Kenotec Ypres Rally 23-25 June 2016

[dimviii]

Loix
https://youtu.be/A1XzmnyJAVE

[tc10a]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20test%20abbring_zpsf3vp9q5i.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M7Z2Z9xzF0)

Still a lot of work to do for Hyundai until Homologation. Not very impressive. Lacks on power and torque compared to Skodas.

[skarderud]

No Røkland in ypres.

[Linych]

So! While I waiting for reply, Ive made my own again :))
... for those who go to the rally:
Just download free app "Maps.Me", or use your Garmin or another navigator
maps of all stages is here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7p2p9fuiz3m24fa/YpresRally.kmz?dl=0
Download and open in app

[Andre Oliveira]

Bryan will drive Evo kit. As far as I know, Demaeschalk too.

Botka too

[Andre Oliveira]

Nothing special but at least it sounds better than the R5 Fiesta.

Fiesta R5 Evo engine sounds very good

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fiesta R5 Evo engine sounds very good

How many Evos are in use though ?

[Mirek]

I think most of the engines have been upgraded to Evo already.

[tommeke_B]

Very strange conditions. Some thunderstorm this morning in the whole region, so plenty of water/mud on the stages. Now it's dry and over 25°C, so parts will dry up, but how fast and will it stay dry? We need bluuford... :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/124931/ypres-could-quit-erc-as-it-goes-backwards

[Simmi]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/124931/ypres-could-quit-erc-as-it-goes-backwards

Bit at the end says Tanak has a hand injury and they originally stated there was an issue with the car. He was just testing a couple of days ago so I'm inclined to say that's a bit of BS info?

[Jarek Z]

Kevin Abbring - "What ŠKODA did in three years, we’ve done in six months":
https://www.fiaerc.com/erc-qa-kevin-abbring/

[Simmi]

Kevin Abbring - "What ŠKODA did in three years, we’ve done in six months":
https://www.fiaerc.com/erc-qa-kevin-abbring/

Taken out of context that could sound quite arrogant - but I don't think it was meant that way. Just emphasizing the different development times. Let's see how the results compare over the next 12 months.

[AndyRAC]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/124931/ypres-could-quit-erc-as-it-goes-backwards

Problem is, what is the solution? It has to offer something different from the WRC, and the various national series.

[dodge33cymru]

Bit at the end says Tanak has a hand injury and they originally stated there was an issue with the car. He was just testing a couple of days ago so I'm inclined to say that's a bit of BS info?
Think they're mixing up the Tanak and McCormack reasons there.

[RS]

Bouffier with Giraudet instead of Panseri.

[Mirek]

According to info from PLuto Lefebvre's engine is already broken. No QS for him. Hopefully he'll do the event.

[dodge33cymru]

Evo!

[br21]

Now rain stopped and drying up, just for quali. Where I can find results online?

[Mirek]

Here: http://www.fiaerc.com/live-timing/

If it rained the QS will be veeery spectacular! I'm starting to be jelous :)

[dodge33cymru]

There's one small but very black cloud heading this way, skies look OK behind.

[jacko]

Live results: http://results.ypresrally.eu/kenotek-ypres-rally-2016

[dimviii]

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https://youtu.be/QtSBKXK-6JY

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Clp05ATWMAIq0Vs.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Slow time and an unhappy sounding Lukyanuk on QS.

Bouffier fastest from Loix so far.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Clp5lW_WgAAnmCf.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Clp5-ZGWIAArz-H.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Clp7DS9WYAA5O16.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

See what I meant about Tanak testing DMack tarmac tyres here... didnt seem any point to me with all the cutting and muck on the asphalt.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Clp6fAOWIAAcKHC.jpg:large

[dodge33cymru]

See what I meant about Tanak testing DMack tarmac tyres here... didnt seem any point to me with all the cutting and muck on the asphalt.
Meh. Prove they're good on muddy asphalt then.

[Mirek]

See what I meant about Tanak testing DMack tarmac tyres here... didnt seem any point to me with all the cutting and muck on the asphalt.

You're telling that like if Ypres was Condroz. It's not. There are several muddy corners on the shakedown, so what? In last five years there was a lot more completely dry stages in Ypres than wet ones and normally there isn't more dirt on them then what You can find in WRC Germany.

[Simmi]

Meh. Prove they're good on muddy asphalt then.

Germany, Monte, Corsica all regularly held on muddy asphalt so this would seem like a perfect place to test in competition.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fastest time for Chris Ingram in the Juniors... 2 sec ahead of Gago.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Maybe, but Tanak was testing DMack tarmac tyres the other day in San Remo... which was dry and sunny, not wet and muddy.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck7wI5fXIAEUwnZ.jpg

[Mirek]

Do You believe that it doesn't rain in Germany?

[dodge33cymru]

Also, if we're advertising tyres here, I really don't want to buy any that don't work with mud on the road.... not well suited to Yorkshire

[Mirek]

De Mevius spinning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vje6GEfYTsk

[Jarek Z]

Results of the Qualifying Stage:

1 Bryan Bouffier
2 Freddy Loix (+1,401)
3 Jaromir Tarabus (+3,828)
4 Herman Kobus (+3,934)
5 Vincent Verschueren (+3,980)
6 Kris Princen
7 Alexey Lukyanuk
8 Kevin Demaerschalk
9 Bernd Casier
10 Cédric Cherain

Patrick Snijers was 12th (+7,143).

Stephane Lefebvre and Dávid Botka skipped the Qualifying Stage. Problems with Citroens appeared already before the rally started.

[dimviii]

from official site

The engine on the Citroën DS3 R5 that Lefebvre is using on the event was damaged during test runs, but it has been replaced and he will be able to take part in the event.

