Rally Mexico 2018

[Simmi]

We talk about it many times. They CAN'T show you that was not captured live or when chased by heli.

They managed to go back and find the Evans roll. The first anyone saw of that was Elfyn after it had happened.

[RICARDO75]

Neuville must be happy to clean the road another day...wouldn't it be more fair to put the rally2 guys first on the road?

What a Black Friday for Finnish rally fans...

Let him be first on the road for a few gravel rallies to see how good it is

[Ucci]

Of course. Everybody else is still getting taken to school too. It shouldn't be possible for a guy who retired from full time rally in 2012 to get stage wins in 2018!

Agree...

[Mr.Banan]

I «hated» Loeb when he won every time. Didn't realize that I always missed him until now. So good to have the master back!

[pokey2014]

Really impressed by loeb, the c3 is really capable at the correct hands behind the wheel

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[focus206]

Neuville back first on the road then today.

He did well the first few stages until SSS, it could have looked better at the end of the day.

I hope he, and also his car, keeps it togheter to get some points out of this rally and maybe also power stage points, we'll see.

Shame because he looked like he wasn't losing too much time, but then came engine and steering troubles. Now he can - and should, without risking - only take it easy and bring it home, there can still be some casualties ahead of him.

[AL14]

By ewrc.cz

https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28870787_10156166180489868_7749186591246611310_n.j pg?oh=c0e290b55bbf626dad150b88f422b550&oe=5B3E5FEA

[danon]

Ogier yesterday said:

“If one can do it, it’s him(Loeb)”

That pretty much sums it all up.

[steve.mandzij]

Why is JML starting 2nd?He always pulls the shortest stick...

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[Rallyper]

I «hated» Loeb when he won every time. Didn't realize that I always missed him until now. So good to have the master back!

I didn´t hate Loeb. You shouldn´t hate. ;)
However thought it was booring, when Loeb won all the time.
But agree. Now it´s big fun finding him aged with speed. No wonder, he tried a lot of motorsports since he left.

[KKS]

They managed to go back and find the Evans roll. The first anyone saw of that was Elfyn after it had happened.
Yep... managed to stop a car, physically download onboard videos and put it on a stream... hour or so later. They do that nearly 15 yrs! I told that they can't do it by wireless method

[KKS]

Julian Porter‏ @The_Rally_Guru (https://twitter.com/The_Rally_Guru) 7h
(https://twitter.com/The_Rally_Guru/status/972341457192439809)If you are wondering what this is, it’s not an upside down coffee cup stuck to the roof of the @MotorsportSkoda (https://twitter.com/MotorsportSkoda) Fabia R5, it’s actually the antenna for the satellite telephone.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX5zZOTWsAACD19.jpg

Aerodynamics? No, didn't heard!

[Tarmop]

Really impressed by loeb, the c3 is really capable at the correct hands behind the wheel

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Which was already proven in Rally Mexico 2017...

[SubaruNorway]

Yep... managed to stop a car, physically download onboard videos and put it on a stream... hour or so later. They do that nearly 15 yrs! I told that they can't do it by wireless method

They had the crash just after it happened but i guess they had his feed already loaded when it happened, the video later on was just without the signal dropping out when he rolled

[mknight]

Last time Sordo led WRC rally - Catalunya 2016, so 1 year 7 months ago
Last time Loeb won a stage - Monte 2015, 3 years and 2 months ago.

Back to the future.

--------------

Anyway for championship the current standings are very good.

Loeb here +Breen in Sweden could convince Citroen to run 3 cars or more rallies and positions of the other drivers make the title fight more even.

[RICARDO75]

The real rally will be today with different start orders. I'm curious how it's going to be between Ogier, Meeke, Tänak, Loeb and Sordo.

START ORDER
1. Neuville
2. Latvala
3. Mikkelsen
4. Ogier
5. Meeke
6. Tänak
7. Loeb
8. Sordo

BEFORE SS11
1. Sordo
2. Loeb +7.2
3. Tänak +11.0 (3.8)
4. Meeke +25.0 (14.0)
5. Ogier +30.2 (5.2)
6. Mikkelsen +31.7 (1.5)

[er88]

Only one of the top 3 can win imo. Seb will try and overtake Meeke for 4th

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

I think the reason I praised WRC+ yesterday was that as it was evening in the UK and I had the rally on TV via Chromecast. Great to watch so much live action, plus stage ends and interviews with managers from the SP. The main stages had no gaps and it made for hours of entertainment. Ok they missed some things but I didnt mind and I thought the picture continuity was good given the remote area. Looking forward to a repeat tonight. :)

[EstWRC]

Only one of the top 3 can win imo. Seb will try and overtake Meeke for 4th

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you can never leave Ogier out, just 31 secs behind lead and with a much better starting position for today.

[seb_sh]

you can never leave Ogier out, just 31 secs behind lead and with a much better starting position for today.

