Rally Sweden 2022

[wwbroe]

Neuville into the lead now

[Sulland]

They need new tires for the SSS!

[EstWRC]

Evans, Lappi and Solberg have a lot to learn about tyre saving…

[TypeR]

Rovanperä and Neuville must have been with 2 spares..

[wyler]

Don't you think that, what you are saying is pretty bs..?
Driving style or setup makes the HY system to error? :lol:
Then it should stay in the office not racing.

honestly? nope.

driving style or setup can be more stressful on the car than others and cause damage on any part.
and no one here can still say what caused the hybrid to turn red. for example, front bumpers don't usually come off by themself. maybe going on with some of that damage interacted with the system or triggered an error.

still, u are allowed to think everything is bs, no worries, i don't care in arguing. anyway, as they says "lots of clues in the end become proofs..."

[wyler]

To paraphrase myself, if it's the hybrid unit that's failed, it's not exactly Ott or Martin's fault, is it?

i'm speaking generally. it's starting to sound strange to me that so much misfortune happens always to the same drivers (emphasis on final s...)

[er88]

Incredible day for Kalle and Thierry considering 1st and 2nd on the road (for most of the day).

[wwbroe]

Veiby made mistake, loosing a lot on first split

[wwbroe]

Mikkelsen in the lead now in WRC2

[Eli]

Incredible day for Kalle and Thierry considering 1st and 2nd on the road (for most of the day).

If Thierry doesn’t muck it up & his car holds to the finish, he might actually win. Early days however.

[seb_sh]

Interesting first day, seems Hyundai is not so slow. Disappointed with Breen.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

If it's the hybrid unit that's failed, it's not exactly Hyundai's fault, is it?

Do we know why it failed though ? Maybe it wasn't fitted right...

[dimviii]

very good drive from Huttunen.

[wwbroe]

very good drive from Huttunen.

Yes, pitty he lost so much on two passes on long stage

[EstWRC]

very good drive from Huttunen.

and Linnamäe, really surprised with his speed here today

on the other hand, Kaur is going backwards with his speed with every event

[logic]

Do we know why it failed though ? Maybe it wasn't fitted right...

So you are saying its Hyundai´s fault?

[dimviii]

Yes, pitty he lost so much on two passes on long stage

SS7: Huttunen (WRC2)

A positive day for the Fiesta star. Had it not been for a stall on the start line of SS5 he could have been in contention for the WRC2 lead.



"It's okay but I am really annoyed because I stalled the engine two times today. I lost so much time there, but otherwise I think it's quite okay.

[er88]

Julie Porter saying a heavy landing after a jump is what affected the hybrid system on Tanaks car.

[ouvreur]

do we know why it failed though ? Maybe it wasn't fitted right...

l o l

[EstWRC]

Virtual #WRC drivers championship points after SS7 of Rally Sweden
36 Neuville
35 Rovanpera
27 Loeb
19 Evans
19 Ogier
15 Breen
14 Greensmith
12 Lappi
12 Katsuta
10 Solberg
8 Mikkelsen
6 Fourmaux
0 Tanak

[AnttiL]

Virtual #WRC drivers championship points after SS7 of Rally Sweden
36 Neuville
35 Rovanpera
27 Loeb
19 Evans
19 Ogier
15 Breen
14 Greensmith
12 Lappi
12 Katsuta
10 Solberg
8 Mikkelsen
6 Fourmaux
0 Tanak

And next rally is on tarmac where the roads will be very dirty....then a great start position for Portugal and Sardinia

[dimviii]

Virtual #WRC drivers championship points after SS7 of Rally Sweden
36 Neuville
35 Rovanpera
27 Loeb
19 Evans
19 Ogier
15 Breen
14 Greensmith
12 Lappi
12 Katsuta
10 Solberg
8 Mikkelsen
6 Fourmaux
0 Tanak
sorry EstWRC couldnt resist! lol
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMdoT6pX0AQOuIB?format=jpg&name=small

[wyler]

Don't you think that, what you are saying is pretty bs..?
Driving style or setup makes the HY system to error? :lol:
Then it should stay in the office not racing.


Julie Porter saying a heavy landing after a jump is what affected the hybrid system on Tanaks car.

so maybe not a complete bs? :eek:

[focus206]

so maybe not a complete bs? :eek:

I get what you mean, driving style certainly affect durability of some components and Ott is at times too harsh with his car. But when it's always Hyundai resulting more fragile and less reliable than Toyota, one has to ask himself some questions...

[krissucool]

I get what you mean, driving style certainly affect durability of some components and Ott is at times too harsh with his car. But when it's always Hyundai resulting more fragile and less reliable than Toyota, one has to ask himself some questions...

Well it used to be Toyota that was always the more fragile and less reliable when Ott was there...

[wyler]

I get what you mean, driving style certainly affect durability of some components and Ott is at times too harsh with his car. But when it's always Hyundai resulting more fragile and less reliable than Toyota, one has to ask himself some questions...

that's for sure. hiunday being late in development and past history is out of doubt.
still, some rumors on tanak leaving toyota were (also) about too many issues on the car.

to be clear, not a hater of tanak, just lining up some thinkings. hope he will bounce back in the mix. wrc needs his character in the fight, and his crown speaks for his speed.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Julie Porter saying a heavy landing after a jump is what affected the hybrid system on Tanaks car.

But 3 massive testing crashes didnt. The hybrid is fine up to massive G-forces.

What was different in Tanaks case ?

[focus206]

Well it used to be Toyota that was always the more fragile and less reliable when Ott was there...

Yes, but that's few years ago already. Ott always had above average number of troubles compared to other drivers, but in the past couple of years he and Neuville were plagued by troubles way too often for it to be attributed only to drivers.

[dimviii]

Passats de canto video
https://youtu.be/d38C0M9wUpI

[logic]

But 3 massive testing crashes didnt. The hybrid is fine up to massive G-forces.

What was different in Tanaks case ?

You can have a crash where everything survives and have one with less G force in the right area and it does not. It is not as black and white as you think it is.

[EstWRC]

Well it used to be Toyota that was always the more fragile and less reliable when Ott was there...

At Toyota the other guys were also having a lot of problems, in 2019 the only failure it had in Otts hands was the notorious Sardegna PS stage power steering failure, which also Latvala had and was because of faulty part as i remember? the 2019 Yaris must have been quite a tank then :D

the guys who are saying he has agressive style or being too harsh with the car, can you explain more? its not that im not believing you or defending Ott, it just really interests me cause theres definitely a pattern with him having a lot of mechanical troubles compared to others and it just cant be bad luck all the time.

For me his style doesnt seem that agressive, especially after the period he was teammates with Ogier, you could see the change. I remember in 2020 before Rally Mexico, our rally legend Murakas was asked who will be 1-2 at the rally? He answered that Ogier and Tänak, and when asked why, he said cause those two have the smoothest style and you need it in Mexico. and guess what, the result was 1-2 at that rally in that order.