[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20shake%20erc%202016_zpsh5fm4sjy.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUIVwGaL1lU)

[rallyfanbelgium]

SHAKEDOWN ------>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-fXmqWz75w

[tommeke_B]

Back from a very nice and interesting QS/shakedown. With the shakedown of 2012 in the back of my mind, my spot was chosen without much of a doubt. :) Lukyanuk and Abbring were very spectacular to see. Seen some very impressive high speed drifts in which they showed total control of the car, something you couldn't say of many other drivers. Loix and Bouffier were driving more preserved/clean, it wasn't exciting to see but for sure efficient, as the times prove us. In R2, as always, the Adam R2 is very interesting to watch, the chassis is amazing, it can take a lot... I'll try to post a few pics from shakedown tomorrow morning.

I did recce of most of the stages today and yesterday. Some places are quite dry, some are wet/muddy, a lot of variety. It will be difficult to estimate where the water will be, it's mostly determined by the height of the farmland in relationship to the roads, but that's something difficult for drivers to count with. I'm quite surprised there's still no bulletin declaring that handcutting will be allowed (if they will allow it)...


See what I meant about Tanak testing DMack tarmac tyres here... didnt seem any point to me with all the cutting and muck on the asphalt.

Yes, no point at all... There's no mud in a wet Rallye Deutschland, Tour de Corse, Rzeszowski, Barum, Valais etc. etc. ;) Not even talking about the many national events where mud comes in the game, also events with mixed surface (for example I remember an event in Austria with some gravel parts but not enough to go full gravel set-up). It's crucial for a tyre manufacturer in rallying to have something that copes well with wet and muddy conditions, if they can't they should go to circuit racing...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Strange if it is that important that DMack couldnt get a car for Tanak to test their tarmac tyres here then...

BTW, did anyone find our the reason for Lukyanuk's green front wheels ?

[tommeke_B]

Strange if it is that important that DMack couldnt get a car for Tanak to test their tarmac tyres here then...

BTW, did anyone find our the reason for Lukyanuk's green front wheels ?

Maybe DMack wasn't confident about their tyres, and was afraid they would do more harm to their reputation than anything else? ;) Snijers used DMack in Sezoens Rally this year. He kicked them off and mounted Michelin on the first service already. ;)

[mousti]

No top crew using Dmack here also Kobus like in Canarias with Michelin on.

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[FullThrottleVids]

Video: Kentotek Ypres Rally 2016 Shakedown + Mistakes --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXOIauEEE3k

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[gianni123]

Video Shakedown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTCnhrpG4v4

[dimviii]

nice video
https://youtu.be/DTCnhrpG4v4

[dimviii]

https://scontent.fath3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13439166_834809426652947_4077751561545210513_n.jpg ?oh=b6982e4a2c6e492b4125e336ab1dfb2e&oe=57EDD941

https://www.facebook.com/FotoLorenzBe-578950442238848/photos/?tab=album&album_id=834808729986350


https://scontent.fath3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13512174_1228653620501311_8778562813647540735_n.jp g?oh=1f52e1634fd445d111a121f1fe99f417&oe=57C0E4F4

https://www.facebook.com/Yves-Marie-MediaMotors-1157306187636055/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1228653080501365

[dodge33cymru]

BTW, did anyone find our the reason for Lukyanuk's green front wheels ?

I think he's being run by the same crew as Cherain's car; certainly seemed to be the same folk fiddling with the cars at Shakedown.

[Mirek]

BTW, did anyone find our the reason for Lukyanuk's green front wheels ?

It's Czech team. maybe they simply bought redundant stock from Škoda works team. I don't know.

[tommeke_B]

A few photos from QS/shakedown.

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[EightGear]

Any Brits in Ypres happy with the timing of this event now? The trip has become a bit cheaper now. :D

[dodge33cymru]

Any Brits in Ypres happy with the timing of this event now? The trip has become a bit cheaper now. :D
Erm, no it hasn't. Quite the opposite. A tank of fuel now costs 10% more than it did yesterday thanks to those morons. I have €80 left that are going up in value as I look at them.

Just means that unless it recovers I can't afford to do it again next year.

[EightGear]

Yeah, what I meant was you'll get more pounds back for every euro you don't spend now. Obviously overall it got more expensive.

[dodge33cymru]

Ha, in that case, yeah, but I don't want to spend anything. I'm in Belgium and questioning whether beer is a good idea!

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClthB3HWIAAGneE.jpg

[dimviii]

surprised by Tarabus pace!!

[EightGear]

Ha, in that case, yeah, but I don't want to spend anything. I'm in Belgium and questioning whether beer is a good idea!
That should never be a question..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Appropriate picture from ERC rally radio... waffle.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CluIu-PWgAASU_A.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Maybe DMack wasn't confident about their tyres, and was afraid they would do more harm to their reputation than anything else? ;)

Possibly... it seems strange that DMack suddenly had a 'car problem'.

Although Elfyn Evans set some top times on the Circuit of Ireland on similar wet, muddy tarmac... but that was with the old DMack tarmac tyres.

[maciotacio]

Is Lefebvre going to compete or withdraw from the rally? I can't find any information.

[dodge33cymru]

Said yesterday continue with an engine change, not sure what road position that would leave him with though, not on top 15 chart.

[Jarek Z]

Is Lefebvre going to compete or withdraw from the rally? I can't find any information.

As far as I know Lefebvre is going to compete with a replaced engine in his car:
https://www.fiaerc.com/lefebvre-misses-erc-ypres-qualifying-stage/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Abbring i20 with puncture on SS1

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CluXukmWIAAxCLN.jpg

[Jarek Z]

Kevin Abbring stopped in the stage and left the route?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS1 Lukyanuk stopped !!??

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rolled.. Noooo :(

[Jarek Z]

Lukyanuk rolled already on the first stage? That's fast, even for him.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

He didnt sound at all happy or confident after the QS...

[Mirek]

Lukyanuk in finish of the stage with 12 minutes lost. Let's see if he can continue.


Lukyanuk rolled already on the first stage? That's fast, even for him.

