[WRC] 86th Rallye Monte-Carlo 2018 (Jan 22-28)

[HaCo]

Evans takes 6sec from Neuville...

[Duvel]

Nice sliding on tarmac bends whit the studded tires!

[Mirek]

Also, I think it's a policy that only WRC official can publish footage from the WRC rallies, so if for instance Rovanperä has an onboard camera, he cannot publish the footage on his youtube channel.

IMHO he can but he has to pay for it.

[EstWRC]

Lappi even faster than Latvala

[A FONDO]

Snow has cleaned a lot.

[rallyfiend]

When nearly all cars in national championship can have them why not in WRC?

Your national championship cars have full Live TV onboard cameras on them?

[KKS]

Meeke was 5sec faster on 2nd split of Evans and lost 15sec to him at finish

[lnvs]

When nearly all cars in national championship can have them why not in WRC?For sure every car has onboard camera. He probably means they don't have equipment to transmit video signal live.

[mknight]

What's wrong with Neuville? Evans 6sec faster on first split. Strange stuff

Neuville made a mistake shown on tv, about 2 kms in.

[EstWRC]

Oogier cruising already, +17 secs to Ott in spl1

[KKS]

Ogier 1st split +17sec!!!!!

[er88]

Tanak and Lappi fighting back in this stage!!

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[HaCo]

Lappi takes 10 from Latvala

[HaCo]

Come on Tanak!

[HaCo]

Meeke talks about big gaps in front and back... he should check back again I think with Evans and Neuville fighting

[er88]

Great response from Tanak. Gives him back a bit of a cushion to Jari

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[EstWRC]

a little damper problem for Tänak but nice stage

[HaCo]

Toyota's seem reliable this year?

Hyundai's not...

[EstWRC]

Ogier looks so worried this weekend or is it just me? Maybe because of the illness

[Watson]

Ogier looks so worried this weekend or is it just me? Maybe because of the illness
He looks like he has a bit of a fever, or on fever medication.

[cali]

Toyota's seem reliable this year?

Hyundai's not...Shhhhh.... Still too early!

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[mknight]

Toyota's seem reliable this year?

Hyundai's not...

Fiesta looked like the least reliable car after first two rallies last year.

[Bartek]

Todays all live is worth it's money

[HaCo]

Where is Abbring?

[Myrvold]

I don't think many of the R5 cars are carrying onboard cameras. Equally I wonder from a production standpoint if they need to leave one stage so that people or equipment (helis etc) can head to the next test.

But still, stage 10 with roadside cameras, they could easily show many more cars, instead of having a 2hr studio-broadcast, with heli and onboard of Ogier on a road section.

Show 15-25 more cars, and then cut to studio, they would still have much time for all sorts of interviews, analyzing etc.

[Simmi]

I'm sure Ogier is holding his phone there as he drives back to service. Drivers will quickly learn they need to be careful with this new coverage.

[A FONDO]

Great response from Tanak. Gives him back a bit of a cushion to Jari

Great? After you were humiliated with a minute, 15 seconds desperate attempt when others already took it easy is great?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great job by the M-Sports this morning... class again by Ogier in the worst conditions and Evans taking time off Neuville.

[KKS]

What's wrong with Neuville? Evans 6sec faster on first split. Strange stuff
Evans just better :)

[er88]

Great? After you were humiliated with a minute, 15 seconds desperate attempt when others already took it easy is great?The win has gone (unless Ogier hits trouble). I'm talking about his response in regards to Jari, who had closed up to around 20s behind him. Now it's back up to nearly 40

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[Eli]

Ogier looks so worried this weekend or is it just me? Maybe because of the illness

He looks as if he wants the media to back off and give him some space imho.

[KKS]

I'm sure Ogier is holding his phone there as he drives back to service. Drivers will quickly learn they need to be careful with this new coverage.
FIA should penalize him for some hundreds of euros

[er88]

Meeke will need to be a little bit careful, Evans closing in fast.

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[EstWRC]

FIA Action Road Safety :D

[HaCo]

Can anyone check where Abbring is please?

[Eli]

Meeke will need to be a little bit careful, Evans closing in fast.

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Meeke at this point in my opinion just needs to finish the rally, gain the valuable date from the C3 to the team. No point in taking any risks, if I recall correctly by this time last year he was out so, really he just needs to get to the finish line and even if he scores 4 points from finishing 8th it's still better than crashing and should be a better start to the year. Also, same for Breen, first time for him here with the C3, take it steady.

