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Feels like Ogier has a realistic shot at the title, depending on how Finland goes. If he outscores the rest again, it's on. He will take part in CER and Japan, where he could be considered a favourite for victory and at least one of Greece and Chile with a favourable starting position.
WRC Tet Rally Latvia 2024 Crash, Rally2 Mistake, Moments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8eJoiCnTkI
Im afraid that some technical issue in Greece will decide the title.
I have that feeling as well. Hyundai has been surprisingly reliable this year. No major technical issue for Tanak, apart from gremlins, and only 1 for Neuville (broken fuel pump in Safari). I think if Neuville or Tanak get one technical DNF more than the other, that will be decisive. I don't even count Evans and Ogier in this, since they drive the tank Toyota, they just need to be fast to win the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by CeskyOndra
Of course, there's driver mistakes as well.
So between the top 3 since 2022: Evans won on tarmac twice, both times last year in Croatia & Japan; Ott only has won win in Ypres back in 2022 & Thierry has won 3 times, in Japan ‘22, CER last year and Monte-Carlo his latest win so effectively has the upper hand in those last two events…assuming he doesn’t lose more than say 25 points in the next 3 events, it’s his to lose. Mind you, Evans has yet to win this year while both Ott & Thierry have one win a piece….2024 will go down to the wire imho, especially with this complicated scoring system, I honestly hope they sort it out for next year so that at the base of it the one who finishes first still gets the most points.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrLill
man, that was a fun rally to watch. sesks made it awesome. hoping for a good performance for pajari too in the next round.
ahh soo refreshing
Im so excited for Finland already :D Luckily Its just 10 days!Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Tanak to the arch video
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BTgKG5ti8qQWgiS/
And nobody fking warning them on the side of the road.. so stupid.
It seems Thierry has a different and more sensible approach this year. Compared to previous years he has been a lot more stable and has made much less mistakes. Usually the speed and driving has seemed a lot of times to be over the limit and then things started to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Lets see, if he can keep it going this way till the end. Otherwise I agree with previous comments. Thierry will be the favorite for the last two events.
pretty dangerous!Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
People standing next to the fallen arch like morons, thinking that next driver will push the KITT ,,turbo boost'' button and jump over.
Yes, I like Tanak's driving, but at this moment it doesn't matter if it was Tanak, Neuville, Ogier or any other tens and tens of drivers, who put all their effort in this sport..
Luckily it didn't end anyones rally and were able to continue, but could easily be a roll and dnf.
And then.. ,,oh sorry..''
on the video dirtfish posted where tanak is 'fixing' the aero on the car after this incident, you can hear he talking to evans around 2:53 min about "normally there would be marshalls" at the location. ott says "the marshall was just filming it". he laughs after that. not sure there was actually a marshall "not doing" their jobs but eh, maybe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQKdp3CeMCM
Rally Latvia fast driving
https://youtu.be/CrUN_UK_WO0
ogier laughing and joking that he should say "yes, maybe im doing the rest of the championship" to scare hyundai team haha
i bet dirtfish will have 4 different articles on this sentence during the next 3 days =P
I was a bit underwhelmed with this rally. The drivers were mostly sorted into road position order on Friday, and mostly stayed there for the rest of the rally.
The stages on Friday were not so great but they started to pick up Saturday, and SS 12 was very good. Then we lost visuals for a lot of it.
Tanak was seriously impressive. I feel like everybody has been warned.
My guys Evans and Pajari did as well as I expected but not quite as well as I hoped.
Heikkila was good — hats off.
I'm not sure what to make of Sesks. He did very well, but then we knew he was pretty good and he had all the advantages. If Lappi had had this rally with this road position I wouldn't have raised an eyebrow, but Sesks is new. He looks like he could be somebody's third driver for gravel. I think the most interesting thing is that he seemed just as happy in the hybrid as the non-hybrid, and happier in his first WRC1 hybrid outing than Lappi did after six months off WRC1. I bet a few people at Hyundai are looking at Lappi and Mikkelsen with questions.
I heard before rally Croatia that Ogi will be doing rest of the events, that he doesn't like being off and not driving so much. I couldn't believe it and now its true.Quote:
Originally Posted by saco0o
That ended very well for Tanak. Was fu*cking dangerous lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
And why not pointing a finger to the TV producer?
The hyde all the situation.
Why did they did that? Doing that were not they hiding the situation from de Race Control?
I think that hiding that moment from the TV transmission was something unaceptable.
So you expect the TV producer to show a potential accident?Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
What does that have to do with the actions of Race Control?
