Official Rally New Zealand Thread

[A.F.F.]

He started and he is the BEST again!!!!!

Yes, I just spotted it myself :up: Yes, yes YES :D

EDIT: +10 seconds timepenalty :s

[noel157]

According to chopper pictures Aava has stopped..............

[jonkka]

According to chopper pictures Aava has stopped..............

According to chopper feed everyone stops every ten seconds... :eek:

[Josti]

Grönholm on pace again!

[N.O.T]

Atko is pushing Latvala....

[noel157]

According to chopper feed everyone stops every ten seconds... :eek:


I still have Aava frozen on my screen. Just me?

[mdesign]

loeb on the lead "for the moment"

[kleisj]

Seb ahead in the first split for .6

[N.O.T]

Loeb 0.6 faster on split 1.....this is a classic !!!!!!

[A.F.F.]

And Loeb pushing Marcus.

[Koz]

A corner just before the finish almost caught Atkinson and Latvala out!

[cut the b.s.]

I still have Aava frozen on my screen. Just me?


I have the lovely NZ landscape on mine!!

[jonkka]

And splits stopped... Grr...

[N.O.T]

ss14 started...that mean no splits for ss13 ????? damn hope not.....

[jonkka]

I saw Stohl waiting on startline and anticipated this but still makes me ... angry ... now just wait... and wait...

[mdesign]

with some luck the radio tells us the splits

[A.F.F.]

Yep, no more splits from ss 13.

[Josti]

Well, Loeb slower again.

[A.F.F.]

Loeb slower by 0.1 seconds on split 2

[N.O.T]

aniel Sordo
Citroen "The conditions on the road is very slippery, so we see now on the long stage. Today the car is good when the road is mud."

Mikko Hirvonen
Ford "There was some heavy heavy rain at the start of the stage."


Chris Atkinson
Subaru "We're fighting. The cars working well in the slow again."


Jari-Matti Latvala
Ford "At the start of the stage I was a little bit too cautious and made a little bit of a mistake, I went a bit too wide."

[A.F.F.]

"It's about driving fast" :D

[jonkka]

aniel Sordo

If Sordo had a dog, it would be spaniel?

[N.O.T]

Gronholm finished 3.8 secs ahead of Hirvonen

[N.O.T]

Marcus Gronholm
Ford "I made a small mistake in the beginning. Its all about driving fast"

[Koz]

Loeb in the lead

[mdesign]

half a second... cool

[A.F.F.]

Sebastien crushed Marcus :eek:

[Josti]

Loeb on the lead, SS14 will be interesting, considering it´s pretty long.

[jonkka]

Back and forth... how many more times today...

[N.O.T]

Loeb fastest !!!! 0.6 seconds fastest... 1st place is changing stage after stage......

[A.F.F.]

McShea's accent is excellent :up:

[jonkka]

McShea's accent is excellent :up:

He's driving a Hyundai Accent? :eek:

[Josti]

Yes, he does an Irish accent pretty good :p :

[noel157]

McShea's accent is excellent :up:

Thanks AFF.)
McShea has Toshi on his tail, fingers crossed for him.

[A.F.F.]

Thanks AFF.)
McShea has Toshi on his tail, fingers crossed for him.

No problem mate, I have a drop of Irish blood meself :)

[A.F.F.]

Where are PWRC stage results :mad:

[jonkka]

No problem mate, I have a drop of Irish blood meself :)

Can one get irish blood by drinking enough Guinness? :eek:

[noel157]

Has anybody got moving pictures? I've still got Aava for 10mins now. Grrrr.

[A.F.F.]

Can one get irish blood by drinking enough Guinness? :eek:

I'm not sure about that but if your great grandma gets involved with an Irish sailor, then you can ;)

[Daniel]

Where are PWRC stage results :mad:
Dunno Tom :D

[A.F.F.]

Has anybody got moving pictures? I've still got Aava for 10mins now. Grrrr.

How about refresh for a change ?

[jonkka]

I'm not sure about that but if your great grandma gets involved with an Irish sailor, then you can ;)

How do I arrange that? Does it have to be a sailor?

[dimviii]

Arai is 48 secs from McShea 12 secs faster at last stage :eek:

[kleisj]

Long stage this one and too many things at stake! Hehehe noone can afford to go less than 100% flat , and noone can afford to make a mistake!
Fantastic battle!

[noel157]

How about refresh for a change ?

