Acropolis Rally Greece 2022 (8-11 Sep)

[EstWRC]

Ott with no hybrid

So the whole day then with no service ….great

[Tauri_J]

Breen again smh

[EstWRC]

Thierry on a mission. Wants the win

Not much left of it in the end. Used tyres

[dimviii]

Neuville,Tanak,Evans with more time gained to Kalle from first pass

[Eli]

Breen again smh

Puncture, lost just over 2 minutes overall.

[denkimi]

Ott with no hybrid
He claims he has no hybrid, his time proves otherwise.

[EstWRC]

Wow Lappi and Loeb splits

[MartijnS]

They are running on 4 minute gaps on stage 3 and 4 this morning. Not 3 minutes.

[Tom K]

So the whole day then with no service ….great

It's hybrid. I won't be surprised if it is OK on the next stage. Katsuta had off and on couple of times in Ypres, without service.

[Tauri_J]

You know its cleaning up a lot when Gus is this fast.

[dimviii]

Loeb and Neuville -20 sec from morning pass

[dimviii]

You know its cleaning up a lot when Gus is this fast.
Togather with cleaning coming and stones.

[Eli]

Did anyone catch what Breen said there at the end?

[jonkka]

Did anyone catch what Breen said there at the end?

From transcript:

"I don't know. I seem to be getting it all at this point."

[seb_sh]

Loubet is only 8s off the lead, i think what we see at the moment is misleading.

[Danny0405]

Loubet is only 8s off the lead, i think what we see at the moment is misleading.

Yeah and the gaps are still quite close at the moment
Think it will be a great battle this afternoon to achieve good road position for tomorrow

[jiipee64]

Did anyone catch what Breen said there at the end?

Four single letters.

[AnttiL]

Did anyone catch what Breen said there at the end?

I think he referred his favourite Van Halen album, For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge.

[doubled1978]

I think he referred his favourite Van Halen album, For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge.

I feel for him, after what has gone before he didn’t need to be the one to get a puncture this early.
I’m sure there will be others, but getting it today means his road position for day2 is knackered.

[TypeR]

Seems like hybrid not working for Tänak, HY gauge not moving

[EstWRC]

Boost still didn’t seem to work for Ott

[er88]

Cleaning on this stage could be huge

[Tauri_J]

He claims he has no hybrid, his time proves otherwise.

Obviously you know better

[EstWRC]

Cmon Ott lets hold Evans behind you, crucial for tomorrow, the gaps going quite big slowly with the leaders

[denkimi]

Obviously you know better
If they lose less than 0,1s/km if they don't have hybrid, they are better not to install it at all. The reduction in weight would make them a lot faster than the hybrid system.
He is exactly where one would expect him to due to road cleaning, between neuville and rovanpera. Just like he was this morning.
So if his hybrid is not working, that can only mean that it is not doing little to nothing since he is not noticeable slower.

[EstWRC]

If they lose less than 0,1s/km if they don't have hybrid, they are better not to install it at all. The reduction in weight would make them a lot faster than the hybrid system.
He is exactly where one would expect him to due to road cleaning, between neuville and rovanpera. Just like he was this morning.
So if his hybrid is not working, that can only mean that it is not doing little to nothing since he is not noticeable slower.

cmon man, you could see it from the graphics it wasnt working, the battery level didnt go lower and the regen leveler didnt work

Ott is known to be very good when the grip is low so no surprise he still showing good times

[TypeR]

If they lose less than 0,1s/km if they don't have hybrid, they are better not to install it at all. The reduction in weight would make them a lot faster than the hybrid system.
He is exactly where one would expect him to due to road cleaning, between neuville and rovanpera. Just like he was this morning.
So if his hybrid is not working, that can only mean that it is not doing little to nothing since he is not noticeable slower.

It also depends a lot about the stage..
If the display shows it isn't working and he says it isn't working..

I'm sure he doesn't need to make up random issues, they have enough things to focus.

[meh]

Loubet is only 8s off the lead, i think what we see at the moment is misleading.

Told previously - friday heroes, take road position into account. But... He still need to be a man and USE the road position advantage, so good job anyway.

edit: Respect for SS5 stagewin and taking the rally lead :)

[er88]

Silly mistake from Loeb. That could be costly come the end of the weekend - losing 6.6s on a stage he probably would've won due to the massive road cleaning in here

[Tauri_J]

If they lose less than 0,1s/km if they don't have hybrid, they are better not to install it at all. The reduction in weight would make them a lot faster than the hybrid system.
He is exactly where one would expect him to due to road cleaning, between neuville and rovanpera. Just like he was this morning.
So if his hybrid is not working, that can only mean that it is not doing little to nothing since he is not noticeable slower.

