Rally Wrc Mexico 2017

[pantealex]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6xWeLBVoAICrtz.jpg


Bit strange that nobody is writing about this

[Rallyper]

Bit strange that nobody is writing about this

So what happened after?

[tc10a]

Bit strange that nobody is writing about this

https://www.rallye-magazin.de/wm/artikel/d/2017/03/13/mexiko-droht-ein-nachspiel-fuer-sebastien-ogier/

[cali]

So what happened after?
All MSport gearboxes are under scrutiny

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

What can be illegal in a gearbox.. something not homologated ?

[Mirek]

Many things from non-homologated gear ratios through hydraulic system to non allowed materials.

[dimviii]

every part theoretically can be out homologations standarts.

[MentalParadox]

I have to say, I'm quite annoyed by the manner in which WRC+ reports these rallies. In the day 3 review, right before the break, they basically show you Meeke crashing and then say "we'll see what happens after the break".
Then they proceed to show all the other runners, while the reporters keeps talking as if we don't already know he's going to crash...

Yeah, that's the point of reporting events in chronological order if you're going to spoil that Meeke crashes? And it's not the first time this season that they do this. These "offs" and crashes should be a surprise!

[dimviii]

Meeke his mistake was bigger than both Neuvilles mistakes together... Still Meeke won and Neuville was was out twice. So Meeke was really lucky or Neuville very unlucky. Championship standings could have looked completly different!

for sure he was extremely lucky,but Neuville has done the same at Germany with fiesta,out of road with many km/h,and came back to the road and finished.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLJITgPQyio

it was almost same scenario,he was 2nd 3sec from Sordo one stage from the end,and at last stage you watch at video what happened
http://www.ewrc-results.com/results.php?e=6539&s=43568&t=ADAC-Rallye-Deutschland-2013

[Tarmop]

All MSport gearboxes are under scrutiny

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If I understand correctly, all exept Ogier`s were released last evening.

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

Meeke onboard. Nagle thought they'd lost it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdKjCIxvc6Y&feature=youtu.be&a
Only two minutes unfortunately..

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[SubaruNorway]

Only two minutes unfortunately..

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Just go on WRC+ and you can watch 3H 22M of onboard from almost every driver...
There's so much footage around it's almost impossible to make time to watch it all!

[Allyc85]

No mention of Evans or Dmack at all in the highlights tonight. Pretty poor, when all they had to at least do was mention the penalty..

[BigWorm]

No mention of Evans or Dmack at all in the highlights tonight. Pretty poor, when all they had to at least do was mention the penalty..

Well, he was pretty anonymous I think. Not much to extract from his performance other than tyre data for Dmack.

[dimviii]

https://www.facebook.com/krismeeke

[Kris82]

I think that's for the corner after the one he went off.

"5 Right plus over bump opens for 120 be neat this time" is the call for the corner.

I listened to that call over and over and can't hear "bump opens". The way Paul said that part is close to how I'd pronounce "performance" and sounds more like "creformance" to be exact. The "ormance" is "opens" but "cref" doesn't sound like "bump" it's actually closer to "crest". "Crest opens" sounds closer to what I hear then "bump opens" even though it's actually a bump in the road and not a crest. Either way there is a lot of info cramped together and given out very quickly.

[PLuto]

Just go on WRC+ and you can watch 3H 22M of onboard from almost every driver...
There's so much footage around it's almost impossible to make time to watch it all!

But usually the most important onboards on stages when something happened are missing...

[stefanvv]

No mention of Evans or Dmack at all in the highlights tonight. Pretty poor, when all they had to at least do was mention the penalty..

That's not much of surprise, last year Ogier was almost invisible on event highlight as well, cleaning the road for 2 days....

[GravelBen]

That's not much of surprise, last year Ogier was almost invisible on event highlight as well, cleaning the road for 2 days....

Ahaha were you even watching? They showed heaps of Ogier last year and generally rabbiting on and on and on and on about how he was disadvantaged cleaning the road, even when he wasn't.

