Rally Wrc Mexico 2017

[KKS]

Splits don´t work on wrc.com
works fine for me

[Rallyper]

works fine for me

No split times only usual timing.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport cars could be found out here with their later development... they have done lots of gravel testing but the heat/altitude here is special.

[leighton323]

All cars having overheating problems!

[Rallyper]

Overheating problems for Tanak as well.

[EstWRC]

like always Tänak has the problems, it will never end

[tc10a]

works fine for me

working fine in chrome too

[KKS]

No split times only usual split timing.
JML (1st car) don't set a split times and all other can't calculate a gap (to 1st) so only split time, no usual gaps

[er88]

All cars struggling apart from the much maligned citroen ;)

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[BigWorm]

If Neuville is pushing, it's incredibly disappointing.

[EightGear]

Lol all cars are almost breaking down.

[Eli]

New 2017 cars pretty fragile eyy? Sordo also having problems with his engine...

[EstWRC]

this season reminds me totally 2003 with Markko, very fast but fragile Ford

[tc10a]

All talking about having engine problems, will it turn out to be a survival game?

[Eli]

All cars struggling apart from the much maligned citroen ;)

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shhhhhh, you say that and before we know it, we won't know how Kris finishes the stage 'cause he'll crash...

[er88]

If Neuville is pushing, it's incredibly disappointing.
He's under huge pressure, probably just being sensible and driving with a margin. Meeke I fear isn't

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[dimviii]

disaster for Tanak

Filter:


Fri 17:04 - SS4: Tanak
1m11.5sec slower than his M-Sport team-mate Ogier and another driver to report problems. "For the first 30km or 40km we had high water temperature - 120 degrees all the time. The car is driving strangely, the dampers overheating perhaps, very strange. I was in and out of stage and road mode."

[Eli]

this season reminds me totally 2003 with Markko, very fast but fragile Ford

although he did manage to win Acropolis Rally of Greece mind you...

[spiderem]

camilli faster than hanninen at first split :)

[tc10a]

Meeke still flying -13.4 to Ogier at split 3

[EightGear]

Is this Dakar or WRC??

[EstWRC]

Evans also having the same problem, i suspect a problem for Neuville too

[tc10a]

Meeke could be slowed down by Hänninens dust. Getting close.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Will Ogier pay a price for ignoring the engine alarms that his team-mates slowed for...

[er88]

Meeke could get held up here ffs

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[Franky]

Is this Dakar or WRC??

It's rallying.

[Rallyper]

Having a spoiler sweeping up soil in the coolers will mke engines go hot. First rally on gravel shows this fenomena? right?

[dimviii]

Bertelli stopped at 9th km

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6l74t2W0AAh-pJ.jpg

[EstWRC]

this rally will be Fords nightmare! teams will get a lot of useful data from here

[dimviii]

Will Ogier pay a price for ignoring the engine alarms that his team-mates slowed for...

for every engine running continuously at 120 degrees there are high possibilities to fail.

[EightGear]

No splits for Meeke?

[dimviii]

@SLefebvreRallye: "I lost the power steering a bit and I think the centre diff is over heating."

[EstWRC]

i understood that with Ogier it wasnt such a big problem as for Tänak and Evans

[Rallyper]

i understood that with Ogier it wasnt such a big problem as for Tänak and Evans

So his usual luck then?

[eddy707]

This is starting to look like a Safari rally :D all about survival

[er88]

Meeke lost a bit of time

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[stefanvv]

No splits for Meeke?

No 4th, but there is 5th, loosing some time.

[stefanvv]

All cars have overheating problems. Imagine the carnage if stages 2&3 weren't canceled.

[Eli]

dust issues & no wind...bummer

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So his usual luck then?

Was the same at VW when team-mates had more 'problems'... its not luck.

[EightGear]

No 4th, but there is 5th, loosing some time.
Yep, and quickest time.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke is back !

[Eli]

& now first fastest time for Kris Meeke this year (& leads the rally for now at least)...

[Eli]

Meeke is back !

shh only first proper stage of the rally, long long way to go, keep your fingers crossed.

[mknight]

Meeke is back !

You mean back to last year? Winning stages when running 10th on the road.

[Rallyper]

Was the same at VW when team-mates had more 'problems'... its not luck.

