[WRC] Tour de Corse 2018 (Apr 5-8)

[BigWorm]

Leave it Desborough, no one is going to put pressure on Ogier. The battle is for second spot.

[KKS]

Fight for 2nd in WRC2 really on. 11.5 sec from Veiby

[racerx1979]

Is all live done for the day??? Desborough said see you tomorrow??

[RS]

Is all live done for the day??? Desborough said see you tomorrow??

No, he meant for BT viewers.

[racerx1979]

I guess he lives in his own bubble

[Mirek]

Big time loss for Greensmith.

[A FONDO]

He can't do faster, look at the teammates... then they asked, what is the difference, his answer: only the driver.

To be precise, they asked him "What is different in your car compared to theirs?" and he said "Nothing. The driver." Not very arrogant himself, stupid female journalist forced him say that.

[dimviii]

Franceschi just passed Folb.

[rallyfiend]

Is all live done for the day??? Desborough said see you tomorrow??

That stage was a Live TV one.

[SubaruNorway]

To be precise, they asked him "What is different in your car compared to theirs?" and he said "Nothing. The driver." Not very arrogant himself, stupid female journalist forced him say that.

Instead of calling people stupid you should know there is a difference to their driving styles which affects how they set up the car, I'm sure Molly know's there is a difference that's why she asks the question ;)

Mikkelsen goes into detail in this interview if it makes sense in your own language.
https://parcferme.no/rally/sa-stor-er-forskjellen-pa-kjorestilen-mellom-andreas-og-thierry/

[Rallyper]

Yeah, Veiby really picked up some great speed today. Soon ahead of Bonato.

[linni]

According to Estonian press Tänak promised not to touch handbrake this afternoon anymore to avoid stalling.

[dimviii]

BILLIOT Jérémie
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@planetemarcus

#WRC Toyota GAZOO Racing becomes fastest Manufacturer with 20SS wins in 2018 ► http://bit.ly/XL8nl9




Andreas Mikkelsen

Analyzing the morning loop and looking for improvements for the afternoon loop. More changes to be done, also for the driver! #WRC #TourdeCorse #HMSGOfficial

https://twitter.com/AMikkelsenRally/status/982565572834623488



and the quote of the day goes to Ferm

Rallirinki / Teemu
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Becs: This is a tough event for co-driver, how have you managed to call notes in time?
Janne Ferm: So far I've been in the finish before Esapekka, so we are doing fine!
If we'd get to vote for #WRC's funniest guy, @Veermi is the man.




Rallirinki / Teemu
@HartusvuoriWRC
Carlos del Barrio says they have 121 pages of pacenotes for Sunday's opening 55 kilometre SS11 Vero - Sarrola-Carcopino stage. That must be some kind of a record! #WRClive @DaniSordo #TdC

[dimviii]

SAT 12:38 - MID-DAY REGROUP: LOEB
"Yeah I'm disappointed with what happened yesterday. That's life, now we have to think about the rest of the rally and forget about yesterday. Even we are not fighting for victory, it is nice to drive cars like this on days like today. "I had a big smile on my face when I finished the first stage, I enjoyed it a lot."

SAT 12:33 - MID-DAY REGROUP: NEUVILLE
"Difficult, challenging, but really enjoyable. I had a good rhythm. I was happy with time, we didn't lose too much to Meeke and managed to build the gap for the afternoon. "Some of the corners were tighter than I thought! We have been on edge all day."

SAT 12:30 - MID-DAY REGROUP: MEEKE
"The first stage was a good stage for me, the other two on the loop were a disaster. I just don't have the same feeling as last year, I'm going to put last year's set-up on the car for the afternoon and see what happens."

SAT 12:29 - MID-DAY REGROUP: LAPPI
"Yeah happy with how it has gone today. Morning loop was very good, but it is easy to do well when you can be confident in the grip of the tyre. "I will not try to deliberately push and catch Tanak, if I push harder it is easier to make a mistake."

[dimviii]

SAT 12:22 - MID-DAY REGROUP: LATVALA
Latvala complains about his brakes, he's locking his brakes out on the stages and he's going to use service to look for a solution to that problem.

SAT 12:18 - MID-DAY REGROUP: SORDO
Dani Sordo: "I've changed the suspension a bit overnight, I'm trying to push in every stage and the times just aren't there. It is not something wrong in the car, perhaps it is just the wrong set-up." Dani Sordo sounding a bit downbeat at the regroup at Bastia Airport there, he's also not entirely happy with his pacenotes either.

SAT 12:24 - MID-DAY REGROUP: MALCOLM WILSON
[On Phil Mills] "Being a co-driver is a really tough job, it's not easy for Phil and it's not easy for Elfyn either. But they're still here and there's chance for improvement this afternoon."