[steve.mandzij]

Ahaha were you even watching? They showed heaps of Ogier last year and generally rabbiting on and on and on and on about how he was disadvantaged cleaning the road, even when he wasn't.
I wouldn't mind going back to last year's rules. Ogier's bitching got old when he won the title.

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[stefanvv]

Ahaha were you even watching? They showed heaps of Ogier last year and generally rabbiting on and on and on and on about how he was disadvantaged cleaning the road, even when he wasn't.

I was meant to be serious btw. If You watch only some stage end comments, I watch some driving there.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Right, ok... now that all the excitement is over and the dust has settled on Meeke's (crazy) win... What the hell was he doing pushing so hard on the last stage when he had to just drive through and finish to win and redeem himself and the C3 ???

I said before the stage he would take no risks in this situation, so why did he ?

Was it that he just felt so good and confident and wanted to get the extra points, or did he want to prove a point (to Ogier) that he was the fastest when in the same road position ?

I couldnt believe it, I still cant. He could have ruined his remaining career if he'd not got the luck yesterday...

[dimviii]

does anybody remember what was split 2 for Meeke?
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/livecenter/page/4175----.html

[bugwrx]

I remember him being very close with Tänak on second split, I bealive like 0.3sec faster than Ott there.

Also i dont blame Kris going for the extra points, he needs them. Guess he felt good and decided to push. Just like JML did in Sweden.

[bassist]

My Nerves can no longer handle watching Kris in this World Championship. It is all much too stressful. Wake me up at the end of Rally Australia- I'm off Trainspotting and to look for N.O.T.'s Brain.

[steve.mandzij]

My Nerves can no longer handle watching Kris in this World Championship. It is all much too stressful. Wake me up at the end of Rally Australia- I'm off Trainspotting and to look for N.O.T.'s Brain.
If you find it embed a Toyota logo in it, preferably stamped with a 10. Thanks for the trouble!

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[stefanvv]

Right, ok... now that all the excitement is over and the dust has settled on Meeke's (crazy) win... What the hell was he doing pushing so hard on the last stage when he had to just drive through and finish to win and redeem himself and the C3 ???

I said before the stage he would take no risks in this situation, so why did he ?

Was it that he just felt so good and confident and wanted to get the extra points, or did he want to prove a point (to Ogier) that he was the fastest when in the same road position ?

I couldnt believe it, I still cant. He could have ruined his remaining career if he'd not got the luck yesterday...

I think I will pass.

[thescyy]

Right, ok... now that all the excitement is over and the dust has settled on Meeke's (crazy) win... What the hell was he doing pushing so hard on the last stage when he had to just drive through and finish to win and redeem himself and the C3 ???

I said before the stage he would take no risks in this situation, so why did he ?

Was it that he just felt so good and confident and wanted to get the extra points, or did he want to prove a point (to Ogier) that he was the fastest when in the same road position ?

I couldnt believe it, I still cant. He could have ruined his remaining career if he'd not got the luck yesterday...

He's way to much like his mentor(Without quite the same level of skill), for the good and the bad.

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

Just go on WRC+ and you can watch 3H 22M of onboard from almost every driver...
There's so much footage around it's almost impossible to make time to watch it all!
Not all rally fans can afford for this..

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[er88]

Could Ogier be excluded then? Surely if they've held his car for further scrutiny there's something wrong with it...?

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[Franky]

Not all rally fans can afford for this..

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There are plenty of free promotion codes. Last year I think it was pretty much possible to watch the entire season for free because those bastards kept posting new free promo codes before each event.

[Andre Oliveira]

Gearbox is not part issue but one paper issue. No worry Ford fans.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I also find it strange that not one reporter or interviewer has asked Meeke why he didnt just take the win...

Colin Clark said on his vlog that if Meeke hadnt got the win that it didnt bear thinking about...

[sonnybobiche]

I also find it strange that not one reporter or interviewer has asked Meeke why he didnt just take the win...



Because real reporting in the WRC almost doesn't exist. The Promoter makes sure that anything embarrassing or controversial is never, ever mentioned or asked about by anyone, at least in English.

