Rally Portugal 2016

[ZequeArgentina]

OK, so after 2 or 3 years I finally was able to reset my password and back to the forum!!

So, it seems we will have a good fight in afternoon loop, I am sure Ogier will retake his usual speed and I am guessing Paddon will also attack.
Evans should also get back to fight in R5.

[dimviii]

welcome back Zeque Argentina

[SkodaR5]

Hello everybody and good luck for Skoda teams ;-)

[dimviii]

Meeke
https://youtu.be/kbu9Fu73wH0

[N.O.T]

Ogier slower than this morning by 4 seconds on split one, probably some deep ruts on the road.

[arko5]

Paddon stopped :(

[N.O.T]

and 10 seconds slower than this morning on split 2....

[itix]

Puncture? Hope so

[N.O.T]

Sordo flies...

[arko5]

Tanak stopped in the same place... with Paddon

[itix]

Car has rolled

[N.O.T]

Ogier 12 secs slower than this morning, Meeke should capitalise now if he wants to win.

[N.O.T]

Latvala pulled another latvala out of his hat lost 10 secs n one split... LAL

[N.O.T]

Latvala loses 40 seconds...

[EightGear]

Stage stopped.

[USER47]

This is supposedly Paddon's car:
https://twitter.com/SVrally/status/733675578402963460

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci6KCg6WYAAljI-.jpg

[Carbon]

This is supposedly Paddon's car:
https://twitter.com/SVrally/status/733675578402963460

So old picture.

[N.O.T]

No power steering for latvala... he hit a hole.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Crazy stage !! Two rolled.

[AP-Racing]

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13227827_10153611421166918_2022694414198521827_o.j pg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

But great news, Hayden and John are okay. :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci6KTf3WYAAvl25.jpg:large

[spyros]

what happend to Paddon,are they ok?

thanks fast eddie.

[USER47]

Yeah, they are ok, as is Tanak and his co-driver, who rolled in the same spot. It's some weird corner, Ostberg said he almost went off there as well.

[eib1]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci6MGXzXEAIVNis.jpg

[Francis44]

This stage is fire prone. Last year 00 car also burned in that road.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci6M6NaW0AARqaP.jpg:large

[AP-Racing]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci6NHSOUgAExXWV.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Lucky Tanak's car didnt burn too... :eek:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci6MGX4XIAAIGw2.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

PROKOP SS5 On the rough road conditions: "They're worse than any stage on the Dakar."

[bluuford]

This Ford nr 12 does not look like rolled: mirror on, antennas on, no dents on the roof, rear wing in on piece.

[Doon]

Looks like Camilli was the first car to stop.

[Francis44]

We have to wait for the footage, but maybe Tanak was surprised by some kind of warning or even a request by Paddon for a fire extinguisher.

[Doon]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci6NHSOUgAExXWV.jpg:large

Is the 'white' burning, magnesium? Hot, hot, hot! Bad times

[Simmi]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci6M6NaW0AARqaP.jpg:large

Like a scene from Apocalypse Now!

[Doon]

Meeke is now +7.23 mins. Will there be notional times for SS5?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

What's happening with the times - will they be corrected at the end of the day ?

[Mirek]

And now with our dear sporting stewards we can look forward to the notional times for other crews. I'm quite sure they'll come again with some bullshit stuff like always.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci6RruiXAAEIutQ.jpg:large

[Eric]

Latvala over a minute behind.. Im not sure if he can blame it on bad luck anymore..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci6TKg3XAAAi5PX.jpg

[PLuto]

Latvala over a minute behind.. Im not sure if he can blame it on bad luck anymore..

Powersteering problems...

[bluuford]

We have to wait for the footage, but maybe Tanak was surprised by some kind of warning or even a request by Paddon for a fire extinguisher.
The car looks more like has gone straight from the corner (road is up there) and smoke is going towards the stage indeed. So, lets see later.

[Simmi]

The car looks more like has gone straight from the corner (road is up there) and smoke is going towards the stage indeed. So, lets see later.

Yeah it's a shame for Ott. Will wait to see what happened, but if he has just thrown it off then it's a very Ott thing to do. Flash some speed. Super Rally.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke coming quick again... :)

[Eric]

Powersteering problems...

After hitting a hole.. Part of the job is avoiding things like that. Ofcourse, this things happen. But now its starting to be too many "bad luck moments"

[satukata]

Hope Meeke get sordos time ss5

[Fast Eddie WRC]

:D

Ricardo Neto ‏@rikneto
@krismeeke is too fast. I had to trigger fast to get just half of him #RallydePortugal

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci6Ur30WEAAka85.jpg

[N.O.T]

Hard decision for the organisers now... what time do they allocate to meeke ?

[noel157]

No more times coming through for SS6? Very slow.

[er88]

If Citroën deliver a good C3 next year (which im sure they will given their track record), Meeke can really compete imo

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[PLuto]

No more times coming through for SS6? Very slow.

Previous stage was stopped, so there are some gaps...

[satukata]

Hard decision for the organisers now... what time do they allocate to meeke ?

SS5 on @rallydeportugal has been neutralised due to accidents for Paddon @ Tanak, all crews are ok. �� WRC TV. #WRC

Hope they don´t neutralise all times. Sordo had great time on ss5...

[Eric]

https://www.facebook.com/ominhopt/?fref=nf

Paddons crash

[N.O.T]

SS5 on @rallydeportugal has been neutralised due to accidents for Paddon @ Tanak, all crews are ok. �� WRC TV. #WRC

Hope they don´t neutralise all times. Sordo had great time on ss5...

If they do that means that VW had a nice chat with the organisers... maybe we should check their pockets also.

[N.O.T]

https://www.facebook.com/ominhopt/?fref=nf

Paddons crash

more like an unlucky spin.

[Doon]

Hard decision for the organisers now... what time do they allocate to meeke ?

Sordo's time, otherwise its a disgrace

[Francis44]

Such a small mistake with so harsh consequences.

[N.O.T]

Sordo's time, otherwise its a disgrace

the problem is Meeke has not started the stage at all.... so they do not have an indication but i would allocate him time according to the first pass.