So what is it, then?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Citroen's full prep in 2016 might now pay off.

[Eli]

All cars have overheating problems. Imagine the carnage if stages 2&3 weren't canceled.

a lot more carnage probably...

[stefanvv]

Speaking about tyres:

Fri 17:19 - SS4: Paddon Some damage to his left-rear wheel arch. "Really, really difficult. We were in safety mode for the first half - we just had to manage things. It's the first time here in these new cars and we have things to learn. The tyres were tricky too. Now the softs at the rear are too soft and the hards are too hard. There is no perfect choice."

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So what is it, then?

Happens too often for just luck...

Driving style and mechanical sympathy maybe ?

[dimviii]

Only citroens didn't mentioned engine high temps.Considering that,Meekes time is NOT impressive,while he had best road position.

[EstWRC]

Meeke only one without no problems, lol

[stefanvv]

Citroen's full prep in 2016 might now pay off.

Hmm, I'm not sure.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Only citroens didn't mentioned engine high temps.Considering that,Meekes time is NOT impressive,while he had best road position.

But considering his start to the season and that he was feeling very pessimistic before the rally.

[Ctesibios]

Any comments from after the stage?

[Ctesibios]

... from Meeke?

[PLuto]

... from Meeke?

Look here - https://rally-base.com/2017/rally-guanajuato-mexico-2017/?ssId=3907&ssGroupId=1

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS4
@krismeeke: "No drama, we benefited from a clean road. A demanding stage, boulders to drive around, but I'm happy." https://t.co/NR1nCN9FN3

[steve.mandzij]

It annoys me so much when Ogier pretends to be humble by claiming he's not comfortable, he had poor preparation and shit. It's just an effort to impress people. He's not fooling anyone.

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[EstWRC]

Tänak just 0.3 down from Ogier now

[dimviii]

Latvala again without splits

[danon]

next stage LAS MINAS - mind your steps...

[Ctesibios]

It annoys me so much when Ogier pretends to be humble by claiming he's not comfortable, he had poor preparation and shit. It's just an effort to impress people. He's not fooling anyone.

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I think he is just a perfectionist. It doesn't make him any more enjoyable to know that though!

[Sulland]

Would be nice to see what Mikkelsen could have done in a 2016 Panzerwagen in Mexico.
Most 17 cars seems to hate Mexico right now!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tänak just 0.3 down from Ogier now

No issues after all... ;)

[stefanvv]

It annoys me so much when Ogier pretends to be humble by claiming he's not comfortable, he had poor preparation and shit. It's just an effort to impress people. He's not fooling anyone.

No he is not. Just facts.

[EightGear]

It annoys me so much when Ogier pretends to be humble by claiming he's not comfortable, he had poor preparation and shit. It's just an effort to impress people. He's not fooling anyone.

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Ogier just has higher standards than anyone else, a true champion.

[dimviii]

Camilli 17,4 faster from Tidemand

[EstWRC]

Sordo way faster than Fords, it seems the problems didnt go away

[eddy707]

Latvalas tracker seems to have started working

[danon]

Ogier just has higher standards than anyone else, a true champion.

skills... standard is a different beer

[stefanvv]

Sordo way faster than Fords, it seems the problems didnt go away

Yeah? Evans must be mad...

[EstWRC]

skills... standard is a different beer

how can you measure when everyone are having problems?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans woooohooo :)

[danon]

I am not measure man

[jparker]

So, why the overheating issues? Clogged air intakes, or bad cooling design for such conditions?

[stefanvv]

So, why the overheating issues? Clogged air intakes, or bad cooling design for such conditions?

Probably the turbo is causing it, but just my guess.

[Rallyper]

Clogged intakes bcs of low front spoiler in combination with mexican gravel.

[KKS]

Sordo good one! Keep that!

[er88]

Sordo way faster than Fords, it seems the problems didnt go away
Evans smashing your man and seb

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[EstWRC]

Evans really surpisin me this season....good job from dmack too

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Probably the turbo is causing it, but just my guess.

Making extra 60bhp from the same 1.6T.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6mEDRQWgAArVPU.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6mDiI6W0AExLju.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hope Evans holds the stage win after his penalty.

[stefanvv]

Making extra 60bhp from the same 1.6T.

In combination with lower air density, yes.