E.g. in Monte Carlo it was really clear that a spectator had been hit and was possibly dead. Spanish commentators were talking all about it. It was all over twitter. But Becs Williams and the English commentators were pretending nothing had happened. "Oh, yeah, the stage has been cancelled. We'll be going to stage 2 directly. Here's some music." Even in the highlights they spent literally three seconds acknowledging what had happened.

Or just watch the highlights of rally mexico:

Hardly a word said about the ridiculous situation and cancelling the first two stages.

No explanation really of why Sordo had 10 minutes of penalties, but they did show him being informed that he'd gotten the 10 minutes back! (Yay! Wait, what penalties? When? Why? Oh yeah, because of another big fuckup by the organizers you never heard about.)

Try to find the onboards from any Hyundai in stage 7, where they all had problems and there was a red flag (also not mentioned) because Sordo was stopped on stage and Tanak might crash into him. Those onboards have not been uploaded, despite WRC+ explicitly advertising at the beginning of the year that all onboards from every stage would go up.

Hell, if you even try to watch Tanak's onboard from that stage, you notice that the audio mysteriously cuts out a few seconds before the red flag so you can't hear their reaction.

Speaking of Tanak, no mention at all that he had a big crash during the recce due to oncoming traffic. If you didn't read this forum, you'd never have known about it.

Still no mention that there is a situation with the FIA investigating Ogier's gearbox.

Honestly, journalism in the WRC is almost a joke compared to F1. David Evans does an okay job, but that's like one article a week if you're lucky. Half the time you can't really understand what the article is about unless you've already heard rumors about whatever situation he casually brings up. Martin Holmes is good but very brief, and again, infrequent. If it weren't for forums like this one, and coverage by non-English media, most people would be totally in the dark.

Rant over, for now...

[dimviii]

Second after the first two days of the Rally Mexico, Sébastien Ogier is more than thirty seconds behind the solid leader Kris Meeke (Citroën C3 WRC). At the end of the Saturday specials, the Frenchman of Ford Fiesta seemed slightly resigned.
"Meeke had a very good day, it was not possible for us to get him, and we were not ready to take all the risks to play the victory at all costs, It would still be a good result, Ogier assures the RTBF microphone, but honestly we tried it, we rode on a big pace, we did everything we could. Old, or we're missing a bit of performance somewhere for now, "he smiled bitterly," we'll have to try to work a little harder. "
The four-time world champion, who was forced to change his team after Volkswagen's withdrawal last November, has not yet found a spin in the final portion of the ES13. The perfect settings in his new car.

"In Sweden I already had a spin so it should not become a habit. It comes from the fact that I tried however to roll quickly in a slow portion downhill where the back of The car got a little more than I wanted, it was at 20 km / h but good, we did a spin, we had to turn around and lose 10-12 seconds I am sure that it is also linked to the fact that there is still a bit of work to make me feel perfectly at ease with the car. I would like to "plague it gently.
On Sunday, two last specials are to be traveled over 54.9 kilometers. Including power-stage.
"I'm going for a few points and if it could be 5, it would be fantastic, it's not the time to cut it all off either, but we'll have to try, Ogier promises. "It's not going to be easy to win this power-stage but I want to have a few points in spite of everything."
Since this year, the power-stage brings more points, what to increase the interest of this ultimate special?
"For me, the power-stage has always been something interesting and that I have taken into consideration, there are even more points this year so it increases the interest a little. Maybe in recent years, as there were only three drivers scoring points, there were some who said, 'Well, anyway, we're not going to be in the top 3 So it does not help. "Now, catching a top 5 ... most of the board can do it from time to time so clearly, it has brought a little more interest to the power-stage" concludes the Gapençais.



