[WRC] Rally Italia Sardinia 2023

[EstWRC]

He was lost the moment he decided to leave toyota. The most stupid decision of his carreer.

He won't get the title being in that Ford or hyundai.

Agreed. Has to be one of the worst decisions ever in Motorsport history.

[Kras]

Driving for MS is a waste of time.

Puma is such a shitty car, my god

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Puncture for Evans.

[linni]

Puma is such a shitty car, my god

I think it`s a better car than Hyuandai 3 years ago, compared. It has speed. Just the stupid reliability issues.

[meh]

So Lappi with 0.1 to the lead :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

0.1s lead ha ha !

[linni]

Lappi deserves it. I believe he is a world champion within following 5 years. He has it. Evan unfortunately does not. Consinstance.

[Tauri_J]

Loubet crash again dear lord

[Kras]

Lappi beating Ogier would make me really happy. This Ogiers record hunting is a pretty boring.

They should separate records done in full season campaigns to discurage this bullshit.

In other news: Loubet is still shit

[Lead]

Lappi deserves it. I believe he is a world champion within following 5 years. He has it. Evan unfortunately does not. Consinstance.

What?

[meh]

Loubet crash again dear lord

Loubet:
* showing good time: checked
* technical problems: checked
* off the road: checked

Do all the things already friday

edit: note, as we don't know the reason for "off", I don't blame Loubet in case it was caused by technical failure

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Loubet puts the tin hat on the day for M-Sport. :(

[Kras]

Loubet:
* showing good time: checked
* technical problems: checked
* off the road: checked

Do all the things already friday

And now he secured himself another good starting position for another friday. Then everyone can again pretend that he has good pace

[Kras]

I think it`s a better car than Hyuandai 3 years ago, compared. It has speed. Just the stupid reliability issues.

Hyundai 3 years ago had a lot of technical problems, but was for sure faster than Puma

[linni]

What?

You do not have to be an expert comparing. And analizying.
Mark my words, Lappi will (probably) be a world champion, Evans will not.

[seb_sh]

Lappi deserves it. I believe he is a world champion within following 5 years. He has it. Evan unfortunately does not. Consinstance.

It's only Friday usually he crashes on Saturday.

[linni]

Hyundai 3 years ago had a lot of technical problems, but was for sure faster than Puma

I do remeber Ott complainig 24/7 that they have not speed enuogh.

[linni]

It's only Friday usually he crashes on Saturday.

Ott crashed the first 3+ years.
But still peaople had a faith on him. Malcolm for example.

[seb_sh]

Lappi beating Ogier would make me really happy. This Ogiers record hunting is a pretty boring.

They should separate records done in full season campaigns to discurage this bullshit.


Then according to you they would have to throw away half the history and statistics of the WRC. He didn't even have such a big road position advantage. Sheesh!

[dimviii]

Fourmaux now leading Mikkelsen with 9,6 sec

[Lead]

What happened to Suninen?

[meh]

Fourmaux now leading Mikkelsen with 9,6 sec

Fourmaux over Mikkelsen, but for RC2 lead we need to wait Pajari

edit: and Pajari to the lead!


What happened to Suninen?

Broke a rim (puncture)

[linni]

@Kras
Records are achieved to be beaten.

[seb_sh]

Ott crashed the first 3+ years.
But still peaople had a faith on him. Malcolm for example.

Let's see, for me he is more like the Sordo but of fast gravel. When he tries to fight with the big boys on other rallies bad things start to happen. I like him don't get me wrong!

[Kras]

Then according to you they would have to throw away half the history and statistics of the WRC. He didn't even have such a big road position advantage. Sheesh!

Either that, or make part-timers sweep on every event. It's not only Ogier thats boring, who wants to watch Sordo conceding positions to Neuville 4 times a year.

[EstWRC]

so as i understand, there should be quite a lot of rain tomorrow?

[Kras]

so as i understand, there should be quite a lot of rain tomorrow?

Ford better get some snorkles

[dimviii]

Pajari leading Fourmaux with 6,3 sec

[Katvala]

Lappi beating Ogier would make me really happy. This Ogiers record hunting is a pretty boring.

They should separate records done in full season campaigns to discurage this bullshit.

In other news: Loubet is still shitWhy? It is only recently that full time drivers are a big thing in WRC. Before, there was more partial campaigns. Teams even dropping certain rounds

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[Katvala]

Either that, or make part-timers sweep on every event. It's not only Ogier thats boring, who wants to watch Sordo conceding positions to Neuville 4 times a year.And get back the drivers slowing down before stage end to drop in order for a better road position next day?

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier is doing the rallies he does now for enjoyment. The only record he was interested in is wins on his home event of Monte Carlo. If he was really after records then he wouldve stayed full-time to take all of Loeb's.

[meh]

If to take Loubet 2nd place with nominal time into account, then all Rally1 drivers got at least one top2 stage time.