I agree, he had good pace starting 2nd on the road. It's between Loeb, Meeke, Tanak and Ogier. I don't think Sordo can keep up with them...

[KKS]

I think we must heard some very interesting story from Ogier that 4th road position it's almost the same as 1st and it's only one reason that he couldn't win

[Norm75]

Only one of the top 3 can win imo. Seb will try and overtake Meeke for 4th

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Who knows, a puncture . . . a spin . . a mechanical . . a car park

[er88]

you can never leave Ogier out, just 31 secs behind lead and with a much better starting position for today.Very true mate, but also got to factor in the 3 cars in between Sordo and Seb and how much of a benefit Sordo will get. However Ogier was fast yesterday so maybe he can indeed do some damage. I'd put my money on Tanak now, but that's because it's amazing to think Loeb could actually win this (which he can) :)

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Dont want to start the discussion again, but the start order rules seem to be more punishing than usual this year. Like in Sweden for Ogier, Neuville is being punished again today for losing time on day one opening the road.

Having said that, he did lose time for other reasons too.

[KKS]

Any tyre info?

[EstWRC]

and its a gooooo!

[greencroft]

I am sure that the irony won't be lost on Dani Sordo. Finally he has a top notch car (arguably the fastest of the current crop) and he has put some distance between himself and the other championship rivals and benefits from good road position for Leg 2. All this and who should pop up in his mirror but his long time win denier Seb Loeb who looks all set to steal another from him.

I think Tanak and Ogier will have a part to play yet. Can't wait to watch the drama unfold later today.

[Essaj]

Neuville lost 1 minute alredy due to water splash

[KKS]

and its a gooooo!
and it's end for Neuville

[er88]

Thought that was it over for Thierry. Now he's back at full speed after being stopped for a while...

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[EstWRC]

dust still hanging there for drivers

[René]

Any tyre info?

Tyre info- Day2 - Morning: All Michelin #WRC drivers with 5 MICHELIN LTX Force S5

[steve.mandzij]

Is it just me or has Mikkelsen been completely unremarkable so far?

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[N.O.T]

do splits work ?

[er88]

Is it just me or has Mikkelsen been completely unremarkable so far?

Sent from my Pixel using TapatalkNot just you.

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[rage82]

do splits work ?No

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[KKS]

Here splits works
http://webappsdata.wrc.com/web/classification/classification.html?%7B%22event%22:%7B%22eventid%2 2:%225e238f67-024a-4941-96f7-d28387b0ff56%22%7D%7D

[dimviii]

do splits work ?

yeap at wrc.com

[EstWRC]

Ogier flying in the splits

[KKS]

Mikkelsen 3rd on a road slower than Latvala who 2nd

[EstWRC]

Tänak missed a chicance, seems the same spot as Neuville, damn!

about a 10 seconds loss s i guess

[KKS]

Wow, Tanak really pushing here!

[EstWRC]

Wow, Tanak really pushing here!

yeah but gave time away with that mistake...we will see in second split


E: and it is +5 for him now, didnt lose as much i expected

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Even I'm feeling sorry for Neuville.

[EstWRC]

Sordo +4 in spl1

[Mr.Banan]

Even I'm feeling sorry for Neuville.

I’m sorry for Mikkelsen. He is tooo slow.

[er88]

Sordo gonna be going backwards today it seems....

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[EstWRC]

Sordo +4 to Loeb in second split

[KKS]

Sordo +4.6 split2

[steve.mandzij]

Mikkelsen 3rd on a road slower than Latvala who 2ndAnd Latvala also dealt with Neuville's dust.

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[Lead]

Not a speed I was expecting from Mikkelsen.

[mknight]

Think Ogier has extra motivation seeing Loeb in front of him on the standings ;)

[EstWRC]

Loeb will lead after this stage and Tänak in second

[N.O.T]

Neuvilles problems do not mean anything... he was too far away to fight for anything since yesterday.

[Eli]

Tanak in trouble??

[Oliverk]

gg for Tänak

[EightGear]

Shit, Tanak!

[mknight]

Loeb will lead after this stage and Tänak in second

You cursed him

[AL14]

No Tanak... :(

[EstWRC]

nooooooooooooooooo

[er88]

Leave Msport to join the village team....


Sorry I caught a bit of 'NOT-itis' there

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[KKS]

And now all Toyotas screw-up
(

[KKS]

He sounds like racing car on a pitlimiter

[KKS]

Loeb 4th split was incredible!

[dimviii]

hope Loeb to dont have problem with Tanaks dust

[er88]

Tanak needs to get the fuck over

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[dimviii]

Loeb -4,3 sec

[EstWRC]

man Tänak needs points to keep championship alive, he must continue

[Fast Eddie WRC]

20bhp... thats more than overheating.