SAT 12:23 - MID-DAY REGROUP: PHIL MILLS
"The stages are all unique in their own right. All are a big challenge. "It's been working well with Elfyn, we were looking good on SS5 but we went round a hairpin and stalled - if it wasn't for that we would have got a decent time."

[Eric]

Instead of calling people stupid you should know there is a difference to their driving styles which affects how they set up the car, I'm sure Molly know's there is a difference that's why she asks the question ;)

Mikkelsen goes into detail in this interview if it makes sense in your own language.
https://parcferme.no/rally/sa-stor-er-forskjellen-pa-kjorestilen-mellom-andreas-og-thierry/

Give Mikkelsen this season to make the car suit his way of driving and im 100% he will be at the same pace - and even better than Neuville. 4-5 years with the same car compared to 6 months, thats a BIG difference and thats what we are seeing now.

[steve.mandzij]

Give Mikkelsen this season to make the car suit his way of driving and im 100% he will be at the same pace - and even better than Neuville. 4-5 years with the same car compared to 6 months, thats a BIG difference and thats what we are seeing now.The problem still comes down to Mikkelsen: he's either adapting too slowly or not quick enough on his own.

[Eric]

The problem still comes down to Mikkelsen: he's either adapting too slowly or not quick enough on his own.

Neuville used 3 years to adapt to the Hyundai.. And still he is struggling to get find the rhythm in many rallies.

[dimviii]

Neuville used 3 years to adapt to the Hyundai.. And still he is struggling to get find the rhythm in many rallies.

Eric you are right,almost everybody needs time to adjust/be adjusted to a new car.
The problem is that other drivers react faster.See Tanak? Everything new,he is straggling somehow,but you can see the big potential.
Most stage wins till now.
The other BIG problem,not only for Mikkelsen,but for all the drivers,is that Ogier seems he has setuped perfectly with Fiesta.
He seems that he find the sweet spot at asphalt and gravel.
He had hard times last year to adapt,and Neuville(and not only him) lost his chance.
These chances doesnt happen often for '' win machines'' like Ogier.

[EstWRC]

Everybody with hard tyres again

[dimviii]

lol

Citroën Racing
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@CitroenRacing

@SLefebvreRallye and @moreaugabin won't restart tomorrow and they are already focused on @rallydeportugal to come back stronger.
#WRC2 #C3R5 #TourdeCorse

[mknight]

On the first split after 8km Latvala is 8s faster than in the morning! wtf?

[Eric]

Eric you are right,almost everybody needs time to adjust/be adjusted to a new car.
The problem is that other drivers react faster.See Tanak? Everything new,he is straggling somehow,but you can see the big potential.
Most stage wins till now.
The other BIG problem,not only for Mikkelsen,but for all the drivers,is that Ogier seems he has setuped perfectly with Fiesta.
He seems that he find the sweet spot at asphalt and gravel.
He had hard times last year to adapt,and Neuville(and not only him) lost his chance.
These chances doesnt happen often for '' win machines'' like Ogier.

Agree with that. Tanak has impressed in the Toyota, although he seems to struggle more now than what I expected after Monte.
Ogier is the best driver today, no doubt about that. I cant see who will be able to push him down from the top.. As you say, last year they had their chance - no one was good enough. I dont think we will see another world champ before he retires.

[dimviii]

Bouffier stopped

[Essaj]

Latvala stopped :o

[KKS]

OMG and Latvala

[mknight]

On the first split after 8km Latvala is 8s faster than in the morning! wtf?

And now stopped.... that couldn't have ended well.

[Eric]

Latvala stopped

[dimviii]

M-Sport

Bryan and Xavier are stopped on SS8. Looks like an engine issue and they’ll go no further today. #WRC #TourdeCorse

[EstWRC]

Latvala was going crazy fast

[linni]

Latvala went off and is stuck.

[EstWRC]

Neuville very slow in first split

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen 4 sec faster at 2nd pass

[rp]

It´s game over for Latvala. It was a bad mistake by Tommi to take Tänak, because too much pressure for JML and he is nowadays the slowest Toyota driver. Maybe his last WRC season, but can still drive next year as a 3rd driver, because Kalle is not yet ready. Surely in 2020 Rovanperä will drive the Toyota WRC....

[mknight]

Neuville very slow in first split

on 2nd it's Hyundai on last 3 places. Today they do seem to have real issues.

[mufcAleksi]

For god's sake, how is it so hard to get pictures of a stopped Latvala on all live?

[EstWRC]

not a good middle split from Ott

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans closed on Sordo... :)

[dimviii]

Lappi -15,3 from first pass

[EstWRC]

Lappi and Loeb really love this stage

[Mirek]

It´s game over for Latvala. It was a bad mistake by Tommi to take Tänak, because too much pressure for JML and he is nowadays the slowest Toyota driver.

How was taking better and much younger driver a mistake?

[dimviii]

Bonato stopped?

[rp]

How was taking better and much younger driver a mistake?

