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MYS
4th February 2025, 09:55
The route of Secto Rally Finland 2025 will be revealed this coming Wednesday 5.2. Any suggestions which stages would you like to see in itinerary?
Backa
4th February 2025, 11:06
The route of Secto Rally Finland 2025 will be revealed this coming Wednesday 5.2. Any suggestions which stages would you like to see in itinerary?
Ouninpohja, Paijala, Myhinpaa, Harju, Ruuhimaki as power stage. In terms of less obvious choices, I like Horkka from 2015-2016.
There is probably some reasoning behind this that I am unaware of but I am surprised Ouninpohja is used in 32km-34km version so rarely. I understand wanting to make some changes in itinerary every year but in last ten years, only 2015, 2016 and 2024 had it.
Same with Monte Carlo this year, it had 10 different stages and while they were generally good, a lot of most classic stages are left unused for many years.
Rallyper
4th February 2025, 18:00
There´s a lot of stages west of Laukka like Palsankylä and Valkola. Also I´d like Sirkkamäki (from 2010 I think) south of Konnevesi.
HarriK
5th February 2025, 10:47
https://sectorallyfinland.fi/en/route/
Wednesday 30.7.2025 19:00 Start ceremonies, Jyväskylä Harbour
Thursday 31.7.2025 09:01 Shakedown, Ruuhimäki
19:05 SS 1 Harju 1 (2,50 km)
19:40 Service A, Paviljonki (15 min)
Friday 1.8.2025 08:03 SS 2 Laukaa 1 (17,96 km)
09:03 SS 3 Saarikas 1 (15,8 km)
10:23 SS 4 Myhinpää 1 (14,60 km)
11:51 SS 5 Ruuhimäki 1 (7,76 km)
13:01 Service B Paviljonki (40 min)
14:44 SS 6 Laukaa 2 (17,96 km)
15:44 SS 7 Saarikas 2 (15,8 km)
17:04 SS 8 Myhinpää 2 (14,60 km)
18:35 SS 9 Ruuhimäki 2 (7,76 km)
19:30 SS 10 Harju 2 (2,50 km)
20:05 Service C, Paviljonki (45 min, flexi)
Saturday 2.8.2025 08:01 SS 11 Parkkola 1 (15,55 km)
09:42 SS 12 Västilä 1 (18,94 km)
10:36 SS 13 Päijälä 1 (20,19 km)
12:05 SS 14 Leustu 1 (16,39 km)
13:35 Service D, Paviljonki (40 min)
15:01 SS 15 Parkkola 2 (15,55 km)
16:42 SS 16 Västilä 2 (18,94 km)
17:36 SS 17 Päijälä 2 (20,19 km)
19:05 SS 18 Leustu 2 (16,39 km)
20:15 Service E Paviljonki (45 min, flexi)
Sunday / Ouninday 3.8.2025 10:35 SS 19 Ouninpohja 1 (23,98 km)
11:15 Regroup, Kakaristo (1 h 20 min)
13:15 SS 20 Ouninpohja 2 (Wolf Power Stage) (23,98 km)
14:15 Podium, Kakaristo
https://i0.wp.com/sectorallyfinland.fi/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/reitti-2025.png?resize=740%2C523&ssl=1
Vepe
5th February 2025, 11:24
Parkkola is 2003 version, but the start is from Road 607 like Surkee 2016.
Leustu is combination of end 2/3rds of Leustu 2012 with ending of Horkka 2016, running the Palolahdentie loop from Horkka in opposite direction.
Ouninpohja ends after Kakaristo junction.
Saarikas is reversed, with the start on the big road before last years start and ends after the Tänak crash corner. Small changes made to start of Myhinpää.
Harju isn't a loop anymore, but the lenght given doesn't match either the 90's or 10-20's version, so it remains to be seen.
Ruuhimäki SD wasn't covered, but I'd assume it's the same as last year.
