WRC Secto Rally Finland 2025

[meh]

Seems that at the end of SS7 it is raining again, Lindholm struggled, so JML will get a second shower and will be pissed off like in the old good days.

[htr]

Somebody know the reason of the time-loss for Emil Lindholm on previous stage?
info ewrc
Lindholm E. - Hämäläinen R.
Rear damage

[wwbroe]

info ewrc
Lindholm E. - Hämäläinen R.
Rear damage

Thanks

[wwbroe]

JML loosing quite a bit of time in there, also Kauppinen lost a lot in the beginning of the stage

[meh]

I don't speak Finnish but as much I understood, maybe JML had puncture additionally for rain. Maybe some Finns can confirm that.

[trykmann]

JML loosing quite a bit of time in there, also Kauppinen lost a lot in the beginning of the stage

Local guys probably not liking the current situation, where two Estonians are leading rally2.

[Rallyper]

Why didn´t Tanak fix his bonnet locking? Now he can be repeating a historical Timo Mäkinen BMC drive ...

[trykmann]

Why didn´t Tanak fix his bonnet locking? Now he can be repeating a Timo Mäkinen BMC drive ...

I was thinking the same. Seems to be optimistic to count only on one lock.

[wwbroe]

Why didn´t Tanak fix his bonnet locking? Now he can be repeating a Timo Mäkinen BMC drive ...
Maybe he couldn't fix it, some support broken?

[denkimi]

It's kinda sad latvala starts so far back. Hard to compare times like that.

[wwbroe]

Ott loosing quite a lot on splits

[wwbroe]

It's kinda sad latvala starts so far back. Hard to compare times like that.
It was an advantage in first loop, handicap in second loop?

[meh]

Provisional points after SS7:
* 1. Evans 169
* 2. Tänak 166
* 3. Rovanperä 163
* 4. Ogier 147
* 5. Neuville 129

[Rallyper]

Bonnet was smallest issue, according to Tanak at finish.

[wwbroe]

Tanak with some mechanical issue

[trykmann]

Tanak with some mechanical issue

The engine dind't sound good at all.

[Dontcut]

Tänak's engine is bottom endy. Should retire and save engine for Sunday.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Why didn´t Tanak fix his bonnet locking? Now he can be repeating a historical Timo Mäkinen BMC drive ...

I'm amazed they didnt have some tape to hold it down.

But seems the engine is a bigger problem.

[EstWRC]

Overheating I guess

[linni]

Maybe he couldn't fix it, some support broken?

Yes, you could see it at the stage end, carbon support snipped.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Info on Oliver Solberg crash from DF...

His car bottomed out and sent him wide into a bank, flipping his car over on its nose and forcing him to retire.

[wwbroe]

Fourmaux is doing very well, same time as Kalle

[focus206]

Speed wise, Fourmaux adapted very well to the Hyundai. He needs consistency now

[Rallyper]

This stage (Myhinpää) has no corners, said Kalle at finish.

I remember 2015, I brought an old friend of mine to Finland. He also was a rallyguy and we have had a lot of fun during the years since my drivers license age. That is early 70´s.

On Wednesday before rally we did recce on Myhinpää, which should be driven opposite way than this year. Driving out on the stage in cruising mode, his eyes was kind of standing out. He couldn´t believe this was a stage! The road was (is) so wide, maybe like 9-11 meters in some places. It´s like national tarmac ordinary traffic roads in Sweden. But I told him, "yes, this IS the stage".

So in a way one should understand Kalle, when he says there´s no corners.

We had a great rally as spectators, and he was very impressed. We also had access to Ford team, and met many drivers personally that time.

My friend died this winter in cancer, in age of 75.

[wwbroe]

This stage (Myhinpää) has no corners, said Kalle at finish.

I remember 2015, I brought an old friend of mine to Finland. He also was a rallyguy and we have had a lot of fun during the years since my drivers license age. That is early 70´s.

On Wednesday before rally we did recce on Myhinpää, which should be driven opposite way than this year. Driving out on the stage in cruising mode, his eyes was kind of standing out. He couldn´t believe this was a stage! The road was (is) so wide, maybe like 9-11 meters in some places. It´s like national tarmac ordinary traffic roads in Sweden. But I told him, "yes, this IS the stage".

So in a way one should understand Kalle, when he says there´s no corners.

We had a great rally as spectators, and he was very impressed. We also had access to Ford team, and met many drivers personally that time.

My friend died this winter in cancer, in age of 75.

Sorry to hear that, may he rest in peace

[wwbroe]

Korhonen passed Virves in overall classification after this stage, let's see what Linnemae can do

[EstWRC]

As I understand it’s quite sure it will rain tomorrow?