Not for Toyota, but for Latvala :)

[EstWRC]

Tänak gave all of this advantage away with the second part of the stage over Meeke and Neuville, damn

but the next two ones suit him

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak must be getting worried about Lappi.

[KKS]

Latvala down 18min and on move

[mknight]

Looks like Neuville got back to speed from the first slow splits a bit. Impressed by Lappi today, 1-2 fast stages can always happen (like Bouffier yesterday) but he is consistently fast. He needs it after mediocre season so far.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville losing more to Meeke. :(

[BigWorm]

Still in second. But probably not for long though.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier still increasing his lead.

[HaCo]

Ogier still increasing his lead.

Very depressing stuff...

[Rallyper]

We all lokoking forward to Loeb doing full season next year. (Never thought I´d write this, but still...)

[dimviii]

no time for Loeb? lol

[EstWRC]

The ending of the stage is just massive from lappi. I mean he takes 4-5 secs out of everyone with that split alone

[Essaj]

Latvala is done for the event. Roll cage damaged.

[Mirek]

Bonato moving again, Loubet stopped.

[KKS]

Car "tree setup" method for Latvala :D

[Rallyper]

JML maybe damaged the rollcage, then?

[steve.mandzij]

Damn it Latvala! Such a shame... He was going well on the stage.

It looks like the pressure might be getting to him.

[mknight]

That Yaris actually looked quite interesting.

[dimviii]

4 beers for the mate give me Loeb time.

[KKS]

4 beers for the mate give me Loeb time.
+0,5 to Lappi

[dimviii]

Latvalas damaged cage
https://twitter.com/TorAndreBorrese/status/982621571062927360

[dimviii]

+0,5 to Lappi

this is last split?

[KKS]

this is last split?
final time

[KKS]

Latvalas damaged cage
https://twitter.com/TorAndreBorrese/status/982621571062927360
This cage didn't pass FIA inspection?

[dimviii]

final time

ok when you come to Acropolis i own you 4 beers.

[steve.mandzij]

Latvalas damaged cage
https://twitter.com/TorAndreBorrese/status/982621571062927360Noooo!

I think I know what's missing from 2018 Latvala: fearlessness. He had nothing to lose last year and didn't expect to be in the title fight so he was maximum attack always. Now he's got a proper chance and much to lose, too much to keep him calm. He needs to take more risks, even if it ends in disaster like today.

[dimviii]

wtf?


SAT 16:15 - SS8: BONATO
"No issues, just a lot of GPS alerts in the car telling us to stop. When we get that type of alert on the dash we have to stop. I think there was a problem with the dash."

[dimviii]

Latvalas damaged cage from better angle
https://www.ewrc-results.com/quickp/44258_dal5vf4w4aapxyc.jpg

[KKS]

this is last split?
orrrrr......

http://i.piccy.info/i9/3f25d5767c8fdf83b4b2b07fc9b82034/1523110781/187808/1149228/Loeb_SS08.jpg

[KKS]

splits down now too? everywhere

[René]

(11 - Loeb Sébastien / Elena Daniel): Yeah it is frustrating coming through the stages not competing for a win, but I am enjoying the driver and the stages.
ES8: 21:46.09

[KKS]

wtf?


SAT 16:15 - SS8: BONATO
"No issues, just a lot of GPS alerts in the car telling us to stop. When we get that type of alert on the dash we have to stop. I think there was a problem with the dash."
I assume that no Loeb time (and other times) and this what happen to Bonato - somehow connected.

[René]

Following a chronometric problem after Jari-Matti Latvala's off, it's impossible for us to confirm Sébastien Loeb's time. It seems however that he is 2nd. Confirmation in a few minutes.

[cosmin_sb]

what Kopecky time on this stage?

[dimviii]

what Kopecky time on this stage?

KKS with 2 beers can give you the time.

[KKS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaL-1f5WsAASwQ_.jpg

[dimviii]

times appeared at ewrc.cz

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_04_2018/post-93-0-80202700-1523111385.png

[KKS]

KKS with 2 beers can give you the time.
I can.. but in fact that time was wrong. Table from wrc+ pop-up for a seconds wrong time

[steve.mandzij]

Does anyone know if Latvala was fastest on the first split?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

All Live gave the SS8 splits and stage times perfectly...

[dimviii]

Does anyone know if Latvala was fastest on the first split?

yes was fastest 0,4 from Lappi

http://webappsdata.wrc.com/web/classification/classification.html?{%22event%22:{%22eventid%22:%2 2209a7294-32ec-489e-bd86-14488dcc3f14%22}}

[steve.mandzij]

All Live gave the SS8 splits and stage times perfectly...Splits on the WRC app didn't work last time I checked, and I don't have All Live...