[stefanvv]

Hope Evans holds the stage win after his penalty.

I'm afraid Meeke will disappoint You.

EDIT: But before him - Neuville.

[René]

Neuville faster

[Eli]

I'm afraid Meeke will disappoint You.

EDIT: But before him - Neuville.

Meeke just 4th fastest on 1st split...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I'm afraid Meeke will disappoint You.

EDIT: But before him - Neuville.

Shame but still a good time by Evans.

[steve.mandzij]

Hmm.. I fear Latvala's slump is more than just an issue combined with road sweeping. What do you all make of his performance?

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Dmack:
Great time for @ElfynEvans through SS5 even though he had same problem as before. At least we know the tyres are competitive!

[stefanvv]

Hmm.. I fear Latvala's slump is more than just an issue combined with road sweeping. What do you all make of his performance?

I don't know, but don't ask n.o.t. anyway.

[dimviii]

at least top 5 crews will be with smalls gaps.Thats nice after so many problems and a huge stage.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6mGOf7U8AAUXhw.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

El Chocolate is a one-off in it's long distance so the cars should be ok on the other stages. Fingers crossed.

Hope there are no silly mistakes by anyone on the next SSS tonight.

[er88]

Meeke stalled twice, explains time loss to Neuville

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[EstWRC]

Tänak must get Hanninen for better starting pos tomorrow, the gap is 4.4 secs

[Eli]

Meeke stalled twice, explains time loss to Neuville

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9 seconds lost Meeke said.

[stefanvv]

Hope there are no silly mistakes by anyone on the next SSS tonight.

YES, fingers crossed for a good "start of the season":D

[EstWRC]

Guys from back went a lot faster on Las Minas stage, like expected. Meeke still with some mistakes

[KKS]

Next stage (SS6) should be live on BTSport1, and not in wrc+ :/

edit: or not.... seems I lost in timezones

[steve.mandzij]

Such a shame the first two stages were cancelled... I wonder what the difference would be had they been run.

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[dimviii]

Fri 18:17 - SS5: Bertelli
The Italian completes and explains his earlier problem. "We had to stop on El Chocolate because we had a very high temperature alarm. We had no radio signal so we stopped and waited 30 minutes to get a signal. Then we continued with the safer mode."

[stefanvv]

Next stage (SS6) should be live on BTSport1, and not in wrc+ :/

edit: or not.... seems I lost in timezones

this http://sport.bt.com/tv-guide-01363810618853 says it is live from 3am

[Andre Oliveira]

Problems to Paddon

[KKS]

and big ones (

[svstock]

this http://sport.bt.com/tv-guide-01363810618853 says it is live from 3amrelive of SS1

[stefanvv]

relive of SS0-SS1

yeahhhh, shame

[Andre Oliveira]

tv4 website

[EstWRC]

A nightmare season start for paddon

[danon]

great tune... rally radio

[danon]

http://cricfree.sc/watch/live/fia-world-rally-championship-live-streaming

[danon]

what a mess

[gorganl2000]

seems sordo wasn't allowed to complete the stage

[Andre Oliveira]

Hyundai: At the start of SS7 we have a misfiring issue on all 3 #i20CoupeWRC cars. More to follow... #WRC #RallyMexico

[er88]

20s lead for Meeke then, he's unlucky the first loop was cancelled otherwise it could have been more comfortable

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[rayh_mx]

That is why we need a wall...

and you need a brain inside

[rayh_mx]

I think its time to move the event from mexico to the USA, enough with the charity to 3rd world countries like mexico and Argentina.

y tu deberías usar tus dedos para metertelos en otro lado

[steve.mandzij]

y tu deberías usar tus dedos para metertelos en otro lado
Como diriamos en Argentina: cerrá el orto

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[N.O.T]

What happened to Toyota ? no more fluke results for them on proper rallies ? oooooohhh that is sad.

Lets see if Neuville can win this.

[steve.mandzij]

What happened to Toyota ? no more fluke results for them on proper rallies ? oooooohhh that is sad.

Lets see if Neuville can win this.
Actually, common mechanical issues due to the rough Mexican conditions. It's to be expected from a brand new team, entering in brand new regulations, with little high altitude and high temperature testing, one would reckon. Simple minds like yours would attribute their results to luck, but why waste our time trying to convince you otherwise, kid?