[meh]

WRC2/SS8 - quite tight overall:
* 1. Korhonen
* 2. Virves +0.5
* 3. Linnamäe +0.8

[wwbroe]

Tanak started stage 9, second run trough Ruuhimaki

[wwbroe]

A lot of standing water in the ruts

[wwbroe]

Now Ott put some ductape on the bonnet to hold it closed

[drive]

anyone noticed Munster fraze "stage is fast as ffffffFourmox" - find it funny :)

[EstWRC]

Question is now if Tänak holds off Munster or not

[meh]

Now Ott put some ductape on the bonnet to hold it closed

The car seems like a pirate.

[wwbroe]

Question is now if Tänak holds off Munster or not

I guess so, not loosing too much on Evans

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Love watching this stage and hearing the cars on the limiter over the jumps (with pure sounds & no comms). Bliss.

[wwbroe]

Same time for Kalle and Ogier

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fourmaux and Katsuta not faster after all.

[trykmann]

Are the starting positions decided after this stage?

[EstWRC]

Are the starting positions decided after this stage?

Yep

[wwbroe]

Neuville had quite a good day

[meh]

McErlean earned the starting position before Tänak for tomorrow.

Edit: vice-versa.

[jonkka]

Neuville had quite a good day

Especially bearing in mind that first day is usually more or less disaster for him.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Wet muddy fast gravel, so nice for a change. Giving much-missed Rallly GB vibes.

[wwbroe]

McErlean earned the starting position before Tänak for tomorrow.

I think Ott will start in front of him?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Solberg aftermath & interview...

https://x.com/DirtFishRally/status/1951305891887583603

[meh]

I think Ott will start in front of him?

Correct.

[meh]

I think Virves is happy to not lead the WRC2 after this stage do not start right after Rally1 cars tomorrow.

[EstWRC]

Great day from Estonians apart from Tänak (ok he was unlucky with the rain and position ) but the driving mistake was stupid of him

[meh]

For a taste of conditions. Tänak on Harju stage:
* 2:04.0 yesterday
* 2:08.9 today

[EstWRC]

Driver of the day has been Neuville for me

Yeah he has been on podium the last two years but that because the fast guys had crashed but today he is where he is purely on pace.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Are the starting positions decided after this stage?

They were decided after the last proper stage. But even if it was after the Harju SSS, Tanak would still start tomorrow before McErlean.

[meh]

Driver of the day has been Neuville for me

Yeah he has been on podium the last two years but that because the fast guys had crashed but today he is where he is purely on pace.

I would say that last two years, the podium position has been more gifted due to the mistakes by others, this time it is earned by own driving.

[Rallyper]

I would say that last two years, the podium position has been more gifted due to the mistakes by others, this time it is earned by own driving.

So far, yes. And Thierry has been on podium for several years...

[EstWRC]

Interesting comment from Tänak to Estonian media that the conditions weren’t actually that bad but it’s the old problem that the car isn’t so good in these kind of conditions and says particularly his driving style doesn’t work with the car in these kind of conditions

And they damaged the cooling and had to take care of it

[CeskyOndra]

Raining a lot for a while now. Also forecast is promissing a looot of rain

[Fast Eddie WRC]

And they damaged the cooling and had to take care of it

But the engine was ok and there was no loss of power.

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GxTMPh1WUAAbitl?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GxTMPh6XQAAs6oc?format=jpg&name=medium

[flat_right]

just nice. What else?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Wow, that's pretty bad.

[CeskyOndra]

Championship over for Tanak. No words.

[Steve Boyd]

Championship over for Tanak. No words.Not necessarily. The points deduction is supended & will not happen if Ott does not break Articles 12.2.1.h, 12.2.1.i and 12.2.1.l of the 2025 FIA International
Sporting Code again before the end of this year.

[CeskyOndra]

Not necessarily. The points deduction is supended & will not happen if Ott does not break Articles 12.2.1.h, 12.2.1.i and 12.2.1.l of the 2025 FIA International
Sporting Code again before the end of this year.

Really? That would be good! So just rally is over

[TypeR]

Can it be any more clear that it's made up penalty?
Stewards had too many longeros in sauna and somebody came to that idea in the middle of the night?

Had it been Ogier and Kaj Lindström, they would have given the marshal a gazoo cap with a cookie and 50 eur suspended fine..

He didn't rush away at the end of that stage.. the car was damaged and maybe stay away from it if one can't do his job safely..

Rules change - Driver and co-driver must now come out of the car after every stage and get a signed paper that everybody is far from the car.