[KKS]

what Kopecky time on this stage?
22:49.3 from video

[EstWRC]

a little delay for SS9

[Mirek]

22:49.3 from video

22:50,5 officially.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

For Julian Porter
https://i.imgur.com/B6KPZwD.jpg

[KKS]

Latvala - retire

[EstWRC]

Ott slower than in the morning, he must watch Lappi

[dimviii]

Ott slower than in the morning, he must watch Lappi

Lappi 2 sec faster from morning pass

[EstWRC]

Meeke, Neuville and Tänak so neck to neck

[KKS]

8:36.8 for Neuville and Meeke up to 2nd. And splits telling - it's possible

[ESTR]

And Ogier just drive while others have much work with each other.

[KKS]

Joint 2nd :D

[EstWRC]

haha joint time for Neuville and Meeke and Tänak just 3.1 sec behind

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Joint times Meeke / Neuville !

[ESTR]

Clever driver will win this battle. I think that one of them will lost a battle and retire. All of them are pretty much in the game for that.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

(10 - Meeke Kris / Nagle Paul): I'm trying everything out there, I'm absolutely on the limit for it and I'm on last year's set-up, that feels better.

[EstWRC]

lol

Neuville Thierry - Gilsoul Nicolas

"I have nothing to say." / "Nemám co říct."

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Seb Ogier: "If someone says they are 100% in control in rallying they are lying."

[mknight]

lol

Neuville Thierry - Gilsoul Nicolas

"I have nothing to say." / "Nemám co říct."

Well yesterday he was clearly 2nd, today he might even drop to 4th.

This is quite telling:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/leg/44258-corsica-linea-tour-de-corse-2018/?leg=2

6th on Saturday leg.

[EstWRC]

that long stage tomorrow morning will be very very interesting for 2nd place...if Lappi continues like this then my money is on him.

[Rallyper]

Latest news on WRC+. Very good progress having Tommis own words live!!

[dimviii]

that long stage tomorrow morning will be very very interesting for 2nd place...if Lappi continues like this then my money is on him.

hard stage for everybody with these tight gaps this 55km long. Seems there will be the crucial point.

[KKS]

Rollcage repairing will be on service on Latvala car. I see this first... I thought that rollcage didn't allow to repair during a rally

[Rallyper]

I think we have brilliant coverage from SP at WRC+ atm.

[dimviii]

https://twitter.com/rallyparadise/status/982646884471857152

[EstWRC]

TGR_WRC
‏

@TGR_WRC
7m7 minutes ago
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After a preliminary inspection of car #7, the FIA has confirmed that the team can do the three-hour Rally 2 service to attempt to restart tomorrow. The FIA will reinspect the car and if the work has been successful, @JariMattiWRC can restart. #TourdeCorse

[dimviii]

any link with splits please?

[KKS]

no stage - no splits

[rage82]

https://michelinmotorsport.com/Evenement/2018-Tour-de-Corse

[Rallyper]

To me it looks like Huyndais´engine is a bit lack of power...
Fiesta seems more edgie.

[dimviii]

https://michelinmotorsport.com/Evenement/2018-Tour-de-Corse

no data were found.

any other link please?

[Mirek]

no data were found.

any other link please?

It works. Just only now first split appeared.

[EstWRC]

so what will be the top3 today?

[dimviii]

It works. Just only now first split appeared.

http://webappsdata.wrc.com/web/classification/classification.html?%7B%22event%22:%7B%22eventid%2 2:%22209a7294-32ec-489e-bd86-14488dcc3f14%22%7D%7D

[EstWRC]

meeke stopped

[er88]

If Lappi actually passes Ott that would be a huge statement of intent from him. The Toyota has been working superb today which I've been pleasantly surprised with, but I'm even more surprised that Lappi is comfortably the fastest Toyota man.

I was never totally convinced with him in wrc2 (as in having potential to be a future champion), but when you factor in how much less experience he has compared to all the other guys in top machinery it shows you he really does have an abundance of potential/quality

[Eric]

Oh Meek

[dimviii]

Meeke stopped

[mknight]

If Lappi actually passes Ott that would be a huge statement of intent from him. The Toyota has been working superb today which I've been pleasantly surprised with, but I'm even more surprised that Lappi is comfortably the fastest Toyota man.

I was never totally convinced with him in wrc2 (as in having potential to be a future champion), but when you factor in how much less experience he has compared to all the other guys in top machinery it shows you he really does have an abundance of potential/quality

He is a huge surprise yes. Especially since he has not had a good rally since Finland last year.

[Rallyper]

Meeke has no roadmemory.

[ESTR]

I had a feeling that this would happen. Well Meeke is trying too much, isn't he?

[dimviii]

total fiasco for Citroen,inside their home rally, wrc and wrc 2

[EstWRC]

joint fastest time for Toyotas!

[Mirek]

total fiasco for Citroen,, wrc and wrc 2

Maybe not in WRC2. The time Bonato lost was likely due to safety system error and he might get a notional time instead.