Many many drivers found themselves in the same situation in past years - Grönholm, Kankkunen, Sarrazin, Gonon come to my mind.

[br21]

Lukyanuk broken RR suspension. If they have parts - repairable

[dodge33cymru]

Maybe relative to those around, but Lefebvre looks like he's flying.

[kubiczech]

if i understood rally-radio correctly , Abbring was 10s faster than Bouffier on SS2

[PLuto]

Stephane Lefebvre and Dávid Botka skipped the Qualifying Stage. Problems with Citroens appeared already before the rally started.

Botka's absence has nothing to do with Citroen, he had issues with fire extinguisher...

[PLuto]

if i understood rally-radio correctly , Abbring was 10s faster than Bouffier on SS2

Abbring is not starting in "zero" time. So no chance for any comparison...

[dodge33cymru]

C. Mannings is ridiculously slow, pretty sure I was faster doing the stage in my car yesterday.

Anyone know where in the road order the Porsches are?

[PLuto]

C. Mannings is ridiculously slow, pretty sure I was faster doing the stage in my car yesterday.

Anyone know where in the road order the Porsches are?

http://rally-base.com/2016/kenotek-ypres-rally-2016/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=675

[Mirek]

Pretty good start from Bouffier!

Cherain crashed out... really bad season for him.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Chris Ingram straight into the lead of the Juniors ahead of his Opel team-mates.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

[QUOTE=dodge33cymru;1098170]C. Mannings is ridiculously slow, pretty sure I was faster doing the stage in my car yesterday.

/QUOTE]

She must have had a problem... Gago also v.slow on SS1.

[dodge33cymru]

Looks fast, surprised at Griebel's lack of pace

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Lefebvre now with gearbox overheating issue...

[Mirek]

Looks fast, surprised at Griebel's lack of pace

How do You define lack of pace? He is second in JERC just behind Ingram :confused:

[dodge33cymru]

How do You define lack of pace? He is second in JERC just behind Ingram :confused:

My bad, not seen times, he just seemed slow past me and running far down the order. I know that's not the best way to judge!

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClufNy5WIAANUq8.jpg


Princen window

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClubjsMXEAAgHeE.jpg

[dimviii]

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[dimviii]

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[Mirek]

Griebel in the lead after SS3.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClusNy7WQAAM1dh.jpg

[dimviii]

Luky crash
https://youtu.be/n2APjuXLcw0



Gryazin

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_06_2016/post-2465-0-11304900-1466789135.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice close times at the front in the early stages and Loix not running away with it... yet.

He will be playing the long game and use all his experience.

[Mirek]

In the last years Loix also didn't start fastest but while others made various mistakes or hit some troubles he continued straight towards the victory. Let's see if it works again.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Griebel in the lead after SS3.

By 0.1s.

Ingram: "Just really enjoying it and not really pushing.."

[rage82]

Luky crash
https://youtu.be/n2APjuXLcw0



Gryazin

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_06_2016/post-2465-0-11304900-1466789135.jpg
Totally misjudging the corner? Seems to come very fast and not able to take the right trajectory.

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Loix able to push more on SS4: "We changed a little bit the car in service and I have now better feelings. What changes ? It’s a secret !"

[Jarek Z]

In the last years Loix also didn't start fastest but while others made various mistakes or hit some troubles he continued straight towards the victory. Let's see if it works again.

It may work again. Just look at the number of crashes we already had, just in the first 3 stages...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I watch the Belgian Rally Championship and Loix always does this and has won every event in 2016.

[Jarek Z]

Anyone know where in the road order the Porsches are?

Unfortunately Porsches cannot keep the pace of top 10 so far. The fastest of them, Van Parijs, is only 18th after SS3.

[dodge33cymru]

Unfortunately Porsches cannot keep the pace of top 10 so far. The fastest of them, Van Parijs, is only 18th after SS3.
Cheers, they're running further down the order than last year, but without the Dumas and Tuthill cars they were never likely to be on terms

[Mirek]

On the other hand these are not R-GT cas but local GTs made under Belgian rules.

[Jarek Z]

without the Dumas and Tuthill cars they were never likely to be on terms

Van Parijs is a good driver. Maybe we can still expect something better from him?

[Mirek]

Bouffier strikes back on SS5.

[JUF]

C. Mannings is ridiculously slow, pretty sure I was faster doing the stage in my car yesterday. Yes, I think she is that slow. Just look at her results in the past on ewrc-results.com. Project #ktrally over before it really started? It looks like that...

[Mirek]

Another major loss for Lefebvre on SS5.

[Jarek Z]

Something wrong with Lefebvre on SS5? He loses over 1 minute.

[Jarek Z]

Casier had some adventures on SS5...
http://www.ypresrally.com/sites/ypresrally.com/files/13521148_832354013563281_734484582_n_0.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClvOT3WWgAARwL5.jpg

[dodge33cymru]

Abbring caught the 00 in Mesen.....

[Mirek]

Problems also for Snijers and (smaller) for Tsjoen.

Funny situation with Tsjoen. His time from SS5 is missing but he has time from SS6.

[Mirek]

Time of Lefebvre from SS5 corrected.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice close stage times but not an ERC battle. Such a shame Lukyanuk made another early exit, plus we dont have Kajto, Sirmacis and Tanak amongst it... :(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClveDR3UYAABZWa.jpg

[stefanvv]

Yeah, I have to admit looks strange for ERC competition.

[NoFear85]

some info about Humar?

[dimviii]

Stéphane Lefebvre ‏@SLefebvreRallye

We lost 10s in the SS5 because of a stuck handbrake in a junction, but we’re still 6th overall, it’s ok. #FIAERC #YpresRally


Stéphane Lefebvre has fought back to fifth place on the Kenotek Ypres Rally during the opening day of the FIA European Rally Championship classic.

