WRC Secto Rally Finland 2025

[Rallyper]

Fourmaux just went out from stage at Kakkaristo junctionen

[meh]

Wise from Hyundai to give at least 1 point to Tänak

Maybe it is more related to getting rid of some limitations what they can or can not do with the car?

[philippebugalski]

Looks like pretty strong drive by Thierry (141.9 km avg), I feel bad for Adrien - he was superb this weekend.
Rally is a cruel sport

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Awesome onboard from Ogier.

[meh]

Ogier announced the title fight

[Rallyper]

Ogier never gives up, doesn´t he?

[EstWRC]

And Ogier confirmed going for the title

[CeskyOndra]

Confirmed, Ogier for WDC.. I'm not afraid it wouldn't end differently than last year.

[jonkka]

Katsuta is going to pip Ogier on PS? Wow...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Taka on it too, wow.

[meh]

Whoo, Taka took the PS lead, whoa. 2nd place O/A. Well done!

[philippebugalski]

Seb with a statement - I am here and I will fight for the championship also see you in Paraguay :)
5 events to go it will be some hell of a title fight.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

This is more like it, great onboards and a mega battle between the Toyota's.

[Rallyper]

Those haybales are pushed aside more and more at chikanes, it seems...

[CeskyOndra]

Why Toyotas just don't have any puncture

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kalle is back ! What a time, what a win.

[meh]

Who is not entertained, should listen to YLE ralliradio :D

[TypeR]

Hands down, hats off.. massive attack from Kalle! FULL SEND!

CONGRATZ!!!

[meh]

A boring rally you say? :D

[Rallyper]

Well done Kalle. And well deserved!! Big congrats!!

[EstWRC]

Kalle is back ! What a time, what a win.

This was said also after Canaria and we know how it went after that.

But I’m very happy he finally got the win, should have got it also last year

[meh]

Provisional standings:
1 Evans 176
2 Rovanperä 173
3 Ogier 163
4 Tänak 163
5 Neuville 125

[philippebugalski]

Why Toyotas just don't have any puncture

I guess the car is far more gentle on the tires, also could it be the setup?
It's just odd that all 3 Hyundais were matching the Toyota's pace and all 3 got multiple punctures on this type of rally, shame it killed a great rally and great fight.
Congrats to Kalle, amazing just amazing!

[Morte66]

It's a better result than I feared for Evans at the end of day one. I'd have taken fourth (from second on the road, with Ogier entered) if you offered it to me before the start.

He beat Neuville and Fourmaux, which is what I really want for this season.

And 3 seconds behind Ogier whilst cleaning for him is very respectable. You might (or might not) say Evans did better of the two.

Also good rally for Katsuta on the quiet.

But Rovanpera... oh boy.

[Rallyper]

"Fairy tale finish" of the rally, they said. Agree.

[meh]

All Hyundai and all Toyota drivers got a stage win, 8 different stage winners.

[KKS]

What a great rally!

[Rallyper]

Oliver fastest on PS by 2,8 secs to Lindholm.

[EstWRC]

Provisional standings:
1 Evans 176
2 Rovanperä 173
3 Ogier 163
4 Tänak 163
5 Neuville 125

so Ogier and Tänak starting from zero after Ogier announced he will go for the title.

for me those two are the favourites, they have been the class so far this season up to rally finland, yeah they werent here but thats just one event.

remains to be seen if this was a one off from Kalle again like with Canary or he really found something.

Evans will open the road again now and his speed overall hasnt been so good on gravel except finland, his results so far on gravel events have been 6-7, and if you actually put Neuville and Fourmaux in front without punctures then he would have been 6-7 again.

anyway, will be interesting the next two rallies where we will get a lot of answers.

[meh]

I would not count Evans and Rovanperä off anyway - they both are strong, especially Rovanperä. Every rally is new from setup-wise to work with Hankook, and we never know who figures it out fastest. We should remember what kind of domination in the Canary.

[PLuto]

5 minute penalty for engine change is for changing the engine after shakedown and before the rally starts. You can't change the engine after TC0.

I don't think that 5 minutes is too much for driving off while a technical official is inspecting the car - it's less than the penalty for not stopping at a time control.

That is not true. 5 min penalty for changing the engine after scrutineering is gone. Rally1 cars also can change engine during the rally without penalty...

[PLuto]

What’s the point of those team radios at the end of the stages?

Where’s that super command Centre that Adamo promised for fans?

Pathetic

This command centre was nonsense from beginning...

