WRC ADAC Deutschland Rallye 2018

[Rallyper]

Breen fastest so far. Sun 1,1 after and LAP third +2,4 s.

[EstWRC]

very weird time gaps on this short panzerplatte, like in the morning

[Rallyper]

Sordo fastest, BRE +2,4 in 2nd

[EstWRC]

Latvala already missing some aero

[Rallyper]

JML +1,2 on SOR.
Edit: +1,3 s

[steve.mandzij]

Hyundai could maybe use some aero updates, it doesn't look as planted over the crests as the Toyota.

[Rallyper]

Neu +3,1

[Rallyper]

Neu: I had a good stage. Can´t match Dani"

[Rallyper]

Ogi: +0,2 "Clean good stage. Can´t do more."

[Rallyper]

TAN: +0,7 and o/a 13,6 to OGI. Sordo wins SS12 2 OGI 3 TAN

[steve.mandzij]

The rear package on the Fiesta looks to be helping through the corners but over the jumps it's horribly unbalanced.

[Rallyper]

Only a few uppdates from me later on. Anyone take over?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sordo jumped Neuville now.

[HaCo]

Starting every 3min is so annoying! Is that for our Greek friend, or some other reason?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yes and Ogier has said the same thing on every interview, every service and after every stage. It makes it more funny when he does it after a stage that Citröen win.

Because they always ask him the same question... can you go faster, can you catch Tanak.

[stefanvv]

Sordo - Latvala - battle, battle

[AL14]

Because they always ask him the same question... can you go faster, can you catch Tanak.

Well he had so many chances not to whine and just admit that Tanak is being faster and better than him. He wasted them all.

[wwbroe]

Sordo looking really quick on splits

[KKS]

I hope Latvala didn't crash trying to stay infront of Sordo

[EstWRC]

Ogier stopped

[wwbroe]

Ogier stopped

Really, why?

[mufcAleksi]

Ogier stopped!

[Tauri_J]

ogier 0 kph?

[KKS]

Wow

[EstWRC]

Really, why?

moving now, puncture it seems

[cosmin_sb]

puncture or...?

[KKS]

moving now, puncture it seems
2min stay or just brief stop ?

[EstWRC]

2min stay or just brief stop ?

yes about 2 minutes

[Rallyper]

Ogier stopped!!

[KKS]

Lappi very wide and sliding... not very good place do that on road with a plenty hinckelsteins

[HaCo]

Wow indeed...

[Tauri_J]

waiting for Ogier's comments....

[HaCo]

Well, he still has to pass here first :-)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Disaster for Ogier and the Championship battle.

[N.O.T]

bye bye mr Kaiser...

GO TANAK !!!! WIN THIS CHAMPIONSHIP !!!!

[KKS]

Jep... "Some justice in a sport"© :D

[KKS]

bye bye mr Kaiser...

GO TANAK !!!! WIN THIS CHAMPIONSHIP !!!!
and villige barn team? R U SERIOUS?

[flykas]

Terrible news

[EstWRC]

damn Tänak again nearly missed the stage win

[Watson]

and villige barn team? R U SERIOUS?

flipflopflipflopflipflopflipflop

[KKS]

damn Tänak again nearly missed the stage win
He should calm down now

[EstWRC]

He should calm down now

now he definitely will, he didnt know about Seb on the stage

And Tänak just saying he had puncture on small panzerplatte!

[cosmin_sb]

Neuville keep close to Latvala after this stage

[KKS]

Tanak with a puncture could do +0.7 time to stage winner. Or it was not puncture or this guy was massive quick!

[EstWRC]

man Lappi must get Neuville and we have a 3 way fight for the championship again!

[KKS]

Mikkelsen now should find some speed, cuz Ogier will catch him till Sunday or mb till Saturday end.

[KKS]

Puncture for Huttenen. Or some big problems.

Kopecky and half a stage gain half on Rovanpera gap.

[wwbroe]

What happened with Huttunen?

[focus206]

Tanak has this rally in his hands now, great performance from him so far.
Ogier is 9th after the puncture, but can easily climb back to 7th if all is fine with the car. Considering the power stage, he might lose only little points to Neuville, so he has still plenty of chances to win the championship.

[spiderem]

Sordo will go back behind latvala and neuville?

[EstWRC]

great sportmanship with Tänak stopping and shaking the hands with Ogier at the end of the stage

[N.O.T]

Sordo will go back behind latvala and neuville?

no canada he will not...

[wwbroe]

Tanak has this rally in his hands now, great performance from him so far.
Ogier is 9th after the puncture, but can easily climb back to 7th if all is fine with the car. Considering the power stage, he might lose only little points to Neuville, so he has still plenty of chances to win the championship.