Lefebvre lost around 20 seconds to a technical problem on the first stage of the event, leaving him 19th overall, but he set fastest times on stages two and four. He lost 11 seconds to leader Bryan Bouffier when he spun and stalled on SS5, and although he complained of having to pass two cars on SS6 – as a result of running way down the start order having missed the Qualifying Stage – he climbed into fifth above Bernd Casier.

He was then second fastest on the final stage of the day, level with Freddy Loix and 2.1 seconds behind Vincent Verschueren, who notched up his second win of the day. He finishes the day 31.8s behind the leader Bryan Bouffier, who was just a tenth slower than Loix and therefore has a 6.9s margin.

https://www.fiaerc.com/after-ss7-lefebvre-stays-in-erc-contention/

[dimviii]

Loix onboard ss3
https://youtu.be/MCCfmQ842fw

[bluuford]

Maybe DMack wasn't confident about their tyres, and was afraid they would do more harm to their reputation than anything else? ;) Snijers used DMack in Sezoens Rally this year. He kicked them off and mounted Michelin on the first service already. ;)

a bit off topic.
I was just wondering that this "car problem" might be a bit different. maybe they didnt had test car for other days to test for Poland and that was their car problem. Polish test was partly overlapping with Ypres recce. So, that was a "car problem?" There are 6 Fiesta WRC-s in Poland, Camilli, Ostberg, Tänak all had tests, maybe Yazeed, and Bertelli also and there were 9 Fiesta WRC-s in Italy, not long ago, so pretty intense schedule prepare all cars and maintain one testcar for at least four long days;)

[skarderud]

What happened with Kristiansen i fabia s2000? He is 35 minutes behind, as far as i see?

[dimviii]

and Bertelli also

yes Bertelli was testing too.


Cherain crash
https://youtu.be/qn3Pgce6Myo

[Jarek Z]

What happened with Kristiansen i fabia s2000? He is 35 minutes behind, as far as i see?

Isn't it him at this photo?
https://www.fiaerc.com/famous-ypres-ditches-already-claiming-erc-victims/

[Jarek Z]

So many victims of this rally already at this early stage... Here's Diogo Gago from Portugal:

http://www.ypresrally.com/sites/ypresrally.com/files/13536022_10208578332588800_648884812_n_0.jpg

[rallyfanbelgium]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq5siav6v_4

[skarderud]

Isn't it him at this photo?
https://www.fiaerc.com/famous-ypres-ditches-already-claiming-erc-victims/
Yes, thanks!
Just like last year.
Restart is possible?

[Mirek]

Lukyanuk from outside: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEQ2jddw3Gc

If I'm not mistaken it's quite well known place where for example Vouilloz crashed some years a go.

[tommeke_B]

Lukyanuk from outside: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEQ2jddw3Gc

If I'm not mistaken it's quite well known place where for example Vouilloz crashed some years a go.

No. Where Vouilloz crashed some years ago was on SS Wijtschate (or back then probably named SS Mesen-Sauvegarde). This was on SS Dikkebus-Westouter (formerly part of the old SS Westouter), after the straight where he parked there's the right-left and then the well-known jump. I'm sure you were there at least once, Mirek. ;)

For me personally not a bad day. In terms of spectacle it doesn't look like the best edition. The big difference in comparison to last year is less very fast/spectacular R2 cars. Pitty for Lukyanuk, we saw him earlier on the first stage and he was clearly "on it", and on the same pace as Bouffier. Less international crews, but fortunately the Belgian field is better than ever. Especially Casier and Verschueren surprised me a bit with their pace.

[Mirek]

Thanks Tom, I meant this place before the jump. I just thought Vouilloz crashed there in 2008. My bad.

By the way I still have a wallpaper exactly from this place on my old computer. My friend took the photo in 2009 or 2010 I think.

[tommeke_B]

https://www.facebook.com/MaxiPixelRallye/videos/850256905080332/ I don't know if this has been shared yet? Spectators pulling Cherain's Fiesta out of the ditch, some proper teamwork...

[EightGear]

Kobus had problems with their pop-off valve, after changing it in service it got worse even.

Let's see tomorrow, I expect Loix to win quite comfortably again. In quite curious about the Hyundai times, twitter rumours suggest Abbring has been fastest generally.

[Mirek]

According to PLuto Abbring doesn't start at exact minutes and therefore hand measurements make no sense.

[dimviii]

According to PLuto Abbring doesn't start at exact minutes and therefore hand measurements make no sense.

if there was somebody at stage start and watch when exactly he started,we could have an indicator of how fast he was.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClxREXCWgAAjt-W.jpg

[WUff1]

...

Let's see tomorrow, I expect Loix to win quite comfortably again.


Me too, today he´ll really go for it. Same tactics as always used by him, and it works.

[dimviii]

http://www.rallylovers.be/Pictures/2016/David%20Derdaele/Kenotek%20Ypres%20Rally%20-%20dag%201/5.JPG
http://www.rallylovers.be/Pictures/2016/David%20Derdaele/Kenotek%20Ypres%20Rally%20-%20dag%201/41.JPG
http://www.rallylovers.be/Pictures/2016/David%20Derdaele/Kenotek%20Ypres%20Rally%20-%20dag%201/81.JPG
http://www.rallylovers.be/Pictures/2016/David%20Derdaele/Kenotek%20Ypres%20Rally%20-%20dag%201/83.JPG

[EightGear]

Are those stage times of Catie Munnings even real?

[Jarek Z]

https://www.facebook.com/MaxiPixelRallye/videos/850256905080332/ I don't know if this has been shared yet? Spectators pulling Cherain's Fiesta out of the ditch, some proper teamwork...

No, it hasn't been shared before. Thanks for that, I love such teamwork :)

I have just had a look at the results of Junior ERC - 5 Opel Adams in top 6!