E: re-watched his stage end and.. wrc official cameraman or what else and a yellow vested marshal were filming Tanaks damaged car when the car was driving awsy. Nobody was screaming or anything.

[EstWRC]

Third year in a row 0 points from Finland where it’s been crucial for him to get the points. This can cost the title AGAIN

I have no words.

[Dontcut]

Seems likely. If Tänak cannot improve road position due to other drivers offs then with that road position is sunday also 0p.

[EstWRC]

Is there a video somewhere of this? Really would
Like to see it

[archie106]

Can it be any more clear that it's made up penalty?
Stewards had too many longeros in sauna and somebody came to that idea in the middle of the night?

Had it been Ogier and Kaj Lindström, they would have given the marshal a gazoo cap with a cookie and 50 eur suspended fine..

He didn't rush away at the end of that stage.. the car was damaged and maybe stay away from it if one can't do his job safely..

Rules change - Driver and co-driver must now come out of the car after every stage and get a signed paper that everybody is far from the car.

E: re-watched his stage end and.. wrc official cameraman or what else and a yellow vested marshal were filming Tanaks damaged car when the car was driving awsy. Nobody was screaming or anything.

Made up penalty?

Ott hit an official - aggressive driving is for the stage, not the stop control/road section.

This kind of behaviour has to be penalised heavily as otherwise it becomes normalised.

Any other driver would be penalised in the same way for the same behaviour.

[KKS]

5min as engine change penalty for that kind situation is too much. Did Tanak have other offences with Finland marshals before?

[EstWRC]

As long as we don’t see a video how it rally happened then it’s all speculation

I personally think it’s just a bad moment, like Ott said he didn’t see the Marshall there and that right corner was damaged with sharp objects there and scratched the marshall or smth

[linni]

Made up penalty?

Ott hit an official - aggressive driving is for the stage, not the stop control/road section.

This kind of behaviour has to be penalised heavily as otherwise it becomes normalised.

Any other driver would be penalised in the same way for the same behaviour.

From Estonian press: one tyre person stepped off the car, Ott thought thats it, but another tyre controller just stepped in and got hit. Seems pretty mess, cannot blame Ott here but popintless behaviour of officials.

[linni]

5min as engine change penalty for that kind situation is too much. Did Tanak have other offences with Finland marshals before?

Finns just "love" Ott. They tend to beat him up in press in every occasion.

[EstWRC]

5min as engine change penalty for that kind situation is too much. Did Tanak have other offences with Finland marshals before?

Agree.

I agree there should be a penalty but a fine or something like that not a penalty that messes up the result for the driver which seems an unlucky moment from Tänak and the marshal. It wasn’t like he did it on purpose

[wwbroe]

Pretty good time for Ott, considering the situation

[EstWRC]

These stages could have been yesterday….

[BlueStrike]

Tänak potentially walking away from Rally Finland with zero points three years in a row after delivering arguably the greatest single-rally performance of all time at this event is genuinely incredible stuff.

Fitting metaphor for his post-2019 career as well.

[wwbroe]

Time differences bigger on this stage

[wwbroe]

Taka not happy with the car

[EstWRC]

This stage already shows how much Tänak suffered yesterday with cleaning in the morning and cleaning the ruts in the evening

The stages today are of course with different profile and with hard base compared to yesterday

[linni]

Tänak potentially walking away from Rally Finland with zero points three years in a row after delivering arguably the greatest single-rally performance of all time at this event is genuinely incredible stuff.

Fitting metaphor for his post-2019 career as well.

Too soon to bury him. So far second stage time.

Edit, fifth time probably, but still.

[KKS]

As long as we don’t see a video how it rally happened then it’s all speculation

I personally think it’s just a bad moment, like Ott said he didn’t see the Marshall there and that right corner was damaged with sharp objects there and scratched the marshall or smth
Hyundai should post something, cuz if it by 1% not that how it sum up at steward decision - it should be cleared. As they wrote its nearly terroristic behaviour by Tanak.

[wwbroe]

Besttime for Kalle, extending his lead to Thierry

[Eli]

On an unrelated note, the cars look so much better without that stupid banner on their windscreen.

[Sulland]

Was both crewmembers ok after this crash?

https://www.ewrc-results.com/quickp/90024_2667463198904119_n.jpg

https://www.motorsportforums.com/blob:https://www.motorsportforums.com/c2d9d0a9-8618-468c-be2c-534ac4478f62

[Rallyper]

Can´t see link.

[Sulland]

Can´t see link.

pls refresh page, the link should be there now.
It is a Renault Rally3 car that smashed into a tree by the looks of it, on SS3. Looks like a ugly one.

