[WRC] 86th Rallye Monte-Carlo 2018 (Jan 22-28)

[Mirek]

That's true. I forgot.

[A FONDO]

Luminy13 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo7t0GobTEg
at 5:55 - no place is completely safe during Monte!

[er88]

Who knows, maybe you're right, but I still got amazed with all the talk around Citroen. Honestly, I didn’t hear Meeke saying anything about the car. SS1 mistake took him any podium chances and he was a quiet 5th (far from Lappi ahead and Bouffier behind) till Lappi’s issue; after it, a little off (SS12) and a probable spin on the last stage (Meeke mentioned engine stalled on a hairpin) made him not only loosing P4 but also having Evans much closer. Is all this on the car account?Meeke got interviewed in regroup at the end of the day by Julian Porter, and said they really struggle on the slippery and trucky conditions. Says he should feel more comfortable in the car tomorrow as those roads are a lot more typical of a normal tarmac event, where the C3 has gone well in the past in drier conditions. Julian Porter then asked if there's any positives that the car is giving him up to now or whether he is just completely lost on the slippy conditions, and Meeke just replied that they've struggled all weekend and he'll see what they can do tomorrow.

If they can somehow get out of Monte with a 4th/5th place despite being miles off the pace, I'm sure they'd be pretty pleased with the result at least. Performnace wise they still have the same issues but if I'm correct, most of the 2018 upgrades aren't implemented till Mexico or after Mexico...

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[Sulland]

I thought Citroen had addressed the problems in the last months, but Loeb said in his interview today that the C3 is only good on dry tarmac and was hard to drive on gravel. He didnt sound confident of any success .

What chance does Meeke have...

I would like to see the 2018 C3 in sweden and mexico before we can see if they have made the C3 better.
I am afraid that Loeb is right, and that the C3 issues on the loose are fundamental, and not easy to fix.

Not sure if PSA sport have pinpointed the issues, and have a plan, or if they have given up, and comes with new car in 19.

[Rally Power]

Meeke got interviewed in regroup at the end of the day by Julian Porter, and said they really struggle on the slippery and trucky conditions.

I missed that one, but haven’t all drivers on this MC been saying the same? Maybe the car isn't totally fixed yet (like you said, major upgrades will appear on Mexico) but I believe SS1 setback is the main reason for his low confidence (just like in Germany). Still, it’d be great to see him proving otherwise, by beating Lappi and Evans tomorrow. Fingers crossed!

[Eli]

I would like to see the 2018 C3 in sweden and mexico before we can see if they have made the C3 better.
I am afraid that Loeb is right, and that the C3 issues on the loose are fundamental, and not easy to fix.

Not sure if PSA sport have pinpointed the issues, and have a plan, or if they have given up, and comes with new car in 19.

Imho if they've given up, I don't think they would bother with spending extra money on developing a new car for 2019, I think it was mentioned here somewhere that the 2018 budget for the team is already tighter than it was in 2017 so....fingers crossed we will see the 2 chevrons symbol next year!!

[A FONDO]

I would like to see the 2018 C3 in sweden and mexico before we can see if they have made the C3 better.
I am afraid that Loeb is right, and that the C3 issues on the loose are fundamental, and not easy to fix.

Not sure if PSA sport have pinpointed the issues, and have a plan, or if they have given up, and comes with new car in 19.


Tell you in advance, they've always been poor in Sweden. Loeb's input in Mexico should reveal (at least in their private telemetry) whether the problem is in the car or in Ireland. Would probably be useful to adopt Sordo to help develop the car. Solution is obvious - design new chassis based on Peugeot. But it needs a big budget.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke said at one stage end he felt "completely lost"... I think that sums up him and Citroen.

[er88]

I missed that one, but haven’t all drivers been saying the same? Maybe the car isn't totally fixed yet (like you said, major upgrades will appear on Mexico) but I believe SS1 setback is the main reason for his low confidence (just like in Germany). Still, it’d be great to see him proving otherwise, by beating Lappi and Evans tomorrow. Fingers crossed!The interview is around the 14minute mark in the last studio section of the All Live coverage today, if you want to watch it mate. He still sounded downbeat what with being so far off the pace, and the complaints about struggling in the tricky conditions is just more of the same that we've heard over and over from Meeke, Mikkelsen and Loeb with the car . But the fact both Meeke and Nagle have said they think the car should perform much better tomorrow is a good sign. Should mean we will see a good battle for that 4th place and hopefully Meeke, Lappi and Evans all keep it on the road.

If Meeke can get out of here with a 4th or 5th place and some power stage pts (and do the same in Sweden even if they struggle there again too), at least it'd give him a better platform to build on for the season ahead than having 0pts after two events like last year.

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[danon]

Poor Meek at 4:10... the end is near!

The champ dream is about to fade away soon.
For good!

https://youtu.be/7pA1T1jhaDQ?t=250

[macebig]

PSA, think about bringing Opel back.

[mknight]

I get that on snow/slush like today C3 can struggle.