[br21]

Yes, Abbrings times are very good. Just one stage puncture, on two or 3 he caught 0 cars so needed to slow down. But the ones he did clear he was fastest. He drives at 85%, Hyundai is with safe mapping, ALS still not developed. Will be really good car I think.

[giù tutto!]

Are those stage times of Catie Munnings even real?

What makes you say that?

The comment she said after yesterday's last stage tell a lot:"I am absolutely loving it. Picking up the pace now, listening to the pace notes more."

Hats off for her co-driver, you really need guts to sit there!

[Jarek Z]

Let's see tomorrow, I expect Loix to win quite comfortably again.

Are you a prophet? Loix leads already after the first Saturday stage.

[EightGear]

What makes you say that?

The comment she said after yesterday's last stage tell a lot:"I am absolutely loving it. Picking up the pace now, listening to the pace notes more."

Hats off for her co-driver, you really need guts to sit there!
Because she's miles off the pace?

But OK, it's good she's having fun and I understand its her first international rally.

[Jarek Z]

Loix after taking the lead at the finish line of stage 8: "Another day in the office. I drove clean and for me it was a clean, quick run. The time is not that bad." :)

[Mirek]

Bouffier strangely slow on the first stage. Didn't report any problems, just lack of pace.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Loix leads but Bouffier struggled in SS8...

[giù tutto!]

Because she's miles off the pace?

But OK, it's good she's having fun and I understand its her first international rally.

Yeah, she really is off the pace. I don't understand why they are there and practicing driving of rally? Why can't they do the training at home and then do a rally? I guess there will be a huge job to be done before she will find the pace if that will ever happen. The results from small events in England are not so brilliant either.

[Jarek Z]

It seems Lukyanuk restarted the rally? I see him in the 13th position on SS8.

[Mirek]

Next stage is the hardest one which always brings a lot of dramas. Let's see what happens there this time.

[dimviii]

Bouffier strangely slow on the first stage. Didn't report any problems, just lack of pace.

road position? Yesterday he had clean road.Lets wait to see next stages.

[Mirek]

First drama is here. Orsák lost 2,5 minutes.

[Mirek]

Kristiansen crashed again on Kemmelberg and it seems that the stage is canceled.

[stefanvv]

It seems Lukyanuk restarted the rally?

He did, and seems paying attention to his notes:
(5 - Lukyanuk Alexey / Arnautov Alexey): We try to take it easy. The stage is tricky and we check the pace notes.

[dimviii]

pitty taht Lefebvre had lost so much time at 1st stage.He is pretty fast


(10 - Loix Freddy / Gitsels Johan): I'm pushing but for me it's the limit at the moment. Incredible good time from Lefebvre, it's new generation.
flash info (2 - Lefebvre Stéphane / Portier Xavier): This one was OK, I lost 1 or 2 seconds at the last hairpin. I can drive better.

[Jarek Z]

road position? Yesterday he had clean road.Lets wait to see next stages.

No, it's something else.

Bouffier: I try to push a bit, but at the end I have to slow down, I think there is something wrong with the rear diff. We have to fix it.

[dimviii]

i am curious to see the reliability of the fast psa twins.Lets hope to keep to the end.For sure they are pretty fast at tarmac at least.

[dimviii]

No, it's something else.

Bouffier: I try to push a bit, but at the end I have to slow down, I think there is something wrong with the rear diff. We have to fix it.

we will see after service.
Lefebvre he had lost 20 sec at 1st stage.Now is 17 sec from leader.

[br21]

And yes, Lukyanuk restarted today, but not pushing that hard, at least now.
De Mevius also restarted but I see Stewards decision that he was disqualified and not allowed to start today because of illegal service, so I don't understand.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

What happened on SS8 ... many cars with identical times (8:35.0) including the leading Juniors ?

[dimviii]

What happened on SS8 ... many cars with identical times (8:35.0) including the leading Juniors ?

stage cancelled due to accident of Debackere

[dimviii]

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/01/66/10/Ypern_Rallye_2016_NM_035_1661076_576ce61d.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/01/66/10/Ypern_Rallye_2016_NM_043_1661078_576ce61d.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/01/66/08/Ypern_Rallye_2016_NM_019_1660843_576ce32d.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/01/66/12/Ypern_Rallye_2016_016_1661203_576ce786.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/01/66/11/Ypern_Rallye_2016_009_1661181_576ce784.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice Day 2 start by Ingram, taking time out of Griebel on SS9 despite a moment in the stage.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

A Porsche 997 splitting the two Opel Adams... power isnt everything ! :D

[dimviii]

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13528356_1807210202833770_8787685745728515164_o.jp g

[Fast Eddie WRC]

/\

Petter Kristiansen ‏
'I'm sorry. Some water caught me out...'

Oops ! :(

[EightGear]

/\

Petter Kristiansen ‏
'I'm sorry. Some water caught me out...'

Oops ! :(
I don't know who it was (Mirek perhaps) but I remember someone saying Kristiansen crashes often... Crashing twice in two days seems to suggest there's some truth in that.

[skarderud]

I don't know who it was (Mirek perhaps) but I remember someone saying Kristiansen crashes often... Crashing twice in two days seems to suggest there's some truth in that.
Yes, he does that to often there days, also in norwegian championship.
Pushing to hard, and a style of driving that is to risky.

[Jarek Z]

Yes, he does that to often there days, also in norwegian championship.

So he crashes not only in European, but also in Czech and Norwegian championship. International driver ;)

Crash number 1:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClyqaBuVAAA_jqm.jpg

Crash number 2:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClyqX9xUsAAHAEf.jpg

[Jarek Z]

Ingram attacks very hard:
http://www.ypresrally.com/sites/ypresrally.com/files/13499618_1103593333041910_2067347242_o_1.jpg

[Mirek]

Jarek, that looks like a place where we were last year and there it's safe to go through the field and many drivers do that.