Strangely enough AFF and don't be cheeky :) that worked on the 7th refresh attempt.....

[A.F.F.]

How do I arrange that? Does it have to be a sailor?

Sailor, tailor, Dubliner, northsider...

[jonkka]

Some low clouds...

[dimviii]

Hanninen again faster :eek:


ps with all the wheels :D

[noel157]

Some low clouds...

Or high chopper: Sorry I'm getting caught up in the chit-chat.

[jonkka]

Is Petter trying to get Sordo?

[A.F.F.]

Petter really on a charge :eek:

Latvala duelling Atkinson like Big Boys.

[N.O.T]

Loeb Slower by 0.4.....on the 1st split

[jonkka]

Hopefully that's indicative for whole stage...

[jonkka]

Wilson loses a place

[A.F.F.]

This not good to fingernails....

[Rally Hokkaido]

Nice close up shots of Marcus from the 'Eye'.
Focus was sliding a lot - must be verrry slippy!

[mdesign]

we have a tie for the lead at split 2 lol

[N.O.T]

0.5 on the second......this is crazy....

[jonkka]

This is how it should be all the time. When was the last time there was an interesting Leg 3?

[A.F.F.]

Marcus extends lead by point 1 seconds..

[Daniel]

Not good on the fingernails for sure!

[N.O.T]

1.8 on the 3rd....marcus is starting to slightly pull away

[Luckin]

P.Solberg, Atkinson and Latvala speeding through the stage, but what is it compared to Marcus and Loeb.

I just love those long stages with lot of splits :D

[Josti]

Loeb, almost 2 sec behind...

[kleisj]

They are going by holding hands!!!

[Luckin]

Not exactly good last split from Marcus compared to the others...

[Addicted]

Is Loeb giving up already?

[jonkka]

Petter slashes difference to Sordo to half and Latvala loses to Atkinson... :eek:

[Fang]

Estonian splits down

Whaanga coast 14 & 17 will decide 1v2, 4v5, 6v7 and maybe the 2007 drivers crown.

Awesome stuff!!

[N.O.T]

WOW Loeb takes some time back at 4th !!!!

[Fang]

Hirvonen must feel so left out!

[jonkka]

WOW Loeb takes some time back at 4th !!!!

I'd rather say that Marcus loses some of his lead, his advantage to others did not increase.

[N.O.T]

this is a relatively slow stage.....around 85km/hr the average speed

[Luckin]

What a stage by Atkinson and Latvala! Atko slower by 2.1s at 1st split but he completely turned it other way round in the end!

And Loeb fights back...

[jonkka]

Marcus is losing it!

[N.O.T]

hmmmm whats wrong with markus ??? he lost 2 secs to hirvonen on the next one......

[jonkka]

Is that Raglan remote service on Eye now?

[Luckin]

Oops, Marcus loses some time... This is not looking good

[Erki]

I'd rather say that Marcus loses some of his lead, his advantage to others did not increase.

Especially Atko was alot faster than him.

[N.O.T]

maybe tyres are over for him.....Loeb now 1.9 seconds ahead.......

[Josti]

Maybe a little mistake from Marcus.

[Koz]

Loeb quicker than Marcus now..

[jonkka]

Helo went to check into Time Control :eek:

[N.O.T]

Marcus finished......his last split was improved a bit....

[Rally Hokkaido]

Is that Raglan remote service on Eye now?

Yes, loks lilke it.
I can see large fuel trucks.

[Luckin]

Did I hear right that Marcus has hurt his shoulder?

[jonkka]

Difference is bigger now than it was in the morning. Looks bad...

[A.F.F.]

WTF ? Marcus hurt his shoulder ?

[N.O.T]

2.4 seconds lost here for marcus.....2.9 the overal difference..... !!! MASSACRE !!!!

[N.O.T]

Atko also closing to Latvala .....

[A.F.F.]

Well... Hänninen still pushing really fast. Too bad he is so far behind overall :mark:

[bt52b]

WTF ? Marcus hurt his shoulder ?

On a tight corner.

[N.O.T]

how ???

[noel157]

"Shoulder popped out". Old moto-X wound.

[bt52b]

how ???

On the tight twisty stuff. Might be ok?

[A.F.F.]

Yes, just an old war wound from motorcross :)

Aroujo already passed Rauam. It's Hänninen's turn on next stage :up:

[noel157]

McShea does not sound too confident about staying ahead of Toshi. Come on Nial, go for it. 25 secs in it.