[KKS]

Can anyone check where Abbring is please?
at the end of 1st stage. Just after stop control , but now start moving slowly 12kph

[HaCo]

at the end of 1st stage. Just after stop control , but now start moving slowly 12kph

Thanks!

[Thousandlakes]

Ott Tänak in live tv "team orders not working anymore" When Malcolm ask him slow down. :)

[KKS]

Ott Tänak in live tv "team orders not working anymore" When Malcolm ask him slow down. :)
real price of Ogier 5th title

[Lead]

He looks as if he wants the media to back off and give him some space imho.
As I'm enjoying more coverage I really feel sorry for drivers. Its just like no room to breathe for them nowadays, soon they will add a camera in their motel rooms and start filming them taking a dump.

[KKS]

Seb Loeb told that Ogier use same pacenotes system as he. How many pacenotes system french have?

[er88]

Nice Loeb interview here. Again saying the C3 is ' really quite difficult in high speed corners and on gravel and wet tarmac. On dry tarmac it's great'.

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[PLuto]

Can anyone check where Abbring is please?

Retired after SS 9

[Eli]

Nice Loeb interview here. Again saying the C3 is ' really quite difficult in high speed corners and on gravel and wet tarmac. On dry tarmac it's great'.

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When did they interview him???

[Eli]

As I'm enjoying more coverage I really feel sorry for drivers. Its just like no room to breathe for them nowadays, soon they will add a camera in their motel rooms and start filming them taking a dump.

Same here.

[EstWRC]

checkpoints video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BFeqaZqdFw

[er88]

When did they interview him???Very recently it seems.

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[T16]

When did they interview him???

He’s in the service park today.
I’m sure I heard that he’s going to do a bit of presenting on WRC+ today too.

[wrchirek]

He’s in the service park today.
I’m sure I heard that he’s going to do a bit of presenting on WRC+ today too.

Was it too late to enter him with a 3rd C3 after he retired early from Dakar?

[PLuto]

Was it too late to enter him with a 3rd C3 after he retired early from Dakar?

Yes, it was too late.

[marcosg]

I will prefer to have starting order according to results, so Ogier first, Tanak second etc.this should be the sports biggest talking point... everything else is just fine at the moment

this system makes no sense at all... its just stupid that the first cars on the road arent the fastest...

we have had it before and it worked fine... and nowadays we dont have splits in the cars!

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[dimviii]

Νucita with 4th fastest time at ss 9

[AnttiL]

I wonder what the conditions are like on the stages now? Snow? Cleared to Tarmac? Which tyre choice is the best?

[A FONDO]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUiZhQ6X0AEJOjL.jpg:large

[mknight]

this should be the sports biggest talking point... everything else is just fine at the moment

this system makes no sense at all... its just stupid that the first cars on the road arent the fastest...

we have had it before and it worked fine... and nowadays we dont have splits in the cars!


What? Do you forget so fast?

If you let leaders go first on gravel rallies you'd have people parking on the side of the road on last stage of friday/saturday so that they don't have to clean. We have seen that a lot before.

Makes for epic TV ;)

[EstWRC]

I wonder what the conditions are like on the stages now? Snow? Cleared to Tarmac? Which tyre choice is the best?

Colin Clark
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@voiceofrally
8m8 minutes ago
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Stunning conditions in the mountains at the end of SS11. Warming in the sun and snow rapidly melting. Plenty of slush on the stage and +6C

[Mintexmemory]

real price of Ogier 5th title

Mr Tanak had a finishing to his education and became a winner. He was never going to beat Ogier even with the same evo and no team orders!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ott Tänak in live tv "team orders not working anymore" When Malcolm ask him slow down. :)

He didnt need to ask this morning on the first stage ! ;)

[Watson]

He will be remembered what it's like by mid-season if Latvala is ahead of him in the standings.

[AnttiL]

Toyotas 5 unstudded, Evans and Bouffier 3+3, the rest 4 unstudded + 2 studded

[EstWRC]

More
#Tyre info SS11 & SS12:
Ogier/Neuville/Mikkelsen/Breen/Meeke: 4 Michelin Pilot Alpin A4 + 2 Michelin Pilot Alpin A4 studded
Evans/Bouffier: 3 Michelin Pilot Alpin A4 + 3 Michelin Pilot Alpin A4 studded
Latvala/Tanak/Lappi: 5 Michelin Pilot Alpin A4

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mikkelsen spin
https://youtu.be/1T_gv4dtFZs

[N.O.T]

very few things left to be decided by driving now...

[EstWRC]

well seeing the stage condition i doubt they will use the studded ones

[KKS]

Looks like Evans with wrong tyres here

[HaCo]

SAT 11:58 - SS11: DELAY
Due to concerns over the positioning of some spectators.