Ogier - win
Evans - 2nd
Rovanpera - win
Tanak - 2nd
Neuville - win
Lappi - win
Katsuta - win
Sordo - 2nd
Loubet - 2nd (Nominal time), otherwise 3rd

[dimviii]

Greensmith

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxoiEMdWwAEbaWY?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxoiEMaWIAIxAMe?format=jpg&name=medium

[Tauri_J]

so as i understand, there should be quite a lot of rain tomorrow?

Not seeing more than today. Should be similar conditions. Dry in the morning and wet afternoon. Sunday could be wet all day.

[EstWRC]

Not seeing more than today. Should be similar conditions. Dry in the morning and wet afternoon. Sunday could be wet all day.

Weird. Estonian commentators were talking the whole day it will be wet tomorrow but I don’t know what meteo site they looked or where they got the info

[EstWRC]

Bounce bounce baby https://youtu.be/1JhqFxu3M8M

[Rallyper]

Why? It is only recently that full time drivers are a big thing in WRC. Before, there was more partial campaigns. Teams even dropping certain rounds

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Hey. That was long time ago.

[Rallyper]

Bounce bounce baby https://youtu.be/1JhqFxu3M8M

At 2:40. Loubet! Crazy! One of the best shots I ever seen!!!!

[denkimi]

Bounce bounce baby https://youtu.be/1JhqFxu3M8M
I see a lot of people in dangerous places.

[dimviii]

Pierre-Louis Loubet
@PL_Loubet
·
1h
As always, we were in the game, we could have hoped for a good result this weekend.
But lack of chance. Once again.
A blocked gearbox, a 3-minute penalty and then the broken steering...
The frustration is huge for me tonight, but also for all the people behind me...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak:

We had three stages today and each was run twice. One of them was a massive 50km long. Unfortunately, we struggled a lot during the both loop.

On today's first loop, we weren't able to push to the maximum as the road conditions were difficult and I couldn’t find the right feeling with the car.

On the second loop of the stages, we immediately got some alarms on the dashboard when we started to SS5. We had to face different electrical issues that caused the loss of power in the engine and we also lost the hybrid system.

On today's last stage SS7, the water pump stopped working due to these electrical troubles and we were really considering to park up the car, but luckily it came back to alive and we were able to finish the day.

Despite the issues we had to face today, we will keep going and we know that Sardinia is full of surprises, so nothing is over before the rally is finished. We go and fight for what’s possible! 💪

[dimviii]

World Rally Championship drivers have called for a change to the regulation which forces competitors to select tires the night before they’re used.

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/drivers-call-for-tire-selection-regulation-change/

[Myrvold]

Having by far the longest stage on Day 1 is harsh on those leading the Championship and so opening the road. They have no chance of the rally win already.

It's not the only rally to have a longer day 1 than day 2.

It's the total length, not the length of a single stage that's the issue, no?

[meh]

Statement from Greensmith: https://twitter.com/GreensmithGus/status/1664731197983916032/photo/1

[EstWRC]

Tanak:

We had three stages today and each was run twice. One of them was a massive 50km long. Unfortunately, we struggled a lot during the both loop.

On today's first loop, we weren't able to push to the maximum as the road conditions were difficult and I couldn’t find the right feeling with the car.

On the second loop of the stages, we immediately got some alarms on the dashboard when we started to SS5. We had to face different electrical issues that caused the loss of power in the engine and we also lost the hybrid system.

On today's last stage SS7, the water pump stopped working due to these electrical troubles and we were really considering to park up the car, but luckily it came back to alive and we were able to finish the day.

Despite the issues we had to face today, we will keep going and we know that Sardinia is full of surprises, so nothing is over before the rally is finished. We go and fight for what’s possible!

So problems straight after leaving service. If my memory serves correctly then it was also the case in Portugal

[Katvala]

Hey. That was long time ago.Now too there are several doing partial campaigns and in recent years.

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[EstWRC]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230603/30e4ce63c992bebb278915e766585204.jpg

[dimviii]

NEWS FROM THE SERVICE PARK
Pierre-Louis Loubet will not restart today.



A statement from his M-Sport Ford team said: Whilst repairing Pierre-Louis’ car after the accident on SS7 yesterday, more damage was discovered than anticipated. The team has therefore made the difficult decision to retire the car from the event.

[EstWRC]

Loubet is not starting

[TypeR]

So after this morning loop they all must be out of softs..?

E: so sht news for Tanak.. again. Starting second again

[meh]

So after this morning loop they all must be out of softs..?

They can reuse already used ones or use already used ones later.

edit: for example, Neuville just confirmed at the stage end interview that they took couple of user tires.

[EstWRC]

So after this morning loop they all must be out of softs..?

E: so sht news for Tanak.. again. Starting second again

Only rain can save him

Loubet not starting is weird to me. Wasn’t a big impact

[meh]

Okou. Watersplash at the end of stage. Ford is scared and shaking already.

