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Rallyper
4th June 2022, 06:20
Well, narrow roads require certain driving...
Tauri_J
4th June 2022, 06:21
Front right totally Off
jcevc
4th June 2022, 06:22
This rally becoming a catastrophe for Toyota...
Was that his entire exhaust taken off? Shame for that mistake.
EstWRC
4th June 2022, 06:22
Really bad stone there throwing the cars off
TypeR
4th June 2022, 06:24
https://www.upload.ee/image/14198647/lappiwheel.jpg
https://www.upload.ee/image/14198650/lappiwheel2.jpg
This rally becoming a catastrophe for Toyota...
Best Toyota - Katsuta, 6th.
... but, rally is far from over. I would not surprise to see Rovanperä on the podium at the end.
Nothing against Toyota, but for championship it would do some leveling up.
TypeR
4th June 2022, 06:30
Latvala not with team this weekend and things don't go as they should for Toyota :D
Lappi's car is more on the road than Battut's on SS6/8.. Couldn't they still have run the SS8 with some marshal warning before the car?
AnttiL
4th June 2022, 06:39
Latvala not with team this weekend and things don't go as they should for Toyota :D
Lappi's car is more on the road than Battut's on SS6/8.. Couldn't they still have run the SS8 with some marshal warning before the car?
Lappi’s car is not burning
Why Lappi, oh why...
I really like this guy, really wished he can win this rally (I'm from Tänak's country). For him this win would be far more important than for Tänak...
TypeR
4th June 2022, 06:54
Lappi’s car is not burning
I was just thinking if it could have been possible..
I'm sure the fire was put out before the start of SS8..
firemen:
https://youtu.be/OKxd3dSip34?t=141
What a shame! More of a bad luck for Lappi than a mistake or accident, but just like Suninen too much retirements. Both are fast drivers, but it´s not just enough.
dupanton
4th June 2022, 07:18
SS10 cancelled for the support categories as well...
Rally4 cars haven't driven any stage since SS4!!
EstWRC
4th June 2022, 07:45
so you can do miracles with 1.5 weeks and 1 test day, Hyundais going well so far but we saw it already on Sunday in Portugal, seems they found something from there
Tauri_J
4th June 2022, 07:53
SS10 cancelled for the support categories as well...
Rally4 cars haven't driven any stage since SS4!!
Something needs to be done about this. Its a joke
bomber21
4th June 2022, 08:24
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And about this joke…
seb_sh
4th June 2022, 08:27
Looks like it's Tanak's rally to lose, but he is driving a Hyundai...
so you can do miracles with 1.5 weeks and 1 test day, Hyundais going well so far but we saw it already on Sunday in Portugal, seems they found something from there
With previous car Hyundai was good on slower and more technical roads as well, I think it's more related to that than car got huge improvements (although Tänak mentioned somewhere, that there are improvements).
Reality comes again, when we will go to "fly-throygh" roads like Finland or Estonia.
Looks like it's Tanak's rally to lose, but he is driving a Hyundai...
... and Neuville stopped on the stage.
edit: off the road (info from All-Live)
Rallyper
4th June 2022, 08:36
What´s happening? Neuville said to have stopped. Evans seems to drive very slow...?
Edit: Evans probably on finish line.
Rallyper
4th June 2022, 08:36
Neuville off the road they say...
haris274
4th June 2022, 08:39
They rolled the car....
Portimao
4th June 2022, 08:40
God damn it, the ammount of unluck Neuville receives this year is just enormous
Rallyper
4th June 2022, 08:41
Neuville back on stage running!!!
EstWRC
4th June 2022, 08:41
With previous car Hyundai was good on slower and more technical roads as well, I think it's more related to that than car got huge improvements (although Tänak mentioned somewhere, that there are improvements).
Reality comes again, when we will go to "fly-throygh" roads like Finland or Estonia.
You’re comparing last generation car to this?
Ott said to delfi they made this car lower and like I said they showed great speed also on Sunday in Portugal
And they were good at fly-through rally in Sweden.
Tauri_J
4th June 2022, 08:43
God damn it, the ammount of unluck Neuville receives this year is just enormous
Crashed himself or what Are you implying?
God damn it, the ammount of unluck Neuville receives this year is just enormous
Looks like his fault this time round, would’ve known more if we had a stage end reporter “for us”.
God damn it, the ammount of unluck Neuville receives this year is just enormous
It was clearly his mistake. Not bad luck this time.
Tauri_J
4th June 2022, 08:47
Neuville has these crazy moments every rally.
EstWRC
4th June 2022, 09:04
Sordo and Tänak hit that Lappi rock quite nasty still
The others came through beter IMO
wia5958
4th June 2022, 09:07
Don't understand Neuville nothing to be gained after time loss yesterday why not use today and tomorrow's stages for testing seems that Hyundai needs a lot of development yet
dimviii
4th June 2022, 09:11
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUZZH17XoAEH9Er?format=jpg&name=large
EstWRC
4th June 2022, 09:13
Don't understand Neuville nothing to be gained after time loss yesterday why not use today and tomorrow's stages for testing seems that Hyundai needs a lot of development yet
He was at eight place with chance to catch Taka and Kalle.
Still some valuable points
Don't understand Neuville nothing to be gained after time loss yesterday why not use today and tomorrow's stages for testing seems that Hyundai needs a lot of development yet
Just so stupid! Top 5 would still have been rather sure.
Fast Eddie WRC
4th June 2022, 09:17
Stage win for Breen ! Nice confidence boost for him and reward for all of the M-Sport team.
focus206
4th June 2022, 09:21
And what would top 5 or few points achieve? He knows he can't win the championship nor have a podium after yet another Hyundai problem. Only more testing Kms would have been nice, but finishing P5 or P6 matters little, unless he cares about finishing 2nd again.
wia5958
4th June 2022, 09:41
Just so stupid! Top 5 would still have been rather sure.
He would of only caught taka. Using for further development could of paid greater rewards in coming events than chasing 2 points here
dimviii
4th June 2022, 09:48
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUZj2sKWIAAV1Vm?format=jpg&name=small
Tauri_J
4th June 2022, 09:51
So SS12 cancelled?
TypeR
4th June 2022, 09:52
And what would top 5 or few points achieve? He knows he can't win the championship nor have a podium after yet another Hyundai problem. Only more testing Kms would have been nice, but finishing P5 or P6 matters little, unless he cares about finishing 2nd again.
Every place and point more than Kalle is worth pushing atm for him..
Tauri_J
4th June 2022, 10:03
https://mobile.twitter.com/simonsays_95/status/1533027429735882752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1533027429735882752%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsport.delfi.ee%2Fartikkel%2F 120014796%2Fotseblogi-tanak-juhib-sardiinia-rallit-poole-minutiga-lappi-ja-neuville-katkestasid
Danny0405
4th June 2022, 10:04
New drama in WRC-2, Mikkelsen stopped, maybe a Gryazin-Huttunen fight for the win.
Good job by the Finnish so far knowing the level of the Fiesta Rally2
Has Kajto a shot for title now?