[AL14]

So, how was it? Village people of nobodies? :D

[er88]

No time loss thankfully

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[BigWorm]

If no mechanical failures, I'm quite confident it's going to be a Sebastien 1-2

[seb_sh]

The lesson continues...

[N.O.T]

hope Loeb to dont have problem with Tanaks dust

he lost a little bit at the end... still won the stage and now leads....

LOL

[AL14]

Loeb: "I didn't lose any time".
What a fresh breath of air in the middle of this continuing moaning choir.

[dimviii]

20bhp... thats more than overheating.

its not so much with overheating.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Loeb leads... amazing.

[dimviii]

he lost a little bit at the end... still won the stage and now leads....

LOL

yes but Loeb had no competitionatmostof his years.
Its NOT like last 2 years that everybody is possible to win.

[AL14]

Sordo back off to let Loeb lead like the good old times

[seb_sh]

Sordo back off to let Loeb lead like the good old times

For sure Citroen boss talked to Hyundai boss and they decided to put team orders on Sordo. :P

[AL14]

skilled -> strong -> exceptional -> impressive -> hero -> legend -> Sebastien Loeb

[er88]

Tanak's championship in trouble, but not all is lost as he'll have good road position for the gravel events after Corsica. Least he's rich ;)

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[KKS]

Neuville find a rival - Tanak.

[dimviii]

so what was Tanaks problem? was just engine,or he had an off too?

[seb_sh]

I don't think anyone's championship is over, there are many drivers who can win each rally or have problems themselves. However Ogier's ability to get good points even on "bad" rounds could decide again in the end.

[er88]

so what was Tanaks problem? was just engine,or he had an off too?Had an off but im sure it's not linked to the engine problems. Those are down to the "village team"

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[N.O.T]

so what was Tanaks problem? was just engine,or he had an off too?

village team preparation...

[er88]

The championship will be won by who can get the most points on their bad weekends...

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[doubled1978]

Maybe Tanak is paying the price for not backing off as much as JML and Lappi yesterday....just a thought

[danon]

https://s5.postimg.org/yj78z22dz/Loeb_leading_mexico_2018.jpg

[Tarmop]

Where did it get Latvala and Lappi?:D
Backing off is a complicated art.

[EstWRC]

so what was Tanaks problem? was just engine,or he had an off too?

no off, just missed a junction in the same place as Neuville...he was still going fast after with takign time back but then engine failed at the middle of the stage.

[dimviii]

Maybe Tanak is paying the price for not backing off as much as JML and Lappi yesterday....just a thought

IF Tanak had an off,it was a big mistake to push Loeb.He had to see the bigger picture with not so good rally for Ogier and Neuville.

[steve.mandzij]

https://s5.postimg.org/yj78z22dz/Loeb_leading_mexico_2018.jpgLatvala in the points and 15 minutes behind! :D

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[René]

Loeb Sébastien / Elena Daniel): I tried to have a good wake up because the rhythm you have in the first stage is important for me !

Those who hope for a slower pace later will be disappointed :)

[AnttiL]

Latvala in the points and 15 minutes behind! :D

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Tidemand et al will be ahead of Latvala

[wwbroe]

Tanak still working on the car?

[EstWRC]

Tanak still working on the car?

yeap.

[Mirek]

Julian Porter‏ @The_Rally_Guru (https://twitter.com/The_Rally_Guru) 7h
(https://twitter.com/The_Rally_Guru/status/972341457192439809)If you are wondering what this is, it’s not an upside down coffee cup stuck to the roof of the @MotorsportSkoda (https://twitter.com/MotorsportSkoda) Fabia R5, it’s actually the antenna for the satellite telephone.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX5zZOTWsAACD19.jpg

Aerodynamics? No, didn't heard!

With that Tidemand leads by nearly 4 minutes. Without that he would lead by 2 seconds more...

[HaCo]

Neuville find a rival - Tanak.

He just has to finish... what a terrible rally, but still in 7th. Things could be a lot worser!

[dimviii]

Daniel Elena
"It's not a legend: the old are always more awake than the young people in the morning We drove well and we wanted to leave hard from the first! It's still long ..."

[wwbroe]

yeap.
Hope he will be able to fix it, at least for his championship

[wwbroe]

Tidemand et al will be ahead of Latvala
But iu think JML can catch up with Greensmith and Heller, so pointtaking finish is sure possible.

[EstWRC]

Hope he will be able to fix it, at least for his championship

thats what we all hope right now, he would still get decent points for 6th and with some power points.

[KKS]

With that Tidemand leads by nearly 4 minutes. Without that he would lead by 2 seconds more...
They can use simple sat.phone without this all coffee cups

[EstWRC]

lol https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/972490872779624454

[KKS]

TGR_WRC‏ @TGR_WRC (https://twitter.com/TGR_WRC) 2 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/TGR_WRC/status/972497134233595904)

SS11 Guanajuatito 1 (30.97 km): @OttTanak (https://twitter.com/OttTanak) has had to retire from today following the stage due to a technical issue. #RallyMexico (https://twitter.com/hashtag/RallyMexico?src=hash) #WRC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WRC?src=hash)

[EstWRC]

f..k

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SS11 Guanajuatito 1 (30.97 km): @OttTanak has had to retire from today following the stage due to a technical issue. #RallyMexico #WRC

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ott oot... shame.