Matton: "It is reassuring to see that we are in the blow on the ground"
Citroën has something to satisfy. Strongly in the lead since Friday, Meeke should win in this 3rd event of the championship. Except for major problems, the protégé of Yves Matton should make forget the beginning of the difficult year of the brand to the rafters.
"It was a very good and very interesting day, and we saw the forces and the cars and the pilots on the ground." We had a frustrating start to the season with results that Did not really follow our expectations, but we worked a lot on the ground because the championship is above all a championship of land so it is reassuring to see that we are in the blow on this surface. , To fight with the other drivers throughout the weekend, it allows, after two quite complicated rallies, to recover well to the mental level "analysis Matton relieved to micro of the RTBF.
"The Tour de Corse will be an important event, it will be the first real asphalt event." Last year, Meeke showed himself to be very So it's a test on which we will have ambitions "continues Matton.



http://www.rtbf.be/sport/football/detail_ogier-soit-je-deviens-vieux-soit-on-manque-un-peu-de-performance?id=9552131

[jparker]

Gearbox is not part issue but one paper issue. No worry Ford fans.

Are you saying M-Sport documentation is wrong?

[Andre Oliveira]

No

[jparker]

No

Could you be more detailed?

[tc10a]

Autosport.com: Sebastien Ogier could be excluded from Rally Mexico over gearbox

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/128503/ogier-could-be-excluded-over-gearbox?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

[Allyc85]

That's not much of surprise, last year Ogier was almost invisible on event highlight as well, cleaning the road for 2 days....

There is a big difference between barely showing a competitor and not mentioning them at all! All they even had to do was mention the penalty at the start/finish of the show, you know, tell the story of the event. And while I'm moaning, what is going on with these boring/drawn out intros? Utterly pointless!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Totally agree re Evans lack of coverage and the annoying long intros.

The official WRC tv shows havent improved at all in recent years and now they are actually getting worse. Even the new Red Bull TV shows are better and that's saying something !

[Franky]

The official WRC tv shows havent improved at all in recent years and now they are actually getting worse. Even the new Red Bull TV shows are better and that's saying something !

Maybe it's intentional?

[er88]

Gearbox is not part issue but one paper issue. No worry Ford fans.
Doesn't sound like that according to the autosport article....

[mousti]

If it's an paper issue, I don't think they would seal it and fly it over to their HQ for checking it? Or am I wrong.. Probably will be nothing anyways

[er88]

If it's an paper issue, I don't think they would seal it and fly it over to their HQ for checking it? Or am I wrong.. Probably will be nothing anyways
They wouldn't. However I find it strange it's just Ogier's gearbox that is possibly 'underweight'. Normally I'd have thought it would've been all the Msport cars if something like this was wrong

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[mousti]

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/neuville-jai-beaucoup-de-chance-kris/

[Rallyper]

Exclusion bcs of too light rear sidewindows has occured in the past.

[dimviii]

don't forget and 20 grams from 206 wrc flywheel

[sonnybobiche]

Hell, Mikko got a win taken from him for having a clutch that was actually heavier than the homologated part.

[er88]

Would actually be a surprise if Ogier doesn't get excluded/ time penalties now

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[psychemedia]

Over the last few weeks I've been experimenting with various scripts for visualising WRC rally stage results, as well as automatically generating simple text summaries (these are very basic at the moment!)

The latest report - for the Mexico rally - is available as a reveal.js slideshow at https://psychemedia.github.io/WRC_sketches/

I'd be interested to know if folk on this thread find any of the visualisations particularly useful - or useless! - as well as any ideas for the sorts of feature anyone thinks a simple script may be able to detect and what sort of "robot journalist" copy might be automatically generated as a result... The charts are all openly licensed so feel free to embed them in this thread if you want to comment on any ones in particular.

[sonnybobiche]

Over the last few weeks I've been experimenting with various scripts for visualising WRC rally stage results, as well as automatically generating simple text summaries (these are very basic at the moment!)

The latest report - for the Mexico rally - is available as a reveal.js slideshow at https://psychemedia.github.io/WRC_sketches/

I'd be interested to know if folk on this thread find any of the visualisations particularly useful - or useless! - as well as any ideas for the sorts of feature anyone thinks a simple script may be able to detect and what sort of "robot journalist" copy might be automatically generated as a result... The charts are all openly licensed so feel free to embed them in this thread if you want to comment on any ones in particular.

