WRC Secto Rally Finland 2025

[MYS]

The route of Secto Rally Finland 2025 will be revealed this coming Wednesday 5.2. Any suggestions which stages would you like to see in itinerary?

[Backa]

The route of Secto Rally Finland 2025 will be revealed this coming Wednesday 5.2. Any suggestions which stages would you like to see in itinerary?

Ouninpohja, Paijala, Myhinpaa, Harju, Ruuhimaki as power stage. In terms of less obvious choices, I like Horkka from 2015-2016.

There is probably some reasoning behind this that I am unaware of but I am surprised Ouninpohja is used in 32km-34km version so rarely. I understand wanting to make some changes in itinerary every year but in last ten years, only 2015, 2016 and 2024 had it.

Same with Monte Carlo this year, it had 10 different stages and while they were generally good, a lot of most classic stages are left unused for many years.

[Rallyper]

There´s a lot of stages west of Laukka like Palsankylä and Valkola. Also I´d like Sirkkamäki (from 2010 I think) south of Konnevesi.

[HarriK]

https://sectorallyfinland.fi/en/route/

Wednesday 30.7.2025 19:00 Start ceremonies, Jyväskylä Harbour
Thursday 31.7.2025 09:01 Shakedown, Ruuhimäki
19:05 SS 1 Harju 1 (2,50 km)
19:40 Service A, Paviljonki (15 min)
Friday 1.8.2025 08:03 SS 2 Laukaa 1 (17,96 km)
09:03 SS 3 Saarikas 1 (15,8 km)
10:23 SS 4 Myhinpää 1 (14,60 km)
11:51 SS 5 Ruuhimäki 1 (7,76 km)
13:01 Service B Paviljonki (40 min)
14:44 SS 6 Laukaa 2 (17,96 km)
15:44 SS 7 Saarikas 2 (15,8 km)
17:04 SS 8 Myhinpää 2 (14,60 km)
18:35 SS 9 Ruuhimäki 2 (7,76 km)
19:30 SS 10 Harju 2 (2,50 km)
20:05 Service C, Paviljonki (45 min, flexi)
Saturday 2.8.2025 08:01 SS 11 Parkkola 1 (15,55 km)
09:42 SS 12 Västilä 1 (18,94 km)
10:36 SS 13 Päijälä 1 (20,19 km)
12:05 SS 14 Leustu 1 (16,39 km)
13:35 Service D, Paviljonki (40 min)
15:01 SS 15 Parkkola 2 (15,55 km)
16:42 SS 16 Västilä 2 (18,94 km)
17:36 SS 17 Päijälä 2 (20,19 km)
19:05 SS 18 Leustu 2 (16,39 km)
20:15 Service E Paviljonki (45 min, flexi)
Sunday / Ouninday 3.8.2025 10:35 SS 19 Ouninpohja 1 (23,98 km)
11:15 Regroup, Kakaristo (1 h 20 min)
13:15 SS 20 Ouninpohja 2 (Wolf Power Stage) (23,98 km)
14:15 Podium, Kakaristo
https://i0.wp.com/sectorallyfinland.fi/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/reitti-2025.png?resize=740%2C523&ssl=1

[Vepe]

Parkkola is 2003 version, but the start is from Road 607 like Surkee 2016.

Leustu is combination of end 2/3rds of Leustu 2012 with ending of Horkka 2016, running the Palolahdentie loop from Horkka in opposite direction.

Ouninpohja ends after Kakaristo junction.

Saarikas is reversed, with the start on the big road before last years start and ends after the Tänak crash corner. Small changes made to start of Myhinpää.

Harju isn't a loop anymore, but the lenght given doesn't match either the 90's or 10-20's version, so it remains to be seen.

Ruuhimäki SD wasn't covered, but I'd assume it's the same as last year.

[TypeR]

Nice 24kms of powerstage :D

....but 2 stages give 10 points

[EstWRC]

Wow Ouninpohja as power stage. Wonderful

[rallyfiend]

Nice 24kms of powerstage :D

....but 2 stages give 10 points

When it's this stage, I think we can get over it. That's a hell of a stage to be fighting for so many points on!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice 24kms of powerstage :D

....but 2 stages give 10 points

If being fastest on any stage deserves it, it's Ouninpohja !

[doubled1978]

When it's this stage, I think we can get over it. That's a hell of a stage to be fighting for so many points on!

Yeah, I actually like the idea. Lot’s to win on two passes of that fabulous stage. Should be spectacular.

[bearclaw]

We are planning to visit Rally Finland after the beautiful autum edition in 2021 again. On our list is the infamous crest/bend section at the Päijälä stage near the end. Is it possible to get there via the finishline or is this road closed form the main road towards the finish?

In 2024 there was a map that several roads to this section were closed. Is the only way to walk from the Päijälä junction to the jumps?

Thanks for helping us out.

[masa90]

The rallymagazine will only became revealed later quite close to rally. But, it should be pretty much the same as it was in 2024. Päijälä is great stage for spectators. Hope you have a nice visit to Finland and enjoy.

[satnav]

Rally Guide 1 out today ;

https://sectorallyfinland.fi/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/SRF25-RG1_A4_FINAL_200325-1.pdf

[flatout227]

Hello guys.. Looking again to attend this rally.. But it is really difficult to find any accommodation with reasonable price. Do you have any that are not on airbnb on booking?