[EstWRC]

It seems Paddon and Tänak both hit that cliff and off they went . Hero to zero both guys. Shame

[Simmi]

Such a small mistake with so harsh consequences.

Looks like he was too fast into the S-bend, hitting the bank on the outside which flung him across the road. I'd say we'll wait for the onboard but it might not be available.

[Simmi]

the problem is Meeke has not started the stage at all.... so they do not have an indication but i would allocate him time according to the first pass.

Will definitely be interesting. Rules supposedly say they take the opening pass into account. Although they were going slower on the second pass. Probably the fairest time is just to give him Sordo's time. But then what time do you give Camilli etc?

[noel157]

Will definitely be interesting. Rules supposedly say they take the opening pass into account. Although they were going slower on the second pass. Probably the fairest time is just to give him Sordo's time. But then what time do you give Camilli etc?

I think regs say that organisers must decide on the "fairest" ruling....which could mean lots of things.

[Maurice_M_27]

EWRC results show everyone after Latvala getting time 44.4s slower than scratch. Disaster for Meeke if true, puts him 27s behind

[Simmi]

I think regs say that organisers must decide on the "fairest" ruling....which could mean lots of things.

Meeke should come out of it okay hopefully. They can't give him the time of the guy who came through and was slowed by the accident(s). Either way they need to get it sorted before the TV stages.

Puncture for Sordo. Damn. Could have been worse though.

[dbrito26]

https://www.facebook.com/ominhopt/?fref=nf

Paddons crash

https://business.facebook.com/ominhopt/videos/655318341286414/

[ZequeArgentina]

I think regs say that organisers must decide on the "fairest" ruling....which could mean lots of things.

Not so easy, on the other hand Meeke has now new tires, and the ones who did the stage not. He also did not punished the car as the other.
So even giving him Sordo tims is not fair for Ogier/Sordo etc
This is very very difficult situations for organizers.

Sporting point of view: stop the stage and postponned start of the other stages and re arrange remaining of the day.
But who would like that solution?

[noel157]

EWRC results show everyone after Latvala getting time 44.4s slower than scratch. Disaster for Meeke if true, puts him 27s behind

Hopefully just a load of electronic BS....

[USER47]

Ogier just won't stop bringing this thing up:-D
https://twitter.com/SebOgier/status/733696323115966464

"Really rough. It was much worse to be in front this afternoon. Still, I'm happy to be here because it's been a tough afternoon"

[Mirek]

Kopecký slow in in SS6 after a very fast opening split. Maybe puncture?

[USER47]

Punctures seem to be frequent, both Neuville and Sorgo got one on this stage.

[Simmi]

Sporting point of view: stop the stage and postponned start of the other stages and re arrange remaining of the day.
But who would like that solution?

In an ideal world yes. But I would say when the rally is moving it's nearly impossible to do this. Plus when you have a street stage in a big city coming up and all the planning that goes into that - you can't afford to be delaying that kind of event.

It's the sort of situation where you can't make 100% of the people happy.

[PLuto]

EWRC results show everyone after Latvala getting time 44.4s slower than scratch. Disaster for Meeke if true, puts him 27s behind

For sure this is only "provisional" time...

[Doon]

It should be a notional time, regardless of who was quickest up to the point of cars stopping. Sordo takes credit for the stage victory - everyone else from first to last car has the same time. The stage was yellow flagged on safety grounds. Hopefully the rules say notional time.

[Mirek]

Sporting point of view: stop the stage and postponned start of the other stages and re arrange remaining of the day.
But who would like that solution?

That's completely impossible for many reasons. Are You aware of that? Besides that it solves exactly nothing unless the problem wchich stops the stage happens in few hundred meters of it without any follwong crew already started. Even then it's not ideal as the tyres of the stopped crews get cold. Anyway it's theoretical debate as nobody is going to keep a stage on hold for one hour (don't know how in WRC but in our national championship it's even forbidden for safety reasons).

[Mirek]

It should be a notional time, regardless of who was quickest up to the point of cars stopping. Sordo takes credit for the stage victory - everyone else from first to last car has the same time. The stage was yellow flagged on safety grounds. Hopefully the rules say notional time.

Will You do the same when some R2 blocks the stage? Will You just erase all times of cars which came through the stage before? That happens very often You know. How many times per every rally would You do that? If not how can You justify to act differently when it happens to some top crew and when it happens to some nameless competitor from WRC3 or so?

[bluuford]

That's completely impossible for many reasons. Are You aware of that? Besides that it solves exactly nothing unless the problem wchich stops the stage happens in few hundred meters of it without any follwong crew already started. Even then it's not ideal as the tyres of the stopped crews get cold. Anyway it's theoretical debate as nobody is going to keep a stage on hold for one hour (don't know how in WRC but in our national championship it's even forbidden for safety reasons).

I anm not sure but some events in Finland are like this that when some people need to go out from their home then stage will be stopped until residents can pass the stage and then rally continues:)

[ZequeArgentina]

That's completely impossible for many reasons. Are You aware of that? Besides that it solves exactly nothing unless the problem wchich stops the stage happens in few hundred meters of it without any follwong crew already started. Even then it's not ideal as the tyres of the stopped crews get cold. Anyway it's theoretical debate as nobody is going to keep a stage on hold for one hour (don't know how in WRC but in our national championship it's even forbidden for safety reasons).

For sure I know, thats why i said from a Sporting point of view, but not reallistic.
Now you see Meeke gaining time in last part of SS/, probably the newer tires have something to do.
Very difficult solution for these cases.

[er88]

One way or another, Ogier is lucky Meeke is not out of sight. I'm sure Meeke would've gone faster than sordo on that stage considering how well he's been driving today. He wouldve at least matched it

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[Doon]

Will You do the same when some R2 blocks the stage? Will You just erase all times of cars which came through the stage before? That happens very often You know. How many times per every rally would You do that? If not how can You justify to act differently when it happens to some top crew and when it happens to some nameless competitor from WRC3 or so?

No, but it was a P1 car that went off and the P1 cars were affected. So scrap all stage times, because it will be terrible for publicity if the top cars are penalised when helping a crew potentially trouble.

[Simmi]

Wow. Meeke seemingly gets handed fastest time on SS5 - 5.2 quicker than Sordo. I wonder how they came to that decision and that time margin specifically?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rally-Base is showing Meeke as O/A leader by 35s from Ogier...