EDIT: well, Huttunen again losing time so sounds like Gryazin has the upper hand for the win
EstWRC
4th June 2022, 10:06
https://mobile.twitter.com/simonsays_95/status/1533027429735882752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1533027429735882752%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsport.delfi.ee%2Fartikkel%2F 120014796%2Fotseblogi-tanak-juhib-sardiinia-rallit-poole-minutiga-lappi-ja-neuville-katkestasid
Damn moron. This was hugely dangerous
WRCStan
4th June 2022, 10:19
Don't know much about Linnamae but they look OK and out the road. Lappi was definitely OK, why all these stopped stages? Maybe every car should carry a high vis flag along with the sas sos system. This is rally.
EstWRC
4th June 2022, 10:19
Vid of that moron https://twitter.com/ma_ipp/status/1533028917770170369?s=21&t=usVbWhfeefVjipysiknJ8w
Damn moron. This was hugely dangerous
Honestly I'd give him a fine, and I'd give the organizers a red card, another incident like this and I'd take this rally out of the calendar, remember a few years ago how the rally in Poland was given a red card and then in 2018 it was gone from the calendar? I'd do the same here. It was also nice to see our beloved commentators not mentioning anything about it.
WRCStan
4th June 2022, 10:22
Honestly I'd give him a fine
He has to live with that ballet dance he did being seen and shared. That's punishment enough.
He has to live with that ballet dance he did being seen and shared. That's punishment enough.
Apparently not, he wasn't the first one this rally and I'm sure won't be the last.
EstWRC
4th June 2022, 10:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKQAxoDl2xQ
dimviii
4th June 2022, 10:51
Do we know the reason Mikkelsen stopped?
focus206
4th June 2022, 11:23
Every place and point more than Kalle is worth pushing atm for him..
Even if Neuville still believes in the championship, he was 40 seconds behind Kalle, he was hardly going to finish in front. And if he did finish in front, he'd take what, 2 points away from the gap?
The only shame is some missed testing Kms.
Essaj
4th June 2022, 11:26
Even if Neuville still believes in the championship, he was 40 seconds behind Kalle, he was hardly going to finish in front. And if he did finish in front, he'd take what, 2 points away from the gap?
The only shame is some missed testing Kms.
Even thought you seem to be have given up doesn't mean others specially Thierry are.
denkimi
4th June 2022, 11:29
Even thought you seem to be have given up doesn't mean others specially Thierry are.
unless kalle also is forced to retire he
JLunen
4th June 2022, 11:57
Even if Neuville still believes in the championship, he was 40 seconds behind Kalle, he was hardly going to finish in front. And if he did finish in front, he'd take what, 2 points away from the gap?
The only shame is some missed testing Kms.
Well, instead of gaining any points or not losing more than maybe a few, now he is going to lose a remarkable amount of points. If Kalle finishes 5th he is going to take another 8 points more. From power stage, I think they might take about the same amount so probably not that much difference.
But if he believes the fight for championship is over, then it doesn't matter. The lost kms matter for next season though. Personally I rhink Neuville hasn't given up so that mistake was another blow for his quest.
mknight
4th June 2022, 12:01
Do we know the reason Mikkelsen stopped?
Dirtfish says same engine problem as in Portugal.
That's two retirements from big leads. At least the championship isn't a walkover.
Bulacia also retired with an engine issue at least once this year.
Heard some comments after Monte that it might be the new fuel.
Fast Eddie WRC
4th June 2022, 12:01
Katsuta with possible cooling damage now. Awful rally for Toyota.
Danny0405
4th June 2022, 12:03
Puncture for Fourmaux
May help Kalle to catch him (Kalle cut the gap by half in this one)
Tauri_J
4th June 2022, 12:06
Looks like Sordo has heat exhaustion
WRCStan
4th June 2022, 12:10
Dirtfish says same engine problem as in Portugal.
That's two retirements from big leads. At least the championship isn't a walkover.
Bulacia also retired with an engine issue at least once this year.
Heard some comments after Monte that it might be the new fuel.
Does this fuel thing only happen to Skodas?
Fast Eddie WRC
4th June 2022, 12:12
Another good time by Breen and no mistakes. This is more like it.
Another engine failure for Mikkelsen? :eek:
mknight
4th June 2022, 12:13
Does this fuel thing only happen to Skodas?
Only thing I saw after Monte was that with the new fuel Skoda recommended engine rebuilt after every rally.
Doesn't even have to be related to this.
Fast Eddie WRC
4th June 2022, 12:18
Good job by Loubet too. He's showing good pace and consistency and really likes the Puma.
Tänak won the stage with 6.2 sec over Rovanperä and was surprised because he felt that engine was not performing or didn't support driveability
tc10a
4th June 2022, 12:23
Only thing I saw after Monte was that with the new fuel Skoda recommended engine rebuilt after every rally.
Doesn't even have to be related to this.
Kremer in Portugal and Sardegna too
dimviii
4th June 2022, 12:23
Dirtfish says same engine problem as in Portugal.
.
dirtfish refers engine problem only for Portugal,doesnt referes for engine at Sardinia.
First time i read the same article understood engine like you,but if you read carefully doesnt write someting about the reason of retirement at Sardinia.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/mikkelsen-retires-from-wrc2-for-second-rally-in-a-row/
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/mikkelsen-retires-from-wrc2-for-second-rally-in-a-row/
EstWRC
4th June 2022, 12:23
Tänak won the stage with 6.2 sec over Rovanperä and was surprised because he felt that engine was not performing or didn't support driveability
"I am very surprised. I always felt like I was losing a lot. I was really struggling with the engine - it's really difficult with the driveability - but the traction must have been good."
dimviii
4th June 2022, 12:24
Tänak won the stage with 6.2 sec over Rovanperä and was surprised because he felt that engine was not performing or didn't support driveability
Kalle has no reason to push.
TypeR
4th June 2022, 12:26
Kalle has no reason to push.
possible to catch Fourmaux..
dimviii
4th June 2022, 12:28
possible to catch Fourmaux..
"It's always nice to the Finnish fans supporting on the stage. For sure, when we have nothing to fight for then we are not pushing much. We could have been much faster."
mknight
4th June 2022, 12:28
dirtfish refers engine problem only for Portugal,doesnt referes for engine at Sardinia.
First time i read the same article understood engine like you,but if you read carefully doesnt write someting about the reason of retirement at Sardinia.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/mikkelsen-retires-from-wrc2-for-second-rally-in-a-row/
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/mikkelsen-retires-from-wrc2-for-second-rally-in-a-row/
Read again:
The cause of his stoppage? A second consecutive engine problem. DirtFish understands that it was a repeat of the same failure that halted his progress in Portugal.
Tauri_J
4th June 2022, 12:41
Suninen retired....again
Sulland
4th June 2022, 12:59
Another engine failure for Mikkelsen? :eek:
It was before a end of stage interview with Mikkelsen yesterday that we were given the engine sound at idle. I heard a strange sound from the engine, and reacted by playing it once more. Sounded like a fanblade that barely hits something.
But if it was something I am sure the techs had picked up on it.
Very strange that he gets engine failiure in two rallies in a row on a Fabia!
Dirtfish says same engine problem as in Portugal.
That's two retirements from big leads. At least the championship isn't a walkover.
Bulacia also retired with an engine issue at least once this year.
Heard some comments after Monte that it might be the new fuel.
They should pause Mikkelsen's season until the new car is available (with totally different engine) Presumably that has been testing solely with the new fuel.
Rallyper
4th June 2022, 13:02
It was before a end of stage interview with Mikkelsen yesterday that we were given the engine sound at idle. I heard a strange sound from the engine, and reacted by playing it once more. Sounded like a fanblade that barely hits something.
