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A.F.F.
1st December 2007, 11:05
Stage 9 is on. Latvala has definately using the moment even he is so far behind. Glad to see he has found a good rhythm. I wonder shall it end in a ditch??

Tom206wrc
1st December 2007, 11:06
They are both running with Fiat Abarth Grande Punto S2000




But Solowow is announced driving a Mitsubishi Lancer GrN on the BFGoodrich site :confused:

Wim_Impreza
1st December 2007, 11:06
Ice breaking news?

Just to say that he is again beaten by Merksteijn sr. and v/d Heuvel.

Josti
1st December 2007, 11:07
I guess Perez Companc ended up in a ditch.

Josti
1st December 2007, 11:09
Just to say that he is again beaten by Merksteijn sr. and v/d Heuvel.

Noticed that ;)

v/d Heuvel has been faster then both of them most of the times. Shame he also hit problems on stage 6.

Brother John
1st December 2007, 11:11
Where is Mikkelsen on SS9?

See him on split 2 now!

Allyc85
1st December 2007, 11:11
:( dunno if il be going to watch tommorow with the severe weather warnings. Just got to hope the forcasters live up to their reputation and get it wrong!

Josti
1st December 2007, 11:12
Where is Mikkelsen on SS9?

Underway? ;)

Jaanus
1st December 2007, 11:12
Mikkelsen rolled the car many times.

Josti
1st December 2007, 11:14
Mikkelsen rolled the car many times.

Third split I guess...

Brother John
1st December 2007, 11:14
Mikkelsen rolled the car many times.

Wait for split 3, split 2 is oke.....

Langdale Forest
1st December 2007, 11:15
Wilson faster than Atkinson

Brother John
1st December 2007, 11:16
Pons past Mikkelsen.

Josti
1st December 2007, 11:16
Quite suiting conditions for Wilson I guess.

jonkka
1st December 2007, 11:16
Mikkelsen rolled the car many times.

It's good to learn the basics early... rock and roll...

SubaruNorway
1st December 2007, 11:19
Starting to wonder if Wilson has just been tricking us the whole time

Buzz Lightyear
1st December 2007, 11:20
Wilson faster than Atkinson

mmm... aktinson has went very much off-the-boil since they annouce his contract for a two further years....

MikeD
1st December 2007, 11:21
What exiting news are they talking about regarding Stohl?

Brother John
1st December 2007, 11:22
If I hear Stohl on the radio I become tired......... :dozey: :laugh:

Buzz Lightyear
1st December 2007, 11:25
what IS wrong with subaru? rally after rally after rally.. handling problems. surely there are some clever people that can sort this out. is almost embarrasing watching.

bt52b
1st December 2007, 11:27
What about the Suzuki today?

Think I heard they had some problems again today. Matching the top PWRC's is hardly setting the world on fire :(

jonkka
1st December 2007, 11:27
Mikko is practicing the art of driving-to-splits :eek:

Corny
1st December 2007, 11:27
what IS wrong with subaru? rally after rally after rally.. handling problems. surely there are some clever people that can sort this out. is almost embarrasing watching.

The Japanese can't SEE the problem :)

bt52b
1st December 2007, 11:28
what IS wrong with subaru? rally after rally after rally.. handling problems. surely there are some clever people that can sort this out. is almost embarrasing watching.

They have a new evo' in Monte, S12C?

pantealex
1st December 2007, 11:28
But Solowow is announced driving a Mitsubishi Lancer GrN on the BFGoodrich site :confused:
Rallypictures shows, it´s Abarth S2000
link
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/image_browse.php?id=14505

jonkka
1st December 2007, 11:32
Rallypictures shows, it´s Abarth S2000

Link, pls

pino
1st December 2007, 11:32
Why we only get splits and results for the first 20 competitors ? I want to know how Bettega is doing :D

Langdale Forest
1st December 2007, 11:34
Latvala fastest on SS9.

Josti
1st December 2007, 11:35
Why we only get splits and results for the first 20 competitors ? I want to know how Bettega is doing :D

Amazingly well, he's in top 20 :up:

Latvala did a great last split so it seems.

pino
1st December 2007, 11:38
Amazingly well, he's in top 20 :up:



Amazing was his 9th fast time on 6th stage yesterday...on Group N :up:

Brother John
1st December 2007, 11:46
Lindholm on radio: brakes oke but now we have problems with handling of te car. :confused:

Mauri A
1st December 2007, 11:48
Amazing was his 9th fast time on 6th stage yesterday...on Group N :up:
Yes, but stage 6 was a bit different due to the circumstances.

pino
1st December 2007, 11:50
Yes, but stage 6 was a bit different due to the circumstances.

That's why was amazing :p :

Brother John
1st December 2007, 11:51
That's why was amazing :p :

He is like you Pino, AMAZING nice person. ;)

Finni
1st December 2007, 11:54
Hännine now outpacing all brittons in group N. If he continues like this he could possibly catch Wilks. But if there is very foggy and wet stages coming he will have again more difficult task.

Finni
1st December 2007, 11:57
I just noticed that in the last one Lindholm lost to some group N cars!
He is now saying that Suzuki is not going straight. Evidently it had to be race circumstance in order to notice that. All videos and incars have seemed just like that (oversteering like a little pig)

Mauri A
1st December 2007, 12:06
(oversteering like a little pig)
I have always thought that little pigs understeer!