Wow, that's really impressive.

[Mk2 RS2000]

Would actually be a surprise if Ogier doesn't get excluded/ time penalties now

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Weights and measurements are like pregnancy tests, one cannot be slightly pregnant

[Toyoda]

Over the last few weeks I've been experimenting with various scripts for visualising WRC rally stage results, as well as automatically generating simple text summaries (these are very basic at the moment!)

The latest report - for the Mexico rally - is available as a reveal.js slideshow at https://psychemedia.github.io/WRC_sketches/

I'd be interested to know if folk on this thread find any of the visualisations particularly useful - or useless! - as well as any ideas for the sorts of feature anyone thinks a simple script may be able to detect and what sort of "robot journalist" copy might be automatically generated as a result... The charts are all openly licensed so feel free to embed them in this thread if you want to comment on any ones in particular.

Cool stuff, with the slideshow, a little nav screen may be useful to know whats up, down and sideways?

I think the "SSX - stage split time, rank position" is potentially useful and interesting, maybe even for the drivers! nice work.

[noel157]

Because real reporting in the WRC almost doesn't exist. The Promoter makes sure that anything embarrassing or controversial is never, ever mentioned or asked about by anyone, at least in English.

E.g. in Monte Carlo it was really clear that a spectator had been hit and was possibly dead. Spanish commentators were talking all about it. It was all over twitter. But Becs Williams and the English commentators were pretending nothing had happened. "Oh, yeah, the stage has been cancelled. We'll be going to stage 2 directly. Here's some music." Even in the highlights they spent literally three seconds acknowledging what had happened.

Or just watch the highlights of rally mexico:

Hardly a word said about the ridiculous situation and cancelling the first two stages.

No explanation really of why Sordo had 10 minutes of penalties, but they did show him being informed that he'd gotten the 10 minutes back! (Yay! Wait, what penalties? When? Why? Oh yeah, because of another big fuckup by the organizers you never heard about.)

Try to find the onboards from any Hyundai in stage 7, where they all had problems and there was a red flag (also not mentioned) because Sordo was stopped on stage and Tanak might crash into him. Those onboards have not been uploaded, despite WRC+ explicitly advertising at the beginning of the year that all onboards from every stage would go up.

Hell, if you even try to watch Tanak's onboard from that stage, you notice that the audio mysteriously cuts out a few seconds before the red flag so you can't hear their reaction.

Speaking of Tanak, no mention at all that he had a big crash during the recce due to oncoming traffic. If you didn't read this forum, you'd never have known about it.

Still no mention that there is a situation with the FIA investigating Ogier's gearbox.

Honestly, journalism in the WRC is almost a joke compared to F1. David Evans does an okay job, but that's like one article a week if you're lucky. Half the time you can't really understand what the article is about unless you've already heard rumors about whatever situation he casually brings up. Martin Holmes is good but very brief, and again, infrequent. If it weren't for forums like this one, and coverage by non-English media, most people would be totally in the dark.

Rant over, for now...

I've always found WRC.com reporting/journalism a bit like going out for a beer with your boss. He (or she) may have bad breath, body odor and severe flatulence but are you going to say anything? Are you going to mention the obvious? No, no point in biting the hand that feeds you. Shame really, but understandable. I do wish they would be more journalistic than they are otherwise they are just company representatives pushing the company line.

[SubaruNorway]

Hell, Mikko got a win taken from him for having a clutch that was actually heavier than the homologated part.

Not so strange if they had seen some cracks in it and made it stronger

[dimviii]

top 5 moments at Mexico ,including Ogiers spin.
https://youtu.be/rKeUv8hOvOI

[Hartusvuori]

I've always found WRC.com reporting/journalism a bit like going out for a beer with your boss. He (or she) may have bad breath, body odor and severe flatulence but are you going to say anything? Are you going to mention the obvious? No, no point in biting the hand that feeds you. Shame really, but understandable. I do wish they would be more journalistic than they are otherwise they are just company representatives pushing the company line.