Hybrid is mandatory

[EstWRC]

Loubet the GOAT!

great performance

[er88]

So happy for Loubet! Go on son

[dimviii]

Silly mistake from Loeb. That could be costly come the end of the weekend - losing 6.6s on a stage he probably would've won due to the massive road cleaning in here

Must have lost about 10 sec

[Tauri_J]

Amazing job by Loubet

[meh]

Tänak-Sordo-Evans will have huge fight for tomorrow's start position. Actually, really sad for Rovenperä and Tänak, they can make most epic drives but cleaning effect shows it as some leaping snail effort.

[Esko]

As expected very difficult Friday for Kalle with heavy cleaning effect. Loubet uses his position nicely.

[Esko]

Interesting to see if Lindholm with WRC2 car can beat Rovanpera at this stage

[Esko]

Interesting to see if Lindholm with WRC2 car can beat Rovanpera at this stage
Yes he did by 0,2 sec

[EstWRC]

M-sport has won all todays stages so far, ok one shared with Lappi

[dimviii]

Ingram off road

[eib1]

Gary Boyd KiwiWRCfan
@KiwiWRCfan
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35m
When was the last time a #WRC driver took the rally lead when they had their first #WRC stage win ?

[er88]

Gary Boyd KiwiWRCfan
@KiwiWRCfan
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35m
When was the last time a #WRC driver took the rally lead when they had their first #WRC stage win ?Ogier in GB?

[Eli]

Are we going to see the stage or just glide through until the end of day?

[meh]

Some mess with WRC-Live? Stage is long time on but those 2 are just talking there in the service park...

[seb_sh]

Some mess with WRC-Live? Stage is long time on but those 2 are just talking there in the service park...

The airplane is not there yet so they don't have the onboards.

[Eli]

Some mess with WRC-Live? Stage is long time on but those 2 are just talking there in the service park...

An absolute joke, like their whole supposedly all-live service.

[TypeR]

Total crap live

Let Becs tell splits at least..

Amateurs, again and again.

[er88]

All-Live reverting back to Not-All-Live

[meh]

Now we need to hope, that M-Sport guys are not too hyped and can keep cars on the road.

[Eli]

At least later on they’d compensate and at the very least show us the stage end interviews but in NOT’s words they’re worst than the worst village team.

[er88]

Neuville on a charge if splits are correct

[seb_sh]

The top two Fords are an "old mercenary" and a customer driver. Without them the top Ford is Greensmith in 8th, would be 6th if you ignore the first two. Just saying.

[Tauri_J]

I have a prediction that none of the msport drivers Will finish on podium.

[TypeR]

Alreqdy only half an hour later ,,allLIVE'' started

[Jewy46]

Such a pity for Craig and Paul. They would be right in the fight only for the puncture.

Incredibly frustrating they seem to be the only crew to have found trouble so far.

[er88]

Lappi stretching his legs. Let's see what he does compared to Loeb & Loubet

[EstWRC]

i dont remember the last time i saw such a huge gaps on stages

mega cleaning

[er88]

Sordo been very underwhelming

Yet is still 5th

[meh]

Tänak-Sordo-Evans will have huge fight for tomorrow's start position. Actually, really sad for Rovenperä and Tänak, they can make most epic drives but cleaning effect shows it as some leaping snail effort.

and now... I even don't believe it myself... but I need to write that ... Greensmith (!) ... may just take 10sec per stage from them. F*ck that cleaning, I can understand Ogier's whining in this situation.

[er88]

Why the fuck are they showing Jourdan (no disrespect) when Loubet is flying

[EstWRC]

Gus took 10 sec out of Ott and just 1.9 behind Ott and 2.4 behind Evans in overall

[dimviii]

What a comment from Maestro...
No excuses,just Lappi drove faster.

[EstWRC]

great job from Loubet, you have to use this chances and he is using it, Tänak already 33 seconds down and Rovanperä 52, even Neuville 16 down

[AnttiL]

What a great performance from Loubet again

[dimviii]

and now... I even don't believe it myself... but I need to write that ... Greensmith (!) ... may just take 10sec per stage from them. F*ck that cleaning, I can understand Ogier's whining in this situation.

Relax mate,always was like that,nothing new.

[AnttiL]

i dont remember the last time i saw such a huge gaps on stages



Remember Estonia power stage? Safari Saturday afternoon? Croatia Sunday?

[AnttiL]

Such a pity for Craig and Paul. They would be right in the fight only for the puncture.



They would be fighting for 5th place with Sordo.

[cali]

Remember Estonia power stage? Safari Saturday afternoon? Croatia Sunday?
2 out of those were affected by the rain but still, yes, not so long ago.