[dimviii]

https://scontent.fath3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13512015_10154322048284507_2805201664632169048_n.j pg?oh=46feb3f68601facc23e981469b401542&oe=580E1D8D
https://scontent.fath3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13510907_10154322034854507_6839710904059773906_n.j pg?oh=5f503a766b0d9248c5f743bdb345bb1c&oe=58062814
https://scontent.fath3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13466161_10154320550659507_8781800834302186078_n.j pg?oh=27b5bc567d609e453062caeb62618674&oe=57F95142

[dimviii]

so gyus what do you think? Lefebvre can do it? Has Freddie any preserve speed?

[Mirek]

Lefebvre obviously has the speed but he also needs to keep it on the road. Last year he was also faster than Loix...

[dimviii]

Pluto any explaination?

Lukyanuk retired. Stayed at service. #FIAERC #YpresRally



Snijers

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13458544_10207882866242223_8444670582427602364_o.j pg

[dimviii]

Ingram now 1,5 sec behind Griebel

[dimviii]

FIA ERC ‏@FIAERC

Lefebvre after SS11: « I made one stupid mistake in this one. I stalled in a hairpin. It’s stupid but I’ll continue to push » #FIAERC

[dimviii]

FIA ERC ‏@FIAERC

Bouffier after SS11: « I had no first gear, we cannot change down and the gear keeps jumping » #FIAERC #YpresRally


Also Botka had problems with gear lever at previous stage.

[Mirek]

Bouffier has problems with gearbox. Can't shift first gear and has other problems with shifting.

[br21]

We had also shifting problems on first loop

[Mirek]

Great battle between Griebel and Ingram continues.

Vanneste out. Possibly gearbox issues as well.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I was thinking earlier that Lefebvre can win this...

Lefebvre after SS12: 'The road was very slippery, but ok good stage. I want to put a big pressure on Freddy, I want to win'

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Loix SS12: "He’s pushing hard, I push hard too! But I can’t do more, I’m on the limit. I had to think to the Champ’ship.."

Surely not Freddy, you have won every round in the BRC so far !

[Mirek]

Bouffier out, technical problem... :(

Botka with another DS3 out with technical problem on the same stage.

[EightGear]

Abbring is saying Hyundai are running the car like they would be running it in WRC2, including 'WRC2 fuel' which would be slower than what ERC field is running.

Can anyone explain what 'WRC2 settings' mean? I can imagine different tyres and maybe the car is setup to be a bit more durable?

[Mirek]

I think the fuel and tyres are the main differencies. Kopecký drove on WRC tyres in Hustopeče too (to test for Germany) although he said it wasn't the best option.

[Mirek]

Orsák went off.

Verschueren had several small offs in lat two stages.

[Mirek]

Lefebvre out, second broken engine in three days.

[RS]

Who was it that keeps defending PSA reliability?

[NoFear85]

still same problems for psa r5

[mousti]

He would have catched Loix.. Man of the Rally with Abbring not Loix..

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[Mirek]

Eurosport now reports that it's also gearbox for Lefebvre.

By the way Griebel now in solid lead over Ingram.

Hollebeke always delivers... Duquesne and Erdi were also off road.

[WUff1]

Now it´s boring - like a BRC run with two Czech guest drivers (Kobus not counting). And in the end Loix always wins.

[RS]

He would have catched Loix.. Man of the Rally with Abbring not Loix..

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How can we call Abbring man of the rally when we have no times?

[Ucci]

PSA "crap" cars again....at least I was not tempted to give any PSA driver 1st place in pickems....

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Seems Ypres really is "just a round of the Belgian Rally Championship" already... ;)

[stefanvv]

Only 2 Czech drivers are "intruders" in top 10. The rest are at home.

[Rallyper]

So Sadev gearbox on DS3 R5? PSA not able to compare units that are solid enough.
Had Lefebvre as no1 on Pickems, and with material that is enough robust wouldn´t been a problem.

[dimviii]

pitty for Lefebvre.He deserved speedwise the win.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl0Nl5JWEAAW6yI.jpg:large

[stefanvv]

with material that is enough robust wouldn´t been a problem.

May be it would be a problem. Performance & robustness are hard to mix sometimes. Difficult to find the right balance for PSA?

[br21]

It's 3MO gearbox in PSA R5s

[dimviii]

Orsak
https://youtu.be/b8WVHMJNTWM

[Mirek]

Even with minimum of foreign drivers there are several tight battles which will last till the last kilometer.

Now 10 seconds penalty for Casier appeared on the event website but it's not yet anywhere else...

[giù tutto!]

Really nice battle between Verschueren, Casier and Kobus on the last loop! What happen to Verschueren on last stage?

[Mirek]

He spun.

[giù tutto!]

Ok, part of the game.

[br21]

He was also quite sick, so cannot follow the pace of others

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Classic Loix win.

Even when outsiders come to challenge him, he knows the rally so well and lets them make the mistakes or break their cars.

11 wins in the last 20 years.

[denkimi]

What makes you say that?

The comment she said after yesterday's last stage tell a lot:"I am absolutely loving it. Picking up the pace now, listening to the pace notes more."

Hats off for her co-driver, you really need guts to sit there!
her co-driver has no reason to be worried, she drives no faster than reconnaissance speed.

she should have learned to drive a car before competing in the european championship. she's not just slow, it is unbelievably ridiculously slow.
the first time we saw her she never shifted gears, we thought she was stuck in gear. she wasn't.
the second time we saw her she was so slow through the corners we thought she had a serious engine problem, she hadn't.

i've seem a lot of slow rich kids through the years, but never something as embarrassing as this.

[Ucci]

Congratulations to F.Loix.....I've nothing to add.....

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/EbvloTfulSw

[tommeke_B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kj4m23hpvI Hard crash for Claerhout...