I'm not so worried about wrc.com being tool for content marketing. It's logical and I don't expect to find news there.

What I'm annoyed about is the level of rose-tinted reporting from the accrediated media whose paychecks should come elsewhere than teams and the series directly. They seem to seriously lack teeth in their writing, because - and this is my assumption - if they'd write on time and critically, they'd probably stopped been invited to places, etc. So normally, when shit hits the fan (sometimes literally!) they just keep quiet. And once the storm of negative response from fans in social media stops, they pick up the topic the next Monday and point out the fans are wrong, we were there, it looked right.

This lack of backbone and lack of desire to bring up hot topics in real time really sucks. OK, Mexico traffic jam happened at night for them, but much of their audience were up in Europe anxiously waiting for news. Even if they'd sat in the stuck truck themselves realizing damn we're not going to make it, they refrain from any posting to wait for official announcement. In cases like bad accidents it's absolutely better to show courtesy and wait for official news, but not everything must be retweeted from the official notice board.

[Rally Power]

WRC is a small and quiet world; apparently there’s no need for a full and independent coverage. WRC broadcasts looking Brits expatriate parties and Evans tabloid style news seems to be the best we can have…

Thank God (or whoever) there’s this Forum.

[dimviii]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/128517

[Simmi]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/128517

Interesting background there. Looks like the opening street stage was paid for by the government and may have been a stipulation for them to step in and help with the event funding. Matton implies the rally depended on it running. I guess the question is are they confident the event will be more financially stable next year?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/128517

Re Mexico City stage:
"If this stage didn't happen then the rally was cancelled - we have to think about that," said Citroen team principal Yves Matton.

Pity no-one knew this was the case beforehand. The criticism was made when we had no idea.

[jparker]

WRC is a small and quiet world; apparently there’s no need for a full and independent coverage. WRC broadcasts looking Brits expatriate parties and Evans tabloid style news seems to be the best we can have…

Thank God (or whoever) there’s this Forum.

I use this forum as best source of info. Split times are the only thing that points my browser to wrc.com.
Speaking of which, I will consider WRC+ only when splits and GPS Tracking are working OK and non-stop.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I'm not so worried about wrc.com being tool for content marketing. It's logical and I don't expect to find news there.

What I'm annoyed about is the level of rose-tinted reporting from the accrediated media whose paychecks should come elsewhere than teams and the series directly. They seem to seriously lack teeth in their writing, because - and this is my assumption - if they'd write on time and critically, they'd probably stopped been invited to places, etc. So normally, when shit hits the fan (sometimes literally!) they just keep quiet. And once the storm of negative response from fans in social media stops, they pick up the topic the next Monday and point out the fans are wrong, we were there, it looked right.

This lack of backbone and lack of desire to bring up hot topics in real time really sucks. OK, Mexico traffic jam happened at night for them, but much of their audience were up in Europe anxiously waiting for news. Even if they'd sat in the stuck truck themselves realizing damn we're not going to make it, they refrain from any posting to wait for official announcement. In cases like bad accidents it's absolutely better to show courtesy and wait for official news, but not everything must be retweeted from the official notice board.

Very well put, especially the 'rose-tinted reporting' and lack of criticism from reporters in case it stops them being invited.

Its like my local radio journos who never ask our football club manager any difficult questions, apparently for the same reason... :rolleyes:

[rayh_mx]

I am returning from vacations, in a while I will give my comments regarding this event from the perspective of a Mexican spectator

For the moment, what I can tell you is: Jesus Christ Kris :)

[bluuford]

Interesting background there. Looks like the opening street stage was paid for by the government and may have been a stipulation for them to step in and help with the event funding. Matton implies the rally depended on it running. I guess the question is are they confident the event will be more financially stable next year?
Well, if you think that their currency lost within a few months approximately 40% of its value. they get money from mexican sponsors and often have to pay many costs in USD or EUR, then it makes relatively big hole in budget. Imagine you have to find 1/3 of your rally budget in couple of weeks time. They did well!, really well!