[Rallyper]

pls refresh page, the link should be there now.
It is a Renault Rally3 car that smashed into a tree by the looks of it, on SS3. Looks like a ugly one.

Nasty. Really.

[Dontcut]

Ott doesn't take helmet off at stage ends. Just a minor notice.
Pace is good tbh.

[EstWRC]

Josh happy to follow Tänaks lines. Nice change for him to learn proper lines

[Eli]

Shame about the whole Tänak penalty, probably could’ve climbed a few places today, also shame he doesn’t have Rallye Deutschland/Ypres to bounce back after this.

[TypeR]

Evans newborn after Tanaks problems :D

[EstWRC]

Yeah Evans finally showing some good speed first time in gravel events this year

[Morte66]

Are we expecting rain for the rest of the weekend? If we are, I might watch and see if Evans can catch anybody.

[EstWRC]

Are we expecting rain for the rest of the weekend? If we are, I might watch and see if Evans can catch anybody.

It should have been raining more already now actually but the forecast is it will rain the whole day.

[wwbroe]

Pajari hit a bird?

[jonkka]

Yaris killed a varis (crow).

[EstWRC]

Who is the commentator at the end of this stage?

Really awkward questions

[archie106]

Brynildsen at stage end

[Eli]

Who is the commentator at the end of this stage?

Really awkward questions
Eyvind Brynildsen

[jcevc]

Hyundai has few km/h higher final speed than Toyota and Ford (based on graphic on Rally.tv) and both Fourmaux and Neuville were faster than Evans in last sector which is more or less flat.

[Rallyper]

Solberg loses time on Västilä. Raining?

Edit: Wipers no function.

[jonkka]

Solberg loses time on Päijälä. Raining?

Solberg? Päijälä?

[Rallyper]

Solberg? Päijälä?

Västilä. My bad.

[meh]

Taka on attack mode? Statistically those are not ending well.

[birdbat]

Taka on attack mode? Statistically those are not ending well.

Don't worry, it won't be long, he's not capable of keeping up with this pace.

[meh]

Don't worry, it won't be long, he's not capable of keeping up with this pace.

Why should I be worried?

Putting blue-black-white hat on, I would like to see him win and take points away from Tänak's title-competitors. The same applies to Fourmaux and Pajari.

[Rallyper]

Munster already started and LIve isn´t on yet... :(

[meh]

Munster already started and LIve isn´t on yet... :(

Well, is that a big loss?

[Rallyper]

Well, is that a big loss?

Not for the driver, but for seeing stage from beginning 150 secs...

[jonkka]

Pajari loses position, better for Toyota as Katsuta is not nominated to score Manu points.

[jonkka]

Things are heating up, Neuville has brake problem and Fourmaux is breathing at his neck.

[meh]

Virves seems to lost some pace compared to yesterday. Latvala and Korhonen are clearly faster today, Linnamäe as well.

[Rallyper]

So no wipers, affected Oliver heavily?

[Humber]

FIA Rally officials could learn from even the US/ Mexican etc desert racers. The road side 'pit stop' service crews often put a road cone on the desert race truck, buggy bonnet while the vehicle is stopped & serviced/ refueled and race vehicle crew change-overs in long races. The driver only moves off after a service crew member removes the road cone.

[meh]

6 different stage winners so far, Evans and Ogier are not part of them.

[meh]

FIA Rally officials could learn from even the US/ Mexican etc desert racers. The road side 'pit stop' service crews often put a road cone on the desert race truck, buggy bonnet while the vehicle is stopped & serviced/ refueled and race vehicle crew change-overs in long races. The driver only moves off after a service crew member removes the road cone.

Completely makes sense. It is complicated for a driver to have an overview of what is going on around the car, especially when someone is checking tires or are low for any other reason. This is already by default. Let's add to the list a really muddy car and missing mirrors; it is an impossible task.

I'm not sure how it works at the moment, based on some hand signals and those were ignored by Tänak?

[meh]

M-Sport struggles with misted windscreens.

[EstWRC]

Very heavy rain at service park

[jonkka]

Why didn't Sesks stop earlier to clear the windscreen?

[meh]

Why didn't Sesks stop earlier to clear the windscreen?

I think they did not find a good/safe spot to stay, and if you can not see out at all, it makes finding one more complicated.

[Rallyper]

Why didn't Sesks stop earlier to clear the windscreen?

The stage is very narrow section when problem occured.

[focus206]

Unlucky Sesks...

[meh]

6 different stage winners so far, Evans and Ogier are not part of them.

Ogier joined the club. Evans, it is your turn now.

[EstWRC]

Tänak with second time?

Sorry I didn’t see the stage

[meh]

Tänak with second time?