TypeR
5th February 2025, 11:45
Nice 24kms of powerstage :D
....but 2 stages give 10 points
EstWRC
5th February 2025, 11:49
Wow Ouninpohja as power stage. Wonderful
rallyfiend
5th February 2025, 12:34
Nice 24kms of powerstage :D
....but 2 stages give 10 points
When it's this stage, I think we can get over it. That's a hell of a stage to be fighting for so many points on!
Fast Eddie WRC
5th February 2025, 15:23
Nice 24kms of powerstage :D
....but 2 stages give 10 points
If being fastest on any stage deserves it, it's Ouninpohja !
doubled1978
6th February 2025, 18:56
When it's this stage, I think we can get over it. That's a hell of a stage to be fighting for so many points on!
Yeah, I actually like the idea. Lot’s to win on two passes of that fabulous stage. Should be spectacular.
bearclaw
10th February 2025, 07:24
We are planning to visit Rally Finland after the beautiful autum edition in 2021 again. On our list is the infamous crest/bend section at the Päijälä stage near the end. Is it possible to get there via the finishline or is this road closed form the main road towards the finish?
In 2024 there was a map that several roads to this section were closed. Is the only way to walk from the Päijälä junction to the jumps?
Thanks for helping us out.
masa90
10th February 2025, 10:51
The rallymagazine will only became revealed later quite close to rally. But, it should be pretty much the same as it was in 2024. Päijälä is great stage for spectators. Hope you have a nice visit to Finland and enjoy.
satnav
20th March 2025, 19:43
Rally Guide 1 out today ;
https://sectorallyfinland.fi/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/SRF25-RG1_A4_FINAL_200325-1.pdf
flatout227
9th April 2025, 18:04
Hello guys.. Looking again to attend this rally.. But it is really difficult to find any accommodation with reasonable price. Do you have any that are not on airbnb on booking?
EstWRC
9th April 2025, 18:33
Just wait till its closer to the rally, the last two years we booked at the end of may or even later i think and got it with reasonable price, both time through AirBnb
Also depends what is reasonable of course
flatout227
9th April 2025, 18:52
Just wait till its closer to the rally, the last two years we booked at the end of may or even later i think and got it with reasonable price, both time through AirBnb
Also depends what is reasonable of course
Okay thanks.. 3 years ago I booked at start of may for really good price.. This year I thought to book earlier but prices and avaibility shocked me.
flat_right
1st July 2025, 07:40
So the entry list was closed yesterday and will be published on Friday. Then we will know how serious Ogier is with tile run in 2025
240RS
1st July 2025, 07:57
So the entry list was closed yesterday and will be published on Friday. Then we will know how serious Ogier is with tile run in 2025
Seb Ogier will most likely sit this one out. The motivation to compete is lower than it was last year.
First, Elfyn and Kalle are in strong championship positions especially now that the tricky gravel rounds are out of the way. Two, he has an obvious soft-spot for Ott Tanak, unlike the case last year with Neuville. Third, Toyota's manufacturers' lead is very healthy, and if that situation were to change in the next few events, there would be plenty of opportunities later on in the season to lend a hand.
flat_right
1st July 2025, 08:45
Seb Ogier will most likely sit this one out. The motivation to compete is lower than it was last year.
First, Elfyn and Kalle are in strong championship positions especially now that the tricky gravel rounds are out of the way. Two, he has an obvious soft-spot for Ott Tanak, unlike the case last year with Neuville. Third, Toyota's manufacturers' lead is very healthy, and if that situation were to change in the next few events, there would be plenty of opportunities later on in the season to lend a hand.
In my opinion, the motivation is even better this year. This year, the pace is truly there to compete with anyone so he feels that he can do it. Therefore I wouldn't bet on it.
But if Ogier sits out, Oliver probably will get his place. Latest I heard was that the decision about Oliver will be made just before the deadline. So if Seb decides to drive, I think Oliver sits out and vice versa.