But whole yesterday it was either dry or just wet from rain.

During 2017 Deutschland rally on friday it was seemingly as much or more slippery and treacherous. A C3 was on 2nd place and Meeke and Breen both lost a bit over a minute during the friday leg (about same amount of time Meeke lost yesterday).

[dimviii]

powerslides https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmi8vLXIrpQ

same corners as at redbull live,but this guy choosed better point to record his video.You can see clearer and all the sequence of corners.

[dimviii]

https://scontent.fbru3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/27173923_1180585235405093_4161743969303579904_o.jp g?oh=fe16417222a9103b153ee11a2540aa19&oe=5AD85BBF

[danon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4Akfcd1JRs

[EstWRC]

awesome ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G83KYl5O-Q

[dimviii]

awesome ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G83KYl5O-Q

Τanak and Evans excellent drives.

[PLuto]

Start list to the last leg - https://rally-base.com/2018/rallye-monte-carlo-2018/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=861

[EstWRC]

#Tyre info - Day 4
Latvala/Lappi/Tanak/Meeke/Ogier/Evans: 2 Michelin Pilot Alpin A4 studded + 2 Michelin Pilot Sport Super Soft (SS6) + 2 Michelin Pilot Sport Soft (S6)
Bouffier: 3SS6 + 3S6
Neuville/Breen: 4S6 + 2SS6
Mikkelsen: 5S6
#WRC #RallyeMonteCarlo

[AnttiL]

Start list to the last leg - https://rally-base.com/2018/rallye-monte-carlo-2018/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=861

Rovanperä isn't driving anymore with a Latvian license.

[AnttiL]

#Tyre info - Day 4
Latvala/Lappi/Tanak/Meeke/Ogier/Evans: 2 Michelin Pilot Alpin A4 studded + 2 Michelin Pilot Sport Super Soft (SS6) + 2 Michelin Pilot Sport Soft (S6)
Bouffier: 3SS6 + 3S6
Neuville/Breen: 4S6 + 2SS6
Mikkelsen: 5S6
#WRC #RallyeMonteCarlo

It's gonna be another interesting day with supposedly icy roads on the first run

[AnttiL]

awesome ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G83KYl5O-Q

It's just crazy to see all the people on the bank...everyone watching the cars through their cellphones.

[fredfush]

Rovanperä isn't driving anymore with a Latvian license.

For WRC the nationality is based on the passport. For all other International evets it goes on the country issuing the licence.

[Duvel]

It's just crazy to see all the people on the bank...everyone watching the cars through their cellphones.

When i am standing on stages, i sometimes feel like i dont fit in,.. al the others arefilming or taking photos.

[mknight]

#Tyre info - Day 4
Latvala/Lappi/Tanak/Meeke/Ogier/Evans: 2 Michelin Pilot Alpin A4 studded + 2 Michelin Pilot Sport Super Soft (SS6) + 2 Michelin Pilot Sport Soft (S6)
Bouffier: 3SS6 + 3S6
Neuville/Breen: 4S6 + 2SS6
Mikkelsen: 5S6
#WRC #RallyeMonteCarlo

Is this for all stages today or do they have tire-fitting before PS?

The full slick choices of Nevuille, Breen and Mikkelsen would make most sense if there were no more tire changes allowed. They just cruise trough the first passes and should be unbeatable on power stage.

EDIT:http://acm.mc/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/RAMC-2018-ITINERAIREF-VERSION-5.pdf

doesn't look like any more tire changes.

[PLuto]

What is it? Cars are on the Turini stage, but suddenly no live, no commentary, only rotating map.

[Googol]

Next stage starts soon and it's a TV stage. Though it is quite close, so I would have assumed that they could have shown Turini at least for another 5-10 minutes.

[Integrale]

What is it? Cars are on the Turini stage, but suddenly no live, no commentary, only rotating map.

This is mad, they're having breakfast?

[Eli]

What is it? Cars are on the Turini stage, but suddenly no live, no commentary, only rotating map.

......And Becks has returned to WRC Radio.

[Bartek]

This is a joke...

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUnCREDX0AE5ZBr.jpg

[er88]

Surely they could have shown the live feed untill ready to start the live tv stage? Who cares if we have to go without commentators for 10-15mins, I'm sure that'd please most folk in fact

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[Watson]

They could bloody well have shown Tanak and Ogier first.

Or at least insert the splits in that stupid rotating map.

[HaCo]

TN just halved his distance behind Evans.

[GravelBen]

What is it? Cars are on the Turini stage, but suddenly no live, no commentary, only rotating map.

They said they were taking a short break but didn't say why, maybe they're having problems again like when it cut out totally yesteday.

[Bartek]

I'm sorry but people who are responsible for this live coverage are idiots...

[RM98]

This lack of explanations from their side amazes me.

[rallyfiend]

SS15 is a LIve TV stage.

They are probably just preparing and positioning all their resources for that.

[Eli]

I'm sorry but people who are responsible for this live coverage are idiots...