[PLuto]

What? Do you forget so fast?

If you let leaders go first on gravel rallies you'd have people parking on the side of the road on last stage of friday/saturday so that they don't have to clean. We have seen that a lot before.

Makes for epic TV ;)

There are no splits now, completely different situation...

[A FONDO]

https://www.facebook.com/EpicRallyTribe2.0/videos/779096438955362/

[EstWRC]

Breen 3 minutes faster in the split than in the morning

[HaCo]

https://www.facebook.com/EpicRallyTribe2.0/videos/779096438955362/

Great stuff!!

[marcosg]

What? Do you forget so fast?

If you let leaders go first on gravel rallies you'd have people parking on the side of the road on last stage of friday/saturday so that they don't have to clean. We have seen that a lot before.

Makes for epic TV ;)with splits... without them is less likely that it happens

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[Simmi]

Neuville should have some damage after that off. But nothing too bad.

[wia5958]

Is nucita's time on ss9 correct? If so dam impressive

[HaCo]

Neuville should have some damage after that off. But nothing too bad.

He was off?

[Duvel]

He was off?

Half spin, backside up against a bank. And now just overshot at junction

[Duvel]

Evans 3.7 faster than neuville

[EstWRC]

what on earth is Neuville doing? third mistake alrrady

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville wild there !

[Duvel]

Now neuville in to afield

[Simmi]

Is nucita's time on ss9 correct? If so dam impressive

Yeah I just saw this and had trouble believing it...

[HaCo]

Ai Ai :(

[danon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1-DsYObRwA

[HaCo]

Yeah I just saw this and had trouble believing it...

RWD... impossible

[Mr C1412]

I don’t want to speak too soon but this coverage is pretty great!

[HaCo]

TN at finish, faster then Breen

[KKS]

and fastest than Breen anyway

[Mr C1412]

Could do with seeing some live action during the stage end interviews

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans 11s up at split to TN

[HaCo]

Evans also in a field :D :D :D

Live feeds rule (Youtube)

[Rally Hokkaido]

Other cars overshooting that junction -aquaplanning?
EDIT - it was Evans
DOUBLE EDIT: Meeke, too!

[PLuto]

Is nucita's time on ss9 correct? If so dam impressive

Yes, time is correct. He was starting at the back and conditions were much better than first cars.

[HaCo]

Hat off for Evans!

[Mr C1412]

Noting clever about illegally using YouTube to watch live streams. If people don’t pay up there won’t be any live feeds

[HaCo]

Noting clever about illegally using YouTube to watch live streams. If people don’t pay up there won’t be any live feeds

It's spectator feed!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke off also.

[A FONDO]

TN spin SS11 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCSBYMuz950

[EstWRC]

Lappi has had a mistake somewhere

[Mr C1412]

Why on Earth is the director so obsessed with watching the driver’s face rather than action?! We missed Meeke going off ffs! Someone give the director a kick up the arse please

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak flying !

[EstWRC]

Ogier stopped?

had 0km/h for a long time


going now

[dimviii]

It's spectator feed!

sanglieeeeeerrr team link.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Lappi stopped ... puncture.

[HaCo]

Evans in front of Bouffier

[EstWRC]

Lappi exactly in front of tänak now


he has let Ott thoughr now

[KKS]

good time for Meeke with field excursion

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier has lost BIG time WTF has happened !!

[HaCo]

Ogier has lost BIG time WTF has happened !!

How much?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

How much?

Must be an error... comms said only 8s.

[HaCo]

Another one in the field :D

[Huufke]

Tänak also through the field.

[EstWRC]

lol Tänak on the field too

[EstWRC]

Toyota train!!

[Googol]

Ogier has 10:03 in split 1, but that may be his split 2. In that case it's 18 behind Tänak.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No coverage of our rally leader... :(

[EstWRC]

No coverage of our rally leader... :(

and what mistake he made...like i said he had 0km/h for quite a time

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Early splits were miles off, like 4 mins... now just 13s down.

[Simmi]

Stop nitpicking people. F**k sakes.

We've gone from a radio feed that cut out every 8 minutes to full action of every stage. Edited together on the fly.

Just take a step back and realise what we have.

[HaCo]

Ogier +15

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Stop nitpicking people. F**k sakes.

We've gone from a radio feed that cut out every 8 minutes to full action of every stage. Edited together on the fly.

Just take a step back and realise what we have.

You dont think seeing the leader and correct splits is pretty important ?

[Mr C1412]

They appear to find cars pulling up to the stop control and interviews more exciting

[theracingelf]

Stop nitpicking people. F**k sakes.