WRCStan
1st July 2025, 09:21
Hardly. Seb won 8 titles in a row and then went part time through lack of motivation. Of course if he wanted to do full time he would win the 9th, 10th, 11th... But he chooses not to and is vocal enough about it. What's with all the 'he feels like he can do it this year'? It's the same every year because he's a cut above everyone else.
I'll bet on him not going to Finland but if he does it'll be a co-decision with Toyota and having nothing to do with a driver championship charge.
flat_right
1st July 2025, 09:45
Hardly? Guy was pushing for 9th last year, everybody saw that. Only his own mistakes took that away from him.
WRCStan
1st July 2025, 10:16
The turning up was for the manufacturers championship because they were flagging and he dropped a round in Poland he'd have made up for later on. A driver championship would've been a sideshow which, obviously, generates it's own chat.
focus206
1st July 2025, 10:32
Hardly. Seb won 8 titles in a row and then went part time through lack of motivation. Of course if he wanted to do full time he would win the 9th, 10th, 11th... But he chooses not to and is vocal enough about it. What's with all the 'he feels like he can do it this year'? It's the same every year because he's a cut above everyone else.
Ogier was absolutely desperate after his crash in CER. Was it because he didn't care about his 9th title? Or because he felt sorry for Toyota? Yeah, nobody believes that.
A driver who IS (not was) a cut above everyone else, wouldn't bin it 3 times in a row, losing a golden chance to the title. On Pirelli + hybrid car, Ogier wasn't going to win another title. This year with Hankook and hybridless is a different story. He's retired from being a full time driver, but if there is a good chance, he will try to get the 9th title.
Fast Eddie WRC
1st July 2025, 10:39
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/will-ogier-return-in-finland/
WRCStan
1st July 2025, 10:40
He's paid to do a job for Toyota, that's his motivation. I'm not saying he's faultless and after CER, one round to go, Toyota were behind Hyundai, he had failed them. This time last year before Finland, Toyota were behind Hyundai. This year they are 65 points ahead. Do Toyota need him in Finland this year? Elfyn and Kalle should have it covered. Let's find out Friday.
Fast Eddie WRC
1st July 2025, 10:44
Ogier suffered last year after time out of the car. This year he's going well and the best thing he can do for Toyota and himself is to go all-in and drive every round.
And with Tanak back on form, it's better for Toyota to have Ogier to fight him and help either Evans or himself to take the WDC.
focus206
1st July 2025, 10:56
He's paid to do a job for Toyota, that's his motivation.
I don't believe that he does it only for Toyota. Ogier loves to win, he was and still would be very reluctant to give up positions to Toyota teammates.
Why was he so desperate after the crash in CER? Two options: either he realized he's out of the driver championship fight because of his crash, or he was sad because he costed Toyota valuable points for the manufacturer title. I don't think many will pick option two.
EstWRC
1st July 2025, 12:39
Well Ogier won last year in Finland, of course a lot of it was to do with the main contenders crashing out but I remember that he actually had very good pace on the event.
TypeR
2nd July 2025, 07:37
Game on! Ogier goes to Finland!
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/ogier-to-contest-rally-finland/
rallyfiend
2nd July 2025, 07:59
Game on! Ogier goes to Finland!
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/ogier-to-contest-rally-finland/
I wonder if Solberg's entry for Estonia will be changed for a Big Boy car as a result of this?
BleAivano
2nd July 2025, 08:14
Oliver Solberg was suppoed to be at Höljes the upcoming weekend, but was told to report at Rally Finland.
It was speculated that it was instead of Ogier, but we now know that Ogier will drive in Finland, so what will Oliver be doing/driving in Finland?
https://worldrally.se/oliver-snabb-inkallad-till-finland/
Mackie
2nd July 2025, 08:29
M-Sport?
flat_right
2nd July 2025, 08:52
As expected, Ogier will drive in Finland. And my gut says after Estonia, Ogier will do rest of the championship as he smells blood (you heard it here first :D ). He is in a great form, Yaris and Hankook suit him well and why not go for a 9th.
deephouse
2nd July 2025, 08:56
Of course he will never admit it, but yeah, I think he is after that 9th title. He will just surprisingly enter every event from now on and at the end say that he didn't have other choice.