N.O.T
1st December 2007, 12:07
Mr Lindholm should stick in his little local championship.....the big boys don't need sick dogs like him to play with serious toys.

pino
1st December 2007, 12:09
He is like you Pino, AMAZING nice person. ;)

Thanks but you really don't know me :p :

Josti
1st December 2007, 12:13
Mr Lindholm should stick in his little local championship.....the big boys don't need sick dogs like him to play with serious toys.

This hasn't been a trouble free rally for the SX4 WRC...

N.O.T
1st December 2007, 12:24
well...when the most major component is useless you cannot really hope for a good run

Finni
1st December 2007, 12:27
well...when the most major component is useless you cannot really hope for a good run

Well, after asphalt specialist Bernardi was complitely unable to do anything were you really expecting that the car is faster in more demanding conditions?

Wim_Impreza
1st December 2007, 12:36
Peter van Merksteijn (Ford Focus WRC) will be back tomorrow under SupeRally rules.

Magnus
1st December 2007, 12:44
I somehow find this rally a bit boring :(
It´s like the end of an era, with the next year not looking that initeresting at all. guess i will have to focus on pwrc...

Wim_Impreza
1st December 2007, 12:49
Common Magnus, the PWRC is so exciting. :)

Buzz Lightyear
1st December 2007, 13:38
well...when the most major component is useless you cannot really hope for a good run

do you mean the car or driver?

i think both.

Simmi
1st December 2007, 13:43
do you mean the car or driver?

i think both.

You can't have one without the other the driver needs a car.

If the car doesn't stop. If the car doesn't drive in a straight line.
What can he do? It's not Lindholm's fault.

Buzz Lightyear
1st December 2007, 13:44
They have a new evo' in Monte, S12C?

there is not much point homologating another bad car.

it cannot possible be all setup problem, there must be somehthing fundamentally wrong with the car.

they have tried markko martins input for rally gb, and that obviously didnt work. as for markko, no disrespect, i dont think its possible, after two years out of wrc, that he could be driving car to its maximum, and therfore giving meaningful feedback.

Buzz Lightyear
1st December 2007, 13:50
You can't have one without the other.


ok, if the car is not going in a straight line there is a problem, but picking a man of near 50 years of age, on a rally that he last done almost 10 years ago, is strange.

Almost as strange as asking someone to pay for a seat.

Tom206wrc
1st December 2007, 13:56
The MG S2000 is not doing a bad rally currently(some few decent times)...would look promising if it comes to IRC08 from the start of championship !! :)

Simmi
1st December 2007, 13:57
You are right it is strange Buzz. I suppose if it was Gardemeister or someone similar going that slowly then that would surely make the team look even worse. I'm just annoyed because I would love another good team in the WRC but the signs for next year dont look great do they.

Simmi
1st December 2007, 14:00
Ouch some spectacular pictures of the Mikkelsen roll on Getty:
http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?query=z.i.H4sIAAAAAAAEAO29B2AcSZYlJi9t ynt_SvVK1-B0oQiAYBMk2JBAEOzBiM3mkuwdaUcjKasqgcplVmVdZhZAzO2d vPfee--999577733ujudTif33_8_XGZkAWz2zkrayZ4hgKrIHz9-fB8_In7dfLn91etf49f4NX6PX_dskV3kvyb9mtD_f-2revpr_t_0_Bobn1_T_EzqqmpfZnW2aMxnvxb-v7vzY_Tj13v3-ro5fWfe-DX1b7TAgya_9oOdPe_3ewwhO9cWv8avqb_jlV87O5-aTuwf-P-vjZ873O-idW-6338dalzaL-xfeO_XpT_qhQUb_vnro_ku_vr1-POJhdH5m187D6HYPxnKjoVy3oHi_ubX6hCK_ZOh7FkodQeK-5sok5uXfk388WvrH0ymXfz2G5q2v7H5nGiSr8ynv2bw16-Vu66833-tvPE-tr__2s3Kvvlr4g-Dym9lX7ycuhfd779OVXucYv_irya5_xX-MmNitnm4s-P9vuv9zqz1a8-ulgbUr2n--HXw_2Y9cYMI_vq188xh6f9Bv6_8L-wfv24TQAv__LXfPXvu5sT747el___6xXJarmc5N8xqD1fvj2_4-X8AUfMBxQAEAAA..

Magnus
1st December 2007, 14:02
No pics

Simmi
1st December 2007, 14:05
No pics

Try the link again now it should work.

Mauri A
1st December 2007, 14:06
ok, if the car is not going in a straight line there is a problem, but picking a man of near 50 years of age.
But with a huge experience of testing. He wasn´t supposed to win this rally, not even to finish in top ten. I think he is good enough to write a long list of what should be done if Suzuki people really want to be competitive.

Tomi
1st December 2007, 14:10
But with a huge experience of testing. He wasn´t supposed to win this rally, not even to finish in top ten. I think he is good enough to write a long list of what should be done if Suzuki people really want to be competitive.