[EstWRC]

Just wait till its closer to the rally, the last two years we booked at the end of may or even later i think and got it with reasonable price, both time through AirBnb

Also depends what is reasonable of course

[flatout227]

Just wait till its closer to the rally, the last two years we booked at the end of may or even later i think and got it with reasonable price, both time through AirBnb

Also depends what is reasonable of course

Okay thanks.. 3 years ago I booked at start of may for really good price.. This year I thought to book earlier but prices and avaibility shocked me.

[flat_right]

So the entry list was closed yesterday and will be published on Friday. Then we will know how serious Ogier is with tile run in 2025

[240RS]

So the entry list was closed yesterday and will be published on Friday. Then we will know how serious Ogier is with tile run in 2025

Seb Ogier will most likely sit this one out. The motivation to compete is lower than it was last year.

First, Elfyn and Kalle are in strong championship positions especially now that the tricky gravel rounds are out of the way. Two, he has an obvious soft-spot for Ott Tanak, unlike the case last year with Neuville. Third, Toyota's manufacturers' lead is very healthy, and if that situation were to change in the next few events, there would be plenty of opportunities later on in the season to lend a hand.

[flat_right]

Seb Ogier will most likely sit this one out. The motivation to compete is lower than it was last year.

First, Elfyn and Kalle are in strong championship positions especially now that the tricky gravel rounds are out of the way. Two, he has an obvious soft-spot for Ott Tanak, unlike the case last year with Neuville. Third, Toyota's manufacturers' lead is very healthy, and if that situation were to change in the next few events, there would be plenty of opportunities later on in the season to lend a hand.

In my opinion, the motivation is even better this year. This year, the pace is truly there to compete with anyone so he feels that he can do it. Therefore I wouldn't bet on it.

But if Ogier sits out, Oliver probably will get his place. Latest I heard was that the decision about Oliver will be made just before the deadline. So if Seb decides to drive, I think Oliver sits out and vice versa.

[WRCStan]

Hardly. Seb won 8 titles in a row and then went part time through lack of motivation. Of course if he wanted to do full time he would win the 9th, 10th, 11th... But he chooses not to and is vocal enough about it. What's with all the 'he feels like he can do it this year'? It's the same every year because he's a cut above everyone else.

I'll bet on him not going to Finland but if he does it'll be a co-decision with Toyota and having nothing to do with a driver championship charge.

[flat_right]

Hardly? Guy was pushing for 9th last year, everybody saw that. Only his own mistakes took that away from him.

[WRCStan]

The turning up was for the manufacturers championship because they were flagging and he dropped a round in Poland he'd have made up for later on. A driver championship would've been a sideshow which, obviously, generates it's own chat.

[focus206]

Hardly. Seb won 8 titles in a row and then went part time through lack of motivation. Of course if he wanted to do full time he would win the 9th, 10th, 11th... But he chooses not to and is vocal enough about it. What's with all the 'he feels like he can do it this year'? It's the same every year because he's a cut above everyone else.


Ogier was absolutely desperate after his crash in CER. Was it because he didn't care about his 9th title? Or because he felt sorry for Toyota? Yeah, nobody believes that.
A driver who IS (not was) a cut above everyone else, wouldn't bin it 3 times in a row, losing a golden chance to the title. On Pirelli + hybrid car, Ogier wasn't going to win another title. This year with Hankook and hybridless is a different story. He's retired from being a full time driver, but if there is a good chance, he will try to get the 9th title.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/will-ogier-return-in-finland/

[WRCStan]

He's paid to do a job for Toyota, that's his motivation. I'm not saying he's faultless and after CER, one round to go, Toyota were behind Hyundai, he had failed them. This time last year before Finland, Toyota were behind Hyundai. This year they are 65 points ahead. Do Toyota need him in Finland this year? Elfyn and Kalle should have it covered. Let's find out Friday.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier suffered last year after time out of the car. This year he's going well and the best thing he can do for Toyota and himself is to go all-in and drive every round.

And with Tanak back on form, it's better for Toyota to have Ogier to fight him and help either Evans or himself to take the WDC.

[focus206]

He's paid to do a job for Toyota, that's his motivation.

I don't believe that he does it only for Toyota. Ogier loves to win, he was and still would be very reluctant to give up positions to Toyota teammates.
Why was he so desperate after the crash in CER? Two options: either he realized he's out of the driver championship fight because of his crash, or he was sad because he costed Toyota valuable points for the manufacturer title. I don't think many will pick option two.

[EstWRC]

Well Ogier won last year in Finland, of course a lot of it was to do with the main contenders crashing out but I remember that he actually had very good pace on the event.

[TypeR]

Game on! Ogier goes to Finland!
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/ogier-to-contest-rally-finland/

[rallyfiend]

Game on! Ogier goes to Finland!
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/ogier-to-contest-rally-finland/

I wonder if Solberg's entry for Estonia will be changed for a Big Boy car as a result of this?

[BleAivano]

Oliver Solberg was suppoed to be at Höljes the upcoming weekend, but was told to report at Rally Finland.
It was speculated that it was instead of Ogier, but we now know that Ogier will drive in Finland, so what will Oliver be doing/driving in Finland?


https://worldrally.se/oliver-snabb-inkallad-till-finland/

[Mackie]

M-Sport?

[flat_right]

As expected, Ogier will drive in Finland. And my gut says after Estonia, Ogier will do rest of the championship as he smells blood (you heard it here first :D ). He is in a great form, Yaris and Hankook suit him well and why not go for a 9th.