But if it was something I am sure the techs had picked up on it.
Very strange that he gets engine failiure in two rallies in a row on a Fabia!
Picked on it in the way he´d retired? Don´t think they´re able to change pistons - or not even allowed, I guess.
SubaruNorway
4th June 2022, 13:14
"I am very surprised. I always felt like I was losing a lot. I was really struggling with the engine - it's really difficult with the driveability - but the traction must have been good."
No hybrid in 14 if the graphics were correct
Fast Eddie WRC
4th June 2022, 14:05
Chris Ingram up to 3rd o/a in WRC2 overtaking Bulacia.
Rallyper
4th June 2022, 14:15
Saturday afternoon and most of fans are having barbeques...
However Evans has put a rear wheel to a different angle... and stopped.
jonkka
4th June 2022, 14:16
So it is Rovanpera alone now...
So it is Rovanpera alone now...
Hyundais are not in the finish either...
Rallyper
4th June 2022, 14:22
So it is Rovanpera alone now...
And Katsuta...
Sergiow
4th June 2022, 14:22
Thierry Neuville recounts his error: "I lost a little concentration, we were a little over the limit". https://www.rtbf.be/article/thierry-neuville-raconte-sa-sortie-j-ai-perdu-un-peu-de-concentration-on-a-ete-un-peu-au-dessus-de-la-limite-11006406
But he sounds upbeat: "We had fun during the morning, we set superb times. We were comfortable, we hadn't had any fears. You know, with the gap, there wasn't much to do. We still hope. For the manufacturers, Tanak and Sordo were ahead of us so we weren't of much use. Performance is present at Hyundai. It was already there in Portugal and Croatia, we would have won hands down without this concern. There are points to improve to be better equipped during the next rallies". The rally was already lost. We kept the motivation to fight for the team, for the mechanics because they were affected as much as us after the problem on Friday. We wanted to continue fighting with the hope of grabbing two or more three positions by attacking very hard. We were a little over the limit. I was forced to wait races on the last rallies. I wanted to attack, to have fun. also sometimes go for the limit."
This is how I will remember Neuville, always on the attack and so far winning 15 WRC rallies.
jonkka
4th June 2022, 14:23
And Katsuta...
Scores for his own team, not Toyota works team.
Tauri_J
4th June 2022, 14:24
Nightmare of a rally for Toyota
Rallyper
4th June 2022, 14:27
Scores for his own team, not Toyota works team.
Aaaahh. Sorry. My bad.
TypeR
4th June 2022, 14:30
,,Kalle nothing to catch'' 10s fasten than Fourmaux in splits..
Fast Eddie WRC
4th June 2022, 14:37
Dani not happy ! :D
EstWRC
4th June 2022, 14:49
Tänak making big eyes second stage in a row seeing being fastest while not pushing at all
Tänak making big eyes second stage in a row see being fastest while not pushing at all
Making big eyes?
EstWRC
4th June 2022, 14:53
Making big eyes?
Meaning that he is surprised he was so fast when seeing the time at the end
Sergiow
4th June 2022, 15:00
PowerStage (and general overview rally Sardegna Italia 2022) will be tomorrow live on open channel RTBF 2 (Tipik) TV chain. And they have a reporter which is following this rally circus around the world. So the Belgian French TV is clearly investing into WRC. I do not know if other National TV channels are doing this kind of thing to support WRC
PowerStage (and general overview rally Sardegna Italia 2022) will be tomorrow live on open channel RTBF 2 (Tipik) TV chain. And they have a reporter which is following this rally circus around the world. So the Belgian French TV is clearly investing into WRC. I do not know if other National TV channels are doing this kind of thing to support WRC
Finnish YLE is showing PowerStages and also some other stages.
Rallyper
4th June 2022, 15:11
Hear, hear. Now Juha Kankkunen on All Live with Becsy!!
Meaning that he is surprised he was so fast when seeing the time at the end
I see, thanks for the clarification.
Rallyper
4th June 2022, 15:33
Fourmaux probably out. Big cut. Stopped...
Augury
4th June 2022, 15:33
Fourmaux off and stuck.
TypeR
4th June 2022, 15:37
if I was Fourmaux, I would be afraid to go back to service park..
Fast Eddie WRC
4th June 2022, 15:37
Bummer.... just as he was re-building his confidence.
SubaruNorway
4th June 2022, 15:38
AGAIN WTF are they doing, plenty of space to pass
Augury
4th June 2022, 15:39
Surely there is enough room to squeeze past Fourmaux?
AGAIN WTF are they doing, plenty of space to pass
I’m too jaded at this point to answer, pisses me off each time.
Fast Eddie WRC
4th June 2022, 15:40
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUa1zo1WIAUC7WX?format=jpg&name=medium
Oliverk
4th June 2022, 15:43
jesus christ
Myrvold
4th June 2022, 15:44
Feel bad for Fourmaux :(
SubaruNorway
4th June 2022, 15:46
I don't think they can even restart it now that they sendt the flat bed in...
Fast Eddie WRC
4th June 2022, 15:49
Fourmaux was wiping his eyes just before he went off.
Get shot of this rally. Its time to go
Augury
4th June 2022, 15:53
wtf is going on
Tauri_J
4th June 2022, 15:54
Ditch this rally
Oliverk
4th June 2022, 15:54
amateur hour this weekend.
Fast Eddie WRC
4th June 2022, 15:55
Red flag for Breen, he has to slow.
Rallyper
4th June 2022, 15:55
Breen got red flag...? What´s happening here...? Is this for real?
TypeR
4th June 2022, 15:55
cirque du sardegna..
SubaruNorway
4th June 2022, 15:57
Hopefully there's not lots of spectators walking out of the stage now
Myrvold
4th June 2022, 15:57
So, Loubet will catch Breen then? Amazing.
EDIT: Nope. Finally got the map to load. No worries there.
bearclaw
4th June 2022, 15:57
...but Juha is quite nice to listen...
Fast Eddie WRC
4th June 2022, 15:58
Liverpool fan ??? ;)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FUa5WjvXsAITp2B?format=png&name=medium
amateur hour this weekend.
Italian organizational skills. Nothing surprising
Honestly I would take this event off from the calendar, the level of incompetence here is way too high to be on a world stage.
the sniper
4th June 2022, 15:59
I don't think they can even restart it now that they sendt the flat bed in...
This seemed like a mess waiting to happen... How would they have known it was out of the stage so quickly?
I don't care what Sardinia are paying or what the ACI want, go back to the mainland or no more Italy...
Fast Eddie WRC
4th June 2022, 16:01
Tanak got the same red flag but doesnt slow...
Tauri_J
4th June 2022, 16:02
Loubet lol
This seemed like a mess waiting to happen... How would they have known it was out of the stage so quickly?
I don't care what Sardinia are paying or what the ACI want, go back to the mainland or no more Italy...
☝☝☝☝
I hope they give him (Breen) his time back.
Tauri_J
4th June 2022, 16:04
Fuck my life
This seemed like a mess waiting to happen... How would they have known it was out of the stage so quickly?
I don't care what Sardinia are paying or what the ACI want, go back to the mainland or no more Italy...Exactly.