[ZequeArgentina]

This is really bad for Ott for Toyota, championship and for us following what was getting a close battle at the front.
Hats off for Loeb once more!

[dimviii]

seems that engine failure.

[focus206]

shame for Tanak :(

[cosmin_sb]

Tanak will be one of the first drivers on the power stage...which will be his strategy?

[mknight]

Tanak will be one of the first drivers on the power stage...which will be his strategy?

A bit early to talk about powerstage but I already fear some massively embarrassing stuff.

Ogier opened a can of worms and FIA didn't react to it yet. Here we might get 3-4 drivers getting deliberate penalties.

[EstWRC]

okay still a long season ahead but still a huge blow for Ott considering the championship.

and it would have been a great battle between him and Loeb for the win today.

[er88]

People wont like this, but i still think Tanak should've stayed at Msport for another year. I said it last season at the time and I'll stick by it. He showed he had the pace to fight Seb in the same car (a car that was proven to be the most complete across the whole year), and if he waited till the end of the year he'd have found out Ford were coming back with more support too. Instead he signed for Toyota in July/August....

The €€€€€ would've still been on offer in 2019 with Ford, Citroen, Hyundai and Toyota all having multiple drivers out of contract. Msport Ford was his best bet for the championship win this year

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[EstWRC]

no, he did right for signing with Toyota.

and he knew about Fords support when he signed with Toyota.


it can also happen with other teams and cars.

[Tarmop]

People wont like this, but i still think Tanak should've stayed at Msport for another year. I said it last season at the time and I'll stick by it. He showed he had the pace to fight Seb in the same car (a car that was proven to be the most complete across the whole year), and if he waited till the end of the year he'd have found out Ford were coming back with more support too. Instead he signed for Toyota in July/August....

The €€€€€ would've still been on offer in 2019 with Ford, Citroen, Hyundai and Toyota all having multiple drivers out of contract. Msport Ford was his best bet for the championship win this year

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You mean like Rally Sweden, where Evans had to get a penalty in order to give Ogier one point? No. 2 is no. 2, especially in crucial situations.

[wwbroe]

A bit early to talk about powerstage but I already fear some massively embarrassing stuff.

Ogier opened a can of worms and FIA didn't react to it yet. Here we might get 3-4 drivers getting deliberate penalties.

I am afraid you might have a point there

[Krigen]

[QUOTE=RICARDO75;1175451]The real rally will be today with different start orders. I'm curious how it's going to be between Ogier, Meeke, Tänak, Loeb and Sordo.

START ORDER
1. Neuville
2. Latvala
3. Mikkelsen
4. Ogier
5. Meeke
6. Tänak
7. Loeb
8. Sordo

Should not Latvala, Lappi and Sunninen start first since they are superrallying ??

[Tarmop]

[QUOTE=RICARDO75;1175451]The real rally will be today with different start orders. I'm curious how it's going to be between Ogier, Meeke, Tänak, Loeb and Sordo.

START ORDER
1. Neuville
2. Latvala
3. Mikkelsen
4. Ogier
5. Meeke
6. Tänak
7. Loeb
8. Sordo

Should not Latvala, Lappi and Sunninen start first since they are superrallying ??

Only for PS.

[wwbroe]

[QUOTE=RICARDO75;1175451]The real rally will be today with different start orders. I'm curious how it's going to be between Ogier, Meeke, Tänak, Loeb and Sordo.

START ORDER
1. Neuville
2. Latvala
3. Mikkelsen
4. Ogier
5. Meeke
6. Tänak
7. Loeb
8. Sordo

Should not Latvala, Lappi and Sunninen start first since they are superrallying ??
No, doing superrally make's you start behind the rally leader, Latvalla start as second because the starting order was made up before two superspecials last night. He wasn't retired yet.

[wwbroe]

Stage 12 about to go live;)

[steve.mandzij]

What a mess it's been for Toyota! So unfortunate!

I'm still very surprised at all you people fearing for Tanak's championship. First because nobody worries for Latvala's championship ( :D) and second because Neuville actually led the championship last year after retiring from the first two rallies of the season. There's plenty of time to make up the lost points.

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

it can also happen with other teams and cars.

But some less than others... ;)

[Krigen]

[QUOTE=Krigen;1175558]
No, doing superrally make's you start behind the rally leader, Latvalla start as second because the starting order was made up before two superspecials last night. He wasn't retired yet.