We've gone from a radio feed that cut out every 8 minutes to full action of every stage. Edited together on the fly.

Just take a step back and realise what we have.

Doesn't mean we can't point out things to improve though.
With the running order today we nearly have no coverage of the leaders, only when they are nearly to the finish. Which is something I think they have to reconsider.

[EstWRC]

hehe no word from Ogier what happened there, im gonna look from the onboard later....guys in estonian forum also saw that he had speed 0km/h for a while.

[HaCo]

SS12 spectator feed for the poor ones: https://www.facebook.com/225590097494105/videos/1609016305818137/

[HaCo]

ewrc is out again...

[TheFlyingTuga]

Supposedly we have a live from RedBull TV from SS12

https://www.redbull.tv/video/AP-1U6BJNHH91W11/super-stage-monte-carlo

[KKS]

hehe no word from Ogier what happened there, im gonna look from the onboard later....guys in estonian forum also saw that he had speed 0km/h for a while.
And that's why I HATE HIM!

[Mr C1412]

Doesn't mean we can't point out things to improve though.
With the running order today we nearly have no coverage of the leaders, only when they are nearly to the finish. Which is something I think they have to reconsider.

I agree. We have every right to critise idiotic directing and camera angles, etc that we have all moaned about for years, yet they do not listen. When we are paying £70 odd for the year we expect an almost gold standard service

[HaCo]

Redbull, thank you!

[Googol]

hehe no word from Ogier what happened there, im gonna look from the onboard later....guys in estonian forum also saw that he had speed 0km/h for a while.

You think they are going to put the onboard there if something indeed happened? Though splits don't support a too long while anyway.

[dimviii]

ewrc is out again...

https://rally-base.com/2018/rallye-monte-carlo-2018/?ssId=4479&ssGroupId=1

[KKS]

Suninen! It's a veeery fast boy, +2sec to Bouffier with wrc17 car

[EstWRC]

You think they are going to put the onboard there if something indeed happened? Though splits don't support a too long while anyway.

they have always put them up :S

[eib1]

Sordo off
https://twitter.com/inforallyes/status/957217002178965507

[doubled1978]

I agree. We have every right to critise idiotic directing and camera angles, etc that we have all moaned about for years, yet they do not listen. When we are paying £70 odd for the year we expect an almost gold standard service

Its the 1st rally! I'm sure the kinks will be ironed out as time goes on, and quite frankly £70 for an entire year is for nothing. I can't for the life of me understand how anyone thinks that is expensive for live coverage of every stage on the whole championship!

[eib1]

hehe no word from Ogier what happened there, im gonna look from the onboard later....guys in estonian forum also saw that he had speed 0km/h for a while.

also Mikkelsen had 0 km/h more-less at same spot, maybe timing error?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I really dont think Ogier had a problem or off on the last stage. The early split I saw was clearly wrong and nowhere else is there any mention of him having any sort of issue.

[Eli]

https://www.redbull.tv/video/AP-1U6BJNHH91W11/super-stage-monte-carlo
For anyone who wants a normal coverage (& for free) of the upcoming stage.

[theracingelf]

also Mikkelsen had 0 km/h more-less at same spot, maybe timing error?

Probably, there have been some connection problems this weekend, people shouldn't get so worked up about it.

[EstWRC]

also Mikkelsen had 0 km/h more-less at same spot, maybe timing error?

oh, that maybe it then! thanks

[Barreis]

https://www.redbull.tv/video/AP-1U6BJNHH91W11/super-stage-monte-carlo
For anyone who wants a normal coverage (& for free) of the upcoming stage.

it doesn't work. probably too much audiance

[Tauri_J]

I really dont think Ogier had a problem or off on the last stage. The early split I saw was clearly wrong and nowhere else is there any mention of him having any sort of issue.

That eas His 2nd split

[dimviii]

it doesn't work. probably too much audiance

works perfect for me

[HaCo]

Really impressed by Evans, what a great driver!

[HaCo]

works perfect for me

Here as well!

[BigWorm]

Apparently Camilli stopped in SS11

[HaCo]

Big slides!!!

[HaCo]

No drama this time for TN, a lot less sliding.

[Simmi]

You dont think seeing the leader and correct splits is pretty important ?

I think the splits is a separate issue most likely. Duff splits all rally. You always have bad splits every event too so it's not a new 'All Live' issue.

The coverage is following the live stage format for the last few years where you never see the leader either. I admit it is maybe not ideal to see them following the power/TV stage concept so closely. But it creates a bit of structure for the editors I guess.