[KKS]

HOW LONG IT WILL CONTINUE???

agrrrr... I so mad!

[dimviii]

joint fastest time for Toyotas!

i d like to know what Latvala thinking right now.

[dimviii]

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_04_2018/post-2779-0-94974600-1523120131.jpeg

[EstWRC]

Thierry was mega mad and Tänak up to second with just 0.1 seconds!

[dimviii]

Tanak 2nd for 0,1 sec

[mknight]

Quite a disaster for Citroen on what beforehand looked like possible 1-2 rally.

[mknight]

Thierry was mega mad and Tänak up to second with just 0.1 seconds!

From the heli you could clearly see how he was doing scandinavian-flick style turn in while doing mid-speed corners on tarmac... while Toytoa and Ford drive on rails.

[dimviii]

Lappi today has gained 29,6 sec to Neuville.
3rd position is already lost for Neuville if he keeps at this rythm
https://www.ewrc-results.com/leg/44258-corsica-linea-tour-de-corse-2018/?leg=2

[EstWRC]

its just so calming and brings a smile to my face to watch Loeb at the stage ends...he is so cool guy.

man, how i wish he would do a whole season.

[dimviii]

Sat 19:05 - SS10: Neuville
Neuville through the final stage now in an 11m10.3s - 3.2sec slower than Tanak & Lappi. "I have nothing to say! I try, I try, I try! If we continue like this we will also be off the road." Neuville sounds exasperated after SS10.

[KKS]

Veiby on trouble
stuck on 1st gear

[EstWRC]

damn trouble for Veiby

[EstWRC]

stage wins

@SebOgier 3
@SebastienLoeb 3
@EsapekkaLappi 2
@OttTanak 2

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Imagine how Breen is feeling - he loves this rally..

[Rallyper]

I think Veiby only looses one place o/a

[dimviii]

Veiby stacked with one gear?

[Mirek]

I think Veiby only looses one place o/a

If he can get to the service and if Bonato's time from SS8 isn't changed.

[dimviii]

is it long way to service? will be difficult with one gear.

[er88]

Is anyone honestly surprised Meeke mishears pacenotes or loses track? I can't follow his notes on on-boards as they are crammed with info and rattled off at a million miles an hour.

That's not a criticism of Nagle btw, if Kris didn't like how things were going he'd alter the notes or have changed his trusted co driver long before now. It's almost information overload in his notes

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke said that he doesnt listen -he takes the info in sub-consciously.

[KKS]

is it long way to service? will be difficult with one gear.
67km but it seems like 1:20hrs should be enough

[KKS]

Meeke said that he doesnt listen -he takes the info in sub-consciously.
all drivers do that. Even I when playing RBR

[Mirek]

Is anyone honestly surprised Meeke mishears pacenotes or loses track? I can't follow his notes on on-boards as they are crammed with info and rattled off at a million miles an hour.

That's not a criticism of Nagle btw, if Kris didn't like how things were going he'd alter the notes or have changed his trusted co driver long before now. It's almost information overload in his notes

By the way somebody wrote here that Sordo has over 120 pages of pacenotes for tomorrow's long stage. Kopecký has 45.

[COD]

i d like to know what Latvala thinking right now.

He should be thinking about retirement plans...

[KKS]

By the way somebody wrote here that Sordo has over 120 pages of pacenotes for tomorrow's long stage. Kopecký has 45.
Carlos explain that amount of pages because he wrote large symbols on page, so not many info per page

[EstWRC]

lol so big difference? 45 and 120?

[dimviii]

Sat 19:21 - SS10: Meeke
The Citroen team believes Meeke was two gears too high into the corner. He was in fifth when he should have been in third. A misheard pacenote is to blame.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Listening to Phil Mills earlier it was easy to follow and see each corner he was calling.

[mknight]

Well even though it looked unlikely there are some tactical possibilities for tomorrow.

Loeb, Meeke (even if he rejoins in 8th) and maybe even Mikkelsen could all drive the long stage slowly to save tires for PS. Maybe even on softs? Question is if any of them will.

[Rallyper]

If he can get to the service and if Bonato's time from SS8 isn't changed.

Didn´t follow. Why Bonatos´time would be changed?

[Mirek]

Didn´t follow. Why Bonatos´time would be changed?

There was a wrong alert of the stage safety system which caused him to stop for several minutes.

[René]

At Kriss Meeke's request a next evolution of the C3 for FIA homologation


https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/11/47/50/08/meeke_10.jpg (https://servimg.com/view/11475008/450)

[steve.mandzij]

He should be thinking about retirement plans...Now now, let's not say anything silly

[Eli]

For one stage I'm not following the rally and this happens, really frustrated about Citroen's decision not to bring the 3rd car for Breen here & in Mexico.

[ESTR]

Off topic... But worth mentioning - Hyundai placed 1-2 in touring championship first round of newly formed cup... At least there was put effort and payed off so far.