That is true but chances are becoming smaller tough

[Mirek]

Kopecký nearly 20 seconds faster than Camilli on this stage but it will like still won't be enough because the remaining gap is still 45 seconds and there are only 5 stages to go.

[spiderem]

championship is Neuville to loose now.

[ZequeArgentina]

What a time by Jan, he is decided to get back to podium, and with this pace I am not sure which position. Tomorrow there are two 30 km stages plus super stage and the remaining of today´s

[Fast Eddie WRC]

great sportmanship with Tänak stopping and shaking the hands with Ogier at the end of the stage

He respects Ogier, pity others dont.

[spiderem]

no canada he will not...

thanks Korea...

[EstWRC]

https://www.upload.ee/image/8836112/ottseb.jpg

[wwbroe]

Kopecký nearly 20 seconds faster than Camilli on this stage but it will like still won't be enough because the remaining gap is still 45 seconds and there are only 5 stages to go.

I think he can come back to second position tough, wich would allready be great after his puncture

[wwbroe]

Puncture also for Tempestini?

[wwbroe]

Guis Greensmith stopped on stage

[N.O.T]

thanks Korea...

you mean BEST Korea...

[KKS]

Huttunen +13min
Greensmith - out
Bonato - out

Not a good stage for WRC2 cars

[jparker]

IF current trend continues then Neuville takes 6th place points and things look considerably better for Ogier (2nd place points). Tänak still has to win most if not all remaining rallies to beat them both...
Your "IF" jinxed Ogier's rally. Don't do it again.

[Ucci]

If nobody else, then I will write down: congratulations to the new WRC WC 2018-Neuville.
For me the championship battle is over. Mr.Ogier will run out of events.
We all knew that this day will come, now we have it.....roll on to the 2019.

[KKS]

If nobody else, then I will write down: congratulations to the new WRC WC 2018-Neuville.
For me the championship battle is over. Mr.Ogier will run out of events.
We all knew that this day will come, now we have it.....roll on to the 2019.
don't say like that, we have a LOT of SuperSpecials ahead :D

[N.O.T]

If nobody else, then I will write down: congratulations to the new WRC WC 2018-Neuville.
For me the championship battle is over. Mr.Ogier will run out of events.
We all knew that this day will come, now we have it.....roll on to the 2019.

Its neuville... so no.

[mknight]

Well for MSPORT this turned from very good rally to terrible over 3 stages.

[stefanvv]

If nobody else, then I will write down: congratulations to the new WRC WC 2018-Neuville.
For me the championship battle is over. Mr.Ogier will run out of events.
We all knew that this day will come, now we have it.....roll on to the 2019.

I have to agree. Hopefully there will be some interesting events left.

[Ucci]

Its neuville... so no.

????

[focus206]

If nobody else, then I will write down: congratulations to the new WRC WC 2018-Neuville.
For me the championship battle is over. Mr.Ogier will run out of events.
We all knew that this day will come, now we have it.....roll on to the 2019.

4 rounds left and the current one isn't finished yet... just one DNF or bad result from Neuville and they're basically even again. And Tanak is still not done yet.

[KKS]

7 of 11 new C3R5 starts lead to retirement. Very "good" replacement for not very good DS3R5 )

[Lead]

"We had a puncture on the previous one actually. On this stage it was a bit distracting at points because I saw Seb so close to me and I backed off a little bit."

Tanak comments after the stage. Where did he saw Seb so close to him? Did he caught him on the stage?

[N.O.T]

????

he is prone to dog acts...

[stefanvv]

Tanak comments after the stage. Where did he saw Seb so close to him? Did he caught him on the stage?

He was basically 15-20 seconds behind him.

[TWRC]

7 of 11 new C3R5 starts lead to retirement. Very "good" replacement for not very good DS3R5 )
And how many of those were Tempestini and Lefebvre crashing out?

[Lead]

Mikkelsen now should find some speed, cuz Ogier will catch him till Sunday or mb till Saturday end.
At this rate I think Ogier will pass him after last two today stages.
Mikkelsen should watch out from Serderidis, if the Greek gets more used to the car and finds some addional speed... :)

[KKS]

He was basically 15-20 seconds behind him.
It was 3 min gap so its 75-80sec

[wwbroe]

He was basically 15-20 seconds behind him.

Shouldn't that be 1min20? They start every three minutes?

[Ucci]

Mikkelsen should watch out from Serderidis, if the Greek gets more used to the car and finds some addional speed... :)
This one is a hard one...

