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EstWRC
4th June 2023, 05:21
Stage win for Tänak.

All of the drivers except Loubet got a stage win from this rally

jonkka
4th June 2023, 05:36
Stage win for Tänak.

All of the drivers except Loubet got a stage win from this rally

Evans didn't.

EstWRC
4th June 2023, 05:40
Evans didn't.

Oh, sorry yes. Thought he did

Maybe he will get one today

RS
4th June 2023, 06:13
I realise it's Sunday but is that time for Pajari on SS16 correct?!

Sulland
4th June 2023, 06:17
The sundays need a re-think.

It is boring when all drivers are in transport+ mode, saving tyres for the PS.

denkimi
4th June 2023, 06:24
As has been mentioned before many times, give them a tyre changing zone just before power stage and all problems are solved.

Tauri_J
4th June 2023, 06:28
Its been like this ages. They wont do shit.

J4MIE
4th June 2023, 06:29
Next they will start fining drivers who loosen their belts after the FF!
Big brother is watching! I think I might be tempted to accidentally disable the in-car camera if I was a WRC1 crew member.

The rules are quite clear and all crews are reminded about this on every event. And if a camera should fail, there are scrutineers everywhere on events who will notice it as well.

Rallyper
4th June 2023, 06:31
Next they will start fining drivers who loosen their belts after the FF!
Big brother is watching! I think I might be tempted to accidentally disable the in-car camera if I was a WRC1 crew member.

Well, you probably got fined if doing that also... :( :(

EstWRC
4th June 2023, 06:31
Its been like this ages. They wont do shit.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230604/672534d9343c0a66d14abd0ab0b9118c.jpg

Rallyper
4th June 2023, 06:34
The rules are quite clear and all crews are reminded about this on every event. And if a camera should fail, there are scrutineers everywhere on events who will notice it as well.

Which rules should be or not? You can invent rules for everything, but for what cause?

AnttiL
4th June 2023, 06:39
Its been like this ages. They wont do shit.

Actually I heard already before Sardinia about some small changes for power stages coming already soon...

AnttiL
4th June 2023, 06:40
https://twitter.com/TommyHoward/status/1665244277692137473

For those wondering why the traditional #RallyItaliaSardegna #wrc jump into the harbour is banned this year for safety reasons. The FIA says the decision was made in advance of the event due to the cleanliness of the water and the depth of the water near the new podium site.

AnttiL
4th June 2023, 06:45
As has been mentioned before many times, give them a tyre changing zone just before power stage and all problems are solved.

In this rally they wouldn't have fresh soft tyres left anyway :D

dimviii
4th June 2023, 06:52
About Lindholm
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxwjvKUXoAIrOQT?format=jpg&name=medium

eib1
4th June 2023, 07:24
Kalle hitting a cow

https://www.facebook.com/reel/772009221255352

Sergiow
4th June 2023, 07:38
Awaiting the cars at the Tempio Pausania stage. Very sunny, no clouds at all but misty around the moumtains. Stage is still humid

Already during the SS11 Tempio live stage there was an animated discussion right in front of us between a stage marshall and someone with a photo jacket who kept on saying in broken english that he was just doing his job. The photographer had positioned himself between the spectators/fence and close to the stage. Some spectators complaining that the photographer was blocking their views. But luckily the marshall got communicated (by the Media/Stage Marshall?) through his walkie that the photographer was allowed to be just in front of the fence, but not in between. Can someone explain what the stage reglementation says about this kind of situation. At some point the stage marshall was treathening to halt the stage because the photographer wasn't listening but luckily both kept there cool and no interuption occurred ...

Sergiow
4th June 2023, 07:45
Also notice that we are now in Olbia, previous water jumps happened in Alghero (except 2021)

Pssst, do not tell anyone, but the traditional water jump in Alghero is done in the part of the harbor where the water is the most dirty. People from Alghero are always amazed that those crazies are jumping in the water right there at that point :rolleyes:

dimviii
4th June 2023, 07:47
Hyundai Motorsport
@HMSGOfficial
#WRC ���� Unfortunately
@DaniSordo
and
@Candido_Carrera
have to retire from #RallyItaliaSardegna after SS17 due to an exhaust failure and fire risk.