[KKS]

Sordo at 1:30... very funny :D
https://www.facebook.com/WorldRally/videos/vb.35390480677/10155520205010678/?type=2&theater

I love rally for such good friendship moments

[KKS]

and dimviii I really like when you post interesting videos after rally day. Seems Corsica exception to this rule

[EstWRC]

GR_WRC
‏

@TGR_WRC
11m11 minutes ago
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Update regarding @JariMattiWRC's car: During the three-hour service, the damage was found to be worse than the initial inspection showed. It will not be possible to fix it at the rally, so car #7 will not restart tomorrow. #TourdeCorse

[KKS]

Bonato receive at SS08 Ciamin time - 23:19.4 +11.3 to Veiby despite he was quicker on 1st split than O.C. by 1.8 sec. And now overall after day2 ahead of Meeke by 54sec.

[EstWRC]

and dimviii I really like when you post interesting videos after rally day. Seems Corsica exception to this rule

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOt6y4ElHMs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQUcaZiSmzE

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://youtu.be/eP8eoSdFK-c incl Lavala off.

[KKS]

GR_WRC
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@TGR_WRC
11m11 minutes ago
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Update regarding @JariMattiWRC's car: During the three-hour service, the damage was found to be worse than the initial inspection showed. It will not be possible to fix it at the rally, so car #7 will not restart tomorrow. #TourdeCorse
It was expected depends on how much damaged roll-cage was
http://i.piccy.info/i9/54c7dec4781069627be14227b54ffd99/1523134575/218591/1149228/JML_rollcage.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke
We are ONE💪 see you tomorrow! #wrc #citroen https://t.co/8ylYdoverA

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Update regarding @JariMattiWRC's car: During the three-hour service, the damage was found to be worse than the initial inspection showed. It will not be possible to fix it at the rally, so car #7 will not restart tomorrow. #TourdeCorse https://t.co/szjcPU0hJB

[KKS]

https://youtu.be/eP8eoSdFK-c incl Lavala off.
seems to be distracted by pacenotes change and miss breaking

[EstWRC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSFb0Hb93XU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WwYahtMyLw

[steve.mandzij]

seems to be distracted by pacenotes change and miss breakingI was gonna say the rear brakes locked but that was probably because of the missed braking. Such a shame.

[nafpaktos]

Just saw the onboard from Kris,the co driver said 3 left minus.The speed was obviously not for 3 left minus.Really big shame.

[USER47]

Some detailed info from Meeke:
https://www.facebook.com/krismeeke

"Hi everyone,

You’ll know by now, probably, that our fight for a podium place on the Tour de Corse ended in disappointment this afternoon - in the same stage, wouldn’t you know, that accounted for our hopes last year as well, albeit in a very different fashion.

We started well this morning with a good time on the first test of the day, and then on the two stages that made up the rest of the Saturday loop, we were a bit off the pace. I was struggling to work out why, to be honest, because we were certainly trying hard enough and the rhythm had felt good too.

Then at lunchtime service we made some changes to the set-up - taking the car closer to how it was 12 months ago, in a way. But in the repeat run through the longer of the three stages, I touched a kerb and I thought I had a puncture, so we weren’t as quick as we could have been. Then on the penultimate stage of the day, our time was a bit better again and we were able to draw level with Thierry Neuville in second place.

Things went wrong for us in the final stage of the day, though. We had to wait for a long time beside the car because there are so many cars in the rally that it was ages before recovery could get to us. I was confused about what happened and we didn’t want to give out any incorrect information.

But we’ve had a chance now to look at onboard footage and it seems that Paul got a bit mixed up in the notes. He called a ‘fast five left’ when it should have been a ‘three’, so I was all guns blazing into a tighter corner than we’d expected. You can’t change the laws of physics so we ended up a fair way off the road, down a bit of a hillside. It was an interesting moment, for sure.

This is the first time that Paul has ever made a mistake like this. He’s gutted, of course.

I want to be absolutely clear on this, though: Paul and I win together and we lose together. We have enjoyed many successes over the years, and his ability to fire out pacenotes in great detail has played a key part in that. He has sat with me many, many times when I’ve been the one to make a mistake, and the consequences have been a lot worse than they were today. So we will both take it on the chin, move on and go again - it is as simple as that. We are a team.

We may get a chance to get right back into it tomorrow morning, as it turns out. The car’s not too badly damaged and as long as they manage to get it back up the mountainside in one piece, I’d be reasonably hopeful that we can get back out for the Sunday stages. Keep your fingers crossed.