[TypeR]

Okou. Watersplash at the end of stage. Ford is scared and shaking already.

That's why Loubet didn't start :D

[Tauri_J]

Weird. Estonian commentators were talking the whole day it will be wet tomorrow but I don’t know what meteo site they looked or where they got the info

Sometimes they are silly with their predictions (not only weather)

[dimviii]

LAPPI CHECKING AN OIL LEAK!

https://livecenterimagesnorth.azureedge.net/lc-images-2021/lcimg-09b5500e-21ec-46bd-be12-66c2b1022e9a.jpeg

[Tauri_J]

Oh dear Taka

[EstWRC]

Tänak has no pace whatsoever this weekend.

They are going backwards not onwards with the development atm

[TypeR]

Stupid mistake by Taka.. too fast into the water and damaged the front

[meh]

Rovanperä start showing his actual pace from more equal road position. How long cap to the podium or to the lead is "safe"?

edit: not the case at the moment, Neuville faster on (some) splits.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Splits not working on wrc.com

[EstWRC]

And Ogier takes the lead again

[Kras]

Loubet not restarting is weird

[Tauri_J]

Loubet not restarting is weird

More damage than expected

[Oliverk]

More damage than expected

Yes, hitting a bush 10kmph would absolutely destroy Ford.

[meh]

Yes, hitting a bush 10kmph would absolutely destroy Ford.

I guess that hitting a bush was already a result of the problem not the reason itself.

[Tauri_J]

Yes, hitting a bush 10kmph would absolutely destroy Ford.

I guess you know better through your TV screen than Ford mechanics.

[Rallyper]

I guess you know better through your TV screen than Ford mechanics.

Kids.

[EstWRC]

Tha way Rossel always talks sounds he is crying or about to cry

[Tauri_J]

Is Taka moving or already on next stage?

[TypeR]

Is Taka moving or already on next stage?

moving, but between Rossell and Suninen on the map..

[meh]

Is Taka moving or already on next stage?

He is moving towards next stage, or at least somewhere.

[Katvala]

Yes, hitting a bush 10kmph would absolutely destroy Ford.Thanks for a laugh in the morning

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[TypeR]

most likely Katsuta will be late to start, seems like stopped again.
https://www.upload.ee/image/15299541/katsuta.jpg

[meh]

Early days, but... Lappi is afraid to do "saturday crash" again, he does not have road position advantage anymore over Ogier and need to push harder, if he stays 2nd then it's team-order danger to give position to Neuville... quite some weight to carry. And maybe Rovanperä is getting to the came with some crazy times as well.

[meh]

Katsuta retired for today. (from All-live)

[Sergiow]

Awaiting the cars at the Tempio Pausania stage. Very sunny, no clouds at all but misty around the moumtains. Stage is still humid

[meh]

and Ford is dead again after after. Tänak crossed the finish line in hybrid mode I think

Another up-to 30sec lost and we don't know can he continue.

[EstWRC]

This is utterly ridiculous, just utterly ridiculous


He was catching Evans and nothing now again

[Eli]

I don’t understand, you put these expensive plug-in hybrid system on the cars, you get to the stage end, and you can’t hear them since the engine is working, and they can (hardly) hear the questions. Why bother? So many stupid decisions in this sport it’s mind boggling.

[Tauri_J]

Ok time to call it quits. Enough of this shitty Ford

[Eli]

As NOT would say at this point, with all due respect to Malcolm and M-Sport, a real “village team”.

[EstWRC]

Ok time to call it quits. Enough of this shitty Ford

I just don’t have any words

How can the car be so fragile

[TypeR]

lift the pedal a bit, maybe lose 1-2s and all good. I wouldn't 100% blame the car here at the moment.

[Rallyest]

To conclude this stage - Hyundai still moving after falling down few meters from a cliff, Toyota is completely ok after driving over and against a cliff, and Ford... Ford is loosing power when sees water.

edit: Sordo's car: https://twitter.com/DirtFishRally/status/1664568942751363072 , https://twitter.com/OfficialWRC/status/1664565239411515392

So this suits today also, exept ford dies when sees water now

[Rallyper]

Where is the rainy day?

[Rallyper]

So this suits today also, exept ford dies when sees water now

Well, should be Toyota 1 - Ford 1 ...

[cali]

I just don’t have any words

How can the car be so fragileThis time around not cars fault, he hit this watersplash too aggressively.

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[meh]

Tänak is still stopped and have not moved forward.

[EstWRC]

lift the pedal a bit, maybe lose 1-2s and all good. I wouldn't 100% blame the car here at the moment.

How much faster he was coming then than others?

IMO these things still shouldn’t happen

Ott is still standing after the stage

[cali]

Yep, if it took too much water then the engine will not start. It's a big possibility.

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[Rallyest]

So this suits today also, exept ford dies when sees water now

Also good luck in Kenya to Ott and Pierre

[cali]

How much faster he was coming then than others?