OK thanks clearing that up. Explain Latvals 2 startposition also, who made me even more confused. But now i know ;)

[dimviii]

Maybe citroen will lead manufacture points if they finish as they are?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Maybe citroen will lead manufacture points if they finish as they are?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX8FFDgVMAAJKx6.jpg

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX8FFDgVMAAJKx6.jpg

how things can change..

[KKS]

Nueville now fastest on stage... seems like Latvala and Mikkelsen just cruising

[KKS]

split1. Meeke drop position to Ogier

[Fast Eddie WRC]

GO-gier ! :)

[KKS]

split1. Meeke drop position to Ogier
just looks like wrong split.

split2 only drop 0.3

[Lead]

Mikkelsen happy?? He is way of the pace this weekend...

[Ucci]

Ogier-looks a perfect time.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX8GG22V4AEsHNV.jpg

[dimviii]

Ogier-looks a perfect time.

Meeke faster though

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke fought back well there !

[er88]

Meeke top pace. Ogier won't like that

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

ALL LIVE down here... :(

Back now. :)

[KKS]

oohhh that top3 more tighter!
Battle battle battle!!!

[er88]

Superb from Meeke. Ogier and Kris closing up a little on Loeb and Sordo

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[cali]

Aside Toyota's problems this has been fantastic event so far!

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[Tarmop]

1-2 to Citroen in not a specific order would be nice, hopefully they can keep their heads calm.

[KKS]

Can't understand... one stage Meeke lost 8.4 sec, and on second gain 10.6sec to Loeb.

[Mintexmemory]

Can't understand... one stage Meeke lost 8.4 sec, and on second gain 10.6sec to Loeb.

Tyres? 3rd stage of the loop will show, even though it’s short

[HaCo]

Great time by Meeke!!!

[Mintexmemory]

IF Tanak had an off,it was a big mistake to push Loeb.He had to see the bigger picture with not so good rally for Ogier and Neuville.
What a biased view - 19 secs from 1st to 4th and no one in front of Ogier is a contender for WDC - please stop the fanboy act it’s embarrassing

[dimviii]

What a biased view - 19 secs from 1st to 4th and no one in front of Ogier is a contender for WDC - please stop the fanboy act it’s embarrassing

ok i understand that you had a teribble nightmare last night,but he us just for 3 rallies.
Your beloved will be champion again.
He just came to have a little fun with the kids.

[KKS]

That Meeke bump this year is even worse

[A FONDO]

[QUOTE=RICARDO75;1175451]The real rally will be today with different start orders. I'm curious how it's going to be between Ogier, Meeke, Tänak, Loeb and Sordo.

START ORDER
1. Neuville
2. Latvala
3. Mikkelsen
4. Ogier
5. Meeke
6. Tänak
7. Loeb
8. Sordo

Should not Latvala, Lappi and Sunninen start first since they are superrallying ??
This is the dumbest thing in current starting order rules. Someone who finished 6th-7th on pace must clean the road the whole other day (and probably the day after too), while useless finns crashing at the very beginning enjoy "fastest" stage times.

[Krigen]

Mikkelsen is little dissapointing this rally i think :(

[KKS]

Did Mikkelsen have some problems with a car? He was very very slow. Last year all talk "give him a car and he win championship only by left hand" and what? he 1 min away from retired rally-grandpa

[N.O.T]

Last year all talk "give him a car and he win championship only by left hand" and what?

who said that apart from Norwegians battling depression ??

[Krigen]

[QUOTE=Krigen;1175558]
This is the dumbest thing in current starting order rules. Someone who finished 6th-7th on pace must clean the road the whole other day (and probably the day after too), while useless finns crashing at the very beginning enjoy "fastest" stage times.

Yes the one who crashed out or by other thing start superrally, should start first.

[KKS]

This is the dumbest thing in current starting order rules. Someone who finished 6th-7th on pace must clean the road the whole other day (and probably the day after too), while useless finns crashing at the very beginning enjoy "fastest" stage times.
You should choose or good starting position or have a chance to fight for overall positions. Same for running order at 1st day. Want perfect road position for next rally? - RETIRE! No? so just commit and comply with the rules

[Lead]

Shame for Mikkelsen..... He had a great starting position for this rally and nothing came out of it. Ok, he is still in the race, but he needed to be at least in Loeb's place.

[KKS]

Meeke... again some thriller

[A FONDO]

Ogier and Meeke equal to the tenth after two and a half hours driving!

[AL14]

Everybody pushing at the front! Love it

[A FONDO]

https://rally-base.com/2018/rally-gunajuato-mexico-2018/?ssGroupId=5

[Krigen]

Good time from Dani :)

[KKS]

Dani fight back! -3.1

[jparker]

ok i understand that you had a teribble nightmare last night,but he us just for 3 rallies.
Your beloved will be champion again.
He just came to have a little fun with the kids.

On the other hand, Ogier had a pleasant dream, winning Mexico 2018 with Citroen.