[deephouse]

Of course he will never admit it, but yeah, I think he is after that 9th title. He will just surprisingly enter every event from now on and at the end say that he didn't have other choice.

[EstWRC]

My personal opinion is it all depends on Finland result. If he fails there then I think he isn’t going for the championship but if he succeeds then definitely

[CeskyOndra]

I think Toyota just wants drivers title. And they don't believe in Evans and Rovanpera. Tanak is just looking better now and Ogier is the only one to beat him.

[TypeR]

Good for rally fans also, who are going to watch in Finland :)

Sound like it's going to be mega fight!

[CeskyOndra]

Good for rally fans also, who are going to watch in Finland :)

Sound like it's going to be mega fight!

Good for first time visiting Finland🥳

[Kras]

What Ogier is doing is really dishonest and i hope someone among the drivers will eventually call him out on it. He's competing for the title while hedging his reputation by pretending he isn't. He'll either win the title or he'll devalue someone elses title by pretending he wasn't even trying. It's such poor sportsmanship.

Being so afraid of being beaten is pretty damn pathetic

[WRCStan]

What Ogier is doing is really dishonest and i hope someone among the drivers will eventually call him out on it. He's competing for the title while hedging his reputation by pretending he isn't. He'll either win the title or he'll devalue someone elses title by pretending he wasn't even trying. It's such poor sportsmanship.

Being so afraid of being beaten is pretty damn pathetic

Lol wtf. I was wrong about this rally but stand by my stance. If he wins Finland but doesn't go to Paraguay, what are you going to call him then? Unsportsmanlike because he's not showing up to the title fight he's definitely keen on?

[CeskyOndra]

What Ogier is doing is really dishonest and i hope someone among the drivers will eventually call him out on it. He's competing for the title while hedging his reputation by pretending he isn't. He'll either win the title or he'll devalue someone elses title by pretending he wasn't even trying. It's such poor sportsmanship.

Being so afraid of being beaten is pretty damn pathetic

I can't disagree.

[trykmann]

I don't know what is going on in Ogiers mind regarding the title chase, but we should look at this from another perspective. We can be mad about him not driving a full season or not retiring completely, but look at the current results from this season. He still is one of the best drivers out there and in the last rallies only Tänak was able to fight with him. Toyota as a team wants results and Ogier collects points for them, he hasn't been outscored by his teammates on a regular basis and there isn't line of faster drivers are waiting for this seat. Right now it is a privilege to still watch him compete and be the benchmark for other drivers.

Also I don't agree with Ogier messing up the drivers championship with his part-time season. He doesn't have a significant advantage anymore regarding his starting position and all the championship contenders just have to be faster than him to get good points from an event.

[drive]

Right now it is a privilege to still watch him compete and be the benchmark for other drivers.

Also I don't agree with Ogier messing up the drivers championship with his part-time season. He doesn't have a significant advantage anymore regarding his starting position and all the championship contenders just have to be faster than him to get good points from an event.

Agree 100%

[COD]

With Ogier in, it seems that Solberg not in rally1 as rumoured

[Fast Eddie WRC]

With Ogier in, it seems that Solberg not in rally1 as rumoured

Estonia is his opportunity, he doesn't need Finland too.

Also Toyota still need Ogier based on recent results and the weaknesses of Rovanpera and Katsuta.

And on Ogier, he's an all-time great and more than earned the right to do whatever he likes.

[AndersX]

Ok, just hear me out 😀, what if Ogier in fact wants to help his good friend Ott more than Elfyn? Every time Seb is driving, he is another high level competitor Elfy needs to beat. Just saying..😀

[deephouse]

Ok, just hear me out ��, what if Ogier in fact wants to help his good friend Ott more than Elfyn? Every time Seb is driving, he is another high level competitor Elfy needs to beat. Just saying..��

That's just stupid. I don't have nothing against Ogier, but he is showing again and again that he is selfish and wants to win no matter what (I actually disliked him during his dominance, but now I like it that he is here, because he isn't on the same level or just others did get better = more action, more competition, more excitment - and 2 way battle isn't fun to watch, but 5 guys fighting for the title, that's something)

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GvAelq9XgAANS6O?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GvAelq-WgAAEpEz?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GvAelq7XUAAcF_s?format=jpg&name=large

[satnav]

Juha Kankkunen to drive Toyota’s new hydrogen rally car at Rally Finland

https://x.com/RallyJournal/status/1942505599297806751

[satnav]

Recce videos are now on youtube


https://www.youtube.com/@sectorallyfinland/videos

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rally Journal reports Evans had good testing and is happy with the car for the coming fast gravel.

But they quote Tanak as finding it quite tough to get a good set-up.

https://rallyjournal.com/ott-tanak-reports-on-his-findings/

[flat_right]

Rally Journal reports Evans had good testing and is happy with the car for the coming fast gravel.

But they quote Tanak as finding it quite tough to get a good set-up.

https://rallyjournal.com/ott-tanak-reports-on-his-findings/

Which is totally understandable. Tänak talked about this after the South Estonian Rally. The "problem" is that this is the new-old Hyundai, and they don’t have a proper baseline setup for these fast gravel roads. Since Estonia and Finland are linked rallies, they needed to fix some settings for these two. The initial testing phase was simply about finding a baseline and general understanding where they are. From there, they began to build. So the testing in Finland, Estonia, and finally the rally itself was very important for the whole process. Now, Thierry and Adrien will also test some components, which will provide valuable feedback to the engineers. So what Tänak probably meant by calling this phase tough was that it was all very intense—they had so much to test and figure out in a short amount of time.