TypeR
4th June 2023, 07:55
so Fourmaux up to 5th place with rally2 car :D

Sergiow
4th June 2023, 07:55
Rovanperä: "this kind of micky mouse shit I don't like"

https://twitter.com/KalleRovanpera/status/1664916007666831361

This kind of comment is unworthy for a world rally champion, especially when the former World Champion and team mate took a commanding win on that very same SS10 stage ..

Rallyper
4th June 2023, 08:04
No tv from SS18?????

SubaruNorway
4th June 2023, 08:06
20% water, 80% Diesel
https://twitter.com/sebstianscott/status/1665058934065963008?s=20

I'm guessing Lindholm was rear crossmember mounting or something like that, maybe they have to remove the fuel tank to fix it properly?

TypeR
4th June 2023, 08:08
No tv from SS18?????
Plane refuelling or smth..

Tauri_J
4th June 2023, 08:10
so Fourmaux up to 5th place with rally2 car :D

His best result in Rally1 is 5th place lol

Rallyper
4th June 2023, 08:16
Sundays are just a discrase.
They really have to change PS rules. Fresh tires for everyone. Shuld´ve been done long time ago.

Dontcut
4th June 2023, 08:20
Extra tyres for sure. But furthermore xtra points for each stage or sunday leg.

meh
4th June 2023, 08:21
We can create any kind of artificial rules to improve some situation, but the general problem is lack of competition which is base reason for the cruising situation - there is no need to push and fight for position.

CeskyOndra
4th June 2023, 08:22
My heart stopped when they switched to Neuville and he was going slowly :D

Rallyper
4th June 2023, 08:25
We can create any kind of artificial rules to improve some situation, but the general problem is lack of competition which is base reason for the cruising situation - there is no need to push and fight for position.

This time it´s also factor.

becher
4th June 2023, 08:26
We can create any kind of artificial rules to improve some situation, but the general problem is lack of competition which is base reason for the cruising situation - there is no need to push and fight for position.
Which is exactly like it was 40 years ago as well in the last few stages. Of course they can remove the tyre saving, but you won't see them fighting for position on a 60km sunday when the gaps are one minute or more, not even a longer sunday would change that to be honest.

seb_sh
4th June 2023, 08:36
A tyre change zone before PS would help sometimes and more Rally1 cars would always help, the first one is easy to do from the next rally even. Both should be done really.

Rallyper
4th June 2023, 09:16
Which is exactly like it was 40 years ago as well in the last few stages. Of course they can remove the tyre saving, but you won't see them fighting for position on a 60km sunday when the gaps are one minute or more, not even a longer sunday would change that to be honest.

But if gap is one minute more or less, you can´t stop fighting. Wkat do you as a competitor know what happens to other crews/cars? You never give up fighting if there´s a chance for better positions, just because anything can happen.
Slowing down an then loose a podium with a couple of seconds bcs you didn´t fight. Nah. No competitor does that.

Rally Hokkaido
4th June 2023, 09:18
Already during the SS11 Tempio live stage there was an animated discussion right in front of us between a stage marshall and someone with a photo jacket who kept on saying in broken english that he was just doing his job. The photographer had positioned himself between the spectators/fence and close to the stage. Some spectators complaining that the photographer was blocking their views. But luckily the marshall got communicated (by the Media/Stage Marshall?) through his walkie that the photographer was allowed to be just in front of the fence, but not in between. Can someone explain what the stage reglementation says about this kind of situation. At some point the stage marshall was treathening to halt the stage because the photographer wasn't listening but luckily both kept there cool and no interuption occurred ...

Where they are allowed to go/stand and where they are not for every stage is explained (with diagrams) in the Media Guide given to all accredited media personnel.

meh
4th June 2023, 09:23
There can be some "a bit cruising mode" for Rally2 also, but Pajari has shown really good times.