[Timole]

Yes, just an old war wound from motorcross :)

Aroujo already passed Rauam. It's Hänninen's turn on next stage :up:

hopefully not!

[bt52b]

PWRC is very tight. Toshi took 24s out of McShea on that last stage, and is now 24.8s behind him now.

[A.F.F.]

hopefully not!

;) :up:

I don't think I can prevent him doing that:

[bt52b]

Dodgy Roge Dodge McDodge

[A.F.F.]

McShea does not sound too confident about staying ahead of Toshi. Come on Nial, go for it. 25 secs in it.

Arai, Hänninen, Aroujo and Mason have been totally fastest drivers for the whole weekend. With all due respect, McShea is only in the lead with very smart and steady drive. Not because the pace.

[Timole]

;) :up:

I don't think I can prevent him doing that:
juho has done great job so far, but it´s rallying and you know it isn´t over till it´s over.

[A.F.F.]

juho has done great job so far, but it´s rallying and you know it isn´t over till it´s over.

Yes I know. Actually Juho has plenty of time to roll again .. or twice :D

[GallardoGT]

Great live radio btw; Colin jumping over the fench, likes the sandwiches of Citroën better then from Ford and talks secretly with Petter behind rented cars.

[xavier]

Is there a way to get the eye in the sky without being a WRC+ paid member?

thanks.

[noel157]

Arai, Hänninen, Aroujo and Mason have been totally fastest drivers for the whole weekend. With all due respect, McShea is only in the lead with very smart and steady drive. Not because the pace.

Certainly not disputing that but smart and steady ain't harming his chances so far but now he needs to be smart, steady and fast and just match Toshi or keep him with him or no more than 5 secs per SS behind him. Considering the circumstances of his drive earlier this week he's doing ok.

[Ciarank]

Yep, Niall is cute enough to know that Toshi has to take all the risks. Don't forget that Alistair McRae has driven the same sort of rally as Niall- and he is leading Group N 25seconds in front of the Fermanagh pair. Fingers crossed, Niall will get a good result today.

[Timole]

Yes I know. Actually Juho has plenty of time to roll again .. or twice :D

Jeah. I think there will be some losses in next stages, because the time differences are so small.

[jonkka]

Everyone gone to sleep?

[bt52b]

Great live radio btw; Colin jumping over the fench, likes the sandwiches of Citroën better then from Ford and talks secretly with Petter behind rented cars.

In Colin's Sandwich WRC, Subaru leads from Citroen and Ford :p

[Erki]

No.

[dimviii]

this stage seems to have more than 120 km/h average :eek: :eek: :eek:

suddenly ......i can not sleep...why??

[xavier]

Everyone gone to sleep?

With that close of a fight, how could they? Though i know it's getting late in Europe... for once, great schedule for us North American Rally Fan.

[White Sauron]

Everyone gone to sleep?

Ei, olen tassa sinun kanssa)

[jonkka]

Gronholm's time is in, what's Loeb's answer? That be seen in 2 mins...

[jonkka]

Good, people were just so silent that I felt sooooo lonely :(

[Luckin]

Everyone gone to sleep?

It was hard and painful decision to stay awake...

WTF has Loeb done now ?!!

[jonkka]

Lost 0.6secs

[KKS]

small off for Seb OMG! but only 0.6 slower then MArcus

[dimviii]

6 cars inside 1,1 seconds :D

[Zico]

+ 0.6 to Gronholms time, lead reduced to 2.3 secs.

[Luckin]

Yeah, it just seemed he stopped in the stage, but it was after he crossed the finnish. I'm just getting tired :)

[kleisj]

small off for Seb OMG! but only 0.6 slower then MArcus

Saw it!!! but it was after the flying!!! I thought he did a mistake on stage! No such luck!!!....!!!

[N.O.T]

Loeb took 0.6 on the small one.....

[kleisj]

Maybe is turning to Loebs favour. The 2 next stages was faster first time around.
We wait and see

[JAM]

Fantastic fight for the lead!! group N is also very interesting. It's a pitty the problem that Armindo had yesterday with the rear diff, that team had two big problems with the car in 3 rallyes... during two years in the national championship they ahd almost no problems at all.

[jonkka]

Helo is filming another helo? Huh?

[jonkka]

Perhaps it was getting too windy to fly?

[xavier]

Loeb took 0.6 on the small one.....

Who knows, maybe there will be a meaningfull SSS this time around!