You don't need to be sorry, they need to be sorry, this isn't something which comes for free. Furious!!!

[HaCo]

I cannot find spilts anymore :(

[RM98]

SS15 is a LIve TV stage.

They are probably just preparing and positioning all their resources for that.

But I purchased All Live to see the stages that I can't see on TV...

[Bartek]

SS15 is a LIve TV stage.

They are probably just preparing and positioning all their resources for that.

Don't get me wrong but we are not talking about some youtubers with 5 cameras and French pre-paids to show live in facebook

[KKS]

Agrrr and I oversleep start of the stage. Local drama for me too :D

[Eli]

This is a joke, honestly, should have just let Red-Bull TV do the work...would have been wayyyy better.

[Bartek]

Meeke and Lappi are in trouble?

[rallyfiend]

This is a joke, honestly, should have just let Red-Bull TV do the work...would have been wayyyy better.

You know that the Red Bull TV is just made by the same people as all the other TV, right?

[PLuto]

Meeke and Lappi are in trouble?

No. Only results system again in trouble...

[Lead]

Meeke and Lappi are in trouble?

Lappi just set 2nd time, +5sec behind Neuville

[rallyfiend]

Don't get me wrong but we are not talking about some youtubers with 5 cameras and French pre-paids to show live in facebook

Then they're getting screwed by the organisers itinerary with overlapping stages...

[EstWRC]

oh Ogier, what a man

[Bartek]

Seb slept well this night :)

[Eli]

You know that the Red Bull TV is just made by the same people as all the other TV, right?

Yes but the commentators are people I can listen to all weekend.....

[KKS]

This is a joke, honestly, should have just let Red-Bull TV do the work...would have been wayyyy better.
redbull do all wrc stuff and you watch it

[KKS]

Mikkelsen +1.39 ????

[seb_sh]

OH FFS, this is just infuriating! Instead of showing a tricky stage with snow and ice we see the map, and then what's the first thing i hear when they're back? Desborough talking shit again! AAARGH Get your act together!

[RM98]

Mikkelsen +1.39 ????

Probably saving tyres for the Power Stage

[rp]

Mikkelsen +1.39 ????

He is just waiting the PowerStage...

[EstWRC]

he is saving his tyres for power stage

[Eli]

redbull do all wrc stuff and you watch it

Listen, what I'm trying to say is that I would prefer hearing Mike Chen & Co. instead of Jon Desborough......

[Ucci]

I can't belive...the same story as yesterday. Ogier makes max attack, beats all other, now he has a safe margin.
Game over for Tanak.

[RM98]

OH FFS, this is just infuriating! Instead of showing a tricky stage with snow and ice we see the map, and then what's the first thing i hear when they're back? Desborough talking shit again! AAARGH Get your act together!

They just don't care about us. When it's a live TV stage it's usually good with no glitches, but I bought All Live to see the stages that I can't see on TV...

[KKS]

Listen, what I'm trying to say is that I would prefer hearing Mike Chen & Co. instead of Jon Desborough......
Chen is same "out-rally" commentator as new chick and horrible-Jon. Don't think that a good change

[KKS]

Stage looks totally dry and Neuville tyre choice was perfect. Other should put a studded tyre from boot, and Neuville has a slick

[Mirek]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUnCREDX0AE5ZBr.jpg

Where are the crowds which always used to be there?

[itix]

Will this be another Argentina where Neuville takes 6th from Evans on the last stage?

[ik1911]

No, Neuville will take 5th from Meeke on last stage!

[KKS]

Meeke finally wake-up so it's difficult to say

[HaCo]

It will be hard, but great battle!

[itix]

The Toyota of Latvala is always hunting at stage end.

The others have stable idle and Latvalas is hunting up and down all the time.

[HaCo]

The Toyota of Latvala is always hunting at stage end.

The others have stable idle and Latvalas is hunting up and down all the time.

I hope for him his bad luck devil from last year is gone...

[Duvel]

So still fight on for place 4 between Lappi and Meeke. And whit Neuville hunting Evans there could stil be some changes than.

[ToyotaFan95]

Tänak taking it very safely. Wise move, no need to risk guaranteed 18 points at this stage of the series.

[seb_sh]

Tänak taking it very safely. Wise move, no need to risk guaranteed 18 points at this stage of the series.

Indeed, very mature, there are few chances to beat Ogier on this rally by pushing and much more chances to make a mistake so it's a good strategy.

[KKS]

And first Top3 time for Meeke of rally

[Eli]

How come the Col de Turini isn't the P.S?

[Watson]

And first Top3 time for Meeke of rally

Once almost everybody is just keen on cruising home safely or saving tyres for the power stage.

[A FONDO]

same corners as at redbull live,but this guy choosed better point to record his video.You can see clearer and all the sequence of corners.
A single guy with portable camera is more useful than 3 professional operators with university diplomas, salaries, accomodation expenditures, professional cameras and microphones for thousands of euros each, mounting racks and a truck to transport all of this.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Amazing job by Ogier on the first stage today, showing again who's boss on Monte.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@RallyTrave!
Ice causing havoc with some of the later runners here on the #coldeturini at least 4 360 spins and one in the snow bank so far!