Due to the championship not increasing the number of events in the calendar due to the teams request, I'm surpised how Sardinia has lasted this long. One or both of australia and new Zealand out, no GB, increasing demand from Eastern European countries, no Argentina or Mexico, still no China or North American event. Chile was a class event the one time it ran..., etc etc.
Italy needs a mainland event (however I doubt we ever get Sanremo back).
Rallyper
4th June 2022, 16:05
Tanak in slow mode.
EstWRC
4th June 2022, 16:05
Tänak now slowing for red or a problem?
Did Tanak get a radio message from team to slow down?
seb_sh
4th June 2022, 16:05
WTF is going on?!?
Rallyper
4th June 2022, 16:06
Get Sardegna out of WRC, now!!!!
Stage is red flagged
Sent from my DN2103 using Tapatalk
Myrvold
4th June 2022, 16:06
So. Breen got the red. Tänak got the red.
Did Loubet ignore it, or did they actually not show him the red?
EstWRC
4th June 2022, 16:07
Tänak slowed because of red
What a mess
TypeR
4th June 2022, 16:07
maybe team said, that there was red flag and in case slow down?
Animals have taken over the zoo here it seems, in terms of organisation. Embarrassment of an event.
Tanak baffled and no wonder!
EstWRC
4th June 2022, 16:11
This has been truly an embarrassment
People walking on the stages, lower class cars getting to drive only 4-5 stages, messed up red flag
It's just a joke this world championship having this kind of an event, if it were in F1 they'd be off the calendar for the next year. And I'm sorry, the level of commentation is just horrendous, not even realizing that Tänak slowed down because the team told him to...A complete sh*t show, pardon my french.
EstWRC
4th June 2022, 16:22
im really waiting to see how this will be solved now
Sergiow
4th June 2022, 16:25
Can you all please stop with criticizing Rally Sardegna. I take this personal because Sardegna is my second home. We all know there are some organizational hiccups and RIS will be clearly judged by FIA about that and I was a victim of that too on the cancelled SS9. But this is all about safety. If I remember correctly WRC Rally Finland was not run in 2020 because of 'safety reasons', a whole rally, not just some cancelled stages. And what about WRC Rally Sweden 2021, did they run or not?
EstWRC
4th June 2022, 16:28
i hope youre not serious with those comparisons?
TypeR
4th June 2022, 16:35
Can you all please stop with criticizing Rally Sardegna. I take this personal because Sardegna is my second home. We all know there are some organizational hiccups and RIS will be clearly judged by FIA about that and I was a victim of that too on the cancelled SS9. But this is all about safety. If I remember correctly WRC Rally Finland was not run in 2020 because of 'safety reasons', a whole rally, not just some cancelled stages. And what about WRC Rally Sweden 2021, did they run or not?
Lol
Can't be serious grown up commemt.. must be trolling.
Can you all please stop with criticizing Rally Sardegna. I take this personal because Sardegna is my second home. We all know there are some organizational hiccups and RIS will be clearly judged by FIA about that and I was a victim of that too on the cancelled SS9. But this is all about safety. If I remember correctly WRC Rally Finland was not run in 2020 because of 'safety reasons', a whole rally, not just some cancelled stages. And what about WRC Rally Sweden 2021, did they run or not?
Are you serious or ok? Finland was cancelled because of COVID! It´s much more than rallying´s safety reasons.
the sniper
4th June 2022, 16:37
This has been truly an embarrassment
People walking on the stages, lower class cars getting to drive only 4-5 stages, messed up red flag
Plus relatively few spectators, but half of them are stood somewhere daft.
Regardless of all these issues, how this rally survived the 'no more island WRC rallies' diktat a few years ago is a bit of a mystery. The money must be very, very good. At least, I hope so...
I LOVE sardinia as a place to go (and i could understand to live). I understand it is a popular destination to spectate, close enough to everywhere, nice weather this time of the year, etcv ...But the rally itself i never really apreciated. Not a lot of character, nothing unique, too slow/narrow/twisty.... i also recalled Corsica was axed because "island rallyes are too expensive". With this year's shitshow and the pressure mounting for more non-european events, I really don't see how on earth can this one continues ... But i guess money, politics and whatever else talks ...
EstWRC
4th June 2022, 16:55
wrc.com isnt showin times at all for Sordo, Breen and Tänak at the moment
I LOVE Sardinia as a place to go (and i could understand to live). I understand it is a popular destination to spectate, close enough to everywhere, nice weather this time of the year, etcv ...But the rally itself i never really appreciated. Not a lot of character, nothing unique, too slow/narrow/twisty.... i also recalled Corsica was axed because "island rallyes are too expensive". With this year's shitshow and the pressure mounting for more non-european events, I really don't see how on earth can this one continues ... But i guess money, politics and whatever else talks ...
Like someone once said, cash is king, and it's no exception here. I really hope they get the boot for next year but this being the FIA & the Promoter I seriously doubt anything will happen to the event, perhaps a slap on the wrist, I hope they prove me (us) wrong, but I wouldn't hold my breath for it.
WRCStan
4th June 2022, 17:13
The marshal with the red flag is clearly another communication error, I can only assume the second red flag was to enable that message to go through as the stage then restarted. Comms need to be investigated. Must admit it's not my favourite event on the calendar but it's rarely dull.
jmwachuya
4th June 2022, 17:16
This has been truly an embarrassment
People walking on the stages, lower class cars getting to drive only 4-5 stages, messed up red flagWRC latest results not showing any Hyundai in the leaderboard..
What could be happening?
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WRC latest results not showing any Hyundai in the leaderboard..
What could be happening?
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Honestly they're the last place I'd go to to check for the results, they're rarely updated, on time.
WRCStan
4th June 2022, 17:20
WRC latest results not showing any Hyundai in the leaderboard..
What could be happening?
None set a time on the last stage due to red flags. Give the stewards a few hours to think about it and they will add times.
Sergiow
4th June 2022, 17:22
I am really wondering how much of the forum member currently commenting in this very topis are really in Sardegna at the moment? Seems to me a lot a armchair comments. Do they really now how big Autosport is here on this island? Just remember that the WRC Rally is here already from 2004, taking over from San Remo because the number of crowds got out of hand there. So playing the crowd card is just one of the big advantages having a rally on an Island. Politics you said? That is the very reason why this rally is so spread out from west to east and to the north of this Island. Tommi Makkinen was once critising the choice of WRC Sardegna but guess what, rumor was that he was not getting enough 5 stars rooms for his people. Money? Rumor is persistent that the best choice for the money about WRC Rally Italia would be Rome, max visibility, max crowded, plenty 5 stars hotels, everybody happy
Sergiow
4th June 2022, 17:24
None set a time on the last stage due to red flags. Give the stewards a few hours to think about it and they will add times.
Good point, communications with Stewards was a weak point of friday. The viewpoint on SS9 where I was attending was manned by a marshall group from Genua because there are not enough marshalls from Sardegna itself to man all the points
Sergiow
4th June 2022, 17:37
Like someone once said, cash is king, and it's no exception here. I really hope they get the boot for next year but this being the FIA & the Promoter I seriously doubt anything will happen to the event, perhaps a slap on the wrist, I hope they prove me (us) wrong, but I wouldn't hold my breath for it.