EstWRC
2nd July 2025, 09:03
My personal opinion is it all depends on Finland result. If he fails there then I think he isn’t going for the championship but if he succeeds then definitely
CeskyOndra
2nd July 2025, 10:18
I think Toyota just wants drivers title. And they don't believe in Evans and Rovanpera. Tanak is just looking better now and Ogier is the only one to beat him.
TypeR
2nd July 2025, 10:19
Good for rally fans also, who are going to watch in Finland :)
Sound like it's going to be mega fight!
CeskyOndra
2nd July 2025, 11:54
Good for rally fans also, who are going to watch in Finland :)
Sound like it's going to be mega fight!
Good for first time visiting Finland🥳
What Ogier is doing is really dishonest and i hope someone among the drivers will eventually call him out on it. He's competing for the title while hedging his reputation by pretending he isn't. He'll either win the title or he'll devalue someone elses title by pretending he wasn't even trying. It's such poor sportsmanship.
Being so afraid of being beaten is pretty damn pathetic
WRCStan
2nd July 2025, 13:25
What Ogier is doing is really dishonest and i hope someone among the drivers will eventually call him out on it. He's competing for the title while hedging his reputation by pretending he isn't. He'll either win the title or he'll devalue someone elses title by pretending he wasn't even trying. It's such poor sportsmanship.
Being so afraid of being beaten is pretty damn pathetic
Lol wtf. I was wrong about this rally but stand by my stance. If he wins Finland but doesn't go to Paraguay, what are you going to call him then? Unsportsmanlike because he's not showing up to the title fight he's definitely keen on?
CeskyOndra
2nd July 2025, 14:56
What Ogier is doing is really dishonest and i hope someone among the drivers will eventually call him out on it. He's competing for the title while hedging his reputation by pretending he isn't. He'll either win the title or he'll devalue someone elses title by pretending he wasn't even trying. It's such poor sportsmanship.
Being so afraid of being beaten is pretty damn pathetic
I can't disagree.
trykmann
2nd July 2025, 17:03
I don't know what is going on in Ogiers mind regarding the title chase, but we should look at this from another perspective. We can be mad about him not driving a full season or not retiring completely, but look at the current results from this season. He still is one of the best drivers out there and in the last rallies only Tänak was able to fight with him. Toyota as a team wants results and Ogier collects points for them, he hasn't been outscored by his teammates on a regular basis and there isn't line of faster drivers are waiting for this seat. Right now it is a privilege to still watch him compete and be the benchmark for other drivers.
Also I don't agree with Ogier messing up the drivers championship with his part-time season. He doesn't have a significant advantage anymore regarding his starting position and all the championship contenders just have to be faster than him to get good points from an event.
drive
2nd July 2025, 17:24
Right now it is a privilege to still watch him compete and be the benchmark for other drivers.
Also I don't agree with Ogier messing up the drivers championship with his part-time season. He doesn't have a significant advantage anymore regarding his starting position and all the championship contenders just have to be faster than him to get good points from an event.
Agree 100%
With Ogier in, it seems that Solberg not in rally1 as rumoured
Fast Eddie WRC
3rd July 2025, 08:47
With Ogier in, it seems that Solberg not in rally1 as rumoured
Estonia is his opportunity, he doesn't need Finland too.
Also Toyota still need Ogier based on recent results and the weaknesses of Rovanpera and Katsuta.
And on Ogier, he's an all-time great and more than earned the right to do whatever he likes.
AndersX
3rd July 2025, 09:24
Ok, just hear me out 😀, what if Ogier in fact wants to help his good friend Ott more than Elfyn? Every time Seb is driving, he is another high level competitor Elfy needs to beat. Just saying..😀
deephouse
3rd July 2025, 18:09
Ok, just hear me out , what if Ogier in fact wants to help his good friend Ott more than Elfyn? Every time Seb is driving, he is another high level competitor Elfy needs to beat. Just saying..