Last year when had the rear suspension failure at POrtugal, i went and looked all the onboards until that stage, including that one, cause a lot of guys here said he drives aggresively. Again, so smooth and nice style, not letting the car slide at all and keeping it on middle of the road. I remember George Donaldson sayin the same at Dirthfish podcast after he looked the same onboards.

is he then hitting things at wrong times then, pushing at wrong time, landing badly or whats the issue?

[AnttiL]

My guess has been that it's something in the way he sets the car up combined with the driving style, making the car bottom out or something. But I'm not an engineer. If Tänak and Ogier have similar driving styles, how come Ogier has so little technical faults? Maybe Ogier knows when to go 100% and when to ease off? Tänak keeps smashing the stage times until the car breaks down

[EstWRC]

My guess has been that it's something in the way he sets the car up combined with the driving style, making the car bottom out or something. But I'm not an engineer. If Tänak and Ogier have similar driving styles, how come Ogier has so little technical faults? Maybe Ogier knows when to go 100% and when to ease off? Tänak keeps smashing the stage times until the car breaks down

not the same style, but both are smooth Murakas said

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Hyundai frustrated as hybrid issue ends Tanak's WRC victory chance

Hyundai has described Ott Tanak’s Rally Sweden retirement as “very frustrating” after a hybrid issue out of the team’s hands ended the Estonian’s bid for a World Rally Championship victory.

Tanak was firmly in the fight for the win having won two stages on Friday placing the 2019 world champion 1.1 seconds adrift of the lead when drama struck.

Tanak had completed the final 10km of stage five with a hybrid issue, which then triggered a red warning light on his car that required him to stop on a road section.

As per new Rally1 hybrid FIA regulations such a situation requires the team to retire the car as a safety precaution.

The team is then unable to touch the car until it is declared safe by hybrid unit supplier Compact Dynamics.

This is the first time the new regulations have been put to use since the launch of the new Rally1 rules.

Speaking to Autosport, Hyundai deputy team director Julien Moncet declared the situation frustrating given Tanak had been challenging for the lead.

“It is very frustrating for us and for him,” said Moncet. “He did an incredible race up until this point and he could have been in a leading position, it is not his fault at all.

“During the stage, Ott had an issue with the hybrid which triggered, later on, the red light and of course due to the regulations, and as a safety precaution, we decided to stop him.

“There is a rule in place that when you trigger the red light that the car has to go into quarantine so Compact Dynamics and the FIA make sure the car is safe before we actually touch it.

“This is a new process and unfortunately we are the first one to test it so for sure we have to work together.

“We will investigate what has happened and we will investigate with Compact Dynamics and FIA.

“It is not really clear what happened, the car is still not back. It is bit frustrating but let’s go through the whole investigation process.”


Inadvertently Tanak’s demise did however help the cause for Hyundai’s two remaining entries.

A late surge in the final two stages lifted Thierry Neuville into a 4.3s rally lead over Toyota’s Kalle Rovanpera, which he will take into Saturday, while Solberg sits in fifth position.

Prior to the event, Moncet declared a podium was achievable in Sweden despite the team’s woeful start to the season in Monte Carlo last month, but is refusing to celebrate the improved pace until the results are secured.

“We have to wait for Sunday afternoon - we have seen a lot of issues for our competitors through the rally, it is far from being over,” he added.

“We are of course pleased with the result so far, but the rally is not over yet.

“We have shown some improvement in terms of performance. If we manage to get a podium or podiums then I think it will be more than welcome.”


https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/hyundai-frustrated-as-hybrid-issue-ends-tanaks-wrc-victory-chance/8497862/

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMeKr8JWUAUDiSM?format=jpg&name=large

[dimviii]

Ott Tänak
@OttTanak
·
4m
Today has been unreal, but nothing we could have done differently. Rallying is still in our blood, we won’t give up and we go again tomorrow!

[steve.mandzij]

On the topic of the red light, there were a number of incidents in Extreme E races where bumps and bottoming out of the trucks caused the electric powertrains to grind to a complete halt.

I'm worried, if bumps and compressions can cause this, for rallies like Finland or even Kenya

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[seb_sh]

They need to improve it but nobody else had problems... Might be a fluke, let's see

[doubled1978]

At Toyota the other guys were also having a lot of problems, in 2019 the only failure it had in Otts hands was the notorious Sardegna PS stage power steering failure, which also Latvala had and was because of faulty part as i remember? the 2019 Yaris must have been quite a tank then :D

the guys who are saying he has agressive style or being too harsh with the car, can you explain more? its not that im not believing you or defending Ott, it just really interests me cause theres definitely a pattern with him having a lot of mechanical troubles compared to others and it just cant be bad luck all the time.

For me his style doesnt seem that agressive, especially after the period he was teammates with Ogier, you could see the change. I remember in 2020 before Rally Mexico, our rally legend Murakas was asked who will be 1-2 at the rally? He answered that Ogier and Tänak, and when asked why, he said cause those two have the smoothest style and you need it in Mexico. and guess what, the result was 1-2 at that rally in that order.

Last year when had the rear suspension failure at POrtugal, i went and looked all the onboards until that stage, including that one, cause a lot of guys here said he drives aggresively. Again, so smooth and nice style, not letting the car slide at all and keeping it on middle of the road. I remember George Donaldson sayin the same at Dirthfish podcast after he looked the same onboards.

is he then hitting things at wrong times then, pushing at wrong time, landing badly or whats the issue?

From what I have seen over the last few years I would agree, Tanak seems to me to have evolved to have a very neat and tidy style. However I do think he is the outright fastest guy in the championship, if I had to put money on one guy to win a 1 stage shootout, it would be him. That said he does seem to have an unusual amount of bad luck, but if that is attributable to him in any way, who knows?

[hari]

Some pictures from Friday: https://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_wrc_rallye_schweden_2022.html

https://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/sweden2/1.jpg
https://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/sweden2/2.jpg
https://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/sweden2/3.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/sweden2/5.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/sweden2/6.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/sweden2/7.jpg

[henzo]

From what I've seen with Ogier in similar situations (eg running over a policeman whos trying to stop him) I think Tänak should have just winged it and go for it.
I mean, if he gets penalized or dq for that - so what, his season is already probably screwed either way.
But maybe another big bump wouldve fixed the hybrid system? It works for some of my electronics :D

[becher]

A "neat and tidy" driving style doesn't automatically translate to little stress on the car. It's not just about oversteer.

[AnttiL]

In case you're wondering, SS2 was red flagged because Nagle pressed accidentally the SOS button

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMgKVXWXoAASHHV?format=png&name=small

[EstWRC]

Morning

Tänak is continuing as I see, starting second after Breen

Neuville was mega yesterday with his tyre saving but with Kalle having a good starting position today I think my money is on him

[TypeR]

Tänak:
,,Yea, you know what happened is.. definitely a kind of joke, which maybe sometimes should make you cry, but actually makes you laugh. Because you know, in rallying if you have 4 wheels and the car is driving and some third party company says you need to come out of the competition it shows that there is no system at the moment in this big operation.
It's quite a joke, but okay we continue.''