Exactly, i cant really understand how people can be so stupid that they dont understand why he is driving, and not some one with non or very limited test experience.

Tomi
1st December 2007, 14:15
if you remember Hyundai, nothing really happened there in development, before they did hire an experiensed testdriver, too late unfortunatly.

N.O.T
1st December 2007, 14:17
not even to finish in top ten.

What about managing to be faster than the group N cars ??

Maybe the first thing on his list is ...hire a rally driver to do the job and not a useless cusin of a hasbeen....

Mauri A
1st December 2007, 14:25
What about managing to be faster than the group N cars ??

Maybe the first thing on his list is ...hire a rally driver to do the job and not a useless cusin of a hasbeen....
I´m very curious about your bashing object next year.

Mirek
1st December 2007, 14:28
N.O.T... I'm sick of people like You who are only able of offending others.

dimviii
1st December 2007, 14:36
in how many hours starting 10 ss :rolleyes:

muscrae
1st December 2007, 14:37
in how many hours starting 10 ss :rolleyes:
just in 10 minutes now...

MikeD
1st December 2007, 14:45
]N.O.T... I'm sick of people like You who are only able of offending others.


Easy now Tiger. Most of it is said in a humourous way. Don't be so PC and don't take life so seroiously!

White Sauron
1st December 2007, 14:47
Somebody, please, at least one photo of russian Vertunov (#42)...

Simmi
1st December 2007, 14:49
Companc in stage now.

Langdale Forest
1st December 2007, 14:52
Will Latvala win this stage?

dimviii
1st December 2007, 14:55
thanks muscrae :wave:

Langdale Forest
1st December 2007, 14:57
Latvala is fast.

Brother John
1st December 2007, 14:59
in how many hours starting 10 ss :rolleyes:

Here they are at the moment!
http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/analyzer.php?rally=16&stage=10&results=1

A.F.F.
1st December 2007, 15:03
Oooh I'm going to laugh at NOT next year, even it's going to be bittersweet and behalf of a Finn driver.

But when NOT's alltime favourite Gardemeister try to struggle with that bomb, I'm curíous what he is going to bash then. The car or the driver.

I fortunately know exactly which one :)

jonas_mcrae
1st December 2007, 15:07
WOW mat wilson faster than sordo in first split! LOL
Hes not doing THAT bad here is he?

Simmi
1st December 2007, 15:10
WOW mat wilson faster than sordo in first split! LOL
Hes not doing THAT bad here is he?

I dont think he will be ahead at the end of the stage but Matt is doing much better lately. I really hope he's becoming more confident as he starts to notch up a few points.

SubaruNorway
1st December 2007, 15:12
WOW mat wilson faster than sordo in first split! LOL
Hes not doing THAT bad here is he?

ya i know, i've studied his inboards and they don't look bad actualy so im wondering if actualy has just been catious these past two years.

SubaruNorway
1st December 2007, 15:14
Sordo missing split!

just a glitch

CABAIO E'LONA
1st December 2007, 15:19
Sordo missing split!

just a glitch

another split mistake... Sordo end the stage...

Josti
1st December 2007, 15:20
ya i know, i've studied his inboards and they don't look bad actualy so im wondering if actualy has just been catious these past two years.

Yeah right...

Bare in mind that this is his home territory and the state of conditions the rally is in right now. Not saying that he doesn't do well of course.

Simmi
1st December 2007, 15:23
Another stage for Latvala. He is on fire today!

Langdale Forest
1st December 2007, 15:24
He will probably be winning rallys next year.

Josti
1st December 2007, 15:24
Shame he lost so much yesterday. He could have catched Loeb.

Wasted Talent
1st December 2007, 15:31
Yeah right...

Bare in mind that this is his home territory and the state of conditions the rally is in right now. Not saying that he doesn't do well of course.

I think Loeb, Gronholm and Hirvonen all have more knowledge of these stages than Matt......

WT

Langdale Forest
1st December 2007, 15:38
SS11 has started, Latvala fast again.

Josti
1st December 2007, 15:41
I think Loeb, Gronholm and Hirvonen all have more knowledge of these stages than Matt......

WT


That's why they're faster I guess...

Simmi
1st December 2007, 15:42
Petter said to have smoke coming from the front of the car at the end of the stage. Let's see if it affects him or if he even starts this stage.

Wasted Talent
1st December 2007, 15:58
That's why they're faster I guess...


...absolutely ! ;) ;) ;)

WT

dimviii
1st December 2007, 16:01
wilson faster than Loeb at stage :D

go Matt go!!!! :p

Mirek
1st December 2007, 16:02
You want to say that on stages that none of them knows Matt will be on Gronholm's pace? Realy funny... look at Norway or Portugal ;)

The fact is that Matt is fast only in GB, last year too, I think.

Langdale Forest
1st December 2007, 16:04
Latvala fastest again!!!!!!!!!

Wim_Impreza
1st December 2007, 16:05
]You want to say that on stages that none of them knows Matt will be on Gronholm's pace? Realy funny... look at Norway or Portugal ;)

The fact is that Matt is fast only in GB, last year too, I think.

He was not that fast last year in GB (only a 12th place), he had more speed in Mexico 2006 until he crashed.