[KKS]

Once almost everybody is just keen on cruising home safely or saving tyres for the power stage.
u really think that? He just cruising whole rally cuz he driving shity Citroen. He can't score power stage win

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@RallyTravel
Actually make that 3 cars in the snow bank now! Crowd loving it as the amateur crews give it the maximum 😀👍

[Tarmop]

u really think that? He just cruising whole rally cuz he driving shity Citroen. He can't score power stage win

Yes, he is battleing with the car, which you could see from his face, whereas others (except Mikkelsen and Neuville pushing and Evans surviving) seem to play it safe.

[dimviii]

A single guy with portable camera is more useful than 3 professional operators with university diplomas, salaries, accomodation expenditures, professional cameras and microphones for thousands of euros each, mounting racks and a truck to transport all of this.

as you saw,there is a huge difference when you do something you love.

[T16]

u really think that? He just cruising whole rally cuz he driving shity Citroen. He can't score power stage win

He means the others are saving tyres for the PS, hence why Meeke had a chance to win the stage.

[A FONDO]

Matteo Raggi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWubeiPLqF8

[lnvs]

A single guy with portable camera is more useful than 3 professional operators with university diplomas, salaries, accomodation expenditures, professional cameras and microphones for thousands of euros each, mounting racks and a truck to transport all of this.Well you are barking up the wrong tree here. That Single guy is shooting rallying and professionals are shooting sponsor banners while also trying to include some cars there. :D

[RS]

How come the Col de Turini isn't the P.S?

This.

Just watching SS15, bad choice for power stage. Not spectacular, no excitement or atmosphere.

[EstWRC]

agreed, so boring stage for PS

[EstWRC]

sooooo slippy for Breen

[Eli]

Bouffier stuck in the snow....

[HaCo]

Hope he doesn't block anyone

[EstWRC]

one tricky corner that, Neuville lucky!

[Eli]

Very Lucky!!

[itix]

Pretty sure there will be more drivers that haven't been able to see this onboard get caught out at that corner.

[KKS]

Lappi +9 to Meeke on split1

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Pleasure just to have one commentator (Porter) and only talking about the stage, not nonsense with Desborough.

[KKS]

and +13 Lappi at 2nd psplit

[HaCo]

Will be hard for TN to catch Evans!

[Simmi]

This is great footage coming off the Col. Nice passion too from Julian.

[HaCo]

Meeke lost quite some time!

[itix]

What did I say? hahahahaha

[dimviii]

about 20 sanglieeeerrrrsss at this video.Cant stop laughing with this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnAlKgBIeBQ

[BigWorm]

Oi oi oi Lappi got away at Bouffier's corner but should be safe in fourth now

[dimviii]

live here too
https://www.facebook.com/FMPHU/videos/vb.366552146738947/1739211936139621/?type=3&theater

[RS]

agreed, so boring stage for PS

Got bored so played with my iPad instead..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans can catch Meeke now... only 1.2s down.

[KKS]

Meeke was ahead on splits by 13 sec and lost 5sec to Lappi. And Lappi have a snowbank excursion. HOW IT'S POSSIBLE?

[Lead]

Meeke was ahead on splits by 13 sec and lost 5sec to Lappi. And Lappi have a snowbank excursion. HOW IT'S POSSIBLE?

There are glitches in timing system all weekend.

[lnvs]

It's long section from split2 to finish. 5mins in faster roads. Probably Meeke just took it too safe.

[Simmi]

about 20 sanglieeeerrrrsss at this video.Cant stop laughing with this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnAlKgBIeBQ

Hero of the rally for me is this guy hahahaha!

[EightGear]

Neuville may take 5th.

[KKS]

It will be three way battle for that Meeke position.

[PLuto]

Rovanperä isn't driving anymore with a Latvian license.

I am not sure about it. WRC has only exception in the rally world, where isnt showed flag on the car by licence, but by nationality of the driver. This exception started few years ago, when some driver has lost his "national" licence for some reasons and was starting under some exotic one. And instead to have exotic flag on car, they pushed for change of regulations there (and nobody changed it back since that time).

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It will be three way battle for that Meeke position.

Evans or Neuville deserve it more.

[ESTR]

It's possible but remember that Neuville must take around 8 seconds or more to get there. Evans just 2 to take his place. And on previous run Meeke was quite fast only 4 secs behind Neuville and faster of Evans. We will see. Obviously there are Neuville and Mikkelsen who will push for bonus points. And there are Evans, maybe Meeke and just maybe Latvala.. Others will not bother I think, It's not worth it.

[Watson]

Pleasure just to have one commentator (Porter) and only talking about the stage, not nonsense with Desborough.

Haha funny I think I prefer Desborough over Porter. Porter's rhetoric is way worse imo. He keeps repeating the same points ad nauseam, stammers, can't find the correct ends of sentences, misses a lot and then goes on to wildly speculate about the obvious and plainly, simply does talk quite a lot of bollocks.

