56. Renties Ypres Rally Belgium 2021

[mknight]

Loubet has different car than the top 3 Hyundais, but he is certainly also nowhere near the drivers.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fourmaux only 5sec off Ogier isnt that bad for a newbie. The Fiesta is still a fairly quick car on tarmac as he showed in Croatia too.

[TypeR]

Rossel fastest R5 so far :O 1.4 faster than Gryazin

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Next stage starting soon already

They're still showing chat rather than the Rally2's ..

[Tauri_J]

They're still showing chat rather than the Rally2's ..

Seriously can we stop this jibberish already?

[EstWRC]

Evans didnt lose much after 3rd onwards

[meh]

With SS1 Tänak pushed Neuville to push I guess

... Rovanperä fastest Toyota on splits, is it just road position or Ogier and Evans just made wrong tyre-choice

[EstWRC]

Ott loosing 1.3 secs with every split

[denkimi]

With SS1 Tänak pushed Neuville to push I guess
Tanak starts later so he can't push neuville.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rossel and Vanneste beat Suninen on SS1 !

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen flying.

[EstWRC]

slow puncture for Ott?

[EstWRC]

nope, missed a junction and couldnt get a rhytm

[240RS]

Breen and Neuville proving experience here DOES matter. . .

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen leads !

[er88]

Quality from Breen. Malcolm get that contract drawn up asap, this is a driver on the up who deserves a full season (or two)!

[mknight]

Quality from Breen. Malcolm get that contract drawn up asap, this is a driver on the up who deserves a full season (or two)!

If we ignore the drawing of conclusions based on two stages.....

Why would Adamo want to let him go if he is doing great? Sordo isn't doing great lately and Solberg shows he is not ready.
Say 10/14 rounds at Hyundai with good salary or full season at MSport with unknown performance. Not easy pick.

Still too early anyway tbh.

[dimviii]

Adamo pushing hard
https://twitter.com/brievesrallye/status/1426129317982085120

[Rallyper]

Thought Loubet would do better...

[Tauri_J]

Idiot spectator there.

[mknight]

Kristensson first WRC2 on first split.... who expected that?

[TypeR]

Huttunen lost 8.9 to Suninen..

[AnttiL]

They're still showing chat rather than the Rally2's ..

Can’t move instantly from one stage to another.

[AnttiL]

Quality from Breen. Malcolm get that contract drawn up asap, this is a driver on the up who deserves a full season (or two)!

Well done Craig!

[Sulland]

There are 5 WRC2 cars in this rally. And the promotor are not even able to show them.
The blabber of Kiri and someone is not worth listening to, when we can have live show, and inteviews!!!

wrc.com need to adjust this, we are not just paying for RC1!

[mknight]

Well RC2 on SS2 looks like Belgian walkover. Seems like a stage where local experience really mattered, both in WRC in RC2.

[EstWRC]

of course it matters on rallies like this, like Ogiers or French drivers experience in Monte

[EstWRC]

It seems Thierry had now really found the rhytm, 2 secs already up in spl1

[mknight]

4 out of top 5 in RC2 are Belgians on SS2.

[EstWRC]

puncture for Seb the last 2kms

[TypeR]

We knew it, we have tyres not strong enough for wrc..

[EstWRC]

Thierry didnt took basically any time between splits 2 and 3

[denkimi]

We knew it, we have tyres not strong enough for wrc..
Tyres are never the problem in ypres. Taking wrong cuts is.

[EstWRC]

Tänak starting to remind Croatia again unfortnunately

[Sulland]

We knew it, we have tyres not strong enough for wrc..

Pretty massive statememt from a multiple world champion!
Is FIA asking Pirelli to make structural changes, not to have a lottery when it comes to safety?

[EstWRC]

damn Becs didnt hear what Ott said there after the stage, something not wroking correctly or what it was

[240RS]

Breen has been highly impressive today. Taking the fight to Thierry, on home ground, is no mean feat. . .

