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Fast Eddie WRC
27th October 2019, 11:22
Latvala sounding relaxed and talking about next year...

USER47
27th October 2019, 11:23
What will I see? That Tanak will secure the championship? Sure, that's possible. Still won't mean your consiracy theory is correct, or even possible in any way.

KKS
27th October 2019, 11:23
understeer for Loeb

Duvel
27th October 2019, 11:23
Aiai Loeb not doing what hyundai hoped?

KKS
27th October 2019, 11:25
Neuville on it -0.4 1st split

cali
27th October 2019, 11:25
What will I see? That Tanak will secure the championship? Sure, that's possible. Still won't mean your consiracy theory is correct, or even possible in any way.Sure

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KKS
27th October 2019, 11:27
+0.5 hoho

Fast Eddie WRC
27th October 2019, 11:28
Good rally by Sordo and faster than Ogier on the PS.

KKS
27th October 2019, 11:28
Oh Tanak faster on 1st split!!!!!!

Fast Eddie WRC
27th October 2019, 11:29
Tanak started faster.

dimviii
27th October 2019, 11:30
Tanak is finishing the job with style.

Very well deserved championship.

Fast Eddie WRC
27th October 2019, 11:31
Neuville cant beat Evans !

KKS
27th October 2019, 11:31
Tanak up 1.9 on Neuville

KKS
27th October 2019, 11:32
2.8 to Sordo need

KKS
27th October 2019, 11:33
0.8 to 2nd place for Tanak

Kradovech
27th October 2019, 11:33
Ott might steal 2nd here!

Fast Eddie WRC
27th October 2019, 11:34
Tanak smashed it in style.

Mirek
27th October 2019, 11:34
Ott pushing like hell

KKS
27th October 2019, 11:34
Tanak 2nd place and power stage win!
AND THE CHAMPION!!!!!!

wia5958
27th October 2019, 11:35
Can't wait for neuville to complain his team mates let him down and hear his excuse for powerstage

m-ast
27th October 2019, 11:36
Amazing end to the rallye, congratulations Ott really well deserved title

KKS
27th October 2019, 11:36
Welldone Ott! Welldone Martin! Welldone Toyota!!!!
Estonia gonna be mad now!

Fast Eddie WRC
27th October 2019, 11:36
Incredible drive to win the Title ! :champion:

BigWorm
27th October 2019, 11:36
There it is!!!

Mirek
27th October 2019, 11:37
After 15 years we have a world champion whose name is not Sebastien :)

Great job by Ott!

Thousandlakes
27th October 2019, 11:37
Congrats Ott and Martin. You really deserved it!

wia5958
27th October 2019, 11:38
Well done Ott what a drive.

Portimao
27th October 2019, 11:41
Tommi's so sad, because of Ott's leaving?

racerx1979
27th October 2019, 11:43
No, because someone stole his phone...

mknight
27th October 2019, 11:43
The podium is kinda empty when they are only those 2 alone.

Fast Eddie WRC
27th October 2019, 11:46
Never in doubt ! ;)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EB25_T-XoAAs7Fl?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

KKS
27th October 2019, 11:47
Tommi's so sad, because of Ott's leaving?
Yep, looks like.

mknight
27th October 2019, 11:49
Sordo pissed on the podium... for the 0.4s

Fast Eddie WRC
27th October 2019, 11:51
https://www.wrc.com/images//News/2019/October2019/17176_Champion-Spain-2019_001_896x504.jpg?

dimviii
27th October 2019, 11:52
so what scenarios about the manufacture championship we have at Australia?
18 points is the difference.

KKS
27th October 2019, 11:52
So now Toyota need 1-2 in Australia and if Hyundai was 4-5 it's enough to make Toyota champ again

KKS
27th October 2019, 11:53
Sordo pissed on the podium... for the 0.4s
Yep, but all in his hands. Need to be faster than feel better on 2nd spot on a poduim.

steve.mandzij
27th October 2019, 11:54
Tommi's so sad, because of Ott's leaving?Ott kissed the Toyota logo and took a pic with it, so maybe he's playing with Tommi's head?

satnav
27th October 2019, 11:54
Excellent way to crown it
Well done Ott and Martin

Fast Eddie WRC
27th October 2019, 11:56
Quick hats off to Elfyn Evans for that PS drive - 2nd behind the new World Champion. Great to see him and the Fiesta still have pace.