[EstWRC]

Evans or Neuville deserve it more.

how?

[KKS]

There are glitches in timing system all weekend.
It should be useful two compare onboards at wrc+

[BigWorm]

I think Evans will snatch the position from Meeke. Neuville needs more than 8 seconds on both Meeke and Evans, the last stage is dry so it will take a spin from both to make that possible. The gap is too much but he gave it a good go.

[HaCo]

I think Evans will snatch the position from Meeke. Neuville needs more than 8 seconds on both Meeke and Evans, the last stage is dry so it will take a spin from both to make that possible. The gap is too much but he gave it a good go.

Think so too, will be very hard for TN.

[KKS]

they have TFZ before SS16?

[PLuto]

they have TFZ before SS16?

No. Last TFZ was today in the morning.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

how?

Evans puncture and Neuville snow bank where few fans cost them time. Both have won stages. Meeke just slow throughout.

[PLuto]

Starting order: 1 Mikkelsen, 2 De Mevius, 3 Kopecký, 4 Breen, 5 Bouffier, 6 Neuville, 7 Evans, 8 Meeke, 9 Lappi, 10 Latvala, 11 Tänak, 12 Ogier

[Mirek]

Evans puncture and Neuville snow bank where few fans cost them time. Both have won stages. Meeke just slow throughout.

Don't You think that driving mistakes are part of the game?

[dimviii]

Gary Boyd
STAT - FLASH
Seb Ogier has now lead for more stages than he did for entire 2017 #WRC season

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Haha funny I think I prefer Desborough over Porter. Porter's rhetoric is way worse imo. He keeps repeating the same points ad nauseam, stammers, can't find the correct ends of sentences, misses a lot and then goes on to wildly speculate about the obvious and plainly, simply does talk quite a lot of bollocks.

At least he talks about the stage in view and notices things.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Don't You think that driving mistakes are part of the game?

Dont you think speed is ?

[steve.mandzij]

Well, maybe I could have slept past this one. Looks like apart from Evans, Meeke and Neuville's gaps there doesn't seem to be any exciting prospects for the PS. Everybody going safe too.

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[Eli]

Why is Mikkelsen first? TV b.s again?

[PLuto]

Why is Mikkelsen first? TV b.s again?

Like usually, for powerstage, special starting order...

[Mirek]

Dont you think speed is ?

Exactly. It is PART of the game. You can't take it alone.

[L555MAT]

What a road!

[eib1]

pointless discussion, all three had their moments and needed spectators help
5th deserves the one who finishes in 5th

[jparker]

Is it possible timing system to be manipulated, misconfigured, or faulty? Is there any parallel timing in place for verification?

[EstWRC]

Mikkelsen 20 secs faster than Neuville in the morning

[PLuto]

Is it possible timing system to be manipulated, misconfigured, or faulty? Is there any parallel timing in place for verification?

This is too difficult and complex topic to discuss. For sure the timing system is as best as possible. But it is always only about people or technology, so faults are possible. And it is about people and mechanism to prevent this faults as much as possible or find them as soon as possible...

[KKS]

What a road!
we must use it in RBR ... did we?

[KKS]

Is it possible timing system to be manipulated, misconfigured, or faulty? Is there any parallel timing in place for verification?
at SS15 I saw how time was corrected online

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Exactly. It is PART of the game. You can't take it alone.

I'd rather the fastest be rewarded. Everyone has made similar mistakes here and its hard on those who have suffered more for theirs.

[A FONDO]

gab https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbxGcZkLOHk

[jparker]

Neville's time this morning was 10.34.
Mikkelsen now 10.11

[BigWorm]

I'd rather the fastest be rewarded. Everyone has made similar mistakes here and its hard on those who have suffered more for theirs.

But that's Monte for you. Sometimes it's plain survival and the faster drivers might suffer.

[HaCo]

That’s a strong time, 2sec faster than Mikkelsen who preserved his tires.

[EstWRC]

Tänak entertaining people on the road section https://www.instagram.com/p/BedoNJynhQK/

[HaCo]

Yes!!!!!

[BigWorm]

Neuville got Evans??

[EstWRC]

Neuville is pain in the ass for Evans, lol

[jparker]

This is too difficult and complex topic to discuss. For sure the timing system is as best as possible. But it is always only about people or technology, so faults are possible. And it is about people and mechanism to prevent this faults as much as possible or find them as soon as possible...
Well, not the answer I was expecting, but I guess teams are doing their own timing and compare with official one.

[itix]

What did I say part 2! Hahaha

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans poor there... didnt expect that.

[HaCo]

Feel sorry for Evans, what a great guy and driver!
Now waiting for Meeke

[HaCo]

Wow Meeke, great splits

[N.O.T]

good drive by the potato dog... easy work of the brit.