[er88]

Wow. Meeke seemingly gets handed fastest time on SS5 - 5.2 quicker than Sordo. I wonder how they came to that decision and that time margin specifically?
Tbf if thats true, he's been on that type of pace all rally

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[N.O.T]

Wow. Meeke seemingly gets handed fastest time on SS5 - 5.2 quicker than Sordo. I wonder how they came to that decision and that time margin specifically?

correct decision.

[PLuto]

As I have recognized, they have taken time from first run and added 2,8 seconds more...

[PLuto]

As I have recognized, they have taken time from first run and added 2,8 seconds more...

Sorry, this times only for Meeke and Camilli.

[PLuto]

correct decision.

No. It is wrong decision. Meeke should receive time of Sordo and Camilli time of Ostberg.

[wia5958]

Seems fair theyve obviously worked out an average of time loss from the first run from the cars that passed and allocated meeke his time on this basis. Mr ogier wont be happy. But if i recall he got a time in a similiar fashion not so long ago so he cant complain really

[Mirek]

Artifficial stage victory is wrong no matter how they came to the conclusion.

Meanwhile Kopecký going slowly through another stage. That is clearly some major issue, broken driveshaft or something similar.

EDIT: Kopecký with two punctures but only one spare wheel. He is going to retire most likely.

[Simmi]

Meanwhile Kopecký going slowly through another stage. That is clearly some major issue, broken driveshaft or something similar.

Double puncture. Only one spare so might be game over for today.

[N.O.T]

No. It is wrong decision. Meeke should receive time of Sordo and Camilli time of Ostberg.

I think they calculated how much time the WRC drivers were slower than their first pass and gave meeke the time, in any case if the rally is won or lost by a few seconds then we can see if it was unfair or not.

[PLuto]

Seems fair theyve obviously worked out an average of time loss from the first run from the cars that passed and allocated meeke his time on this basis. Mr ogier wont be happy. But if i recall he got a time in a similiar fashion not so long ago so he cant complain really

If you are giving notional time, you need to make it as fair as possible for everyone. To be fair, they should give to Meeke time of Sordo or Ogier or something between. But giving him better time than drivers set on the stage is total nonsense...

[PLuto]

I think they calculated how much time the WRC drivers were slower than their first pass and gave meeke the time, in any case if the rally is won or lost by a few seconds then we can see if it was unfair or not.

It is not important what will be at the end of the rally. This time IS unfair. Of course, any notional time cannot be 100% correct, but this is again one of the failure of the stewards on the rally...

[Simmi]

If you are giving notional time, you need to make it as fair as possible for everyone. To be fair, they should give to Meeke time of Sordo or Ogier or something between. But giving him better time than drivers set on the stage is total nonsense...

Calling something 'fair' in this case is subjective. Meeke could argue that his pace during the day warranted that time. I do kind of agree that handing someone a quickest time they didn't set does seem a bit unjust. Meeke could have thrown it off like Paddon and Tanak so at the end of the day no solution is perfect. We can't predict the future. So there is no 'fair'.

In the stewards' defense at least they have tried to apply some logic to the situation.

[marcosg]

don't forget he gained an advantage already by saving his tyres...

best time is not correct....

[EstWRC]

Some Estonians spoke to Raigo and this is what happened: in the left hander it lifted the car to the other side and they hit a stone and lost a wheel. They landed just 1.5m from Paddon. Everything g was on fire so they dragged the car with hands away from paddons car about 5 meters.

[mousti]

Video of Paddon going off..

https://www.facebook.com/TACrally/videos/1011001758978965/

[rayh_mx]

Sorry, this times only for Meeke and Camilli.

2.8 segs plus to ss2 time to Tidemand, Al Qassimi, Al Rahi, Sunninen

[wia5958]

I no its not the same situation as ogier being given 31 seconds in wales last year as he was in the stage and slowed to pass neuville. After his crash a time equal of sordos probably would of been the fairest outcome. But its the decision the stewarts have reached no amount of complaining will change it. Lets just enjoy the rest of this rally and move on

[noel157]

City stages broadcast now live: http://cricfree.tv/bt-sport-2-live-stream-2

[bluuford]

Some Estonians spoke to Raigo and this is what happened: in the left hander it lifted the car to the other side and they hit a stone and lost a wheel. They landed just 1.5m from Paddon. Everything g was on fire so they dragged the car with hands away from paddons car about 5 meters.
This is a big failiure by stewards. In case of forest fire, stage should have been immediately stopped and other cars stopped before reching to the scene. This is damn eucalypt forest that burns like gunpowder, they should know that? Imagine cars going through the forrest while it is burning and then spectators in the forrest who want to escape along the road while cars are still driving in competitive mode. Luckily nothing worse happened. This topic in such rallies and in such forrest must be more carefully adressed.

[dimviii]

Neuville ss7

http://www.ewrc-results.com/quickp/27503_ci6e8n8xaaelgvt.jpg

Sordo ss7

http://www.ewrc-results.com/quickp/27503_ci6f5xcweaeyiuk.jpg

[noel157]

I think John the view is from a chopper, the camera is moving, the rotor noise.....
And the stage is all cobbles....

[Franky]

This is a big failiure by stewards. In case of forest fire, stage should have been immediately stopped and other cars stopped before reching to the scene. This is damn eucalypt forest that burns like gunpowder, they should know that? Imagine cars going through the forrest while it is burning and then spectators in the forrest who want to escape along the road while cars are still driving in competitive mode. Luckily nothing worse happened. This topic in such rallies and in such forrest must be more carefully adressed.

But think from the money hungry promoter view. All that press! For free.

On a serious note, couldn't agree more.

[Simmi]

Tanak announces he won't restart tomorrow. I wonder what the damage was?

[Oliverk]

Tanak announces he won't restart tomorrow. I wonder what the damage was?

Rollcage damage obvious from pictures and from Raigos words.