Thank you, as always, for your support,

Kris"

[noel157]

Meeke onboard for those without Live:

Only get less than 2 meg here so useless quality but certainly wrong note called:

http://sendvid.com/sacdtf95?secret=fe614c7c-236e-4aa9-8536-bd49464ce2bf

[stefanvv]

He called a ‘fast five left’ when it should have been a ‘three’

The note seems for the previous corner, Nagle did called 3 left-

[mknight]

Yeah he repeated the previous note once, before saying the correct one but then they were already in the breaking. Sometimes he does repeat the previous note one more time also on other occasions. But here Meeke could have though that it's the note for next corner.


That said note just how many notes there are for 2 "simple" corners. It's a bit like when Solberg spun in Wales once cause Patterson just couldn't keep up with the notes.

Sure it's the co-driver who makes the error. But extremely detailed notes put extra pressure on him.

[stefanvv]

May be it's just an error in the pace notes, I'm not that expert, but shouldn't be "5 left fast INTO 3 left-" be more proper?!?

Also turning the page in that fast section to short slower one is a risk to call the note bit too late?!?

[KKS]

Just saw the onboard from Kris,the co driver said 3 left minus.The speed was obviously not for 3 left minus.Really big shame.
No, you are wrong!

From wrc+ onboards was I heard:
SS07 Novella1:
80 tight flat 5Left opens stop 50 left tightens fast 3L and stop 3L minus into 2R minus

SS10 Novella2:
80 tight flat 5Left opens stop 50 left tightens fast 5L and stop 3L minus into 2R minus

[KKS]

Yeah he repeated the previous note once, before saying the correct one but then they were already in the breaking. Sometimes he does repeat the previous note one more time also on other occasions. But here Meeke could have though that it's the note for next corner.


That said note just how many notes there are for 2 "simple" corners. It's a bit like when Solberg spun in Wales once cause Patterson just couldn't keep up with the notes.

Sure it's the co-driver who makes the error. But extremely detailed notes put extra pressure on him.
There is no pacenotes repeat. Road was 3L and than again 3L- . Two corners one after another

[noel157]

No, you are wrong!

From wrc+ onboards was I heard:
SS07 Novella1:
80 tight flat 5Left opens stop 50 left tightens fast 3L and stop 3L minus into 2R minus

SS10 Novella2:
80 tight flat 5Left opens stop 50 left tightens fast 5L and stop 3L minus into 2R minus

Exactly. Amazes me how much more some people here know than either Meeke or Nagle, who were actually, you know, in the car.

Edit- not directly you Nafpaktos, more those that judge with scant knowledge of the facts and a personal agenda.

[er88]

I hate blame games. If it's been acknowledged between them that Paul made an error on their usual pattern, so be it. No co driver is ever faultless 100% of the time. Meeke has made plenty of mistakes through his driver errors so it's nice to see them being manly enough to get a silly error out of their system.

Just as I said when Loeb retired though, it just reflects badly on Citroen that they couldn't even afford a 3rd car on their home rally for the manufacturers pts...

[nafpaktos]

Exactly. Amazes me how much more some people here know than either Meeke or Nagle, who were actually, you know, in the car.

Dont say <some people> say nafpaktos.I like to be corrected when i an wrong.This is what i understood,i will check it again.

[noel157]

Dont say <some people say> nafpaktos.I like to be corrected when i an wrong.This is what i understood,i will check it again.

I edited before you posted, others I was directing my opinion at, not you.

[noel157]

^ Thanks. Sorry about initial post.

[stefanvv]

No, you are wrong!

From wrc+ onboards was I heard:
SS07 Novella1:
80 tight flat 5Left opens stop 50 left tightens fast 3L and stop 3L minus into 2R minus

SS10 Novella2:
80 tight flat 5Left opens stop 50 left tightens fast 5L and stop 3L minus into 2R minus


Yes, You're right, now on onboards is clear.

[N.O.T]

worthless rally of shit... hope it does not run again.

[dimviii]

and dimviii I really like when you post interesting videos after rally day. Seems Corsica exception to this rule

i have some technical problems with my laptop,and all laptop sevice shops are closed due to Easter.
Yes my laptop broke midrally at stage 9 and no rally 2 for me.
I will be back stronger at Argentina. https://www.petrolheads.gr/images/smilies/smooth/crazy.gif

[dimviii]

worthless rally of shit... hope it does not run again.

why NOT like?


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaNAPacWsAE6veG.jpg

[RS]

Anyone know what happened to Loubet? I know it was mechanical..

[mknight]

No, you are wrong!

From wrc+ onboards was I heard:
SS07 Novella1:
80 tight flat 5Left opens stop 50 left tightens fast 3L and stop 3L minus into 2R minus

SS10 Novella2:
80 tight flat 5Left opens stop 50 left tightens fast 5L and stop 3L minus into 2R minus

Yeah the SS7 onboard explains it. From the SS10 one I though he read it correctly when they were in the corner but the next one is also 3L. "Just" wrong note then.

[EstWRC]

Morning guys...some minutes left and all the drivers once again with hard tyres.

no matter what happens today driver of the rally is Lappi for me, what a performance out of nowhere, didnt expect this at all.