Sorry I didn’t see the stage

Yes, 0.4 sec behind Ogier.

But now it seems that road is developing quite a lot, Rally2 guys are coming faster and faster.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

That was crazy that they still haven't got windscreen de-misting sorted in 2025. Ridiculous.

https://dai.ly/x9o1p5w

[meh]

But now it seems that road is developing quite a lot, Rally2 guys are coming faster and faster.

Solberg got 8th overall time, only 8.2 lost to Ogier.

[wwbroe]

Solberg got 8th overall time, only 8.2 lost to Ogier.

Faster then Pajari and all three Fords

[meh]

Now Pajari wants to fight back 8sec loss to Ogier and Evans?

[wwbroe]

He is trying at least

[wwbroe]

What is happening with Fourmaux? 10 sec lost in sceond split?

[meh]

Fourmaux 11.9 loss in 2nd split

edit: front right pressure alert, driving slowly

[archie106]

Puncture for Fourmaux by the look of it

[CeskyOndra]

Oh no, so unlucky..

[wwbroe]

Apparently puncture

[EstWRC]

Crazy fast stage, over 140 average

[meh]

It means that Katsuta-Ogier-Evans are now fighting for 3rd position.

[archie106]

Rock on the stage for Neuville and Fourmaux punctures?

[CeskyOndra]

Neuville also.. no words

[meh]

Neuville front-right as well.

Toyota can start partying already for 1-2-3-4-5.

[EstWRC]

Nightmare weekend for Hyundai when they announced they will continue

[wwbroe]

oh no, Neuville as well

[wwbroe]

What a disaster stage for Hyundai

[focus206]

Hankook strikes again, this time for Fourmaux as well

[Rallyper]

Disaster for the rally as well. How can you get a puncture on a straight road?

[philippebugalski]

Lost for words.. this killed a great rally for me in some way, what were the chances getting it on a this type of stage and both of them to get it even more ridiculous.
Neuville looks furious with Hankook.

[BlueStrike]

Complete and utter disaster stage for Tänak as well.

That‘s going to be a massive points deficit to claw back again if things stay like this.

May well be fourth in the championship again by this time tomorrow.

[EstWRC]

So since 2017 the only time that Toyota has been beaten here was 2022 Tänak with Hyundai.

Unfortunately they won’t be beaten again this year

[Dontcut]

Congrats to Toyota for manu champ title. Tänak gets decent start pos for next rallies. As we have seen, it really sucks to be cleaning the road.

[Dontcut]

What is the Vmax for the Hankook tyre? This stage was too much maybe :D

[Rallyper]

Also the speed is too high on this years version. They have to change a lot in the future.

[EstWRC]

Congrats to Toyota for manu champ title. Tänak gets decent start pos for next rallies. As we have seen, it really sucks to be cleaning the road.

It’s not that bad for Tänak at all actually

It’s the first bad rally of the season for
Him, I’m sure Evans will also have one almost zero rally or low score one.

Yeah he will leave about -20 points to Evans after this rally but that means again better starting position for the next two rallies before two tarmac rounds

[philippebugalski]

Congrats to Toyota for manu champ title. Tänak gets decent start pos for next rallies. As we have seen, it really sucks to be cleaning the road.

In the last few seasons only Kalle dominated while opening the roads on "gravel season" and he was purely dominating on few occasions (specially in the season where he won the 2nd title if I recall correctly..). Also it shows how great Thierry did last year protecting that 1st place championship wise through the whole season and with bunch of fast part timers on gravel (Ogier, Kalle, Lappi) who benefited alot. Obviously Evans failed to do it even with bigger point advantage this season so far.

[BlueStrike]

Funnily enough, Tänak would‘ve been lead Hyundai after this stage without the 5m penalty…

[meh]

Keeping in mind about tarmac rounds, I would watch towards Rovanperä as the main title contender, but now everything is changed - Evans and Ogier both gained quite many extra points.

[meh]

Tänak also with a puncture. The lottery mode is on now.

[Eli]

In the last few seasons only Kalle dominated while opening the roads on "gravel season" and he was purely dominating on few occasions (specially in the season where he won the 2nd title if I recall correctly..). Also it shows how great Thierry did last year protecting that 1st place championship wise through the whole season and with bunch of fast part timers on gravel (Ogier, Kalle, Lappi) who benefited alot. Obviously Evans failed to do it even with bigger point advantage this season so far.
Mind you last season had a different point scoring system, and Neuville had his strategy spot on.

[wwbroe]

Puncture for Ott as well, luckily closer to finish of the stage

[meh]

How many spare tires they carry? If Neuville or Fourmaux gets a new puncture, do they have a tire to leap to the service?