[dimviii]

Tanak announces he won't restart tomorrow. I wonder what the damage was?

strange,doesnt seem so much .Maybe at Raigos feet place there is damage at cage.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci6RjcVWkAA_doB.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci6MGXzXEAIVNis.jpg

[noel157]

Stewards decision on SS5:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci6v4vVXEAAIzQi.jpg

[dimviii]

surprise for me Fuchs times compared even to Tidemand. Nice!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci65rFWXEAAiG5A.jpg



borl video day1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCpISz0uuxA

[Francis44]

This is a big failiure by stewards. In case of forest fire, stage should have been immediately stopped and other cars stopped before reching to the scene. This is damn eucalypt forest that burns like gunpowder, they should know that? Imagine cars going through the forrest while it is burning and then spectators in the forrest who want to escape along the road while cars are still driving in competitive mode. Luckily nothing worse happened. This topic in such rallies and in such forrest must be more carefully adressed.

Relax, everything was well controlled by the organizers, firefighters were quickly on scene and according to some friends also on the scene there is a road immediately below and the fire danger could easily by contained. Also as soon as the organizers knew what happened they stopped the stage. Dont be so quick to judge.

[Mintexmemory]

surprise for me Fuchs times compared even to Tidemand. Nice!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci65rFWXEAAiG5A.jpg

borl video day1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCpISz0uuxA

No surprise to me - Fuchs has been improving steadily since going R5 and has started adding speed to his PWRC consistency. Good guy too!
On the subject of Meeke without even a posted split to go on, previous stage performance was the only way to assess the time to be given.

[Mirek]

surprise for me Fuchs times compared even to Tidemand. Nice!

Also Ptaszek. Not so long time a go people were joking about him but his progress has been really fast.

[dimviii]

i want a free trouble fiesta for Evans tomorrow.I want to fight with Tidemand.
Do we know what was the problem at Evans fiesta today? Something sure,not Evans quotes about ''maybe broken rear roll bar''

[Francis44]

Evans is now on live tv doing the sss without a tyre on the back left wheel.

[Simmi]

i want a free trouble fiesta for Evans tomorrow.I want to fight with Tidemand.
Do we know what was the problem at Evans fiesta today? Something sure,not Evans quotes about ''maybe broken rear roll bar''

Clearly there was something broken on the car. It was rolling around massively and forced the tyre off the rim on the SSS.

[dimviii]

Lemons for 1st day to
Mikkelsen with no troubles is almost 1 minute behind Meeke. At last rallies no progress.
Neuville for obvious reasons.Tarmac Sordo faster fair and square,even when counting for points.So even with no points anxiety and good road position,there is no speed.
Paddon,definetely driver error from video.Even if he wasnt out of road and had a spin,he would have a big damage hearing the loud bang at video.
Ostberg he is faster only from Camilli for just 3,7 sec.The joke with no proper car he started from citroen,nobody believes it.
Latvala sadly will not be a champion ever. He cant take advantage when Ogier isnt fast.These times are very few,and he will screwed it.
Tanak same way.He has to do something.Last years he hadnt chances.Now he has and he keep crashing as before some years.

Oranges
for Meeke sure.
Ogier too,keeping calm when he cant be fast.
Sordo fast and with no errors at a surface we havent see him excel.

[dimviii]

Clearly there was something broken on the car. It was rolling around massively and forced the tyre off the rim on the SSS.

havent see the live,but for sure cant be his car ok. Suddenly cant Fuchs be faster,or Suarez faster at stages.
I am sure they will fix it. Malcolm suffers seeing Skodas 1-2 till now.

[dimviii]

Paddons crash from another angle.Big error.
https://youtu.be/J9fvTH_uWig

[dimviii]

fire from Heli
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p_m79bwKZw&feature=youtu.be

[Oliverk]

Paddons crash from another angle.Big error.
https://youtu.be/J9fvTH_uWig

Wheres the big error. Car just got airborne in a rut.

[dimviii]

Wheres the big error. Car just got airborne in a rut.
from same rut drove Ogier.

[GravelBen]

Wheres the big error. Car just got airborne in a rut.

Small error, big consequences. :(

He said there was a big hole in the left-hander that wasn't there on the first run through.

[Oliverk]

from same rut drove Ogier.

Yes, and he had 4 wheels in the air also but managed to save it.

[dimviii]

Yes, and he had 4 wheels in the air also but managed to save it.

yes like Sordo with same car and even faster times from Paddon.

Paddon doesnt need excuses.Errors are part of the game when pushing with not ok car.

[dimviii]

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13227369_981673891869899_6111658796683591468_o.jpg


Henning

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13217573_10153774014002987_5003092976626316937_o.j pg


https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13227375_619305781576608_6434164967032086810_o.jpg

[Mirek]

That looks like from an action movie.

[dimviii]

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[Sulland]

What happened to father and son Solberg today?
stepson Tidemand was ahead of Henning when he stopped. Not bad.

[dimviii]

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[dimviii]

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[Mirek]

Both were quite big crashes, not just some touch of the rocks...

[dimviii]

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13227799_272804136389507_3194406523394786019_o.jpg
https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13217582_272804209722833_5529297610455512069_o.jpg

[dimviii]

https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13254621_1692045097736139_35801163359887652_n.jpg? oh=db8fbd7eef398e575a1e7d1e1276f1ca&oe=57D03EC6

[bowler]

.. maybe we should check their pockets also.

A most inappropriate comment. Not acceptable in any way.

[dimviii]

what a photo!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci7FOxJW0AAJ-Z4.jpg:large

[stefanvv]

Do we know what was the problem at Evans fiesta today?

I think it was reported clutch problem of some kind.

[stefanvv]

Yes, and he had 4 wheels in the air also but managed to save it.

Big cuts sometimes impose such risks. Ogier's driving style doesn't require them.

[dimviii]

Finn spectators find rivals.

https://youtu.be/Flbhnvajo4E

[dimviii]

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[Rallyper]

Bad feeling seeing this burnt wreck, reminding of other worse accident 30 yrs ago. This could also have ended much worse.

Clear that extra hard pushing from Paddon made this outcome.

[Francis44]

Finn spectators find rivals.

https://youtu.be/Flbhnvajo4E

Good job trying to save the car. Some even managed to find a hose I dont know from where though :D.