[HaCo]

Evans :D :D :D

[HaCo]

Bryan very slow...

[HaCo]

Or timing error

[BigWorm]

Bouffier +13.2

[HaCo]

Evans only 30 seconds behind Meeke

[Sulland]

Did Veiby stop or go off on ss11?

[N.O.T]

do splits work on the official wrc.com ?

[Myrvold]

Did Veiby stop or go off on ss11?

Ole Christian Veiby @OCVeiby
now
#RallyeMonteCarlo SS11 update: We hit a steel barrier on the side of the road, and unfortunately we are not able to continue. Both crew ok. #Skoda #RC2

[HaCo]

do splits work on the official wrc.com ?

No:
Technical Support is working to solve Live Timing issues with the Championship’s official results provider.

Provisional Live Timing below, for latest News & Standings also check the LIVE TEXT. Itinerary can be found here.

[Huufke]

Ogier losing 7.8 sec on first split against Tänak.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Splits working for me

[HaCo]

No:
Technical Support is working to solve Live Timing issues with the Championship’s official results provider.

Provisional Live Timing below, for latest News & Standings also check the LIVE TEXT. Itinerary can be found here.

Sory, there are splits...
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/livecenter/page/4175----.html

[EstWRC]

haha Tänak to Molly....nice one

[USER47]

Yeah, splits are working fine for me...

[N.O.T]

i do not like the new split system....

[PLuto]

ewrc is out again...

Follow https://rally-base.com/2018/rallye-monte-carlo-2018 ;)

[Ucci]

Tanak doesn't give up. Brave driver! But this is always "walk on the edge"....

[Simmi]

WRC2 is nuts on the most prestigious rally in the championship. So many drivers fearing it. When in reality you can still probably podium after driving into a stream.

[Mirek]

Sory, there are splits...
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/livecenter/page/4175----.html

Sometimes You can update them if You have the site already in cache but You can't access them in new window.

[KKS]

Sometimes You can update them if You have the site already in cache but You can't access them in new window.
can

http://webappsdata.wrc.com/web/classification/classification.html?%7B%22event%22:%7B%22eventid%2 2:%22a506b05d-371f-4110-bd94-c0d1ff725926%22%7D%7D

[PLuto]

All splits are working directly in WRC+

[PLuto]

Mixed feeling for Nucita on Devoluy. First run fourth overall, second run retired...

[dimviii]

what a stupid idea to give after the stage finish jars with honey.

[Simmi]

what a stupid idea to give after the stage finish jars with honey.

Suninen was just like 'nah' I don't want it. Love that. I'd have been too polite.

I know it's sort of traditional, but can you imagine if locals did that on every stage of the championship.

[AL14]

what a stupid idea to give after the stage finish jars with honey.

why?

[dimviii]

why?

glass jars,not proper way to store it inside a rally car=broken
They could had put them at least at a box.

[AL14]

glass jars,not proper way to store it inside a rally car=broken
They could had put them at least at a box.

Ah, I didn't think about it. Well you're right they should have secured them.

[Tauri_J]

Tanak doesn't give up. Brave driver! But this is always "walk on the edge"....

he said that he was not pushing at all

[Tarmop]

It`s a nice idea and there are places, although some better packaging would be nice.

[macebig]

Lets see.''Finnish village team'' looks very strong. Too early to tell of course.Ogier seems to be class of the field again.Evans and Bouffier are doing a fine job.Meeke at least has kept it on road.Hyundai continue their self destructing ways of 2017.

[EstWRC]

Lappis mistake at 2:00 https://www.ewrc-results.com/video/24745-rallye-monte-carlo-2018-day-3-es-11-crash-lappi-and-crash-camera/

[eib1]

well done Lappi!
was waiting for Tänak get back on road

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=70&v=6UPHGAQwotQ

[Simmi]

Lappis mistake at 2:00 https://www.ewrc-results.com/video/24745-rallye-monte-carlo-2018-day-3-es-11-crash-lappi-and-crash-camera/

Brown trouser moment for quite a few people! Lucky to only collect a puncture.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

💬 SS12 @ElfynEvans - "Just before the start the intercom packed up and I reckon I only heard 40% of the pace notes. It's a stage I know, and I've been doing my homework. I just had to drive as I saw it." #WRC #FordPerformance #RallyeMonteCarlo https://t.co/5okzdhl357

[PLuto]

Camilli finished SS 11 with very slow time. Tried to finish also SS 12, but he was not successful.

[jparker]

Really impressed by Evans, what a great driver!

Me too. Looks like he's getting more competitive when someone is chasing him.