RC2 leg 3 only (SS16 + SS17 + SS18) before PowerStage.

1. Pajari
2. Solberg +17.4
3. Grazin +21.7
4. Fourmaux +25.9
5. Mikkelsen +31.2
6. Suninen +31.8

edit: better/fresh tires?

meh
4th June 2023, 09:48
Maybe a repost, but this is how Virves lost wheel just driving through water:
https://www.facebook.com/1573726984/videos/812422780446426/

Not nice place for Estonians.

Rallyper
4th June 2023, 09:52
There can be some "a bit cruising mode" for Rally2 also, but Pajari has shown really good times.

RC2 leg 3 only (SS16 + SS17 + SS18) before PowerStage.

1. Pajari
2. Solberg +17.4
3. Grazin +21.7
4. Fourmaux +25.9
5. Mikkelsen +31.2
6. Suninen +31.8

edit: better/fresh tires?

Maybe. And nothing to go for actually. Solberg though needs PS points.

meh
4th June 2023, 10:00
Some weather randomness into the game - heavy rain on powerstage

TypeR
4th June 2023, 10:01
Proper rain on PS

EstWRC
4th June 2023, 10:01
This is gonna be interesting now. Katsuta has proper changes for 5 points

Tauri_J
4th June 2023, 10:04
This gonna be a lottery, Who gets the most driest conditions.

RS
4th June 2023, 10:05
This gonna be a lottery, Who gets the most driest conditions.

If it stops raining it could be a later Rally2 driver.

EstWRC
4th June 2023, 10:09
Raining heavier now

meh
4th June 2023, 10:12
Hyundai boss probably is not very calm at the moment watching this weather...

TypeR
4th June 2023, 10:15
At least no dust problem

skarderud
4th June 2023, 10:17
Someone going to bin it on this PS.

Sent fra min SM-S901B via Tapatalk

EstWRC
4th June 2023, 10:18
And it seems now rain stopped again

This will be such a lottery

Kras
4th June 2023, 10:20
It seems like the top of the pack will get favourable conditions.

Sucks for Tanak, oh well

Tauri_J
4th June 2023, 10:22
Absolutely chucking down for Mikkelsen

Tauri_J
4th June 2023, 10:25
Sorry but Fourmax is an idiot

meh
4th June 2023, 10:25
Fourmaux stopped - off.

Kras
4th June 2023, 10:25
Mikkelsen just sent it there. Really well driven

Rallyper
4th June 2023, 10:26
Someone going to bin it on this PS.

Sent fra min SM-S901B via Tapatalk

First victim. Very sad...

EstWRC
4th June 2023, 10:26
Great weekend for Msport

malscar
4th June 2023, 10:27
Mikkelsen just sent it there. Really well driven

but Rossel was still faster

EstWRC
4th June 2023, 10:27
The Marshall is filming instead of helping ? Wtf

Kras
4th June 2023, 10:27
The position of that car is gonna ruin the whole stage

Kras
4th June 2023, 10:28
but Rossel was still faster

Much better conditions for Rossel

TypeR
4th June 2023, 10:28
hero to zero very quickly..

jonkka
4th June 2023, 10:28
The position of that car is gonna ruin the whole stage

But it will be same for everyone.

Tauri_J
4th June 2023, 10:28
The position of that car is gonna ruin the whole stage

Its fine imo

Rallyper
4th June 2023, 10:29
The Marshall is filming instead of helping ? Wtf

In Finland (and also Sweden) the car would´ve been on the road in 20 secs.

Kras
4th June 2023, 10:30
In Finland (and also Sweden) the car would´ve been on the road in 20 secs.

Considering the fact that he car is broken, they should have rolled it on the ditch instead

EstWRC
4th June 2023, 10:30
Tänak hasn’t started. Seems stage is stopped now

rp
4th June 2023, 10:30
Rather sure that Fourmaux and Loubet will not drive Rally1 cars in the future. What a stupid mistake by Adrien!