[bowler]

portugese fire guys on site

[dimviii]

Ηenning explaining to Malcolm how he saved his car.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci7bUfmWYAIjZnX.jpg:large



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci7doksWkAEnzZL.jpg

[EstWRC]

Just read Paddon's and Tanak's statements and both are saying exactly the same. some concrete had came out of the gravel and it just airlifted their car to the cliff and that was it. :(

[Kielder]

Today I managed to see four stages, both Caminha and Viana twice. Although, really hard day to watch the rally out of spectator zones. Some pics from those stages:

http://i64.tinypic.com/2cndsap.jpg
http://i68.tinypic.com/2nbvhjn.jpg
http://i63.tinypic.com/6f6no3.jpg
http://i67.tinypic.com/otzxu0.jpg
http://i68.tinypic.com/33dl0qq.jpg
http://i67.tinypic.com/an0kki.jpg

RIP chasis #5 Hyndai i20 WRC'16

Amazing driving by Meeke and Veiby (that boy has really big balls, shame of that puncture). You'll see soon a video of what Meeke did...

[dimviii]

wow!!!

Elfyn Evans said:

“We’re not 100 percent sure what the issue is but I don’t have the feeling that I normally have with the car. I’m just not getting the performance that I usually get from the Fiesta so the guys will have a look in service and hopefully we can find the culprit.

“It’s not normal to feel as though we are driving okay and have the guys that we have around us and Pontus [Tidemand] so far in front. He’s driving well for sure, but if I can beat him on his home turf in Sweden then it doesn’t make sense to not be beating him here!”

[hari]

Gallery Thursday & Friday:
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_wrc_rallye_de_portugal_2016.html

http://www.ir7.at/por16.jpg

[Kielder]

You can see what I said before at the end of the video. He reaches that narrow spot about 130/140km/h. I believe there will be some recordings closer to the little jump. You can see what it was hearing people and watching their faces:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smJQKoJ90F8

[PLuto]

This is a big failiure by stewards. In case of forest fire, stage should have been immediately stopped and other cars stopped before reching to the scene. This is damn eucalypt forest that burns like gunpowder, they should know that? Imagine cars going through the forrest while it is burning and then spectators in the forrest who want to escape along the road while cars are still driving in competitive mode. Luckily nothing worse happened. This topic in such rallies and in such forrest must be more carefully adressed.

This is one of the things which I dont like - there is crashed car, burning, fire and smoke everywhere and nobody is interested. Everybody is taking care about themselves, nobody stops on the place of accident to check if anybody needs help (with exception of Tanak, but I am sure it was not his intention to stop there)...

[PLuto]

Relax, everything was well controlled by the organizers, firefighters were quickly on scene and according to some friends also on the scene there is a road immediately below and the fire danger could easily by contained. Also as soon as the organizers knew what happened they stopped the stage. Dont be so quick to judge.

For sure that is not true. Accident happened at 15:50. They have stopped the rally at 16:00, 10 minutes later. And they didnt show yellow flag to any of the crew, they have left them to do the stage normally until the finish... From perspective of normal people who are not rally fans this is a big failure...

[EightGear]

everybody is taking care about themselves, nobody stops on the place of accident to check if anybody needs help (with exception of tanak,

Lol!

[dimviii]

Tanaks crash from another angle
https://youtu.be/3R_eIk1EvJc

[bugwrx]

wtf .. theres really nothing Tänak could have done different to avoid this. Just a huge hole with a rock in there, massive impact with it.

Such a shame .. thinking that, spectators should have been even warning him or something, considering that theres Paddons car in flames also ..

[Luis Pacheco]

Tanaks crash from another angle
https://youtu.be/3R_eIk1EvJc

Only in Portugal, they say :)

[leighton323]

This is the second time Hayden has been in an incident where the car has burnt out. Back when he was only 18 his Evo 4 also caught fire at a local NZ rally.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160520/0512fec05f69a87d3d297f439b7abe1a.jpg

[Zeakiwi]

Is there any photo/video of Ogier at the same place as Paddon's/ Tanak's accidents.
Is the VW shock absorber valving different to Hyundai? Does the VW - motor have more torque and better brakes so Ogier does not have to take as bigger cuts?

[Francis44]

For sure that is not true. Accident happened at 15:50. They have stopped the rally at 16:00, 10 minutes later. And they didnt show yellow flag to any of the crew, they have left them to do the stage normally until the finish... From perspective of normal people who are not rally fans this is a big failure...

Were you there?! Did you see how the fire developed in those 10 minutes?!
Im sure stewarts were focused on getting everyone safe and trying to control the fire. 10 minutes is not that much time.

[bluuford]

Were you there?! Did you see how the fire developed in those 10 minutes?!
Im sure stewarts were focused on getting everyone safe and trying to control the fire. 10 minutes is not that much time.

Thisis not excuse. Forrest fire in such bushes=stop immediately all kind of traffic way before incident. That mean not just yellow flag. If you look heli footage form Tänak scene, it does not look like controlled fire. Such things can go out of control very easily in seconds. What I want to say is that theys should lear from it not to repeat such a horror movie thing.

Look at Ostber on the same spot: https://twitter.com/romps22/status/733761504089153537
He passed the scene 2 minutes later and there is a big smoke already. That means, Mikkelsen+4 minutes, Sordo +6 minutes, Latvala +8 minutes, Tänak +10 minutes.. until Prokop +18 minutes all passed this spot in competitive mode

And spectators in spot tell that Ogier was saved by the fact that he was cutting more, that lifted all his fou feels in air and maybe also superior VW suspension helped to saved him.

[RS]

Kopecky will restart today.

Stupid and frustrating to have to retire without any technical problem or accident.

[Rallyper]

Why Kopecky retired then?

[WUff1]

Why Kopecky retired then?

Too many punctures and too few spare tyres.

[EstWRC]

I'll take my words back about Paddon and Tänak like it was a driving mistakes by both. Not their fault at all IMO.

[bluuford]

I was just wondering as Pluto did.. Ostberg drives by, 1/5th of Hyundai is on the road, lines go off the road and black smoke is coming from the spot. Seems like all is perfectly Ok?

[Francis44]

I was just wondering as Pluto did.. Ostberg drives by, 1/5th of Hyundai is on the road, lines go off the road and black smoke is coming from the spot. Seems like all is perfectly Ok?