[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20ieper%202016_zps9ltuznbi.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgZ2TOkNrkM)

[Simmi]

Anyone know why the Eurosport coverage was so on-board heavy this year? Didn't look like they had a helicopter up all weekend? Quite one-dimensional pictures I thought - I was quite disappointed.

[tommeke_B]

Anyone know why the Eurosport coverage was so on-board heavy this year? Didn't look like they had a helicopter up all weekend? Quite one-dimensional pictures I thought - I was quite disappointed.

Haven't seen any TV-heli either. I think organizers have to pay for it, maybe they considered it not worth it?

[FullThrottleVids]

Video: Kenotek Ypres Rally 2016 Day 2 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyY8NyLbztE

1006

[Francis44]

Eurosport doesn't care about the ERC anymore, there only interest is to take the fee from the organizers and produce below par coverage.

[AndyRAC]

Slightly half hearted coverage - who'd have thought it. Ypres and the ERC deserve much better.

[Mirek]

Also the onboard footage was often shaky and the static cameras were placed in quite boring places (I watched only leg 2). It didn't impress me at all.

[AndyRAC]

Haven't seen any TV-heli either. I think organizers have to pay for it, maybe they considered it not worth it?

So, what is the point in having a series promoter if they don't want to do their job? Because as far as I'm concerned, that is what Eurosport, the promoter should be doing, not the event organiser.
Why did they even bid for the ERC if they only do the bare minimum? I just find it so disappointing.

[RS]

Yep, the coverage this weekend was disappointing.

Go and check out the WRC2 videos on the official WRC Youtube channel for comparison: https://www.youtube.com/user/wrc/videos

[Jarek Z]

Who was it that keeps defending PSA reliability?

Exactly. Just looking at the top 10 - 5 Skodas, 3 Fords, 1 Peugeot and 1 Citroen.
Lefebvre, Bouffier, Botka - all out of the rally due to technical problems. The reliabilty hasn't improved at all...

[Jarek Z]

Congratulations to Fast Freddy for winning the rally!

http://www.ypresrally.com/sites/ypresrally.com/files/styles/medium/public/ieper16_cc_004.jpg?itok=vUi1KBFM

[mousti]

How can we call Abbring man of the rally when we have no times?
It's about what I saw on the stages, don't Care about the times..

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[Jarek Z]

And congratulations to Lefebvre for winning Colin McRae Flat Out Trophy (but he deserved much more).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl3ECk3WgAAJvU6.jpg

[Mirek]

It's about what I saw on the stages, don't Care about the times..

This time I can judge only from videos but for example from this one I agree with You: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgZ2TOkNrkM

[Jarek Z]

Jarek, that looks like a place where we were last year and there it's safe to go through the field and many drivers do that.

I think you can see this place in this video at 1:32 :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbvloTfulSw&feature=youtu.be&t=92

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The best thing about the ES coverage was at least the commentator shut up during the onboards. Much better to hear the cars. I quite liked the bumper-cam as well for the sense of speed.

Fan videos are really where we get the best images these days.

[Mirek]

I think you can see this place in this video at 1:32 :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbvloTfulSw&feature=youtu.be&t=92

Yes, that's the place. Last year many drivers just went straight through the field.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Exactly. Just looking at the top 10 - 5 Skodas, 3 Fords, 1 Peugeot and 1 Citroen.
Lefebvre, Bouffier, Botka - all out of the rally due to technical problems. The reliabilty hasn't improved at all...

The best thing about the 208T16 & DS3 is just the noise they make...

While they last ! ;)

[Rallyper]

It's about what I saw on the stages, don't Care about the times..

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Did you time him on your watch compared to Loix, Lefbvre? You should have. Statements worthless else.
I mean he´s looking good on vids, but says not much about cars abilities.

[gianni123]

Crash Claerhout - Kenotek Ypres Rally 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kj4m23hpvI

[tommeke_B]

Did you time him on your watch compared to Loix, Lefbvre? You should have. Statements worthless else.
I mean he´s looking good on vids, but says not much about cars abilities.

He didn't start at the correct time (at 00 in a minute), usually some seconds earlier/later. Only people from timekeeping and people from Hyundai can tell. Anyway I have serious doubts about this car, nothing had to comply with any homologation, so they can use the car they want, in terms of pop-off, restrictor etc they can actually do whatever they want. They say it's an R5, but who will tell? Maybe the 208 T16 Meeke used in Ypres some years ago is faster than the homologated version now... ;) Anyway in terms of chassis/suspension it looks like a very stable car, good base.

[denkimi]

Did you time him on your watch compared to Loix, Lefbvre? You should have. Statements worthless else.
I mean he´s looking good on vids, but says not much about cars abilities.
if he actually started on time, he was faster every time we saw him. sometimes 2 seconds, sometimes as much as 7.
but i've heard rumors that he hasn't always started on the exact minute.

[EightGear]

Why would Hyundai run a noncomplying car? They seem quite happy.http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160626/0ab6a6248676a1ebca6c781ddb132380.jpg

[itix]

Well if it was the WRC where they don't plan to sell their car, I would believe it but in customer segments I would be less inclined to belive it.

[dimviii]

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_06_2016/post-1187-0-87189600-1466931160.jpeg
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http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_06_2016/post-1187-0-06985700-1466931303.jpeg

[gianni123]

Video Ypres Rally 2016


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNZZPAEme2Y

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/bTdLE-4noDM

gearbox problems for Lefebvre
https://youtu.be/3tlSZ5s7yfo



http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_06_2016/post-3629-0-36681600-1466966708.jpg


and a nice jump
https://www.instagram.com/p/BHEXeV4jgyX/

[br21]

Hyundai was in R5 specification, like they plan to homologate it, nothing extra it had. In fact quite soft mapping and still no normal ALS.
Driver was also not pushing hard.
Most of the times they were fastest and with quite big margin. On one stage puncture, on few they caught zero car in front of them so they needed to slow down.
It will be really good R5 car I think. But it's hard to say what exactly made such good times - driver or car...