[EstWRC]

2 out of those were affected by the rain but still, yes, not so long ago.

exactly,

i mean the first day of the rally where there is such a cleaning effect, safari saturday afternoon also isnt really comparable for me, Safari SS2 is something similar that we just saw on Greece SS6

[Tauri_J]

Tänak's on it

[meh]

Tänak's on it

this is the fight of the tiny chance to do something tomorrow. If tomorrow's start-position is again crap, then it's basically game over for this rally.

[EstWRC]

What a stage from Tänak without hybrid

[denkimi]

What a stage from Tänak without hybrid
Lol. You still believe that? He better shuts it down for the rest of the rally then, it makes him faster.

[TypeR]

Lol. You still believe that? He better shuts it down for the rest of the rally then, it makes him faster.
Oh, ffs.


He would be even faster then.

[EstWRC]

Lol. You still believe that? He better shuts it down for the rest of the rally then, it makes him faster.

Yeah yeah he is lying and also made a deal with ALLIVE that they show that his hybrid is not working

What the hell is lately wrong with Neuville and his fans

[meh]

Loeb want to make clear who is the King / GOAT here :)

[TypeR]

Yeah yeah he is lying and also made a deal with ALLIVE that they show that his hybrid is not working

What the hell is lately wrong with Neuville and his fans
Didn't you see? Neuville lost, because he had to drive without gearbox..

[er88]

Goat

[TypeR]

Sordo could take 10s penalty to give Tänak better starting position, but.. he is very good friend with Neuville :)

[seb_sh]

A great day from Loubet. This year he has impressed me, not only with consistent scoring and controlled drives but also I think he is slowly improving. Of course he had massive help from the cleaning today but still he has to drive the car and use the advantage. If he continues improving he should absolutely get a full time drive next year.

[EstWRC]

A great day from Loubet. This year he has impressed me, not only with consistent scoring and controlled drives but also I think he is slowly improving. Of course he had massive help from the cleaning today but still he has to drive the car and use the advantage. If he continues improving he should absolutely get a full time drive next year.

Totally agree. He has been good this year

[cali]

Loeb want to make clear who is the King / GOAT here :)Ahh that's crystal clear from January already

EDIT: for me personally more than 10 years :)

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[macebig]

Loeb and Loubet won in one day as many stages as Breen, Fourmaux and Greensmith have won combined all year with the Puma (6). Definitely food for thought...🤔

[WRC1]

at least Serderidis is behind Breen...so he is not the slowest Puma....it´s time to say goodbye Mr. Breen.

[denkimi]

Yeah yeah he is lying and also made a deal with ALLIVE that they show that his hybrid is not working

What the hell is lately wrong with Neuville and his fans
Whatever you or he think is wrong it's not making him any slower. So either his hybrid also does nothing when it does works, or it worked just fine today despite the telemetrics showing something different.
I'll put my money faulty data transfer.

[Päss1928]

Whatever you or he think is wrong it's not making him any slower. So either his hybrid also does nothing when it does works, or it worked just fine today despite the telemetrics showing something different.
I'll put my money faulty data transfer.

You forgot the third possibility that everybody's hybrids aren't working (but are nevertheless sending data to all live).

[doubled1978]

I might have missed one, but this feels like the first time for a while that the guys towards the back of the start order have really taken advantage of it.
Really impressed with Loubet, after last year it would have been easy to completely write him off.
Loeb is just Loeb. I love that he still drives all these different cars and series, turns up and is still quick.
Personally I think Tanak still has a good chance to win. His recent form is so good, with a decent start position tomorrow I think he can still be a factor for the win.

[Myrvold]

Man. This year has just been a progressing journey. Last year it was in general very though to be a Pierre-Louis Loubet - fan. This year it's been something to cheer about!
Cannot remember the last time I actually did a small "YES!" shout during any kind of motorsport event, but today it happened. Hell Yeah! :D

[EstWRC]

M-sport won all stages today, one tied with lappi.

I knows it has a lot to do with cleaning but still great to see the team doing good after so many bad rallies

But okay, long way to go

[Danny0405]

Great day by Loeb and Loubet; especially important for Loubet as it was almost his last chance to show himself this year (Catalunya may be a bit harder against the top).
Difficult to assess for the rest, Katsuta is nowhere, Evans not really good and Kalle suffers but ok, he is still on the road.

In WRC-2, big day by Lindholm who crushes them all (well, except Mikkelsen but he is out); if he is able to go to the finish like this and even without making Japan, he may be the main competitor to Kajto for the end of the season, considering what he did in Catalunya last year. Rossel a bit disappointing today as in Ypres, not fully able to match the best guys.