This is why I keen on the introduction of some kind of yellow onboard flag system. What happened to that project of a screen inside the car showing a yellow sign on all cars at the same time. I remember it was talked a few years back but have they abandoned it? This would stop such behavior, all cars have the warning at the same time and those who dont stop at crash scenes are disqualified/penalized.

[dimviii]

Henning after crash
https://youtu.be/B6j9qk_R5v4

[dimviii]

are we ready?

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[Zeakiwi]

This is why I keen on the introduction of some kind of yellow onboard flag system. What happened to that project of a screen inside the car showing a yellow sign on all cars at the same time. I remember it was talked a few years back but have they abandoned it? This would stop such behavior, all cars have the warning at the same time and those who dont stop at crash scenes are disqualified/penalized.

The Rally Safe system does have a warning system. The Dakar system when it is working is effective too.
https://youtu.be/iDWseIQE42U (there are a few videos for intro to the system)

[Rallyper]

Too many punctures and too few spare tyres.

Ok. Thanks.

[AL14]

Thisis not excuse. Forrest fire in such bushes=stop immediately all kind of traffic way before incident. That mean not just yellow flag. If you look heli footage form Tänak scene, it does not look like controlled fire. Such things can go out of control very easily in seconds. What I want to say is that theys should lear from it not to repeat such a horror movie thing.

Look at Ostber on the same spot: https://twitter.com/romps22/status/733761504089153537
He passed the scene 2 minutes later and there is a big smoke already. That means, Mikkelsen+4 minutes, Sordo +6 minutes, Latvala +8 minutes, Tänak +10 minutes.. until Prokop +18 minutes all passed this spot in competitive mode

And spectators in spot tell that Ogier was saved by the fact that he was cutting more, that lifted all his fou feels in air and maybe also superior VW suspension helped to saved him.
Of course you are right. Look at Tanak's incident video. There is a fire close to where he landed. He could have died, and so other people if, let's say, the wind increased... as other said everything could happen in this cases.

[dimviii]

MICHELIN Motorsport ‏@michelin_sport

#Tyre info: All #WRC Michelin drivers with 5 LTX S4 except Latvala with 2H+3S #RallyPortugal

[AL14]

This is why Hayden Paddon will be a great WRC driver, and hopefully world champion:

Thanks everyone for all the messages of support - we have the best fans through the good and the bad times! A lot of homework and study has already taken place to learn from this and to start preparing for Sardenia. This video clearly shows how the car jumped out of the rut and what I have to learn from this is how to indentify developing rough sections of stages from the recce when the road is undamaged. So lessons learnt and will make sure I don't make this mistake again. In the meantime the team is in a good position with Dani and Thierry going strong so lets hope for a good result. On a more positive note - its an honour yesterday we were awarded South Canterbury sports person of the year - big thanks to everyone at home and sorry we couldn't make it.

Spot the difference between him and the "unlucky" guys...

[PLuto]

Were you there?! Did you see how the fire developed in those 10 minutes?!
Im sure stewarts were focused on getting everyone safe and trying to control the fire. 10 minutes is not that much time.

For me is enough to see pictures and videos, when Tänak is arriving to the place of scene. Sorry, there is no excuse...

[dimviii]

Μikkelsen targets Sordo ,faster at 1st split

[PLuto]

Too many punctures and too few spare tyres.

It is quite big risk to go only with one spare wheel, especially when there were so many punctures in first loop.

[PLuto]

This is why I keen on the introduction of some kind of yellow onboard flag system. What happened to that project of a screen inside the car showing a yellow sign on all cars at the same time. I remember it was talked a few years back but have they abandoned it? This would stop such behavior, all cars have the warning at the same time and those who dont stop at crash scenes are disqualified/penalized.

We are using similar system with yellow flag in Czech successfully. But I know how people with experience from WRC and some officials were aware last year on Barum Rally, when they have seen it for first time. So for some of them we have made "test" during free practice or shakedown and they were surprised it is working...

[Mirek]

This is why I keen on the introduction of some kind of yellow onboard flag system. What happened to that project of a screen inside the car showing a yellow sign on all cars at the same time. I remember it was talked a few years back but have they abandoned it? This would stop such behavior, all cars have the warning at the same time and those who dont stop at crash scenes are disqualified/penalized.

The point is that in every local event, even in ERC, crews are used to stop at the spot of accidents where things obviously aren't all ok to check what happened and possibly help. On the other hand in WRC we have seen a lot of times in the past that nobody cares. For example when Prokop's car burnt two years a go in Germany everybody just passed around even when the co-driver tried to stop them. The sport is one thing but the lifes, possible forest fires etc. are way more important than any sporting result.

[Oliverk]

The point is that in every local event, even in ERC, crews are used to stop at the spot of accidents where things obviously aren't all ok to check what happened and possibly help. On the other hand in WRC we have seen a lot of times in the past that nobody cares. For example when Prokop's car burnt two years a go in Germany everybody just passed around even when the co-driver tried to stop them. The sport is one thing but the lifes, possible forest fires etc. are way more important than any sporting result.

No one even stopped for a second for Paddon from onboard videos. No OK sign in any of them either.

[noel157]

Ostberg seems to be getting slower. 21 secs off Mikkelsen over 18 km? Problems?

[PLuto]

The point is that in every local event, even in ERC, crews are used to stop at the spot of accidents where things obviously aren't all ok to check what happened and possibly help. On the other hand in WRC we have seen a lot of times in the past that nobody cares. For example when Prokop's car burnt two years a go in Germany everybody just passed around even when the co-driver tried to stop them. The sport is one thing but the lifes, possible forest fires etc. are way more important than any sporting result.

In WRC, this is usual that everybody takes care only about themselves and dont stop at the place of accident. And they are learning them to do it this way, unfortunately. We had issue with this type of problem with Pontus on Rallye Sumava, where he didnt respect what is usual (out of WRC) and didnt followed what is written in rules (also in WRC). Thats why he received cash penalty and I hope that he has learned something for future...

[Oliverk]

Ostberg seems to be getting slower. 21 secs off Mikkelsen over 18 km?

Usual speed, same yesterday.

[dimviii]

Lefebvre stopped at 4,2 km


edit broken suspension,retired

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci9_SgIXAAU6WD6.jpg

[noel157]

Usual speed, same yesterday.