[AnttiL]

A "neat and tidy" driving style doesn't automatically translate to little stress on the car. It's not just about oversteer.

The reference by Murakas was about needing a smooth driving style in Mexico, my assumption is that it references to not damaging the car.

[AnttiL]

BTW one reason my stage average speed estimates failed is that I didn't realize there's so much snow on the roads, they look narrower than on the recce videos and the snowbanks are "flooding" onto the road. Furthermore, I didn't think about tyre wear and darkness at all, they have made the last stages of the loop and last stages of the day slower.

[Rallyper]

Morning.

[Rallyper]

Seems splits doesn´t work on WRC.com... working for you?

[EstWRC]

others also not getting splits in wrc plus?

[EstWRC]

Tyre info: only Gus with 2 spares

[jonkka]

Seems splits doesn´t work on WRC.com... working for you?

Nope, unfortunately.

[BleAivano]

Seems splits doesn´t work on WRC.com... working for you?


It's WRC.com you are talking about, have they ever worked? ;)

[TypeR]

It's WRC.com you are talking about, have they ever worked? ;)

let's wait for some excuses again :D

[EstWRC]

started to work now on live maps

[jonkka]

It's WRC.com you are talking about, have they ever worked? ;)

In fact, they just started working...

EDIT: Maybe? Numbers seem very odd...

[Rallyper]

Splits working now.

Someone was sleepy and didn´t push the button... :)

[EstWRC]

slow split for Oliver

[Rallyper]

Oliver going too wide

[EstWRC]

thats a horrible time from him

[Rallyper]

Toyota stage.

[EstWRC]

Kalle not very fast in the split

[Rallyper]

Still Toyota stage... ;)

[EstWRC]

Neuville also with a bad time, Kalle into the lead

tehcnical parts didnt suit Hyundai yesterday either

[Rallyper]

They have hours until next stage. Why not show more of the WRC2 cars??? WHY?

[EstWRC]

another nice time from Linnamäe and takes third from Gryazin

[rage82]

another nice time from Linnamäe and takes third from GryazinNot enough onboard cameras as discussed so many times here.

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[rage82]

They have hours until next stage. Why not show more of the WRC2 cars??? WHY?Not enough onboard cameras as discussed so many times here.

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[Sulland]

Not enough onboard cameras as discussed so many times here.

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Then they just need to buy more, also for the WRC3/Juniors. They really need the publicity!!

[AnttiL]

There's all kinds of factors. There's a long break until the next two stages so likely the transmitter aeroplane needs to go refuel in between so maybe their time was up? I dunno. I always like to assume positive when the reasons are uknonwn, and I would want to believe they want to show as much cars as technically is possible.

Also, I would be interested in the numbers of stream viewers after the last Rally1/WRC car has passed, does everyone still stay around for the WRC2 cars or do half of the viewers shut off?

[240RS]

Thought I better use the lengthy wait to the next stage to present a few early conclusions to the season so far:
1. Toyota are a class act and clearly the team with the best car/driver balance.
2. MSport Ford could do with a top, top driver. Unfortunately, none available. At least on a full-time basis.
3. Hyundai are undeniably playing catch-up and seem not to have the best base car for the series. We may find they are quicker in some coming events, but it's no secret they are behind both Toyota AND Ford in real terms.
4. Rally2 offers fantastic entertainment. Very close, and very unpredictable.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMgzEAuWYAIvpbK?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[rage82]

Then they just need to buy more, also for the WRC3/Juniors. They really need the publicity!!Totally agree with you!

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[Sulland]

Impressive drive by Reiersen/Johanson in their Rally4 Fiesta. Running to clock experience in the car, and improve his driving.

Many drivers did that in the past. Now the budget to do your local WRC round has become to high for most people to even try to plan for it.

[EstWRC]

Boost not working for Ott if the graphic is showing correct

[MTA]

Impressive drive by Reiersen/Johanson in their Rally4 Fiesta. Running to clock experience in the car, and improve his driving.

Many drivers did that in the past. Now the budget to do your local WRC round has become to high for most people to even try to plan for it.

Very impressive considering how little he has driven. He drove his first rally with notes this year.

[Rallyper]

129,9 km/h average on SS10 (Breen)

[EstWRC]

Tänak has had hell of a second part of the stage or the others aren’t pushing there. Massive losses from others drivers but let’s wait for the leaders

Katsuta actually came pretty well the second part

[Sulland]

WRC.com all live need to change the colorsheme on the splits. Small Red numbers on dark blue, is very hard to read on small screens.

[dimviii]

Powerstage Podcast
@PWRSTAGE
·
16m
Ott and Martin said that “we didn’t get even one boost” after the stage

[RS2500]

How good is this stage ... In fact the whole rally

[EstWRC]

Powerstage Podcast
@PWRSTAGE
·
16m
Ott and Martin said that “we didn’t get even one boost” after the stage

Even more impressive then

Kalle beat him by just 0.1 secs

[RS2500]

wow ... big balls Rovanpera there , didnt lift off at all

[Rallyper]

How good is this stage ... In fact the whole rally

I see your quote. Yeah one could wonder. Environment perfect, but...

[TypeR]

blabla answers
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/compact-dynamics-apologizes-for-tanak-hybrid-failure/

[satukata]

Where i can find rallyradio?

[Sulland]

Good fight back from Veiby, takes back the lead in the Polo.

[dimviii]

Huttunen lost a lot..

[erikli2]

Where i can find rallyradio?

The Swedish rally radio can be found at www.rallyradion.se

[EstWRC]

The rear bumpers just don’t want to stay on Toyotas this year

[EstWRC]

what has happened with Oliver and Thierry over night

[jonkka]

Thierry overshoots a junction.

[jonkka]

Toyota 1-2-3

[Sulland]

Oliver has gotten from the team that he scores points, so get to the finish.
He also says that he is struggeling a bit to gel with the car today.

[AnttiL]

My average speed estimates for today's stages weren't that bad: I had estimated Brattby to be 23s too fast, Långed 10s too slow and Umeå only 2s too fast.

[dimviii]

Breen off at ss 2 from different camera
https://twitter.com/ma_ipp/status/1497546905903108096

[Rallyper]

Oliver said new suspension today wasn´t same as yesterday, as it should´ve been. They try to get settings from yesterday back in the afternoon loop.

[WRCStan]

Did anyone see Huttunen's door fly open at the start of that last stage. It's no big deal, but I'm not usually the only guy to spot something. Expected Julian or Paul to say something.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice to see a stage win for Breen and the Puma. A good confidence boost.

[AnttiL]

Remember how Breen was "clever" for not taking power stage points in Monte and letting Kalle open the road?

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/the-title-fight-tactic-breen-has-already-deployed/

He will never get those lost points back, and now the first car on the road is leading the rally.