[bearclaw]

Regarding tickets, because my last rally findland is a few years back, is it still possible, like in the old NESTE rally days, to walk in buy tickets, maps and an official program directly in Jyväskylä or a nearby gas station? Or do we have to buy a ticket, maps and so on in advance, via the rally homepage. Thanks

[ReRe]

Regarding tickets, because my last rally findland is a few years back, is it still possible, like in the old NESTE rally days, to walk in buy tickets, maps and an official program directly in Jyväskylä or a nearby gas station? Or do we have to buy a ticket, maps and so on in advance, via the rally homepage. Thanks

In the last few years we always buy rally pass and program at the gas station St1 Mäntsälä. This is list of gas stations on instagram post from last year:

https://eu.zonerama.com/Link/Photo/546283268/13543887?secret=9mtw031ngXJBg81d9o5wVM2oI

Hope this year it stays the same.

[satnav]

Regarding tickets, because my last rally findland is a few years back, is it still possible, like in the old NESTE rally days, to walk in buy tickets, maps and an official program directly in Jyväskylä or a nearby gas station? Or do we have to buy a ticket, maps and so on in advance, via the rally homepage. Thanks

This is from the webpage there is a full list of stations there as well ; https://sectorallyfinland.fi/en/tickets-2025/

Physical Collector’s Edition Rally Passes will be available for purchase starting from July 14, 2025, at selected HelmiSimpukka stations across Finland for the 2025 Secto Rally Finland.
Please note that cultural vouchers (e.g., sports and culture benefits) are not accepted as a payment method at the stations.

[satnav]

The Programme for this year is now available online ;

https://nakoislehti.media.fi/keskisuomalainen/f6843bd2-01bd-4f78-b48b-8d35bead9603/1?lang=en

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rovanpera is resigned to his fate...

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/rovanpera-resigned-to-his-fate/

[tbazsi95]

Something happened during Fourmaux's pre event test
https://www.instagram.com/p/DMfRl29Ifo5/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

[denkimi]

Rovanpera is resigned to his fate...

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/rovanpera-resigned-to-his-fate/
I have some doubts to him pointing at the tyres.
They provide grip or they don't, that's all there is to them. Him being slow doesn't seem to be the tyres fault.

[meh]

Something happened during Fourmaux's pre event test
https://www.instagram.com/p/DMfRl29Ifo5/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

https://x.com/RonimoiFn/status/1948343951380910573

[focus206]

I have some doubts to him pointing at the tyres.
They provide grip or they don't, that's all there is to them. Him being slow doesn't seem to be the tyres fault.

Clearly he's very fast on asphalt, as we saw from Canarias. He can't have just forgotten how to drive on gravel, it must be the balance and the set up of the hybridless + Hankook tyres. Others adapted better, Kalle and Neuville not so much...

[EstWRC]

I have some doubts to him pointing at the tyres.
They provide grip or they don't, that's all there is to them. Him being slow doesn't seem to be the tyres fault.

It’s not that simple

[saco0o]

no Oli eh? such a shame, man.
Taka is not perfoming well enough over these years to justify his seat in the top team. i wonder how long toyota will keep him just because thats how japanese mentality works.
i find it cool, sure, but he is not that good, sorry :/

[Tauri_J]

It has been really dry in Finland and looks like it stays like that before the rally.

Cleaning usually not that big of a deal there, but this year might be worse than years before?

[M3 Jambo]

Recce'd Friday's stages yesterday and the first guys will definately lose a fair bit of time road cleaning.

[EstWRC]

yeah surviving mode like always for first runners on friday

will be interesting to see how Tänak manages it, he was good in 2019 even when first on the road but that was with Toyota which has always been good in low grip conditions while its Hyundais weakest point

have they managed to fix that problem with the new chassis like they intended to, we will find out on friday.

[satukata]

https://youtu.be/9yMPmDwwTBw SERVICE PARK atmosphere 29.7.

[CeskyOndra]

More and more rain and thunder appearing on my forecasts apps. Frustrating for Evans, first event he is not cleaning and it could be already wet :D

[M3 Jambo]

Evans will be praying for rain, there will still be a lot of cleaning running second car.

[spyros]

If i remember correct, someone here said that it 'll be dry all the weekend, maybe its changing now.

[linni]

i wonder how long toyota will keep him just because thats how japanese mentality works.

As long as there will be a faster japanese driver.

[EstWRC]

Recce interviews

https://youtu.be/49nXDfVPJgc?si=YADeLQWoatSF6Rln

[meh]

If i remember correct, someone here said that it 'll be dry all the weekend, maybe its changing now.

https://www.yr.no/en/forecast/daily-table/2-655194/Finland/Central%20Finland%20Region/Jyv%C3%A4skyl%C3%A4/Jyv%C3%A4skyl%C3%A4

[TypeR]

35 second into rally Finland and home of WRC+ and we have rotating amp on SD :D

[spyros]

Good morning all, i realy hope Kalle finds something and fight with Ott for the win, i like this guy.

[Rallyper]

Morning rallyfans. Sitting at home this year as change. Let´s have a very exciting weekend on sight or behind keyboard.