In WRC-3 Junior, close fight between Virves and Armstrong until the last one where Armstrong lost 1m20s. Well, Virves has an option on the title if he is able to do it steady to the end but tomorrow will be VERY long so it’s far from done like in the other categories.

[er88]

at least Serderidis is behind Breen...so he is not the slowest Puma....it´s time to say goodbye Mr. Breen.Breen actually drove pretty well today I thought. That puncture was one of the unlucky ones (well the tyre of the rim)

[macebig]

Yeah, in fairness to Breen, without the puncture he could have been somewhere between the Hyundais, which is kinda OK under the circumstances.

[doubled1978]

Yeah I think without the puncture he would have been around Neuville, which would have been fine. Tomorrow will be a tough day for him.

[WRC1]

Breen actually drove pretty well today I thought. That puncture was one of the unlucky ones (well the tyre of the rim)

but is it really pure "bad luck" if out of 12 Rally1 Cars in 6 Gravel Stages HE is the only one who gets a puncture??

[hari]

Some pictures from Friday: https://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_wrc_acropolis_rallye_2022.html

https://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/acropolis2/1.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/acropolis2/4.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/acropolis2/5.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/acropolis2/3.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/acropolis2/2.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/acropolis2/11.jpg

[NOT]

just got back from a fantastic friday... i will not visit the rally tomorrow because i respect my self and i will not become a dog now... the organisers can shove the worthless stupid stages of tomorrow up their retarded asses.

the safety was very forgiving today thank god... so no cancellations.

i witnessed the biggest jump of my life today... and at the spot there were maybe 10-15 people and maybe 1 or 2 pros... the rest of the pros were probably taking pictures of flowers and logs and maybe a car on a hairpin... if the stage is included next year there are going to be x10 people there.

so from tomorrow i will follow the rally with you guys in here... lets see if you survive.

[NOT]

some unedited samples from today, full album sunday.

https://imgur.com/a/Js35Yml
https://imgur.com/a/pyow34V
https://imgur.com/a/IJCna9h
https://imgur.com/a/Aeh0c2p

this was the dust situation in loutraki....
https://imgur.com/a/zc9NtpY



in general the cars are equally fast as last year which is good, or at least its hard to find any huge differences in speed with naked eye.

tanak kalle neuville Loeb and Loubet were good, breen was overly agressive. the rest are smaller dogs.

huge improvement for Loubet in the ford in terms of speed to the spectator... Hyundai is a bad car, but veryy powerful probably the most powerful. i feel sorry for tanak and neuville.

[NOT]

lets see if Loeb and Loubet can hold on to podium places today... i do not think so but i would like so.

[EstWRC]

Quite a wake up for the drivers. 33km stage being the first

[cosmin_sb]

the long stage is starting, let see what will happen

[NOT]

Lets see if breen catches serderidis... 33km and they start that fat worthles dog first ?? breen might lose some time due to his dust towards the end

[Tauri_J]

Jeez Serderidis is hella slow.

[Tauri_J]

Lets see if breen catches serderidis... 33km and they start that fat worthles dog first ?? breen might lose some time due to his dust towards the end

At this pace I dont think Serderidis's car throws up any dust lol

[NOT]

wow its almost painful to watch serderidis... even that brazilian clown Nobre was better than this.

[Tauri_J]

Ott's hybrid working I guess

[Tauri_J]

Lot of cleaning for Serderidis :)

[NOT]

wow... serderidis complains that he cleans the road and loses a lot of time at the end...

thats why we need a filter on who can drive a wrc... delusional dog 10 seconds away from a heart attack has an opinion about road positions

[Tauri_J]

This is some vintage Tänak on this stage

[Tauri_J]

Loubet down 5.9 Split1 wow

[EstWRC]

Tänak is an animal this year

[Rally Hokkaido]

This long stage is going to turn the leaderboard upside down! (except for the GOAT)

[Tauri_J]

Lmao at Ott and Martin peeking at the timing board

[meh]

Watching this stage by Tänak, I almost can skip my morning coffee.

Any thoughts about not working hybrid, demkini? :)

[Tauri_J]

Neuville could beat Him though, ending is really really loose

[TypeR]

Tänak: ,,Hybrid is working''

Yea, right..




But except that.. he is stepping on Kalle's nerves and want to take the win and show that he is still fastest. There might still be some chance to get a lot points back as Kalle is very slow atm..

[EstWRC]

Neuville could beat Him though, ending is really really loose

Nope. Has lost even more to him with last split

[cali]

Tänak is an animal this yearCorrection, 2nd half of the year ;)

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[steve.mandzij]

i don't know whether to ask what happened to Hyundai or what happened to Toyota :D

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[NOT]

Loubet should focus on finishing top 4 on speed alone... great progress in his speed.