[cali]

The rear bumpers just don’t want to stay on Toyotas this yearI wonder why? Last year Hyundai was the same and now Toyota has taken a step forward

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Remember how Breen was "clever" for not taking power stage points in Monte and letting Kalle open the road?

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/the-title-fight-tactic-breen-has-already-deployed/

He will never get those lost points back, and now the first car on the road is leading the rally.

But for all their Monte wins, how many Sweden wins had Loeb and Ogier due to opening the road...

[Rallyper]

Did anyone see Huttunen's door fly open at the start of that last stage. It's no big deal, but I'm not usually the only guy to spot something. Expected Julian or Paul to say something.

Yeah I saw...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice time by Gus and Fourmaux going well on the better lines.

[jonkka]

Nice time by Gus and Fourmaux going well on the better lines.

Or rather, Breen's time was quite slow. See how much faster Katsuta is.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The rear bumpers just don’t want to stay on Toyotas this year

WRCWings @llluis555

The modular design of the Toyota GR Yaris #Rally1 rear bumper allows that only rear of the fender is lost in case of side impact (allowing air removal from the wheel space, good for grip), while the other cars would lose part/all bumper. A wise design.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMhSqCDXEAMtm0V?format=jpg&name=small

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Or rather, Breen's time was quite slow. See how much faster Katsuta is.

I meant more they are both within 0.5s of Tanak.

Plus Greensmith stalled at the start and lost 5seconds...

[AnttiL]

Neuville seemed quite ragged, car bouncing all over

[AnttiL]

But for all their Monte wins, how many Sweden wins had Loeb and Ogier due to opening the road...

Ogier won 2015 and 2016 Swedens starting first on the road. Loeb did the same in 2004.

The point is that these guys didn't play these tactics, didn't give up points and they became champions.

[TypeR]

Ogier won 2015 and 2016 Swedens starting first on the road. Loeb did the same in 2004.

The point is that these guys didn't play these tactics, didn't give up points and they became champions.

and that's why they are the best and most successful drivers in the history :) point is point. better starting position doesn't guarantee you a win

[MTA]

No power Breen

[seb_sh]

Since Loeb is not there the Fords are falling apart and looking like last year.

[TypeR]

interesting.. Ford flat out +-10kmh slower than Hyundai

[er88]

Poor weekend Msport.

[Kenneth]

Since Loeb is not there the Fords are falling apart and looking like last year.

Well did anyone really expected some results from Breen, Greensmith and Formaux in Sweden? They could drive any car and still would be underdogs in Sweden.

[1988senna]

My understanding for why the Msport is so slow is because the Sweden rally have more long straight ,So there have less use for battery and more depend on the engine power. So we can see the Ford performance back to last year and the Hyundai also beome stronger suddenly, Is that right?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier won 2015 and 2016 Swedens starting first on the road. Loeb did the same in 2004.

The point is that these guys didn't play these tactics, didn't give up points and they became champions.

Breen's job was different in Monte - he had to finish and couldn't risk an off on the PS.

[rallyfiend]

My understanding for why the Msport is so slow is because the Sweden rally have more long straight ,So there have less use for battery and more depend on the engine power. So we can see the Ford performance back to last year and the Hyundai also beome stronger suddenly, Is that right?

It's more likely to do with the gearbox.

There are much less options available for ratios / ramps with these new cars.

[MTA]

Oliver is standing still after SS 14

[ELPE]

Oliver is standing still after SS 14

Trottleproblem?

[jonkka]

Evans off in final corner...

[MTA]

Trottleproblem?

Yes

[Essaj]

That was something else :D

[MTA]

Evans off in final corner...

What do the rules say? Does he have to take the right way into TK?

[becher]

WRCWings @llluis555

The modular design of the Toyota GR Yaris #Rally1 rear bumper allows that only rear of the fender is lost in case of side impact (allowing air removal from the wheel space, good for grip), while the other cars would lose part/all bumper. A wise design.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMhSqCDXEAMtm0V?format=jpg&name=small

The way it is shaped really makes it look like they loose it on purpose.

[TypeR]

Rear bumping up so much.. have seen that on testing and we will see that mamy more times soon on gravel rallies..

Seems dangerous

[jonkka]

What do the rules say? Does he have to take the right wat into TK?

That is somewhat confusing situation, I do not know what arch it was. Since he got a time and a fast one at that, he must have finished the stage OK and off was after flying finish. If by TK you mean time control (TC), then answer is yes. You have to follow route set in road book.

[MTA]

That is somewhat confusing situation, I do not know what arch it was. Since he got a time and a fast one at that, he must have finished the stage OK and off was after flying finish. If by TK you mean time control (TC), then answer is yes. You have to follow route set in road book.

Sorry TK in swedish but TC in english.
I could not see that he went over the wall again so he must have passed TC on the wrong side.

[TypeR]

Neuville once again doing all the work.. Solberg and Tänak just cruising with no effort..

[MTA]

Neuville once again doing all the work.. Solberg and Tänak just cruising with no effort..

Solberg has a car that barely moves forward.

[er88]

Hyundai with more technical issues, but Msport with two engine? issues for Breen and Fourmaux is not a good look either....

Toyota laughing.

[MTA]

Sorry TK in swedish but TC in english.
I could not see that he went over the wall again so he must have passed TC on the wrong side.

He drove the road out on the VIP parking lot.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Greensmith's Ford is currently taking Manu points off Hyundai.

[bandit12]

And what Tanak should do now?

[KiwiWRCfan]

Animated overall leaderboard graphic updated to SS15
Made using flourish graphics.
Check out feature to open a photo off each drivers avatar
https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/8814466/

[EstWRC]

Virtual #WRC drivers championship points after SS15 of Rally Sweden

42 Rovanpera
26 Neuville
27 Loeb
22 Evans
19 Ogier
18 Greensmith
15 Breen
14 Katsuta
12 Lappi
10 Mikkelsen
6 Solberg
0 Tanak
0 Fourmaux

Tänak has a mountain to climb compared to Kalle. Doesn’t look that hopeless against others if he manages to get 5 points tomorrow

Kalle would have quite a margin already compared to others if he wins tomorrow

[dimviii]

Tanak sideways with top speed
https://twitter.com/anttikalhola/status/1497650501093056515


Εvans stage end off
https://twitter.com/ma_ipp/status/1497653843622043650

[EstWRC]

https://youtu.be/dssozv7frrc

[Eli]

Virtual #WRC drivers championship points after SS15 of Rally Sweden

42 Rovanpera
26 Neuville
27 Loeb
22 Evans
19 Ogier
18 Greensmith
15 Breen
14 Katsuta
12 Lappi
10 Mikkelsen
6 Solberg
0 Tanak
0 Fourmaux

Tänak has a mountain to climb compared to Kalle. Doesn’t look that hopeless against others if he manages to get 5 points tomorrow

Kalle would have quite a margin already compared to others if he wins tomorrow

Virtual #WRC drivers championship points after SS15 of Rally Sweden*

42 Rovanperä
27 Loeb
26 Neuville
22 Evans
19 Ogier
18 Greensmith
15 Breen
14 Katsuta
12 Lappi
10 Mikkelsen
6 Solberg
0 Tänak
0 Fourmaux

And that’s before the power stage tomorrow; Hopefully our Rally2 runners will manage to pick some points although I’m sure Evans, Neuville & Rovanperä will manage to post the 3 fastest times unless they make a mistake like today or their car lets them down.