[Lead]

He was basically 15-20 seconds behind him.

But thats too much to actually see a car in front of him?

[wwbroe]

So, how can he know Ogier had a puncture?

[KKS]

And how many of those were Tempestini and Lefebvre crashing out?
Only Bonato finished at Corsica and Leferbve at Portugal. Leferbve and Tempestini so far didn't crash here.... but rally not over yet.... will be.

[Indreq]

He was basically 15-20 seconds behind him.

Wasnt there 3 minutes starting interval? I thought maybe in some place road twists back so that cars with around 1:20 difference can see eachother or something

[eib1]

plenty of places to see 1:20 gap

https://www.upload.ee/image/8836315/panzerplatte.jpg

[N.O.T]

serderidis gives the word "trash" a whole new meaning... wow...

[stefanvv]

Shouldn't that be 1min20? They start every three minutes?

Usually they should be 2 mins interval, can't say for that stage.

[Tauri_J]

But thats too much to actually see a car in front of him?

double junction probably , pretty usual in panzerplatte

[HaCo]

Could someone check where Belgian Bedoret is? Can’t find him in the results...

[Lead]

This one is a hard one...

Maybe now he will focus more on the future tarmac tests, car setup and adjusting his driving style rahter than doing another triathlon...

[wwbroe]

Could someone check where Belgian Bedoret is? Can’t find him in the results...

He was in position 30

[wwbroe]

He was in position 30

28th after Pantzerplatte 2

[steve.mandzij]

Previous Catalunya winner now can't beat a rookie tarmac debutant.
Maybe now he will focus more on the future tarmac tests, car setup and adjusting his driving style rahter than doing another triathlon...

[HaCo]

28th after Pantzerplatte 2
Thanks, you know what happened maybe?

[wwbroe]

Thanks, you know what happened maybe?

No, not really, but he wasn't very fast

[Mirek]

Only Bonato finished at Corsica and Leferbve at Portugal. Leferbve and Tempestini so far didn't crash here.... but rally not over yet.... will be.

Yes but nearly all retirements were due to crashes. That's a pure fact.

[Lead]

Previous Catalunya winner now can't beat a rookie tarmac debutant.
No excuses for him. All this new driving style with no tail braking and get used to car and bla bla bla. He and the team together had a plenty of time to find solution, cause indicators was there.

[KKS]

Ogier?

Wrong alert from WRCLive

[Lead]

Ogier waves white flag?

EDIT: WRC glitch

[Indreq]

having tuned into wrc+ also now, i notice that commentators have learned to pronounce Ä in TÄnak but not in JÄrveoja :P

[mknight]

No excuses for him. All this new driving style with no tail braking and get used to car and bla bla bla. He and the team together had a plenty of time to find solution, cause indicators was there.
It does not seem to be the priority for the team.(1 day test and no car changes) Which in a way is understandable given the standings and since they have Sordo for tarmac. This might change as Neuville is starting to struggle on tarmac as well.

Paddon story of getting the dif he wanted first now in Finland after 1,5 years comess to mind.

[Lead]

Btw, its also Didier Auriol's birthday today. For the old times :beer:

[HaCo]

On FB planet Marcus thinks Ogier hit something before puncture on previous stage, did you notice this as well?

[ZequeArgentina]

Kopecky flying again, only 14 seconds down to Ogier in mid stage.

EDIT: and Camili stopped in stage!! Jan can even fight for victory after loosing 2 minutes due to puncture!

[Sulland]

having tuned into wrc+ also now, i notice that commentators have learned to pronounce Ä in TÄnak but not in JÄrveoja :P

So how is it pronounced in His language? Like in swedish/finish ?

[fegh]

Camilli stopped in road section, Alternator issue.

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[ESTR]

Finally I can be happy again

[HaCo]

Lefèvre just passsed with wheel off!!!

[HaCo]

I’m just before finish of Freisen, he lost I think 45sec.

[KKS]

lefèvre just passsed with wheel off!!!
loooooooooooooooooooool
:D

[KKS]

Jan +9.8 form WRC2 lead :)

[Indreq]

So how is it pronounced in His language? Like in swedish/finish ?

same as in finnish, i am not sure about swedish as i dont speak it more than necessary to buy beer.

[TypeR]

live maps glitch or Ogier is still at the end of the previous stage?

everything's OK, just a GPS error

[KKS]

Noooo craig!

[stefanvv]

Breen off on Evans corner

[KKS]

Ogier gain another place for free

[mknight]

Breen off on Evans corner
I'll repeat what I said on the morning when watching Østbergs onboard from it. "I wonder if someone tries it flat-out"

[Rallyper]

breen limping with RL wheel hanging loose.