[EstWRC]

so Ogier just 20 secs down from Meeke despite the problems and starting position, my money is on him to win

[N.O.T]

Actually, common mechanical issues due to the rough Mexican conditions. It's to be expected from a brand new team, entering in brand new regulations, with little high altitude and high temperature testing, one would reckon. Simple minds like yours would attribute their results to luck, but why waste our time trying to convince you otherwise, kid?

so a fluke result on special events is a great success and proof that they are not garbage but when they flop due to amateurs in the team its expected because they are a new team.

We are talking toyota here not some 3rd party manufacturer of dog food.

how many times VW had problems on their first year ?

[steve.mandzij]

so a fluke result on special events is a great success and proof that they are not garbage but when they flop due to amateurs in the team its expect because they are a new team.

We are talking toyota here not some 3rd party manufacturer of dog food.

how many times VW had problems on their first year ?
VW was the exception to the rule. How long did Hyundai take to make a competitive car?

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[N.O.T]

VW was the exception to the rule. How long did Hyundai take to make a competitive car?

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I think when it comes to manufacturers Toyota should be compared to VW not Hyundai... Hyundai is nothing compared to toyota from every point of view.

but that is what you get when you hire nationalistic amateurs to run a team.

The rally is still long though, meeke and neuville can very easily throw everything away.

[steve.mandzij]

I think when it comes to manufacturers Toyota should be compared to VW not Hyundai... Hyundai is nothing compared to toyota from every point of view.

but that is what you get when you hire nationalistic amateurs to run a team.

The rally is still long though, meeke and neuville can very easily throw everything away.
VW still is a special case. Also keep in mind that they dedicated the entire team to WRC. As far as I know TGR is also involved in WEC. A win on their second event is nothing short of spectacular. Had Loeb not crashed in MC in 2013 VW wouldn't have won. Fair enough, maybe the same can be said for Sweden, but still. After their results so far it's extremelyunfair to call them an amateur nationalistic village team. They're clearly serious and surprisingly diverse.

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[Allez Andruet]

What happened to Toyota ? no more fluke results for them on proper rallies ? oooooohhh that is sad.
Last time I checked both of their cars were running, 4th and 8th, after some 80+ kms of special stages. Guess it's too hard for a ####### like yourself to understand that the rally has only just started.

[itix]

Anyone know why Sordo is reported as broken down after the first sss?

Edit: ok found it now... I can't imagine it was only misfire though. It would take more than that not to be allowed to complete a stage.

[SPKen]

El Chocolate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BYWKTNf32s

[br21]

Overheating problems started very early in the stage, so it was not related to lenght of the stage. As most of them had less issues in final part of the long stage also. It was mostly related to not efficient cooling package for the mapping they use. Of course in combination with stage (slow, twisty) and weather (hot, high altitude) conditions. Another thing which means about not efficient cooling is that they mostly reached around 120degC water temp and it stayed around it. Some paid more attention to it and stopped or slowed, or changed to road mode to turn off ALS, some just observed it and still drove, of course with less power, etc. So I think teams didn't estimate properly how far they can go with mapping for such conditions and based on efficiency of their cooling packages. Also with such altitude and temperatures fuel evaporates which can cause the problems, especially when not a lot of fuel in the tank. So it can cause starting issues and misfiring, maybe it was the case of Hyundai cars.
I don't know how it's managed in current WRC cars, but in older ones and some R5 cars when you switch to road mode and still try to push engine was overheating even more, as that map was not designed to push. So in case of temp problems you need to just turn off ALS but remain with stage mode. Otherwise even bigger problems.

[Mintexmemory]

A win on their second event is nothing short of spectacular. Had Loeb not crashed in MC in 2013 VW wouldn't have won.

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Good morning one and all - so looking forward to a REAL day of rallying.
Steve - Loeb won RMC in 2013 as Ogier was cautious and came second. Loeb crashed in 2014 in his 'favorite events only' year, probably because he finally found himself under pressure from a driver who is his equal and a better car!
If we had seen 2 circuits yesterday my money would have been on Ogier to have pulled time back when there was no sweeping effect. Amazing to me that Latvala still can never capitalise on his position after 2 good rallies. I hope Kris can turn this advantage to a win AND then follow up in the next few events. Very interesting season but I stand by my crystal ball that says Ogier won't need to go to Australia.