[TypeR]

New calendar came out and WRC+ thought maybe let's try japanese? Commemtators already.. :D

[EstWRC]

Finally someone beats the time

[Rallyper]

"Stage stopped. Spectator issue."

[Rallyper]

stage running again, from 09.28.

[TypeR]

Taka sounded so confident like he had eaten Chuck Norris for breakfast :D but nothing to lose, full attack

[240RS]

Haha! Yohan Rossel had better prepare his cheque book. Big fine coming :)

[Morte66]

I am not seeing the rain I was promised.

[spyros]

its cleaning a lot but Sami did a very good time, lets see next run.

[Tauri_J]

I am not seeing the rain I was promised.

Who promised you rain?

If it comes its thunderous rain. So afternoon and hit or miss

[NoBudgetWRT]

I am not seeing the rain I was promised.

Not before 14 o´clock

[EstWRC]

Evans and Ogier 4 seconds faster than the first pass

[meh]

Evans and Ogier 4 seconds faster than the first pass

With that 1 sec per km it's going to be 1 minute loss for the tomorrow morning loop only for the front runners. Let the Friday heroes shine.

[EstWRC]

Tänak fastest now and also bettered his time by 4 seconds

[meh]

Nice time from McErlean - 2nd run and just 1 sec behind Tänak, 4th fastest. Yes, it's only a shakedown, but it gives some hope that M-Sport is not that far behind.

[meh]

For keeping the mood: https://areena.yle.fi/tv/ohjelmat/57-0lnKYEMNp - you can listen finnish rally radio

[meh]

With an attempt to help pickem-organizer, please recheck your pickems format: use everything in one line and use the names provided in the pickem list (not Tänak instead of Tanak).

I post it here as most likely no one revisits the pick 'em thread after posting.

With a quick scroll-through, the following participants should correct their entries:
* bandit12 (Tänak)
* fantastic.priit (not following the format)
* Reis Eduardo (Tänak)
* spark13 (missing own name)
* Quest (multiline)

[spyros]

Taka with a killer time, hope he finds a way to stay like this.

[Tauri_J]

Sadly they only drive stages twice

[spyros]

Its strange that Kalle's awesome performance on asphalt is not matched by that on dirt.

[bandit12]

...
Thanks. Kiitos. Aitäh.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Its strange that Kalle's awesome performance on asphalt is not matched by that on dirt.

Completely different tyres. His driving style doesn't get on with the gravel Hankooks.

But he commented yesterday that his PET was good and he may have found something to improve his speed here.

[CeskyOndra]

With an attempt to help pickem-organizer, please recheck your pickems format: use everything in one line and use the names provided in the pickem list (not Tänak instead of Tanak).

I post it here as most likely no one revisits the pick 'em thread after posting.

With a quick scroll-through, the following participants should correct their entries:
* bandit12 (Tänak)
* fantastic.priit (not following the format)
* Reis Eduardo (Tänak)
* spark13 (missing own name)
* Quest (multiline)

Im sorry I cant delete a message where I forget to add nickame :/

[PLuto]

Its strange that Kalle's awesome performance on asphalt is not matched by that on dirt.

Awesome performance on asphalt = awesome performance on Canarias. Dont forget that Canarias has very specific tarmac which is not same as others. I remember when Jan Kopecky arrived there for first time in IRC times and they had lot of problems to adapt setup and driving style to be working there. For me, simply Kalle found on Canarias something unique with setup and how to drive the car in that specific conditions.

[PLuto]

Im sorry I cant delete a message where I forget to add nickame :/

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[CeskyOndra]

Deleted

Thank you

[EstWRC]

Shakedown

https://youtu.be/T682rxxWT_I?si=T0B6ORGVKGK4-RA_

[Tauri_J]

According to rain radar, fridays stages have been hit with rain.

[spyros]

That means that Ott will fly.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shakedown

https://youtu.be/T682rxxWT_I?si=T0B6ORGVKGK4-RA_

Not bad and better than the official shakedown live video which got 100% negative comments

[wwbroe]

First stage of the rally, Harju, is now live but starting order reversed

[wwbroe]

First Rally 1 (Sesks) will start at 20h23 in Finland

[meh]

Latvala shows youngsters how driving should be done.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Latvala goes fastest beating some WRC2 regulars !

[trykmann]

Latvala goes fastest beating some WRC2 regulars !

We should be glad to have Latvala driving in Rally2, he still is a good benchmark for the youngsters.

[BlueStrike]

I guess that‘s a statement of intent from Tänak.

[meh]

How to get Estonian moody drivers (Virves, Tänak) smiling - give them a rally car and send to Jyvaskylä.

Let's hope the mood stays.

[NoBudgetWRT]

I guess that‘s a statement of intent from Tänak.

He seems to know something

[EstWRC]

Pretty impressive stage win while others were battling within 0.0 something.

But the real rally starts tomorrow

[dck1989]

Any videos of the hydrogen Toyota, to hear what it sounds like?

[Odd]

I have looked at yr.no weathercast for friday stages, and it seems that some rain happened this evening. Also some more rain during the second pass. I just hope Oyt has some smiles left after morning loop.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Any videos of the hydrogen Toyota, to hear what it sounds like?

Bit of it on this...
https://youtu.be/cfiO9257j7I?si=ElF-hhZL_D-n04Xj

[CeskyOndra]

Saturday's forecast looks so scary

[CeskyOndra]

Saturday's forecast looks so scary

Not on yr.no tho, but on windy, i prefer windy honestly

[Tauri_J]

That is lottery rain if it comes.