IMO these things still shouldn’t happen

Ott is still standing after the stageLooking by the live pictures others didn't splash the water as he did. And it's not always about speed, but maybe braking too late, nose too down, entering the watersplash with a wrong angle etc.

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[EstWRC]

Tanak still not moving. This is worrying

[EstWRC]

Looking by the live pictures others didn't splash the water as he did. And it's not always about speed, but maybe braking too late, nose too down, entering the watersplash with a wrong angle etc.

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Dunno. Hyundais splash also a lot

[cali]

Tanak still not moving. This is worryingBut expected result as the engine could have taken a real big damage from this

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[TypeR]

retirement it is probably.. rather ok points gone also

[cali]

Dunno. Hyundais splash also a lotCan't always blame the car. As soon as I saw and the way he entered the splash my first thought was that "holy crap it's looking bad"

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[jonkka]

And again lead changes hands...

[cali]

And also really nice fight in WRC2

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[meh]

Tänak has not moved forward for 40min, I smell retirement here.

[EstWRC]

Can't always blame the car. As soon as I saw and the way he entered the splash my first thought was that "holy crap it's looking bad"

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Yesterday Loubet said he had power loss after every water splash

But let’s wait for the comments afterwards

[Rallyper]

Suninen quite lost as well...

[meh]

Tänak has not moved 50+min and no-mention or detection from ALL-live team - it's quite impressive as well

I think it's time to create one tiny river to M-Sport testing ground England.

edit: now live stream Tänak working on car, but it's at least 20min to start to the stage and he pretty much need to start the stage now (in 3min).

[Ds3]

I don’t understand, you put these expensive plug-in hybrid system on the cars, you get to the stage end, and you can’t hear them since the engine is working, and they can (hardly) hear the questions. Why bother? So many stupid decisions in this sport it’s mind boggling.

This sport is for smart people, after a 20km high-speed section to shut down the engine at 300-700 degrees turbo temperature and other things is simply suicide of the technique. If you don't like it, watch CHESS...

[dimviii]

to shut down the engine at 300-700 degrees turbo temperature.

900-1000 i would say.

[CeskyOndra]

In the weather forecast there is now even more rain than yesterday

[meh]

Quite bad for Rovanperä as well - fighting to get better position on Friday and now Loubet, Takamoto and Tänak are not cleaning road anymore, Sordo takes it easy so basically he has 1.5cars before him to clean the road and has again quite some disadvantage.

And stage delayed..

[dimviii]

another rally where Neuville is super fast at Saturday,and not so fast at Friday.
seems 90% of his rallies are like this.

[TypeR]

Fourmaux best Ford now :D

[EstWRC]

Fourmaux best Ford now :D

Still….

[Eli]

This sport is for smart people, after a 20km high-speed section to shut down the engine at 300-700 degrees turbo temperature and other things is simply suicide of the technique. If you don't like it, watch CHESS...

I know the engine and other components are at a very high temperature, I’m fully aware of that, it just seems the hybrid system (as many people said here before) is’t contributing to anything but the weight & the cost for these cars.

[meh]

Evans's Toyota also took too much water and got some (at least temporary) misfire, anyway, losing time to Sordo.

Rovanperä has now 0.5 + 0.5 road cleaners.

[rage82]

Gronholm will be commentating on the next stage. Always so fun to hear him.

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[TypeR]

2 guys retired because of watersplash..
Evans:,,hold my beer, won't happen to me''

[meh]

eem, Rovanperä 2.3sec slower than Sordo in 1st split...

[EstWRC]

Seems like a Hyundai stage

[meh]

Maybe Sordo just went for it, Neuville is also slower than Sordo

[ferrial]

Replay footage showed that there was no big water over the bonnet of Tänak's car...

[EstWRC]

They just showed the Ott water splash from outside cam on Estonian tv and it wasn’t aggressive at all. Came through nicely

[meh]

Confirmed game over for Tänak:
https://twitter.com/OfficialWRC/status/1664911985262096386

[becher]

I know the engine and other components are at a very high temperature, I’m fully aware of that, it just seems the hybrid system (as many people said here before) is’t contributing to anything but the weight & the cost for these cars.
Thats what an electric motor generally does in motorsport. What did all the rally people except? ThT the batteries start dancing at the stage end?

[dimviii]

Confirmed game over for Tänak:
https://twitter.com/OfficialWRC/status/1664911985262096386

if the engine has damage,he will not restart=no power stage points

[TypeR]

seems like 3 watersplashes and 3 retired rally1 cars..

Kalle: ,,these mickey-mouse sh1t is horrible, I hate these kind of stages..''

:D

[Rallyper]

Thats what an electric motor generally does in motorsport. What did all the rally people except? ThT the batteries start dancing at the stage end?

Maybe that evolution, development of EV´s doesn´t belong to rallying? Rallying is with ordinary engines...