[Eli]

Good morning one and all - so looking forward to a REAL day of rallying.
Steve - Loeb won RMC in 2013 as Ogier was cautious and came second. Loeb crashed in 2014 in his 'favorite events only' year, probably because he finally found himself under pressure from a driver who is his equal and a better car!
If we had seen 2 circuits yesterday my money would have been on Ogier to have pulled time back when there was no sweeping effect. Amazing to me that Latvala still can never capitalise on his position after 2 good rallies. I hope Kris can turn this advantage to a win AND then follow up in the next few events. Very interesting season but I stand by my crystal ball that says Ogier won't need to go to Australia.
It was 2015, when Loeb lost the battle to Ogier in MC.

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[Mintexmemory]

It was 2015, when Loeb lost the battle to Ogier in MC.

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My bad - got it wrong (quick edit) I should have remembered as 2014 was the year Iwas there! Doh!

[rage82]

2013 was Loeb's year with favourite rallies, he has won 2- Monte and Argentina, came 2-nd in Sweden and crashed on the last one in France.
Loeb crashed in 2015 when doing Monte as one off.


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[Mintexmemory]

2013 was Loeb's year with favourite rallies, he has won 2- Monte and Argentina, came 2-nd in Sweden and crashed on the last one in France.
Loeb crashed in 2015 when doing Monte as one off.


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Thanks - see apology and retraction above!!

[dimviii]

. Some paid more attention to it and stopped or slowed, or changed to road mode to turn off ALS, some just observed it and still drove, of course with less power.

Bartek I would expect, that their software, will shut off als automatically, as their temp raised at 120 degrees,and not be drivers choice if they will close als, or continue to drive with raised water temp and als on.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6ncsJWU0AA97xd.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6mxQWJVoAAHcuF.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6nzViwVoAAn2UD.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6n9JyLWwAAWPXk.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6m8LOWVAAABvVc.jpg
http://www.diariomotor.com/competicion/imagenes/2017/03/Rally-de-Mexico-Dani-Sordo-2017.jpg


Hyundai video
https://youtu.be/wOqBEF-aodg

wrc2
https://youtu.be/hhZU0dn9nzo

wrc highlights
https://youtu.be/svEv8Mc7dGQ

[Rallyper]

Good morning one and all - so looking forward to a REAL day of rallying.

Amazing to me that Latvala still can never capitalise on his position after 2 good rallies.

Good morning to you yourself. Exciting day to come.
So what should he capitalise on starting first on the road? Let´s wait and see next two days. After that we talk.

[br21]

Bartek I would expect, that their software, will shut off als automatically, as their temp raised at 120 degrees,and not be drivers choice if they will close als, or continue to drive with raised water temp and als on.

In general software turns off ALS automatically when EGT temperature is too high and it's not considering water or oil temp for that.

[dimviii]

Michelin slow motion video
https://youtu.be/Cfnu3XbcmLQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDy5P4lN7vQ

[dimviii]

In general software turns off ALS automatically when EGT temperature is too high and it's not considering water or oil temp for that.

strange for a factory team.Our mapper have also for water temps and oil/fuel pressure.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6nupWRWgAAVNIl.jpg



more
https://www.facebook.com/pg/timoanisphotography/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1285551071524792

[seb_sh]

Interesting rally so far, I like that the altitude and heat really have an influence!

It seems the Citroen is good on gravel, but let's see on day 2 when road position is less of a factor. Overall it seems that it's the car least affected by the conditions. The Hyundais especially but also the Fords seem to be struggling but I think Ogier is doing a great job driving around the problems. Toyota I'm not so sure yet, it will be very interesting how they do in the rest of the rally.

[KKS]

And what exactly happened to Sordo? All Hyundais are misfiring but only Sordo caught off... and Sordo at start list for today at 10th place (like it will be when finish that stages in 3rd).

[bluuford]

And what exactly happened to Sordo? All Hyundais are misfiring but only Sordo caught off... and Sordo at start list for today at 10th place (like it will be when finish that stages in 3rd).