[René]

Breen

https://twitter.com/i/status/1030857640652488704

[KKS]

Latvala now just 0.8 behind overall

[Jarek Z]

Lefèvre just passsed with wheel off!!!

Nothing new, is it? ;)

[Jarek Z]

So how is it pronounced in His language? Like in swedish/finish ?

Maybe like in German?

[mknight]

Yeah Toyota very close to 1-2 in Germany on Hyundais home rally with Ogier unable to follow Tänak.

Totally not dominating :)

[Jarek Z]

Kopecky flying again, only 14 seconds down to Ogier in mid stage.

EDIT: and Camili stopped in stage!! Jan can even fight for victory after loosing 2 minutes due to puncture!

I think Kopecky will win it in WRC2. He loses only 9 seconds to Rovanpera after SS14 (4 stages to go) and Rovanpera isn't exceptionally fast.

[SubaruNorway]

Ogier hit a big rock with the left rear
https://youtu.be/xecaSE03Gmw

[TWRC]

Maybe like in German?
I think Germans say ä more like "ee" or "é", whereas Finns say it like "aa" or "á", at least from German I was taught that way. :D

[denkimi]

Yeah Toyota very close to 1-2 in Germany on Hyundais home rally with Ogier unable to follow Tänak.

Totally not dominating :)
Lappi might even catch neuville.

It's not dominance like the vw days, but here they clearly have the best car by some margin.

[Jarek Z]

Could someone check where Belgian Bedoret is? Can’t find him in the results...

HaCo - Bedoret retired on SS 13, but I don't know why. Sorry!

[spiderem]

Lappi to pass Neuville tomorrow, and Ogier to pass mikkelsen, then few extra points for Ogier in the PS, championship become a 3 way fight again...

[wrc2017]

Lappi might even catch neuville.

It's not dominance like the vw days, but here they clearly have the best car by some margin.
I actually think Citroen have as good a car as Toyota in Germany.

[focus206]

Lappi to pass Neuville tomorrow, and Ogier to pass mikkelsen, then few extra points for Ogier in the PS, championship become a 3 way fight again...

Ogier might even score more points than Neuville in this rally... and people are saying the championship is over...

[Indreq]

Right now Toyota seems like fastest but lets not forget that their cooling issues and fragility has cost them massive points. Might be that this speed has a cost...

[spiderem]

Right now Toyota seems like fastest but lets not forget that their cooling issues and fragility has cost them massive points. Might be that this speed has a cost...

yes Turkey will be interesting to see how they perform...

[Eli]

God damn it Craig!! Can't catch a break can he?

[wrc2017]

breen limping with RL wheel hanging loose.

Sack him. Why not? He was in 6th place. If it was Meeke people to be calling for his head.

[Rallyper]

I think Germans say ä more like "ee" or "é", whereas Finns say it like "aa" or "á", at least from German I was taught that way. :D

Tänak should be pronounced with (ae)

[Rallyper]

Ogier was lucky not ripping off his LR wheel.

[denkimi]

Sack him. Why not? He was in 6th place. If it was Meeke people to be calling for his head.
Meeke would have crashed twice by this time, perhaps even more.

[stefanvv]

Tänak should be pronounced with (ae)

So it's pretty much English pronunciation. A bit like "tank".

[Tarmop]

So it's pretty much English pronunciation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U9v88nzCB8
:D

[stefanvv]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U9v88nzCB8
:D

Are You trying to get me a headache?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Driver places are still just seconds apart so a lot to play for still.

Neuville could easily drop to 5th and Ogier even easier get 6th tomorrow.

Plus Ogier can beat Neuville on the PS .

[Eli]

I know today we had quite some drama and battles going on but honestly yesterday was quite boring. Shame they didn't include any night stages for Friday here in Germany, would have made things even more interesting.

[Jarek Z]

So it's pretty much English pronunciation. A bit like "tank".

What? A German tank on Panzerplatte? :D

[Rallyper]

After SS15 Kalle Rovanperä now is in lead of WRC2...

[wrc2017]

Meeke would have crashed twice by this time, perhaps even more.

Give him time there still is one day left.
Also, Budier says you should know the road by the 2nd pass.
If there was a tree there and it flattened that car.. would that be sackable?

[stefanvv]

What? A German tank on Panzerplatte? :D

I think I'm short on drinks this evening. I'll catch up with You.

[Jarek Z]

I think I'm short on drinks this evening. I'll catch up with You.

