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Tanak: “I definitely tried very hard from my side to drive them forward,”
“Beginning of the year was still quite hopeful. Then somehow we lost the track and there was not much happening. But yeah, I really hope that they get back on the track and back where they belong.
“I hope he [Malcolm Wilson] finds somebody a bit more consistent than I’ve been!” Tänak added. “Because I’ve been quite a tough product in the beginning I guess.
“But I believe they’ll hopefully have some other guys coming.”
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/tanak...re-it-belongs/
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I don't understand the ,,I hope he [Malcolm Wilson] finds somebody a bit more consistent than I’ve been!” part from Tanak..
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I don't understand the ,,I hope he [Malcolm Wilson] finds somebody a bit more consistent than I’ve been!” part from Tanak..
I think he is talking in general that they are heading back down the young driver route again and that he, Tanak was a bit inconsistent for a number of years before he came good and he hopes they find a young guy that is more consistent.That’s how I read it anyway
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That way it makes sense yes.
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M-Sport Ford World Rally Teams
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It seems as if Skoda may end up with a better driver lineup than this..
Nothing against Formaux-Munster but they would have made good 2nd and 3rd drivers with someone a bit more experienced in the No1. car, even someone cheap like Suninen or Mikkelsen.
But at least M-Sport stay in the game..
Lindholm WRC2 plus selected 3rd car Rally1 outings?
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Is it the worst Ford line-up ever?
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Santa Serderidis :D
Hopefully they both do good season.
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It seems as if Skoda may end up with a better driver lineup than this..
Nothing against Formaux-Munster but they would have made good 2nd and 3rd drivers with someone a bit more experienced in the No1. car, even someone cheap like Suninen or Mikkelsen.
But at least M-Sport stay in the game..
Lindholm WRC2 plus selected 3rd car Rally1 outings?
Would be a good deal for Lindholm; the Rally2 car has improved a lot last year and it would give him some Rally1 experience against affordable drivers in the same car.
Most logical may be the fast gravel period in Rally1 (Poland-Latvia-Finland) and a Sweden-Croatia-Portugal-Sardinia-Greece-Chile-Europa calendar in Rally2. Would be also a better stuff than what Huttunen did some years ago (only one outing is not very relevant in my opinion).
Fourmaux-Munster… let’s see but not really convinced about Munster potential except maybe for the 4 gravel events.
They will have to rely on Fourmaux’ speed and the lack of drivers in other teams to do some podiums.
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Is it the worst Ford line-up ever?
Sadly very possibly. :(
And its appropriate you say Ford, as it's mainly thanks to their lack of full-factory team investment that better drivers aren't affordable.
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To be precise, it’s the first time since Ford left M-Sport that M-Sport has a line-up without a driver having already made a podium in career.
And even the 1st time for Ford if we include since 1986 even if there were close sometimes (2003, 2005, 2015, 2021).
But I think a lot will depend on their bet on Fourmaux; if Fourmaux succeeds in adding consistency to his speed, I think he can do a couple of podiums and M-Sport having a season like 2015 or 2019 (and avoid a new 2021 season).
And it could work, it’s not totally a dumb bet considering what he has shown last year and the limited number of competitors in other teams.
I’m much more skeptical about Munster, a bit like Loubet, for other reasons. Maybe on the 4 tarmac events he could do something reasonable (4th position with some speed) but on gravel… (except the other retiring)
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Look at Ford's Mustang GT3 line up of drivers......Ford have got the cheque book out for them. They do have money for motorsport - just not for their WRC effort.....
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Look at Ford's Mustang GT3 line up of drivers......Ford have got the cheque book out for them. They do have money for motorsport - just not for their WRC effort.....
Despite insisting that the WRC only has value for them with the hybrid car… Yet it’s still not enough to provide M-Sport with the proper resources needed to compete with Hyundai and Toyota :rolleyes:
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I wouldn't only blame Ford for that.. Finally it's M-Sport who prepares the cars.