Start order is decided before SSS. Paddon was unlucky with this as his problems were not is SSS but normal stage that was called city stage :)
Sordo failed to start the car in allocated time and according to the rules, the car should be removed from sss start and you are in superally, if I remember correct. So, he drops behind

[dimviii]

Saturday start list

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6owy4tW0AEefZX.jpg

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/eTHl7Lopnyw

[steve.mandzij]

Saturday start list

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6owy4tW0AEefZX.jpg
Why is Sordo starting tenth if he's ten minutes behind Meeke?

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[stefanvv]

Why is Sordo starting tenth if he's ten minutes behind Meeke?

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Already explained on previous post - order is based on classification before SS7.

[steve.mandzij]

Already explained on previous post - order is based on classification before SS7.
Oh, missed it. Sorry.

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Just watched RB TV & MotorsportTV highlights of Friday... both quite decent and each showing different action and stage-end interviews.

Plus... no Jon Desborough !! ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Starting to rain in Leon. Good morning!! #WRC https://t.co/aPvfD7R2ZB

[bluuford]

Much cooler, cloudy and a bit rainy weather for whole today an tomorrow is expected. High temperatures barely reach +20 in mountains.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport: 'Aero over cooling may have been a mistake..'

Ogier says overheating problems experienced by teams on Friday's Rally Mexico stages could be critical on Saturday: https://t.co/2s306cmh3E https://t.co/ERc1xlIVD2

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Another blow for Evans... :(

SAT 08:28 - SATURDAY'S START ORDER
Bertelli was late leaving service earlier today so is running out of order. He will start SS8 as fourth car on the road. That means Evans has the dubious honour of being this morning's road opener.

[stefanvv]

M-Sport: 'Aero over cooling..'

What is that?

[KKS]

All teams: 5 softs
Citroen: 6 softs
Evans: 5 softs

More equal now with tyres

[Eli]

Good morning /afternoon everyone, 150 Km of competitive action with a chance of rain. Will be very interesting.

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

What is that?

M-Sport engineer: "There are things we can do for tomorrow, things we have in our tool kit. It's not just mapping, we have started this rally looking to optimise aero over cooling - maybe not the right decision."

[KKS]

Hyundai Motorsport‏ @HMSGOfficial (https://twitter.com/HMSGOfficial) 13m13 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/HMSGOfficial/status/840574335953838080)More



We identified the problem on our #i20CoupeWRC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/i20CoupeWRC?src=hash) cars being a faulty fuel filter which was changed in service last night.

[danon]

Another blow for Evans... :(

SAT 08:28 - SATURDAY'S START ORDER
Bertelli was late leaving service earlier today so is running out of order. He will start SS8 as fourth car on the road. That means Evans has the dubious honour of being this morning's road opener.

M-Sport playing dirty tricks on Latvala...

[steve.mandzij]

Latvala doing okay so far! Paddon on his heels.

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[KKS]

Paddon and Tanak a way faster than Latvala....

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@JariMattiWRC 2m2 minutes ago
SS9 "Car is running ok. No issues on this stage. We tried to push. I had to avoid two dogs on the road." #DogsOk :D

[steve.mandzij]

@JariMattiWRC 2m2 minutes ago
SS9 "Car is running ok. No issues on this stage. We tried to push. I had to avoid two dogs on the road." #DogsOk :D
I think he's comfortable enough to not get stressed out but unsure enough to not push hard.

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[EstWRC]

Good time Ott! up to fourth!

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6pNqauXUAEkpQC.jpg

[nafpaktos]

Good time Ott! up to fourth!

for a trouble free run is not a good time,considering the starting position.

[EstWRC]

for a trouble free run is not a good time,considering the starting position.

here we go again....only Sordo faser at the moment?

[er88]

No splits for Meeke?

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[EstWRC]

ok Neuville beat Tänak quite a lot in the end

[Eli]

ok Neuville beat Tänak quite a lot in the end

Tanak just needs to get a good haul of point this weekend as 4th placed Dani Sordo is outside the top 10.

[er88]

Splits showing for Meeke now, he's on the pace

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[EstWRC]

Tanak just needs to get a good haul of point this weekend as 4th placed Dani Sordo is outside the top 10.

thats what im trying to say, he just needed to catch Hanninen and he did that...the others are far away.

[Eli]

thats what im trying to say, he just needed to catch Hanninen and he did that...the others are far away.

yes exactly, this is an endurance event, as Ogier said on Thursday night: "to finish first you first have to finish", they all need to keep that in mind.