Do you think I had too many drinks? ;)

http://www.independentsportsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/German-Tank.jpg

source:
https://www.thecheckeredflag.co.uk/2018/08/preview-2018-adac-rallye-deutschland/

[Mirek]

After SS15 Kalle Rovanperä now is in lead of WRC2...

You're one stage late. Already after SS14 ;)

Anyway very good performance from him so far despite some yesterday's forum criticism :)

[Mirek]

Do you think I had too many drinks? ;)

http://www.independentsportsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/German-Tank.jpg

source:
https://www.thecheckeredflag.co.uk/2018/08/preview-2018-adac-rallye-deutschland/

That's an M47 - an American tän(a)k ;)

[Jarek Z]

After SS15 Kalle Rovanperä now is in lead of WRC2...

Tomorrow will be interesting. There are only 8 seconds between Rovanpera, Andolfi, Kopecky and Kajetanowicz.

[Sulland]

Tänak should be pronounced with (ae)

So like the norwegian letter æ/Æ then.

[dimviii]

Ogier '' at this moment you just want to cry''

[stefanvv]

Do you think I had too many drinks? ;)

http://www.independentsportsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/German-Tank.jpg

source:
https://www.thecheckeredflag.co.uk/2018/08/preview-2018-adac-rallye-deutschland/

Yes I know Panzerplatte is tank military area, and I know what "Panzer" is. Just didn't got the joke much

[Jarek Z]

I'm sorry for offtopic everybody. I'm in a good mood today :)

[focus206]

Ogier '' at this moment you just want to cry''

He could have got it worse with that big stone...
I think he should be satisfied, he made a mistake and still has good chances of scoring more points than Neuville.

[stefanvv]

Ogier hit a big rock with the left rear
https://youtu.be/xecaSE03Gmw

With so many frightening hinkelsteins on this stage, Ogier just ignored this "regular" rock.

[SubaruNorway]

You're one stage late. Already after SS14 ;)

Anyway very good performance from him so far despite some yesterday's forum criticism :)

Andolfi was 0.8 in front or is it a mistake he's in WRC2?

5th to 1st in two stages was a bit crazy

[EstWRC]

Ogier https://youtu.be/xecaSE03Gmw

Day 2 results https://www.ewrc-results.com/leg/44263-adac-rallye-deutschland-2018/?leg=2

The Hyundai isn’t so bad car after all :p (I know, I know different type of stages )

[stefanvv]

OThe Hyundai isn’t so bad car after all :p (I know, I know different type of stages )

Yeaaaaahhhhh. But Toyota is going to take the title. Hyundai->:arrows:<-Toyota

[Mirek]

Andolfi was 0.8 in front or is it a mistake he's in WRC2?

5th to 1st in two stages was a bit crazy

You're right. There is a mistake in rally-base.com leaderboard (by 2 seconds at Andolfi's time). I have asked guys to fix it.

[HaCo]

HaCo - Bedoret retired on SS 13, but I don't know why. Sorry!
Thanks, he is official Skoda Belgium driver.

[JoostSchouten]

http://i66.tinypic.com/r25huc.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itWmzA4ySVE)

All the highlights of the WRC ADAC Rallye Deutschland 2018!
With crash of Elfyn Evans, hot moments on the Panzerplatte and a lot of other fast tarmac sections.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itWmzA4ySVE

[HaCo]

I know today we had quite some drama and battles going on but honestly yesterday was quite boring. Shame they didn't include any night stages for Friday here in Germany, would have made things even more interesting.
The question is: what drama will we see on the last day?

[rallysupportnl]

Footage from today: https://youtu.be/fVk9KAMWqLE

[HaCo]

I actually think Citroen have as good a car as Toyota in Germany.
I think so to, I actually hope Neuville goes to Citroen next year.

[PLuto]

You're right. There is a mistake in rally-base.com leaderboard (by 2 seconds at Andolfi's time). I have asked guys to fix it.

It was notional time decided by stewards, from my point of view another bad decision...

[ESTR]

I think so to, I actually hope Neuville goes to Citroen next year.

stupd...stupd...stupd

[wrc2017]

I think so to, I actually hope Neuville goes to Citroen next year.

I think that's a better chance than Ogier going there.

[hari]

Some images from Panzerplatte: http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_wrc_adac_rallye_deutschland_2018.html

http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2018/deutschland3/1.jpg
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2018/deutschland3/2.jpg
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2018/deutschland3/6.jpg
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2018/deutschland3/37.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2018/deutschland3/5.jpg

[René]

Ogier is there with a desire to be elsewhere. I think he's tired and unhappy. Always grumbling about everything with a negative attitude, and the prospect of being beaten regularly by Tanak and other young drivers will from my point of view precipitate his retirement. I may be wrong, but I don't see him continuing next year...