Maybe Adamo is right with his comment about the Service Parks. You should really see now the Service Park of Alghero on this very saturday night: it is brimming with people, there is sea breeze cooling things. Truly a festival mood and that is what WRC should be about in the 21st century, a friendly place where you can invite you guests and even impress that tourist who usually doesn't even know what WRC is. A fitting bridge here can be made with F1 which has made its transition to a guaranteed future: when Haas decided to enter the F1 it was in first place from commercial reasons, to invite partners alike and do business on each Grand Prix all over the world in the F1 paddock
I am really wondering how much of the forum member currently commenting in this very topis are really in Sardegna at the moment? Seems to me a lot a armchair comments. Do they really now how big Autosport is here on this island? Just remember that the WRC Rally is here already from 2004, taking over from San Remo because the number of crowds got out of hand there. So playing the crowd card is just one of the big advantages having a rally on an Island. Politics you said? That is the very reason why this rally is so spread out from west to east and to the north of this Island. Tommi Makkinen was once critising the choice of WRC Sardegna but guess what, rumor was that he was not getting enough 5 stars rooms for his people. Money? Rumor is persistent that the best choice for the money about WRC Rally Italia would be Rome, max visibility, max crowded, plenty 5 stars hotels, everybody happy
Please - try to base your statements on facts. Legally you may get some "invitation" for this kind of stuff.
Based on your logic - rally has been there forever - no new rallies could get a place? Rallies need to be developed and be up to date with quality and requirements, not standing on "the first run date". To have a nice history is just a nice thing, but should not be golden ticket to keep you running forever without improvements.
edit: and to be clear - my statement is against your "logic", not against the rally itself.
Danny0405
4th June 2022, 17:52
Well, I remain on my idea that Fourmaux should take a rally off.
Clearly, before this rally, it was very similar to Camilli’s 2016 season: 3 rallyes out of top 10, one low-paced rallye to get some confidence and then, one interesting rally but with this mistake, it’s even worse (the only point is that one of Fourmaux retirement was mechanical issue).
And Fourmaux has less excuse than Camilli as he was more prepared to WRC main class (not saying «*enough*» but at least more prepared, yeah for sure).
Actually, Loubet is clearly winning the fight and he should take a rally off to think on it. Not saying it’s a miracle solution but they must try something and except changing co-driver (or firing him but seems too early considering the investment), I don’t see.
All the more than they have at least 3 other drivers available in each rallies until Greece included. And they could even try another driver (Mikkelsen if a Red Bull compatible driver is needed because of the money, or giving an additional opportunity to Huttunen who is not awful so far considering the level of the car).
Fast Eddie WRC
4th June 2022, 18:02
E. Sordo, Breen and Tanak have been given the time of Rovanpera.
Danny0405
4th June 2022, 18:04
Breen and Tanak have been given the time of Sordo.
Well bad choice again IMO as they gave them the time of Kalle apparently.
They should give the Loubet-Greensmith time to Sordo-Tanak-Breen to «*neutralize*» this messy stage.
Here Loubet sounds to leave 10s to Sordo in this mess.
Rallyper
4th June 2022, 18:04
Maybe Adamo is right with his comment about the Service Parks. You should really see now the Service Park of Alghero on this very saturday night: it is brimming with people, there is sea breeze cooling things. Truly a festival mood and that is what WRC should be about in the 21st century, a friendly place where you can invite you guests and even impress that tourist who usually doesn't even know what WRC is. A fitting bridge here can be made with F1 which has made its transition to a guaranteed future: when Haas decided to enter the F1 it was in first place from commercial reasons, to invite partners alike and do business on each Grand Prix all over the world in the F1 paddock
WRC rallies are not driven in SP. They are decided on stages. No further comment.
EstWRC
4th June 2022, 18:09
they have corrected the times, TOP3 is the same as it was after SS16, no changes...Sordo, Breen and Tänak got the same time as Rovanperä
https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/73361-rally-italia-sardegna-2022/
they have corrected the times, TOP3 is the same as it was after SS16, no changes...Sordo, Breen and Tänak got the same time as Rovanperä
https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/73361-rally-italia-sardegna-2022/
I can't stress this enough, I hope each and everyone of the crews finish tomorrow as they are now.
WRCStan
4th June 2022, 18:27
39kms, it'd still take a brave man to put money on a Tanak and Gryazin double.
39kms, it'd still take a brave man to put money on a Tanak and Gryazin double.
I'm sure you're not the only one yet I still hope Hyundai manage to get that first win with the car, they need it desperately.
WRCStan
4th June 2022, 18:30
I'm sure you're not the only one yet I still hope Hyundai manage to get that first win with the car, they need it desperately.
Agreed, as does the wider championship.
Agreed, as does the wider championship.
Definitely, they could make up at least 20 points on Toyota, since Fourmaux's accident handed Rovanperä fifth place.
After all that's gone before during this rally, would you guys replace Sardegna to bring back (just for example) Wales Rally GB? and in Sardegna's place bring back Greece to it's 'traditional' slot? while Australia/New-Zealand take Greece's slot in September?
Some pictures from Saturday: https://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_wrc_rallye_italia_sardegna_2022.html
https://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/sardegna3/1.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/sardegna3/28.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/sardegna3/2.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/sardegna3/4.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/sardegna3/5.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/sardegna3/7.jpg
Mk2 RS2000
4th June 2022, 22:43
After all that's gone before during this rally, would you guys replace Sardegna to bring back (just for example) Wales Rally GB? and in Sardegna's place bring back Greece to it's 'traditional' slot? while Australia/New-Zealand take Greece's slot in September?
Australia and New Zealand rallies should both be included
I'm sure you're not the only one yet I still hope Hyundai manage to get that first win with the car, they need it desperately.
Absolutely true - Good for the manufacturer's championship, and more important than not good for Tanak. However bear in mind that Hyundai has been VERY lucky on this one as would the last 2 stage not be canceled Friday, Tanak would have certainly lost a minute or so (which he could have gained back given his pace, but at the expense of potentially more technical failures). Anyways, after being amongst the unluckiest of drivers over the past year or so, it is well deserved !
Danny0405
5th June 2022, 00:49
After all that's gone before during this rally, would you guys replace Sardegna to bring back (just for example) Wales Rally GB? and in Sardegna's place bring back Greece to it's 'traditional' slot? while Australia/New-Zealand take Greece's slot in September?
With a 13-round calendar and changing anything else than exiting Sardegna, I would take Mexico without a doubt (and back in its traditional calendar to avoid a 2-month break): no impact on the gravel/tarmac balance, some experience and a real will to make WRC return (see Rally of Nations in April)
And for sure, the comeback to America so that the championship will be in all continents. And as island rally is quite expensive already, the cost increase would not be awful for teams.
A bit more skeptical about Argentina’s ability even if greater history so I would take Mexico.
I think a 13-round with 4 abroad-rallies in each of the 4 other continents is a good balance so far in terms of cost/level/visibility. Maybe an opening for an additional one if in Europe so not too costly (San Remo or Barum would be the best candidates).
In UK, Wales doesn’t seem to want funding again WRC so I don’t really see a comeback there.
Danny0405
5th June 2022, 01:04
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/m-sport-fourmauxs-italy-crash-not-comparable-to-other-mistakes/
Partially true but sounds like a way to avoid the post-Croatia controversy again. Still think it will be complicated for him, he will have to be very careful in Kenya (even if it’s not necessarily a bad approach there to deliver a result) and he will come for the Estonia-Finland serie with no confidence.