Tauri_J
4th June 2023, 10:31
Lol a brake before Ott is great

Ruts Will be filled with water

Dontcut
4th June 2023, 10:32
Rather sure that Fourmaux and Loubet will not drive Rally1 cars in the future. What a stupid mistake by Adrien!
Serderidis it is.

Rallyper
4th June 2023, 10:34
Considering the fact that he car is broken, they should have rolled it on the ditch instead

Didn´t know that car was broken. How do you know?

Edit: Well, it should be damaged.

Kras
4th June 2023, 10:35
Lol a brake before Ott is great

Ruts Will be filled with water

This season he gets and insult to every injury

Tauri_J
4th June 2023, 10:35
Thats a nice lie. We have had red flags/stoppages because of rain in WRC

Kras
4th June 2023, 10:35
Didn´t know that car was broken. How do you know?

Seemed like hit a big stone on the onboard

Tauri_J
4th June 2023, 10:36
Wow they made it even worse, better should have left Fourmax car alone

EstWRC
4th June 2023, 10:37
This is so amateur

Tauri_J
4th June 2023, 10:38
Nevermind this brake could help Ott :D

Rallyper
4th June 2023, 10:40
Whole right side suspension damaged. Front and rear...

Kras
4th June 2023, 10:40
Nevermind this brake could help Ott :D

Only if it starts raining when hes half way trough

TypeR
4th June 2023, 10:41
Professionals at work..

meh
4th June 2023, 10:44
"Ott, Ott... hey, Ott, wake up, it's time now"

EstWRC
4th June 2023, 10:48
Slower than Taka

meh
4th June 2023, 10:51
Slower than Taka

0.1 faster at the end

Rallyper
4th June 2023, 10:51
Good job from Ott. Guess Taka was on much better tyres.

EstWRC
4th June 2023, 10:52
Good job from Ott. Guess Taka was on much better tyres.

He wasn’t. He had used ones while Ott had news ones

meh
4th June 2023, 10:54
Oeh, Rovanperä goes for it. 4.7 faster than Tänak

Rallyper
4th June 2023, 10:54
He wasn’t. He had used ones while Ott had news ones

Disappointing time from Ott

Can´t argue against, but seems quite weird. Taka drove less Km:s...

Rallyper
4th June 2023, 10:59
Kalle. So mature. Good weekend for him.

EstWRC
4th June 2023, 11:01
Where is the guy who said yesterday that Fourmaux will replace Loubet soon? :D

EstWRC
4th June 2023, 11:03
Congrats Hyundai. Was about time they got a win

3rd straight podium for Lappi.

Kras
4th June 2023, 11:08
Must feel pretty chill when you're the championship leader and you look behind yourself to see Neuville there 🤣

Tauri_J
4th June 2023, 11:08
Where is the guy who said yesterday that Fourmaux will replace Loubet soon? :D

They both have Meekenitis

Eli
4th June 2023, 11:08
Congrats to Hyundai and I’m glad for Lappi’s third podium in a row (although I’d prefer seeing him win) but honestly it was embarrassing watching both of them, okay you get a 1-2 but with Toyota’s power stage win combined with Evans’s 2 points Hyundai reduced the gap by a mere 9 points, at least they’d go for an extra 3 points (2+1) or something like that.

Doon
4th June 2023, 11:09
More support catagory cars in the top 10 than top tier cars. How long before there’s a Rally2 driver on the podium? Kenya?

EstWRC
4th June 2023, 11:11
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230604/3f8921b131a5c5cb63ac11afa4f980fa.jpg

Sergiow
4th June 2023, 11:20
The winning team, for a plate of fries :)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxuOctvX0AIE50R?format=jpg&name=medium

https://twitter.com/thierryneuville/status/1665081121187479552?cxt=HHwWgIC26aWdx5suAAAA

RS
4th June 2023, 11:31
Did they stop the stage after Rally1 crews? No more results.