Loeb is best motorsport personality this world has seen so far.

[cali]

Papa Loeb, never ceases to amaze me (us)!

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[NOT]

I must say that wrc+ is worth the money 100%.. i purchased it for a month. I will definitely subscribe for the years to come.

[dimviii]

Papa Loeb, never ceases to amaze me (us)!

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Wasnt a Friday hero finally

[denkimi]

Watching this stage by Tänak, I almost can skip my morning coffee.

Any thoughts about not working hybrid, demkini? :)
Yes. With his working hybrid he has the same speed as yesterday without it, compared to neuville. Let's see how the rest of the day unfold, but so far no evidence of technical problems slowing him down yesterday.

[meh]

Loeb with some problems potentially, still at the end of the stage and tries to fix something...

[haris274]

Now they said in All Live that Loeb is changing altenator belt!!!

[Tauri_J]

I must say that wrc+ is worth the money 100%.. i purchased it for a month. I will definitely subscribe for the years to come.

Glad you were on the stages yesterday. We missed half of a stage because village broadcast team forgot to refuel the plane.

[Tauri_J]

Now they said in All Live that Loeb is changing altenator belt!!!

That was a wild guess and its an easy job.

My guess is brake problems.

[TypeR]

Yes. With his working hybrid he has the same speed as yesterday without it, compared to neuville. Let's see how the rest of the day unfold, but so far no evidence of technical problems slowing him down yesterday.
Funny guy :D

[EstWRC]

Yes. With his working hybrid he has the same speed as yesterday without it, compared to neuville. Let's see how the rest of the day unfold, but so far no evidence of technical problems slowing him down yesterday.

The same speed?

Thierry has better starting position today and had also yesterday but of course you don’t mention it

While Ott didn’t have hybrid yesterday he was slower on all stages except ss7, losing together 14 seconds to Neuville.

Now when hybrid is working he is right away faster than Neuville

[Tauri_J]

Kalle done?

[meh]

and Rovanperä with some issue and time-loss

[Tauri_J]

What a miserable weekend for him

[Eli]

and Rovanperä with some issue and time-loss

And no stage end reporter for us to know anything.

[Tauri_J]

Car breaker of a stage

[NOT]

rovanpera is out probably... GO TANAK YOU ANIMAL !!!

[Tauri_J]

Lol a buggy Toyota

[meh]

Rovenperä have had some proper crash, no rear end of the car to carry anymore

[bandit12]

Loeb still not moving?

[NOT]

very narrow and technical stage.. almost everyone had close calls.

[Tauri_J]

Loeb still not moving?
Still stranded

[EstWRC]

Tänak just 0.2 fastest than Breen

[NOT]

Milener should get the boot... worthless manager.

[jonkka]

Kalle's Yaris has some heavy damage to rear, entire back door and wing is missing.

EDIT: Image: https://www.wrc.com/?proxy=redaktion/Season-2022-News/WRC/September/kalle-damaagee.png

[NOT]

Tanak is going to win again.

[Tauri_J]

Tanak is going to win again.

Dont jinx it

[meh]

Tänak just 0.2 fastest than Breen

... and only 1.5sec faster than Greensmith in SS2. Does not look good.

[EstWRC]

... and only 1.5sec faster than Greensmith in SS2. Does not look good.

Shot his tyres?

The gap with Gus has remained the same

[Tauri_J]

... and only 1.5sec faster than Greensmith in SS2. Does not look good.
This is a car breaker stage, taking it easier hopefully

[NOT]

Kalle out... Loeb out... but the battle for the win is now on !!!

[meh]

Neuville 2sec faster than Tänak already in 1st split. I wonder did Tänak overcooked his tires and Neuville now gets benefits for carryng 2 spares?

[TypeR]

Tänak taking it safe(r) now I think.. second loop with 2 spares and going for the lead then

[Tauri_J]

Neuville on a Mission now

[SubaruNorway]

Loeb's belt might have split and jammed inside the pulleys also, hard to get out

[EstWRC]

Great time for Thierry

[NOT]

Fire Millener now... he managed to be worse than that clown adamo.

[meh]

Actually, we don't know how many guys got punctures. Loubet seems to have one.

[er88]

Milener should get the boot... worthless manager.It should really be discussed how bandit Msport are.

[Augury]

Loubet puncture possibly.

[NOT]

loubet problems...

[EstWRC]

Hyundai 1-2 after this one?

[meh]

seems to be 1-2-3 O/A for Hyundai after this stage.

edit: nope, Lappi is still there,

[denkimi]

The same speed?

Thierry has better starting position today and had also yesterday but of course you don’t mention it

While Ott didn’t have hybrid yesterday he was slower on all stages except ss7, losing together 14 seconds to Neuville.