In WRC-2, yeah, interesting to see what ŠKODA/Toksport will do: will they step back a little bit to wait the new car, will they get the new car faster or, on the contrary, will they delay the arrival of the new car to make additional tests with the biofuel?
As their competitors are not really consistent, SKODA have 3 of the 5 remaining championship contenders I think (Kajto, Mikkelsen, Gryazin against Rossel & Suninen) + 1 or 2 jokers (Lindholm, Ingram). So the situation is not out of control for them at the moment.
TypeR
5th June 2022, 04:58
no EV rule in service park anymore?
so far everybody has been on real engine..
Toksport are not going to Kenya and the new car is expected in Finland, so it's only Estonia they would miss.
How long has the biofuel been available to teams for? The new Fabia has a totally new engine and I assume the majority of the testing this year at least has been done with the new fuel.
TypeR
5th June 2022, 05:29
Breen's car in service coughed some smoke out for couple of times..
Millener said they changed his car's turbo.
Tänak had problems in parc ferme? Julian Porter heard something in service that ,,did Tänak made it here''?
https://www.upload.ee/image/14201467/breen.jpg
EstWRC
5th June 2022, 05:31
oh great, morning with good news already, jesus christ
E: i see Tänak moving in the service park from the maps
pantealex
5th June 2022, 05:46
Right now all drivers in front deserves to win
-Ott has had long dry season
-Sordo has been loyal soldier for years
-Puma boys have never won
and next is Kalle...
I have a feeling that not all 4 in front will finish this rally
TypeR
5th June 2022, 05:46
yes, he came to service w no problem and left around 2min left on the clock..
Porter just said what he heard
With a 13-round calendar and changing anything else than exiting Sardegna, I would take Mexico without a doubt (and back in its traditional calendar to avoid a 2-month break): no impact on the gravel/tarmac balance, some experience and a real will to make WRC return (see Rally of Nations in April)
And for sure, the comeback to America so that the championship will be in all continents. And as island rally is quite expensive already, the cost increase would not be awful for teams.
A bit more skeptical about Argentina’s ability even if greater history so I would take Mexico.
I think a 13-round with 4 abroad-rallies in each of the 4 other continents is a good balance so far in terms of cost/level/visibility. Maybe an opening for an additional one if in Europe so not too costly (San Remo or Barum would be the best candidates).
In UK, Wales doesn’t seem to want funding again WRC so I don’t really see a comeback there.
And if it would’ve been a 14 round calendar? San Remo or Barum as the 14th round?
Right now all drivers in front deserves to win
-Ott has had long dry season
-Sordo has been loyal soldier for years
-Puma boys have never won
and next is Kalle...
I have a feeling that not all 4 in front will finish this rally
I really hope they do (finish in front) and that a mechanical/technical issue doesn’t deprive them from a good result.
EstWRC
5th June 2022, 06:03
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220605/9e65b53776e31f610493702b11fe8387.jpg
TypeR
5th June 2022, 06:10
sunday cruising again..
mknight
5th June 2022, 06:16
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/m-sport-fourmauxs-italy-crash-not-comparable-to-other-mistakes/
Partially true but sounds like a way to avoid the post-Croatia controversy again. Still think it will be complicated for him, he will have to be very careful in Kenya (even if it’s not necessarily a bad approach there to deliver a result) and he will come for the Estonia-Finland serie with no confidence.
For the second rally in a row Loubet seems clearly faster than Fourmaux and more stable. Here he was fighting with Breen for quite some time. (and had a good chance for 3rd here until they gave Sordo extra 10s with that notional time).
Yet MSports PR seems to generally ignore Loubet and praise Fourmaux no matter what (what was so great with Portugal again?).
Fourmaux "fantastic result" here was basically last WRC without major problems.
Sergiow
5th June 2022, 06:18
WRC rallies are not driven in SP. They are decided on stages. No further comment.
Awaiting the cars at Argentiera, still some time to comment. Ha. So can you tell me then why the service park has been put some much in the picture by Adamo in his latest interview with rallysimo.it?
jonkka
5th June 2022, 06:22
Yet MSports PR seems to generally ignore Loubet and praise Fourmaux no matter what (what was so great with Portugal again?).
Team PR is pretty useless in every way, it's just biased propaganda with little information value. Fun to read if kids took the funny pages again this morning.
Tauri_J
5th June 2022, 06:25
Good ol' sunday cruising
Tauri_J
5th June 2022, 06:30
Give points for whole sunday or do something to end this comedy.
Give points for whole sunday or do something to end this comedy.
Or make Sunday a proper day with 100~kms and not these 30-50kms Sundays.
jonkka
5th June 2022, 06:39
Or make Sunday a proper day with 100~kms and not these 30-50kms Sundays.
To do that they would have to drop stipulation that Sunday is over by noon.
TypeR
5th June 2022, 06:39
Tänak got his 300th stage win!
mknight
5th June 2022, 06:39
Team PR is pretty useless in every way, it's just biased propaganda with little information value. Fun to read if kids took the funny pages again this morning.
For sure team PR will always highlight the positive and not talk about the negative, but MSports one is on a whole new level for last 1 year or so.
For Greensmith in Portugal they said he was "in a fight for podium after Friday. Without others dropping, unlike before". Loeb, Ogier, Tanak, Neuville and Breen dropped with issues at that point...
Given this level, I am quite surprised how Loubet is barely mentioned.
jonkka
5th June 2022, 06:42
For sure team PR will always highlight the positive and not talk about the negative, but MSports one is on a whole new level for last 1 year or so.
They have had to, positives have been so thin on the ground lately...
Tauri_J
5th June 2022, 06:43
Or make Sunday a proper day with 100~kms and not these 30-50kms Sundays.
84km in Kenya
To do that they would have to drop stipulation that Sunday is over by noon.
Yes, they could also run Thursdays to Saturdays with Thursday being a full day.
84km in Kenya
And they needed special permission right?
jonkka
5th June 2022, 06:43
Yes, they could also run Thursdays to Saturdays with Thursday being a full day.
That wouldn't be popular with people who have to work during the week.
EstWRC
5th June 2022, 06:49
Today it would have been sensible to only run PS STAGE twice.
Let them correct the notes the first time and then a push run on second run.
Embarrassing to watch this cruising. Kalle even saying he could have gone slower
Tauri_J
5th June 2022, 06:54
And they needed special permission right?
Dont really know, probably not because power stage still starts like it used to. Maybe some special permission about the total distance of the rally because its over 360kms.
Dont really know, probably not because power stage still starts like it used to. Maybe some special permission about the total distance of the rally because its over 360kms.
Yes I was referring to the total amount of competitive kilometers in the rally.
bomber21
5th June 2022, 06:59
Still better than ridiculous Hyundai twitter account…
EstWRC
5th June 2022, 07:02
About the red flag situation yesterday
Estonian commentator called different experts yesterday and the answer was from all that the red flag notice in the car is the A and O for the drivers, not the one that Marshall shows.
So that’s what made the confusion and there wasn’t any penalties.
And btw the Marshall didn’t show it for Loubet but did for Breen and Tänak
M-Sport guys need to attack on the next stage, this is their PR chance :)
mknight
5th June 2022, 08:29
M-Sport guys need to attack on the next stage, this is their PR chance :)
Lately they seemed to have reduced this 2021 habbit.