[EstWRC]

More
#Tyre info SS13 - All the Michelin @WRC drivers with 5 Michelin Pilot Sport Super Soft SS6 except
Ogier with 4 Michelin Pilot Sport Soft (S6) + 1SS
Evans/Bouffier: 5 S6 #WRC #RallyeMonteCarlo

[macebig]

Harder tires for Ford. Interesting choice.

[dupanton]

Harder tires for Ford. Interesting choice.

Maybe saving super softs for tomorrow? Can't see any other reason really.

[KKS]

what weather for SS13?

[Watson]

Maybe saving super softs for tomorrow? Can't see any other reason really.

Has to be considering there are only 25 odd km left today. The SS should easily handle that.

[Mintexmemory]

Has to be considering there are only 25 odd km left today. The SS should easily handle that.

If he loses a second per km for that choice he is still leading for the final leg and on the best tyres - The 4-6 battle is the really interesting feature for tonight and tomorrow. Can Meeke step it up?

[N.O.T]

Ogier on softs the others on supersofts for the last one...

only driver mistakes or changing conditions now can alter things the driving is over.

[Watson]

If he loses a second per km for that choice he is still leading for the final leg and on the best tyres - The 4-6 battle is the really interesting feature for tonight and tomorrow. Can Meeke step it up?

Might that be why he took studded tyres on SS11-12 eventhough it wasn't really necessary?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great onboard of Evans and Barratt PURE SOUND... give us this option please WRC+ !

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Times and live stream in sync now... so it is possible !

[N.O.T]

Breen tries to mess up the stage for the ones behind... lol...

[itix]

If meeke doesn't up his pace soon, he's gonna lose his 4th place
http://i65.tinypic.com/11w97k3.png

[N.O.T]

If meeke doesn't up his pace soon, he's gonna lose his 4th place
https://www.mobilefish.com/customer/tmp/wanted_poster/og56706_created.png

if he does he might lose everything though...

[itix]

if he does he might lose everything though...

True, knowing Meeke

[steve.mandzij]

Yes Lappi! What a guy. Also, second stage on which Latvala has beaten Tanak so far. Impressive from Tanak.

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[HaCo]

I also prefer the old split time system... changing the order in the table is annoying.

[dupanton]

True, knowing Meeke

Really poor rally for Meeke, no pace at all

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier going to have a 30s+ lead... just enough I think.

33.5s.

[HaCo]

Really poor rally for Meeke, no pace at all

The car is not working on these surfaces, ask Loeb :-)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Could be a nice battle tomorrow for 4-5-6 and Neuville waiting for any mistakes.

[N.O.T]

i do not think anyone is going to risk anything on monte tomorrow...

overall an ok event.. Neuville not as dominant as last year but with more points in the end it seems. Ogier nothing special speedwise and tanak the new force to be reckoned with.

Too many mistakes to judge the speed of cars and drivers from this event.

[Salist]

I agree Ogier absolute controlling this race.

[EstWRC]

Ogier didnt seem to be satisfied with the new estonian meteo guy :p

[macebig]

About Meeke..6/8/10 points are better than 0 (and another destroyed chassis...).Seems like Kris is trying to follow that plan...

[spiderem]

i do not think anyone is going to risk anything on monte tomorrow...

overall an ok event.. Neuville not as dominant as last year but with more points in the end it seems. Ogier nothing special speedwise and tanak the new force to be reckoned with.

Too many mistakes to judge the speed of cars and drivers from this event.

What's wrong with you? No anger or sick comments about Neuville, are you ill???

[itix]

About Meeke..6/8/10 points are better than 0 (and another destroyed chassis...).Seems like Kris is trying to follow that plan...

With his history, I agree... Also tomorrow is the monte where this this rally will be turned upside down.

[itix]

What's wrong with you? No anger or sick comments about Neuville, are you ill???

Shhhh, we like this side of NOT

[ESTR]

It's probably last season for Kris aswell. And Citroen too if he don't bring some decent points home. So he better stay on road than on the side.

[dupanton]

What's wrong with you? No anger or sick comments about Neuville, are you ill???

Look at my prediction in the crystal ball thread :p

[N.O.T]

What's wrong with you? No anger or sick comments about Neuville, are you ill???

As the great Reggie Jackson once said

Fans don't boo nobodies.

And neuville is just that, if he failed to win the easiest title that was given to him last year through the efforts of hyundai i do not see how he can do it this year no that the others caught up... so why bother.

[racerx1979]

Great rally. Toyota boys in good position especially if they can hold current positions before going into Sweden where they should do well.