[kleisj]

Who do you think will win it?
I think Loeb will keep the edge. I hope not though....

[jonkka]

Sordo speeding up, he doesn't want to be overtaken by Solberg jr.

[jonkka]

But Latvala is still slower than Atkinson, that might get tight now

[xavier]

Who do you think will win it?
I think Loeb will keep the edge. I hope not though....
I'd give Seb 70% chance to win...
for the other battles... I give J-M on top of Chris and Dani over Petter.

[kleisj]

Eye in the sky is very impressive as a concept but is not working all time . Gives a feed for 10secs and then stops again. Why is not used in other rallies as well? But more efficient transmission would be needed.

Gron on stage now

[jonkka]

Slow 1st split for Loeb

[kleisj]

1.4 Gron ahead on the 1st split

[Luckin]

1.4s on the first split is quite a lot... Let's see in which way it develops further

[jonkka]

And splits freeze... grrr...

[xavier]

ohh... Marcus 1.4 faster... that's a hell of a fight! It looks drier.. does anyone know if the tire choice is the same with Seb and Marcus ?

[N.O.T]

Damn Loeb lost 1.7 on just 1 split and the next stage started so no more splits....

[Luckin]

Arrrgh, I forgot the splits are gone for now, since Whanga Coast is on.

[Erki]

Splits already n SS17. oh well..

[bt52b]

What's that thing?

Mikko "The Gearshift" :D

[Luckin]

2.7s on 2nd split... Come on, Marcus!

[N.O.T]

Daniel Sordo
Citroen "The car is more, more grip."


Marcus Gronholm
Ford "I am fighting. I hope now its starts to rain, he (Loeb) is on a little bit harder (tyre choice)"

Mikko Hirvonen
Ford "Its getting wetter, I think thats good for us."

Manfred Stohl
Citroen "It was raining at the start and then 3 or 4 kilometres before the end it is completely dry. Tyre choice is very important."

Petter Solberg
Subaru "We will see, still a long way to go."

Chris Atkinson
Subaru "Got to rush and get our car sorted."

Jari-Matti Latvala
Ford "I felt it was quite okay, no big mistakes, a couple of corners a bit wide."

Henning Solberg
Ford "It's much dryer now. The stage is nice and working out. We are here now, two more stages to go."

Luis Perez Companc
Ford "It is very dry and and you have a lot of grip."

Federico Villagra
Ford "The surface is very nice."

Urmo Aava
Mitsubishi "Now it is drying up and it is better for me and how our car set-up. We try to keep our nerves."

Matthew Wilson
Ford "I made a couple of silly mistakes. The grip is just fantastic now and you can really lean on the tyre and the car. Some of the faster places where you have them (big moments) its not so nice."

[kleisj]

Ohhh ......... Grrrrrrrrrr
0.2 still Loeb in front....!

[xavier]

wow... it's getting closer... from Rally radio, i get seb still ahead by 0.2...

I did not manage to figure if Seb got different tires than Marcus.. and appernetly rain is coming up....

[jonkka]

Doesn't look like it would rain so Marcus might be in problems in the long one

[xavier]

Daniel Sordo
Marcus Gronholm
Ford "I am fighting. I hope now its starts to rain, he (Loeb) is on a little bit harder (tyre choice)"


that's the answer...

[Zico]

Despite being so tired, Im on the edge of my seat!

Can anyone tell me of a closer lead battle than this?!?

[kleisj]

Doesn't look like it would rain so Marcus might be in problems in the long one

Radio said 10 mins ago that rain started.

[bt52b]

wow... it's getting closer... from Rally radio, i get seb still ahead by 0.2...

I did not manage to figure if Seb got different tires than Marcus.. and appernetly rain is coming up....

Seb has slightly harder tyres than Bosse, according to Bosse

[teufel]

Bosse 7.43.0

[euskalteam]

Manfred is using his wippers sometimes....

[kleisj]

Also i think this stage is dump already

[teufel]

the gap is 0.2 now for Seb!

[xavier]

Doesn't look like it would rain so Marcus might be in problems in the long one

wanna bet that it will start raining half way though the stage?... Seb will take time at the beginning and then lose some at the end....

It seems even the elements will try to make this more thrilling..

This rally, might get on the top of your list of closest rally ever.

[N.O.T]

Well if it rains its gronholms if it doesn't Loeb harder compound could work better.....

[jonkka]

Radio said 10 mins ago that rain started.