[flat_right]

damn Becs didnt hear what Ott said there after the stage

He wouldn't understood it anyway :D

Said quite angrily that "I don't know what they are doing"

[EstWRC]

He wouldn't understood it anyway :D

Said quite angrily that "I don't know what they are doing"

i mean she talked over Ott but yeah Ott said he doesnt understand what they are doing, dont know what he means with it

[flat_right]

Who is Ott's gravel grew this time?

[Tauri_J]

He wouldn't understood it anyway :D

Said quite angrily that "I don't know what they are doing"

Gravel crew probably.

[TypeR]

Friend from Estonia said that, ,,I don't understand what they are doing, just don't.. second season in a row already..''

[EstWRC]

well if you compare his times to Toyotas, then everything is good

its just that both of his teammates have experience here and one being local guy


i actually expected thiese kind of huge times from Thierry and Craig

[flat_right]

Friend from Estonia said that, ,,I don't understand what they are doing, just don't.. second season in a row already..''

Yes, can confirm.

[mknight]

Breen has been highly impressive today. Taking the fight to Thierry, on home ground, is no mean feat. . .

On this rally it's kind of home ground for both.

Looks like it shows relative to the rest of the field.

[mknight]

..and we have first off

[mknight]

Looks like Gryazin also off.

[meh]

As amount of driver-seats is really limited, with Rally Estonia and this rally so far Breen is making really good statement for next year. Adamo vs Wilson? :)

[meh]

Looks like Gryazin also off.

by maps seems to move again


edit: and not anymore.

[denkimi]

Looks like Gryazin also off.
Jep, in the ditch.

No big suprise.

[flat_right]

Whatever it will be but he deserves a full season.

[rp]

Gryazin just can not stay on the road. After SS 2 was saying that is trying to drive safely.

[EstWRC]

i was thinking Julien said on SS2 that for him it seems Otts brake pedal is going too low to the bottom, maybe Ott was meaning that?

Mads also said he doesnt brake as late as on SS1 which he won

[haris274]

2150

Gryazin

[Rallyper]

Don´t you think this is a boring rally?

[EstWRC]

man that was really unfortunate for Gryazin

[mknight]

They just showed Gryazin off on alllive. Pretty stupid, low speed corner exit right into the ditch. Probably not a scratch on the car.

[er88]

They just showed Gryazin off on alllive. Pretty stupid, low speed corner exit right into the ditch. Probably not a scratch on the car.It's Ypres though. This is just what happens to a lot of drivers.

[mknight]

Well the guy leading RC2 by 10s also ended on SS3.

[denkimi]

Princen puncture?

[TypeR]

SS4 - flat out stage

[meh]

Fourmaux spinning in the air:
https://twitter.com/eWRCresults/status/1426187555729551361/photo/1

[Rallyper]

Princen puncture?

Vanneste out.

[Rallyper]

Fourmaux spinning in the air:
https://twitter.com/eWRCresults/status/1426187555729551361/photo/1

Ouusshhhhh!!!

[WRC1]

first 5 places in RC2 5 different manufactors! nice!!

[haris274]

2151
Gryazin again!

[mknight]

first 5 places in RC2 5 different manufactors! nice!!

Well I am starting to think more and more that RC2 as main and only class would be a good idea for WRC.

Sure it's not as spectacular, but the competition is just so wide and "local" guys can drive "same" car and be competetive. Proven over and over on many rallies.

Yes with really full factory push and lots of testing the manu teams would have some advantage but would still be much wider competition than 3-4 cars as it often is in RC1.

[TheFlyingTuga]

Well I am starting to think more and more that RC2 as main and only class would be a good idea for WRC.

Sure it's not as spectacular, but the competition is just so wide and "local" guys can drive "same" car and be competetive. Proven over and over on many rallies.

Yes with really full factory push and lots of testing the manu teams would have some advantage but would still be much wider competition than 3-4 cars as it often is in RC1.

And with the low budget of running those cars you could see teams running 4 cars each for example. A manufacturer cup and a privateers cup.

We could had 6 different makes with 4 drivers each... It would have been heaven

[MartijnS]

Fourmaux crash: https://fb.watch/7mfBb9Nfix/

[Rallyper]

GG did it also. Gryazin was first.

