I was about to answer this post, when I noticed who was posting it. No need to do anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
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I was about to answer this post, when I noticed who was posting it. No need to do anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
they can run 2 cancelled stages at sunday, after PS? no??
Where are you from? 3rd world country like Greece?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Are you planning to keep Trump until next year?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor-y
If there's a wall built I know what side you will be on...Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
or more correctly back on.
I can't recall cancelled stages ever been run at later time. Are there any?Quote:
Originally Posted by KKS
That's the real question..all these geniuses cussing mexico --Mexican rally officials--who I understand hire in a bunch of Frenchies...but whatever they cook up---including the idiotic idea of a Plaza de Mexico Stupor Special--must be approved and blessed by FIA..Quote:
Originally Posted by Doon
The whole gawddam sport has been turned around in so many ways all for one thing: entertain the uninterested, un-engaged consumer.
So this is nothing unusual in that point of view..
A made for TV mentality. Could have done this with CGI... Because all that was important was the background of Plaza de Mexico...and the crowds..
WRC TV fawks with the speed of the cars, they could do this on site where the stages are and just generate a appropriate background--and sounds.
That's all that counts anymore.
I still don't get it, why they didn't just delay today's itinerary with an hour or two?!?!?!?!?!??!?!
Matt Jelonek*@MattJelonek
Eric Camilli's R5 Fiesta has slightly derailed off the Transporter and now stuck... #WRC #RallyMexico
Really feel for the local fans who have this one chance to see WRC cars in the flesh, have taken a day off work, gotten up early and trekked into the hills to watch a couple of passes of only 20 cars and are now only going to see half as much because of this farce.
We can be annoyed about not being able to follow the sport on timing screens and via radio, but those are the guys we should have the most empathy for IMO.
8 SSS' in a single rally also seems ridiculous.
this and the fact that organiseres are not able to bring back the cars in time makes N.O.T. ´s statement about 3rd world country a reality...sorry, but this is simply dump..Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
In this case, the last 3 stages must be delayed, and it's getting too late. Note, SS6 is "Street Stage" and 7 and 8 are SSSQuote:
Originally Posted by A FONDO
This is so stupid... really feel sorry for the guys already in the stages. Brutal.
Everyone but Ogier used the pods on SS1y as far as i can tell, Ogier turned them on after a while when he couldn't see a jump. WRC TV probably wanted them off but it was too dark.Quote:
Originally Posted by beta_racing
fock... i was looking forward to my lunch break to get some wrc action, and now this...
only topic now is people arguing if Ogier had his lights on or off! Not the most exciting rally so far
Exactly.
Crazyness...i think their could simply delay the start of stage of 2 hours....there are just 30 cars, and 5 hours between first and second loop of the stage
Red Bull Media House likes SSS...Quote:
Originally Posted by dodge33cymru
its the same, just without the 2 first stages, why the hell they didnt bring SS4 and SS5 to earlier time now? man i must go there myself
Great, they sacked two proper stages to save the three ridiculous SSS.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
So nothing new, it is like it was planned...Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Strange logistic concept, and a max unlucky rally organizer. Feel for them.
But the stewards solved the situation in a strange, and a not very flexible manner.
it should be jerk of the course there not clerk of the courseQuote:
Originally Posted by A FONDO
Updated startlist to TC3 - https://rally-base.com/2017/rally-gu...TimeTypeId=746
I´m VERY disappointed!!
I would blame the FIA and the promoter who approved this. It's normal that organisers try to dream big and new things to sell better the event. But FIA who must say "stop" it's to much or too risky. Branch of amateaurs.
Bunch of amateurs?Quote:
Originally Posted by amilk
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It better to have more time with that situation despite try run one or two stages with "rush time" for car preparing, it could be worse. So now this decision looks quite fineQuote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
....and people thought China would be a good idea! Rallying isn't a truly global sport and if long haul is needed then South Africa, Australia and NZ would all be preferable.
and perhaps Japan & CanadaQuote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
I shouldn't answer this, but for attacking Argentina, screw you.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
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Honestly, being a third world country or a long haul event has nothing to do with what's gone on here. It was just pure bad fortune. The FIA should learn not that long haul events to poorer countries than their own are a bad idea, but that holding a super special stage far from the rally center (I.e. the capital city).
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This has nothing to do with Mexico or any "third world country" as it is called here.
Putting the cars on a truck for 500km to do 3km of SSS, is just stupid. Stupid in every single way. What if a truck has a crash? SSS are ok for the big public when they are relatively close to rally HQ or the stages, although boring for the real fans. If you want to organise a stage in the capital city, then move the rally to an area close to the capital. Or stay away from it.
As usual these days, money is what it's all about... sport comes second...
"There is a real interest in going to a city like Mexico. There are 24 million people. We are really meeting potential customers that we do not touch in the Leon region. This is a request from the manufacturers to go to the public", confirms Matton.
There is Your solution mr. Matton:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
If the rally needs to be around the 2 big cities, well then.... How about bring back the marathon rallies, hmm?Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
Mr Matton, if you want potential customers, make the C3 competitive and get rid of Lefebvre.
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Sure, everyone in Mexico City would notice straight away.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve.mandzij
Make the crews drive those buzz-bombs from Leon to Mexico City and back. Overnight. Presto, classic rally!Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
It's about the money but also about the sport! Come on, do we want WRC and rally sport limited to Europe or do we believe that the series and the sport are fine enough to be developed in other parts of the globe?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
It’s not easy to make the sport popular in places were most of the people doesn’t have a clue of what’s rally. That’s the point of these SSS’s: make the rally visible to the general population (9M in Mexico City, 21M on MC Metropolitan area) that otherwise would have none or very little contact with the event.
Ok, apparently there were a lot of flaws on this first attempt, but if we want to see more fans and drivers involved in Mexico Rally or in any other distant country that receives WRC, we should be a bit more supportive and tolerant.
One final thought: ideally this kind of SSS should be run a couple of days prior to the event (at least before shakedown), without making part of the rally itinerary. That way the mess that we’re having today would be avoid. It was done like that a couple of years ago in Portugal Rally: the event was still run on the south but on the Sunday before the start a rally stage/show was run on the streets of the northern city of Porto. It was great and everybody enjoyed it.