[Tauri_J]

Wise from Hyundai to give at least 1 point to Tänak

I’m confused now

[meh]

I’m confused now

Fourmaux retired instead of finishing, Tänak got 10th place overall - 1 point.

Just checked times - even if Tänak could not have a puncture on powerstage, he could be out of powerstage points and it was clear after 1st run, that he is out of Sunday points.

[philippebugalski]

I expect Hyundai to put a big fight in Paraguay, 3 cars all with greater start positions compared to rivals plus the car has a performance in that type of terrain.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@ElfynEvans

Today started really well but the 2nd pass of the Power Stage didn’t go as well. That was disappointing as it means a big points swing.

[EstWRC]

I would not count Evans and Rovanperä off anyway - they both are strong, especially Rovanperä. Every rally is new from setup-wise to work with Hankook, and we never know who figures it out fastest. We should remember what kind of domination in the Canary.

Like I said my fellow countryman, next rallies will give us answers.

So far Evans and Kalle have struggled until Finland on gravel events.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

This one was extra special...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GxbMfTxXwAAgUal?format=jpg&name=medium

[focus206]

Good job by Kalle, finally he got the Finland win. Key of the championship to me is if he found something on gravel with Hankook and how fast he'll be in South America.
Not surprised to hear Ogier going for the title, didn't believe for a second that he doesn't care for the 9th title, as we saw last year.
Shame for Neuville, it could have been his best Rally Finland, but Hankook tyres just don't want him to do good.
We saw way more punctures for Hyundai than for Toyota. Could it be something related to set up or to the car itself, that can make it more Hankook puncture prone?

[meh]

We saw way more punctures for Hyundai than for Toyota. Could it be something related to set up or to the car itself, that can make it more Hankook puncture prone?

2 punctures in the same corner for Neuville and Fourmaux I would say was just unlucky and there is a clear cause for that - I can not see it to be related to the setup.

Today's punctures for Tänak and Fourmaux are something to investigate, Munster got a puncture as well.

[focus206]

2 punctures in the same corner for Neuville and Fourmaux I would say was just unlucky and there is a clear cause for that - I can not see it to be related to the setup.


I don't know how clear the cause is, Fourmaux said there was nothing, Neuville said it could have been a stone on the line but didn't even feel any impact. Kalle said he was surprised that the 2 Hyundai got punctures, because he saw nothing that could cause one on the stage.

[EstWRC]

It can be all down to setup, tyre pressure and etc

In case of Tänak the Estonian commentators had a good point that the speeds went so crazy on second pass of ouninpohja that it could have been too much to handle for the tyre. Plus all the landings from the crests on one side of the car and other side of the car in the wheels

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It could be sheer bad luck. But if not there may be serious questions to answer for Hankook for the first time this season.

Durability has been their strength so the punctures (rather than the tyre coming off the rim) are a surprise on smooth roads. Delamination is also unacceptable on the second stage of a day.

[spyros]

I don't see Kalles father at the finish.

[doubled1978]

Strange rally in some ways, many guys drove very well and didn’t get what they deserved.
Rovanpera was great, found the gravel speed and showed us his normal self, pleased he finally got his Finland win.
Katsuta, good job, fast and no errors.
Ogier is Ogier. He’s still fast and relentless.
Evans, excellent performance. Looked like he enjoyed it as well.
Pajari, a bit underwhelming although he set a few scratch times. Might be harsh as he looks like he is driving under instruction.
Neuville, great drive, bad luck.
Fourmaux, great drive, bad luck.
Tanak, road position put him under pressure and then he crashed. I’m sure some of his stages were good even if the times don’t show it, but not his best performance.
Sesks, pretty good considering his lack of experience here and super unlucky with the windscreen.
McErlean, pretty solid. I think he’s showed us already he has a higher potential than Munster
Munster, nice guy, but just not quick enough at this level.

[TypeR]

Lol


The Driver of Car No. 17 usedinappropriate language during the post event “Meet the Crews” session at podium.
Decision: To impose a warning on the Driver SÉBASTIEN OGIER.

Reason: ....... in which he stated:
“remembering one year ago the shit feeling all we had.”

[EstWRC]

Should have got 5 minutes at least

[Humber]

Wheel rims are another area Hyundai could be looking at.

[satnav]

Just looking at some photos i've taken and i mentioned it to a photographer at Myhinpa on Friday, i think although i don't know for sure , i reckon they are runing very low tyre pressures due to the Hankooks being so hard. But then sure it's always the tyres fault " I didn't hit anything" is what they always say .......

[satnav]

I don't see Kalles father at the finish.