[hari]

Some pictures from Saturday: https://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_wrc_rallye_schweden_2022.html

https://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/sweden3/2.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/sweden3/3.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/sweden3/1.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/sweden3/4.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/sweden3/5.jpghttps://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2022/sweden3/6.jpg

[dimviii]

Νeuville lucky escape
https://twitter.com/ma_ipp/status/1497684199003901952

[dimviii]

PG Andersson SS15 Umeå 2
#WRC #RallySweden
�� Jaska Nuora

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMjeXw1XwAAuVn7?format=jpg&name=large

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMj3ckoXoAMGBld?format=jpg&name=large

[Danny0405]

If confirmed, Rovanpera is in good situation for the win (but let’s be cautious because Ogier was in MC) but it would be a good fight for podium.

Some other fights to see between Mikkelsen and Veiby for WRC-2 (even if Mikkelsen seems to have a little margin) and between Armstrong and Joona for WRC-3 Junior.

[RS2500]

Neuville not happy about the penalty given to Evans . Said he expected it to be lot more than 10 seconds

[TypeR]

Second pass cancelled for this stage?
Way too high avg speed, 140kmh

[AnttiL]

Second pass cancelled for this stage?
Way too high avg speed, 140kmh

139 for Oliver and the top guys coming faster...

[EstWRC]

That’s a shame. I was hoping for a fight for victory today.

Why there was 6 minutes gap between Tänak and Solberg?

[AnttiL]

Also, Fourmaux retired

[EstWRC]

Second pass cancelled for this stage?
Way too high avg speed, 140kmh

Don’t think so as it is power stage.

They will put some things on the straights

[MTA]

That’s a shame. I was hoping for a fight for victory today.

Why there was 6 minutes gap between Tänak and Solberg?

Fourmaux is standning still on the route out to stage.

[AnttiL]

Don’t think so as it is power stage.

They will put some things on the straights

This is not the power stage. They cannot make chicanes at this point.

[TypeR]

Don’t think so as it is power stage.

They will put some things on the straights
SS17 is ,,PS''

[Sulland]

They need to find or adjust some roads for next year. Little challenges for the drivers, and boring for us!

[jonkka]

SS17 is PS

You mean SS19, the second run of SS17.

[MTA]

Oh no! Evans is out.

[TypeR]

again Sunday and Evans can't manage the pressure..

[EstWRC]

My bad this isn’t ps stage. Sorry

Horrible season beginning for Evans also, two mistakes in a row

[AnttiL]

140.73 km/h for Kalle on the stage, let's see if FIA cancels second run.

It seemed Evans had hybrid not working and Kalle said the same

Very bad season start for Evans, two times he would have been on the podium had he taken it a bit more cautiously to give up the win (like Ogier would have done) but instead he has overdriven it now three times this season.

[EstWRC]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220227/77bc49d1d7586c35a6df5a39e29dfa92.jpg

[EstWRC]

Gus would be third in the championship(minus Loeb) if the results stay as they are now without PS points

If Kalle also manages to win PS stage the he has hell of a lead already

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220227/f9628f3b01be17190c63526aa80e3964.jpg

[Rally Hokkaido]

SS17 start delayed: spectators being moved

[Rallyper]

Well, i don´t like that PS. Way too fast and wide. No excitement at all...

126,95 km/h for Tanak...

[jonkka]

Some pundits thought that Evans would be the title favourite for 2022. He's going to have four (!) points after two rounds.

[EstWRC]

Some pundits thought that Evans would be the title favourite for 2022. He's going to have four (!) points after two rounds.

It’s just the second rally. But yeah Kalle will have quite a lead already

I for instance like this PS stage

[Rallyper]

No splits from PS on Live timing...

[TypeR]

Some pundits thought that Evans would be the title favourite for 2022. He's going to have four (!) points after two rounds.

Evans and Tänak are giving a nice lead to Rovanperä nd Neuville after 2 rallies..
Neuvilles chance this year?

[EstWRC]

Tänak must improve a little the first part of the stage where he wasn’t fastest otherwise awesome

[MTA]

Evans has finished on SS 16 now

[wwbroe]

Veiby with good time, only 4,8 behind Andreas now overall

[dimviii]

Lappi ss 4

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMll6RaWYAE0Bvw?format=jpg&name=large

[EstWRC]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220227/ad092427aeebb0c983f798d6f3f886bf.jpg

[wwbroe]

Armstrong now in the lead in WRC3, just 0.5 sec in front of Joona now

[er88]

God awful start to the year for Tanak and Evans. Would've been terminal for both if Ogier was still here I feel.

Kalle driving superbly, but we don't know if he will/ can go a whole season having only 2 bad scores like Ogier would.

[Sulland]

Who will take a chance to push on SS18 to get a stage win in Sweden?

[EstWRC]

we have to do something with the sundays

skip them at all or just do the power stage 2 times? something has to be found against this borefest

[er88]

This cruising is embarrassing, and unfortunate for the spectators.

I'm at the point where they need to let everyone bolt on fresh tyres for the power stage - just for the fans sake. Folk will still drive the Sunday morning stages with a margin, but they won't be driving at 50% speed like this

[MTA]

It's ridiculous how slow they drive to save tires. The WRC needs the same rules as the JWRC with points for each distance, especially the last day. Or free tires on the last day.

[Eli]

God awful start to the year for Tanak and Evans. Would've been terminal for both if Ogier was still here I feel.

Kalle driving superbly, but we don't know if he will/ can go a whole season having only 2 bad scores like Ogier would.

If it continues like this, even if Rovanperä has 2 bad scores it won’t be as critical seeing everyone else’s season so far.

[Rallyper]

Sundays have become a joke...

[Rally Hokkaido]

Paul Nagle's voice is in cruise mode!

[er88]

Imagine being a spectator on this stage ffs

[AnttiL]

Sundays have become a joke...

We still have podium positions to decide (and Evans crashing out was a part of that)

[Sulland]

It's ridiculous how slow they drive to save tires. The WRC needs the same rules as the JWRC with points for each distance, especially the last day. Or free tires on the last day.

Agreed;
1. New tyres for all for power stage.
2. 1 point for all stage wins on sunday.
3. PS points 3-2-1, to have people fight also on sundays. 5 points is too much.

[Rallyper]

We still have podium positions to decide (and Evans crashing out was a part of that)

So Sundays is alright for you, then?