Buzz Lightyear
1st December 2007, 16:13
]
The fact is that Matt is fast only in GB, last year too, I think.

please use FAST sparingly... Latvala is FAST.

Mirek
1st December 2007, 16:17
Buzz Lightyear: Oh man... read it again and You'll find what I tried to say.

ZequeArgentina
1st December 2007, 16:20
G. Evans and D Higgins seems to be out.....

EDIT; D. Higgins is there, just no splits, and late timming.

Mirek
1st December 2007, 16:22
Gwyndaf Evans is realy out :(

Tom206wrc
1st December 2007, 16:29
Why has Lindholm retired in superrally this time again??? :confused:

Buzz Lightyear
1st December 2007, 16:32
]Buzz Lightyear: Oh man... read it again and You'll find what I tried to say.

sorry.. I must have took "The fact is that Matt is fast only in GB" up the wrong way.

Brother John
1st December 2007, 16:34
]Gwyndaf Evans is realy out :(

I´m going out to this evening. :s mokin: :laugh: ;)

Brother John
1st December 2007, 16:36
Why has Lindholm retired in superrally this time again??? :confused:

I think the problem = Suzuki. :rotflmao:

Mirek
1st December 2007, 16:40
Seems like Sola is out again after very good times before.

Langdale Forest
1st December 2007, 16:41
Latvala fast yet agin.

Simmi
1st December 2007, 16:50
Not sure if he'll be able to win this stage too it looks like a slightly weak first split from JML. Matty Wilson having a nice fight with Atko. Hopefully he wont do anything silly and will take the points.

Allyc85
1st December 2007, 16:51
but that would be boring ;)

T60
1st December 2007, 16:56
got to say, Matty has done himself proud already on this rally. Atkinson complementing his times and admitting he is having to take some risks to keep the gap.

Langdale Forest
1st December 2007, 17:06
Latvala Wins Stage Again!

Langdale Forest
1st December 2007, 17:08
Latvala would have been 3rd now if he had not had problems on the last stage yeasterday.

bf1_IRL
1st December 2007, 17:10
Floodin gone off too?

After SS11 BRC Standings from: http://rallybrc.co.uk/news-details-page.asp?NewsID=166
Mark Higgins has retaken the lead from Wilks but the gap is just 2.8 seconds

V.Gatev
1st December 2007, 17:13
Hi, guys. Do you know, can we watch anywhere live Super Special Stage in Cardif? Do you know some link? Thank you in advance.

Tom206wrc
1st December 2007, 17:18
Why has Lindholm retired in superrally this time again??? :confused:



My mistake he didn't retire in fact :mark:

Mirek
1st December 2007, 17:33
Stuart Jones with MG is out probably :(

HaCo
1st December 2007, 17:34
]Stuart Jones with MG is out probably :(
Woops, how come?

bf1_IRL
1st December 2007, 17:36
:?: ..no splits for this stage thus far (for the MG)

Mirek
1st December 2007, 17:48
Rautenbach, Pons and Mikkelsen crashes...
http://nakkitartsani.1g.fi/wrc/crashes.avi

bf1_IRL
1st December 2007, 17:59
Ouch..

Tomi
1st December 2007, 18:09
I think this rally has showed that things does not look bad for Fords chances to win the manu. title next year again, but it would be good if Stobart would sign someone who can drive a rallycar on gravel, it would make it easier for Ford.

jonas_mcrae
1st December 2007, 18:37
]Rautenbach, Pons and Mikkelsen crashes...
http://nakkitartsani.1g.fi/wrc/crashes.avi

Im only getting audio... :(

Mirek
1st December 2007, 18:50
Here the superspecial should be:
http://mfile.akamai.com/20546/live/reflector:56197.asx?bkup=57047

jonas_mcrae: Probably some codec. I haven't updated them for a long time and it works to me...

efe-e
1st December 2007, 18:53
when will the SSS start?

SubaruNorway
1st December 2007, 19:01
when will the SSS start?

Right now

jonas_mcrae
1st December 2007, 19:03
]Here the superspecial should be:
http://mfile.akamai.com/20546/live/reflector:56197.asx?bkup=57047

jonas_mcrae: Probably some codec. I haven't updated them for a long time and it works to me...

Thanks I solved the problem, yes it was a codec
and many thanks for the sss coverage, it kicks as5! LOL

Mirek
1st December 2007, 19:15
So, Stuart Jones crashed and Gwyndaf Evans had a gearbox failure.

dimviii
1st December 2007, 20:42
thanks for the link Mirek Fric!!

Mirek
1st December 2007, 20:46
I was told that Jones had a terrible crash and that co-driver Bull was taken to a hospital with broken collar bone. Does anyone know more?

efe-e
1st December 2007, 20:47
Right now
Thank you very much mate. ;)
It's very imppressive stage. Too many spectaculer turns , spectators.
Thanks and Congratulations to Cardiff

SubaruNorway
1st December 2007, 20:56
Thank you very much mate. ;)
It's very imppressive stage. Too many spectaculer turns , spectators.
Thanks and Congratulations to Cardiff

Could have been better if Gigi was there, Petter coulden't even do a proper donut

c4
1st December 2007, 20:57
]I was told that Jones had a terrible crash and that co-driver Bull was taken to a hospital with broken collar bone. Does anyone know more?