KKS
27th October 2019, 12:01
So now Toyota need 1-2 in Australia and if Hyundai was 4-5 it's enough to make Toyota champ again
It's even might be 1,3 for Toyota and than 402pts both. Dead heat rulled-up by 7 vs 4 events win in Toyota favor

Rally Power
27th October 2019, 12:02
What a show! Huge congrats to Tanak and Jarvejola for a totally deserved title; also to Toyota and Makinen and to all Estonians, especially those that have shared theirs hopes and support to Tanak through the years in this forum. Well done!

mknight
27th October 2019, 12:03
It's even might be 1-3 for Toyota and than 402pts both. Dead heat rulled-up by 7 vs 4 events win in Toyota favor

If it's 1-3 for Toyota then Toyota gets 43 points and Hyundai 27 and Hyundai wins. 3rd car simply doesn't count like it's not there.

KKS
27th October 2019, 12:05
If it's 1-3 for Toyota then Toyota gets 43 points and Hyundai 27 and Hyundai wins. 3rd car simply doesn't count like it's not there.
1,3 Toyota . 4,5 Hyundai

1 Toyota
2 Ford/Citroen
3 Toyota
4 Hyundai
5 Hyundai

and its a Toyota win

mknight
27th October 2019, 12:06
Yeah 1,3 is something else than 1-3 ;)

steve.mandzij
27th October 2019, 12:09
Incredible that it took 15 years to break the French grip on the title; if you'd told me in Mexico 2015 that fucking Ott Tanak would be the one to break that streak and become world champion I'd have called you insane.

I love ott so much :D

krissucool
27th October 2019, 12:09
Champion!

Not a single off or a bigger driving mistake all year?

Incredible.

KKS
27th October 2019, 12:09
Yeah 1,3 is something else than 1-3 ;)
in text it sound right ;) If Toyota "one three" )
And if you see quoted post you straight understand that

KKS
27th October 2019, 12:11
If previous champion wife here? :D Citroen will be very glad to meet she :D

mknight
27th October 2019, 12:13
Champion!

Not a single off or a bigger driving mistake all year?

Incredible.

There is only one thing I would hold against him. The cut on Saturday in Corsica. Still extremely good record.

KKS
27th October 2019, 12:22
Loubet drop another place on PS. 5th overall in WRC2 . That makes WRC2 more interesting final in Aus.

Rallyper
27th October 2019, 12:23
BIG congrats to Ott and Martin, World Champions!!!

argomees
27th October 2019, 12:29
National flag dayhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191027/e20749444e11d70b0b44060e1e8c5734.jpg

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dimviii
27th October 2019, 12:32
@Petter_Solberg

Huge congratulations to @OttTanak
and Martin Jarveoja

welcome to the rare "WRC Champions not called Seb" club!




@MikkoWRC
·

.@OttTanak
you ended the era that lasted the past 15 years! I tried, others have tried but you and Martin went all the way and did I it. Congratulations! That is well deserved! 2019 World Rally Champions


@CSainz_oficial
·

Many congratulations to @OttTanak
WRC!! Welcome to the club, really well deserve!! Well done.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EH4x8CiWsAAxbMc.jpg

KKS
27th October 2019, 13:09
EstWRC, are you alive there? :)

Fast Eddie WRC
27th October 2019, 13:15
It may have been good if the battle had gone to Aus. But we had that fun last year and realistically Tanak was only going to need to finish the rally there.

So really it's better to have it decided here in Europe, at a perfect time and place.

Dream season, dream finish.

itix
27th October 2019, 13:23
I fear for the 2020 season now.

Ott and Neuville in the same team and there will be politics and crap, no more three strong drivers in three teams.

And when Ogier leaves it will be even worse. Then we'll be back to VW domination again.

I hope I'm wrong.

mknight
27th October 2019, 13:25
I'm with you on that.

danon
27th October 2019, 13:33
Congratulations to Ott Tanak and Martin Jarveoja!

This photo says it all. Maestro Loeb wins long term. His record of 9 consecutive WRC titles is sealed for yet another 9 years.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EH4x8CiWsAAxbMc.jpg

itix
27th October 2019, 13:37
Congratulations to Ott Tanak and Martin Jarveoja!

This photo says it all. Maestro Loeb wins long term. His record of 9 consecutive WRC titles is sealed for yet another 9 years.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EH4x8CiWsAAxbMc.jpgSeb has 6 and he's quitting next year so it was never in danger anyway!

dimviii
27th October 2019, 13:52
Τanak stopped when saw Malcolm to congratulate him

https://twitter.com/MSportLtd/status/1188454189476831232

dimviii
27th October 2019, 13:53
Andrea Kaiser
@AndreaKaiser
·
1h
Congratulations @OttTanak
and @TGR_WRC

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EH4qjLjX0AAaooN?format=jpg&name=900x900

Fast Eddie WRC
27th October 2019, 14:25
M-Sport:
Congratulations @OttTanak and @MartinJarveoja ! You deserve this so much, and we’re all so proud to have played our part in your amazing success story ! #WRC #MSPORTERS https://t.co/h32yNSlxiv