[meh]

Watching that "full-send" from Täank works instead of a morning coffee.

[EstWRC]

Man Ogier so on the limit everywhere

[EstWRC]

This will be a massive survival for Tänak.

Everyone coming faster

[Eli]

Is Laukaa the stage Lappi crashed last year?

[Tauri_J]

Yeah Ott needs to find something or even podium is difficult

[trykmann]

The second pass should be more equal.

[wwbroe]

Besttime for Taka

[EstWRC]

Yeah but the gaps can be huge already by lunch.

5 second already from here the loss.

But let’s see how it goes

[Rallyper]

Morning. Been watching since start, now also with keyboard...

[trykmann]

Yeah but the gaps can be huge already by lunch.

5 second already from here the loss.

But let’s see how it goes

Tänak lost here 0,28s/km. By lunch time with this speed his loss overall might be about 15 seconds from the rally leader.

[Tauri_J]

Fords still so slow starting from the back

[wwbroe]

Pajari showing his speed

[jonkka]

Quite telling that all M-Sport Fords are slower than road-opening Tanak despite having optimal road position.

[TypeR]

Quite telling that all M-Sport Fords are slower than road-opening Tanak despite having optimal road position.
They wouldn't win the stages with Toyota either..

Basically skipping wrc2 is the reason :D

[Tauri_J]

Quite telling that all M-Sport Fords are slower than road-opening Tanak despite having optimal road position.

Its the drivers

[Rallyper]

Let´s also talk Rally Finland, not only MSport...

[EstWRC]

Nice time from Virves. Just 0.7 down from Solberg

[wwbroe]

Linnemae only 0,3 down on Oliver

[wwbroe]

But Emil is flying

[meh]

WRC2/SS2: Lindholm with the best time (so far) and with the same overall time as Virves.

[EstWRC]

I don’t know if the second pass will be much better for Tänak and Evans cause all the veto cars and etc will come also through these stages and they have to come in their line

[Rallyper]

Well, Ott seems to have done a good job on Saarikas...

[Tauri_J]

Ogier slow suddenly

[EstWRC]

Kalle getting into the rhythm it seems but horrible to watch his driving. Not his style at all, so much work with the steering and all over the place

[Tauri_J]

Well, Ott seems to have done a good job on Saarikas...

Last year he crashed here

[wwbroe]

What a stage by Kalle

[Rallyper]

Old Kalle!!!

[wwbroe]

Looks like he found something after all considering the Hankooks

[meh]

WRC2/SS2: Latvala with the best time and to the lead.

[Rallyper]

Last year he crashed here

I know, for sure. Should I point out the spot if you like? ;)

[EstWRC]

Kalle suddenly starting to dominate wasn’t on my bingo card this weekend

[EstWRC]

What was that Thierry?

Go home then if you don’t like it

[meh]

Neuville: "It's not proper rallying, just flat out".

Dude... you are not very popular with that opinion in this part of the World. This is The Rallying!

[Tauri_J]

Munster is embarassing. So slow and close to crashing

[Tauri_J]

Nice time by Sesks and Joshua pretty good too

[linni]

Neuville: "It's not proper rallying, just flat out".

Dude... you are not very popular with that opinion in this part of the World. This is The Rallying!

Same old s*it. "I am afraid of high speeds" in translation.

[wwbroe]

Good time for Heikkila, 1.6 faster as Oliver

[TypeR]

Jwrc guy Jurgenson pretty fast with little Ford

[wwbroe]

Emil Lindholm fast again, -2.7 on Oliver

[denkimi]

Emil Lindholm fast again, -2.7 on Oliver
I assume the stage gets faster.

[wwbroe]

Same time for JML as Emil

[wwbroe]

Another blistering fast stage, 132 km/h average

[Rallyper]

And "stiff competition" that is!! From RallyTV.

[EstWRC]

Tänak 11.5 behind Kalle, seems it be less than 15 seconds for lunch

[240RS]

This event is super tight at the front. Around halfway through SS4 Myhinpaa, the eight Hyundais and Toyotas were split by 0.9 sec. . . Impressive!!

[denkimi]

This event is super tight at the front. Around halfway through SS4 Myhinpaa, the eight Hyundais and Toyotas were split by 0.9 sec. . . Impressive!!
Mainly because the stage has no corners, so no places to make a difference.

[Rallyper]

Live results at WRC.com are minutes late...

[Negaiss]

Very glad to see my countryman Sesks to perform OK, fastest Puma, no mistakes. But now I am even more sure, that Puma lacks power - looks like it simple is a little less powerful than other rally1. Pumas start from best positions, but are still all of the pace.

[EstWRC]

Nice times from Virves and Jurgenson again.

[TypeR]

Sesks basically first time in Finland(1x with rally4 years ago doesn't really count), so can't actually hope more from him..

[meh]

It will be interesting to see how WRC2 competition develops for the 2nd loop when Latvala and Lindholm will not have that "15 cars more clean road" advantage anymore.

[Doon]

The Puma is being a Rally 1.5 car again :(

[meh]

Boah. Entire 1st loop will be driven by national rally cars before 2nd loop, so for Tänak the 2nd loop stages will be even more messed up than just cleaning for the 1st loop.

Basically it is not realistic to expect any better times and improving road position for tomorrow.

National cars should drive there after 2nd loop or not drive at all...

[EstWRC]

Yep.