[Dontcut]

Does any wise man can confirm that this Ott's tyre can be inflated again on road and used on road section? That was not damaged, just off the rim.

[EstWRC]

Tyre also looking weird for Josh

[BlueStrike]

Last hope for Hyundai seems to be either punctures or the fact that Rovanperä, Evans & Ogier will have to slug it out for Sunday points over two passes of Ouninpohja tomorrow.

[focus206]

Mind you last season had a different point scoring system, and Neuville had his strategy spot on.

Neuville's strategy would have worked with any point system, because his main strategy was "crash less times and rack up points" and indeed he only Super rallied once. Tanak was the driver who scored the most points from Power Sunday + Power Stages last year.

[EstWRC]

Tänak actually lost quite a bit in the end. Even Sesks took 2 second back and Josh also a bit

[wwbroe]

How many spare tires they carry? If Neuville or Fourmaux gets a new puncture, do they have a tire to leap to the service?

I think they all have just one spare

[EstWRC]

Great stage from Tänak considering his starting position

[meh]

Tänak actually lost quite a bit in the end. Even Sesks took 2 second back and Josh also a bit

Tänak had a puncture at the end.

[linni]

Does any wise man can confirm that this Ott's tyre can be inflated again on road and used on road section? That was not damaged, just off the rim.

No, it definitely has a puncture. Sidewalls are strong enough to carry some speed, but unfortunately they are not runflat ones, as they once used to be. 5 more kilometers and this tyre would be kaputt.

[meh]

Rovanperä is clearly fastest. I expected him to back off a bit.

[Rallyper]

Is there an issue about teamwarnings over radio before start, or did I misunderstand the talk from Becs and Co?

[EstWRC]

WHere’s the hurry for Kalle and Neuville?

[Rallyper]

What a stupid question to Neuville about his career...

[meh]

Linnamäe messed something during last split.

Did not understand was the stage end comment "we are out" or "we were out"

edit 1: heard from rally radio: "Linnamäe lost right rear wheel completely"

edit 2: https://x.com/OfficialWRC/status/1951666427288539508

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rock on the stage for Neuville and Fourmaux punctures?

Same wheel one after the other, it sounds like they both ran over the same sharp stone.

[wwbroe]

JML slower as Korhonen, so opening the gap just a little bit more

[EstWRC]

Classic Linnamäe, never manages to finish properly

[KKS]

Nightmare weekend for Hyundai when they announced they will continue
Are they?

[Rallyper]

Are they?

For 2026. Yes.

[KKS]

For 2026. Yes.
Good to hear. One and a half propper seasons to come ...

[meh]

Provisional standings, SS15 > SS16
* Evans: 169 > 173
* Rovanperä: 163 > 163
* Tänak: 162 > 162
* Ogier: 151 > 156
* Neuville: 131 > 122

[KKS]

Does any wise man can confirm that this Ott's tyre can be inflated again on road and used on road section? That was not damaged, just off the rim.
If it was just "pop out" of a rim they could fill by small air canisters.
Still woundering why getting water from a stream/lake to fill radiator - allow. But pumping air by comperessor on a gas station - no

[meh]

Someone made Taka angry again? Evans and Ogier are pushing on the limit but Taka is faster.

[meh]

I finish the long rally-slavery day for today, see you tomorrow.

[EstWRC]

Unbelievable that no one hasn’t binned it considering the last two years but then again the itinerary is almost the same

[Dontcut]

Unbelievable that no one hasn’t binned it considering the last two years but then again the itinerary is almost the same

Estonia was also clean except Taka engine swap dnf.

[doubled1978]

Real bad luck for the Hyundai boys, both Neuville and Fourmaux had been great.
Evans had been good today, really doing well against guys behind him on the road, I think others have said, easily his most convincing day on gravel this season.
I wish we had a fight, but I do really hope that Rovanpera closes this one out and takes his home win.
Pajari a little bit of a disappointment, this was a day he could have pushed on.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So Toyota with places 12345 and still they wont have any team orders.

Evans will be glad to have his 15s lead over Pajari or he could end up just 5th place with 4 teammates ahead of him !

A Hyundai disaster today but still Sunday points for Neuville and Fourmaux to fight for. Tanak will be happy if he ends up not dropping a big points score to his rival, if Evans cant beat his colleagues.

[focus206]

If conditions allow it, I imagine Neuville and Tanak flat out and taking risks tomorrow for Sunday points. But Taka, Ogier and Evans also are in the fight for 2nd, so they won't take it easy.
I hope Kalle will finally get his first Finland win.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fourmaux said he and Neuville both got their punctures on the same corner.