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Is Lappi driving for team points?

[er88]

Gryazin never learns....

[jonkka]

Is Lappi driving for team points?

Yes.

[dimviii]

Veiby lost a lot,now +22 sec from Mikkelsen




"I gave it my all. It's disappointing. I really tried but I hit a snowbank and spun around - I was quite lucky. That's rallying, but it's been a great fight with Andreas all weekend, That's how it goes sometimes."

[Rally Hokkaido]

Veiby into a bank, briefly.

[wwbroe]

What happened with Gryazin?

[dimviii]

Gryazin never learns....

i was thinking at previous stage,that Gryazin had a good rally so far without exits etc....

[dimviii]

What happened with Gryazin?

Gryazin off

Podium = gone. The youngster ran wide on a left-hander and his Fabia is beached on a snowbank.



He's gutted.

[wwbroe]

No splits for Huttunen?

[Rally Hokkaido]

Now let's see if Ott can grab 5 points.

[Hüttünen]

Power Stage prediction:
1 Rovanpera (even without hybrid)
2 Tänak
3 Neuville
4 Lappi
5 Katsuta

[dimviii]

nice photo from Kalle

https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/amp/0L1nw7P2/s1200/kalle-rovanpera-jonne-halttune.webp

[AnttiL]

So Sundays is alright for you, then?

It’s rallying.

[EstWRC]

Now let's see if Ott can grab 5 points.

impossible with those ruts and just some WRC2 cars in front

[Hüttünen]

Why just not do Power Sunday? Let’s just count Sunday’s SS times together and by the end of the day 5 points for the winner, 4 points to 2nd, 3 points to 3rd, 2 points for 4th and 1 point for 5th.

Then it wouldn’t make any sense to just wait and save tyres for the last Power Stage.

[wyler]

Why just not do Power Sunday? Let’s just count Sunday’s SS times together and by the end of the day 5 points for the winner, 4 points to 2nd, 3 points to 3rd, 2 points for 4th and 1 point for 5th.

Then it wouldn’t make any sense to just wait and save tyres for the last Power Stage.

maybe not enough tv drama for the last stage. i'd go more with point reward for any ss and keep the ps point

[Humber]

How about the power stage as the last stage on Saturday? with 3,2,1 points. On the Sunday have a joker points stage among the last stages. The stage that counted announced at the podium 3,2,1 points. The drivers would have to drive the Sunday consistently and not save the tyres/ effort for one power stage.

[Rallyper]

It’s rallying.

:) Well... not driving full speed?

[er88]

How about the power stage as the last stage on Saturday? with 3,2,1 points. On the Sunday have a joker points stage among the last stages. The stage that counted announced at the podium 3,2,1 points. The drivers would have to drive the Sunday consistently and not save the tyres/ effort for one power stage.Because its all about the promoter wanting the last stage power stage drama - for live TV. Every Sunday lunchtime.

Its why we have these identikit mickey mouse Sundays nowadays. Anyone who watches the power stage live would watch it whether it was 11am or 5pm, so I wish we could go back to full days on Sunday.

But that won't happen, and I doubt the promoter/ FIA will even want to hand out a point for every stage win on Sunday either.

The best we can hope for imo is new tyres being allocated before the power stage, but even then they'll moan about costs...

[Eli]

What are the issues Thierry is reporting back to the team? Anybody here knows?

[EstWRC]

Lol there was a big dick drawed on the snow on the field in the helicopter shot

[doubled1978]

The juvenile in me did have a chuckle when the helicopter just flew over a massive penis drawn in the snow on the power stage!

[MTA]

:D

[jonkka]

Reinforces old stereotypical view that Finns have of Swedes. All they think about is phallus. No offence meant.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Zero points for Breen is a painful blow after the Monte podium.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fair job by Greensmith given some early car issues. Some important Manu points too after the team-mates nil scores.

[EstWRC]

Very strong showing from Hyundais even without ideal set-up yet

Bodes well for upcoming gravel rallies with their jokers

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans confirms he fixed the car after the damage but had to retire due to no hybrid green light...

https://twitter.com/RalioS4C/status/1497904263321866242?s=20&t=8h1DzGyfUX4d_dLgwA2Udw

[TypeR]

Very happy for Rovanperä!
And respect for being only one who mentioned Ukraine and didn't want to celebrate so much..

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMmlMU7WYAAA6DL?format=jpg&name=large

[Rallyper]

Emil Lindholm fastest WRC2 car on PS. Way faster than 2nd.

[focus206]

Great job by Rovanpera, good from Neuville. Sorry for Tanak. Very bad start of the season for Evans, is the pressure of being Toyota #1 getting to him?
I confirm my feelings that Hyundai is not slow, but as usual more unreliable than at least Toyota.
Looking at the standings, Rovanpera has a very good chance this year. I think a lot will be played on how consistent he will be. Evans and Tanak have almost 0 points after 2 rounds, Neuville is doing good but Hyundai's reliability is what it is...
Btw after 2 rounds, I would have never expected to see Loeb in 3rd and Greensmith in 4th in the standings :D

[becher]

:) Well... not driving full speed?
Remember the good old days? With proper Safari and proper rallies not this 300km cloverleaf jokes we got today? What do you reckon Alen, Blomquist,.... did in a stage when the gaps were 5 minutes plus?

Rallying was never flat out all the way, it was allways about the balance.

[focus206]

Very strong showing from Hyundais even without ideal set-up yet

Bodes well for upcoming gravel rallies with their jokers

it bodes well speed wise, but if they don't sort out reliability the championship will be again a Toyota deal

[Danny0405]

Paradoxically, not a bad rally for Hyundai. Yeah, 2 big issues again (but one not necessarily coming from Hyundai) but their main chance to do something this year (Neuville in WDC) is the most spared driver for the moment. Neuville is not that far from Rovanpera in the WDC so if he can limit the loss in Croatia, he could be in the game after that with the series of gravel rallies.
The rhythm was quite good sometimes and Tanak will have good road positions for gravel (more to achieve wins that the championship IMO). For Solberg, the rally is rather good even if a drop in form + a technical issue on Day 2.

For Cinderella M-Sport, the coach is again a pumpkin. If some people seriously thought they could win a title this year, they’re back to reality.
Breen is not championship-material (especially with so few rallies driven in the last years) and Fourmaux and Greensmith are too soft.
Greensmith did a fair job as he was quite bad on snow and a pity for Fourmaux whose negative streak is still going even if not his fault this time.
The next 3-4 rallies will be complicated for them with Breen not having done the gravel ones for a while (and not convincing in Croatia last year) + Fourmaux who will need to finish first + Greensmith not having that good road position (neither do Breen compared with Ogier, Tanak or Evans).
More worrying, two engine failures.