[meh]

Teemu is still the best M-Sport driver, such a irony

[TypeR]

Wilson must be thinking.. scr*w you young guys.. I'll drive the car myself next season..

[mknight]

Another rally where MSport's presence in WRC is over during Friday (Estonia same), this time due to drivers.

Now these two are supposed to be at least 2/3 of the team next year...

[Rallyper]

I think this was learning curve for Fourmaux. Who knows what happens with his skills after that crash?

Normally he would come out stronger, I hope.

[mknight]

And with the low budget of running those cars you could see teams running 4 cars each for example. A manufacturer cup and a privateers cup.

We could had 6 different makes with 4 drivers each... It would have been heaven

Over time I think the factory teams would likely "outbudget" the local guys anyway. (a bit like Skoda in 2017-2018 testing more than than even WRC teams). There are signs of this in WRC2 also, with testing rallies and lots of tests by some (Østberg, Toksport, Gryazin...). But maybe it wouldn't be so bad.

But you know that from some people it's not so much about the wide competition but about the spectacle, even if it's only from 6 cars...

[mknight]

I think this was learning curve for Fourmaux. Who knows what happens with his skills after that crash?

Normally he would come out stronger, I hope.

Maybe, but he's nowhere close to being a leading driver for a team that has any ambitions. Even if it might be just rally wins.

[Rallyper]

Over time I think the factory teams would likely "outbudget" the local guys anyway. (a bit like Skoda in 2017-2018 testing more than than even WRC teams). There are signs of this in WRC2 also, with testing rallies and lots of tests by some (Østberg, Toksport, Gryazin...). But maybe it wouldn't be so bad.

But you know that from some people it's not so much about the wide competition but about the spectacle, even if it's only from 6 cars...

I think "outbudgeting" can be regulated by rules. No problem in that spectra.

[denkimi]

Over time I think the factory teams would likely "outbudget" the local guys anyway. (a bit like Skoda in 2017-2018 testing more than than even WRC teams). There are signs of this in WRC2 also, with testing rallies and lots of tests by some (Østberg, Toksport, Gryazin...). But maybe it wouldn't be so bad.

But you know that from some people it's not so much about the wide competition but about the spectacle, even if it's only from 6 cars...
But the spectacle mostly comes from the driver and not from the car. Put them all in rc2 cars and they will look spectacular too.

[Rallyper]

Maybe, but he's nowhere close to being a leading driver for a team that has any ambitions. Even if it might be just rally wins.

Of course. MSport needs Mikkelsen or rather Breen...

[Integrale]

Solberg almost lost it at our spot on Zonnebeke a very fast left hander, very lucky. Tanak impressive for his first Ypres. But will he finish? Nice atmosphere on the stages, loving it!

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[AnttiL]

Well I am starting to think more and more that RC2 as main and only class would be a good idea for WRC.

Sure it's not as spectacular, but the competition is just so wide and "local" guys can drive "same" car and be competetive. Proven over and over on many rallies.

Yes with really full factory push and lots of testing the manu teams would have some advantage but would still be much wider competition than 3-4 cars as it often is in RC1.
It looks like that here because we have only five WRC2 entries and even they are not proper factory team entries but drivers paying for their drives. And none of them is driving the best car, Skoda. The two most experienced drivers (Mikkelsen and Östberg) are skipping the event, as are most of the French WRC3 drivers.

You can also check how it was from 2015 to 2019 with Skoda Motorsport putting in proper effort, not much chances for local guys.

[AnttiL]

And with the low budget of running those cars you could see teams running 4 cars each for example. A manufacturer cup and a privateers cup.

We could had 6 different makes with 4 drivers each... It would have been heaven

Yeah but at the moment there's zero factory teams in WRC2. No car manufacturer is paying a driver money to drive in WRC2. VW is completely abandoned by the manufacturer, while only Skoda, Citroen, Hyundai and M-Sport still develop the car and run customer programs. What is the sixth make? Proton? Peugeot? Toyota?

[Sulland]

Of course. MSport needs Mikkelsen or rather Breen...

They need both, and Fourmaux as number 3.

[dimviii]

i read at French forum that Ostberg said about Fourmaux off that was due to pirelli tyres?