Tom K
4th June 2023, 11:33
Yes, stage was stopped and apparently no more cars. End of rally

Rallyper
4th June 2023, 11:36
Yes, stage was stopped and apparently no more cars. End of rally

Strange.

RS
4th June 2023, 12:06
Strange.

Maybe they didn't want later crews taking the PS points if the weather cleared?

becher
4th June 2023, 12:38
But if gap is one minute more or less, you can´t stop fighting. Wkat do you as a competitor know what happens to other crews/cars? You never give up fighting if there´s a chance for better positions, just because anything can happen.
Slowing down an then loose a podium with a couple of seconds bcs you didn´t fight. Nah. No competitor does that.
Don't remember mentioning small gaps.

Sulland
4th June 2023, 13:02
Where is the guy who said yesterday that Fourmaux will replace Loubet soon? :D

Both of them have speed, but little consistency.
Both should be in WRC2 to mature.

TypeR
4th June 2023, 14:00
At least some right decision - wrc2 crews don't get PS points

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/powerstage-points-not-awarded-to-wrc2-crews/

Although the cancellation is still weird.

dimviii
4th June 2023, 14:08
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fxx-JLpWIAEunIv?format=jpg&name=large

Tauri_J
4th June 2023, 14:26
Wait… rain got worse after Rally1 cars finished? Or what was the problem?

Dontcut
4th June 2023, 14:32
Wait… rain got worse after Rally1 cars finished? Or what was the problem?

No idea but even more bitter for Formaux.

Eli
4th June 2023, 15:04
A bit off topic, but this is the first 2nd place finish for Lappi since Turkey 2019, back in his Citroën days, also, I’m pretty sure it’s the first time in his career he scored three podiums in a row, although it will be a hard one to follow as he’s never been to Kenya.

drive
4th June 2023, 15:40
Power stage first run water splash - some saving cars, some not https://youtu.be/VG0gNHc55rA

drive
4th June 2023, 15:49
Maybe they didn't want later crews taking the PS points if the weather cleared?
Spectators started to move like crazy...

Eli
4th June 2023, 18:14
Post-Event press-conference: https://www.fia.com/news/wrc-rally-italia-sardegna-post-event-press-conference-transcript

meh
4th June 2023, 18:14
Lappi has been relatively short time in Hyundai but he is doing well. It may improve or kill the team dynamic when Lappi start showing constantly better performance than Neuville which puts a lot of pressure to Neuville to show that he is The Man.

It will be interesting to see when fast-flowing competitions (Estonia, Finland) are coming.

TypeR
4th June 2023, 18:18
Lappi has been relatively short time in Hyundai but he is doing well. It may improve or kill the team dynamic when Lappi start showing constantly better performance than Neuville which puts a lot of pressure to Neuville to show that he is The Man.

It will be interesting to see when fast-flowing competitions (Estonia, Finland) are coming.
Would love to see him beat Neuville fair-square in Estonia and Finland..
All understandable w teamorders and most likely Lappi new what he signed for, but at the finish line Neuville should have been a bit more calm :D It seemed like he had a really tough fight for the win..

meh
4th June 2023, 18:38
Would love to see him beat Neuville fair-square in Estonia and Finland..

Statistically it should not be the hardest task as Neuville does not like fast stuff, he seems to be better with relatively slow and rough roads.

But the problem for Neuville (and for Hyundai from driver title perspective) - every time Lappi is ahead of him he basically takes point away from him. And now Lappi is one of the biggest fan of Tänak-Ogier-Rovenperä-Evans, because the only hope for his own win is that he is leading and at least some of mentioned ones is between him and Neuville.

meh
4th June 2023, 18:45
Statement from Fourmaux:
https://twitter.com/AdrienFourmaux/status/1665421980395290624/photo/1

focus206
4th June 2023, 18:45
Would love to see him beat Neuville fair-square in Estonia and Finland..
All understandable w teamorders and most likely Lappi new what he signed for, but at the finish line Neuville should have been a bit more calm :D It seemed like he had a really tough fight for the win..