[rayh_mx]

First of all. SSSS (Super Street Special Stage) I do not know if super, by the way. This has several readings. One of them is innovation, something like the 50-mile special last year. This was handled by the Organization from the beginning, later various sources came up, mainly from local newspapers in Guanajuato complaining about having removed the start of the rally in the tunnels of that city

Because VW gave up the wonderful world of rallies, and that this was the main sponsor of Mexico for the date they had to look for financial alternatives in a short time. Organizers look for sponsorship from the capital of the country, the CDMX who in its tourist attraction scheme was able to finance this with fresh money even though it was 400 kilometers from the base of the Rally.

In my opinion, with so little time and without wanting to justify RallyMex, organizers of the event. This was done on the knees. Either because the CDMX did not leave them or because they did not have time to prepare it as it was due.

As a rally fan, it is very frustrating to be on the mountain (El Chocolate) and not see them pass in the morning.

RallyMex still has a contract until next year. They must work very hard to get sponsors and surely they are already doing so. If they come back to the CDMX, I hope they prepare it well, mainly, with more promotion and dissemination of the event. Many people here from my office told me that they went even when the event had already started and that they could see it without problems.


To be continued...

[GigiGalliNo1]

What a great rally to attend and what a way to finish the rally with Meeke!

Will post my experience and photos from the weekend.

[er88]

When are we likely to hear about the verdict on Ogier's gearbox? Or will that be kept hush and swept under the carpet?

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[pantealex]

When are we likely to hear about the verdict on Ogier's gearbox? Or will that be kept hush and swept under the carpet?

Before Corsica for sure. It can affect starting order etc.

[Mintexmemory]

Before Corsica for sure. It can affect starting order etc.

Nah - they'll make Ogier sweep for the first day and then they'll announce the points deduction! Someone in the FIA just wants to see the GIF of when the news gets broken to him!

[Mirek]

What will he sweep in Corsica?

[EstWRC]

tarmac?

[Franky]

What will he sweep in Corsica?

Mud onto the road.

[Mirek]

Mud onto the road.

You mean he will put mud on the road for others I guess.

[Mintexmemory]

You mean he will put mud on the road for others I guess.
Sweeping requirements in Corsica:
Vast puddles of standing water
Rubble left from winter landslips
Goat crap
Heads of Union Corse victims

Ok, in my attempt to be smartass I forgot it was tarmac, allright!!!

[Rally Power]

Acording to his FB, Camilli's lost time on last day mainly due to a broken anti-roll bar: https://pt-br.facebook.com/EricCamilliOfficial/

[Rallyper]

And you talk about Ostberg having excuses?

[Rally Power]

Come on Rallyper it doesn't seem an excuse, he was surprisingly doing a fine rally till last day.

[Rallyper]

:) :)

[steve.mandzij]

I must say, after how much I hated Camilli last year and how I thought that Malcolm Wilson had made the worse decision of his life, I congratulate him for his performance in Mexico. He wasn't ready for WRC but maybe a couple more seasons and he'll be ready to start off again.

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[AL14]

Why you hated him? What has it done to you?

[steve.mandzij]

Why you hated him? What has it done to you?
Hate is a strong word... What I meant was that it really annoyed me that he'd taken the spot some way more talented driver could have taken, and that he wasn't delivering at all. It was annoying to see a seat wasted on him, with zero experience. Now, though, I hope he nets a WRC2 win soon. His progress is great.

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[stefanvv]

Hate is a strong word... What I meant was that it really annoyed me that he'd taken the spot some way more talented driver could have taken, and that he wasn't delivering at all. It was annoying to see a seat wasted on him, with zero experience. Now, though, I hope he nets a WRC2 win soon. His progress is great.

Taken a seat with lot of unknowns? What if he was (at least) as fast as Sordo?

[sollitt]

... it really annoyed me that he'd taken the spot some way more talented driver could have taken ...Nobody takes a seat away from anybody else in this business.
Some pay for a drive. Those seats are not available to anybody else.
Some are 'chosen' to drive. Those 'choices' are made by somebody else.