Check www.walesrallygb.com (http://www.walesrallygb.com) SS12 incident. Heard Mike Broad say Andy Bull injury not serious.

White Sauron
1st December 2007, 21:12
Thank you very much mate. ;)
It's very imppressive stage. Too many spectaculer turns , spectators.
Thanks and Congratulations to Cardiff

Yap, very picteresque winter-chrystmas style decorations!!! The best superspecial of the year! If all of them were like this, I'd have nothing against them.

jparker
1st December 2007, 21:35
......All videos and incars have seemed just like that (oversteering like a little pig)


I have always thought that little pigs understeer!

I think they do both, depends how slippery conditions are.

Simmi
1st December 2007, 22:21
Could they not be arsed turning the floodlights on in the stadium this year? Did anyone think it was a bit dark? Why should the cars have to have their lights on when they are in a stadium!

Roy
1st December 2007, 22:24
Could they not be arsed turning the floodlights on in the stadium this year? Did anyone think it was a bit dark? Why should the cars have to have their lights on when they are in a stadium!

That is the charm of rally. Driving in dark, even it is a SSS.

Drewski
1st December 2007, 22:42
It all adds to the effect for the spectators :-)

efe-e
1st December 2007, 22:46
I think that that's for scenery. Cold, icy, covered with snow decor. It must be lil' bit darky i think.

Josti
1st December 2007, 23:44
It's always nice to see it happening live, but this stage didn't look exciting at all. Looked more like a circus to me, with the "Christmas" decor, the fire bursting and the way the cars entered.

Cardiff used to have an outside "proper" SSS till some years ago if I remember correctly. I don't like these stadium stages. Ah well...I'd rather have a real stage anyway.

noel157
2nd December 2007, 01:06
It's always nice to see it happening live, but this stage didn't look exciting at all. Looked more like a circus to me, with the "Christmas" decor, the fire bursting and the way the cars entered.

Cardiff used to have an outside "proper" SSS till some years ago if I remember correctly. I don't like these stadium stages. Ah well...I'd rather have a real stage anyway.

Josti, you speak the truth. Thought it was poor, at least from the comfort of my armchair in front of the fire.

Mirek
2nd December 2007, 01:15
For me the Christmas "atmosphere" was just a chocolate box...

Helstar
2nd December 2007, 07:44
Helloooooooooo.... I'm Lindsay Lohannnnnn xD (nobody will understood the joke :p !)

Anybody over there ? Another year of WRC is going to finish with Loeb Champion ... New Guy (lol another joke from Achmed eheh).

Helstar
2nd December 2007, 07:49
Ok ok I'm alone. Jones on stage... meanwhile I'm seeing for 395849th time the Achmed sketch... it's simply wonderful. I can't stop laughing ! ^_^

Helstar
2nd December 2007, 07:53
H.Solberg and Latvala on stage too...

SILENCE ! I KILL YOU ! xD (yes again from Achmed :p go see it ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-M2N9lbme4 italian subbed too)

Helstar
2nd December 2007, 07:57
Latvala already the faster... I wonder if there is the Rally Radio but I'm too lazy to find out :p and anyway I'm still busy listening to Achmed (spammmmm) =D

edit: oh well there is, already airing.

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2007, 07:59
Any news about weather conditions at the moment above today's stages ??? :confused:

bt52b
2nd December 2007, 07:59
JML flying.

Don't forget RallyFM/0157 (http://www.0157.org) live stream (http://globecast.workscast.com/) too

bt52b
2nd December 2007, 08:06
Any news about weather conditions at the moment above today's stages ??? :confused:

Its raining heavily. RallyFM live at end of first stage now.

24hr forecast
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/24hr.shtml?id=3311

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2007, 08:07
Thanks bt52b ;)

Helstar
2nd December 2007, 08:07
Impressive Latvala again ! 45 sec to H.Solberg with same car and the stage is not over yet...

bt52b
2nd December 2007, 08:10
JML 54 secs quicker than Henning

Roy
2nd December 2007, 08:11
Wilson is close by Latvala

jonkka
2nd December 2007, 08:11
Why is P-C after JML on the road?

Helstar
2nd December 2007, 08:11
And The Child is flying at his home event..... seems he knows the roads very well I guess :p

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2007, 08:13
Impressive first two splits for Matt Wilson :eek:

bt52b
2nd December 2007, 08:13
COMPANC damaged car at flying finish. Left side and back end whacked.

Langdale Forest
2nd December 2007, 08:14
Sordo faster than Latvala on split 1.

bt52b
2nd December 2007, 08:15
KOPECKÝ lost 30s at start

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2007, 08:15
It looks like Wilson Jr will pass Atko for the 6th position after this stage :confused:

Roy
2nd December 2007, 08:16
Wilson gets Atkinson overall. Don't give up that young boy!

Helstar
2nd December 2007, 08:16
Loeb on road. GL ! http://www.cazzariland.com/archivioimmagini/albums/userpics/10001/gufacc_rete.jpg

Langdale Forest
2nd December 2007, 08:20
Hirvonen is fast.