Tanak most impressive for me. Citroen and Hyundais also good, but I think a bit of bad luck and minor issues for these teams. As always, Monte leaves us scratching our heads.

Ogier knows this rally well. My contact at Toyota said they are all ecstatic about the team. Tommi told everyone it would be nearly impossible to beat Ogier in Monte, but he did not think Tanak would be so close. JML has changed a few setting which better suite him and he is now putting down good times. Lappi has surprised everyone. Apparently he did an extensive tarmac school in Italy before this rally along with a lot of carting to bring up his Tarmac skills.

[Eli]

Meeke as said earlier should make do with what he's got, I mean, I think he knows by now the car is still nowhere near it's competitors pace once it's not a proper dry road, so still a lot of work to be done on the C3. Also too me he seems like a broken man during the interviews, or a man that knows that it's Citroën's last season in the WRC.... As for Neuville, as N.O.T said before me, will be hard for Neuville to get the title this year. I do expect that Mikkelsen might be able to challenge if he continues to show the pace he showed end of last year and finishes rallies with out the issues. Bravo for Tanak and EP, don't think a lot of people expected that kind of pace from them right from the off.

[seb_sh]

The coverage is getting better bit by bit so that's good.

Tanak is impressive on his first rally with the new car. Meeke does seem upset about something, I got the feeling he blames the car for being slow.

[EstWRC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmgpv6D9nJ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pA1T1jhaDQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0n0WURJs48

[rs7]

The coverage is getting better bit by bit so that's good.

Tanak is impressive on his first rally with the new car. Meeke does seem upset about something, I got the feeling he blames the car for being slow.

My understanging was that the C3 does not have the new suspension parts yet. So basically it is a last years car in that department

[AnttiL]

My understanging was that the C3 does not have the new suspension parts yet. So basically it is a last years car in that department

I thought the main improvements were for gravel setup

[steve.mandzij]

Judging by Toyota's performance so far I'm betting on them winning the manu title. Arguably the strongest team, permanent drivers and a car that's as good as, if not better, than the Fiesta. M Sport is betting on temporary Suninen for car no. 3 and Hyundai's drivers are super unreliable. Citroen needs no explanation.

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[seb_sh]

My understanging was that the C3 does not have the new suspension parts yet. So basically it is a last years car in that department


I thought the main improvements were for gravel setup

So basically he's probably upset the car was not developed at all for this rally. If we assume that then most of his comments like we can't fight this is all the pace we've got (paraphrasing) would fit.

[jparker]

Back to Mikkelsen alternator issue, anyone dare to speculate how a belt brakes and/or came off? Does anyone remember if such a thing happened before?

[doubled1978]

I think its pretty tough to judge too much by Monte Carlo, there is just too much random circumstance.
Anyone could have been off and out on the first night on that ice, really just good fortune who got away with the least time loss.
Its clear the Ford is still pretty benign, so too the Hyundai and Toyota. The Citroen still looks a right handful when the traction is low. So far Meeke has been smart and we didn't say that much last year.

[Tarmop]

Loosely tightened or faulty.

[itix]

Back to Mikkelsen alternator issue, anyone dare to speculate how a belt brakes and/or came off? Does anyone remember if such a thing happened before?

Belts break either from wear... which isn't the case in the WRC because I bet they swap them every event... or misalignment between the pulleys which increase the wear exponentially.
I don't know how things are mounted in the hyundai and what adjustment they have so don't know the root cause if it was indeed the belt.

They weigh nothing so I'm surprised they don't have a spare in the car.

[jparker]

I think its pretty tough to judge too much by Monte Carlo, there is just too much random circumstance.
Anyone could have been off and out on the first night on that ice, really just good fortune who got away with the least time loss.


Some people like to predict and analyze well in advance, and if they got it right to say "I told you so". It's an ego kind of thing.

[AnttiL]

Belts break either from wear... which isn't the case in the WRC because I bet they swap them every event... or misalignment between the pulleys which increase the wear exponentially.
I don't know how things are mounted in the hyundai and what adjustment they have so don't know the root cause if it was indeed the belt.

They weigh nothing so I'm surprised they don't have a spare in the car.

They do carry a spare but the broken belt got stuck in the alternator

[itix]

They do carry a spare but the broken belt got stuck in the alternator

Ah... that explains it.

[SubaruNorway]

Back to Mikkelsen alternator issue, anyone dare to speculate how a belt brakes and/or came off? Does anyone remember if such a thing happened before?

I small part of it broke and winded itself behind the alternator pulley and that can be really hard to get out.
A small rock could have been jammed in the groves of a wheel, seen that before and if you're really unlucky the belt will find it's way into the cambelt and break the engine.