[drive]

great quote from live tv 'Loeb has 79 wins under his belt, the rest of divers in Mexico rally has 78 between them all - its Loeb v rest' :)

Great fight ahead !

[dimviii]

4 crews inside 15,5 sec midrally.
Brace yourselves.

[mknight]

Did Mikkelsen have some problems with a car? He was very very slow.

Not very good pace yesterday morning, good in the afternoon (same speed as Sordo, faster than Meeke)

Terrible first stage this morning made him loose Ogier and suddenly nothing to fight for, due to retirements current position puts him on 3-4th in champ standings.

[A FONDO]

https://www.redbull.tv/video/AP-1U6BJT4N51W11/super-stage-mexico you can rewind back if you catch it late

[steve.mandzij]

Nice time by Latvala second on the road.

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[Krigen]

Nice time by Latvala second on the road.

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Yes it really is !

[A FONDO]

Meeke https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/972525740519493634

[Alex009]

no, he did right for signing with Toyota.



Yeah, just as you can see from results. Changing the best car for the worst car, right decision? Stupid Ott, money talks.

[Alex009]

This is the dumbest thing in current starting order rules. Someone who finished 6th-7th on pace must clean the road the whole other day (and probably the day after too), while useless finns crashing at the very beginning enjoy "fastest" stage times.

And the useless finns can't still do fast times with the good starting postitions.

[KKS]

Yeah, just as you can see from results. Changing the best car for the worst car, right decision? Stupid Ott, money talks.
Changing from "You never let to win" to "Fight for the championship Ott". And who stupid after that?

[Alex009]

Changing from "You never let to win" to "Fight for the championship Ott". And who stupid after that?

Toyota and championship? Not gonna happen.

[Allez Andruet]

Yeah, just as you can see from results. Changing the best car for the worst car, right decision? Stupid Ott, money talks.

Where's the poll for the dumbest forum post in 2018? I'm quite sure we have the winner.

[Tarmop]

They all have faults, just like all the roadcars also. At least it was an engine, a big reason, not some stupid generator issue this time etc.

[dimviii]

meanwhile Elena is twitting and texting among stages,he thinks he is at kindergarden.lol


Daniel Elena

First loop ended at the head of #Mexique ... and we passed the ES13, the famous feared, we will finally be able to start the rally

We started strong this morning with the scratch in SS11! Then, we did not necessarily fall in rhythm but behind Seb, Kris and Dani attack like crazy

We had come hoping to be in the fight, we will not be disappointed this afternoon ... even if we did not expect to be the "hunted"

[KKS]

SS19 León Street Stage “Cancelled” #RallyMexico (https://twitter.com/hashtag/RallyMexico?src=hash) https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f1f2-1f1fd.png#WRC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WRC?src=hash)

Europe thanks you :) It was too late

[Salist]

Tanak can restart tomorrow?

[dimviii]

Tanak can restart tomorrow?

if his engine is healthy he will.But i heard that his engine made teribble noises when working,and thats a not good sign.

[dimviii]

NOTs new screensaver

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/28959314_10155446131740678_1441055012066164736_o.j pg?oh=e98d2882a0b3476eb893ffc6bf18269c&oe=5B42DDF7

[dimviii]

they dont mention if hewill continue.Maybe later.

SAT 12:18 - TÄNAK RETIREMENT UPDATE:
"The stages seemed to have more grip than yesterday and I was feeling comfortable this morning. Then 7km before the end of SS11 we lost all drive and the turbo had failed. This is the way the sport is. I'm happy that we were competitive on our first gravel event with the team."

[steve.mandzij]

So Bulacia nowhere near impressive. I'd hoped he'd beat Heller. I find it funny too that wrc.com pipped him and Kalle Rovanperä to battle it out for top youngster honors. Kalle is on a completely different level.

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[dimviii]

Sébastien Ogier
"Still trying to push as much as we can. I'm happy, I've done a very clean loop. Being 4th on the road it was a bit better. We managed to catch some seconds so it's still open but it's hard to recover the time lost yesterday. We'll see, 15s is not a lot... but still it's a lot!"

[wrc2017]

if his engine is healthy he will.But i heard that his engine made teribble noises when working,and thats a not good sign.
bits of the turbo in engine

[Salist]

Thanks dimviii.



if his engine is healthy he will.But i heard that his engine made teribble noises when working,and thats a not good sign.

[Franky]

NOTs new screensaver

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/28959314_10155446131740678_1441055012066164736_o.j pg?oh=e98d2882a0b3476eb893ffc6bf18269c&oe=5B42DDF7

Not only screensaver but background picture for all of his devices. Just some flower blossoms are missing.

[mknight]

They all have faults, just like all the roadcars also. At least it was an engine, a big reason, not some stupid generator issue this time etc.

It's actually surprising how little has changed in Mexico since last year.