[er88]

Ogier happy with the car, but Meeke is on the same pace though which is good to see.

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[Eli]

Ogier happy with the car, but Meeke is on the same pace though which is good to see.

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just a second behind him in this stage.

[USER47]

Nice pace by Camilli by the way...

[AL14]

"To be honest I started a bit too carefully. I'm not used to having a clean line and getting grip."

Pathetic. The worse champion in the rally history.

[EstWRC]

Meeke with brake cooling problems

[Eli]

Meeke with brake cooling problems

did he say? I only heard he said they needed to go.

[N.O.T]

why toyota are so slow ? i thought they were a fast car and they have a previous mexico winner at the wheel...

I am going to teach you some respect, i suggest you buckle up.

[Franky]

N.O.T, your stand up comedy routine is becoming a bit tiresome

[N.O.T]

N.O.T, your stand up comedy routine is becoming a bit tiresome

i just need some answers, i mean toyota won sweden !!!! and they were fantastic in Monte...

why they are so slow here ????

[A FONDO]

Much higher average speed, 96 compared to yesterdays 82.

[nafpaktos]

"To be honest I started a bit too carefully. I'm not used to having a clean line and getting grip."

Pathetic. The worse champion in the rally history.

he is trolling and i want to punch him!!

[BigWorm]

"To be honest I started a bit too carefully. I'm not used to having a clean line and getting grip."

Pathetic. The worse champion in the rally history.

It's like he's ignoring the sundays when he hasn't been roadsweeping in almost every gravel rally in the past seasons.

[dimviii]

Μeeke ss4 incar
https://youtu.be/Tg8pgRH3Mr8

[SubaruNorway]

Sounds strange that the fuel filters on the Hyundai got blocked, how can that happen?
Think I've seen that once on a petrol road car

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It's like he's ignoring the sundays when he hasn't been roadsweeping in almost every gravel rally in the past seasons.

When he's usually cruising with the rally won and/or saving tyres for the power stage...

[satukata]

Hope Latvala don´t have problems with car again

[satukata]

Juho Hänninen has a bad flu.. Long day..

[satukata]

Latvala is passing Lefebre!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Paddon slower than Evans at split 2 !

[stefanvv]

Everybody so far are loosing time to Evans at 2nd split.

[dimviii]

SS10: Bertelli - WRC+ Live tracking shows him stopped at 19.5km #WRC

[stefanvv]

Stage is wet

[satukata]

Poor timo for JM. all losing time. Interesting :)

[er88]

Tanak slower than evans at split two

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[satukata]

Poor Juho!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sordo has had a chilli for breakfast this morning !

[dimviii]

Lorenzo Bertelli‏
SS10 - We rolled in a slow hairpin and broke the windscreen. We will wait other cars to pass before finishing the stage

[gorganl2000]

Sordo has had a chilli for breakfast this morning !

yeah seem he's on a push...very good to see from him

[dimviii]

Μeeke faster at 1st split

[gorganl2000]

wrc radio says lefebvre has stopped

[EstWRC]

everybody cruising except Sordo...zzzzzzz

[N.O.T]

typical dog driver attitude by Neuville, after totally fucking up 2 events now he cruises for podium. A clone of latvala.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@MadsOstberg
My gravel action these days :D Enjoying this precious time with the newest family member. Miss driving WRC but I'll be back soon... :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6piu0dW0AE9zv4.jpg

[gorganl2000]

is meeke moving?...not seeing any splits after the 1st

[EstWRC]

dmack has developed massively from last year, very nice

[Fast Eddie WRC]

is meeke moving?...not seeing any splits after the 1st

Split 4 in now -11.1

[denkimi]

everybody cruising except Sordo...zzzzzzz
are you new to rally?

ogier is not going to be cruising when he's only 20 seconds from the rally win. and neuville is only marginally slower.

[gorganl2000]

would really appreciate seeing this kind of pace from sordo when he's actually fighting for a podium in other rallies...i suppose at this point in this rally he has nothing to lose

[dimviii]

Citroën Racing‏*@CitroenRacing


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#WRC #RallyMexico @SLefebvreRallye rolled in SS10, crew OK

[gorganl2000]

Split 4 in now -11.1

thanks,,,now seen it updated

[janvanvurpa]

N.O.T, your stand up comedy routine was becoming a bit tiresome
about 10 years ago.