[wwbroe]

Good morning guys, Lappi was for sure very impressive, but all Toyota's made some serious improvements after first couple of stages. Let's see today if Hyundai could come up with same kind of improvement so that we can have a big battle for second.

[dimviii]

good morning guys!
hope to have an amazing final day!

[KKS]

some delay so far

[Eli]

Another Ogier win coming up...however, good morning guys!

[Mk2 RS2000]

Good evening from NZ, lets enjoy what happens over the next few hours

[dimviii]

i will appreciate if some mates inform here about some splits
cant do much with my phone
4 beers to everybody who help

[wwbroe]

About five minutes delay allready?

[wwbroe]

i will appreciate if some mates inform here about some splits
cant do much with my phone
4 beers to everybody who help
For every split? :spin:

[dimviii]

only for wrc,wrc2 ,and first rc4 gyus

[KKS]

Looks like we wait for some late sleeper. C'mon guy, wake-up finally!

[EstWRC]

why the delay?

[Rallyper]

Morning guys. And a special good morning to you Dimviii. We shall do our best. I´m on for the next hour only though.

[EstWRC]

stage is live nooowwwww

[Mirek]

First we have to find splits which work :D

[wwbroe]

Twelve minutes delay?

[EstWRC]

very catalunya like stage the first part

[wwbroe]

Evans half a second faster as mikkelsen at first split

[EstWRC]

Sordo even with Evans at spl1

[EstWRC]

Lappi stopped

[wwbroe]

Neuville fastest at split 1, but no split for Lappi, he has puncture

[jparker]

Any working splits?

[EstWRC]

Tänak 2.7 faster than Neuville in spl1

[wwbroe]

Grreat split for Tanak

[Rallyper]

Lappi moving again after changing a wheel.

[KKS]

Any working splits?
http://webappsdata.wrc.com/web/classification/classification.html?%7B%22event%22:%7B%22eventid%2 2:%22209a7294-32ec-489e-bd86-14488dcc3f14%22%7D%7D

[Rallyper]

Sordo 2,8 faster than Mikk on spl2.

[wwbroe]

Ogier 4,6 down on Tanak

[EstWRC]

Tänak 2.9 faster than Neuville in spl2

[KKS]

and now splits are dead everywhere.

[wwbroe]

Evans fastest sofar at split 4

[wwbroe]

Evans 8,9 up on Mikkelsen split 5

[EstWRC]

Tänak already 7 up on split 4 with Neuville....dontget confused with it please now, its his 4th split but under split 3

[Rallyper]

Not all splits can be seen. But Tanak 10 secs up on Meeke.

[wwbroe]

Great drive sofar by Ott

[EstWRC]

Tänak 8.1 up on Neuville in spl5...no splits for Ogier and Loeb

[Mirek]

Veiby is pushing like hell. Faster than some WRC drivers on split 2!

[KKS]

Sordo fight back at 6split -0.1 to Evans

[wwbroe]

Sordo faster as Evans on last split but only by 0.1 sec

[wwbroe]

Mikkelsen is in

[wwbroe]

Still complaining about the settings of the car, saying they have a lot of homework

[Mirek]

Very fast tyre change from Lappi/Ferm.

[Rallyper]

Evans -12,3 on Mikkelsen finish.

[jparker]

Veiby is pushing like hell. Faster than some WRC drivers on split 2!
It's an uphill section, which makes me believe some WRC people are saving tyres.

[Mirek]

After the gearbox issue Veiby was loosing around 50 seconds to 3rd Andfolfi. He took already 20 on split 3. Let's see if he doesn't overheat brakes and tyres.

[EstWRC]

Sordo 0.3 slower than EVans in the end

[dimviii]

stage stopped ciamin crash blocking the road

[EstWRC]

Lappi saying it was his mistake, went wide and hit a curb, what a shame

[Mirek]

stage stopped ciamin crash blocking the road

This is a massive risk of these huge stages. Someone crashes and 55 km are canceled for many competitors....

[Rallyper]

Tanak 13 sec faster than Neu. Neu -9,5 on Evans.

[EstWRC]

Neuville went wide in the same corner as Lappi and his rim was damaged but no puncture, very very lucky

[wwbroe]

Neuville with broken rim since same place where Lappi had his puncture, saying he had vibrations since

[ESTR]

As it stands now hyundai grab the most of it. 3rd, 4th and 6th. not bad for no speed

[EstWRC]

Ogier 13 seconds slower than Tänak but just managing

[wwbroe]

As it stands now hyundai grab the most of it. 3rd, 4th and 6th. not bad for no speed
Lappi will pass in front of Mikkelsen

[Mirek]

Ciamin's car was removed and the stage continues even for late runners.

[EstWRC]

quite good time from Ott considering he said he wasnt on maximum and the car was understeering more than yesterday