Harri was at the finish, i seen him

[satnav]

Strange rally in some ways, many guys drove very well and didn’t get what they deserved.
Rovanpera was great, found the gravel speed and showed us his normal self, pleased he finally got his Finland win.
Katsuta, good job, fast and no errors.
Ogier is Ogier. He’s still fast and relentless.
Evans, excellent performance. Looked like he enjoyed it as well.
Pajari, a bit underwhelming although he set a few scratch times. Might be harsh as he looks like he is driving under instruction.
Neuville, great drive, bad luck.
Fourmaux, great drive, bad luck.
Tanak, road position put him under pressure and then he crashed. I’m sure some of his stages were good even if the times don’t show it, but not his best performance.
Sesks, pretty good considering his lack of experience here and super unlucky with the windscreen.
McErlean, pretty solid. I think he’s showed us already he has a higher potential than Munster
Munster, nice guy, but just not quick enough at this level.

Your first sentence is so true of many rallies, as we always say " Thats Rallying"

[satnav]

This command centre was nonsense from beginning...

I had both Toyota and Hyundai radios on my radio all weekend and was listening, i have been for the past 30 odd years and not much has changed, if anything major is happening they go to their phones. The only thing i heard this weekend was Scott on the radio after Vastilla about a corner just after the start with a large stone, other than that just stage start times and finish times ........

[Steve Boyd]

Rally1 cars also can change engine during the rally without penalty...OK - the 5 minutes has gone, but you're only allowed two engines for the whole season.

Article 16.1 only allows an engine change before TC0.
Art. 16.1.3 says you can't change the engine after the start of the competition.

[Steve Boyd]

I guess the car is far more gentle on the tires, also could it be the setup?
It's just odd that all 3 Hyundais were matching the Toyota's pace and all 3 got multiple punctures on this type of rally, shame it killed a great rally and great fight.
Congrats to Kalle, amazing just amazing!I wonder if Toyota run a different tyre pressure to the other teams. Lower pressure could leave the tyre more likely to be knocked off the rim bead and could increase the chance of overheating at high speeds.

[EstWRC]

Just looking at some photos i've taken and i mentioned it to a photographer at Myhinpa on Friday, i think although i don't know for sure , i reckon they are runing very low tyre pressures due to the Hankooks being so hard. But then sure it's always the tyres fault " I didn't hit anything" is what they always say .......

yep, this is what the two estonian commentators (both are rally drivers) also have been saying, they go too low with the tyre pressures to get more grip out of it.

but the Tänaks case deifnitely has to be investigated, i mean its dangerous if it deliminates at such a speed and place.

But like i said, Hankook doesnt have experience with such a speeds and loads so far. (average speeds over 130km/h). im sure they got a lot of experience from estonia and finland for next year.

[PLuto]

OK - the 5 minutes has gone, but you're only allowed two engines for the whole season.

Article 16.1 only allows an engine change before TC0.
Art. 16.1.3 says you can't change the engine after the start of the competition.

But article 17.1.3 allows Rally1 cars to change engine betweenpre-rally scrutineering and the end of the rally. Without any penalty...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

yep, this is what the two estonian commentators (both are rally drivers) also have been saying, they go too low with the tyre pressures to get more grip out of it.

but the Tänaks case deifnitely has to be investigated, i mean its dangerous if it deliminates at such a speed and place.

But like i said, Hankook doesnt have experience with such a speeds and loads so far. (average speeds over 130km/h). im sure they got a lot of experience from estonia and finland for next year.

I heard on WRC+ several times that there is a minimum tyre pressure teams have to adhere to. And surely Hankook wouldn't advise this pressure on a high speed event.

Also with the Neuville and Fourmaux punctures, Tanak said it was some bedrock which he went over sideways. Maybe the others hit it full on.

[Steve Boyd]

But article 17.1.3 allows Rally1 cars to change engine betweenpre-rally scrutineering and the end of the rally. Without any penalty...Interesting.
It only applies to cars scoring manufacturer points, so if you keep changing the drivers nominated for points you get more engines to use. Toyota seem to be doing this but Hyundai don't!

[satnav]

"Fairy tale finish" of the rally, they said. Agree.

I tried to send you a Message Per but the message board is down again .......