[EstWRC]

are you new to rally?

ogier is not going to be cruising when he's only 20 seconds from the rally win. and neuville is only marginally slower.

they need to be faster!!! just look at Sordos times

[gorganl2000]

Citroën Racing‏*@CitroenRacing


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#WRC #RallyMexico @SLefebvreRallye rolled in SS10, crew OK

just heard,...glad the crew are ok...but he's not really helping his chances as Breen is doing rather good on his outings so far

[BigWorm]

When he's usually cruising with the rally won and/or saving tyres for the power stage...

Still pushing on the power stage

[er88]

Lefebvre is useless

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke setting good splits, not far off Sordo. :)

[EstWRC]

how the hell did Lefebvre got a contract?

[satukata]

i don´t understand why neuville is cruising much slower than sordo

[er88]

how the hell did Lefebvre got a contract?
He's French

[PLuto]

Will Tidemand finish in TOP 5?

[Andre Oliveira]

RedBull TV now, live

[er88]

Breen would've had a great chance of a podium this rally considering Citroens reliability, instead they choose the useless Frenchman. Matton should sacked unless he's had orders from above

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[dimviii]

i don´t understand why neuville is cruising much slower than sordo

cruising?

[gorganl2000]

i can understand crashing/rolling when the driver is pushing....but Lefebvre was not even being competitive based on the splits

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://www.redbull.tv/live/AP-1Q84GR1991W11/fia-world-rally-championship

[denkimi]

Breen would've had a great chance of a podium this rally considering Citroens reliability, instead they choose the useless Frenchman. Matton should sacked unless he's had orders from above

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i doubt lefebvre is matton's choise.

[N.O.T]

Lefebre is a joke, if Citroen were serious they would sack him and bring Mikkelsen in, this is a disgrace for the team and the sport.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good last section by Ogier... still pushed.

[gorganl2000]

meeke did a very good time...2nd

[er88]

Meeke dominant

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[Mirek]

Breen would've had a great chance of a podium this rally considering Citroens reliability, instead they choose the useless Frenchman. Matton should sacked unless he's had orders from above

That useless Frenchman was relatively often faster than Breen when both used R5 cars in ERC.

[N.O.T]

That useless Frenchman was sometimes faster than Breen when both used R5 cars in ERC.

results in R5 mean nothing.

Its far easier to reach the limits in an R5 than a WRC, limitation in R5 is the car, limitation in WRC is the driver.

[dimviii]

Filter:


Sat 11:12 - Lefebvre update
More info in from Citroen: Lefebvre's roll has been downgraded to a slide. His car left the road and slipped down a slope.

[er88]

That useless Frenchman was relatively often faster than Breen when both used R5 cars in ERC.
So what, Breen has been comfortably the quicker in a wrc car for the last year or so. Every man and his dog knew Breen was the better bet to score pts here and in Monte, except Citroens bosses.

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[seb_sh]

i like the red bull tv coverage, no jon desborough! :D

[N.O.T]

judging from the gaps the rally is over.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6p2ohSWYAEX6sm.jpg


Paddon at ss11 start

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6p2WyjWgAAHwwV.jpg

[gorganl2000]

big respect to juho for doing this rally...he does not look in good shape at all on RBTV just now

[EstWRC]

Neuville even himself admits he isnt pushing and im being called a fool here when i said it

[N.O.T]

cruise mode for everyone now.

[danon]

switch over to tennis

[steve.mandzij]

typical dog driver attitude by Neuville, after totally fucking up 2 events now he cruises for podium. A clone of latvala.
I don't see the issue. Why gamble away some points after losing everything twice in a row? He's being smart.

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[dimviii]

Neuville even himself admits he isnt pushing and im being called a fool here when i said it

yes he isn't pushing,but is faster from Ogier Sordo and leader Meeke. Sure...

[N.O.T]

nah maybe motogp testing in sand land... ducati revealed an interesting front fairing.

http://i.imgur.com/f0lps2G.jpg

[steve.mandzij]

Mechanical question: is it possible that some cars lose more power than others in high altitude situations?

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[dimviii]

Ogier

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6p56Y6UwAAtQIe.jpg

[N.O.T]

He's being smart.

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yes very smart.... lol.