For Toyota, it is clearly confirmed that the manufacturer title is in their pocket already,
Evans clearly disappointing so far: his «*new approach*» is clearly not working and the leadership is the team is at stake.
Great job by Rovanpera, let’s see if he can avoid a negative streak now.
Fair job by Lappi for a 1st drive this year, I think Toyota should have put him in Monte instead of Katsuta because he could have played a larger role; but ok, he brings the points needed.
Again a mistake for Katsuta but not a negative rally for him; he ends a negative streak with an average result and this time, he does not fail to take manufacturers points to Ford and Hyundai. Croatia will be complicated for him but with a steady drive there, it could give him back confidence for the gravel part.

In WRC-2, quite mitigated result; Mikkelsen has already put one hand on the title; the young Skoda bunch has already lost a lot of ground (2 bad results for Bulacia, 1 for Lindholm and Gryazin, 1 low result for Ingram in MC) so Toksport will need to follow with Mikkelsen to secure the title against Suninen, Rossel, Huttunen, Ostberg (not sure it was the initial plan).
For M-Sport, not that good also: Huttunen 3rd but no big rhythm and Adielsson DNF so a big loss in team championship.
Good drive from Veiby but too much at the limit.

In WRC-3, big fight between Armstrong and Joona won by the British which is a big blow.

[EstWRC]

https://youtu.be/tPADVgKhMXU

[MTA]

Rally Sweden has signed a 2-year contract with Umeå as a base.

[Danny0405]

One interesting point even if it is not related to this rally: there has been only one new rally winner since 2018 (Rovanpera).
Ok, it was after a period with quite a lot of new winners (8 new winners between 2013 and 2018) but, still, it is one of the biggest drought ever.
Only comparison is probably 2007-2011 with only Latvala and Ogier as new winners (with also Ostberg in 2012 on disqualification so not really counting).
Also 1995-1996 but there were much less rally in these 2 years.

Don’t mean Rovanpera will dominate for a while because there can be little time between a 1st victory and being title contender but, still, it is a good indicator that it’s a difficult period for newcomer currently.

[TypeR]

friend said, that today was the third time that they played Estonian anthem for Rovanperä(all his 3 wins)..

like how hard is it to name one song Finnish anthem and another Estonian anthem, and then play the right one :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sombre podium... assume this was just for the anthems.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMnRk3dXwAsYWDH?format=jpg&name=large

[AnttiL]

friend said, that today was the third time that they played Estonian anthem for Rovanperä(all his 3 wins)..

like how hard is it to name one song Finnish anthem and another Estonian anthem, and then play the right one :D

It’s the same tune but in Finnish version the second part is repeated.

[SubaruNorway]

My video from the event! Had a great time and actually having sun
for the whole weekend for the first time in 10 years or something sure helped!
https://youtu.be/xHgD5Z_vGcU

[BleAivano]

Contract signed for two more years in Umeå.

https://sverigesradio.se/artikel/klart-svenska-rallyt-far-nytt-avtal-fortsatter-i-umea

[BleAivano]

Two videos from service area focusing on the historical rally cars in Rally Sweden 2022. Both videos have Swedish narration/interviews.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT3hAYu2miw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUC0NsV3cTo

[Sso]

My video from the event! Had a great time and actually having sun
for the whole weekend for the first time in 10 years or something sure helped!
https://youtu.be/xHgD5Z_vGcUExcellent video as allways!!

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[DocMS]

What a rally to see in real time. Stages very close together, conditions absolutely perfect but not to put a negative spin the marshals need to be on the same page. In some stages when we arrived 2.5hrs before first car we where refused to walk along the stage to our marked spectator point, being told we must stay at this spectator location only. Then on other stages it wasn't an issue. Marshalling is a tough job and I have respect for the people who do this but for next year its something they need to work on.

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[Hartusvuori]

What a rally to see in real time. Stages very close together, conditions absolutely perfect but not to put a negative spin the marshals need to be on the same page. In some stages when we arrived 2.5hrs before first car we where refused to walk along the stage to our marked spectator point, being told we must stay at this spectator location only. Then on other stages it wasn't an issue. Marshalling is a tough job and I have respect for the people who do this but for next year its something they need to work on.

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We had exactly similar issues on a handful of stages. It was often as if only the marked areas were allowed. Sometimes you could continue walking further, sometimes they stopped. When there is no real reason for this, it's just annoying. Once they told me to take a marked detour instead of walking 200 meters on the road and continue. That was fine, because the reason was that a house owner didn't want anyone to pass their house - except the rally stage and spectators after the stage... Then, eventually, when spectating on a non-spectator zone, even with marshals, it was just fine. They just tried to deny the access, no matter was it 1,5 hours or 45 minutes before the stage. But I'm sure, comes the second year in Umeå, they are more experienced, know more about the spectator behaviour too and through that grow some common sense.

The weirdest thing happened yesterday when leaving Sarsjöliden after the first run. I walked from the field to the road after the last car. A marshal there said I couldn't walk on the stage. I said it was the last car. He asked where I was intending to go. I replied "back home to Finland". He just smiled and showed with his hand that "Finland is that way. Have a nice day!" I started to walk, but some 15 meters later another marshal from the field started to run in the waist deep snow ("run") shouting that I couldn't walk on the road. Fekking hell.

All in all, the event was really nice. Maybe because I wasn't expecting anything special, it turned out so good. Also, the weather after Thursday 11AM was just 10/10 perfect. I could've stood there in the woods even without the rally. Also, everything was super well organized. This year there were no seperate charges for parking and that made parking easy, no queues. Also good field parks. Snow was deep. This year we have had too a lot of snow. There have been winters on the Finnish side of the gulf with a lot less snow, so Umeå can't be snow-guaranteed, but it's more so than anything 800 km South from it. I'm most likely to return next year, I see no reason why not.

[Simmi]

What a rally to see in real time. Stages very close together, conditions absolutely perfect but not to put a negative spin the marshals need to be on the same page. In some stages when we arrived 2.5hrs before first car we where refused to walk along the stage to our marked spectator point, being told we must stay at this spectator location only. Then on other stages it wasn't an issue. Marshalling is a tough job and I have respect for the people who do this but for next year its something they need to work on.

Interesting to hear. I think this isn't a problem unique to Sweden - it happens on many rallies at all levels. Some marshals apply general common sense, others complete inflexibility. Human nature. But it's pretty infuriating when you encounter different stances within a few hundred metres. At least they don't try to fight you like in Spain!

How was it from spectator points viewing over the snowbanks? I've seen some pictures and videos seeing only windows and roofs. Must be important to get there early and find your own spots.

[Hartusvuori]

Interesting to hear. I think this isn't a problem unique to Sweden - it happens on many rallies at all levels. Some marshals apply general common sense, others complete inflexibility. Human nature. But it's pretty infuriating when you encounter different stances within a few hundred metres. At least they don't try to fight you like in Spain!

How was it from spectator points viewing over the snowbanks? I've seen some pictures and videos seeing only windows and roofs. Must be important to get there early and find your own spots.