Now when hybrid is working he is right away faster than Neuville
So you don't expect tanak to loose time being 2nd on the road in a rally where cleaning is massive?

Weird how people can follow rally for so long and still not see the obvious.

[Tauri_J]

Most eventful stage of the season and they dont have a stage end reporter. Village broadcast team!!

[EstWRC]

seems to be 1-2-3 O/A for Hyundai after this stage.

nope, Lappi is between

[EstWRC]

So you don't expect tanak to loose time being 2nd on the road in a rally where cleaning is massive?

Weird how people can follow rally for so long and still not see the obvious.

exactly the same with you

[NOT]

loubets tyre exploded... he could damage the suspension as well if he keeps going

[NOT]

I think i will apply for the position of end stage reporter to have coverage on every stage... what could possibly go wrong ?

[Augury]

Watching the maestro under the bonnet instead of driving on the stage, this is a disgrace.

[er88]

Loeb still scrambling about on that joke of a car

[er88]

Loeb calls it quits. Well done maestro

[jonkka]

I think i will apply for the position of end stage reporter to have coverage on every stage... what could possibly go wrong ?

With you, that would be world's easiest job. You could stay home and spew the sick dog kennel stories without ever visiting any stages at all.

[NOT]

Fire Milener now... he deserves to live in the streets feeding off dead rats.

[NOT]

With you, that would be world's easiest job. You could stay home and spew the sick dog kennel stories without ever visiting any stages at all.

well remote working is a thing nowadays so why not ?

[rp]

How it is possible that there is always alternator problems with M-Sport Ford (also earlier generation cars)! Don´t remember that the other teams has the same kind of issue. They were able enjoy the yestarday, but back to normal now. Time to withdraw or make some radical changes in the team.

[NOT]

hyundai should issue team orders and let tanak the animal win

[Tauri_J]

I have a prediction that none of the msport drivers Will finish on podium.

Still early though

[NOT]

How it is possible that there is always alternator problems with M-Sport Ford (also earlier generation cars)! Don´t remember that the other teams has the same kind of issue. They were able enjoy the yestarday, but back to normal now. Time to withdraw or make some radical changes in the team.

because thats what happens when you allow a never been heard of nobody run a team....

[denkimi]

Rovanpera is on his way again. Lets see if he can limp throuh the next stage.

[Tauri_J]

hyundai should issue team orders and let tanak the animal win

Neuville Will throw a tantrum

[SubaruNorway]

Not sure if they use Denso alternators but quite a lot of problems on the road cars also with both no charge and one way bearing pulleys breaking. Shame the rally ended up not so interesting in one stage, i will go and paint my garage now...

[er88]

Does Malcolm even care anymore? He's got his new fully funded race track (+whatever else he needs at the base), yet doesn't seem bothered he's overlooking what's becoming a joke of a rally team

[TypeR]

hyundai should issue team orders and let tanak the animal win

Neuville would rather quit driving than doing that :D

[NOT]

Does Malcolm even care anymore? He's got his new fully funded race track (+whatever else he needs at the base), yet doesn't seem bothered he's overlooking what's becoming a joke of a rally team

indeed.. he always makes decisions based on money in hsi pockets... from the 5 year plan of his useless son to having an errand boy from his company run the wrc team... just so he can have 4 inddor swimming pools instead of 3.

[EstWRC]

this is just, i dont even know the word how to explain, sad?

you have an very good car but you dont have the drivers to bring the results, and when you bring in a driver who can bring an amazing result your cars are having problem through the whole rally and Loeb has to retire at all

[NOT]

Milener just earned spot No1 in my most hated list...

[haris274]

The problem is not the altenator as a part... the problem is the belt mechanism like the normal cars, they don't have adjustment mechanism for the belts!

[meh]

Quite strong times from SS9 by Rally2 guys compared to Rally1. I wonder how much this road was cleaning or it was so slow stage that Rally1 car benefits didn't come to play that important role.

Proper statement for win by Neuville with this stage time.

It will be interesting media-zone for lunch to figure out, what the heck was going on there.

[EstWRC]

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Someone would be very rich if that stage had spectators

[EstWRC]

Kalle startin in front of Tänak? Really?

[Tauri_J]

Rovanpera's car literally running like a dog

[SubaruNorway]

The problem is not the altenator as a part... the problem is the belt mechanism like the normal cars, they don't have adjustment mechanism for the belts!

Some road cars have stretch belts also, can be a bit tricky to get back on and normally you need a tool for the alternator belt, AC you can use your fingers and turn the engine to put it on.

[flat_right]

This is crazy. If there is any dust problems for Ott, Ott's fans will go mad.