Eye doesn't support that, no wipers on and dust coming behind the car so it's dry. Could be raining at the end of the stage but how far into the stage is anybody's guess.

[jonkka]

This rally, might get on the top of your list of closest rally ever.

Could be, there already are two Loeb vs Marcus finishes on that list, each time in that order.

[Erki]

Looks like it's dry. Stohl's time in split 4 is faster than Bosse's from previous run...

[kleisj]

No wipers working on the 17th stage....

[teufel]

bosse 3.1 faster than mikko on split1

[dimviii]

for just 0.3 secs Hanninen lost the stage from Araujo
it would be the 7th stage victory in a row!! :eek:

[teufel]

oooh, it's thrilling!

[Luckin]

Marcus's 1st split is 9s better than on the first run...

[N.O.T]

1.5 slower Loeb is......

[bt52b]

Bosse 1.4s faster thru split1

[Luckin]

Loeb +1.4

Pressure is on!

Atkinson, meanwhile, pushing for 4th

[euskalteam]

I only want bouth finish without problems.....

[teufel]

I only want bouth finish without problems.....

exactly my thoughts!

[jonkka]

This time Marcus' advantage must last or it's over...

[N.O.T]

Loeb narrowed the gap to 0.8 on the second.....stage is reported dry....

[bt52b]

Bosse .8s faster thru split2

[N.O.T]

Loeb had a close moment......

[Luckin]

Loeb fighting back once again... +0.8 on the second one

You can really see both Marcus and Seb "touching" the ditches on the side of the road.

[N.O.T]

Gronholm lost to hirvonen on the next split......

[N.O.T]

0.3 now from Gronholm.....tyres tyres tyres.......

[jonkka]

Which is worrying thing to know

[White Sauron]

oh... really nervous...

[Luckin]

They're in fact dead level now, but Marcus seems to be losing it slightly, unfortunately.

[Luckin]

Is it just my impression or we have no splits?

[N.O.T]

splits stuck.....

[jonkka]

Yup

[N.O.T]

another close call by Loeb.....

[bt52b]

Bosse .3s faster thru split3

[teufel]

Go Bosse!

[bt52b]

Loeb's harder tyres will give him an advantage on the last two splits

[Luckin]

Dunno who's that guy with Becs on WRR, but his comment "Seb is using all of his 9 lives" is very good :)

[jonkka]

Latvala is already behind Atko...

[N.O.T]

1.9 faster Now.......Looks good for Gronholm....

[Zico]

Loeb's harder tyres will give him an advantage on the last two splits

No, not necesarily.. its raining now.. ;)

[Luckin]

Oh my God, 1.9s for Marcus, there might be a bit of rain!

[jonkka]

Loeb loses... :eek:

[Corny]

can someone pleasse give me the splits site.?

[White Sauron]

Push Marcus push!!!

[bt52b]

Bosse 1.9s faster thru split4

[euskalteam]

http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/analyzer.php?rally=11&stage=17&results=1&jwrc=

[N.O.T]

Latvala lost his place......

[Luckin]

can someone pleasse give me the splits site.?

http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/analyzer.php?rally=11&stage=17&results=2

[kleisj]

Aaaaa where are the splits???? not good time to stuck!!!!

[White Sauron]

Why is Atko so fast on last splits??? Hope Loeb isn't on the same tyres...((

[Erki]

Bad split 5 for Fords...

[Luckin]

On section 5, Atkinson is faster than Marcus by 4s!

[jonkka]

Gulp

[N.O.T]

Loeb pulled 1 second back....0.9 the difference......AMAZING......one for the ages.....

[bt52b]

Loeb +.9s

[Corny]

it's like the old WRC years! :D

[teufel]

0.9 again!

[jonkka]

Still ahead... final split coming up...

[teufel]

what a fight! I only wish we had not always the same two drivers...

[N.O.T]

Atko really pushed on the final section.....Gronholm finished.....

[Luckin]

It really can go either way and Mystery Creek superspecial will be one of the crucial stages of this year's championship.

[bt52b]

Toshi is a couple of secs behing McShea at split4

[teufel]

Stohl had a very good stage times!

[jonkka]

Bosse leads into final stage!

[kleisj]

Marcus in front by 0.7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[N.O.T]

0.9 Gronholm ahead.....I doubt he loses this......

[jparker]

Assuming Gronholm is on the age, for Atkinson to finish just 2 sec behind him it's quite remarkable. After all Atko can be fast.