[mknight]

Ogier hit a big rock with the left rear
https://youtu.be/xecaSE03Gmw

Ogier saying "same line as all ways". As people wrote he could have ripped a wheel off.
Reminds me of that Sordo puncture last year in Sardinia. On one of the few TV stages he went wide into the ditch and on the following straight puncture started. Poker face and "no idea how it happened".

[KKS]

http://i66.tinypic.com/r25huc.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itWmzA4ySVE)

All the highlights of the WRC ADAC Rallye Deutschland 2018!
With crash of Elfyn Evans, hot moments on the Panzerplatte and a lot of other fast tarmac sections.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itWmzA4ySVE

Great video Joost! You can always find nice spots!

[wrc2017]

Ogier is there with a desire to be elsewhere. I think he's tired and unhappy. Always grumbling about everything with a negative attitude, and the prospect of being beaten regularly by Tanak and other young drivers will from my point of view precipitate his retirement. I may be wrong, but I don't see him continuing next year...

if he doesn't win championship he will retire and go DTM

[Tarmop]

Or it will motivate him even more to be on the top, when leaving...

[KKS]

I think so to, I actually hope Neuville goes to Citroen next year.
It's not gonna be happen. He no.1 driver with a team full of money which build a strong and fast car. They have problems in Finland.

[KKS]

Breens off - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBcs_hYRrQA

[Ucci]

http://i66.tinypic.com/r25huc.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itWmzA4ySVE)

All the highlights of the WRC ADAC Rallye Deutschland 2018!
With crash of Elfyn Evans, hot moments on the Panzerplatte and a lot of other fast tarmac sections.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itWmzA4ySVE
Thx for posting it...it is so fuc#*& fast, all time sideways.

[mknight]

It's not gonna be happen. He no.1 driver with a team full of money which build a strong and fast car. They have problems in Finland.

They also have real problems on smooth tarmac. Check SS11/15 here, 3 Hyundais as 3 last WRC. Here the Panzerplatte bumpy tarmac saves them from disaster results, but its not good anyway.

They have known about this since Spain last year and so far I don't see any massive effort to fix it. Nandan did mention some new parts expected to come before Spain so we'll see.

[Rally Power]

Gutted for Ogier and the rally; he was the only one still trying to catch Tanak. The Yaris is doing great but Toyota strongest advantage is Tanak; it’s him who’s making the difference.

Like Ogier several times last year, Neuville seems to be in defensive mode; he’s not confident to attack and P4 points are better than none but Sordo is bravely proving that the i20 can be competitive on tarmac.

Another disastrous day for Citroen; they lost the chance to fight for a top 5 overall and win WRC2.

Nice to see Rovanpera leading WRC2 (so far he beat fair and square much more experienced guys, like Kajto) but there’s no way he’ll cope Kopecky pace tomorrow.

[dimviii]

@LouiseCookGB twitter shewrote that a local farmer parked his car at stage and stage interrupted.
Any more of this?

[Rally Power]

Lefèvre just passsed with wheel off!!!

Citroen is trying to fool us:

@CitroenRacing
SS 14 – Freisen 2 (14,78 km) #WRC2 Puncture for @SLefebvreRallye

[KKS]

Citroen is trying to fool us:

@CitroenRacing
SS 14 – Freisen 2 (14,78 km) #WRC2 Puncture for @SLefebvreRallye
And puncture for Breen on SS15. Unlucky Citroen :D

[jparker]

He could have got it worse with that big stone...
I think he should be satisfied, he made a mistake and still has good chances of scoring more points than Neuville.
Even you don buy that, right?

[dimviii]

@yoannbonato has a photo of his c3 r5 and says that he didnt touch anything,just something broke at braking.

[Mirek]

Kopecký when asked about his puncture said he does know where it happened but didn't see any reason for it. He said it was likely a lose stone on the road which punctured the tyre when the car was in strong compression.

[MentalParadox]

Ogier said he had 'no idea' where he got that puncture. Meanwhile, literally everyone saw on WRC+ that he hit a stone when he cut a corner a little bit too much. Does he simply not remember, or is lying his standard MO? Why lie in an age where your every move is recorded by at least 5 cameras?

[focus206]

Even you don buy that, right?

Why? There are 2 x 30 Km stages plus the PS tomorrow, and Ogier is close to be right behind Neuville. A better PS would give him more points than Neuville for this round, don't you think it's possible? Of course, any of them could run into trouble tomorrow...