Helstar
2nd December 2007, 08:24
Whoa 22.8 sec gain by Wilson to Atkinson. The Child can actually drive O_o

bt52b
2nd December 2007, 08:25
Wilson dropped 22s to JML, but Atko is 24s slower, screen fogged up + wiper problems

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2007, 08:25
Bosse and Hirvo are pushing even harder than Latvala now :mark:

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2007, 08:27
Latvala will eat Kopecky after next stage, no doubt about that ;)

bt52b
2nd December 2007, 08:29
Still a bit of fog on the stage

Mauri A
2nd December 2007, 08:32
Latvala will eat Kopecky after next stage, no doubt about that ;)
He made it already, Ostberg will be next.

N.O.T
2nd December 2007, 08:33
3 stages to go.....

bt52b
2nd December 2007, 08:33
Loeb said not that slippery now, some grip now. Taking it easy, no late braking.

Bosse is realtively happy.

Mikko joint fastest with JML.

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2007, 08:34
Hirvo and Latvala equal finish time :eek:

Helstar
2nd December 2007, 08:34
3 stages to go.....
Yea, until the sure win http://www.cazzariland.com/immagini/gufacc.jpg

Roy
2nd December 2007, 08:34
He made it already, Ostberg will be next.

Not yet, 26 sec. between latvala and kopeckey

Mauri A
2nd December 2007, 08:37
Not yet, 26 sec. between latvala and kopeckey
How come, after SS13 the difference was 40 secs and on SS14 J-M was over a minute faster?

Roy
2nd December 2007, 08:39
penalty.

http://www.wrc.com/page/Penalties/0,,10111~200708,00.html

Mauri A
2nd December 2007, 08:40
penalty.

http://www.wrc.com/page/Penalties/0,,10111~200708,00.html
O.K., thanks.

jonkka
2nd December 2007, 08:44
penalty.

Grrr....

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2007, 08:47
Problem for Gareth Jones in SS15 or only split problem ?? :confused:

A.F.F.
2nd December 2007, 08:50
Wilson has indeed been from different planet than usually. Looks like I'm going to owe 1000 000€ to BJ :s Damn.

Magnus
2nd December 2007, 08:52
Wilson has indeed been from different planet than usually. Looks like I'm going to owe 1000 000€ to BJ :s Damn.

Wilson should help you; he´s the one who is out of character...

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2007, 08:56
By the way, where's Perez-Companc on SS15?? :confused:

A.F.F.
2nd December 2007, 08:57
Wilson should help you; he´s the one who is out of character...

You're absolutely right Magnus. And if not him, maybe his dad....

BJ, you don't mind if there's Abu Dhabi written on the bills do you ?

Helstar
2nd December 2007, 09:00
I feel something happens in this stage :p

pino
2nd December 2007, 09:03
Hello everyone :wave:

Mauri A
2nd December 2007, 09:03
I feel something happens in this stage :p
Looks like it, or is it only GPS problems.

Helstar
2nd December 2007, 09:04
Hey Pinooo ... OT (as usual xD) did you look at Achmed on youtube :D ?

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2007, 09:05
Atkinson ??? :confused:

pino
2nd December 2007, 09:06
Hey Pinooo ... OT (as usual xD) did you look at Achmed on youtube :D ?

NO, who's Achmed anyway ? please PM me about it ;)

Helstar
2nd December 2007, 09:09
Atkinson ??? :confused:
I told you that something would have happened =D damn the Owl missed the target though LOL (it's the GPS only anyway ;p !)

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2007, 09:11
Petter is losing a lot on Dani :mark:

Ifeel there will be about 20s or less between Solberg P and Sordo after this SS15 :rolleyes:

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2007, 09:12
Atko arrived ;)

But quite slow :mark:

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2007, 09:15
It looks like Gareth Jones went off in split 2 losing more than 10 minutes... :s

N.O.T
2nd December 2007, 09:18
2 stages to go.....

Maui J.
2nd December 2007, 09:18
OK, I haven't really been following the rally so far, but just checked the results.

All I can say is, I hope for a small mistake from Seb to drop him 3 or 4 spots. Nothing too serious, maybe just a puncture. Mikko to take victory, and Marcus to win the championship.
Is that too much to ask for?!

Oh yeah, and for the SX4 to get much much faster!!!

Anyway, it's Sunday night here. I'm off to bed. Goodnight Rally Forumers, and roll on Monte 2008.

Helstar
2nd December 2007, 09:18
Loeb is cruising but the Owl is flying over him (maybe =D !)

Mauri A
2nd December 2007, 09:21
BTW, Hänninen has passed Higgins, and where is Wilks?

Tomi
2nd December 2007, 09:26
BTW, Hänninen has passed Higgins.

Thats good news, hopefully he gets next year a few rallies with a Focus.

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2007, 09:32
Problem for Andreas Aigner too :s

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2007, 09:34
BTW, Hänninen has passed Higgins, and where is Wilks?



No problem for Wilks, just GPS ;)

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2007, 09:38
Problem for Armindo Araujo ??? :(

Langdale Forest
2nd December 2007, 09:39
lLuis Perez Companc retires.

Mauri A
2nd December 2007, 09:40
Problem for Armindo Araujo ??? :(
Yes.