Fast Eddie WRC
27th October 2019, 14:30
Rich Millener:
Congratulations @OttTanak and Martin, you deserved this Title. The time on the last stage pretty much summed up why. #worldchampion P.S - slow down next year please. 😬 https://t.co/RhiumC41sf

mknight
27th October 2019, 14:49
Τanak stopped when saw Malcolm to congratulate him

https://twitter.com/MSportLtd/status/1188454189476831232

They are actually blocking the road for him..

hari
27th October 2019, 14:53
Some pictures from Sunday:
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2019/catalunya4/1.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2019/catalunya4/3.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2019/catalunya4/6.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2019/catalunya4/2.jpg


Gallery Thursday - Sunday: http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_wrc_rallye_catalunya_2019.html

Japé
27th October 2019, 14:54
Rich Millener:
Congratulations @OttTanak and Martin, you deserved this Title. The time on the last stage pretty much summed up why. #worldchampion P.S - slow down next year please. �� https://t.co/RhiumC41sf

Does this tweet mean that he is not driving for MSport next year ;)

btw It would be nice to know even approximate estimate how many Estonian spectators there where in the rally :D

Oraamat
27th October 2019, 14:58
Karl Kruuda said in "Kuues käik" podcast that some people even drove 36 hours in car to be at the powerstage because there werent any plane tickets available anymore :D

Devillersvideo
27th October 2019, 15:20
Always a great show in WRC with this guys flat out on gravel and tarmac :D

https://youtu.be/XBDgl-PSgfU

dimviii
27th October 2019, 15:23
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_10_2019/post-1812-0-46883900-1572192240.jpg

dimviii
27th October 2019, 15:28
Always a great show in WRC with this guys flat out on gravel and tarmac :D

https://youtu.be/XBDgl-PSgfU

amazing spot at 0,16 min. Nice video mate!

Fast Eddie WRC
27th October 2019, 15:30
Tanak arriving at the Toyota garage...
https://twitter.com/Ryan_Champion/status/1188479316822237184

KKS
27th October 2019, 16:02
Τanak stopped when saw Malcolm to congratulate him

https://twitter.com/MSportLtd/status/1188454189476831232
Malcom bought that ticket... twice
90% of what we see now called "Ott Tanak" - thanks to Malcolm

dimviii
27th October 2019, 16:03
watch the last paragraph..


"Thierry did another amazing race, we have to say thanks, he did a great race, he showed again that he was a great professional and someone to whom I have a lot of confidence. helped Hyundai to become the car she is today, I'm very happy to work with him and Nicolas, "said Adamo at Olivier Gaspard's microphone.

Defeated by Ott Tänak for the drivers title, Adamo makes his Mea Culpa. "It was not as fast in the beginning as the Toyota, we did not give a competitive car to our drivers at the beginning of the season," he admitted.

He then joked about the rumors of a possible arrival of Tänak at Hyundai next year. "If he comes for free tomorrow I make him the 'pasta alla carbonara' At this point, the line-up is not decided yet, I can only say that it's easier to manage pilots who ride very fast . "

https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_adamo-neuville-est-un-grand-professionnel-je-suis-tres-heureux-de-travailler-avec-lui?id=10352287

robertr
27th October 2019, 16:04
14 000 to 16 000 it was said in Estonian media


That doesn't seem right. In the Estonian rally podcast "Kuues Käik", with Karl Kruuda, it was said that there were about 1000 Estonians in Catalunya.

Considering plane connection from Tallinn, it would take weeks to get 16 000 people from here to there.

mknight
27th October 2019, 16:22
Looking through the post-event interviews, they only did Meeke, Tommi, Adamo and Latvala (who didn't say anything interesting).

- Meeke said the ending comment with ".. (Tanak) can win many more title if he is in the right car"
- Tommi said that Tanak changed from last year, not just pushing to win every stage
- Adamo looked pissed (like usual) about loosing 2nd and commented that, not a single word (or question) about Loeb. Dunno why they don't ask, he is very direct in his comments about everyone, if they only ask.

I agree that Budar was close to invisible whole weekend. Might be due to Alllive team not going for him for interviews though. Since 2nd stage and then Lappi retirement , there wasn't much to ask about though.

Waiting for press conference.

scn
27th October 2019, 16:39
Τanak stopped when saw Malcolm to congratulate him

https://twitter.com/MSportLtd/status/1188454189476831232

M-Sport shows how things should be in every sport. Respect.

dimviii
27th October 2019, 16:45
caption this photo

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EH5rYwsX4AEtWA_?format=jpg&name=large

TypeR
27th October 2019, 16:58
She's doesnt speak for Ogier and is probably just really frustrated for her man.


caption this photo

[ig]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EH5rYwsX4AEtWA_?format=jpg&name=large[/img]
,,You are gonna get more of these next year also!''

Ucci
27th October 2019, 17:41
Never in doubt ! ;)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EB25_T-XoAAs7Fl?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
I told that already in summer this year. Ott is simply one step ahead of other drivers. Anyway-congratulations👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏

Rallyper
27th October 2019, 18:14
One should really look to MSport´s important efforts in the Tanak "story". And me personally I´m proud to have seen him in the very beginning of his international career att Pirelli Shoot Out on Ruuhimäki in 2008 or 2009.

Indreq
27th October 2019, 18:39
TGR press release is out. No comment from Akio Toyoda... He has usually congratulated team on goid results. I wonder if this has meaning in light of these rumors...

mknight
27th October 2019, 18:42
Btw. with all this excitement almost nobody talked about Katsuta. While I am generally very negative of him his speed here was actually quite good. Halved the s/km loss compared with Germany (though "easier" roads probably helped with that).

Eraisik
27th October 2019, 18:42
Now in addition to Autosport, this:
https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/tanak-hyundai-2020-toyota-move/4586262/?nrt=193

RS
27th October 2019, 18:48
Now in addition to Autosport, this:
https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/tanak-hyundai-2020-toyota-move/4586262/?nrt=193

Motorsport.com and autosport.com are the same company.

ggg377
27th October 2019, 18:53
Btw. with all this excitement almost nobody talked about Katsuta. While I am generally very negative of him his speed here was actually quite good. Halved the s/km loss compared with Germany (though "easier" roads probably helped with that).

I am excited for him. In some stages he managed to close down on the WRC regulars, which other rookies have done very rarely. If he could gather experience for a few seasons he could probably show some great times.

mknight
27th October 2019, 19:03
5000 euro fine for Neuville for doing donuts before podium:
https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/1188540259967098882

Though just about all drivers did donuts yesterday after the SSS but that is ok since it was in mediazone/service?

mknight
27th October 2019, 19:18
Btw. according to the vid report of his rally Neuville flew to Spain from Monaco piloting his helicopter:
https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/detail_reportage-exclusif-dans-les-coulisses-de-la-victoire-de-thierry-neuville-en-espagne?id=10351640

steve.mandzij
27th October 2019, 19:22
Now in addition to Autosport, this:
https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/tanak-hyundai-2020-toyota-move/4586262/?nrt=193Frankly it seems too wild a rumor for me still. Stranger things have happened but until someone confirms it I won't believe it.

spark13
27th October 2019, 19:27
caption this photo

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EH5rYwsX4AEtWA_?format=jpg&name=large

https://i.ibb.co/yWynnW6/2019-10-27-23-09-46.png

BigWorm
27th October 2019, 19:28
5000 euro fine for Neuville for doing donuts before podium:
https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/1188540259967098882

Though just about all drivers did donuts yesterday after the SSS but that is ok since it was in mediazone/service?

With the reprimand he got in Argentina for the same thing he shouldn't have done this.

Tarmop
27th October 2019, 20:02
It`s money and he has got loads of it...

dimviii
27th October 2019, 20:14
Rubén Pérez
@RubnPerez
Highlight the brutal performance of Nil Solans and Marc Martí in # WRC2 with the VW Polo R5 of @ARVidalRacing
Achieving 10 scracth of 17 possible and in most sections surpassing the people of the # WRC2Pro.

BigWorm
27th October 2019, 20:32
Rubén Pérez
@RubnPerez
Highlight the brutal performance of Nil Solans and Marc Martí in # WRC2 with the VW Polo R5 of @ARVidalRacing
Achieving 10 scracth of 17 possible and in most sections surpassing the people of the # WRC2Pro.

He seems a good driver, shame he is unlucky in rallies. His results in WRC-2 don't really represent his pace.

dimviii
27th October 2019, 20:40
nice asphalt spot at limiter at first minute
https://youtu.be/Xe-_GBq_ceM

dimviii
27th October 2019, 20:51
also some nice fast asphalt spots
https://youtu.be/XO_PbkzRTCs


Gary Boyd
@KiwiWRCfan
·
13m
Hyundai need to score minimum of 16 points in Australia to secure #WRC manufacturers title.
It could be achieved with
* Rally Win
* Rally P2
* Rally P3 & P8 or better
* Rally P4 & P8 or better
* Rally P5 & P7 or better

mknight
27th October 2019, 21:09
also some nice fast asphalt spots
https://youtu.be/XO_PbkzRTCs


Gary Boyd
@KiwiWRCfan
·
13m
Hyundai need to score minimum of 16 points in Australia to secure #WRC manufacturers title.
It could be achieved with
* Rally Win
* Rally P2
* Rally P3 & P8 or better
* Rally P4 & P8 or better
* Rally P5 & P7 or better

That looks wrong.

They need to score minimum 26 points if Toyota take 1-2 (43 points to Toyota, Hyundai is now 18 ahead = 43-18 =25)

dimviii
27th October 2019, 21:16
togather with Neuville from Monaco to Catalunya
https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/detail_dans-l-intimite-de-thierry-neuville-sur-les-routes-du-wrc?id=10351640

KiwiWRCfan
27th October 2019, 21:16
That looks wrong.

They need to score minimum 26 points if Toyota take 1-2 (43 points to Toyota, Hyundai is now 18 ahead = 43-18 =25)

you are correct McKnight

mknight
27th October 2019, 21:24
togather with Neuville from Monaco to Catalunya
https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/detail_dans-l-intimite-de-thierry-neuville-sur-les-routes-du-wrc?id=10351640
Posted on previous page..

KiwiWRCfan
27th October 2019, 21:47
That looks wrong.

They need to score minimum 26 points if Toyota take 1-2 (43 points to Toyota, Hyundai is now 18 ahead = 43-18 =25)

CORRECTION
Hyundai need Minimum of 27 points in Australia to secure #WRC manufacturers title.
It could be achieved with
* Rally P1 & P8 or better
* Rally P2 & P5 or better
# Lower points work if Toyota do not get a P1-P2 finish

But if Toyota finish P1 & P2 and Hyundai finish P3 & P4 the teams will be tied on points.

Can we have joint manufacturers champions ?
What are tie break rules ?

dimviii
27th October 2019, 21:49
Can we have joint manufacturers champions ?
What are tie break rules ?
most wins,and Toyota has more.

KKS
27th October 2019, 22:22
That doesn't seem right. In the Estonian rally podcast "Kuues Käik", with Karl Kruuda, it was said that there were about 1000 Estonians in Catalunya.

Considering plane connection from Tallinn, it would take weeks to get 16 000 people from here to there.
via any hub-airport it could be easily done

m-ast
27th October 2019, 22:23
20000€ fine to Citroen Racing following stewards decisions 4 and 5, the R5 using a different intercooler than the homologated, and also using a modified radiator:
http://www.rallyracc.com/2019/online/tablon/documentos/STW_Decision_N4.pdf
http://www.rallyracc.com/2019/online/tablon/documentos/STW_Decision_N5.pdf

KKS
27th October 2019, 22:26
Btw. with all this excitement almost nobody talked about Katsuta. While I am generally very negative of him his speed here was actually quite good. Halved the s/km loss compared with Germany (though "easier" roads probably helped with that).
Katsuta and Suninen two people that I didn't excpect so much here. But very good pace for both. Yep in absolute speed now Katsuta far back, but it's only 2nd his rally on tarmac and at WRC and show great speed.
And now just compare to Tidemand... Katsuta simply on another level

KKS
27th October 2019, 22:41
He seems a good driver, shame he is unlucky in rallies. His results in WRC-2 don't really represent his pace.
https://youtu.be/Xe-_GBq_ceM?t=267 Crazy run for Solans

KKS
27th October 2019, 22:47
CORRECTION
Hyundai need Minimum of 27 points in Australia to secure #WRC manufacturers title.
It could be achieved with
* Rally P1 & P8 or better
* Rally P2 & P5 or better
# Lower points work if Toyota do not get a P1-P2 finish

But if Toyota finish P1 & P2 and Hyundai finish P3 & P4 the teams will be tied on points.

Can we have joint manufacturers champions ?
What are tie break rules ?
If Toyota P1 and P2 its 25+18=43pts
if Hyundai P3 and P4 its 15+12=27pts
Toyota: 362+43=405
Hyundai: 380+27=407 and Hyundai wins.

They can be equal on points if Toyota P1 and P3 and Hyundai P4 and P5 or
Toyota P1, P2. Hyunadi P3, P5 than it will be 405pts. But Toyota win it by bigger amount of 1st places

KKS
27th October 2019, 22:49
20000€ fine to Citroen Racing following stewards decisions 4 and 5, the R5 using a different intercooler than the homologated, and also using a modified radiator:
http://www.rallyracc.com/2019/online/tablon/documentos/STW_Decision_N4.pdf
http://www.rallyracc.com/2019/online/tablon/documentos/STW_Decision_N5.pdf
First Hyundai R5 department "forgot" to homologate new parts now it's Citorens move )

Mirek
27th October 2019, 23:23
20000€ fine to Citroen Racing following stewards decisions 4 and 5, the R5 using a different intercooler than the homologated, and also using a modified radiator:
http://www.rallyracc.com/2019/online/tablon/documentos/STW_Decision_N4.pdf
http://www.rallyracc.com/2019/online/tablon/documentos/STW_Decision_N5.pdf

These fines for whatever infringment the works teams do are ridiculous. It's nothing else than collecting money. In the past both cars would be excluded.

denkimi
28th October 2019, 04:43
Frankly it seems too wild a rumor for me still. Stranger things have happened but until someone confirms it I won't believe it.
I also have problems believing it. It just seems like such a stupid thing to do for tanak. Leaving the fastest car and a undisputed number one status in the team, for a shared number one status and a car that only neuville seems to get working.

Tarmop
28th October 2019, 05:22
He isn't nr one...

denkimi
28th October 2019, 06:38
He isn't nr one...
Please tell me what makes you think that? Just because it isn't written on paper doesn't mean it's not true.

pantealex
28th October 2019, 07:22
He isn't nr one...

True.

But he is closer to be Nr1 status in TGR than in Hyundai...

Aquagen
28th October 2019, 08:32
These fines for whatever infringment the works teams do are ridiculous. It's nothing else than collecting money. In the past both cars would be excluded.

It's not a driver mistake. It's just a team process issue so my point of view is that fine is a more fair in this situation.

svstock
28th October 2019, 10:30
Video playlist 55. RallyRACC Catalunya - Costa Daurada 2019
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLl1C5kX7dVEmvnQYLdFdAPeUQwDDspBrF

Rallyper
28th October 2019, 10:42
Katsuta and Suninen two people that I didn't excpect so much here. But very good pace for both. Yep in absolute speed now Katsuta far back, but it's only 2nd his rally on tarmac and at WRC and show great speed.
And now just compare to Tidemand... Katsuta simply on another level

Another level?
How can you compare to Tidemand? Only one tarmac rally... :)

Show me mathematics on speedwise comparison as well... ;)

Katvala
28th October 2019, 10:50
To be completely fair, I didn't notice Katsuta much in this rally

Anyways, just finished watching the rally last midnight, and oh it was eventful. Hats off to Tänak, gutted for Ogier not being able to carry on the fight. Happy to see Sordo on good pace Friday and Sunday, but that last minute push by Tänak on the final stage was quite the spectacle

Finally someone else than Sébastien has won since Petter in 2003, that's great.

Then, the speculation of Tänak to Hyundai. I don't want to draw any conclusions, I just know it will be an interesting future and this silly season has been something else. I do however worry if this would be the beginning of a new "Volkswagen era" where the Hyundai will dominate (if Tänak joins with Neuville still in), especially following Ogier's departure. If he even is interested in staying so long, that is.

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Fredouye
28th October 2019, 17:32
My pictures from the 2019 RACC : https://flic.kr/s/aHsmHZXrtZhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191028/fd749729b5eff05083c458b50c7c15f5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191028/bfd8656f4fffb31cd9878a12a873340b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191028/8a615525ace3f83bfa27df64433516a0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191028/83f6d8eeaf33de20a56a00570b62a93e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191028/34bba8088dccd8b7a1749f28655f2750.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191028/e7f8339a29a5d4317d96a0d7f446ca69.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191028/7b997c6894745f61933e6173cb8c4c97.jpg

eib1
28th October 2019, 18:50
Gryazin crash at 00:30

https://www.facebook.com/margo.villemson/videos/2585681264829831/

EstWRC
28th October 2019, 19:00
EstWRC, are you alive there? :)

Yeah im alive, i finally stopped crying now....naaahhhh, just kidding :)

I drove from South-Estonia to Tallinn right after Power Stage and was so tired later on, because honestly, i just couldnt sleep well at all those 3 days.

But to be honest, im still speechless and i think it will take like a week until it really hits me. Still feels like a dream or smth like that. I started watching WRC in the beginning of 2000 or around that, basically just in time when Loeb started to dominate and always had a dream that one day comes a driver from Estonia and becomes a champion, now it has happened :)

I always knew he had this talent and he can make it. Im sure the older members here definitely remember how i was always protecting him here no matter what, even going over limit at times (even now) but it was because i always believed in him.

and man he took it with style, what a power stage that was, definitely one of his best stages ever, and the most nervous 10 minutes for me :)

so big thanks Ott and Martin, you made history with stopping the French domination and you fullfilled a fans dream.