[meh]

Rovanperä: "this kind of micky mouse shit I don't like"

https://twitter.com/KalleRovanpera/status/1664916007666831361

[EstWRC]

They just showed the Ott water splash from outside cam on Estonian tv and it wasn’t aggressive at all. Came through nicely

Damn can’t find the vid on Twitter or anywhere. I hope it leaks

[meh]

Interesting times on SS10, there is no pattern on road position or cars. Sordo from 1st on the road and Ogier as late-runner are showing way better times than others.

Neuville really surprised to lose that much.

[dimviii]

DAVID EVANS
Evans has lost the sump guard and losing a lot of water

[Rallyper]

DAVID EVANS
Evans has lost the sump guard and losing a lot of water

Game over then...?

[TypeR]

Ogier 14.5s faster than Neuville and 13s faster than Lappi, Ogier taking the lead again

[Eli]

Now puncture for Lappi….

[meh]

So, Sordo will be on 5th position soon? :)

[EstWRC]

Fourmaux smashing it

[TypeR]

if Fourmaux continues like that I believe he will get a drive in rally1 this year..
what a pace on this stage.. 20.4s faster than Mikkelsen

e: Evans moving on map

seems like made it to the start on time after all

[Dontcut]

if Fourmaux continues like that I believe he will get a drive in rally1 this year..
what a pace on this stage.. 20.4s faster than Mikkelsen
Yeah, Fourmaux switch with Loubet seems to happen soon.

[meh]

Yeah, Fourmaux switch with Loubet seems to happen soon.

Hold your submarines, we have half or rally to go and Fourmaux is not finished yet either.

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen must have some kind of problem

[meh]

Mikkelsen must have some kind of problem

yes, small balls.

Or on more polite way - he is so afraid to crash or make mistakes that he backs off a lot. He excused himself that Fourmaux probably took massive risks.

[1988senna]

Ogier 14.5s faster than Neuville and 13s faster than Lappi, Ogier taking the lead again

really don't understand this stage result if Lappi is puncture, how about rov and nev why the two also 10 seconds slower , no rain , no issue what happened

[TypeR]

Evans made it to the start, I wonder if he broke any speed limits on road :D

[dimviii]

I saw similar time with Kajto and Rossel,and thought that.

[Rallyper]

Fourmaux 1,5 secs faster than Oliver on the three first stages today.

[TypeR]

Evans managed to roll thru, +38s to Sordo

[meh]

On the positive note, we can see more Rally2 cars...

[Tanelv]

Maybe that evolution, development of EV´s doesn´t belong to rallying? Rallying is with ordinary engines...
How so? TBH it seems the other way round. The ICE part is the one causing trouble and failing and using EV tech is much more reliable (no issues with watersplashes for example).

[EstWRC]

Ott Tänak
@OttTanak
·
59s
1/1 Unfortunately we have to retire for the day. Very close end to the SS9 finish, there was a water splash and after driving through it, the car stalled and we faced some electrical issues, which were something that we couldn’t fix on the road section.

2/2 The team will bring the car back to the service and will take a closer look and hopefully we are able to continue tomorrow.

[jonkka]

On the positive note, we can see more Rally2 cars...

Meaning I can switch off quicker.

[Kras]

Ford should invest money or just quit rally1.
As it is, this is just bad press for them.

[meh]

Gronholm: "I have always said.. it the Saturday comes... you need to... start... driving."

[Rallyper]

How so? TBH it seems the other way round. The ICE part is the one causing trouble and failing and using EV tech is much more reliable (no issues with watersplashes for example).

No answer needed...

[meh]

Pajari - rear right damaged (wheel hanging)

[becher]

Maybe that evolution, development of EV´s doesn´t belong to rallying? Rallying is with ordinary engines...

You have a point in as far as racing does provide something for hybrids. If someone is recharging in a battle in a race it gives something to show and talk about, in rallying (a time trail) those situations don't exist so you don't get does opportunities to show and talk.

[skarderud]

Meaning I can switch off quicker.Meaning that you are not a rally fan....

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[TypeR]

What happened to Solberg? +3min

[AnttiL]

What happened to Solberg? +3min

Puncture

[NOT]

the sport is laughably dead... lol

[AnttiL]

Meaning that you are not a rally fan....

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There are no right or wrong ways to be a rally fan.

[AnttiL]

No answer needed...

Because you were wrong? Katsuta damaged the radiator (related to ICE), Tänak electrical system of the car (not related to the hybrid box) and Evans again the ICE.

[EstWRC]

Outside cam of Tänak through that water splash

https://youtube.com/shorts/n5IOFaFTkRI?feature=share

Meh……….

[dimviii]

Outside cam of Tänak through that water splash

https://youtube.com/shorts/n5IOFaFTkRI?feature=share

Meh……….

i can say he was slow through the splash...

[Sulland]

What happened to Solberg? +3min

dont know, but timewise it looks like a pucture that he swapped in stage.