They got Tanak for this year and still couldn't up their game.
So many recurring errors and issues that shouldn't be on there. I don't even talk about any updates about the car.. no point for updates if the car doesn't work anyway.
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Unreliability aside, the car itself can be fast and I believe most of the issues were to do with it not suiting Tanak's driving style.
And solving any issues and development does cost money which their budget just isnt there to allow. And remember that a big chunk went on paying Tanak in the first place.
Not only have M-Sport not got the factory-backing cash like Toyoya & Hyundai, they have lost a lot of sales with/since Covid and the unsuitablilty of the Rally1 car for private drivers.
Fighting with one arm tied behind your back is tough. We should be glad they havent just quit WRC by now.
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I wouldn't only blame Ford for that.. Finally it's M-Sport who prepares the cars.
They got Tanak for this year and still couldn't up their game.
So many recurring errors and issues that shouldn't be on there. I don't even talk about any updates about the car.. no point for updates if the car doesn't work anyway.
Where does the development budget come from if M-Sport doesn’t have 100% manufacturer backing from Ford? This is clearly nothing like the days between 1997-2012 when it was a full factory team.
M-Sport haven’t become incompetent all of a sudden, they don’t have the same resources of Hyundai and Toyota. If in the old days M-Sport produced a duff car or got caught behind on development you could blame them for dropping the ball, but in the current situation it’s nonsense to expect anything better than the 3rd best car each year.
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Ford M-Sport entered the "target" of a major investor – Information leaked but signatures did not fall
The day after the statements, the English media published that a strategic investor, with Greek roots, is entering M-Sport, aiming for a very high percentage of the company. Nothing official yet. However, as the saying goes "where there's smoke there's fire" something is up and we'll find out shortly before the first WRC race in Monte Carlo.
https://www.zougla.gr/automoto/racin...es-den-epesan/
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The article says that British media wrote about M-Sport’s new investor but I cannot a single British article about this.
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What??? Greek??
greek roots = Serderidis?
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The article says that British media wrote about M-Sport’s new investor but I cannot a single British article about this.
thats why i posted here,maybe some mates from UK have read something about that,to confirm it.
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I've not seen anything and tried to search and still found nothing.
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The chances of Zougla of all places having an exclusive about investments on M-Sport are below zero.Just ignore it.
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Yes but normally Zougla do not even know what M-Sport is, this is why it is really weird they published this article.
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bomber21
The article says that British media wrote about M-Sport’s new investor but I cannot a single British article about this.
Maybe this comment on this thread was considered "the English media"...? :D
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Santa Serderidis :D
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greek roots = Serderidis?
If there was any truth at all in this story then it would have to be Serderidis, with his love of rallying, purchase of a Puma & support of Munster. Maybe the latter could've also brought about a more general investment in M-Sport.
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The UK companies that Malcolm Wilson is involved in are listed here:
https://find-and-update.company-info...g/appointments
Serderidis does not appear in the UK Companies House listings, so if he is involved it's either with a foreign company or with no directorial control.
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Oh boy.. M-Sport doesn't stop to surprise with their liveries..
Looks awesome to me!
https://www.wrc.com/a/news/w27211
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDou7xXX...jpg&name=small
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Only one small Fleetback logo on the rear. Obviously Serderidis hasn't become a major investor...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDo3vPEW...jpg&name=large
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At least Msport can get the livery looking good.
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OH thats really beautiful! I just dont get why RedBull sponsor that guy haha
But ahh what a lovely car! Go Msport
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The space taken up by Red Bull-logos appears considerable given the lack of a top name. It may mean nothing, but the implicit signal is that they are committed to M-Sport, which would bode well should an established driver (hint: Loeb) be available for the odd event or two.
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I gotta admit that I'm supriesed that Red Bull is still sponsor.
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Ford and Red Bull are joined at the hip these days....
I imagine the 'full factory' effort at Dakar next year will have Red Bull all over it too.