I had originally typed "getting slower and slower" but gave him the benefit just in case.....

[noel157]

Lefebvre stopped at 4,2 km


edit broken suspension,retired

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci9_SgIXAAU6WD6.jpg

Retired with damaged suspension.

[dimviii]

Meeke faster at 2nd split.

[noel157]

M-Sport getting a bit excited........

https://twitter.com/MSportLtd/status/733947543822995457

[dimviii]

Camilli same time with Mikkelsen.

#fiestaisslow

[Oliverk]

Good time from Camilli. Hope this shuts the Ostberg excuses about Ford being shait.

[rage82]

Very good time by Camilli. Hope he can keep it on the road with the same speed.

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[Lundefaret]

I had a discussion about Cammili with Henning Solberg, and I have also defended him on this forum, because I have meant that he has great potential. I am not saying that one single good stage time is the same as becoming a World Champion, but remember - he started rallying just a few years ago.
Great to see this stage time from him, and Malcolm Wilson should take a large part of the honour for believing in him.

[Simmi]

Yep nice work from Camilli. Let's see what he can do in the next few rallies and see if he can flash more pace. Something Evans rarely did.

[dimviii]

Very good time by Camilli. Hope he can keep it on the road with the same speed.

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imho he hasnt got to continue at this speed.Dont forget that this is his 10th gravel rally and he is at wrc car.
He must be patience.Definetely he has speed,but he needs kms under his belt.

[noel157]

Knife in the back for Ostberg from his team, good stage result for the Camilli, but needs many more.

M-Sport ‏@MSportLtd 3m3 minutes ago
Wow, wow, wow @EricCamilli has arrived! Third fastest through SS10! 4.5 seconds quicker than Ogier and 20.4 up on Mads! #WRC #GoEric

[samWRC]

Lol Abbring stopped :D

[Mirek]

I had a discussion about Cammili with Henning Solberg, and I have also defended him on this forum, because I have meant that he has great potential. I am not saying that one single good stage time is the same as becoming a World Champion, but remember - he started rallying just a few years ago.
Great to see this stage time from him, and Malcolm Wilson should take a large part of the honour for believing in him.

I admit I was one of the critics, maybe too harsh. What is especially important is that this time comes in the first pass through the stage. I believe Camilli has had so far a problem with making correct pacenotes for the new stages.

[dimviii]

forgot yesterday Abbring at ''lemons''

WRC ‏@OfficialWRC

SS10: Abbring - WRC tracking shows him stopped at 3.2km #WRC

[spyros]

Very good time by Camilli. Hope he can keep it on the road with the same speed.

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Imagine Camilli pass Thierry.............

[noel157]

Camilli's goal needs to be a finish, if he can get a few top 3s would be good too.

[Mirek]

Tidemand? Is it only a missing split?

[dimviii]

Abbring again hit a rock.

[Maurice_M_27]

Fantastic time by Meeke again, fingers crossed that they can keep it up. Next year will be exciting!

[dimviii]

Gilbert stopped from 4th position at wrc2

[rage82]

imho he hasnt got to continue at this speed.Dont forget that this is his 10th gravel rally and he is at wrc car.
He must be patience.Definetely he has speed,but he needs kms under his belt.
You are right of course. And this is only his 5-th rally in WRC car. What I mean is his speed is great in this stage considering his statement before the rally that he will not pushing and want to finish the event and would be nice if can continue to drive with this speed.

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[dimviii]

Tidemand? Is it only a missing split?


finished with 12.08,4 time
Evans slightly faster at last split though. Nice fight.Malcolm likes it.

[Mirek]

Nice battle between Tidemand and Prokop continues :)

[Simmi]

Knife in the back for Ostberg from his team, good stage result for the Camilli, but needs many more.

M-Sport ‏@MSportLtd 3m3 minutes ago
Wow, wow, wow @EricCamilli has arrived! Third fastest through SS10! 4.5 seconds quicker than Ogier and 20.4 up on Mads! #WRC #GoEric

It will be interesting to see how the Ostberg/M-Sport dynamic continues over the year. If it continues like this it doesn't bode well. Just seems to be an air of negativity. Malcolm is normally a fairly honest, outspoken team boss so he will call Mads out for his performances.

Reminds me slightly of when they brought Hirvonen back in 2014 and expected him to be rejuvenated. Pretty clear that just wasn't going to happen.

[Rallyper]

Now, let´s be happy about Camilli and hope he´ll make this rally completed. I´ve been sceptic too about hiring a complete newbie to WRC. But now it looks good atm. Mads as said is good 2nd driver in team. Maybe that fulfills now... :)

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci-Fe9hWEAAKTZM.jpg:large

[dimviii]

here we go again

M-Sport ‏@MSportLtd

With @ElfynEvans' Fiesta R5 Evo back to full power, it's business as usual with a stage win through SS10 #WRC2


http://hs12.snstatic.fi/webkuva/taysi/700/1425624492078?ts=427

[N.O.T]

Heavy loses for Ogier on this one by almost everyone apart from Ostberg who is nothing.

[dimviii]

Sordo now faster at 2nd split from Mikkelsen.

[Mirek]

Ostberg with gearshift problems, obvious from 3rd split.

[Rallyper]

Ostberg with gearshift problems, obvious from 3rd split.

And that is a problem that followed him even in previous rallies, right? He has excuses no matter what others saying. (it´s not to you Mirek, just saying)

[Lundefaret]

In regards to Sordo he will struggle a little with the Hyundai in some of the technical sections because of the extra 100mm of distance between the axles.

[EightGear]

Thierry 'I'm gonna try and win this rally' Neuville is stopped.

[dimviii]

And that is a problem that followed him even in previous rallies, right? He has excuses no matter what others saying. (it´s not to you Mirek, just saying)

the problem is that even without problems is again slow.
The problem is not if he is slower 0,5 per km or 1sec per km when he has a problem.

[dimviii]

Meeke again faster at 1st split.

[Rallyper]

the problem is that even without problems is again slow.
The problem is not if he is slower 0,5 per km or 1sec per km when he has a problem.

Could be. But not you or me has been in car and know the status of it while driving. He isn´t slow, he´s not enough fast.