[CeskyOndra]

Unbeliveable unluck for both Fourmaux and Neuville this year.. They almost always have the speed

[CeskyOndra]

Provisional standings, SS15 > SS16
* Evans: 169 > 173
* Rovanperä: 163 > 163
* Tänak: 162 > 162
* Ogier: 151 > 156
* Neuville: 131 > 122

With Paraguay being probably rough and difficult for the cars and Chile suiting both Kalle and Elfyn, 2 tarmac rounds where Kalle showed he can go fast this year and total car-breaker Arabia, I wouldn't bet on Tanak, just because of him driving Hyundai..

[CeskyOndra]

With Paraguay being probably rough and difficult for the cars and Chile suiting both Kalle and Elfyn, 2 tarmac rounds where Kalle showed he can go fast this year and total car-breaker Arabia, I wouldn't bet on Tanak, just because of him driving Hyundai..

..If Ogier announces Paraguay entry (he will haha), it's gonna be 4 way battle..

[Steve Boyd]

5min as engine change penalty for that kind situation is too much. Did Tanak have other offences with Finland marshals before?5 minute penalty for engine change is for changing the engine after shakedown and before the rally starts. You can't change the engine after TC0.

I don't think that 5 minutes is too much for driving off while a technical official is inspecting the car - it's less than the penalty for not stopping at a time control.

[Steve Boyd]

5 minute penalty for engine change is for changing the engine after shakedown and before the rally starts. You can't change the engine after TC0.

I don't think that 5 minutes is too much for driving off while a technical official is inspecting the car - it's less than the penalty for not stopping at a time control.Tried to edit post but forum gives database error.
What I would add is the procedure for holding a car while it is being inspected needs to be reviewed to stop this from happening again.

[Dontcut]

Stay

[Dontcut]

Staying on offtopic, 5min penalty in Finland or just in Kenya are whole differen

[Morte66]

The forum, she is not in a mood for edits this weekend. I found yesterday that it would give the "database error" when you try to edit, and leave you with both posts. But you can then edit the older post and delete it, if you want to clean up.

[Rallyper]

Hello. And good morning. Now this rally will be decided.

[wwbroe]

Morning guys, ready for two runs trough legendary Ouninpojha stage

[meh]

Morning guys, ready for two runs trough legendary Ouninpojha stage

Good morning!

I feel that it is not only the rally that is decided, but a lot of the championship will be decided.

It is time for... O-U-N-I-N-P-O-H-J-A-!

[wwbroe]

Tanak already in the stage, but no images

[archie106]

Ott already started the stage, why do we need to be watching recycled interviews?

[Lead]

Jesus, the stage is running... comon

[Eli]

Ott already started the stage, why do we need to be watching recycled interviews?

Why? Why? because they don’t know how to promote this beautiful sport for sh*t, having the same (unprofessional) commentators for 19 years tells you what you need to know.

On a side-note, Ouninpohja isn’t being run in its entirety right? I remember it being around 33kms.

[Lead]

Why? Why? because they don’t know how to promote this beautiful sport for sh*t, having the same (unprofessional) commentators for 19 years tells you what you need to know.

On a side-note, Ouninpohja isn’t being run in its entirety right? I remember it being around 33kms.

The most difficult part of the stage is left out (after Kakaristo junction 10km onward into the forest).

[jonkka]

On a side-note, Ouninpohja isn’t being run in its entirety right? I remember it being around 33kms.

The small road is not included this year, only the wider bigger road with yumps.

[EstWRC]

What’s the point of those team radios at the end of the stages?

Where’s that super command Centre that Adamo promised for fans?

Pathetic

[NoBudgetWRT]

Imo boring to watch on TV

[EstWRC]

Tänak has no change whatsoever today but that was expected

[meh]

That is a crazy intense fight between Evans and Ogier, they both deliver

[archie106]

The Ogier - Evans battle is great to watch, nothing between them

[wwbroe]

Incredible battle also between Korhonen and Latvalla

[Kras]

Boring rally. Feels Like a drag race

[Rallyper]

Boring rally. Feels Like a drag race

I´ve always been positive about this rally, having visited itmaybe 25 times (not this year), but have to agree.

Don´t know why, but same stages, too fast is for sure something to be thought over...

[EstWRC]

I also agree. This years edition looks boring

But maybe because I have been on stages the last 10 years.

Glad I didn’t go this year

[meh]

I have a different opinion about this. This is just a different style of rally, requires different skills and different talent.

When spectating on site you can experience how they ignore the rules of physics, you will not get such experience behind the screen - because it all seems "straight road and drag race".