[janvanvurpa]

Tänak should be pronounced with (ae)

Well who taught the Finns and Estonians how to read and write? Didn't they come from Svealand? First they conqored them then 6 or 7 hundred years later they taught them to read and a hundred years or so later they taught them to write...Makes sense.

[stefanvv]

Ogier said he had 'no idea' where he got that puncture. Meanwhile, literally everyone saw on WRC+ that he hit a stone when he cut a corner a little bit too much. Does he simply not remember, or is lying his standard MO? Why lie in an age where your every move is recorded by at least 5 cameras?

He was "whining" at the stage end about the rocks on the stage.

[SubaruNorway]

Ogier said he had 'no idea' where he got that puncture. Meanwhile, literally everyone saw on WRC+ that he hit a stone when he cut a corner a little bit too much. Does he simply not remember, or is lying his standard MO? Why lie in an age where your every move is recorded by at least 5 cameras?

It seems like he already had the puncture, you can see him being annoyed by an alarm probably the TPMS at 4:10 and then smashes the front left in the rock just after it, thought it was weird he stopped after 20m.

[HaCo]

Citroen is trying to fool us:

@CitroenRacing
SS 14 – Freisen 2 (14,78 km) #WRC2 Puncture for @SLefebvreRallye
It’s possible that it started with a puncture, the suspension seemed to be ok, the round outside part of the rim came completely off when passing in front of us.

[KKS]

Good morning guys!
Very good mood at Toyotas camp, Janne again makes all laugh by kicking Ott while he interviewing by Becs :D

[KKS]

"Regular" tyre choice for this rally

#tyre (https://twitter.com/hashtag/tyre?src=hash) info Day 3:
All The Michelin @OfficialWRC (https://twitter.com/OfficialWRC) drivers with 5 MICHELIN Pilot Sport H5

[EstWRC]

Good morning guys. Let’s bring it home!

[rallyfiend]

Good morning guys!
Very good mood at Toyotas camp, Janne again makes all laugh by kicking Ott while he interviewing by Becs :D

Probably because Janne knows how much he's going to get paid next year at Citroen.

[KKS]

Nope, he is always very funny.

[mknight]

I expect:
- Latvala to pass Sordo and then Sordo drops behind Neuville on team orders
- Don't think Lappi catches Neuville
- Ogier passes Mikkelsen (obviously), whether Suninen does is harder to tell
- at least 1 more crash/puncture/spin since there are multiple close fights

Last year on Grafshaft:
- Sordo jumped off the road right after start on first pass
- Lappi ripped a wheel off on second pass

[KKS]

I expect:
- Latvala to pass Sordo and then Sordo drops behind Neuville on team orders
- Don't think Lappi catches Neuville
- Ogier passes Mikkelsen (obviously), whether Suninen does is harder to tell
- at least 1 more crash/puncture/spin since there are multiple close fights
1st & 2nd stage at vineyards that didn't suit to Hyundai... So maybe Lappi could do it

[N.O.T]

Ok lets see if Neuville grows a pair... and if Hyundai will give those british dogs a taste of their finnish medicine.

[mknight]

Neuville did well on vineyears on Friday? Certainly much better than on the open stages.

Sordo did not.. which is why Latvala will pass him.

[HaCo]

Latvala did not well in the vineyards either, Neuville did ok.
Let’s hope for not too much of drama.
Sun is still quite low, damp conditions I would say.
I am a very nice hairpin, with suberb overview... cars are coming now! :-D

[mknight]

The drama is on

Østberg out
Latvala with trouble
Sordo some small crash continuing

[EstWRC]

why? whyyyy????? Neuville in the end with second place, whatever

[HaCo]

What a stage!!!

[mknight]

why? whyyyy????? Neuville in the end with second place, whatever

Yeah in the end this hurts Tanak most. For Ogier it's about the same.

Toyota killed by their reliability again.

[KKS]

What a drama here

[HaCo]

Where is Sordo???

[KKS]

Neuville with great stage splits!!

[mknight]

Lappi getting 3rd on a rally where he was typically 5-6th in pace is funny.

[SubaruNorway]

Looked like power steering was gone for Sordo

[Rallyper]

Ostberg stopped. Sordo lost right side and window crashed. Latvala also with problem.

Edit: Ostberg off the road.

[KKS]

Latvala even worse

[EstWRC]

shit shit shit, damn im so angry at the moment

[mknight]

What a season for Latvala... half rallies car breaks the second half he crashes and in between he doesn't have speed.

[KKS]

Again Toyota messed-up Jari's rally!!! WHAT A FCUK!

[Rallyper]

Car lets Latvala down again...

[HaCo]

Who would have predicted this scenario.