[Rallyper]

Because you were wrong? Katsuta damaged the radiator (related to ICE), Tänak electrical system of the car (not related to the hybrid box) and Evans again the ICE.

I´m not discussing which parts brake down or not. I talk about EV´s in rallying generally.

[skarderud]

There are no right or wrong ways to be a rally fan.If you turn of after the wrc1, not bother to watch wrc2, witch by the way is much more interesting these days, you are not a rally fan.
Maybe motorsport interrested, but not a fan.


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[Kras]

Outside cam of Tänak through that water splash

https://youtube.com/shorts/n5IOFaFTkRI?feature=share

Meh……….

Im not sure if its even possible to cross that water splash any cleaner than that...

[denkimi]

Outside cam of Tänak through that water splash

https://youtube.com/shorts/n5IOFaFTkRI?feature=share

Meh……….
He was more than carefull enough. This is clearly an issue with the Ford.

[seb_sh]

If you turn of after the wrc1, not bother to watch wrc2, witch by the way is much more interesting these days, you are not a rally fan.
Maybe motorsport interrested, but not a fan.


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No true Scotsman...

[dimviii]

Sébastien Ogier has been given a reprimand and a suspended €1000 fine following an incident which occurred at the fourth refueling zone earlier on Saturday in Sardinia.

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/ogier-reprimanded-for-refueling-breach/

[seb_sh]

Sébastien Ogier has been given a reprimand and a suspended €1000 fine following an incident which occurred at the fourth refueling zone earlier on Saturday in Sardinia.

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/ogier-reprimanded-for-refueling-breach/

He keeps messing up on road sections.

[dimviii]

Evans trying to fix the leak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=637&v=tRGYsXN6afE&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fdirtfish.com%2 F&source_ve_path=Mjg2NjY&feature=emb_logo

[SubaruNorway]

Do they have the intake valve on this event? It's clearly flooded with water from the sound of it

[TWRC]

Do they have the intake valve on this event? It's clearly flooded with water from the sound of it

Toyota has a weird small scoop in their engine bay, not sure if its new or not, pics I found on the net suggests it was not there last year on tarmac events:
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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ott Tänak @OttTanak

The Puma just arrived back to the service park. @MSportLtd boys and girls will investigate what’s the issue and hopefully we are able to continue tomorrow.

[meh]

Ogier scooped too much water and got temporary misfire, some timeloss and makes thing more interesting.

[Rallyper]

Not even him learned anything?

[SubaruNorway]

Toyota has a weird small scoop in their engine bay, not sure if its new or not, pics I found on the net suggests it was not there last year on tarmac events:
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I see so when they push the bonnet up on the Toyota it fills it with water anyway like Ogier now

[manthey]

Ogier scooped too much water and got temporary misfire, some timeloss and makes thing more interesting.And said he took "easy"...

[TypeR]

Occasionally ruts are full of water.. cool conditions to watch rally :)

[meh]

Sordo just lost power randomly and was stopped was some time, no watersplash involved.

And all-live reported heavy rain on the next stage.

[Rallyper]

Sordo stopped briefly. Some electrical issues for him...

[meh]

Evans took water again, now at the same place where Tänak previously. At the moment continues as trolleybus (read: in EV mode)

[TypeR]

wtf.. Evans again in a watersplash..



Neuville full rain at the end of stage

[meh]

huge rain now for Neuville on the stage

[Lead]

Will there be cars left tomorrow for power stage to watch?

[TypeR]

Will there be cars left tomorrow for power stage to watch?

Rally2 car on overall podium not impossible :D

[Rallyper]

Now it gets exciting!!!!

[meh]

Ogier got tempeorary watersplash problems again, lost 12sec to Neuville.

I hope Ogier continues, otherwise it may be situation freeze from Hyndai and we can see some cruising fest.

[Rallyper]

High tec rallycars doesn´t like heavy rain, it seems.

[EstWRC]

Neuville will win this

[Scaha]

Could be but I would love to see Lappi to take this. :)

[skarderud]

Neuville will bin this.

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[TypeR]

Raining from the start of the stage already

[meh]

Ogier off.

Hanging over side of the road, quite in the beginning of the stage

[Rallyper]

Pressure gets even him kind of like the others.

[TypeR]

I would say this decided Ogier's will to fight for the title..

[meh]

Ogier got tempeorary watersplash problems again, lost 12sec to Neuville.

I hope Ogier continues, otherwise it may be situation freeze from Hyndai and we can see some cruising fest.

I guess now there is freeze. Neuville on the stage does not know that Ogier went off, Lappi knows.

Evans and Rovanperä both 30+ slower than Sordo.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Bet Lappi couldn't believe his eyes seeing Ogier off !

[TypeR]

Lappi nowhere at this stage..

[elmerim]

With Ogier out also went all the changes for Lappi's win.