[dimviii]

Could be. But not you or me has been in car and know the status of it while driving. He isn´t slow, he´s not enough fast.

if you are not enough fast,there is no place for you at wrc.

[N.O.T]

if you are not enough fast,there is no place for you at wrc.

Everyone has a place in the WRC because the more people we watch at hairpins and the more WRCs we count on the entries the better... See prokop for example his car has different size dampers on the drivers size but the sport needs him.

[rage82]

Meeke needs only to control his speed from now on and he can easily have the rally in his bag.

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[seb_sh]

Camilli has started to show a bit of speed, that's good, but I think he needs to finish this rally because he has a chance for a good position. That would give him confidence and confirm his potential in my opinion.

Meeke is absolutely on fire, the road position probably helps but he's doing a good job so far.

[rage82]

Teemu Suninen fastest in stage 10. What a shame about his mistake in the first stage yeasterday. Could've been incredible battle in wrc2.

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[N.O.T]

Seems that Paddon broke Ogier for good, this season i nice so far Ogier loses on speed alone but he will win the 4th championship which is also nice, if he wins the next one as well it will be perfect to have some justice in the sport.

[Mirek]

Evans actually didn't win this stage in WRC2. Suninen who came only now did.

[dimviii]

Camilli lost plenty time at last kms.

[Ucci]

Meeke is today "from another planet". Just few stages and than already time to step off the trottle and control the situation.

[dimviii]

Evans actually didn't win this stage in WRC2. Suninen who came only now did.


http://cdn.quotationof.com/images/malcolm-wilson-1.jpg

[N.O.T]

Meeke is today "from another planet". Just few stages and than already time to step off the trottle and control the situation.

winning the stages of the second loop yesterday was more impressive than what he does today.

[dimviii]

M-Sport ‏@MSportLtd 2 λεπτάΠριν από 2 λεπτά

More bad luck for @MadsOstberg as it looks as though a broken driveshaft was the cause of his troubles on SS11... #WRC

[dimviii]

winning the stages of the second loop yesterday was more impressive than what he does today.

he admits that its due to road position/cleaning

[Simmi]

Another driveshaft gone in a Fiesta. Mads is going to lose a lot of time in the next one.

[dimviii]

do we know what happened to Neuville?


edit

Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally 27 δευτερόλεπταΠριν από 27 δευτερόλεπτα

Reports that @thierryneuville has run out of fuel! Haven't seen that for a while. Assume a leak somewhere?

[N.O.T]

he admits that its due to road position/cleaning

the second loop was a repeat of stages yesterday.

[dimviii]

Evans again faster at splits.

[dimviii]

the second loop was a repeat of stages yesterday.

sorry God,i misanderstood that you talking about today stages.


Koci took the lead from Tempestini

[AL14]

sorry God,i misanderstood that you talking about today stages.


Koci took the lead from Tempestini

Two lord's prayer and three Hail Mary to expiate your sins, brother.

[Mintexmemory]

Seems that Paddon broke Ogier for good, this season i nice so far Ogier loses on speed alone but he will win the 4th championship which is also nice, if he wins the next one as well it will be perfect to have some justice in the sport.

3 second places will beat a 1st / No score / 5th may be (JML) - 5th / 1st / DNF (HP) - DNS/ DNS / 1st maybe (KM) every time. Especially if you start that sequence with 54 points on the board from 2 max wins at the start of the season. Ogier will always drive fast enough for a podium and has no need to produce his maximum speed when road cleaning.
Others may now match Ogier for speed but are still a long way from having the consistency to worry him. Much as I love watching Meeke, he is always 'one pace note mistake' away from an off.

[Mintexmemory]

Two lord's prayer and three Hail Mary to expiate your sins, brother.

Nah ! Flagellation is the only suitable penance!

[N.O.T]

Nah ! Flagellation is the only suitable penance!

No... i am a graceful god.

[dimviii]

M-Sport ‏@MSportLtd

With his #FiestaR5Evo back to full working order, @ElfynEvans is comfortably quicker than @PontusTidemand - 7.3 seconds faster on SS11 #WRC2

Malcolm is so happy to wait for Sunninen.




Sat 11:16 - SS11: WRC 2 Tidemand
Cleanly through in his Skoda and sounding calm and relaxed. "A good run. Mixed tyres here, not optimal for this stage, but we'll see for the next one."

[Mintexmemory]

No... i am a graceful god.

Graceful or gracious? (Or both?) - For god read demon! ;-)

[N.O.T]

Graceful or gracious? (Or both?) - For god read demon! ;-)

both... obviously.

[dimviii]

next one is the big one Amarante with 37,67 km.


nice question,anybody knows the answer?

rallytravel.com ‏@rallytravel

@MSportLtd @EricCamilli how many other drivers have score a top 3 time after only this many #WRC car drives? Anyone know?

[TWRC]

And that is a problem that followed him even in previous rallies, right? He has excuses no matter what others saying. (it´s not to you Mirek, just saying)
In Citroën he also had gearshift problems, while nobody before or after him had the same problem (or it wasn't reported).

[Mintexmemory]

In Citroën he also had gearshift problems, while nobody before or after him had the same problem (or it wasn't reported).

Always shifts one gear below the optimum?

[dimviii]

lolz

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci-T38WWsAEKvBq.jpg

WRC ‏@OfficialWRC

SS11 & it's disappointment for @thierryneuville this time, his @HMSGOfficial i20 has run out of fuel. �� WRC TV #WRC

[Eli]

lolz

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci-T38WWsAEKvBq.jpg

WRC ‏@OfficialWRC

SS11 & it's disappointment for @thierryneuville this time, his @HMSGOfficial i20 has run out of fuel. WRC TV #WRC
Well at least it's not like Loeb's retirment back in Turkey 2003...

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[dimviii]

Sunninen again faster at 1st plit at ss11.

[dimviii]

Well at least it's not like Loeb's retirment back in Turkey 2003...


from fuel wasnt it?

[Eli]

from fuel wasnt it?
Yep but back then Daniel Elena miscalculated the distance back to service so they ran out of fuel...

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[PLuto]

Reports that @thierryneuville has run out of fuel! Haven't seen that for a while. Assume a leak somewhere?

I think last time on so top level was Tour de Corse and Kubica in Citroen...