That's just stupid. I don't have nothing against Ogier, but he is showing again and again that he is selfish and wants to win no matter what (I actually disliked him during his dominance, but now I like it that he is here, because he isn't on the same level or just others did get better = more action, more competition, more excitment - and 2 way battle isn't fun to watch, but 5 guys fighting for the title, that's something)
Andre Oliveira
4th July 2025, 10:02
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GvAelq9XgAANS6O?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GvAelq-WgAAEpEz?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GvAelq7XUAAcF_s?format=jpg&name=large
satnav
8th July 2025, 08:22
Juha Kankkunen to drive Toyota’s new hydrogen rally car at Rally Finland
https://x.com/RallyJournal/status/1942505599297806751
satnav
8th July 2025, 08:31
Recce videos are now on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/@sectorallyfinland/videos
Fast Eddie WRC
8th July 2025, 10:22
Rally Journal reports Evans had good testing and is happy with the car for the coming fast gravel.
But they quote Tanak as finding it quite tough to get a good set-up.
https://rallyjournal.com/ott-tanak-reports-on-his-findings/
flat_right
9th July 2025, 07:00
Rally Journal reports Evans had good testing and is happy with the car for the coming fast gravel.
But they quote Tanak as finding it quite tough to get a good set-up.
https://rallyjournal.com/ott-tanak-reports-on-his-findings/
Which is totally understandable. Tänak talked about this after the South Estonian Rally. The "problem" is that this is the new-old Hyundai, and they don’t have a proper baseline setup for these fast gravel roads. Since Estonia and Finland are linked rallies, they needed to fix some settings for these two. The initial testing phase was simply about finding a baseline and general understanding where they are. From there, they began to build. So the testing in Finland, Estonia, and finally the rally itself was very important for the whole process. Now, Thierry and Adrien will also test some components, which will provide valuable feedback to the engineers. So what Tänak probably meant by calling this phase tough was that it was all very intense—they had so much to test and figure out in a short amount of time.
bearclaw
9th July 2025, 08:30
Regarding tickets, because my last rally findland is a few years back, is it still possible, like in the old NESTE rally days, to walk in buy tickets, maps and an official program directly in Jyväskylä or a nearby gas station? Or do we have to buy a ticket, maps and so on in advance, via the rally homepage. Thanks
ReRe
10th July 2025, 08:17
Regarding tickets, because my last rally findland is a few years back, is it still possible, like in the old NESTE rally days, to walk in buy tickets, maps and an official program directly in Jyväskylä or a nearby gas station? Or do we have to buy a ticket, maps and so on in advance, via the rally homepage. Thanks
In the last few years we always buy rally pass and program at the gas station St1 Mäntsälä. This is list of gas stations on instagram post from last year:
https://eu.zonerama.com/Link/Photo/546283268/13543887?secret=9mtw031ngXJBg81d9o5wVM2oI
Hope this year it stays the same.
satnav
10th July 2025, 17:49
Regarding tickets, because my last rally findland is a few years back, is it still possible, like in the old NESTE rally days, to walk in buy tickets, maps and an official program directly in Jyväskylä or a nearby gas station? Or do we have to buy a ticket, maps and so on in advance, via the rally homepage. Thanks
This is from the webpage there is a full list of stations there as well ; https://sectorallyfinland.fi/en/tickets-2025/
Physical Collector’s Edition Rally Passes will be available for purchase starting from July 14, 2025, at selected HelmiSimpukka stations across Finland for the 2025 Secto Rally Finland.
Please note that cultural vouchers (e.g., sports and culture benefits) are not accepted as a payment method at the stations.
satnav
15th July 2025, 12:42
The Programme for this year is now available online ;
https://nakoislehti.media.fi/keskisuomalainen/f6843bd2-01bd-4f78-b48b-8d35bead9603/1?lang=en
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