[dimviii]

Meeke -2,3 sec

[EstWRC]

yessss, Meeeekeeeee

[Mintexmemory]

At least Evans has shown he is more than a DMack specialist. On another tack the fastest may not be rewarded on Monte but the cleverest usually is!

[BigWorm]

Meeke needed that.

[Simmi]

Oooush some time by Meeke. On dry tar that C3 is still on rails.

[seb_sh]

And Neuville snatches the place from Evans on the last stage again.

[itix]

Meeke! Have you finally grown up and learned how to win a championship?
Best regards, the world's most disappointed Meeke fan.

[HaCo]

Great drive by Meeke, lappi off!!!!

[Mintexmemory]

Lappi has no room for error! Edit... pressure?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke very unhappy with the car still.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Kris really venting his frustration at the stage end interview! Then he refused to clarify what he said to Colin.

[HaCo]

He might loose 3 places here

[EstWRC]

damn Lappi!

[KKS]

And again Mirek theory of Lappi right-hand corners - WORK!

[N.O.T]

Neuville is proud of you Lappi... well done.

[Simmi]

Big lesson there for Lappi. Three spots that's hard on the final stage.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Disaster for Lappi, what a shame.

[HaCo]

Power stage is great invention!

[Mirek]

And again Mirek theory of Lappi right-hand corners - WORK!

And I haven't even watched it...

[BigWorm]

12+5 is still a decent amount of points for Meeke.

Shame for Lappi.

[ZequeArgentina]

What a costly mistake for Lappi!! 3 positions for one spin!

[dimviii]

SUN 13:01 - SS17: MEEKE
Quickest so far, 2.3sec up on Neuville. "A horrendous weekend for us. An absolute nightmare. I can't get a feeling with the car. When its good we have to put everything on the line - it's not good enough."

[Mintexmemory]

4th place after such a struggle may have taught Kris something - I hope so.

[dimviii]

Evans lost a place from Neuville,and after few minutes regained the position due to Lappis mistake.

[itix]

And again Mirek theory of Lappi right-hand corners - WORK!Technically he lost it in the left hander and got out of line for the right hander. Feel really sorry for him, he deserved better.

[JUF]

Tänak off?

[Rally Hokkaido]

SUN 13:01 - SS17: MEEKE
Quickest so far, 2.3sec up on Neuville. "A horrendous weekend for us. An absolute nightmare. I can't get a feeling with the car. When its good we have to put everything on the line - it's not good enough." Then Meeke said something like "big changes needed". Colin then asked him "with the car? with the team? etc?".....he didn't get an answer!

[PLuto]

Tänak off?

No, why?

[JUF]

No, why?
Was reported by someone on Twitter, obviously fake news... :rolleyes:

[HaCo]

Great start of the season for Toyota, Tanak and Latvala!

[Ucci]

Think so too, will be very hard for TN.
And TN did it....

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans lost a place from Neuville,and after few minutes regained the position due to Lappis mistake.

Still lost points he was trying to stop Neuville taking.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Grest job Tanak.

[N.O.T]

Tommi is still triggered by Lappi pulling off a neuville... lol

[HaCo]

He didn’t catch Meeke, but can be satisfied anyway:-)

[itix]

They hate being gravel crew for Ott? I'd take that job in a heartbeat hahahaha

(not sure he was serious though)

[N.O.T]

I think its the first time in years that in monte all the championship contenders get solid points.... Great start for the season.

[dimviii]

Ogier + 8,1 sec.

congrats!

[Mirek]

Now when I watch the road I remmeber I drove it when it was already closed for public in 2009. It was recersed and joined with today's Turini into one massive stage. For me this part which is now PS was the toughest part of the whole combo.

[EstWRC]

and Ogier is Tänaks pain in the ass, steals 1 power stage point from him

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mega smart rally driver... great job Ogier !

[Mintexmemory]

Champ continues to be a champ - ominous for the rest

[BigWorm]

Ogier 26
Tänak 18
Latvala 17
Meeke 17
Neuville 14
Evans 8

Great start to the season indeed.

[AL14]

Sanglier guy shouting all the way in the background.

EDIT: LOL it was just his youtube video that started playing on another tab of my browserwhen I was watching WRC live. :D :D

[AndyRAC]

So 5 Monte wins for Ogier... Desborough et al have forgotten 2009....which makes it 6.....

[itix]

Ogier 26
Tänak 18
Latvala 17
Meeke 17
Neuville 14
Evans 10

Great start to the season indeed.Meeke actually scores the same being one place down. Impressive!

[EstWRC]

Ogier 26
Tänak 18
Latvala 17
Meeke 17
Neuville 14
Evans 8

Great start to the season indeed.

Meeke 1 point behind Tänak....i hope Meeke learned that you dont have to drive your wheels off all the time

[BigWorm]

Meeke actually scores the same being one place down. Impressive!

That's what the new Power stage does, spices up the standings.

[A FONDO]

Pierre MAxicorde https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpmMJ1d1HRo

[Mirek]

Jan Kopecký and Pavel Dresler won WRC2 by nearly 15 minutes and RC2 by more than 5 minutes...

