Sebastien Ogier. "Everything had been agreed.
It ruined the only person to whom it is not dependable or, It destroyed the only person which is not reliable,, " he says in an interview with Sport.cz.
Any Czech speaker properly translate this ?
Čtyřnásobný mistr světa v českých službách?! Nešlo o sci-fi, ale seriózní dohodu. Nechybělo mnoho a český automobilový závodník Martin Prokop se svým týmem Jipocar měl pod křídly Francouze Sébastiena Ogiera. „Vše bylo dojednané. Zhatil to jediný člověk, na nějž není spoleh," říká v rozhovoru pro Sport.cz čtyřiatřicetiletý pilot a odkrývá plány do budoucnosti.
Where is Mirek when we need him? :D
In his taverna :beer:, and enjoying life!Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Sorry guys, I just came back home, packing stuff and rushing to Austrian Alps for skiing. You can ask PLuto or Walach for details of the article ;)
Nechybělo mnoho a český automobilový závodník Martin Prokop se svým týmem Jipocar měl pod křídly Francouze Sébastiena Ogiera. „Vše bylo dojednané. Zhatil to jediný člověk, na nějž není spoleh,"
Something like this:
Little was missing and czech racing driver Prokop with his Jipocar team had Ogier under his wings.
,,Everything had been dealt with. It was thwarted by the only person that can't be relied on.''
Brake support under pedal. Could it be servo assistant braking like on streetcars? I had such on my Ascona B together with twin cylinder brake (front/rear), constructed and built by myself. Worked much better than without which demands much more power from left foot.
I dont know why Prokop is trying to stir it up again. It was clear at that time that to run 17' VW cars they had to get homo's - that is minimum cost 15 millions to commit for 2017. Prokop didnt had that much, he was hoping for RedBull etc to chip in - so was that other person from his interview. Neither came up with money to the deadline, so now all this story is history... And its no way 17' VW cas were handed to czech team - deal was that VW motorsport staff would be looking after the cars, Prokop should stop telling his wet dreams... sorry, nothing against him, but he talks rubbish. Everyone is entitle to have dreams, talk about them, but please dont try to rewrite history...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ljuke
Yes he had never the confidence of the best driver around, but I don't think it is self humiliation, more like "one of those things I have tried to improve myself". It didn't work. Why it's another question probably he should look deep in his mind and figure it out for himself. Nobody will give the answer on a plate.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
I have to disagree once more. I don't believe he feels this way. Yes, Ogier is the best driver around and we all know this, it isn't some kind of surprise. Copying his driving on the other hand is worse than keeping your own style, trying to improve it in the most weak parts, and of course the result last year showed exactly this.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
All in all its good some drivers realize there is a room for improvement, it depends which direction they'll take. Some approach may work for one, and be disaster for somebody else.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Citroen, Hyundai against homologation of 2017 Volkswagen
http://www.rallysportmag.com.au/home...017-volkswagen
Certainly in the case of Citroen - you have to wonder whether VW are slightly paying for all the dumb stuff Capito said.
Like Nandan says it's kind of ironic how the tables have turned.
It is clear that Citroen and Hyundai don't want more competition.
Why? Because the are scared. Ford are playing neutral, but we all know they are scared too.
Current Team point system guarantees collection of points on each event, as long as driver reaches the finish line.
More WRC2017 cars = less chances to get points.
Yes, they are under huge pressure to deliver, but this is behavior of a looser.
Well, if one tells that we`re done here, won`t participate in any way, then says that ok, we could rent 2016 cars with the whole package to all who can pay for it (fine) and then a few weeks later they want to participate the whole season with 2 cars and Qatar sponsorship....even better but thenfail a talk about letting one car compete a few times. It`s inappropriate for a BIG German company like VAG (ok, with big money issues). If you said no you should meen it and do it properly (no one can say anything about 2018 full season return).
Again, why let competition run on a different rules? Citroen and Hyundai are fully committed to the WRC while VW pulled out and now wants to have special permit to compete. While it is good for spectators it is not equal to the committed teams. Scared is quite wrong word for this. It all should happen on equal basis. You can put this scared card back in to your pocket and put yourself in the position of Hyundai and Citroen management. Quite logical decision from them and I'm not surprised. Imagine Nandan and Matton substantiate their decision letting VW in to the board of Citroen and Hyundai. They would be fired immediately.Quote:
Originally Posted by jparker
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but how can they lose?! championship started already, the can't compete in manu championship, ogier is not their driver... bad reputation for citroen and hyundai for me after this
Again what? How many times you have to repeat this statement, without reading what others are saying?Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
Citroen and Hyundai should say nice and clear, if VW is about to return, we want this, this and this paid for. If you don't like it, bye bye.
Nobody here wants VW sneaking into WRC, and getting unfair advantage, but Citroen and Hyundai don't even want to consider VW return, or at least that's my understanding?
Because there is only one way in to the WRC.
Aha, Citroen and Hyundai folks are cowards, quite mature of you. No need to discuss this any further.
No,it's not, and it's not up to teams to figure this out. This is FIA's job. Is the only way for the scared, and yes, they are cowardsQuote:
Originally Posted by cali
jparker you miss the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by jparker
VW have already missed the boat when they didn't homologate the car, and didn't enter Monte Carlo.
That means they're out.
Any attempt to bring them back in - regardless of fees paid etc - would be to create an unequal playing field.
Even just the extra time they've had than the others to potentially make changes to the car before homologation is a competitive advantage.
As ever the FIA are just trying to blame others by putting the 'decision' back on the other competitors to decide. It means they can just shrug their shoulders and not actually make any real decision.
OK, that's fine then. But one who wants to prove it's the best of the best, should welcome more competition, because it will prove more.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
...and if it were genuine competition on a level playing field I'm sure the other teams wouldn't have had a problem. BUT to not commit to long haul rounds and allow pick and choosing of the prestige European events (i.e max publicity for the win) is just not an acceptable business model. A world championship car has to be homologated before a private team can use it, end of!Quote:
Originally Posted by jparker
Well, whoever is scared, it will make all rules available to protect them, and will keep crying "that's not fare". Real contenders are saying "bring it in". That's the difference between winner and looser.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory