[WRC] Rally Italia Sardegna 13th-16th June 2019

[Tarmop]

He couldn`t physically steer the car in this speed/conditions anymore.

[steve.mandzij]

made some more statistics, which is kind of opposite of my earlier thoughts

stage wins without our top 3 drivers:
Meeke - 35
Latvala - 22
Evans - 17
Sordo - 14
Mikkelsen - 14
Loeb - 13
Suninen - 12
Lappi - 11

Toyota - 57
Hyundai - 41
Ford - 29
Citroen - 11Latvala Is the last person I expected to be at the top of this list :D it shows he's starting to find true speed again, but that he's just run out of luck.

[KKS]

made some more statistics, which is kind of opposite of my earlier thoughts

stage wins without our top 3 drivers:
Meeke - 35
Latvala - 22
Evans - 17
Sordo - 14
Mikkelsen - 14
Loeb - 13
Suninen - 12
Lappi - 11

Toyota - 57
Hyundai - 41
Ford - 29
Citroen - 11
this one is true.
Prevision depend more on consistency of a driver and reliability of a car

[steve.mandzij]

Even if Ott not have problems being 29s after Ott in second to last stage is impressive as hell because we know Ott is on a roll, he's hot now so 29s back after 3 1/2 hours is realy good..especially when we consider how ancient he is..He's 36 years old and according to all the ex-spurts he should be in wheelchair and with a seeing eye dog leading him..
I guess he is deaf to criticism...well that is his name anyway..Sordo put in a mega drive this weekend, for sure. To be fair, I tend to rate Sordo rather lowly, and I frequently look at him as an eternal has been with no further potential, but every single time he's in that i20 he surprises me.

In the past two years he's really been competitive on every outing in the i20, particularly this year. Every time I don't believe in him he goes out and keeps within touching distance of, or even makes it to, the podium.

As "gifted" as this win was, I've gained a lot of respect for him after today. I hope he stays for a few more years, he's still got some nice potential (and is such a likeable guy too!)

[KKS]

just watched Tanak onboard - problems starts from 0:38.5. After a right corner overcrest, and 'problem' corner was first proper corner which require heavy turning. Why that broke on 38.5 - i HAVE NO IDEA! Very strange

[KKS]

Sordo cup... That broken piece should belong to Tanak

https://scontent.fiev22-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/64247120_2258698900876666_2132530053639045120_n.jp g?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ht=scontent.fiev22-2.fna&oh=a79d685129eb6b65b78fce6793661f58&oe=5D7A6144

[Katvala]

Latvala Is the last person I expected to be at the top of this list :D it shows he's starting to find true speed again, but that he's just run out of luck.Speed isn't a problem, the speed is there. It's the consistency that's lacking, and troubles and crashes that's too much
A lot of those fast stages comes from him on rally2

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[Eli]

Agree, sadly we have 4 teams but 3 top drivers.

Made some calculations just for fun, excluded our top 3 drivers from every rally so far this year and the results are:

Rally wins:
Hyundai - 4
Ford - 3
Citroen - 1
Toyota - 0

Podium places in total:
Ford - 9
Hyundai - 7
Toyota - 5
Skoda - 2
Citroen - 1

And some say that Toyota is dominant and fastest car by far...

I'm sorry, but when did Lappi win with Citroen this year, or are you including the WRC 2/Pro Category?

[KKS]

Birthday cake for Neuville ))
http://i.piccy.info/i9/3caac94e3034ce159ccbb5539db3aab1/1560717476/241982/1314850/birthday_cake.jpg

[Katvala]

I'm sorry, but when did Lappi win with Citroen this year, or are you including the WRC 2/Pro Category?It's a list of results with the top three drivers excluded.
For example the second place of Lappi in Sweden. In this list that would be win for Lappi, when top three is excluded

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[EstWRC]

https://www.instagram.com/p/Byx_bDMIThs/?igshid=nbxpozg98xr6
https://www.instagram.com/p/Byx2JPWoHbp/?igshid=1ujshjqeqf3bf

[denkimi]

I don't wanna be in Latvala & Meeke's place reading this.
nobody wants to.
they are lucky that no other better drivers are available, because i think both their seat could be in serious danger.

i wonder what the toyota bosses think of makinen's choise of drivers.


Watching the times of last Tour de Corse, I don't think I'm underestimating it's pace. 2017 is a while ago, the cars have evolved a lot since then. But remember, last year, Ogier won 4 events (and was 2 times extremely close to the win), Tänak won 4, Neuville won 3 (of which one less than a second in front of Ogier). Saying Ogier didn't win by speed is complete nonsense. ;)

If the Toyota had the speed without pushing hard, as you claim, why is Tänak the only one who ended up on the podium with it this year? Meeke and Latvala don't have a reputation of being slow drivers.

Let's talk about the speed of the Fiesta again, after Finland and Germany. ;)
meeke and latvala both have the same problem. they can't go fast without crashing into things. they can go 100%, win sometimes but crash mostly. or they can go 90% and be far of the pace. neither of them have the ability to drive at 95% and be fast without crashing like ogier.

perhaps that fiesta really is as fast as you claim. it could be, but i doubt it.

eib1 has posted the number of stage wins here, i've included the top 3 which makes the dominant speed of the toyota even more clear. all 3 of toyota drivers are at the top. even latvala and meeke outscore neuville and ogier.


Tanak - 45
Meeke - 35
Latvala - 22
Neuville - 22
Ogier - 19
Evans - 17
Sordo - 14
Mikkelsen - 14
Loeb - 13
Suninen - 12
Lappi - 11

Toyota - 102
Hyundai - 63
Ford - 29
Citroen - 30



denkimi is just humiliating once again...
you know, its possible just not to reply if you have nothing intelligent to say.

[EstWRC]

You add the top3 with their stage wins and keep the same amount of stage wins for others ?

[wrc2017]

nobody wants to.
they are lucky that no other better drivers are available, because i think both their seat could be in serious danger.

i wonder what the toyota bosses think of makinen's choise of drivers.


meeke and latvala both have the same problem. they can't go fast without crashing into things. they can go 100%, win sometimes but crash mostly. or they can go 90% and be far of the pace. neither of them have the ability to drive at 95% and be fast without crashing like ogier.

perhaps that fiesta really is as fast as you claim. it could be, but i doubt it.

eib1 has posted the number of stage wins here, i've included the top 3 which makes the dominant speed of the toyota even more clear. all 3 of toyota drivers are at the top. even latvala and meeke outscore neuville and ogier.



you know, its possible just not to reply if you have nothing intelligent to say.

Ogeir 'crashed' 3 times this rally... more that Meeke all season. No?

[Mirek]

eib1 has posted the number of stage wins here, i've included the top 3 which makes the dominant speed of the toyota even more clear. all 3 of toyota drivers are at the top. even latvala and meeke outscore neuville and ogier.

You have 86 more stages than what was actually run in the season, in other words what You made is BS... :o :rolleyes:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport
‏Verified account @MSportLtd

A message to @OttTanak and @MartinJarveoja - keep your heads held high! Your pace was simply sensational this weekend #WRC #MSPORTERS #SportCanBeCruel

This.

[Tarmop]

nobody wants to.
they are lucky that no other better drivers are available, because i think both their seat could be in serious danger.

i wonder what the toyota bosses think of makinen's choise of drivers.


meeke and latvala both have the same problem. they can't go fast without crashing into things. they can go 100%, win sometimes but crash mostly. or they can go 90% and be far of the pace. neither of them have the ability to drive at 95% and be fast without crashing like ogier.

perhaps that fiesta really is as fast as you claim. it could be, but i doubt it.

eib1 has posted the number of stage wins here, i've included the top 3 which makes the dominant speed of the toyota even more clear. all 3 of toyota drivers are at the top. even latvala and meeke outscore neuville and ogier.



you know, its possible just not to reply if you have nothing intelligent to say.

There is nothing to reply to this jibberish...Ford being what it was in 2017 (though they have improved their aero, changed suspension and done work to the engine) and Toyota drives itself (again though, with only one driver).

[Tauri_J]

Here are real stats of SS winners.

https://i.postimg.cc/W3Jf827p/sss.png

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak:
Thank you @MSportLtd for this message ! We still have 6 more rallies to go and we will fight for these 6 victories really hard ! 😎💪

[EstWRC]

https://youtu.be/_sco58M7Fs4?t=28

[logwrc]

Watched Tänak's onboard from powerstage and its quite interesting what they talked right after the spin. Tänak asked Martin to contact team to get help with the powersteering issue. Then Martin pressed some buttons ( I guess to make the call) and then they both explained to someone that it is the same powersteering issue that Jari had.
Are they allowed to talk with the team while driving in the stage?


One likeable thing I heard from onboard was that Martin offered help to pull handbrake and afterwards in hairpins Ott said just word yes and Martin pulled handbrake. Its just small little thing, but for me it shows that codriver needs to be ready to multitask when necessary.



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[EstWRC]

it seems it was just a great spanish motorsport week

Marquez won in motogp
Alex Marquez in moto2
Alonso in Le Mans
Sordo in WRC
Solans in JWRC

[dimviii]

https://nsa40.casimages.com/img/2019/06/16/19061608024621798.jpg

[Katvala]

Wow, that's enough to lose the license here

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[dimviii]

Sordo for clip of the weekend
https://www.instagram.com/p/ByvrrX3DB0g/?igshid=u21v3ady1hhz&fbclid=IwAR3smFWx0znau5KdRvLJ03bHwANZ6J_s26UA_WjJq 28rz-4JtgLAixXXSHY

[dimviii]

redbull daily coverage links
https://twitter.com/rallyparadise/status/1140610191005642753

[dimviii]

ouch!!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9NhujVWkAE6h5q.jpg

[dimviii]

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2019/photos/rally_italia_sardegna_2019/hfr_dsc_7827.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2019/photos/rally_italia_sardegna_2019/hfr_dsc_8125.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2019/photos/rally_italia_sardegna_2019/hfr_dsc_8093.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2019/photos/rally_italia_sardegna_2019/hfr_dsc_7835.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2019/photos/rally_italia_sardegna_2019/lju_c35d3632.jpg

[Rallyper]

Latvala Is the last person I expected to be at the top of this list :D it shows he's starting to find true speed again, but that he's just run out of luck.

Aren´t you following WRC? Only conclusion I can come up to, after you´re claiming you wouldn´t expect JML to be on that list. He´s been fast all the time.

[dimviii]

https://medium.com/@rallyinguk/its-never-clever-to-make-a-mistake-ogier-reflects-on-rally-italia-sardegna-e194e2ea6e3a

[steve.mandzij]

Aren´t you following WRC? Only conclusion I can come up to, after you´re claiming you wouldn´t expect JML to be on that list. He´s been fast all the time.Of course I am. But his points and his terrible luck (added to the fact that he was actually really slow in the first part of the year, not winning stages until the third or fourth round) make his speed not seem as good.

[steve.mandzij]

https://nsa40.casimages.com/img/2019/06/16/19061608024621798.jpgWasn't he caught speeding in the previous rally too?

[Atob WRC]

Here our video from Rally Italia Sardegna!!!

Enjoy!!

https://youtu.be/saR_NVrRvIA

[dimviii]

https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/1140985495813599232

[dimviii]

watch Sordo pass at the start ofthis small clip
https://twitter.com/_D10M_/status/1140705559974428673

[Norm75]

it seems it was just a great spanish motorsport week

Marquez won in motogp
Alex Marquez in moto2
Alonso in Le Mans
Sordo in WRC
Solans in JWRC

You are correct, but doing Marcos Ramirez a disservice.
Another Spanish winner (his 1st I believe) in moto3.