Or it might be that Fourmaux who usually did this last year rarely runs on Sunday these days.
WRCStan
5th June 2022, 09:06
About the red flag situation yesterday
Estonian commentator called different experts yesterday and the answer was from all that the red flag notice in the car is the A and O for the drivers, not the one that Marshall shows.
So that’s what made the confusion and there wasn’t any penalties.
And btw the Marshall didn’t show it for Loubet but did for Breen and Tänak
Any Red flag must be taken seriously, whichever happens first.
Else you can bin the marshals with physical flags.
trifonvl
5th June 2022, 09:07
Give points for whole sunday or do something to end this comedy.
Just have a TFZ before PS in every rally....four more tyres is such a big expense???
RS2500
5th June 2022, 09:08
where Kiri ?
WRCStan
5th June 2022, 09:10
Just have a TFZ before PS in every rally....four more tyres is such a big expense???
This is not the point.
malscar
5th June 2022, 09:36
Give points for whole sunday or do something to end this comedy.
Suggest that for the people who have rejoined under Super Rally they must finish each stage on the Sunday before the powerstage within 5% of the fastest time or they won't be eligible to score any powerstage points. That may stop the crap that Neuville and others are doing.
Fast Eddie WRC
5th June 2022, 09:41
This situation is nothing new. Back in the day when events were much longer, drivers were just driving to get to the finish much more. The gaps were many minutes between cars are there were few 'battles' to the very end of rallies. Just accept it as part of the endurance element of the sport.
Tauri_J
5th June 2022, 09:49
300km is no endurance.
SubaruNorway
5th June 2022, 09:51
where Kiri ?
Something with the kid it seemed like
RS2500
5th June 2022, 10:13
Something with the kid it seemed like
thanks for reply . Was wondering why she not there . Molly petit is good too but Kiri has it all down pat
Fast Eddie WRC
5th June 2022, 10:18
Great drive and result for Chris Ingram in WRC2 / WRC2 Junior.
Danny0405
5th June 2022, 10:24
Great drive and result for Chris Ingram in WRC2 / WRC2 Junior.
Well, much more mixed review IMO
Jan Solans was above him almost all the weekend and Huttunen was able to catch him in spite of two punctures and Fiesta Rally2. The two were much more interesting here according to me.
Not saying it’s a bad race from him but it’s quite logical with the beginning of his season: consistant yes, but clearly lacks a bit of speed against the best in class.
Fast (enough) and mature drive by Gryazin.
Weird weekend for Toksport/Skoda. Car was fast and won the category but mechanical problems too.
Rallyper
5th June 2022, 10:30
Lappi flying!
Danny0405
5th June 2022, 10:32
Well, much more mixed review IMO
Jan Solans was above him almost all the weekend and Huttunen was able to catch him in spite of two punctures and Fiesta Rally2. The two were much more interesting here according to me.
Not saying it’s a bad race from him but it’s quite logical with the beginning of his season: consistant yes, but clearly lacks a bit of speed against the best in class.
And for sure, he was not quoted here but Pajari did really good for a first WRC Rally2 outing.
Neuville comes like through some pin-ball came
Fast Eddie WRC
5th June 2022, 10:35
Well, much more mixed review IMO
Jan Solans was above him almost all the weekend and Huttunen was able to catch him in spite of two punctures and Fiesta Rally2. The two were much more interesting here according to me.
Not saying it’s a bad race from him but it’s quite logical with the beginning of his season: consistant yes, but clearly lacks a bit of speed against the best in class.
Ingram was driving for the WRC2 Junior championship. He will push more on future events now he has solid points on the board.
the sniper
5th June 2022, 10:57
300km is no endurance.
It wasn't even 300km.
Fast Eddie WRC
5th June 2022, 11:05
However long a rally is the last day will be one to consolidate...
Tanak: "Today the priority is to drive through and bring the car home."
Fast Eddie WRC
5th June 2022, 11:06
Nice result by Breen and M-Sport. They both needed that.
Rallyper
5th June 2022, 11:07
Happy for Tanak. Very good!!
Fast Eddie WRC
5th June 2022, 11:09
Hyundai and its drivers have a great record here.
True but with that lack of development & reliability, they'll have a hard time achieving that 5th win.
Told ya ! ;)
EstWRC
5th June 2022, 11:13
460 something days of agony over finally
Almost in tears, feels like a first win again, brilliant drive this week. Reminded Toyota days
Quite boring sunday... but... from estonian perspective, this time actually I don't complain about it :)
Told ya ! ;)
I’m so glad they manage to get that win. It’s been a long time coming! Also really happy for Breen & Paul for their second place.
Great for Tänak & Hyundai! Enjoy the moment all the estonians.
Hüttünen
5th June 2022, 11:30
Great rally from Tänak. He showed some masterclass here. Small minus that he wasn’t pushing in the power stage and lost points but on the other hand first win after Sweden 2021 and maybe he thinks WRC will be done already.
Breen was good. So was Sordo. Good pace during the rally but they drove slow Power Stage as always.
Loubet was surprisingly good. Interesting to see his performance in upcoming rallies.
Rovanperä looked like C class driver this weekend. Okay, starting position wasn’t good but he didn’t have pace here at all.
Greensmith and Katsuta performed as expected. Really slow. 😁
Neuville, Evans and Lappi drove too as expected. Quite fast but with many errors.
Formaux wants to drive WRC2 next year. Solid performance again to reach that target!
Finally the drought from 2021 has ended and Hyundai (& of course Tänak) are finally on that top step on the podium and making some headway in Toyota's lead, I really hope they can now start and develop (as much as possible) the car and get faster, in any case, they have now some basis to rely on. Still Rovanperä has a commanding lead but at least now 2 drivers are now on the hunt for him and his first spot. Clever rally by Rovanperä, never really felt comfortable with the car yet still managed to keep his nose clean, get 5th place and 4 points from the power stage so he actually extended his gap to Neuville to 55 points. I'm aware Neuville said he wasn't going to wait until everybody else falters, but in this case I think he was wrong, if he has any serious intentions about getting this year's championship, every point counts, and with Fourmaux's mistake yesterday he could’ve gotten 8 extra points from finishing 6th so at least he has a fighting chance when that car will be as reliable as that Toyota.
focus206
5th June 2022, 11:53
Good for Tanak, finally a win. But let's not forget he was extremely lucky for the 2 cancelled stages when he was having transmission troubles. If those stages weren't cancelled, we would be probably talking about once again how crap Hyundai's reliability is. But for once luck smiled to Tanak and he deserves it.
Rovanpera did what he had to do, with Finland and Estonia yet to come, he can cruise with no problems and extend his lead.
It makes me smile reading criticism of Neuville for not settling for yet another 5th-6th place or so, as if that would matter for the championship. Nobody driving a Hyundai can seriously challenge for the title this year. And probably not even Evans.
Impressed by Loubet in 4th.
460 something days of agony over finally
Almost in tears, feels like a first win again, brilliant drive this week. Reminded Toyota days
Do you think his script changed for this year?
EstWRC
5th June 2022, 12:50
Do you think his script changed for this year?
really hope so, Sardegna was very promising. we will see.
needs couple of more wins and Kalle being 5th and 6th and it could get interesting
Fast Eddie WRC
5th June 2022, 12:51
Great result for Tanak and Hyundai but the fact it wasn't Neuville means there's no increase in pressure on Rovanpera.