Citroen had no technical issues and was fast => Citroen has no issues and is fast
Ford had minor overheating issues and was fast => Ford has no overheating issues and is fast
Hyundai had overheating issues and fuel issues and was medium-fast => Hyundai has fuel issues and powersteering (also multiple times last year) and is fast but seemingly not fastest.
Toyota had brake and engine issues and was slow => Toyota has engine issues and is not fastest.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Just watching the Red Bull TV replay of El Brinco - great pictures and to be able to see the different lines the driver's take so clearly in that gravel.

[N.O.T]

and then pro photographers complain like faggots because there are people who give pics for free... useless dogs.

[dimviii]

https://twitter.com/DaniSordo/status/972548099930513408

[A FONDO]

https://i.imgur.com/A9BpUAU.jpg

[T16]

Why was the street stage cancelled? (don't get me wrong... I'm over the moon... crap like this represents rallying in the wrong way completely).

[rallyfiend]

Why was the street stage cancelled? (don't get me wrong... I'm over the moon... crap like this represents rallying in the wrong way completely).

It hasn't been.

It happens after evening service.

[T16]

It hasn't been.

It happens after evening service.

You sure? I thought I heard it on WRR and this was posted earlier... SS19 León Street Stage “Cancelled” #RallyMexico#WRC

Europe thanks you It was too late

[dimviii]

Michelin Motorsport
#Tyre info- Day2 - Afternoon: All Michelin #WRC drivers with 5 MICHELIN LTX Force H4 (Hard) except Mikkelsen with 3 Soft + 2 Hard

#WRC2 Tidemand & Greensmit: 4 Soft + 2 Hard
Rovanperä: 4 Hard + 2 Soft
Huttunen: 3 Hard + 2 Soft

[Lead]

Mikkelsen nothing really to lose so will gumble with softs...

[dimviii]

huge moment for Neuville
https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/972569126085578753

[OldF]

And the useless finns can't still do fast times with the good starting postitions.

Who do you cock sucker think you are to call Finns useless. Maybe you should go and suck your mother’s tits or fuck her in the ass.

[dimviii]

Neuville same stage time with Loebs morning pass.

[AL14]

Who do you cock sucker think you are to call Finns useless. Maybe you should go and suck your mother’s tits or fuck her in the ass.

I wonder why moderators show up here to block threads about donations to a non profit project very much valuable to all the rally movement but if people insult each other than it's ok.

[racerx1979]

I wonder why moderators show up here to block threads about donations to a non profit project very much valuable to all the rally movement but if people insult each other than it's ok.

Probably because people like OldF are mods.

That being said, Finns are the toughest nicest people.

[AL14]

Probably because people like OldF are mods.

That being said, Finns are the toughest nicest people.

lol

[AL14]

Oh what a pity Loeb puncture :(

[T16]

balls

[the sniper]

What a shame, Loeb puncture.

Ogier was really pushing.

[OldF]

I wonder why moderators show up here to block threads about donations to a non profit project very much valuable to all the rally movement but if people insult each other than it's ok.

He, he. It looks the rally forum isn’t moderated by anyone. I just thought to give a disgusting reply to that kid and see what happens. I’ve no problems if I get banned from this forum because the quality has been very low lately.

[EightGear]

Who do you cock sucker think you are to call Finns useless. Maybe you should go and suck your mother’s tits or fuck her in the ass.Wat?

[Eli]

Damn it....was hoping it wouldn't happen. Seems it's Ogier's to win now...

[steve.mandzij]

Nooo! Victory handed to Ogier, just like that.

Also Mikkelsen still unimpressive. Slower than Latvala, who was barely faster than Neuville after his moment, on soft tyres.

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[er88]

Anyone else think Finns are useless?

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[satukata]

Lappi?

[steve.mandzij]

If Sordo retires and Mikkelsen gets a podium I'm going to laugh my ass off.

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[mknight]

If Sordo retires and Mikkelsen gets a podium I'm going to laugh my ass off.


Tbh it looks like exact repeat of how Meeke got 4th on Monte.

[dimviii]

everything changed at stage.

[A FONDO]

If Sordo retires and Mikkelsen gets a podium I'm going to laugh my ass off.

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Everything is possible in oversea rallies.

[Lead]

Ok, so its Ogier Vs Meeke now

[macebig]

Meeke and Ogier 0,7s/k faster than anyone else. If in doubt, flat out!

[jparker]

That woman on the radio sounds really wired.

[Eli]

Think it's win No. 42 for Ogier....don't think Citroen will risk it all for a win, a podium perhaps not what they want, but perhaps what they need.

[satukata]

where is lappi?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Looks like win coming to Ogier, and just as well as Neuville is getting good points through so many dropouts.

[wwbroe]

Where the hell is Lappi???

[eib1]

started the stage few mins ago

[mknight]

Where the hell is Lappi???

Past split 1 now, good time.