[AL14]

it seems it was just a great spanish motorsport week

Marquez won in motogp
Alex Marquez in moto2
Alonso in Le Mans
Sordo in WRC
Solans in JWRC

Gasol won NBA with Toronto Raptors.

EDIT: oh that was only about motorsport. Nevermind.

[EstWRC]

https://youtu.be/5U1NOu6l_Co

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/5U1NOu6l_Co
@ 4,12 is the jump that collapsed Veibys rear suspension.Unbelieavable that this jump managed to destroy it.

[tommeke_B]

@ 4,12 is the jump that collapsed Veibys rear suspension.Unbelieavable that this jump managed to destroy it.

Maybe it already took some heavy beating on shakedown and nobody noticed?

[mas-racing]

https://i.postimg.cc/65kKzK3t/sf2-sar.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aSKEmearZM&feature=youtu.be)

[Nelly]

A few of my pics. I'm new to photography but they didn't turn out too bad. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190620/25dfffce4ce8a70689ddc6a04b661511.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190620/e9943004e42a56cec7d9984ce555815c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190620/d183c08fd1d139191c60459a2cf8c4a9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190620/3356a1c210f943c86e6e83e511344932.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190620/b296793e9fbc6c6251857a29a2249e1b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190620/3b2a29a4909c03a319d58852286795c1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190620/a43500a25797b1f19429f49b12860f5f.jpg

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[Francis44]

A few of my pics. I'm new to photography but they didn't turn out too bad.
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N.O.T would approve ;) , and I like them very much also.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I've seen some of the best recent rally photos from this rally - great action in the dust and spectacular scenery behind it. Great stuff.

[Norm75]

Great photos Nelly, stick at it.

[dimviii]

“I wasn’t really in the fight on this rally,” Neuville said. “It was not so easy – I never seemed to be on the right tyres and driving the car when we had no grip was not so much fun.

“For the differential problem, it was not 100 per cent [fixed], but I tried some new things to get some good feedback. We went with some different ramps in the diff. OK, you don’t go from black to white, it’s about [the compromise] with grip and stability, but I think we made progress.”

On the specifics of the test, Neuville added: “We had three days of rain and, obviously, the car was too soft [after the test]. We tested before Portugal and maybe that was a mistake – the temperature was definitely not the same, around 12 degrees and the road conditions were completely different.”

Because of those conditions close to Olbia, Neuville wasn’t able to run Michelin’s hard tyre which was used for half of the time during the rally.

Hyundai Motorsport director Andrea Adamo accepted the test wasn’t ideal, but added there was no other option.

Adamo said: “You can do mistakes if you have alternatives, if you have the chance to choose. For us it was not possible to test between the rallies. If there’s no alternative then you just take the best out of what is available. That’s the maximum you can do.”

https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/june-2019/neuville-rally-test-in-italy-costly/page/6469--12-12-.html

[mknight]

Yes according to what Loeb said Neuville and Loeb/Mikkelsen were running new diffs on the two rallies while Sordo had the old one.
Sordo was definitely by far fastest on Saturday in Sardinia. Strange thing is that Neuville was faster than Sordo on Saturday in Portugal with same road position as him and with similar temperatures s in Sardinia.

[dimviii]

and Loeb/Mikkelsen were running new diffs on the two rallies

if i remember correct,Loeb was running Mikkelsens diff setup

[mknight]

if i remember correct,Loeb was running Mikkelsens diff setup
Loeb and Neuville in Portugal were running the newly homologated diff that Mikkelsen and Neuville, "validated" on the wet test that was 5-6 days after Chile (a week before Portugal). This is the test mentioned in the interview that you quoted.

Loeb didn't do any test of it. Neuville did and it seemed to work for him in Portugal but not in Sardinia. It didn't seem to work for Loeb in Portugal and not really for Mikkelsen until Sunday in Sardinia either.

Sordo was seemingly running old diff on both rallies.

[Mk2 RS2000]

Sordo was seemingly running old diff on both rallies.

Think you will find that Sordo could be running the Paddon diffs from later half of last year