[dimviii]

Munster with old hyundai i20 r5 in front of works hyundais and faster overall at stage.

[mousti]

i read at French forum that Ostberg said about Fourmaux off that was due to pirelli tyres?That would be funny

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[the sniper]

Wilson must be thinking.. scr*w you young guys.. I'll drive the car myself next season..

I don't think he'd even pay for his own drive...

[MartinAG]

i read at French forum that Ostberg said about Fourmaux off that was due to pirelli tyres?

Not sure about that. When Ogier said "we have no tyres strong enough for WRC" Mads was diplomatic and yeah... We all remember his Sardinia Pirelli love story:heart:....

[dimviii]

Chris Biewer Rallye-info.com
@405T16
Replying to
@OfficialWRC
,
@ypresrally
and
@AdrienFourmaux
It was a brand new Fiesta WRC. Chassis 13 and it is Friday the 13th

[irish_tiger]

I think it was more like the Speed was ok just the corner came too quickly......or as we say in this country - ' He ran out of Talent '.....

[dimviii]

Neuville
https://twitter.com/belgakinen/status/1426191116509106183


Gryazin getting back to road
https://twitter.com/eWRCresults/status/1426186184028475398

[dimviii]

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2021/photos/renties-ypres-rally-belgium_2021/hfr_dsc_3591.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2021/photos/renties-ypres-rally-belgium_2021/hfr_dsc_3600.jpg

[EstWRC]

what Ott said again?

E: Martin said the motor is totally flat now, whatever it means

[EstWRC]

Everybody was faster than their morning run except Tänak who was 4 secs slower

[denkimi]

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2021/photos/renties-ypres-rally-belgium_2021/hfr_dsc_3591.jpg

dangerous driving there. either you cut completely or you don't cut. this is wat makes your tyres suddenly lose air.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier 16s faster than this morning on the Westouter stage !

[meh]

Ogier 16s faster than this morning on the Westouter stage !

He had puncture in the morning, no?

[jonkka]

He had puncture in the morning, no?

Wasn't that on SS3?

[EstWRC]

Tänak having issues with engine according to him, what Martin mentioned already previous stage

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Wasn't that on SS3?

Yep.

On SS2 he was talking about the road being very dusty.

[meh]

Tänak having issues with engine according to him, what Martin mentioned already previous stage

and was arriving without driver-side window from "back-seat"

[EstWRC]

and was arriving without driver-side window from "back-seat"

his season continues to be absolutely miserable, problems after problems every rally

cant wait to see finally a trouble free rally (i mean tehcnical/mechacnical)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The one positive of the M-Sports' demise is we now get to see more of the WRC2 battle.

[EstWRC]

so the police just took Jaanu Ree's photo gear, dunno the reason

[TypeR]

so the police just took Jaanu Ree's photo gear, dunno the reason
Police seem to have some problems there..

Marcin Rybak(photographer) also had troubles with police and their dog

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Classic Ypres for the M-Sport newbies - small mistakes, big consequences.

[Mirek]

so the police just took Jaanu Ree's photo gear, dunno the reason


Police seem to have some problems there..

Marcin Rybak(photographer) also had troubles with police and their dog

Could be because in Belgium having a media vest doesn't give you extra rights on stages (if I remember right).

[TypeR]

Could be because in Belgium having a media vest doesn't give you extra rights on stages (if I remember right).

Shouldn't matter as its FIA/WRC event.. not looking good tho..

[EstWRC]

Tänak has lost a lot after spl3


E:lacking power because of the engine issue

[Mirek]

Shouldn't matter as its FIA/WRC event.. not looking good tho..

That's not how law works.

[Mirek]

Kristensson stopped, Suninen with a puncture I think.

[EstWRC]

Tanak
⏱ 11:36.0 (+7.2)
▶ Fifth quickest through so far
"We're low on boost, lacking general power."

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Suninen slow.

M-Sport Friday 13th strikes again.

[meh]

And for the last stage there is question, how many Toyotas pass Tänak.