On radio they said he starts late but will NOT get time penalty. That could mean many things, for example getting stopped by police on the road section, or held behind in traffic.

[macebig]

Think it's win No. 42 for Ogier....don't think Citroen will risk it all for a win, a podium perhaps not what they want, but perhaps what they need.

No chance Meeke settles for 2nd.

[wrc2017]

Who do you cock sucker think you are to call Finns useless. Maybe you should go and suck your mother’s tits or fuck her in the ass.

mmm...

[OldF]

Wat?

OK, not bad but a mess like the discussion a while ago in the “news and rumour thread” where subjects which was discussed that would have belonged to another thread.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@MSportLtd
�� SS14 @SebOgier - “I was pushing hard in this one. Someone in front hit a dog but I saved the second one and nearly went off for that. But it was worth it because otherwise I would lose my marriage!”


He even saves sick dogs... what a man. ;)

[jparker]

Is Loeb going to keep the pressure? I hope he doesn't give up. Yes, ha can't catch the front runners, but who knows what could happen. Time difference may plat role at the end.

[focus206]

Shame for Loeb and Sordo... I think that unless Meeke picks up a joker by pushing hard without mistakes, Ogier has this. His Fiesta is a tank, so little problems, guess it's thanks to his driving as well.

[wrc2017]

No chance Meeke settles for 2nd.

difficult decision.. if he wants to keep in touch for championship... its a 14pointer

[Eli]

No chance Meeke settles for 2nd.

True but he did say that he pushed to the max, so if Citroen don't want to see a DNF they should just play it safe and finish 2nd!! (& 5th).

[jparker]

True but he did say that he pushed to the max, so if Citroen don't want to see a DNF they should just play it safe and finish 2nd!! (& 5th).
Who cares about points. It's the win that matters. Meeke's win last year is still in the air. On another hand nobody remembers that Ford got the title.

[HarriK]

Huttunen doesn't start to today second leg due to fuel leak in car.

[cali]

He, he. It looks the rally forum isn’t moderated by anyone. I just thought to give a disgusting reply to that kid and see what happens. I’ve no problems if I get banned from this forum because the quality has been very low lately.While I agree that this forum is hardly moderated anymore and you can insult basically anyone here without any consequences I think bringing the quality to even lower is not a good move. Pity. Didn't thought that you could be that kind of a person.

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Via @KiwiWRCfan
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX9PbIzVMAE2OOR.jpg

[dimviii]

big decision for Meeke and citroen now what to do.
Imho he has to settle for 2nd.
too early at championship right now to risk,while all contenders except Ogier have problems.
chance to collect points against to Neuville, Latvala,Tanak.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

On another hand nobody remembers that Ford got the title.

Except you do hahahahahahahahahahaha :D

[dimviii]

@EsapekkaLappi was allowed to start the stage late (without penalty) for safety reasons.

[steve.mandzij]

Why is Bulacia losing so much time?

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[jparker]

Except you do hahahahahahahahahahaha :D
Not really. Miserably collected title, due to other teams playing stupid. It's far away from legendary domination of cars like Lancia, Toyota, Subaru, C4, and Mitsu.
Malcolm just got lucky this time.

[T16]

OK, not bad but a mess like the discussion a while ago in the “news and rumour thread” where subjects which was discussed that would have belonged to another thread.

Like you said the forum doesn't look like it's moderated. With this in mind and given the level your post went to, I think you should 'self moderate' and call it a day mate.
Yeah, this place might not be what it used to be, but there isn't a place for talk like that.

[racerx1979]

Getting silly again. If Meeke pushes and gets ahead Ogier will settle for second. He does not take crazy risks.

The Ford has been extremely reliable. Especially compared to the big budget teams

[dimviii]

Getting silly again. If Meeke pushes and gets ahead Ogier will settle for second. He does not take crazy risks.

The Ford has been extremely reliable. Especially compared to the big budget teams

only if the whole stage is protected with armco barrier at both sides i would give an order to Meeke to attack.
seriously now,given Meekes past,he has to settle for 2nd.

[N.O.T]

the driving is over, see you on the power stage.

[wrc2017]

Like you said the forum doesn't look like it's moderated. With this in mind and given the level your post went to, I think you should 'self moderate' and call it a day mate.
Yeah, this place might not be what it used to be, but there isn't a place for talk like that.
i agree...

[A FONDO]

big decision for Meeke and citroen now what to do.
Imho he has to settle for 2nd.
too early at championship right now to risk,while all contenders except Ogier have problems.
chance to collect points against to Neuville, Latvala,Tanak.

I just hope everyone continues flatout at least until the end of today. Plenty of surprises can still happen.

[dimviii]

SAT 15:44 - SS15: AMENDED START TIME
The Otates 2 stage will now get underway at 1614hrs – 20 minutes later than scheduled. There is heavy traffic on the road section.