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When Hyundai was clever? To you say “again”…
Not the first time they have been giving false information or using mule car in tests and then claiming that everything has been redone etc etc etc shall I continue or don't you remember how the Arctic Rally was won?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
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There's not so much worth looking at on that Hyundai show car. Certainly nothing can be learned about the packaging or chassis design, and probably not very much about the aero either. While M-Sport and Toyota's cars were getting plenty of close attention in Salzburg, the i20 was... not. Whether by mistake or through careful planning, they've at least kept their cards up their sleeve for another couple of days.
The cars are homologated so the cards are on the table, no one can change major things anymore except through homologation jokers (and at the same time homologation jokers should be used for constant development)Quote:
Originally Posted by ouvreur
Yeah I doubt anyone will use jokers based on how other cars look like.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Unless there are major issues I don't expect many jokers before april. (with the possible exception of Hyundai).
In the meantime there will be tons of opportunities for detailed pictures of every part of the cars from the outside and trough windows.
When Toyota came up with the CD rack rear aero, Hyundai and Ford followed soon. Difficult to say if there was some similar revolutionary solutions for the other teams. Yaris aero mirrors?Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
You only used jokers in allowed windows.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Hyundai changed first in GB 2017 and only for Neuville so some 8 months later.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Ford changed for Finland 2018, 1,5 year later.
And those were only area increases not some massive redesign everywhere like the 2020 C3.
No, true, but there's plenty that can be done slightly differently even on a homologated car, even details as fine as the orientation and positioning of the spare wheels can have an influence. Also, just keeping the other teams guessing for another couple of days is worth something, even if it's just to annoy them :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
i.e. Puma showed small bits that didn't have in the test car
Discussing the position of the spare wheel was a thing 17 years ago when Focus 06 was introduced. That's the last experiment I recall.Quote:
Originally Posted by ouvreur
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/rally...appen-in-2022/
Rally NI not happening in 2022. Replacement list likely to include Ypres and Monza.
Shame but please no Monza.
I’d like to see Germany back
Actually I was also hoping for Deutschland, having heard rumors about it somewhere (here?). Even though Deutschland is one of my least favourite rallies. Ypres would be nice as well.
I really really hope we don’t get Monza for a third year running. I’d love it if Deutschland would be back, if not then Ypres and if they can’t make it then perhaps France, perhaps Corsica? All wishful thinking of course. I just hope NZ won’t be cancelled again.
Monza is the lazy choice - and it could be good if they actually did more running in the mountains, and less at the circuit, but they don't........I quite liked Deutschland, but it became a bit stale. I wouldn't say no to a return to Ypres, but they need to increase the km on the Sunday, for the distance they have to travel.
As for no UK round for another year, well, "you reap what you sew". MSUK were seemingly asleep on the job for a number of years and just expected Wales to keep backing the event. It beggars belief that an event that used to get huge crowds, media coverage, etc not only isn't in the WRC, it can't even run as a national event.
Both Monza and Ypres are bad, each in their own way. Out of those Monza has maybe most potential for "character change".
It's funny as Ypres is the 2nd most compact rally on the calender (behind Monza) in terms of stage km / total km.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
I prefer a compact rally with 1 long liaison over a rally full of half long liaisons.
Also, on rallies like Monte Carlo, a 3 hour liaison is common.
Can we maybe see Czech rally now when Stovicek is trying to push it into WRC?
I think it's too early. Normal rallies who plan to run in August have their route now planned etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenneth
Very sad news on Rally NI 2022.
It was our last best hope of a UK return of the WRC in the one area that has shown ANY real interest in putting on an event here.
I fear if Rally NI doesnt happen in 2023 then that will be end for a WRC rally ever again in this country.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/who-w...6SKD2zLw7ccY3I
Not really news, but might be of interest regardless.
They did forget Ogier?
One has to ask the MSUK, why are they(NI) the only area/region showing any interest? Pretty damning in all honesty for MSUK that they've made a mess of the event.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
https://www.rallye-sport.fr/s-loeb-j...tout-le-temps/
Loeb says he will not be in Croatia.
Neither Ogier (said «*not before Portugal*»)
Apparently, it is pretty sure for Ogier’s entry in Portugal and Portugal is also compatible with Rally Raid and Extreme E calendar. A new fight between the 2?