Pretty sure Lappi will be told to push for the win in Estonia and Finland. He's expected and required to be faster than Neuville there. If he can't fight for the top positions and deliver in his strongest rallies, what was he hired for?
The only way he'll be asked to slow down is if he's not fighting for position and he's 3rd with Neuville 4th, for example.

Tauri_J
4th June 2023, 18:56
Would love to see him beat Neuville fair-square in Estonia and Finland..
All understandable w teamorders and most likely Lappi new what he signed for, but at the finish line Neuville should have been a bit more calm :D It seemed like he had a really tough fight for the win..

Who is slower than Neuville in Estonia/Finland? I can only say Loubet.

TypeR
4th June 2023, 18:59
Yes ,,rules are rules'', but just came to a thought about the gloves fine..

Driver taking gloves off after finish line is bad and dangerous, but co-drivers don't wear them at all.. :D

Stupid rules shouldn't be in the book.

J4MIE
5th June 2023, 00:48
Yes ,,rules are rules'', but just came to a thought about the gloves fine..

Driver taking gloves off after finish line is bad and dangerous, but co-drivers don't wear them at all.. :D

Stupid rules shouldn't be in the book.

Why is it a stupid rule?
Do you think co-drivers should wear gloves as well? Do you know there are gloves available for them?

meh
5th June 2023, 06:27
Why is it a stupid rule?
Do you think co-drivers should wear gloves as well? Do you know there are gloves available for them?

Instead of throwing those questions, can you, as a person with more insight and experience, educate others on the topic?

J4MIE
5th June 2023, 11:29
Instead of throwing those questions, can you, as a person with more insight and experience, educate others on the topic?

There was an investigation, the rules were found to have been broken, and a penalty applied.

I can’t see the issue.

EstWRC
5th June 2023, 11:49
Passats De Canto vid https://youtu.be/K5oLVbeYHiw

meh
5th June 2023, 12:15
Driver taking gloves off after finish line is bad and dangerous, but co-drivers don't wear them at all.. :D

Stupid rules shouldn't be in the book.




Why is it a stupid rule?



There was an investigation, the rules were found to have been broken, and a penalty applied.

I can’t see the issue.

My question is - why this rule makes sense? Why it is dangerous?

Note: the question does not contain any statement or argument against that - it is valid question searching arguments, why this rule exists.

tommeke_B
5th June 2023, 13:57
Back from an amazing rally, spectator-wise. In terms of competition it's more and more clear that the Rally1-category is unsustainable.

Few photos:

https://scontent.fbru2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/351462604_586069896850125_7438970797636912691_n.jp g?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=4L1JS_M0dE0AX-MJl_h&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru2-1.fna&oh=00_AfDWLKEOiyfl3QTpK3ER1Poe03ZUvY-QHUX72Y6hU0Axeg&oe=64839841

https://scontent.fbru2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/351464507_791560509017782_313016638346262312_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=xXmsB32iFvQAX9ui-re&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru2-1.fna&oh=00_AfDtH5nLZaB2wb-zNdVM-GPwl4aD9nsooEoPPu2FNdvSoQ&oe=64832B03

https://scontent.fbru2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/351155076_776849140893774_3248639917332541662_n.jp g?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=TufVoOJ-KV4AX_Uy_DW&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru2-1.fna&oh=00_AfCSEaFporOkQGxF5vyXgneuHve9YRvA9cPE_9c0KUOW Lw&oe=64828203

https://scontent.fbru2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/351582662_1014531136587123_29496685642625453_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=pZqonqtryZcAX9jdQrl&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru2-1.fna&oh=00_AfCQP2CVTBHPnzB3mW04rIyPE_rziFTDSGgP6gOl8mKY qg&oe=64825D09

https://scontent.fbru2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/351469142_904676680626160_8164924883701462061_n.jp g?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=0debeb&_nc_ohc=fofn2-D8oOEAX-xnoK9&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru2-1.fna&oh=00_AfCM38fdMeBh4-CRlsMLoOPHCaVCt2ciOaJ085k3NhI56A&oe=6482E40D

Small album: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?vanity=rallyimage&set=a.702971838504349

TypeR
5th June 2023, 14:06
Very nice photos, thanks for sharing!

denkimi
5th June 2023, 15:40
My question is - why this rule makes sense? Why it is dangerous?