[danon]

Monday comes the FIA decision on Sebastien Ogier... http://tuttomotorsport.com/wrc/lunedi-la-decisione-ogier.html

[sonnybobiche]

Monday comes the FIA decision on Sebastien Ogier... http://tuttomotorsport.com/wrc/lunedi-la-decisione-ogier.html

Apparently not...

[Andre Oliveira]

According Autohebdo, all ok with gearbox. Bring it on Tour de Corse

[smsgrafica]

It's official, no further action. Ogier keeps 2nd place.

[N.O.T]

Thank you red bull...

[Rally Power]

Having in mind what happened to Toyota in MC it'd be strange to see Ford being penalized now. Rules are meant to be respected but when they're new, and apparently complex, applying them with a wise level of tolerance is always welcome.

[A FONDO]

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[EstWRC]

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[danon]

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Mexique-2.png

[sonnybobiche]

Something is rotten in the state of France.

[SubaruNorway]

First it's too light and now it's too heavy according to Colin Clark... It's still a performance gain if they made it heavier by changing a part that made them have problems with it in the two first rounds.

[sollitt]

Rules are meant to be respected but when they're new, and apparently complex, applying them with a wise level of tolerance is always welcome.Nonsense. Rules are rules and need to be upheld. To allow "tolerance" for those who fail to comply is to penalize those who expend energy and resources to do so.

[N.O.T]

you people expected the disqualification of the sole car that carries the promoters colours ? who was going to do that ? the old midget or the manlady ?

you should grow a brain...

[Rally Power]

Nonsense. Rules are rules and need to be upheld. To allow "tolerance" for those who fail to comply is to penalize those who expend energy and resources to do so.

What would the series have gained by penalizing Toyota on MC for some minor issues? All other manus agree to let them go with just a warning and corrective measures for the next event. Probably they also know it can happen to them. To be tolerant in these cases is not nonsense, it’s a wise move.

[jparker]

First it's too light and now it's too heavy according to Colin Clark... It's still a performance gain if they made it heavier by changing a part that made them have problems with it in the two first rounds.

You are right, but maybe this is allowed. What are the homologation rules stating, can the weight go up from what's homologated?

[Andre Oliveira]

I would like to know what happened between 2016 and 2017 to people hate M-Sport.... ah... sign the best rally driver in world. Simple :)

[EstWRC]

i dont remember m-sport having a lot of fans here before 2016-2017....

[Andre Oliveira]

Neither haters.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Anyone who doesnt believe or accept this ruling may as well stop following of the WRC. If you dont accept then the whole series is corrupt so why keep an interest in it ?

If you have no proof for your cynical view, and continue to enjoy WRC, keep quiet.

[sonnybobiche]

Anyone who doesnt believe or accept this ruling may as well stop following of the WRC. If you dont accept then the whole series is corrupt so why keep an interest in it ?

If you have no proof for your cynical view, and continue to enjoy WRC, keep quiet.

Come on, most of what the FIA does is corrupt on some level. I mean look at F1 throughout the 80s and 90s. Doesn't mean it's not entertaining.

As for proof, it's just a matter of asking the question, "Why would something weigh less (or is it more now?) than it was supposed to in Mexico, but not in Paris?" There are some plausible explanations for such a finding, but none has been given, and that is a big red flag.

[sollitt]

What would the series have gained by penalizing Toyota on MC for some minor issues? All other manus agree to let them go with just a warning and corrective measures for the next event. Probably they also know it can happen to them. To be tolerant in these cases is not nonsense, it’s a wise move.

I have no views on the MC incident. However, speaking generally as in my earlier post, as somebody wrote last week "you cannot be a little bit pregnant". Neither can you be a little bit non-compliant. You are either compliant or you are not.
You cannot make a judgement this week allowing "tolerance" and then disallowing it the following.
The rules are there to ensure the integrity of the competition.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Wah! I haven't been on here since before Mexico. I have to post my captures and Mexican experience once again. Fantastic rally that was and can't wait for it to be back in 2018!