From what I saw before, Portugal and Spain were the most compatible rallies for Loeb with rally-raid and Extreme E and also the TBD August round; Safari possible but more complex. All of them make sense for Loeb (victory in Catalunya not that far away, tarmac TBD and maybe Germany, good road position in Portugal, Safari road position + partially rally raid approach even if less than the old Safari) so I think they will find an agreement for 2 or 3 of these ones (all the more now with his victory that raises his PR ranking again). Don’t think more than this because Loeb has been quite clear he doesn’t want too much races.
For Ogier, with WEC where he seems to discuss for a full LMP2 program, Portugal, Kenya, the TBD August round, New Zealand and Spain are compatible (I forget the Nordic rallies). And Latvala said Toyota wants him in Japan for PR (same weekend than WEC Bahrain); probably 4 to Pick among these 6. I remember Ogier told he liked a lot Safari so I would bet Portugal and Safari for the next ones. Ogier said it should be discussed soon as his WEC program is finalizing.
Latvala’s bet recently was MC, Croatia, Sardinia, New Zealand and Japan so a little far from this.
They're a bandit operation.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/loeb-...ttle-in-kenya/
No fact but more some assumptions about the calendar and the conflicts with their other championships.
It’s not evoked in the article but also Galmiche’s calendar may be in the mix as she is a math teacher (even if in some special sort of school) so, as the preparation is much more important and long for a world rally in main class, she may not afford to be outside anytime (different than the rallies she has done so far in the number of days to spend) and Loeb seemed to stick with her for all his stints which is logical.
And I would not be surprised for Ogier as he was very enthusiastic (which is not frequent with him, I precise it’s not a criticism) about Safari and he says it again.
Gregor Pavsic
@GregorPavsic
According to official press release, WRC stays in Croatia for at least 3 years. Great news. @croatia_rally
@OfficialWRC
@voiceofrally
#wrc #croatia @DirtFishRally
@McKlein_Rally
Sounds interesting!
https://www.upload.ee/image/13834639..._Instagram.jpg
Ogier announced doing WEC season so likely he's not driving Acropolis and Japan. Also Le Mans is only week before Safari Rally so likely he has to skip that.
Rally Sardinia moves to Alghero - as it was announced last year - but still has SSS in Olbia. Power Stafe Argientiera is in itinerary again.
https://www.rallyitaliasardegna.com/...-2022/?lang=en
Kalle Rovanpera says the World Rally Championship's new cars are "tricky" to drive on snow, requiring a "lot of work in the cockpit" following a first test in the conditions.
https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...-snow/7795871/
Kris Meeke and Mads Ostberg in Skodas from SRT in Qatar Rally
https://twitter.com/MotorsportSkoda/...20009529843721
#ROCSweden
@RaceOfChampions
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This is going to be extra special. Smiling face with heart-shaped eyes
1994 #WRC world champion and ROC's all-time record holder Didier Auriol returns! Auriol will team up with @SebastienLoeb
, who also has a chance to equal Didier's record of four individual ROC wins. Flag of France
Petter Solberg
@Petter_Solberg
The @RaceOfChampions
draw has been done, and I'll be up against my friend @SebastienLoeb
in the first round! Flexed biceps Let's hope that Monte win took some energy out of him! Face with tears of joy
And if I get through, in the next round I could come up against @OliverSolberg01
...!OK hand #ROCSweden
https://dirtfish.com/rally/auriol-jo...mpions-lineup/
I didn't know RoC was still a thing. Last time I watched it was some ten years ago :)
Good!Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Huh that's all kinds of unexpected. Østberg part, Meeke was mentioned by Skoda themselves before as a candidate and is testing the new car for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom K
Does it mean it's completely over with Citroen? Is Skoda in some way paying for the start?
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Originally Posted by TypeR
https://tv.apple.com/us/movie/sebast...k2saqq85872k0c
Rally Paradise
@rallyparadise
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Did not see this coming,but very clever! Like @TGR_WRC
#Toyota now also @HMSGOfficial
#Hyundai´s official testing place is located in #Finland! That´s why they are testing there during this week for #RallySweden. It will be very busy year for Finnish professional spectators! #WRC
Hyundai have chosen to use Jämsä, Finland, as their permanent testing site for 2022 #WRC season. They are following Toyota's example as TGR have used the roads near their HQ for testing since their return to the series.
from https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/s...69942783479808
Solberg also said to finnish TV news today somethin like that if you can make the car work here(Finland), it works everywhere