[EstWRC]

And for the last stage there is question, how many Toyotas pass Tänak.

luckily its only 9km

the two longest stages in a row he has started to loose from middle stage onwards

[Mirek]

Huttunen aloso with puncture.

[Rallyper]

Last Ford then...

[EstWRC]

i dont get it why Suninen decided to continue

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Why not stop & change the tyre.

[meh]

Jack(ass)pot for M-Sport...

[Rallyper]

i dont get it why Suninen decided to continue

well, you can always make right decision afterwards... ;)

[rp]

Tyre lottery! Thanks Pirelli!

[Mirek]

Tyre lottery! Thanks Pirelli!

Ypres has been always full of punctures. I don't see anything extraordinary.

[Rallyper]

So Tom´s car has mechanical? "Stopped" they said on All Live...

[Mirek]

SS8 canceled...

[Rallyper]

Stage 8 cancelled... good evening from me.

Se ya tmrw

[EstWRC]

whats the reason?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Safety reasons.

[becher]

been told its due to spectators

[EstWRC]

dunno, it was a pretty boring day to be honest, everything going after script written before it

[Mirek]

Munster also in troubles, +5 minutes on SS7.

[meh]

Cancelled stage is good for Tänak I guess, one stage less to carry problem or to have fatal outcome from it.

[denkimi]

Munster also in troubles, +5 minutes on SS7.
In the ditch

[Eli]

dunno, it was a pretty boring day to be honest, everything going after script written before it

I enjoyed the day and that for once most cars are still in the running which hasn't been the case in the past rallies, of course it would be nice to see Toyota in the fight, but it seems they've found some of the speed they were lacking this morning so hopefully tomorrow they'll be able to fight back. A great shame we're being deprived from SS8, and tbh if we do get to see this rally again in the WRC it will be nice to see proper night stages here, apart from the stage that was supposed to run now. Hopefully all the top crews can keep it clean and on the road tomorrow so at least we'll might get to see some fights.

[TypeR]

finally people can be where they want, not in certain ,,lamb areas''..

right?!

[Eli]

finally people can be where they want, not in certain ,,lamb areas''..

right?!

Still gutted we got that stage taken away from us (& the fans of course).

[mousti]

Could be because in Belgium having a media vest doesn't give you extra rights on stages (if I remember right).True..

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[meh]

"Stage cancelled because of spectators" is not the best label for new rally if it wants to be part of WRC in the future as well.

Just curious, have there been cancelled stage because of spectators in Rally Finland?

[AnttiL]

Just curious, have there been cancelled stage because of spectators in Rally Finland?

Not since the 70’s. And one stage on 1986 was cancelled in advance because it was expected to be bad.

[Mirek]

"Stage cancelled because of spectators" is not the best label for new rally if it wants to be part of WRC in the future as well.

Just curious, have there been cancelled stage because of spectators in Rally Finland?

In Finland 90% of the stage length isn't supereasily accesible (and easily means that every half kilometer there is an asphalt access road and maximum few hundred meters of a field to cross. The stages don't run through densily populated country. Ypres has had huge number of spectators even without WRC but the fact they are all around the stages makes their number looking smaller than it is. It's very difficult to handle when people do play hide and seek in the corn etc. (and they do have years of practise in doing so). I can imagine that the stage being run in the evening and the event being finally something to celebrate in the times of covid lockdowns means that plenty of people around the last stage were also drunk... and also the stage being short gave the organizer a chance to use it as a warning.

[denkimi]

"Stage cancelled because of spectators" is not the best label for new rally if it wants to be part of WRC in the future as well.

Just curious, have there been cancelled stage because of spectators in Rally Finland?
Don't worry, it won't be in the wrc next year.

And its most likely a problem with the police, not with spectators. It almost always is.