[bt52b]

Loeb +.7

[Luckin]

Marcus infront by 0.7s. That is absolutely thrilling!

[White Sauron]

Yeah!!!!!!!!!! Go Bosse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Corny]

what the.. 0.7 between for a super special!!!!

this is why I love this sport :D

[jonkka]

Bosse leads by 0.7seconds and only SSS left...

[Erki]

Can't do anything but laugh. :laugh: Great, great rally, great, great drivers!

Bosse, please don't retire! :D

[bt52b]

Toshi leading PWRC

[jonkka]

Will this be the first-ever sub-second win?

[euskalteam]

Amazing NZ Rallye, amazing Seb and Marcus, and amazing time for Atko!!!

[N.O.T]

hmmmmm I think its very hard for Loeb to do it....

[Luckin]

I think we can clearly see that Marcus is better driver, because he is 0,002s per kilometre faster than Loeb. And that speaks for itself :D

[Erki]

Is the eye in the sky at the SSS too? And how can I see it..?

[N.O.T]

about 1 hour before the start.....

[Luckin]

Arai leading PWRC by 0.6s. Well, what to say :)

[Zico]

Can't do anything but laugh. :laugh: Great, great rally, great, great drivers!

Bosse, please don't retire! :D

Unbelievable isnt it! For me it has to be one of the most exciting and engrossing rallies ever!


Big mexican wave for two living legends fighting tooth and nail on the very edge of wipeout! This is true rallying my friends.. finally. ;)

Rock!

[N.O.T]

After about 350 kms just 0.7 secs apart......amazing.

[MikeD]

Loeb beat Gronholm by 0.5 in the first atempt at Myster Creak.

I think Marcus will just take this one ... unfortunately :(

[Luckin]

I'm going to have a nap and hopefully my alarm clock will wake me up in less than hour...

[xavier]

that's one Super special Stage you dont want to miss!!!

what a thrill!!!!

I think Marcus will take it.. but it will be Allen's way, Maximum attack for both of them!

PS: that SSS might very weel decide of the Title!!!!!!

[sollitt]

And a great drive by Mason to hopefully secure a PWRC podium after all his bad luck.
He's been the class act in that field, especially after Hanninen's mishaps.

[Koz]

God damn I wish I was at Mistrey Creek now!
Will be very close, could go either way. Absolutely brilliant!
Very sad Latvala has no chance against Atkinson. :(

[dimviii]

also Pozzo lost the 3rd position by Mason :eek:

[jparker]

What happens if both Loeb and Gronholm are tie after the SSS?

[pentti]

This is too much for my heart. I understand we can see live action on wrc.com from super special. Can't wait. Can you?

[bt52b]

SS5 Mystery Creek 1 - Loeb
.............................- Bosse +.5s
SS9 Mystery Creek 2 - Loeb +.4s
.............................- Bosse


SS5 Mystery Creek 1 - Arai +2.1s
.............................- McShea
SS9 Mystery Creek 2 - Arai +1.5s
.............................- McShea

[Singulus]

Need some help: where exactly is the link on wrc.com for viewing the last SSS for free? I'm a bit stuck?!

[ST205GT4]

Looks like it's been an amazing battle today. Sorry I woke up so late! Can't wait to see the telecast.

Hope Gronholm wins. It will make the championship so much more interesting.

Good effort by Atkinson to keep fighting as well. Has Latvala had a problem or wrong tyre choice or something? Or just slower?

[xavier]

What happens if both Loeb and Gronholm are tie after the SSS?

I've no clue.... I am positive it never happend for a rally lead, but i guess it could have for 2-8 position...

the only tie breaker rule i can imageine is the # of SS wins... if my count his right Loeb has more.

[bt52b]

What happens if both Loeb and Gronholm are tie after the SSS?



22.3 Dead heat in a Championship rally




In the event of a dead heat in a rally, the competitor who accomplished the best time for the first special stage will be proclaimed winner. If this is not sufficient to be able to decide between the competitors who are the times of the second, third, fourth, etc. special stages shall be taken into consideration. This rule may be applied at any time during the rally



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http://www.fia.com/resources/documents/855403674__Rally_Prescrip_Gen.pdf

[TheTiger]

I think we can clearly see that Marcus is better driver, because he is 0,002s per kilometre faster than Loeb. And that speaks for itself :D

Yes, the difference is quite clear....
I've allways said Grønholm is the better driver of the two... :)