I did mostly spectate on other than spectator zones and on my point of views it was always a good view on the car. Sometimes I packed some snow (I had a shovel) to make it possible to stand a bit higher. In many places the snowbanks were around 60-80 cm, sometimes higher, but I think most of the spectator zones were somewhat above the road level. Sometimes very far too, like in the shakedown. For some people that is just fine, easy access.

[J-Records]

My video from Rally Sweden 2022 jumps, flat out, slides 🙂
https://youtu.be/r5KeSufx81c

[SubaruNorway]

Yeah it was tricky in places with marshals and there was one guy with beard and pink? headphones we saw on several places always screaming, like on the Brattby jump i couldn't really see so much with all the people sticking their heads and phones out right at the last second for Rally1 and some spaniards almost ended up in a fight with the marshals and constantly arguing with two young girls so i moved up by the other photographers for WRC2 in a less safe place, then the beard guy was right behind me filming with his phone saying nothing suddenly. Powerstage i had to give up filming by P2, no energy left, you should see my feet!

[BleAivano]

What a rally to see in real time. Stages very close together, conditions absolutely perfect but not to put a negative spin the marshals need to be on the same page. In some stages when we arrived 2.5hrs before first car we where refused to walk along the stage to our marked spectator point, being told we must stay at this spectator location only. Then on other stages it wasn't an issue. Marshalling is a tough job and I have respect for the people who do this but for next year its something they need to work on.

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I saw a preview video on yt and the safety chief (or something like that) mentioned that they would be very strict regarding people walking on the stage,
IMO until 30 min before start of 0 car on stage it should be ok to walk on the stage away from a spectator area, especially if there are few access roads.

I was unable to travel to Umeå this year but hope to be able to attend next year. Also now that they have signed for two more years perhaps they will be able to tweak the course a bit if needed.
Most importantly Umeå delivered when it came to the white stuff, so nice to see a Rally Sweden held in proper winter conditions.

[dimviii]

Tanak

https://twitter.com/paddocknews/status/1498203787365863425

[hari]

It was a special Rally Sweden 2022, for sure more strict than before on some places. But already looking forward to next year!

My gallery: https://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_wrc_rallye_schweden_2022.html (https://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_wrc_rallye_schweden_2022.html)

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/274717842_7779066848785976_868332680955661227_n.jp g?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=hBdbbAmzsxwAX8PGZtn&_nc_ht=scontent-vie1-1.xx&oh=00_AT_PMt5vZCerhq2P4NlrFDuNS43KrGLHYTMO14FPK1jn Vw&oe=622232D8

[linni]

What a rally to see in real time. Stages very close together, conditions absolutely perfect but not to put a negative spin the marshals need to be on the same page. In some stages when we arrived 2.5hrs before first car we where refused to walk along the stage to our marked spectator point, being told we must stay at this spectator location only. Then on other stages it wasn't an issue. Marshalling is a tough job and I have respect for the people who do this but for next year its something they need to work on.

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SS3 1,5 hours before first car.
First, the "envelope" area at junction was about 300 - 400 meters long. WTF? Second, marshals did not allow tu use it (1,5 hours before) and forced the spectators to ditch. There was about 60 - 70 cm snow there, I literally sank in up to the balls. Got myself back to road, told marshals to fuck off and marched to the spectator area. Majority of law abinding locals followed the ditch though. Poor them.

In conclusion (based on many things) - one of the most terribly organised rallies in my 45 years long spectating history. Not worth going next year.

[tommeke_B]

Back home from a fantastic event. Amazing stages and road conditions. The amount of snow made it quite difficult to move along the stages. And indeed, some marshals didn't make sense at all. Sometimes it was difficult to "escape" the public areas, even while being there far more than half an hour before. A lot of people complained and for good reason, on most spectator areas you could barely see the roof of the cars...

A few photos:
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Link to the album: https://www.facebook.com/media/set?vanity=rallyimage&set=a.7541994869145667

[samzon100]

MM-Rally Sweden 24-27.02.2022
Shakedown
SS1, SS3, SS4, SS8, SS11 ja SS12
Regroup

https://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/MM-Rally+Sweden+02.22/

[Lancia Stratos]

SS3 1,5 hours before first car.
First, the "envelope" area at junction was about 300 - 400 meters long. WTF? Second, marshals did not allow tu use it (1,5 hours before) and forced the spectators to ditch. There was about 60 - 70 cm snow there, I literally sank in up to the balls. Got myself back to road, told marshals to fuck off and marched to the spectator area. Majority of law abinding locals followed the ditch though. Poor them.



If you used that language to volunteer marshals giving up their free time to help the rally then you should be ashamed of yourself.

[SubaruNorway]

If you used that language to volunteer marshals giving up their free time to help the rally then you should be ashamed of yourself.

You should have heard how some of them talked to people, seen and heard a lot but this was on another level

[DocMS]

If you used that language to volunteer marshals giving up their free time to help the rally then you should be ashamed of yourself.Not sticking up for this type of language to volunteers but some of these volunteer's were completely out if line this year. I witnessed a marshal absolutely lose it with an Italian spectator who was walking up the stage 1.5hrs before 1st car. Causing zero harm to anyone. Firstly he was shouting in Swedish which the spectator did not understand and continues walking as was completely unaware, the marshal ran up the stage to the spectator and shouted in English to get the F**k off the road. Asked him if he was f**King Brain dead and if he didn't get behind the tape he was calling off the whole stage. The spectator actually apologised to which the marshal called him a F**King idiot.

I appreciate the work these volunteers do. Without these people these events do not take place, but it's something that needs major attention before 2023.


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[linni]

If you used that language to volunteer marshals giving up their free time to help the rally then you should be ashamed of yourself.

They only got what they deserved.
Never seen such aggressive and stupid marshals before.
If you cannot do your job, stay at home.

Been to Rally Finland for 20 years, zero problems. Top notch marshaling.

[EstWRC]

https://twitter.com/jacko_r_/status/1497318409440268290?s=21

[ouvreur]

https://twitter.com/jacko_r_/status/1497318409440268290?s=21

Whoever that is, needs banning from being anywhere near a rally ever again.

[Hartusvuori]

Whoever that is, needs banning from being anywhere near a rally ever again.

Quite a common situation. Never nice, but quite a common. With a lot of snow, the sound of the approaching car gets buried and you get surprised. Thank god for the short entry lists, so it's OK to spectate all the cars and leave only then.

[ouvreur]

Quite a common situation. Never nice, but quite a common. With a lot of snow, the sound of the approaching car gets buried and you get surprised. Thank god for the short entry lists, so it's OK to spectate all the cars and leave only then.

It's the fact the guy's filmed it and put it on Twitter that really bugs me, like it's something to be proud of, "great banter"... anyone can make a mistake, that's bad enough, but boasting about how you're like a suicidal Group B fan is enough evidence for me that rallying would be better off without him and his mates being interested in it.

[AnttiL]

The car is Veiby’s Polo, likely second WRC2 car so they are walking on the stage quite early on. Difficult to understand.