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I actually had this thought today. It’s chassis balance certainly looks much better (strong rear end) and confidence inspiring, so it wouldn’t surprise me if it was at least as quick in a lot of circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by MentalParadox
Are you sure ?Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
Gryazin is allowed to drive full WRC17-21 spec ?
What about Katsuta, Loubet and Veiby ? They all have driven in B-teams not in Manufactures
For sure, but with Bertelli we're not getting that comparisonQuote:
Originally Posted by MentalParadox
We can only estimate the pace through the difference to the fastest Rally2 car.
In Monte Carlo 2022 The fastest Rally2 car was around 2 s/km slower than fastest Rally1 car.
In Monte Carlo 2021 Greensmith was often slower than the fastest Rally2 cars or just barely faster.
In Monte Carlo 2020 Lappi and Suninen were roughly 1 s/km faster than fastest Rally2 car.
Maybe we are wiser once we get some results from Sweden, which we can then compare with Arctic Rally Finland 2021.
Are you sure? Maybe it's in some other document than the sporting regulations?Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
EDIT: I also tried to look but couldn't find an update on the restrictor...very strange...
How Loeb and M-Sport answered every question... an emotional read:
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/loeb-...ion-over-them/
It sounds familiar to me, too. Was it in one of M. Matton's pronouncements in an interview that somehow didn't get past the discussion at the WRC Commission?Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
I remember also Latvala talking about the smaller restrictor during Rally Finland pre-rally radio special where people could send in their questions.
Sporting regs point to 2021 Appendix J, Art. 255A which remains unchanged since March 2021. If the restrictor had changed shouldn't there be a 2022 Appendix J, Art. 255A?Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
The only other notes are they are eligible for WRC Teams championship and they will be Priority 2 group.
Getting hold of one might be an obstacle.
What has any of this got to do with M-Sport Ford WRT ?
They are basically the only brand whose WRC2017 cars are out there, and could be still seen on the stages. Hyundais and Toyotas will likely go to museums and private collections, or taken apart for spares for the current cars where applicable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
2017 Fiesta's in private hands are nothing to do with M-Sport WRT.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Other than the fact the activity of selling and running customer cars (including the previous-gen WRC car) funds the WRC team, you're absolutely correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Somebody mentioned Bertelli returning and questioned if it was a Puma sale.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I mean the 2017 cars as of now, not in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by ouvreur
Great to have a customer for the new Puma confirmed now. Plus it's always good for fans to see another top level car in action. Bertelli's car liveries always look cool too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Welcome P-L Loubet ! :)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKvOhFDW...jpg&name=large
Safari and Acropolis
Serderidis’ liveryhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/FK11N1PX...g&name=900x900
M-SPORT post-Monte celebrations and de-brief:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/2vg...urce=copy-link
M.Wilson: "...and all done with a fraction of the budget of the other two teams."
2002 Ford racesuits with BP sponsorship (seemingly original.) https://www.motorsportauctions.com/c...WRC-Sparc.html
Oh no.. why some old man is taking some young talent's seat..
Wait. if one guy wants to drive, he buys/pays for the car and that's it.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/m-spo...er-rally1-car/
Actually there's a mistake in the article. Serderidis will drive the Puma Rally1 in Rallye de Hannut and Ardennes. It will be driven not with his own car, but with one from M-Sport themselves, as the one he bought isn't going to be ready yet.
Fun fact, there's an agreement with M-Sport that the car will always go back to M-Sport between events this year, and the car will be only serviced by people from M-Sport, also in the small events. So basically you can buy a Rally1-car but you can't put it in your own garage. :D
Who is the part deciding that fact in contract? Serderidis or MSport?Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
I´d say Serderidis can´t manage the car in his own garage anyway. ;)
They don't want any info about the car to leak to other WRC teams probably?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
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I was thinking about that as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by rage82
In addition, I can only image these cars are not that simple to service. In case of hybrid unit problems, Compact Dynamics only deals with the WRC teams, not directly to their customers?
Just speculation...
Maybe they buy the car and the service.
yeap.Quote:
Originally Posted by rage82
Latest M-Sport merchandise incl. banners, posters and stickers of the new PUMA...
https://www.dmb.uk.com/search/M-Spor...roducts/page/4
M-Sport anticipates more Rally1 privateers in WRC after first Puma sale...
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/m...-sale/8310098/
M-Sport need better drivers!
Loeb is just icing in the cake a few times a year, the rest of the year they need one more crew on level with Breen/Nagle.
Even if Sweden is special, the same will happen on all other rallies.
Greensmith/Andersson and Formaux/Coria are not good enough to fight for podiums. Ford need a 2nd driver on par with Breen!
Another problem is that this was meant to be one of Breens best events - considering his previous experience and speed here in the past.
We now either go into a run of events Breen hasn't done for a long time, or performed badly on last year (Croatia).
Hard to expect anything from Greensmith and Fourmaux, but I'm sure/ I hope both will show speed & grab a few good results at some point throughout the seaaon.
Msport chose the money from Greensmith and Fourmaux (plus Loubet), so we can't expect them to suddenly sign any of the better drivers out there (Paddon, Mikkelsen, Suninen, Meeke, Ostberg etc etc etc).
Lol, still talking about Paddon or Ostberg :D
Like they were event winners back then..
One poor rally mostly due to an unfortunate mistake by Breen and some car troubles.
Let''s see how it goes for a few months before writing them off. The other drivers mentioned are not guaranteed rally winners either.
Better drivers than Greensmith and Fourmaux though. But we know why Msport have gone for those two so it's a moot point
It's always a balancing act for a private team trying to stay financially-stable, but competitive, in WRC.
M-SPORT have gone for Breen as their 'best available driver' to pay for and only time will tell if he's the right choice. As well as finance, the other two bring some good potential.
I dont believe anyone could do a better job than Mr Wilson in keeping a non-factory team in WRC or know better who to choose for the best balance.
Moves this one over here
Who could come in and help them?Quote:
Originally Posted by COD
Car has potential on both surfaces, so they need new blood!
Andreas Mikkelsen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
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Tänak
Maybe, but its wery unusal to swap teams mid-season, M-sport need a driver asap.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Mikkelsen has in his contract with Skoda that he can jump ship if he got an offer from a WRC1 team.
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Would you guarantee rally wins by Mikkelsen if M-Sport signed him ?
No, thought not.
Easy better than todays lineup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
He is a proven winner, thats not anything you can say about those others, exept Loeb.
Who would you prefer? Meeke? Or another paydriver?
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