[Tauri_J]

Kalle startin in front of Tänak? Really?

Lets hope they're not playing games

[EstWRC]

This smells fishy to me. Why he had to start just in front of Tänak

[NOT]

Serderidis is legitimately retrded... that fat usless dog really thinks he can drive.

[Tauri_J]

This smells fishy to me. Why he had to start just in front of Tänak

Looks like 5 minute gap

[Tauri_J]

D!ck move from Kalle/Toyota

Yup, creating weird lines and dust maybe, but Im sure he'll stop

[EstWRC]

Seems Tänak cooked his tires on the long one

Just 0.2 faster than Gus in spl1

[flat_right]

sadly yes, and with one spare nothing to do.

[EstWRC]

And it seems Tänak will catch kalle after all

[Tauri_J]

Seems Tänak cooked his tires on the long one



I have other thoughts but we'll hear at stage end.

[TypeR]

And it seems Tänak will catch kalle after all

Will be interesting stage end interview.. :)

[meh]

Tänak 2.2 down on Greensmith at split2. Did Greensmith went grazy there or Tänak is carring some issue again or dust from Rovanperä ...

[Tauri_J]

Ott's down now, not good

[EstWRC]

I have other thoughts but we'll hear at stage end.

2.3 slower than Gus second split

[flat_right]

I have other thoughts but we'll hear at stage end.

One tyre is cooked and has to save those he has?

[krissucool]

He is driving in Rovanperäs dust, what can you expect.

[EstWRC]

Thierry just 0.4 faster than Ott in spls1

[Tauri_J]

Speed is on but losing time.

[EstWRC]

He is driving in Rovanperäs dust, what can you expect.

No dust from onboard.

And hybrid working

So it’s the tires

[meh]

From board camera, at least no dust issues from Rovanperä, so this is not the issue here.

[EstWRC]

Congrats Thierry

Made the right choice, the gap will be huge after this

Ott and his tyre choices once again

[flat_right]

Congrats Thierry

Made the right choice, the gap will be huge after this

Ott and his tyre choices once again

I have the same theory. But 2nd now and let's see.

[meh]

So here we go - already from previous stage, some differential issue for Tänak which is "eating" tires.

[Oliverk]

Congrats Thierry

Made the right choice, the gap will be huge after this

Ott and his tyre choices once again

You are wrong as always

[flat_right]

Okay, differential which causes tyre wear...

[Tauri_J]

But not directly tyres like I told. He's not a rookie who Will be destroying tyres when theres two long stages to go.

[meh]

Massive time from Neuville again, he is going to take the win for this one. If he will not do anything stupid... again.

[EstWRC]

You are wrong as always

Lol. Of course you are always smarter after the comments

That was just my guess before Ott’s comments

[Oliverk]

Lol. Of course you are always smarter after the comments

That was just my guess before Ott’s comments

Then stop guessing rubbish every time

[flat_right]

Then stop guessing rubbish every time

c'mon man... this is a forum for rally fans. We are here to discuss and guess if we don't have some correct info from the driver/team.
And he wasn't wrong... it was because of tyre wear (which was caused by differential).

[EstWRC]

Then stop guessing rubbish every time

You don’t tell others here what to do. Ffs

E: I don’t like certain users posts here too but I don’t write to them stop posting and etc

[TypeR]

cmon Lappi, stop being such an as.s at stage end interviews..
You took overall 2nd place back and act like a crybaby..

,,Oh you better tell me how your(reporter's) day has been..?''

[J4MIE]

Then stop guessing rubbish every time

Get over yourself matey, stop behaving like a child.

[J4MIE]

My guess is the tyre pressures were too low. But maybe Oliverk won’t allow me a guess.

[macebig]

It's gonna be an interesting afternoon especially from Hyundai's standpoint. With Rovanpera heading for another single digit score,an Ott win could potentially reignite the WDC title fight. But, it's hugely doubtful Neuville will follow team orders (IF they get applied) after Ypres. An effing catastrophe for Ford, unfortunately. From 1-2 to nothing in the span of a couple Kms... Maybe Gus can salvage a Top 5 after all, like Dirtfish predicted...🤷

[meh]

cmon Lappi, stop being such an as.s at stage end interviews..
You took overall 2nd place back and act like a crybaby..

,,Oh you better tell me how your(reporter's) day has been..?''

... and then every time after "a bit questionable interview" ... fan-lady Becs comments "Oh such a character he is".