[dupanton]

Ogier 26
Tanak 18
Latvala 17
Meeke 17
Neuville 14
Evans 8
Lappi 6
Bouffier 4
Mikkelsen 3
Breen 2
Kopecky 1

Ford 33
Toyota 33
Citroën 18
Hyundai 14

[EstWRC]

Great to see estonian flags!

[ESTR]

Neuville again snatches Evans by a little. He is probably pissed off.

[EightGear]

That was quite an eventful powerstage.

[N.O.T]

Maybe i have misjudged tommis skills as a team manager... maybe

great Job.

[itix]

What a start for the useless Finnish village team though...
They have to be pleased with that from a team perspective.

[N.O.T]

Ogier 26
Tanak 18
Latvala 17
Meeke 17
Neuville 14
Evans 8
Lappi 6
Bouffier 4
Mikkelsen 3
Breen 2
Kopecky 1

Ford 33
Toyota 33
Citroën 18
Hyundai 14

perfect start of the season... with a small exception of mikkelsen, it would be nice if he got good points as well.

[steve.mandzij]

What a masterful drive from Ogier! Truly spot on from start to finish.

Also, very very exciting weekend for the Village Team!

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[dupanton]

NOT are you sick? You are like all positive and things :o

[RS]

Jan Kopecký and Pavel Dresler won WRC2 by nearly 15 minutes and RC2 by more than 5 minutes...

Back to the Czech Championship for him then..

[eddy707]

Crazy to think that Meeke got 17 points from this rally while being pretty much nowhere on the pace of everyone else except the final stage.
And as N.O.T pointed out, all the big names(except Mikkelsen) got solid points from this rally. Nice start for the season :)

[N.O.T]

NOT are you sick? You are like all positive and things :o

Its normal at the start of the season especially when even the sick dogs did not made a mess of themselves.

[cali]

They hate being gravel crew for Ott? I'd take that job in a heartbeat hahahaha

(not sure he was serious though)Martin Kangur is quite good and fast driver himself so being a gravel crew is not what he really wants...

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[macebig]

Better to take 17 points and be disappointed than take 0 and be positive like Meeke was last year after Monte...

[Mirek]

Crazy to think that Meeke got 17 points from this rally while being pretty much nowhere on the pace of everyone else except the final stage.
And as N.O.T pointed out, all the big names(except Mikkelsen) got solid points from this rally. Nice start for the season :)

It's good to note that the PS is actually pretty bumpy stage therefore I would say the problems with C3 are not that much related to the suspension (at least tarmac one) but rather to the diff setup or geometry.

[itix]

NOT are you sick? You are like all positive and things :oShhhh...

[itix]

It's good to note that the PS is actually pretty bumpy stage therefore I would say the problems with C3 are not that much related to the suspension (at least tarmac one) but rather to the diff setup or geometry.That's a good point actually... Maybe torque split issue still or just diff controller?
Something mechanical?

[Simmi]

Martin Kangur is quite good and fast driver hinself so beaing a gravel crew is not what he really wants...

I think Ott probably was referring to the fact that the gravel crew have a very stressful and pressurized job on the Monte.

[RS]

I think its the first time in years that in monte all the championship contenders get solid points.... Great start for the season.

For the championship yes, but for me this wasn’t an epic Monte. Early problems of the Hyundai’s meant there wasn’t a battle at the front and WRC2 turned to shit after one day too.

[PLuto]

Fastest driver today - Thierry Neuville - https://rally-base.com/2018/rallye-monte-carlo-2018/?ssGroupId=7

[Ucci]

What a start to this season! Great rally, enjoying the whole event.
About Mr.Perfect-Ogier: I've imagined that he will be so superior. After last year's Neuville's "gift" I was convinced that the place on a podium will be a success for Ogier. Indeed he is on podium, but on on the 1st place. And so convincingly, he just won few stages, but those, where the conditions were really bad...and he made a big lap compare to others. The drive of a multiple champion. Nothing more to say.
Toyota boys: a real contenders for the championship. Tanak impressed.
Latvala less, but still he will show his "muscles" already in Sweden. Lappi-also remarkable. Mistake on the PS will be forgotten soon.
Meeke-big dissapointmet, except points at the end.
Hyundai-rally to forget.....but there is always a team, who can not be happy with the result. Still nothing lost. Future looks bright for them.

[N.O.T]

For the championship yes, but for me this wasn’t an epic Monte. Early problems of the Hyundai’s meant there wasn’t a battle at the front and WRC2 turned to shit after one day too.

epic montes usually mean that everyone is out apart from a clear winner that makes the championship boring... i prefer boring montes and an exciting season ahead.

[WUff1]

Back to the Czech Championship for him then..

Unfortunately, yes ....

[cali]

I think Ott probably was referring to the fact that the gravel crew have a very stressful and pressurized job on the Monte.Thus not what he really wants....