Note: the question does not contain any statement or argument against that - it is valid question searching arguments, why this rule exists.
It exists because burning your hands is something you really don't want. But because the codriver has to be able to flip papers, he physically can't wear fireproof gloves.

There is a good reasoning to make for keeping your gloves on till after the time control.

Rallyper
5th June 2023, 16:05
It exists because burning your hands is something you really don't want. But because the codriver has to be able to flip papers, he physically can't wear fireproof gloves.

There is a good reasoning to make for keeping your gloves on till after the time control.

Don´t make sense to me. After the finish line, that is.

bandit12
5th June 2023, 16:07
I always thought that gloves is for getting better grip with steering wheel 🤔

Bigalstosh99
5th June 2023, 16:21
Don´t make sense to me. After the finish line, that is.

Could be the issue is ensuring the driver maintains full control in the flying finish? removing gloves means taking hands off the wheel.

TypeR
5th June 2023, 17:00
It exists because burning your hands is something you really don't want. But because the codriver has to be able to flip papers, he physically can't wear fireproof gloves.

There is a good reasoning to make for keeping your gloves on till after the time control.

what..?!
No real point in this answer.
I'm not writing to bring up random argument, but this rule(okay stupid is tooo sensitive word) just doesn't make sense.
If needed, co-drivers could use ,,rubber-fingerdip'' gloves and all good, but there has remained some common sense and reality, that drivers use gloves for grip and co-drivers don't coz it would be too unconfortable and unnecessary.



Could be the issue is ensuring the driver maintains full control in the flying finish? removing gloves means taking hands off the wheel.
Cmon.. is it a common thing that drivers are going 100-150+kmh thru finish and already taking off gloves? :D

Paul Hudson
5th June 2023, 17:13
I Seem to remember that in the past you could get co Drivers Fia gloves, Which were just up to the Knuckles leaving finger tips free to turn the pages and press buttons etc, not sure what happened to them.

Rallyper
5th June 2023, 17:17
I´m pretty sure Oliver wore gloves while doing donuts in Portugal. However the driver, going in 100+ km/h speed don´t mix with his gloves, not even after finish line. But coming down to proper speed they sure can handle the car at the same time.

rallyfiend
5th June 2023, 17:43
Don´t make sense to me. After the finish line, that is.

Tell that to Marcus Gronholm and Timo Rautiainen who had a big accident after the finish line just last week....

There's a wrecked Subaru WRc car that would beg to differ with your assertion.

ictus
5th June 2023, 20:03
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gaudino69
5th June 2023, 21:21
a very wet edition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdsCcHpf7dE

NielsH
6th June 2023, 11:20
Where is Mme Mouton? Didn´t she have her eyes on spectators at this jump?

She stopped, sent them away. Marshall's came and after a few minutes the spectators all were standing there again. Marshall's where the worst I've ever seen at that spot. Overall the marshall's were below par but especially at the Terranova jump they were horrible.

NielsH
6th June 2023, 14:08
Had a great time on the island, did not need the factor 50 sunscreen that much ;-) Great spots, great food and some Ichnusa beers.

https://www.rally-photo.net/wp-content/gallery/2023-rally-italia-sardegna-wrc/IMG_7114.jpg

https://www.rally-photo.net/wp-content/gallery/2023-rally-italia-sardegna-wrc/IMG_2054.jpg

https://www.rally-photo.net/wp-content/gallery/2023-rally-italia-sardegna-wrc/IMG_1713.jpg

https://www.rally-photo.net/wp-content/gallery/2023-rally-italia-sardegna-wrc/IMG_1152.jpg

https://www.rally-photo.net/wp-content/gallery/2023-rally-italia-sardegna-wrc/IMG_0813.jpg

And the full gallery: https://www.rally-photo.net/photo-galleries/nggallery/gallery/2023-rally-italia-sardegna-wrc

CeskyOndra
6th June 2023, 17:33
Beautiful shots bro!