[EstWRC]

Rallirinki / Teemu
@HartusvuoriWRC
·
1h
My friend was watching the cars on a liason with a few hundred other people. A marshall came and told they couldn't be there, but would have to buy a ticket for a spectator area. They were ona a liason. It's not a stage. It's getting wilder it seems. #YpresRally

https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/1426255273677701123

[EstWRC]

Tänak to estonian media: "there was something missing from the car when leaving the service. the turbo pressure was little lacking and was a little difficult to drive"

overall he said the second loop was better and more enjoyable and he could understand more how to drive on these roads

[dimviii]

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_08_2021/post-398-0-89598900-1628883906.jpg

[MartijnS]

Some of our highlights of today: https://fb.watch/7mCLELEmqk/

[dimviii]

same corner top crews

https://youtu.be/eOTwqOX6zF0


Kristensson
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_08_2021/post-398-0-66808300-1628887560.jpg

[dimviii]

nice video

https://youtu.be/vYZQPu19N5I

[becher]

finally people can be where they want, not in certain ,,lamb areas''..

right?!
Are you talking about the overly strict marshalls?

[dimviii]

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_08_2021/post-452-0-28397300-1628898651.jpg

[dimviii]

another nice one
https://youtu.be/JXqm5knex4c

[denkimi]

At a fast rally like this the aero and thus speed differences between r5 and wrc really show.

[TypeR]

Are you talking about the overly strict marshalls?

I meant that people cry about spectator areas, where real fans can't watch...
but when they are given more freedom, then people can't behave :D

[dimviii]

Tom Kristensson
@KristenssonTom

No restart ☹ The damages we suffered yesterday were too severe to continue. So frustrating but we have a lot of positives to take with us from this rally! Shit happens, we'll come back stronger

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/hGIgeRqJnMs

[Rallyper]

Morning. A lot to follow today. Swedish and Finnish championship also...

[Rallyper]

First part of stage seems to be very dangerous for the tyres when cutting.

[dimviii]

Good morning guys from Corfu island!



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8u-to8WYAI_eeA?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[TypeR]

All WRC's 6 hards, except Loubet 4H2S and Gus 2H4S

[meh]

Loubet off

[Rallyper]

Loubet off. Maybe he can go on again.

[EstWRC]

it seemed like a pacenote mistake from Loubet

[TypeR]

unfortunate slow-mo off from Loubet.. similar to Gryazins. sharp and deep enough ditches.. hopefully will get out from there

[TypeR]

Tänak fast, but Breen even faster, -0.5 in split 1

[Rallyper]

First victim today. Tanak.

[meh]

Tänak and puncture...

[EstWRC]

What on earth have estonian done this year to rally god

********** ***** *****

[EstWRC]

that was a really long change, they have to practice more

[TypeR]

Very slow change.. Breen behind him already

[haris274]

https://i.imgur.com/cT5QHjF.png

Loubet!!!

[Rallyper]

Tanak pulled over for Breen.

[Francis44]

that was a really long change, they have to practice more

I feel that they dont care anymore, out of the Championship fight already.

[EstWRC]

cmong Breen gettin cocky already

[Rallyper]

I think Breen was wining a bit too much. Shit happens. And he knows it can happen to him as well. It´s rallying.

[EstWRC]

and of course the jack as broken for Tänak also :laugh:

[Rallyper]

Huttunen stopped?

[meh]

Huttunen stopped?

by maps it seems like safe parking place, so I assume changing puncture

edit: seems to move again, probably changed puncture and learned from yesterday that it makes sense to change it, not to carry till the end

[EstWRC]

it wouldnt have been this seasons script if something wouldnt have happened to Hyundais on Saturday :laugh:

Tänak puncture, Huttunen puncture, Loubet off

[TypeR]

Breen acting like he was driving for WDC..
Team's fault I'd say.. should have told earlier

[meh]

Breen acting like he was driving for WDC..
Team's fault I'd say.. should have told earlier

Breen's frustration is understandable because full of adrenaline and fighting for win... but for sure he did not win many new fans with this statement at the stage end.

[MartinH3000]

Breen acting like he was driving for WDC..
Team's fault I'd say.. should have told earlier

He is fighting with a real chance of his first win and interviewed about 30 seconds after the stop line. I think anyone would be frustrated like that.

[Rallyper]

Katsuta big off.

[EstWRC]

wtf did Taka hit people?

[meh]

Katsuta big off.

I hope no one got injured from side of the road, last image was not good - someone was in front of car but did not understand, was the car stopped or stuck already or not

[Portimao]

It looks so

[becher]

He is fighting with a real chance of his first win and interviewed about 30 seconds after the stop line. I think anyone would be frustrated like that.