Listen to interviews at the stage end now, drivers are just doing their dream stage.

[Rallyper]

I have a different opinion about this. This is just a different style of rally, requires different skills and different talent.

When spectating on site you can experience how they ignore the rules of physics, you will not get such experience behind the screen - because it all seems "straight road and drag race".

Listen to interviews at the stage end now, drivers are just doing their dream stage.

One can agree on that too. But spectating on site demands a lot if you should be happy... places to go and so on.

[meh]

One can agree on that too. But spectating on site demands a lot if you should be happy... places to go and so on.

Yes, it requires some homework. Listening to those airhorns from public areas I'm actually glad I'm not there.

[meh]

Provisional standings from SS18 > SS19
* Evans: 173 > 178
* Rovanperä: 163 > 166
* Tänak: 162 > 162
* Ogier: 156 > 160
* Neuville: 122 > 122

So most likely Tänak falls from 1st to 4th with that rally. The only way to gain points is if someone retires from the front.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I'm not sure this rally is boring but the coverage today this classic stage is really disappointing. If you told a non-fan to watch this morning, they'd say what's the big deal. It looked like any other Finland stage.

[meh]

So it is more question of the coverage, not about the rally. Let's wait for "YouTube videos from the forest".

[meh]

PS starting order: rally2 top3 in reverse order and then rally1 in reverse order.

[TypeR]

Glad that Hyundai made it's decision before this weekend :D otherwise tomorrow the news maybe wouldn't be so good haha :D

[EstWRC]

Provisional standings from SS18 > SS19
* Evans: 173 > 178
* Rovanperä: 163 > 166
* Tänak: 162 > 162
* Ogier: 156 > 160
* Neuville: 122 > 122

So most likely Tänak falls from 1st to 4th with that rally. The only way to gain points is if someone retires from the front.

which isnt bad at all considering the next two events and loose gravel

and will be back as a leader just before two tarmac rounds ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So it is more question of the coverage, not about the rally. Let's wait for "YouTube videos from the forest".

IMO the coverage had been pretty good, it's just this morning's of Ouninpohja. They built it up to be the mega-stage it is, but apart from one measured jump the visuals have been poor and previous days stages looked much more exciting.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

which isnt bad at all considering the next two events and loose gravel

and will be back as a leader just before two tarmac rounds ;)

Toyota's no team-orders strategy is playing into Tanaks hands too. Most other teams in WRC history would back their Championship leader and get him maximum points. But Evans has to fight his own teammates for points too !

[meh]

Respect for Kankunen statements, instead of celebrating Toyota's 1-2-3-4-5 in a style of how dominating they are, he pointed out that is just unfair for having Tänak 5min penalty and punctures for Neuville and Fourmaux in the same corner. An interview with Latvala could be different.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Oof, that was a hard landing for Roope but he's kept his speed.

[meh]

Well done Virves! 2 times in row on the podium is a class.

[meh]

Just watching the battle for WRC2 win, how can you call this a boring rally?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Congrats Roope Korhonen !!

[meh]

Tänak messed it.

edit: the tire delaminated

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak spun, the disaster of a rally is complete.

[Rallyper]

Congrats to Roope.

Tanak full speed spin!!

[Rallyper]

Congrats to Roope.

Tanak full speed spin!!

Edit: Dropped about 15 secs.

[meh]

But. The Tänak's tire issue shows only one thing - the rally is not over till it is over. For everyone.

edit: puncture for Munster as well

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Worrying delamination, that couldve caused a huge crash.

[EstWRC]

I don’t know what curse Tänak has with rally Finland after 2022

Just unbelievable

[Eli]

I know Sesks, wasn’t maybe as fast as we expected him to be but given his machinery, Imho both him & Josh have impressed here, just wish that Puma was better to give them both more confidence in that car.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Puncture for Munster too.

[Eli]

I don’t know what curse Tänak has with rally Finland after 2022

Just unbelievable

Fortunately for us Tänak has next year to try again.

[Negaiss]

Sesks powerstage time is quite OK. Is was also visible, that he is on the limit.

[meh]

Fourmaux losing time, also puncture?

[jonkka]

Fourmaux has an issue, bad split 6.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fourmaux slow too. Another flat tyre.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

.Toyota's will be getting worried.

[meh]

What kind be the mindset for Evans-Taka-Ogier-Rovanperä if they see puncture after puncture and they need to go and fight for the finest tenths?

[meh]

Fourmaux retired? Did not drive to the finish.

[EstWRC]

Wise from Hyundai to give at least 1 point to Tänak

[jonkka]

Fourmaux retires, apparently no spare so they couldn't get back to service.