He has to look the gap with Ogier and Evans who are his main rivals. At the moment he isn’t far off from them and if he manages to be in front of them by the end of the day then it’s a really good day already

[wwbroe]

Ott not happy with this stage

[Rallyper]

Is it only me? Having locked live timing on wrc.com? Splits on one screen is mandatory but no finction. Locked after two stages this morning.

[wwbroe]

Very loose junctions, not good to open the stage

[EstWRC]

Massive loss for Tänak with such a short stage

Seems only the fords will be starting in front of him tomorrow if others don’t make mistakes

[wwbroe]

Kalle doesn't like Ruuhimaki so much, at least that is what he is saying

[meh]

Is it only me? Having locked live timing on wrc.com? Splits on one screen is mandatory but no finction. Locked after two stages this morning.

Oldschool maps is still useful for following:
https://webapps2.wrc.com/2020/web/live/live.html

for WRC2 interviews I use Finnish YLE RalliRadio, they stay on site when "All-Not-Live" crew has left:
https://yle.fi/a/74-20175184

[meh]

2 Stage wins for Pajari from the morning loop. A bit of a "Friday hero", but shows that at least in Finland he CAN drive.

[Rallyper]

Oldschool maps is still useful for following:
https://webapps2.wrc.com/2020/web/live/live.html

for WRC2 interviews I use Finnish YLE RalliRadio, they stay on site when "All-Not-Live" crew has left:
https://yle.fi/a/74-20175184

Thanks, but it´s not about maps (I know many stages so well) it´s about "Live Timing" and that page on WRC.com freezes from time to time this morning.

But you´re right about Ralli Radio on YLE Keski Suomi. It´s the right feeling. Toni Melville...

[jonkka]

But you´re right about Ralli Radio on YLE Keski Suomi. It´s the right feeling. Toni Melville...

I think it's Tony Melville, him being originally from UK.

[EstWRC]

Thanks, but it´s not about maps (I know many stages so well) it´s about "Live Timing" and that page on WRC.com freezes from time to time this morning.

But you´re right about Ralli Radio on YLE Keski Suomi. It´s the right feeling. Toni Melville...

You can watch also splits and times there not just maps. They come fast there

[meh]

Mistake from Solberg and seems that he lost 10 sec with that.

[Rallyper]

Very famous place where OLiver missed breaking. Many offs during the years...

[EstWRC]

I’m sorry but this talk from Solberg adjusting to rally2 machine is getting tiresome.

He is talking like he has been driving the whole season in rally1….

[Rallyper]

Thanks, but it´s not about maps (I know many stages so well) it´s about "Live Timing" and that page on WRC.com freezes from time to time this morning.

But you´re right about Ralli Radio on YLE Keski Suomi. It´s the right feeling. Toni Melville...

I´m missing the splits. They are essential and WRC.com doesn´t deliver. Not to my computer.

[TypeR]

Well.. it's just bad timing.. going to slower and no aero car between two really fast events.

+ he can talk that.. there are tens and tens of drivers who drive years and never win a wrc rally..

[meh]

Solberg's comments (including for YLE ralliradio) - he seems confident to just take all the time back, he doesn't see any big drama there.

[EstWRC]

I´m missing the splits. They are essential and WRC.com doesn´t deliver. Not to my computer.

Splits are also there!

[linni]

Thanks, but it´s not about maps (I know many stages so well) it´s about "Live Timing" and that page on WRC.com freezes from time to time this morning.


Open the Maps link and then click on the timer icon at the left bottom corner. Splits, stage times an overall are displayed then in a REAL time.

[meh]

So it is raining now.

Latvala got quite some rain and lost 4.5 sec to Virves. Now 0.2 sec behind Lindholm overall.

[wwbroe]

Yep, Emil in the lead now, Oliver fall from 3th to 7th

[Rallyper]

Open the Maps link and then click on the timer icon at the left bottom corner. Splits, stage times an overall are displayed then in a REAL time.

I´m not logged in. Just having Live timing results. Have had good function and I´m satisfied with that page. I know that one if you mean maps, and drivers page, when logged in. When I´m logged in just having RallyTV.

Or have I missed smth else?

[EstWRC]

I’m sorry but where you have to login there?

[linni]

I´m not logged in. Just having Live timing results. Have had good function and I´m satisfied with that page. I know that one if you mean maps, and drivers page, when logged in. When I´m logged in just having RallyTV.

Or have I missed smth else?

I think you missed a big time.
You do not have to be logged in.
https://webapps2.wrc.com/2020/web/live/live.html
Open the link, wait until the whole page loads.
A timer icon will appear in the left bottom corner (you maybe have to scroll down).
Click on it and thats it.

[meh]

I´m not logged in. Just having Live timing results. Have had good function and I´m satisfied with that page. I know that one if you mean maps, and drivers page, when logged in. When I´m logged in just having RallyTV.

Or have I missed smth else?

Just in case - there is a "stopper" icon bottom left corner, if you click that, a new "popup" opens and you can choose times between overview, stage and split times. You can see only times for one split at a time, but those are delivered fast.

edit: linni did better time :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

He commented yesterday that his PET was good and he may have found something to improve his speed here.

So Rovanpera leads after the morning loop. Maybe he did find an answer in his test. He looked to me to be driving more aggressively so that could be what works for him.