What did he say?

[meh]

stage red flagged

[Rallyper]

I hope no one got injured from side of the road, last image was not good - someone was in front of car but did not understand, was the car stopped or stuck already or not

Looked bad. Hope car was stopped.

Edit: Red flag...

[TypeR]

red flag I believe..
similar to Fourmaux' crash.. going out to right side and flew to other side of the road.. damn, really hope everything will be okay

[EstWRC]

stage cancelled, that looked horrible to be honest, i saw dudes standing from Takas incar when he was still rolling

[Tauri_J]

This is really bad

[Rallyper]

Pole and power line across the road. seems no injuries.

[Tauri_J]

Ok just a pole, thank god

[meh]

ok, hopefully the reason is just closed road because if cut electric pole and not medical

[EstWRC]

ok it seems no one is hurt actually?

[Integrale]

Katsuta at our spothttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210814/24fdfe455307214977666712a52e8111.jpg

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[EstWRC]

is everybody okay?

[Integrale]

No one hurt

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[MartijnS]

Few years ago also a big crash of Jasper vd Heuvel at the same spot.

Pieter Tsjoen crashed into a house on the first stage. Big damage to the house and car. Don’t know about the crew.

[meh]

Oeh WRC-All live, still this "how disappointed are you" question...

[Rallyper]

also SS9 stopped. Tjoen #31, went into a house.

[TypeR]

also SS9 stopped. Tjoen #31, went into a house.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8vNEmGWQAEl5ea?format=png&name=small

[Integrale]

Polehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210814/d5721def62a5893bc006b3e936f88528.jpg

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[meh]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8vNEmGWQAEl5ea?format=png&name=small

I think some people will not welcome rally near their houses in the future...

[Rallyper]

I think it´s quite messy right now.

[EstWRC]

Breen about Ott https://twitter.com/dirtfishrally/status/1426458321880449031?s=21

[Tauri_J]

Wat they Are restarting?

[EstWRC]

so the stage conitnues it seems

[Rallyper]

Stage restart now. Ogier getting notional time, I´d guess.

[meh]

interesting. How they going to keep the schedule and what time they will give to Ogier.

[EstWRC]

i dont remember the confirmed rallies but was Ypres already confirmed for next year?

[Tauri_J]

i dont remember the confirmed rallies but was Ypres already confirmed for next year?

Nope

[itix]

Any confirmation that everyone is OK where Katsuta went off?
I saw a red safety crew jacket through the camera pointing forward from the car so clearly he was very close to hitting someone while spinning, or he hit someone.

[Mirek]

Any confirmation that everyone is OK where Katsuta went off?
I saw a red safety crew jacket through the camera pointing forward from the car so clearly he was very close to hitting someone while spinning, or he hit someone.

Se post https://www.motorsportforums.com/showthread.php?41502-56-Renties-Ypres-Rally-Belgium-2021&p=1280003&viewfull=1#post1280003

Integrale was there personaly.

[itix]

Se post https://www.motorsportforums.com/showthread.php?41502-56-Renties-Ypres-Rally-Belgium-2021&p=1280003&viewfull=1#post1280003

Integrale was there personaly.Didn't scroll back far enough. Thanks.
Must have been a close call. The safety crew guy is right in front of the camera in one of the frames from the onboard.

[EstWRC]

shame about the puncture for Ott, wanted to see the speed today but maybe after lunch

[Mirek]

Breen pushing like mad as he always did in Ypres. Hopefully he can stay on the road as well.

[meh]

Quite good time from Evans with cold tires

[EstWRC]

i hope they let Breen win, sorry but i cant see Thierry fighting for champhionship either with so few rallies left

the team points would remain the same

[Rallyper]

Will SS11 be delayed? Some kind of regrouping before?

Edit: Starts 11:26

[EstWRC]

11.26 new start time

[Mirek]

Bedoret having a great morning!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Another fast solid stage by Rovanperä - he's now the only youngster in a WRC1 car not to have gone off here.