[Lead]

What a morning...

[KKS]

Gearbox broken for LAtvala.... AGAIN!!!!!

[N.O.T]

crazy morning in Marx land !!!!

[mknight]

For Sordo it's back to last year in a way. Very good results on gravel and then mistakes on tarmac while he is fast.

[KKS]

Who would have predicted this scenario.
Maybe me
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[EstWRC]

Ogier up t 4th, lol

[mknight]

Kopecky not gaining as much as expected in WRC2.

[EstWRC]

Tänak must go for 5 points on power stage otherwise he doesnt gain basically anything from Neuville and Ogier.

[KKS]

Kopecky very strong last sector and halfed time difference to Rovanpera

[Rallyper]

What a dramatic first stage in the morning!

For me I´ll follow rest of the day on my IPhone. No more comments here.
Over and out.

[KKS]

Citroen in "Meeke karma" here. They didn't like that Meeke crashed between wins - they get other still crashed but without wins! Brilliant strategy Citroen! Just perfect!

[stefanvv]

With that pace Neuville was heading for 2nd anyway. Somehow Ogier wins from this carnage.

[AnttiL]

Rovanperä still leads WRC2.

Also great that Suninen is now fifth overall, a sensible drive on his first WRC tarmac rally.

[mknight]

With that pace Neuville was heading for 2nd anyway. Somehow Ogier wins from this carnage.

Well yes, first really good time from Nueville for the weekend. Don't think he'll do well on the more open powerstage though.

[KKS]

Leferbve slow again... it's not news just a fact. All Citroen team just "perfect"

[Eli]

Good morning everyone, wow what a stage to open the last day, and there is still another run Grafschaft and a power stage which is only run once...should be interesting.

[N.O.T]

Tänak must go for 5 points on power stage otherwise he doesnt gain basically anything from Neuville and Ogier.

still some rallies to go and his road postiion is very solid to win the next events... if they finish as they are now he gets 10 points from Mrs Kaisers lap doggy.

One step at a time... Neuville has no retirements this season... which is very rare... we will see.

[mknight]

I20 open racer coming up!

[Ucci]

What a morning...
For Ogier-good morning.

[Eli]

For Ogier-good morning.

'But what about Mikkelsen?'

[mknight]

Somehow this is a repeat of Poland 2017, then Ogier had no pace and made a mistake as well but still got 3rd. Now here it's Neuville.

[dnb]

For Ogier-good morning.

No, only for Neuville, their virtual point gap has increased

[HaCo]

An Opel Adam just catched Fiesta R5 from Vossen in the stage...

[Ucci]

No, only for Neuville, their virtual point gap has increased

At the end yes, but who would it thought for Seb to bring the car up to 4th place after yesterday's disaster?

[KKS]

An Opel Adam just catched Fiesta R5 from Vossen in the stage...
This is Martin Sesks!!! Very fast and promising young man! He was a way faster at homeland of Latvia. And this year is first of his international rallying with Opel

[Ucci]

Tempestini-lost 4 minutes? What is wrong?

[Ucci]

And the Italian rally star Umberto Scandola; what has happened?

[krissucool]

Neuville is the luckiest motherfucker in all of motorsport.
And jesus christ are the Toyotas unreliable. Can somebody count how many technical issue related retirements Latvala has had in 2 years? The other weird part seems to be how they seem to happen to certain guys.
Mexico was a disaster but overall Tänaks mechanical issues seem to have somekind of a reason behind it, either a random stone damaged something or whatever. Latvala seems to have all the gearbox issues, electronical issues and so on.

I sometimes think is there something the driver can do about it? Can they be more thorough in check in the service. Is it that they have shittier mechanics dealing with their car or is it just purely bad luck.

[KKS]

Tempestini-lost 4 minutes? What is wrong?
He got a Citroen... that's a reason

[Rallyper]

Neuville is the luckiest motherfucker in all of motorsport.
And jesus christ are the Toyotas unreliable. Can somebody count how many technical issue related retirements Latvala has had in 2 years? The other weird part seems to be how they seem to happen to certain guys.
Mexico was a disaster but overall Tänaks mechanical issues seem to have somekind of a reason behind it, either a random stone damaged something or whatever. Latvala seems to have all the gearbox issues, electronical issues and so on.

I sometimes think is there something the driver can do about it? Can they be more thorough in check in the service. Is it that they have shittier mechanics dealing with their car or is it just purely bad luck.

Where did you get your air from?

[Rallyper]

Roavnperä outpaces Veiby and other drivers in WRC2. Except for his podium contenders. What´s wrong with the others?