[samzon100]

Secto Rally Finland 31.07-03.08.2025
Shakedown, SS5, SS14 ja SS19

https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Secto+Rally+Finland+08.25/

[tbazsi95]

Richard Hammond FULL ONBOARD �� WRC Rally Finland 2025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-yctjh_Y2s

[tbazsi95]

Audi Quattro Rally Finland ONBOARD | Harju Stage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT__JjETvA0

[ReRe]

My gallery from Rally Finland 2025:
https://eu.zonerama.com/TomasR/Album/13678633

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great attendance and viewing figures for Rally Finland. The Power Stage got 56% of the market share on Finnish television !

https://www.wrc.com/en/news/wrc-produces-unprecedented-domestic-coverage-in-finland

[AndyRAC]

Great attendance and viewing figures for Rally Finland. The Power Stage got 56% of the market share on Finnish television !

https://www.wrc.com/en/news/wrc-produces-unprecedented-domestic-coverage-in-finland

Which is a poor example in all honesty, and typical of sports which are struggling. What about the rest of the world? It's the same in Cyclocross, with Belgian TV recording record figures during the World champs weekend.....All too insular and ignoring the rest of the world.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Did this event set a new standard for Super Sundays in the World Rally Championship ? Most drivers were happy with it except Elfyn Evans:

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/the-verdict-on-finlands-ouninpohja-experiment/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR4itA2pUMHc9Cq6oEp78_af mAeUpPZVGjPFrM5OEqdhLqaWcvhYuwkqWtK4lA_aem_Bp6iFO1 cD9MVAINOeTpy8Q

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Which is a poor example in all honesty, and typical of sports which are struggling. What about the rest of the world? It's the same in Cyclocross, with Belgian TV recording record figures during the World champs weekend.....All too insular and ignoring the rest of the world.

It proves free-to-air is the way to get WRC seen and watched, even if just the Power Stage.

[TypeR]

Not to forget that most of the views are thanks to Kalle going for his first win..
If he was on any other place, the numbers would have been different..

But numbers are numbers and if they are good for organising next year's event and bring new fans, then all good!

[saco0o]

Did this event set a new standard for Super Sundays in the World Rally Championship ? Most drivers were happy with it except Elfyn Evans:

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/the-verdict-on-finlands-ouninpohja-experiment/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR4itA2pUMHc9Cq6oEp78_af mAeUpPZVGjPFrM5OEqdhLqaWcvhYuwkqWtK4lA_aem_Bp6iFO1 cD9MVAINOeTpy8Q

tbf, FIA itself and big event promoters are losing the opportunity of creating a "world rally sprint championship" doing something like that. one stage, everybody (fans) on the same place to watch. but make it 4 runs, two in each direction. sum up the times and thats it.
add a gymkahana style (with eliminations) competition on saturday night, under the lights, in the middle of the city to determine the road position for sunday.
i dont see how a world rally sprint series would not help to bring new eyes into the wrc. not all of them, for sure, but some would, no doubt on that

[Krigen]

Which is a poor example in all honesty, and typical of sports which are struggling. What about the rest of the world? It's the same in Cyclocross, with Belgian TV recording record figures during the World champs weekend.....All too insular and ignoring the rest of the world.

True. Finland is very special country when it comes to rally. Rally already religion there

[focus206]

tbf, FIA itself and big event promoters are losing the opportunity of creating a "world rally sprint championship" doing something like that. one stage, everybody (fans) on the same place to watch. but make it 4 runs, two in each direction. sum up the times and thats it.
add a gymkahana style (with eliminations) competition on saturday night, under the lights, in the middle of the city to determine the road position for sunday.
i dont see how a world rally sprint series would not help to bring new eyes into the wrc. not all of them, for sure, but some would, no doubt on that

Nobody is going to travel the world to do one stage repeated 4 times. Rallysprints work at national levels. You'd be very lucky if a concept like that works on a European level, no chance for the world.

[EstWRC]

One of the worst ideas I have read here on the forum

[Rallyper]

I tried to send you a Message Per but the message board is down again .......

Yeah. Saw it today. Been away for a week. And, no, me neither could reach it. I try to read later .

[satnav]

Here's a link to some of my photos from this years event ;

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?vanity=61551265594281&set=a.122210679308042186

[Rallyper]

Here's a link to some of my photos from this years event ;

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?vanity=61551265594281&set=a.122210679308042186

Btw. Did you meet up with Sam?

[Rallyper]

Here's a link to some of my photos from this years event ;

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?vanity=61551265594281&set=a.122210679308042186

Btw. Did you meet up with Sam?

[MTA]

Fantastic rally as usual but some things could be done better.

The schedule is not reasonable with such a long time between stages second loop. Why not do as in the Royal Rally of Scandinavia where you drive 2 stages x2 and then move on to the next 2 and so on?

I'm also not a fan of just 1 stage x2 on Sunday when everyone gathers in the same place.

Rather shorter stages but several.

Our pictures from the rally:
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1GCoZagb3Z/


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