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[er88]

That's the mercurial speed Meeke has. Pulled a fastest time from nowhere, Neuville and Mikkelsen not sure what hit them in that power stage! I'm sure Meeke can barely believe he's ended up with 17pts from this weekend despite the performance. Still, a worry for the c3 on very bumpy and slippery tar. Same problems as last year here....

Lappi unlucky to lose 3 places but small mistakes have cost him. On the whole though Toyota will be delighted, he has again shown massive potential and it was a superb performance from the whole team. Jari and Tanak will be championship contenders and my money is on one of the two winning in Sweden, considering all the testing they've already done and knowing the car suits those roads. Tanak just keeps getting better and better!

As for Seb, once again he shows he's the master. Maybe not the fastest driver anymore if you put all the drivers head to head over a single stage shootout, but over the course of a whole rally he's by far the cleverest and that's why he's still favourite for the title. Absolutely brilliant when the conditions were at their most difficult this weekend, and he managed the rally brilliantly from Thursday night onwards.

Can't wait for Sweden!

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[jparker]

Jan Kopecký and Pavel Dresler won WRC2 by nearly 15 minutes and RC2 by more than 5 minutes...
Congrats to him. Job well done.

[focus206]

Great job by Ogier, apart from that ditch excursion really smart drive by him.
Also great job by Toyota, didn't expect that! No technical problems and all drivers drove well, shame for Lappi's mistake at the end, but at least he didn't DNF because of that. Tanak already impressive and Latvala with a mature and smart drive.
Good job by Meeke also. Bad start for Hyundai, but they showed speed, really a shame for the 4 minutes loss by Neuville on SS1.

[Mirek]

Was this video already posted? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdK85GHr8l4

[N.O.T]

why was the asian miracle red bull infant so slow ?

[PLuto]

Points standings after Monte - http://www.autosport.cz/souteze/bodovani.php?id=121

[Mirek]

By the way Kopecký has a birthday today.

[PLuto]

BTW, do you remember any event with 70 penalties (more than crews on start)? - https://rally-base.com/2017/rallye-monte-carlo-2017/penalty/

[itix]

BTW, do you remember any event with 70 penalties (more than crews on start)? - https://rally-base.com/2017/rallye-monte-carlo-2017/penalty/That has to be crowds and car jams.

There is a lot of narrow roads around there and a loooot of spectators for the stages.

[A FONDO]

https://acm.mc/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/STEWARDS-DECISION-No.-4.pdf

https://acm.mc/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/STEWARDS-DECISION-No.-3.pdf

[Rallyper]

Maybe i have misjudged tommis skills as a team manager... maybe

great Job.

Man! That was humble coming from you. Good words. Thumbs up! ;)

[A FONDO]

Okay, Ogier won his home event but continues with small mistakes which will cost him in the next rallies. Neuville - very fast with this heavy understeering car and he was actually pretty solid. His off in the first day was not a big mistake but this is Monte.
Mikelsen had absolutely no idea what he is doing this weekend, a miracle he reached the finish somehow! Breen and Meeke - a total tragedy and complaining all the time. So many childish mistakes and low concentration. The car can't be that bad, actually it looks quite balanced and smooth compared to Toyota and Hyundai.
Lappi spent so many years in ERC he now gets exhausted after 200km. Drives good indeed in the first 1-2 days but still can't trust him.
Buff had never driven so powerful car before and he is grown enough to know you should not disappoint people who make you a big present. Also there's no need to push when Ogier and Evans are still above you.

[PLuto]

That has to be crowds and car jams.

There is a lot of narrow roads around there and a loooot of spectators for the stages.

8 early arrivals to TC is not because of narrow roads or spectators...

[KKS]

BTW, do you remember any event with 70 penalties (more than crews on start)? - https://rally-base.com/2017/rallye-monte-carlo-2017/penalty/
Tanak +50sec?

[RS]

Lappi spent so many years in ERC he now gets exhausted after 200km. Drives good indeed in the first 1-2 days but still can't trust him.


Nonsense. He has been in WRC for three years now but he is still young and learning.

He was probably pushing for power stage points and made a simple mistake.

[KKS]

https://acm.mc/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/STEWARDS-DECISION-No.-4.pdf


lol :D

[EightGear]

BTW, do you remember any event with 70 penalties (more than crews on start)? - https://rally-base.com/2017/rallye-monte-carlo-2017/penalty/That's from last year?

[KKS]

That's from last year?
agrrr .. it's scary me

[Mirek]

That's from last year?

This is 2018 list, muuuuuch longer: https://rally-base.com/2018/rallye-monte-carlo-2018/penalty/

[bearclaw]

does somebody know, is the 2019 edition of rally monte carlo again based in gap. if I remember correctly there was a discussion of going back to valance and the ardeche region.

[Mirek]

Sordo big moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaoW9U49G10

Meeke spin from yesterday I think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhcStm06pgQ

[BigWorm]

Sordo big moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaoW9U49G10

Meeke spin from yesterday I think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhcStm06pgQ

Classic clipping the bank with the front of the car is he? Or is he losing the rear