N.O.T
2nd December 2007, 09:41
Hanninen would be an ideal replacement for Latvala if he moves to the official team....

Tomi
2nd December 2007, 09:48
Hanninen would be an ideal replacement for Latvala if he moves to the official team....

If i would be Wilson i would put Wilks and Hänninen to drive for Stobart and move Henning out to drive with Villagra & co.

Helstar
2nd December 2007, 10:10
Bettega is doing a good rally with the Mitsu N4 it seems... maybe he is better on gravel than on tarmac (I admit I was a little bit disappointed from his Corsica experience with the Focus 06).

SubaruNorway
2nd December 2007, 10:22
Bettega is doing a good rally with the Mitsu N4 it seems... maybe he is better on gravel than on tarmac (I admit I was a little bit disappointed from his Corsica experience with the Focus 06).

Got a 11th in his first rally in a wrc car wasen't very disapointing realy.

1LM1
2nd December 2007, 10:24
So 18 seconds between Petter and Dani and two long stages to go.

Can Dani do it?! Hard to do. Will he even try?

Helstar
2nd December 2007, 10:32
Got a 11th in his first rally in a wrc car wasen't very disapointing realy.
Ok but two huge errors and many high times, not so good either :p

But yes it wasn't a disaster anyway :)

Mirek
2nd December 2007, 10:57
Araujo double puncture, left front and right rear tyre.
Aigner puncture. Both changed tyres on stage.
Kopecky had stopped engine on start than he was without ALS and without power steering in left hand corners + some brake problems. Although I'm not happy with his performance last stage times were not driver's problems.

1LM1
2nd December 2007, 11:00
Ok two stages to go! Hope God doesn't hold for us a Sainz/Toyota 98 scenario...

Wim_Impreza
2nd December 2007, 11:07
]Araujo double puncture, left front and right rear tyre.
Aigner puncture. Both changed tyres on stage.
Kopecky had stopped engine on start than he was without ALS and without power steering in left hand corners + some brake problems. Although I'm not happy with his performance last stage times were not driver's problems.

I'm also disappointed about his performance. Last year he was 10th overall.

Brother John
2nd December 2007, 11:17
You're absolutely right Magnus. And if not him, maybe his dad....

BJ, you don't mind if there's Abu Dhabi written on the bills do you ?

You give me a JACK in that fine restaurant and it is oke. ;)
I always say, you don't need money to be rich!
Let me just open my big mouth sometimes here on the forum....and have my kind off fun. :s mokin:

TMorel
2nd December 2007, 11:17
Helstar
Can you please shut up about Achmed. Every time you mention him I have to go back and watch that sketch again - it's just too damn funny, but it means I'm not getting any housework done :(

dimviii
2nd December 2007, 11:25
did Novikov retired? :rolleyes:

Wim_Impreza
2nd December 2007, 11:34
did Novikov retired? :rolleyes:

Yes, he did.

muscrae
2nd December 2007, 11:37
marcus out?
????

White Sauron
2nd December 2007, 11:40
did Novikov retired? :rolleyes:

Novikov rolled his car 1.7 kms after the start line of SS14. Vertunov also retired on the same stage - went off the road and a deep ditch prevented him from returning on the road even though the car was able to continue.

muscrae
2nd December 2007, 11:44
marcus out?
????

????????????

SubaruNorway
2nd December 2007, 11:45
????????????

What are you on about

J4MIE
2nd December 2007, 11:47
Hi Guys, I have just arrived home after getting recovered all the way from Cardiff after part of the suspension on the car broke as we were leaving Cardiff last night.

To say I am gutted just isn't enough........

:bigcry:

muscrae
2nd December 2007, 11:47
What are you on about
wrr said sth like that??

Magnus
2nd December 2007, 11:50
Hi Guys, I have just arrived home after getting recovered all the way from Cardiff after part of the suspension on the car broke as we were leaving Cardiff last night.

To say I am gutted just isn't enough........

:bigcry:

Doesn´t sound nice J4MIE! can imagine...
And Bosse is loosing out on his third title within the next two stages...
Well well, there will be better days I hope!

SubaruNorway
2nd December 2007, 11:50
Hi Guys, I have just arrived home after getting recovered all the way from Cardiff after part of the suspension on the car broke as we were leaving Cardiff last night.

To say I am gutted just isn't enough........

:bigcry:

You don't drive a VAG do you?

SubaruNorway
2nd December 2007, 11:51
wrr said sth like that??

From WRC yes, but he is still in the rally?