[Rallyper]

I think you missed a big time.
You do not have to be logged in.
https://webapps2.wrc.com/2020/web/live/live.html
Open the link, wait until the whole page loads.
A timer icon will appear in the left bottom corner (you maybe have to scroll down).
Click on it and thats it.

Ok.

I´m on this page:

https://www.wrc.com/en/events/wrc-secto-rally-finland-2025/wrc-secto-rally-finland-results-2025

[wwbroe]

Stage 6 is now live

[CeskyOndra]

Gonna be crazy afternoon

[linni]

Ok.

I´m on this page:

https://www.wrc.com/en/events/wrc-secto-rally-finland-2025/wrc-secto-rally-finland-results-2025

Yeah, this one is useless.
Why don`t you try the given link? Works just brilliantly.

[EstWRC]

No luck at for Tänak

National lines and now also clear water out of them for others…

[Tauri_J]

Ott is fucked. Ruts filled with water

[Eli]

Should make for an interesting final 5 rounds after this.

[CeskyOndra]

Should make for an interesting final 5 rounds after this.

Kalle very much in the game

[CeskyOndra]

This is tricky now

[CeskyOndra]

Rain will hit late runners on this one. Onwards from Kalle IMO...

[EstWRC]

This is drying up fast and late starters will be much faster

[Kras]

Ott is royally fucked here

[BlueStrike]

That‘s Tänak‘s ambitions for a decent road position done, probably. Unless someone bins it, of course.

[Kras]

I must say that stages so far are boring as hell. Watching this rally makes me sleepy

[Rallyper]

Yeah, this one is useless.
Why don`t you try the given link? Works just brilliantly.

i just did, and used it times ago. But it doesn´t give you oversight, same as the "useless"... :)

However seems to work ok, atm.

[Rallyper]

I must say that stages so far are boring as hell. Watching this rally makes me sleepy

Yeah. I love this rally, but it should need a makeover, radically for next year. I know Kai T has many issues to solve only for a couple of km:s new stages. Itisn´t easy, but smth have to be done. There are oc lots of stages used 5-10 yrs ago...

[wwbroe]

Sesks now only 0.7 sec behind Tanak overall

[jcevc]

Tanak little off in tree!

[wwbroe]

Ott went off

[BlueStrike]

Big oof. Looked way too fast for that chicane, no?

[wwbroe]

But restarted quite fast, hopefully not too much damage

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Seems ok no warnings on the dash.

[meh]

WRC2/SS6: Lindholm coming slow (in splits 30sec to Linnamäe), Linnamäe fastest so far and if Latvala comes also slow (raining again?) then Linnamäe to the lead.

Edit: Latvala and also Kauppinen are coming really fast.

[EstWRC]

Okay day done here. First one also tomorrow it’s seems

[meh]

Okay day done here. First one also tomorrow it’s seems

Others have not finished the stages yet as well.

[trykmann]

At least two M-Sport cars will be also ahead of Tänak tomorrow.

[EstWRC]

Wow Tänak even has taken a second back from
Evans in the middle of the stage

[BlueStrike]

Looks like Ott could have made up a fair chunk of time on Evans as well without that error..

[Rallyper]

Kalle flying again.

[EstWRC]

Is this the turning point in Kalles season?

[wwbroe]

Kalle flying again.
He really likes this stage

[jonkka]

He really likes this stage

But not the conditions.

[wwbroe]

But not the conditions.
Conditios are ok, but he says that the car isn't well set-up for the ruts and he nearly went off

[Eli]

Yeah. I love this rally, but it should need a makeover, radically for next year. I know Kai T has many issues to solve only for a couple of km:s new stages. Itisn´t easy, but smth have to be done. There are oc lots of stages used 5-10 yrs ago...
Should’ve put it in October, makes it extra special like we saw in 2021, once every say, 5-6 years should be in the Autumn.

[wwbroe]

Pajari's opening split faster then Kalle

[EstWRC]

I don’t know what was happened with Tänak and rally Finland after that amazing 2022 performance. For two years in a row retirements and today a mistake which also could have ended the rally.

[Rallyper]

Should’ve put it in October, makes it extra special like we saw in 2021, once every say, 5-6 years should be in the Autumn.

And back to Mökkiperä, Urria, Äänekoski, Oittila...

Personally I think Rally Finland is too fast today. So many safety risks increases with higher speed. Know it´s not easy to solve, but...

[jonkka]

Official wrc.com results are all frozen up, geez what crap their service is. Gladly other alternatives exist.

[focus206]

These things can decide titles. If nothing is broken on Tanak's car, then he can finish the day. Few cm of difference and it could have been Super rally and 0 points from the overall classification.

[wwbroe]

No second split for Oliver, just a glitch?

[wwbroe]

Apparently stopped in stage

[meh]

No second split for Oliver, just a glitch?

All-Live said that he is stopped.

[EstWRC]

Rally Estonia 1-2 drivers out of form so far here

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hero to zero ...

[wwbroe]

Apparently he rolled the Toy

[wwbroe]

JML with very good time on previous one, taking back the lead. Also Kauppinen very good.

[Rallyper]

Hero to zero ...

Yeah. Sh*t happens. The off was smth like Kalle last year. Lost the front and deep ditch.

[wwbroe]

Problem for Joona as well?

[Dontcut]

Problem for Joona as well?
Map shows stops 2 corners from finish

[wwbroe]

He lost over 2 minutes, flat tyre maybe?

[wwbroe]

Somebody know the reason of the time-loss for Emil Lindholm on previous stage?