Morte66
7th June 2023, 18:59
Kalle hitting a cow

https://www.facebook.com/reel/772009221255352

Is there any news on the cow?

rp
7th June 2023, 19:39
Is there any news on the cow?

There has been almost no other news in Finland during this week, because one animal philosopher started to discredit and blame Rovanperä, when he hit a cow, but it´s alive!

https://www.iltalehti.fi/ralli/a/8a79f205-154b-4d46-98fd-84a8801fea45

dimviii
8th June 2023, 04:21
https://twitter.com/PowerslidePod/status/1666533437203685382

wyler
8th June 2023, 09:49
She stopped, sent them away. Marshall's came and after a few minutes the spectators all were standing there again. Marshall's where the worst I've ever seen at that spot. Overall the marshall's were below par but especially at the Terranova jump they were horrible.

point is they were not marshalls. i've heard rumors that most of them were steward hired from other sport events ( i.e stadiums).
only a minority were real marshalls.

NielsH
8th June 2023, 10:35
point is they were not marshalls. i've heard rumors that most of them were steward hired from other sport events ( i.e stadiums).
only a minority were real marshalls.

That makes a lot of sense, was clear they had no feeling for rallying whatsoever.

Fast Eddie WRC
8th June 2023, 10:55
There has been almost no other news in Finland during this week, because one animal philosopher started to discredit and blame Rovanperä, when he hit a cow, but it´s alive!

https://www.iltalehti.fi/ralli/a/8a79f205-154b-4d46-98fd-84a8801fea45

To be honest, whatever the law says about hitting somebody's animal on the road in that country should apply the same on a rally stage. If it's a wild animal then probably not but a cow is a domestic animal.

alwaysmzh
11th June 2023, 03:08
I've got a question for the WRC2 points after Rally Italia Sardinia. On WRC website, it shows that no WRC2 driver gets the power stage points. And actually Munster is the fastest, Rossel second and Kajetanowicz third. ①So does the website haven't update the power stage points? ②If count the power stage points, is that right Munster, Rossel and Kajetanowicz get 3-2-1 points? Little confused about those WRC2 points rules.
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Power Stage Result (https://www.wrc.com/en/wrcplus/live-timing/)
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WRC2 Championship Standing (https://www.wrc.com/en/results-standings/championship-standings/seasons/championship-standings/2023/wrc2/)
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Power Stage Points (https://www.wrc.com/en/results-standings/wolf-power-stage-standings/wrc2---wps-standings-2023/)

TypeR
11th June 2023, 04:56
They didn't award PS points for WRC2 in Sardegna as stage was cancelled before all WRC2 crews were able to drive (would have been unfair to them).

mknight
11th June 2023, 06:17
Ever since the Rally2 categories got merged ( and even before) the PS starting positions have been a big issue. They always put the leading Rally2s first on the PS, which leads to more than an hour and 10-15 car difference between them and rest of Rally2.

On almost all rallies it leads to big differences in conditions. Usually the later starters get advantage but a few times not.

Seemingly FIA reduced the max PS points for Rally2 from 5 to 3 before this season because of that.

jparerax7
11th June 2023, 12:51
Very cool video from a photographer in Sardinia! https://youtu.be/58spu1sawlk

Steve Boyd
15th June 2023, 01:38
Ogier off.

Hanging over side of the road, quite in the beginning of the stage
Somebody should have shown him this (at 3:43) before the start:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0K9cGEq54Y

becher
15th June 2023, 06:20
Somebody should have shown him this (at 3:43) before the start:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0K9cGEq54Y

How cool is that! The whole channel is gold!