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2007, 11:55
:confused:

J4MIE
2nd December 2007, 11:55
No it's a Laguna. "Breakdown assistance" doesn't want anything to do with suspension/safety parts so just take you home :angryfire

Helstar
2nd December 2007, 11:58
Helstar
Can you please shut up about Achmed. Every time you mention him I have to go back and watch that sketch again - it's just too damn funny, but it means I'm not getting any housework done :(
LOOOOOOOOL I'm addicted too, I can't avoid to see it multiple times a day, HELP xD

]Araujo double puncture, left front and right rear tyre.
Aigner puncture. Both changed tyres on stage.
Kopecky had stopped engine on start than he was without ALS and without power steering in left hand corners + some brake problems. Although I'm not happy with his performance last stage times were not driver's problems.
Hey but the mousse ?! Whoa next year we are screwed .... ehm, no the drivers I mean :>

Ok two stages to go! Hope God doesn't hold for us a Sainz/Toyota 98 scenario...
Oh no it will never happen ! http://www.cazzariland.com/archivioimmagini/albums/userpics/10001/gufacc_rete.jpg http://www.cazzariland.com/immagini/gufacc.jpg

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2007, 11:58
What's the story about Bosse being out ?? What would have happened ??? :mark:

SubaruNorway
2nd December 2007, 11:59
Helstar
Can you please shut up about Achmed. Every time you mention him I have to go back and watch that sketch again - it's just too damn funny, but it means I'm not getting any housework done :(

Valter is much better :D

Mirek
2nd December 2007, 12:02
Helstar: PWRC drivers don't use Mousse.

Mauri A
2nd December 2007, 12:06
What's the story about Bosse being out ?? What would have happened ??? :mark:
I think it is strange misunderstandig of Silly Jumper.

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2007, 12:09
By the way where's Dani Sola in SS15 ??? :confused:

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2007, 12:11
SS16 is running, we will see if Bosse is here or not ;)

Mirek
2nd December 2007, 12:16
Tom: Sola was 37th +3:19. Far fastest FWD time again.

Helstar
2nd December 2007, 12:18
]Helstar: PWRC drivers don't use Mousse.
Ouch poor guys.... also next year the luckiest WRC one will win :p (starts with L and finish in B ... guess who ?)

bt52b
2nd December 2007, 12:22
SS16 is running, we will see if Bosse is here or not ;)

Just heard him on RallyFM, their live at the end of SS16

White Sauron
2nd December 2007, 12:22
Ouch poor guys.... also next year the luckiest WRC one will win :p (starts with L and finish in B ... guess who ?)

Latvalb?

bt52b
2nd December 2007, 12:31
JML three secs quicker than this morning, fastest so far

Helstar
2nd December 2007, 12:31
Latvalb?
No, Lindsay Lohanb ! (helloooooooooooo) xD

SubaruNorway
2nd December 2007, 12:32
Who's on the stage in the british radio

bt52b
2nd December 2007, 12:34
Who's on the stage in the british radio

Nicola Parker I think

N.O.T
2nd December 2007, 12:34
Gronholm still in the rally.....

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2007, 12:36
Grön is at the start of SS16 :p :

GPS problem for Sordo on split 2 ?? :confused:

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2007, 12:38
GPS problem for Wilson Jr too :confused:

N.O.T
2nd December 2007, 12:39
I would like to see Marcus winning the last 2 stages.... :) :) it will be a nice way to go.....

Mauri A
2nd December 2007, 12:39
Looks like J-M doesn´t want to pass Ostberg.

Brother John
2nd December 2007, 12:42
Looks like J-M doesn´t want to pass Ostberg.

Doesn´want???? He is 0:17.8 faster!!!!!!! :eek:

Finni
2nd December 2007, 12:43
Hanninen would be an ideal replacement for Latvala if he moves to the official team....

This is great credit to Juho from the guy, let's say, who is not giving any undeserved hype to finnish drivers. :)

Timo Jouhki said that there is three supertalented young driver in Finland at the moment. Latvala was of course mentioned then Hänninen and young Alen.

SubaruNorway
2nd December 2007, 12:44
Doesn´want???? He is 0:17.8 faster!!!!!!! :eek:

only 18 betwene them now and the next stage is almost the same lenght

N.O.T
2nd December 2007, 12:44
This is great credit to Juho from the guy, let's say, who is not giving any undeserved hype to finnish drivers. :)

Timo Jouhki said that there is three supertalented young driver in Finland at the moment. Latvala was of course mentioned then Hänninen and young Alen.

Joukhi is right about the 2...the son of the Neverbeen doesn't impress by winning in second class championships.

SubaruNorway
2nd December 2007, 12:45
Split missing for Loeb!

Ah crap just a glitch

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2007, 12:45
Only GPS problem for Loeb I hope !! :confused:

Magnus
2nd December 2007, 12:46
I hate it when the splits for loeb are late. it´s to much... :s

Finni
2nd December 2007, 12:47
Östberg is kicking asses of official Subaru drivers (Pins and Atko). I think that Östberg's old Subaru (isn't it 2004 or 2005?) is better than current one.

MikeD
2nd December 2007, 12:47
Peuhh Loeb back in the splits. Soon time to celebrate the 4th championship in a row!

Helstar
2nd December 2007, 12:48
It's the spirit of the Owl flying over the C4 :p blocking GPS only, for the moment xD

Tomi
2nd December 2007, 12:49
Timo Jouhki said that there is three supertalented young driver in Finland at the moment. Latvala was of course mentioned then Hänninen and young Alen.

And a few more to come.

N.O.T
2nd December 2007, 12:50
Isn't it a bit unfair to wish bad luck for the best driver of the season ??? I mean i don't think there is anybody to believe that he doesn't deserve it.....

Tom206wrc
2nd December 2007, 12:50
New retirement for Stewart Jones in the MG S2000 :(