[meh]

It's gonna be an interesting afternoon especially from Hyundai's standpoint. With Rovanpera heading for another single digit score,an Ott win could potentially reignite the WDC title fight. But, it's hugely doubtful Neuville will follow team orders (IF they get applied) after Ypres. An effing catastrophe for Ford, unfortunately. From 1-2 to nothing in the span of a couple Kms... Maybe Gus can salvage a Top 5 after all, like Dirtfish predicted...��

I think there is no point to discuss team orders in the team before tomorrow lunch. Tänak and Neuville both need to reach to that position that they have place to play games. At the moment Tänak is carring some differential issues. Hopefully it will be fixed in the service, but he has some job to do before.

In general I doubt they go for it. At the moment chance for WDC is too theoretical and this rivality inside the team is not in favor either.

[denkimi]

My guess is either neuville or tanak won't make it to the end. It neither of them crashes, i assume at least one of their cars will break down.

[wyler]

... and then every time after "a bit questionable interview" ... fan-lady Becs comments "Oh such a character he is".

why? i totally agree with Becs.
it's one or probably the only one, off track with the usual boring comment like "tricky", "sliding", "issue". he's always clear and honest in the commentary, saying happy when is happy, and bad when is bad, comprised when he is driving bad ( not much of the other concede that). never drove childisly away because of a bad stage.
and i really find it nice and funny as a character. need more like him to revive the sport media-wise (remember about a certain "hollywood"?)
i get that here around there's the "sick dog" ironic narrative tone ruling, but don't think is any better.

[skarderud]

I also think Lappi is much better than others, enjoyable different.

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[meh]

I don't say that EP is not a character, he is. The question is do you get a bit overdose of somekind of behavior or not and it is up to every person. For us there is just a decision to watch it all or not, it is not up to us to say how they need to behave during their interviews :)

This "sick doc" theme is disrespectful for my taste.

[mousti]

Ingram rolled and the car caught fire..

Source: Ingram Senior

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[NOT]

was that errand boy playing rally manager fired during the service break ? no ? a sad day...

[wyler]

I don't say that EP is not a character, he is. The question is do you get a bit overdose of somekind of behavior or not and it is up to every person. For us there is just a decision to watch it all or not, it is not up to us to say how they need to behave during their interviews :)

This "sick doc" theme is disrespectful for my taste.

indeed, i'm just surprised of people feeling ep annoying for comments like that, but it's good to have different feelings!

on the second part, can't agree more.

[NOT]

I suggest that whoever is annoyed by a drivers behaviour during interviews not to allow his mother or sister to marry him....

[J4MIE]

What happened with team orders in Belgium?

[NOT]

wow Touloftas really ridiculed Athanasoulas today... he treated him like a dog without an owner....


athanasoulas proves once more he is nothing special outside stages that has driven 3.4 million times...

i think someone should bury the corpse of greek rallying... it started to smell long time ago... sad.

[Eli]

What happened with team orders in Belgium?

Thierry binned it before they could make any.

[Danny0405]

Well, for the moment, there is nothing to talk about team orders.
The afternoon will be very long as this morning has proven and Lappi is still in the mix for 2nd position (and we can imagine that, as Rovanpera is able to follow and the margin in good on the manufacturer championship, Toyota will ask Lappi to put some pressure on Tanak).

After this afternoon, let’s see what will be the situation

[DrLill]

There is no way that Neuville will let Tänak past him. With Adamo at the head I could believe that but Moncet is not an authority for those guys imo. I am not sure that Tänak would let Neuville past him in the same situation as well.

[flat_right]

I can totally understand Thierry... No wins this season and he has driven very well here (and also Ypers) but team wise this would be a no-brainer. Although Tänak is only 15 points ahead of Thierry, taking into account how many points are still available, they should maximize Tänak's points. Also if Tänak would get closer to Kalle, there is even more pressure to perform meaning that also Toyota can't take it easy.

[Eli]

Serderidis not starting the stage? Decided to retire?

[EstWRC]

I can totally understand Thierry... No wins this season and he has driven very well here (and also Ypers) but team wise this would be a no-brainer. Although Tänak is only 15 points ahead of Thierry, taking into account how many points are still available, they should maximize Tänak's points. Also if Tänak would get closer to Kalle, there is even more pressure to perform meaning that also Toyota can't take it easy.

Ott is 25 points ahead of Thierry

[Tauri_J]

Serderidis not starting the stage? Decided to retire?

Saved us from suffering.

[focus206]

Too early to talk about team orders and wins, 30 seconds is not that much considering what's yet to come. Let's see in 3 stages.
In my opinion, no much sense talking about team orders, Kalle has the championship in his pockets even if he makes mistakes.

[er88]

Oh look, Msport again

[Tauri_J]

Msport disasters continue

[denkimi]

Ott is 25 points ahead of Thierry

If tanak wins he is 47 +-5 points behind with 90 still to go. Unlikely, but definitely not impossible.