[irish_tiger]

On the way down from for stages and passed through a town called Barreme ??? And an official car is after crashing into a tree , don't know if it's a Duster or a Megane but very bad accident

[JUF]

Judging by Toyota's performance so far I'm betting on them winning the manu title. Arguably the strongest team, permanent drivers and a car that's as good as, if not better, than the Fiesta. M Sport is betting on temporary Suninen for car no. 3 and Hyundai's drivers are super unreliable. Citroen needs no explanation. I agree that Toyota has a strong team, but I think it´s too early to bet on them winning the manu title. Don´t forget that Latvala and Lappi tend to make mistakes under pressure as well... I still think that Hyundai has the best package.


I think its pretty tough to judge too much by Monte Carlo, there is just too much random circumstance.
I fully agree with that. This event is so special that you can´t make any judgements right now.

[ESTR]

Interesting that technical issues are always on #4 car. I talk about Hyundai.

What I'm asking if anybody know why lights on Fiesta's last year was blinking all through season. And now they aren't?

[Tarmop]

Lol...conspiracy theories.:D Blinking lights is the case of led fequency and camera. Try with a simple led flashlight /car light and smartphone for example.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I thought Citroen had addressed the problems in the last months, but Loeb said in his interview today that the C3 is only good on dry tarmac and was hard to drive on gravel. He didnt sound confident of any success .

What chance does Meeke have...

[A FONDO]

Luca https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fverPXvbi8
Rigostyle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pA1T1jhaDQ

[Eli]

I thought Citroen had addressed the problems in the last months, but Loeb said in his interview today that the C3 is only good on dry tarmac and was hard to drive on gravel. He didnt sound confident of any success .

What chance does Meeke have...

Sounds as if this will be Citroen's last year.....

[Tarmop]

Where was that interview?

[Rally Power]

Meeke as said earlier should make do with what he's got, I mean, I think he knows by now the car is still nowhere near it's competitors pace once it's not a proper dry road, so still a lot of work to be done on the C3. Also too me he seems like a broken man during the interviews, or a man that knows that it's Citroën's last season in the WRC.... .

Who knows, maybe you're right, but I still got amazed with all the talk around Citroen. Honestly, I didn’t hear Meeke saying anything about the car. SS1 mistake took him any podium chances and he was a quiet 5th (far from Lappi ahead and Bouffier behind) till Lappi’s issue; after it, a little off (SS12) and a probable spin on the last stage (Meeke mentioned engine stalled on a hairpin) made him not only loosing P4 but also having Evans much closer. Is all this on the car account?

[A FONDO]

Mezzo Arisso https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9nE7PVab3Y

[Eli]

Who knows, maybe you're right, but I still got amazed with all the talk around Citroen. Honestly, I didn’t hear Meeke saying anything about the car. SS1 mistake took him any podium chances and he was a quiet 5th (far from Lappi ahead and Bouffier behind) till Lappi’s issue; after it, a little off (SS12) and a probable spin on the last stage (Meeke mentioned engine stalled on a hairpin) made him not only loosing P4 but also having Evans much closer. Is all this on the car account?

Your'e right, I'm just guessing,, for now with Meeke remaining tight lip it's hard to know anything. Perhaps it's just he hasn't found the confidence or the right set-up to tackle these stages...only time will tell.

[Mirek]

Veiby won't restart. Car is too damaged.

[A FONDO]

Some day 2 action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctHbO4VDVVk

[ESTR]

Veiby won't restart. Car is too damaged.

What happened? Am I missing something?

[Mirek]

He crashed in SS11 from second place in RC2. Now it's Rovanpera second in RC2 nearly four minutes behind Kopecký. In WRC2 it's 12+ minutes to second De Mevius...

[steve.mandzij]

Your'e right, I'm just guessing,, for now with Meeke remaining tight lip it's hard to know anything. Perhaps it's just he hasn't found the confidence or the right set-up to tackle these stages...only time will tell.Meeke has looked completely dejected all weekend. I feel he might be suffering emotionally.

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[A FONDO]

powerslides https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmi8vLXIrpQ

[Eli]

Meeke has looked completely dejected all weekend. I feel he might be suffering emotionally.

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Yeah he has, let's hope it will pass soon.

[HarriK]

He crashed in SS11 from second place in RC2. Now it's Rovanpera second in RC2 nearly four minutes behind Kopecký. In WRC2 it's 12+ minutes to second De Mevius...

I thought it would also not be possible to restart for the last day of RMC according regulations?
Like Sordo?