[Munkvy]

Just how much cleaner was the road for them being up front compared to the competitors?

[RS]

Hyundai was in R5 specification, like they plan to homologate it, nothing extra it had. In fact quite soft mapping and still no normal ALS.
Driver was also not pushing hard.
Most of the times they were fastest and with quite big margin. On one stage puncture, on few they caught zero car in front of them so they needed to slow down.
It will be really good R5 car I think. But it's hard to say what exactly made such good times - driver or car...

Yes, Abbring was always really quick on Ypres.

Car looks good though, especially in the chassis.

Engine maybe not so much but as you point out it was running in soft mapping.

I hope Hyundai, or Hyundai importers will run some exciting programmes with some good drivers with this car and it doesn't end up neglected like the PSA cars.

[bluuford]

Just how much cleaner was the road for them being up front compared to the competitors?

Being firts on the road on such muddy conditions can give you over 1 s/km. It was clearly visible on some spots as well how much dirt he was dragging on the road.

[Rally Power]

5th winner in 5 rounds and another close fight (almost) to the end…not bad for an unexciting rally series!-)

Congrats to Loix and Griebel. Amazing second day for Lefebvre; he deserved better. Gago was also unlucky at Ypres, but he’ll probably be in Estonia. Glad to hear that the i20 looks competitive.

[Jasper]

Being firts on the road on such muddy conditions can give you over 1 s/km. It was clearly visible on some spots as well how much dirt he was dragging on the road.

Only on a few special stages there where some muddy/wet places. In the most places the cuts where dry. So 1s/km will be a bit exaggerated i think.

[Jasper]

Saw a really nice rally this year. Too bad DS is crap.
Did some fast sections, quite happy wit my choices. More to find on: https://www.facebook.com/rallyimage/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1334723926539490

http://i63.tinypic.com/20tibky.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/2nbx5jd.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/16hk8ys.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/35d2q8j.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/2q9gbvt.jpg

[JTGANG]

Hermann was once again amazing with his Punto !!!! Pity he is not moving to something bigger or modern

[Jarek Z]

Hermann was once again amazing with his Punto !!!! Pity he is not moving to something bigger or modern

Yes, Stephan Hermann was 19th overall. This would have given him the 4th place in the ERC3.
https://www.fiaerc.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/01316005_1182-1024x683.jpg

[dimviii]

Saw a really nice rally this year. Too bad DS is crap.
Did some fast sections, quite happy wit my choices.


tell us moooore!

[mousti]

Hermann was once again amazing with his Punto !!!! Pity he is not moving to something bigger or modern

He was trying to do some rallies with the Fabia S2000 of Neuville, but he didn't find enough money for that :(

I expect him though in his home rally East Belgian Rally to start with the Fabia there.

[dimviii]

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[Luis Pacheco]

I've always been curious to know the reaction of the owners of the lands in Ypres.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsl7xMnNJIY

[stefanvv]

I've always been curious to know the reaction of the owners of the lands in Ypres.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsl7xMnNJIY

Some bends should be fine

[dupanton]

It is all insurance, but I do think they are not always very happy...

[Jasper]

tell us moooore!

Well i ate a lot off sausages and had a lot of fun :).

On friday we did Dikkebus - Langemark (+ historic cars FIA) and Wijtschate. Place in Langemark was really fast (left 6) Abbring/Princen/Loix/Bouffier/Lefebvre did it flat out. In Wijtschate we stood just before the place where Snijers and Serderidis went in a ditch. Strange and dangerous situation, the stewards said they were not allowed the show a yellow flag to warn the other drivers (??). Even when we tried to slow down the drivers the stewards where cursing and swearing at us.

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Saturday we did Hollebeke 1 - Westouter/Boeschepe 1 - Hollebeke 2 - Kemmel (historic) - Westouter/Boeschepe 2.

On Westouter/Boeschepe we did two places on the french side. Realy nice and fast places, first place was over crest followed by a fast left. Here Lim (the driver who won a tv show and now drives for Hyundai) almost crashed. He held a wrong driving line before and on the crest. The other place on Westouter was a fast section near the finish between fields of hoppe and a local pub :) here it was quite straight, but really a nice atmosphere. Before hollebeke 2 it rained a bit, so the cuts were not completly dry in places. We went to a fast right (4/5) directly followed by a fast left (4/5) Lefebvre and Verschueren really impressive here.

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[Jarek Z]

I would like to see Bryan do well too, but I feel he has not quite been the driver he used to be the last couple of years.

And now, after the rally, do you still think Bouffier is not the same driver anymore? He was leading untill SS7 and was second until SS12 where his car let him down. That's quite impressive for a driver after a long break and without much testing, isn't it?

[Jarek Z]

To be fair, I will little bit update your statistics:

round 1 Canarias - 1 Pug at the finish line (Consani), 1 retired (Costenaro, usual problem with alternator)
round 2 Ireland - 0 Pugs at the finish line, 1 retired (Thorburn, technical problem with transmission)
round 3 Acropolis - 0 Pugs at the finish line, 1 retired (Della Casa, broken radiator after hitting stone)
round 4 Azores - 0 Pugs at the finish line, 1 retired (Costenaro, usual problem with alternator)

Wow! This is shocking! I have just realized that both Peugeots 208 T16 (Princen and Snijers), that appeared on the start line, have finished the rally. This is the best result this year:

round 5 Ypres - 2 Pugs at the start line, 2 Pugs at the finish line!

But on the other hand... only 4 out of 8 Citroens DS3 R5 have finished the event.

[Mirek]

Strange and dangerous situation, the stewards said they were not allowed the show a yellow flag to warn the other drivers (??).

That's completely correct from them. Yellow flag in rallying has very different meaning than on circuits. It means that the stage is canceled for every crew which is shown the yellow flag and the decision about it is only up to the clerk of the stage. No marshal can decide on his own.