[seb_sh]

just got back home, seems everything has flipped :o

[EstWRC]

what i said, Neuville will win this

Kalle now in 3rd, the gap in championship with Tänak over 30 points already

[meh]

Pressure gets even him kind of like the others.

Again, we don't know the reason - from replay, car just did not turn. Was it driver mistake, misjudgement of road condition, technical failure - we don't know

[meh]

Fourmaux comes with the same tempo like Evans

[Rallyper]

Toyota must forget this rally.

[CeskyOndra]

What a rally so far

[becher]

eWRC is down, everyone busy checking times?!

[meh]

Lappi: "When I saw Seb (off the road) it was clear you don't fight, it was easy decision to back off"

So, common sense and/or preplanted team-orders in place

[TypeR]

That was harsh..

,,If I saw Seb, then I knew everything is done and I backed off..''


I still hope for his win!!

[EstWRC]

it was sad to see Lappi saying that

i can tell you this doesnt pay off to play for Neuville, we have seen it for 10 years already

[Rallyper]

it was sad to see Lappi saying that

i can tell you this doesnt pay off to play for Neuville, we have seen it for 10 years already

What? He´s just realistic to his job and his team.

[elmerim]

EP also said to Janne right after flying finish "no worth trying cause we're not allowed to win anyway". Which was why alll the changes for EP win went after Ogier off.

[CeskyOndra]

I think that if Lappi wouldn't backed off, Neuville would still be quicker.

[Eli]

Toyota must forget this rally.

Last year Sardegna was also harsh for them, but we all saw how they bounced back in Kenya, pretty sure it will be like that this year too, maybe Tänak will make the Puma work for him for once and he'll win like McRae did back in 1999/2002.

[Danny0405]

Harsh for Ogier (and Lappi as a collateral damage) but globally good news for the championship if Hyundai converts the 1-2 with Rovanpera 3rd:
- would stop all the «*what if*» questions about the title if Ogier had made the full season (which meant nothing with the road position, ...)
- would give a new dynamic to Hyundai
- would close the gap in both driver and manufacturer championships between the 2 teams. Even if I think Toyota has some margin in the manufacturer championship with the possibility to have Ogier in last 4 rallies with probably a 6th road position in Greece.

[meh]

I'm a bit surpirsed that Kalle "when it's raining I feel like at home" Rovanperä was so far off the pace on last stage. Yes, not fighting clearly with anybody for some position, but still...

edit: probably keeping good tires for PowerStage

[meh]

What, Neuville 10sec faster than everyone on 1st split, they are just completely cruising or where Neuville is hurrying? Want to finish the day fast?

[EstWRC]

What, Neuville 10sec faster than everyone on 1st split, they are just completely cruising or where Neuville is hurrying? Want to finish the day fast?

He has new softs compared to others who took used ones

But must have sacrificed tomorrow a little there. Just 12 softs for the whole rally

[Kras]

I'm a bit surpirsed that Kalle "when it's raining I feel like at home" Rovanperä was so far off the pace on last stage. Yes, not fighting clearly with anybody for some position, but still...

edit: probably keeping good tires for PowerStage

It was hilarious how he claimed he was fastest because hes at home in the rain, when everyone behind him on that stage just had more rain to deal with

[meh]

Lappi is clearly disappointed with the situation, he can not fight for the win.

... but all is not lost yet, Neuville can surprise with some stupidity :)

[Kras]

Theres still a 50/50 chance Neuville will crash before this ends

[EstWRC]

Ogier explains https://youtu.be/Mc7Y8TpqgO4

[Lead]

25sec between Fourmaux and Mikkelsen at the end of the day. If not some issues tomorrow for Fourmaux, he can win this (and I hope he will).

[meh]

Ogier explains https://youtu.be/Mc7Y8TpqgO4

Respect to Dirtfish to reach the place and deliver the situation and the story. You can hear from Colin's breathing it was not easy walk.

Ogier: shoes were muddy and slipped when he tried to brake and it was too late for correction.

[EstWRC]

Last year Sardegna was also harsh for them, but we all saw how they bounced back in Kenya, pretty sure it will be like that this year too, maybe Tänak will make the Puma work for him for once and he'll win like McRae did back in 1999/2002.

heh, there was 5 Pumas in Kenya last year, all of them in super rally already after first day.

so i wouldnt be so hopeful

[TypeR]

Take these 5 or more guys + codriver and photo taker..
Open the trunk, jump on it to get weight on rear axle and pull at the same time..
In Finland this car would have been in top5 at the end of the day..
But silly mistake from Ogier(not first one) today.
https://www.upload.ee/image/15300891/WhatsApp-Image-2023-06-03-at-17.06.47.jpg

[ferrial]

M-Sport confirmed Tänak will restart tomorrow

[EstWRC]

M-Sport confirmed Tänak will restart tomorrow

Good news

Take no spares like Lappi in Portugal and just cruise until power stage and smash it

[Oliverk]

Good news

Take no spares like Lappi in Portugal and just cruise until power stage and smash it
Unfortunately they will ALL cruise tomorrow and save tires, positions. Mby not all without spares though.