[TypeR]

i hope they let Breen win, sorry but i cant see Thierry fighting for champhionship either with so few rallies left

the team points would remain the same

seems that Adamo doesn't really care about driver's title.. they didn't bother changing places in Rally Estonia and hopefully they don't do it in Belgium either (if Breen is faster and gets the lead ofc)

[EstWRC]

seems that Adamo doesn't really care about driver's title.. they didn't bother changing places in Rally Estonia and hopefully they don't do it in Belgium either (if Breen is faster and gets the lead ofc)

yeah to be clear i mean when Breen gets past and is faster than Thierry

[AnttiL]

seems that Adamo doesn't really care about driver's title.. they didn't bother changing places in Rally Estonia and hopefully they don't do it in Belgium either (if Breen is faster and gets the lead ofc)

In Estonia it failed because of Thierry’s problems

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Katsuta crash
https://twitter.com/rallyjef2/status/1426471682294878211?s=20

[Rallyper]

Oliver having problems with powersteering on SS10

[Mirek]

I almost feel seasick when watching onboards of Greensmith. He keeps tuggling the steering way too much in my opinion. There is no smoothness in his driving.

[Mirek]

Ogier was given same time as Evans.

[Rally Hokkaido]

I almost feel seasick when watching onboards of Greensmith. He keeps tuggling the steering way too much in my opinion. There is no smoothness in his driving.

We've noticed it before. I think it was Monte, this year. I'm pleased his stage times are generally improved this year (pat on the back to Chris Patterson), but to my eyes his driving style hasn't really changed from last season and it often looks like he is overdriving (= an accident waiting to happen).

[EstWRC]

first non Hyndai stage win!

[meh]

... and Toyota got first stage win

[240RS]

Interesting to note that road positions today don't seem to have had much of an impact on performance. What we are seeing is very consistent with what was yesterday.

[Mirek]

Still powersteering issues for Oliver. Aaron pulling the handbrake for him.

[EstWRC]

misery saturday continues for Hyundai

[AndyRAC]

I almost feel seasick when watching onboards of Greensmith. He keeps tuggling the steering way too much in my opinion. There is no smoothness in his driving.

Could do with some training with Rob Wilson or another similar driver. Become more smooth & consistent with his inputs......(plenty of professionals have used him).

[Mirek]

Bedoret is the new leader of all RC2.

[itix]

We've noticed it before. I think it was Monte, this year. I'm pleased his stage times are generally improved this year (pat on the back to Chris Patterson), but to my eyes his driving style hasn't really changed from last season and it often looks like he is overdriving (= an accident waiting to happen).The man has no natural speed and wouldn't be in that seat if he didn't bring money with him into the team.

[TypeR]

Loubet had front right puncture before going off
https://www.upload.ee/image/13392539/20210814_125913.jpg

[onemanband]

The man has no natural speed and wouldn't be in that seat if he didn't bring money with him into the team.

Agree with you there. I think any half decent rally driver would have made the improvements he has if they had the chance he has.

[meh]

misery saturday continues for Hyundai

Can be better, but to call 1-2 to misery is a bit too much. It may only applies to Tänak.

[Integrale]

Something happened to Evans? Very bad 4G here.

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[EstWRC]

Can be better, but to call 1-2 to misery is a bit too much. It may only applies to Tänak.

power steering for Oliver, Loubet off, Huttunen and Ott with punctures

yeah its not that awful but still Hyundai and Saturdays arent friends

[Mirek]

Something happened to Evans? Very bad 4G here.

No, he's safely in finish.

[meh]

After the stage Tänak was not happy with Järveoja on something, "why I need to ask many times" or something

[Erki]

Sounds like Ott is unhappy with Martin. After the finish he said "do I have to tell you multiple times or what? when I ask..."

[EstWRC]

he also pointed on the notes today in the morning on the stage he had puncture, said someting to Martin and showed on the notes with his hand

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8v0KJVWEAEUZiF?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8vrzmGWYAg-bIK?format=jpg&name=large

[Essaj]

Stage is live but it's just some Neuville highlight on WRC+?

[Rallyper]

stage started and now also live pics...