And last but not least, big thanks for you guys here, for the support and calming me down here time to time, thanks a lot.

i love this picture, they have been through everything and beaten all the obstacles on their road.

https://scontent.fhen1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/75412278_2501911143222106_6273258893581746176_o.jp g?_nc_cat=107&_nc_oc=AQnG8iUL6OmE8Pw9wuhTLHULwd3VpjaGnzco2LIPeia 6RRZBppAXejBh8gJUmMPCofo&_nc_ht=scontent.fhen1-1.fna&oh=4e2ae289ac1cca3795404166b15b4ba0&oe=5E613869

Mk2 RS2000
28th October 2019, 23:20
CORRECTION
Hyundai need Minimum of 27 points in Australia to secure #WRC manufacturers title.
It could be achieved with
* Rally P1 & P8 or better
* Rally P2 & P5 or better
# Lower points work if Toyota do not get a P1-P2 finish

But if Toyota finish P1 & P2 and Hyundai finish P3 & P4 the teams will be tied on points.

Can we have joint manufacturers champions ?
What are tie break rules ?

So how does it all work out if a MSport car takes out some steps of the podium, in particular the top one for they could be a player in the game in Australia

dimviii
29th October 2019, 14:04
https://youtu.be/OMm_zKE7zgw

https://youtu.be/gcldo4SBiMU

Myrvold
29th October 2019, 14:39
Gryazin crash at 00:30

https://www.facebook.com/margo.villemson/videos/2585681264829831/

What's the plan there if a car has a proper failure of brakes or something?

T16
29th October 2019, 15:17
What's the plan there if a car has a proper failure of brakes or something?

Shocking! Especially given how bad that surface was.
Genuinely stunned watching that.
Where was Mouton and her stage safety?

MartijnS
29th October 2019, 15:26
Has been the same for the last 6/7? years or so, but I agree.

EstWRC
29th October 2019, 16:56
like always a good read https://www.wrcwings.tech/2019/10/29/rally-catalunya-2019-stage-results-and-aero-review/

meh
30th October 2019, 09:16
How many times YOU have re-watched powerstage and Tänak's finish? Asking for a friend ;)

EstWRC
30th October 2019, 10:02
"raises a hand, doesnt know the count anymore"

Fredouye
30th October 2019, 12:24
Another one from shakedown
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191030/55e6dbe80edf0d3546655bd76d905909.jpg

pantealex
30th October 2019, 16:28
How many times YOU have re-watched powerstage and Tänak's finish? Asking for a friend ;)

0 (that´s my total, so I admit that I haven´t seen it ever)

dimviii
30th October 2019, 17:46
Here I am back from a long Spanish journey between Granada and Salou, and I am sure you are looking forward to my opinion on this rally! I will not fail to return to it in this column.



It had been a while since I had taken the time to write. I chained the rallies to prepare for the end of the season, with the Vosges Grand Est, the Rally di Alba in Italy, the Rally Ciudad de Granada but also the "pleasure" operations like the Haut-Var, the Vesoul Mecanic Show or even our participation in GT4 with Sébastien Loeb Racing at Le Castellet. No time to get bored !



Let's go back to what interests you: Catalonia! After a good warm-up on the ground in Granada the week before, we arrived in full form in Salou with Daniel. The weather, or rather the apocalypse, has calmed us a bit during the reconnaissance. The good news was that the race would be under the sun, the worst was that the advantage of starting tenth on the road the first day would be partly wiped out by these heavy rains ...



However, at the price of a big attack during the second loop in particular, we head for the first night! A big surprise for Daniel and me who put us in the best conditions before attacking the asphalt. A surprise because, before the rally, I did not think I could have this pace on earth against our rivals. But very quickly, I felt really comfortable with the car and I was able to let go like at the big time by doing a special anthology Friday night. I gave everything from the first to the last meter! It had been a long time since we had not held such a pace on 38 kilometers!







Without necessarily thinking of the victory, on the road leading us to Salou in the evening, we told ourselves that there was something to do this weekend. Last year, we were out of the day "earth" in poorer posture and we had won. We were optimistic and over-motivated to sign at least one podium. At least …



The result was much more complicated than expected ... We never managed to sign any good time on the asphalt. As much in the first round on Saturday, I knew where I could win, I was not more crazy than that. Even if we had taken a little too much for my taste. But we were still second at midday. So we start on the second lap with the big attack. I felt good in the car and really, I drove very hard. At least as strong as last year. No ... stronger than last year! And at every stop point, the verdict is brutal! A stop point that would quickly become my worst enemy of the weekend ... In special, I took a lot of fun, attacking the limit and being satisfied with my driving. But the more the rally advanced, the more I dreaded to see our time on the board. And all without having any explanation ...



Am I a land pilot? Perhaps ! But I do not think I have lost all my abilities on the tarmac. And the lack of pure performance, especially in the 'sinuous', was screaming. Very quickly with the team, we understood that something was wrong ... but we did not manage to put our finger on it before the end of the rally.