It's quite easy, some "big name" was closing in on the local hero, this has happened before, lots of times.
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Lappi had first weak gravel (speedwise) since 2020.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morte66
Mikkelsen just did first gravel since 2019 and did better than Sesks in Latvia on same type of rally.
Myself I am more surprised that nobody compared Sesks with Fourmaux who has now had 1,5 seasons in the car and is constantly glorified for his results this year.
Seks was close to him without hybrid and clearly faster with it.
Is it just the driver or is the Puma now much better and Fourmaux actually underperforms?
Don’t know if this was posted here https://x.com/rallyinguk/status/1815...C1kV5QC61vX5Xg
it would be unfair to compare Sesks and Fourmaux at Monte.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Yes. Sesks won both Poland and Latvia before and it's normal to expect him being fast there. The ERC level isn't that bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Fortunately I didn't need to to that on a WRC event but as a spectator who stopped/slowed down cars coming to an accident site numerous times I can't understand people just waiting for the inevitable crash with their cameras on...Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
Probably, almost sure, the race Control was following the TV transmission as is usual to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
We have to wait by the investigation, but i wouldn't be surprised if at that momment the race control didn't knew what was really going on with that arch being down.
Yes bystanders, marshals, control could have done things.
But it's not such a blind corner.
Is it not unreasonable to expect the driver to either:
i) attempt to slow down and go around the obstruction
ii) attempt to stop despite hitting the obstruction.
Only one person made the decision to put his foot down hoping to blast through to the other side.
:bomb:
I was noticing it too but you are the first to say it. It looked like Ott didnt even try to break and just floors it.
I could be wrong but that is what I saw and heard from those crappy videos.
If you want to win, never give up. Ott didn´t give up. He tried.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
Essential to know why some win and some doesn´t even try... ;)
Well if you watch the Dirtfish video posted right after the incident at regroup. You can hear Tänak saying to Fourmaux that he was basicly F* it and tried to go through but it didnt, and to Evans he sayd exaclty that he went on full throttle to go through it but it instantly snapped the wheels to lock and stopped the car. But i think it is normal in that situation from drivers perspective? Ott was having a massive attack and had a massive split times compared to others before the incident. You have few seconds to react and he decided to floor it and try to go through. Seems only logical if you are trying to close in on a podium position.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
Tanak is one hell of a good driver, but he seems often very stupid as a person.
I wonder if he tried to do the same thing with the deer. Just say fuck it, drive straight into it and hope through some miracle he escapes unscathed.
There could have been another car or whatever obstacle behind that arch. Driving full throttle into it is only something a drunk destruction derby driver would do.
Clearly the arch was down enough as seen in the video that he saw there was nothing behind it and regarding the Deer, i think it was mentioned that the time between seeing the deer and impact was around 1 second or less if i remember correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
Any ''analysis'' of this situation past the fact that the organizers failed to stop the car is meaningless.
A person who claims a driver deliberately maybe tried to drive into a deer seems the stupid one to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
The arch was still significantly higher than his car. He could not see what was behind it. But he did saw a big object blocking the road and he decided to crash into it as fast as he could.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyest
No it isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by mmm
You are right that this is the fault of the organisers. There should have been marshals there and the stage should have been red flagged as soon as the arch started sagging.
But what any sensible driver should do when he sees something blocking the road is brake as hard as possible to limit the damage, stop and contact race control to let them stop the stage. Race control will then give him the lost time back.
These kind of accidents are giving clues as to why Tanak's car so often breaks when others don't.
Yes, you are correct, very sensible thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
A person going 189km/h on narrow forest road deliberately drives into a big animal.
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“If it was standing on the road, I would not have hit it,” he told DirtFish.
Tanak probably had no more than a second or two to decide what to do when seeing the arch on the road.
His vast experience would tell him they are inflatable and not a very solid object even when deflated. He took a chance hoping to go over it and unfortunately it got tangled in the wheels, but a heavy impact was never going to happen.
If he'd managed to go over it and continued he wouldn't have made such a an issue of it all.
I think he meant to go under it, arch was quite high up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Amazing that people on here are insisting that people who may or may not have any idea about rallying are supposed to run down the road and stop a car from hitting a bit of plastic/rubber. This isn’t the way it’s done these days and I doubt there was any danger to Tanak, he could easily have driven around it and then requested the time back. In fact he put anyone standing near it at risk as it could have hit someone who was trying to help.
So poor form for all involved I’d say. And especially poor comments from Tanak at the stage end.