[seb_sh]

Take these 5 or more guys + codriver and photo taker..
Open the trunk, jump on it to get weight on rear axle and pull at the same time..
In Finland this car would have been in top5 at the end of the day..
But silly mistake from Ogier(not first one) today.
https://www.upload.ee/image/15300891/WhatsApp-Image-2023-06-03-at-17.06.47.jpg

From the DF video it looked like it was in danger of going down edge if people jumped on it so not so sure about that.

[TypeR]

Fkin fia circus..

Although Gilsoul had his helmetstrap open for 50km.. he didn't get any penalty, coz they retired..
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/gilsoul-avoids-penalty-for-helmet-infringement/

[Eli]

I'm aware I've said this before, but this rally makes me miss Wales Rally GB a bit.

[EstWRC]

https://youtu.be/xO0SsRVP0xM

[Eli]

This isn't the most important thing, however: https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/1665079229086670851?s=20

[Myrvold]

Yeah, Fourmaux switch with Loubet seems to happen soon.

Especially based on 2022.

[becher]

This isn't the most important thing, however: https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/1665079229086670851?s=20
They'll do it regardless? Winning tax or something....

[rp]

It´s really Clerk Of the Course´s decision. Ridiculous! Due to safety concerns there is nothing else to do than rallying is not permitted anymore. Time to stop! #QuitWRC

[seb_sh]

so no donuts no jumping in the water no fun allowed it's like we're in school and then they wonder why it's unpopular

[J4MIE]

Obviously none of you have never organised any sort of event in that you have certain conditions imposed upon you. Maybe the harbour owners weren’t happy previously, maybe someone got into difficulty, maybe police or coastguard weren’t happy, maybe spectators came along in days or weeks afterwards and did the same and caused all sorts of problems, maybe there is all sorts of rubbish and oil in the water which you really don’t want to swallow….

It’s not necessarily just spoiling the fun.

[J4MIE]

Fkin fia circus..

Although Gilsoul had his helmetstrap open for 50km.. he didn't get any penalty, coz they retired..
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/gilsoul-avoids-penalty-for-helmet-infringement/

So you would give Loubet a 1 minute penalty then?

[AnttiL]

Obviously none of you have never organised any sort of event in that you have certain conditions imposed upon you. Maybe the harbour owners weren’t happy previously, maybe someone got into difficulty, maybe police or coastguard weren’t happy, maybe spectators came along in days or weeks afterwards and did the same and caused all sorts of problems, maybe there is all sorts of rubbish and oil in the water which you really don’t want to swallow….

It’s not necessarily just spoiling the fun.

Also notice that we are now in Olbia, previous water jumps happened in Alghero (except 2021)

[drive]

This year finish podium not in the port, some distance from service park, its realy shallow waters close to the podium - but still they could have a dive near service park yacht harbour i hope 😀

[drive]

Obviously none of you have never organised any sort of event in that you have certain conditions imposed upon you. Maybe the harbour owners weren’t happy previously, maybe someone got into difficulty, maybe police or coastguard weren’t happy, maybe spectators came along in days or weeks afterwards and did the same and caused all sorts of problems, maybe there is all sorts of rubbish and oil in the water which you really don’t want to swallow….

It’s not necessarily just spoiling the fun.
Nothing to do with port, just podium 500m away from proper harbour... close to podium its no place to dive, you have to GO to water not jump... or broke you bones... but they could do it near service park i hope 😀

[Andre Oliveira]

Lindholm not on sunday start list. What happened?

[seb_sh]

Ok useless health and safety bulletin got it

[TypeR]

Sordo and Lappi fined 200 euros for not wearing gloves at the stop control of SS14/15

[Rally Hokkaido]

Sordo and Lappi fined 200 euros for not wearing gloves at the stop control of SS14/15

Next they will start fining drivers who loosen their belts after the FF!
Big brother is watching! I think I might be tempted to accidentally disable the in-car camera if I was a WRC1 crew member.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Ogier in power stage tyre saving mode or....?

EDIT: Well, Kalle must be!

[EstWRC]

Ogier in power stage tyre saving mode or....?

Of course. Where he has to hurry? They all are in saving mode

I don’t get it why Tänak pushed so much

[AnttiL]

Nothing to do with port, just podium 500m away from proper harbour... close to podium its no place to dive, you have to GO to water not jump... or broke you bones... but they could do it near service park i hope ��

No, I'm sure this concerns the actual podium in the service park. Drivers wouldn't jump in the sea at the end of power stage and then drive to service park with wet overalls.

I checked that the 2021 podium and service park was in a different part of Olbia than this year so maybe that explains it. Maybe shallower water there?

[rp]

Lindholm not on sunday start list. What happened?

mechanical problem