When I think about it, we should have gone home Friday night and spent the weekend quietly with family! More seriously, I know that the team will analyze everything to try to understand and I, for my part, I will watch all the cameras on board when they will come out on WRC + to compare ... There are clearly specials where I do not even know where to win the smallest second.





Despite all this, we still finish fourth. This is not the result we expected after the first day but it is so. We played our role of teammate for Hyundai Motorsport while being ambushed just in case. There was no need, Thierry & Nicolas and Dani & Carlos had a great race. This is a great result for the Hyundai Motorsport World Constructors Championship. We're going to cross our fingers so that 'guys' finish work in Australia! I also wanted to welcome Ott and Martin to the closed circle of 'World Champions'! That they profit, the first title is special. I still remember the last kilometers on the Tour de Corse in 2004 ...



On our side, the season is over in WRC. And if everything was not perfect, with good and bad, which is probably explained by the lack of driving and knowledge of the terrain compared to our opponents, we are really happy with Danos to have made the meet this team. We feel really good at Hyundai and that's the big plus point of the year. I understand that many pilots want to come here (laughs)!



1336/5000
With a partial program and a rally every two months or more, we can not hope to win all the rallies. I take the risk of being criticized and I assume it. I think I have nothing to prove in rally and our only two goals in taking part in this part-time program are to bring our experience and our help to Hyundai to win the title 'constructors' but also to take a maximum fun to drive these WRCs. I am aware of how lucky I am to be able to ride the i20 WRC Cup and enjoy every second at the wheel.



As announced recently, we will be able to close this season at the Var Rally with the team which, I hope, will come back from Australia with the title in their pocket! After the Vosges Grand Est and Haut-Var, this is a third opportunity to drive in France in front of our supporters and it's great. My winter will also be animated with two races in the Andros Trophy in Sébastien Loeb Racing! And then, the time to discuss our six rallies in 2020 with Hyundai Motorsport will arrive quickly ... very quickly!



Good week to all and go to Sainte-Maxime at the end of the month,

Seb. "

https://www.sebastienloeb.com/rallye-despagne-2019-rallye-mixte-sentiments-partages/

gorganl2000
30th October 2019, 18:15
Dimvii, i just finished reading that on his website and was bout to post the link, but you beat me to it...lol
anyways, its quite interesting he felt he was doing good times and was yet 10+ secs off the pace in some cases...i wonder if this is why they were looking at a gearbox change at some point...but anyways, as Loeb mentioned in the article, i don't think he has forgotten how to drive on tarmac/asphalt and its clear he's still very competitive on his less favored surface (gravel), but as to why he's so off the pace on tarmac is still to be seen. He's had a few outside (nonWRC) rallies now on tarmac to try to learn the car, yet the pace isn't quite there.

There must be something(s) that can be found in the Hyundai car data and on-board comparisons between these 3 drivers which could give him some pointers as they all drove the same asphalt stages all weekend. I really hope he finds the missing pieces and is able to properly challenge on tarmac again, just as he has been able to on gravel this year

EstWRC
30th October 2019, 20:04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2jq1yxIAYU

Devillersvideo
30th October 2019, 21:15
amazing spot at 0,16 min. Nice video mate!

Thanks ;)
I hope to see again a lot in 2020 ^^

Atob WRC
31st October 2019, 15:01
Hello all!

Here our video from the Rally!

Enjoy!!!

https://youtu.be/cUSeernSgCE

cali
4th November 2019, 15:54
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EstWRC
5th November 2019, 10:30
Tänaks onboard of power stage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZDBb14RanE

bomber21
5th November 2019, 16:47
A short clip I took during Rally Catalunya 2019:

Ogier, Latvala and Suninen in Riudecanyes roundabout
https://youtu.be/8e7J1NNK6E8

AL14
5th November 2019, 17:41
Some short clips I took during Rally Catalunya 2019:

Tanak returns to service park as a World Rally Champion
https://youtu.be/gp9wXsST3yk

Ogier in Riudecanyes roundabout
https://youtu.be/JQxCHtaaaR4

Latvala in Riudecanyes roundabout
https://youtu.be/oqKDmBrDbEM

Suninen in Riudecanyes roundabout
https://youtu.be/9oSFe8JHsCI

Kajito almost caught Guerra in SS3
https://youtu.be/g0wbStTvm3k

I miss NOT in these moments :)

EstWRC
5th November 2019, 19:28
I miss NOT in these moments :)

i really missed him when there was this drama about Ogiers wife posting on twitter :D

stefanvv
10th November 2019, 23:04
I miss NOT in these moments :)

Everyone is free to post, isn't he?

Rallyper
11th November 2019, 09:43
Everyone is free to post, isn't he?

Not sure how it works, but NOT is banned, maybe making not even able to write.