It seems the Manu title will be the only achievable target for Hyundai this season. Their drivers may now be instructed to drive accordingly.
EstWRC
5th June 2022, 12:53
Ott was flying this weekend
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Ott was flying this weekend
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Literally!!
Would also love to see them jumping in the harbor. It's been (almost) two long years since last time
bomber21
5th June 2022, 13:23
Nice to see Tanak back!
PS: Sordo is really amazing. The most consistent driver of the championship.
Hüttünen
5th June 2022, 13:32
Great result for Tanak and Hyundai but the fact it wasn't Neuville means there's no increase in pressure on Rovanpera.
It seems the Manu title will be the only achievable target for Hyundai this season. Their drivers may now be instructed to drive accordingly.
If Kalle will continue this Greensmith-Katsuta level pace he showed in Sardegna, he will definitely face serious troubles. If he will focus more in driving, not talking, he should won Title easily.
If Kalle will continue this Greensmith-Katsuta level pace he showed in Sardegna, he will definitely face serious troubles. If he will focus more in driving, not talking, he should won Title easily.
I’m guessing once he saw he wasn’t comfortable with the car and he did mention a number of times that the car isn’t turning and isn’t doing what he wants, he just managed his pace and made sure he’d get to the end, and even pushed on the power stage and as a result came away with 14 points this weekend. If his rivals, A. had better (more reliable) cars and B. took that approach more often, when they see they don’t have the pace, then perhaps this year would’ve been a different story.
Besides Fourmaux, Evans was a bit disappointing this weekend, his driving reminded me more when he was back in M-Sport, too ragged, too scruffy. Back to Tanak for a second, this weekend felt like the first time ever since he left from Toyota like his old self, coming to the rally, fighting for the win, his rivals falter and then he comes and dominates the event with 10 stage wins; If the car now has the pace, I hope they get they’re reliability sorted out soon so we’ll get an emphatic battle in Estonia-Finland-Ypres, NZ (fingers crossed) & Catalunya.
steve.mandzij
5th June 2022, 14:10
If Kalle will continue this Greensmith-Katsuta level pace he showed in Sardegna, he will definitely face serious troubles. If he will focus more in driving, not talking, he should won Title easily.It was one rally, starting first on one of the most cleaning events of the championship, off the back of three straight dominant and unstoppable wins.
Ridiculous...
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denkimi
5th June 2022, 14:21
If Kalle will continue this Greensmith-Katsuta level pace he showed in Sardegna, he will definitely face serious troubles. If he will focus more in driving, not talking, he should won Title easily.
he increased his lead in the championship by 9 points, up to 55. so even when he's not on the pace, he still came out ahead of his rivals.
AnttiL
5th June 2022, 15:05
300km is no endurance.
At least: stop craving for longer rallies if tyre saving Sundays are a problem.
https://itgetsfasternow.com/2022/02/28/what-should-be-done-for-the-tyre-saving-sundays/
Danny0405
5th June 2022, 15:05
Well, good job by Tanak and very important win for Hyundai, let’s hope they can make a good serie.
Important also for Breen to clinch such a result in a slow gravel rally; it shows he has some potential on this type of Rallye for the future.
Again good job by Sordo with this podium in a very Sordo-style rallye: 53th podium in career, equals Auriol in 9th position all-time.
And also good and important result for Loubet to show his potential with some good time and more than all, a consistent performance all over the weekend. For the moment, he has done the job in his first 3 rallyes.
Well, I found you are a bit harsh with Rovanpera. Sometimes you don’t find the good speed and you must be clever. Don’t forget also that he had a bad time during his first two outings in Sardinia in the last 2 years. So in the end, 5th + 4 power stages points is a good balance.
Katsuta, ok, it was difficult for him with 3rd position on the road (higher in career). Did the job to the end, nothing more nothing less.
Bit disappointing pace by Greensmith compared with his team-mates.
Lappi, well the speed was good but second mistake in 3 rallyes, not really good for a third driver ... all the more that Toyota list manufacturer points because of that. Huge pressure on his shoulders in Estonia.
Neuville and Evans, difficult to evaluate their performance.
Well, Fourmaux, one statistic sums up the disaster: after 5 rallies in Rally1, he is the second worst classified driver in the championship (above Kaur who did only a R5 outing in Sweden).
In WRC-2, good job by Gryazin to secure the win; beginning of maturity?
Great job by Jan Solans and Pajari considering their experience; good speed by Huttunen sometimes with the Rally2 but two punctures.
And Ingram, as I said, consistent.
TypeR
5th June 2022, 15:18
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Hüttünen
5th June 2022, 15:28
I’m guessing once he saw he wasn’t comfortable with the car and he did mention a number of times that the car isn’t turning and isn’t doing what he wants, he just managed his pace and made sure he’d get to the end, and even pushed on the power stage and as a result came away with 14 points this weekend. If his rivals, A. had better (more reliable) cars and B. took that approach more often, when they see they don’t have the pace, then perhaps this year would’ve been a different story.
Besides Fourmaux, Evans was a bit disappointing this weekend, his driving reminded me more when he was back in M-Sport, too ragged, too scruffy. Back to Tanak for a second, this weekend felt like the first time ever since he left from Toyota like his old self, coming to the rally, fighting for the win, his rivals falter and then he comes and dominates the event with 10 stage wins; If the car now has the pace, I hope they get they’re reliability sorted out soon so we’ll get an emphatic battle in Estonia-Finland-Ypres, NZ (fingers crossed) & Catalunya.
Yeah. He didn’t felt comfortable with the car but on the other hand, choosing the right setup is one of the most important part in driver’s profession. Maybe he got just sloppy after 3 wins in a row.
Tänak was excellent. After long time. Kenya will be interesting to see.
Evans was surprisingly good after he moved to Toyota. But this season he has going many steps backwards.
Literally!!
Would also love to see them jumping in the harbor. It's been (almost) two long years since last time
gallery:
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Yeah. He didn’t felt comfortable with the car but on the other hand, choosing the right setup is one of the most important part in driver’s profession. Maybe he got just sloppy after 3 wins in a row.
Tänak was excellent. After long time. Kenya will be interesting to see.
Evans was surprisingly good after he moved to Toyota. But this season he has going many steps backwards.
Well I’m sure he’ll comeback stronger next time out.
gallery:
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Thanks!!!
drive
5th June 2022, 15:57
happy team gets refreshing dip to the sea :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1S1mP9O5V8
TypeR
5th June 2022, 16:14
5 years apart
https://www.upload.ee/image/14202963/IMG_20220605_191744.jpg
EstWRC
5th June 2022, 16:48
haha Martin with a backflip jump into the water! and familiar face there in the Delfi gallery besides Ott and Martin :)
USER47
5th June 2022, 16:51
If Kalle will continue this Greensmith-Katsuta level pace he showed in Sardegna, he will definitely face serious troubles. If he will focus more in driving, not talking, he should won Title easily.
Ogier has been off the pace in plenty of individual rallies, yet at the end of the season he came out on top more often than not. If anything, the fact Rovanpera wasn't going for some reckless push despite not being comfortable with the car, shows certain maturity. Ogier won the championship 8 times because he could pick his battles and sacrifice individual wins for safe point finishes. And he also won because his rivals couldn't do the same. So far it seems Rovanpera does, which can only help him in long term.
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