Rally Wrc Mexicooo 2016

[satukata]

where is mads? car stopped?

[jonkka]

with wrc.com it's most likely just missing split

[rallyfun]

Mads time will be interesting - no tyre excuses now...

well there will be something about learning, getting used to the car, codriver etc

[Rallyper]

Mads GPS tracking shows he´s way from the stage before start!!!

[AL14]

where is mads? car stopped?

He is running. Should be only gps problem.

[AL14]

What? Mikkelsne 17secs? Seems like a spin or something similar, let's see if it increase or it was just a "one off" mistake

[AL14]

What a first split for Latvala!

[jonkka]

What a first split for Latvala!

An omen for an off...

[EstWRC]

nice split from Tänak

[satukata]

What a first split for Latvala!

GO Jari-Matti!!!

[dimviii]

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/12814422_1064120456987170_2074615245973420998_n.jp g?oh=02df8b70fe4f531c70c6acc3219bf890&oe=5751C995

[AL14]

An omen for an off...

No middle ways, right? :)

[stefanvv]

Ostberg disappeared. Taken by aliens?

[EstWRC]

what the hell, that split from Latvala in unreal

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ostberg disappeared. Taken by aliens?

Scared to show his stage time ? ;)

[dimviii]

think with Meeke we would watch another rally.Pitty he is not at Mexico.

[stefanvv]

what the hell, that split from Latvala in unreal

now he steers with 2 hands

[AL14]

think with Meeke we would watch another rally.Pitty he is not at Mexico.

Would have been very much funnier indeed.

[dimviii]

Ogier -35 sec from 1st pass at 5th split

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Camilli is super-slow... behind Prokop & Bertelli !

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mikkelsen lost more time now...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sordo losing time now as well.

[samWRC]

Camilli is super-slow... behind Prokop & Bertelli !
Even Kremer is faster in the first split.

[dimviii]

Ogier -44 from 1st pass

[dimviii]

Fri 15:32 - SS7: Ogier
He completes. His time of 38m26.3s - is on course to be slower than Jari-Matti Latvala. "That's normal. I'm looking at the gap with Andreas Mikkelsen, that's the guy I'm fighting with. Jari-Matti is in a different race.

[Negaiss]

World Excuse Championship !

[AL14]

Ogier's second half was impressive.

[stefanvv]

Fri 15:36 - SS7: Mikkelsen 42.3sec slower than Ogier. No obvious sign of damage from outside. What happened? "I don't know. I overshot a junction early on, had to stop and turn around, and after that something felt very strange with the car. It's handling like a snake everywhere. A diff maybe? The brakes have gone now too - I was using them so much to keep the car stable."

[Fast Eddie WRC]

OSTBERG
32.6sec off Ogier's pace, but Mads is far happier with his second bite of El Chocolate. "This was competitive. I can feel the tyres are working this time. The hard compound was the right one this time."

Still down on Paddon who he should be competing with here.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Latvala not so super-fast at the last split !

[dimviii]

#RallyMexico SS7 Mikkelsen "I overshot a junction early on, had to stop & turn around & after that something felt very strange with the dar"

[stefanvv]

Latvala not so super-fast at the last split !

probably thanks to Ogier

[Fast Eddie WRC]

JML only half the lead he had on the first run...

[AL14]

JML only half the lead he had on the first run...

He had less road sweeping advantage this time though

[stefanvv]

Fri 15:46 - SS7: Sordo A decent time for Dani, third quickest, but it sounds like a wild ride. "It's so slippery - it's impossible to drive like this. The rear is moving around a lot. Also we have a problem with the throttle, it's staying on about 20 per cent under braking - pushing the car on. I nearly went off several times."

[eib1]

GO Jari-Matti!!!

btw, where is that guy who shouted "hanaaaaa Jari-Matti hanaaaaa" all the time :)
haven´t seen him here for a while...

[dimviii]

Kremer stopped

[jonkka]

btw, where is that guy who shouted "hanaaaaa Jari-Matti hanaaaaa" all the time :)
haven´t seen him here for a while...

Maybe for a good reason, eh? :D

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcvFMlDUUAAs3Wq.jpg:large

[N.O.T]

Paddon shows the mentality of a true rally driver... very nice.

[EstWRC]

Latvala showing "sisu" :p

[satukata]

Hanaa Latvala Hanaa!!! :) Flying Finn!!! Hanaa!!!

[AL14]

Paddon shows the mentality of a true rally driver... very nice.

When? What has he said?

[dimviii]

Fri 15:55 - SS7: Camilli
The tracking system showed a brief stop on stage. He completes 2m33.9s off the pace. The car looks okay. What happened? "We have a problem with the downshift. And from the middle of the stage we lost first or second gear. I hope we can continue today and check the stages." He pulls away in third gear.

[stefanvv]

Fri 15:55 - SS7: Camilli The tracking system showed a brief stop on stage. He completes 2m33.9s off the pace. The car looks okay. What happened? "We have a problem with the downshift. And from the middle of the stage we lost first or second gear. I hope we can continue today and check the stages." He pulls away in third gear.

[dimviii]

Ostberg 10 sec for jump start

Al Kuwari also stopped but now continues

[stefanvv]

:D
Fri 15:56 - SS7: Prokop "Getting better but still not perfect. I like these long stages. After Dakar though this is nothing special!"

[satukata]

Suninen flying now!! :) young flying finn!! Hanaa Teemu!!!

[N.O.T]

When? What has he said?

His said nothing, actions speak louder than words to the initiated.

[EstWRC]

Tänak and Evans performances from last season not looking bad now eh? Tänak had a spin but lost only 20 secs to Mads on last stage.

[stefanvv]

Tänak and Evans performances from last season not looking bad now eh? Tänak had a spin but lost only 20 secs to Mads on last stage.

not at all, but Wilsom likes to "gamble"

[EstWRC]

i still hate him that we didnt see Tänak and Mads in the same team:p. Would have been a lot more interesting.

[N.O.T]

not at all, but Wilsom likes to "gamble"

you spelled "money" wrong

[satukata]

suninen faster than bertelli prokop and camilli

[stefanvv]

you spelled "money" wrong

intentionally

[satukata]

Ogiers 2nd split slower than latvalas 1st pass

[Sulland]

suninen faster than bertelli prokop and camilli

maybe Malcolm should make a swap!

[satukata]

maybe Malcolm should make a swap!

I think Malcolm don´t have change to get Suninen. Suninen is going to Toyota hopefully :)

[EstWRC]

that dmack tyre just hopeless, lasted only 2 splits.LOL

[Rallyper]

maybe Malcolm should make a swap!

Yeah, and test Emil Bergkvist for DMAck ... car.

[EstWRC]

Ott Tänak ‏@OttTanak
We were a lot sideways, feels like maybe a broken diff, so we need to have a check and see...

[GravelBen]

Paddon shows the mentality of a true rally driver... very nice.

N.O.T said something positive, I can barely believe it! :eek:

[Rallyper]

He is mostly a righteous brother in his speech. ;)

[AL14]

Tanak faster so far on SS9. Could it be first DMACK stage win?

[EstWRC]

i doubt it, Latvala will ruin it again like in sweden

[MartijnS]

Oh I cant express how much I hate these slow motion shots but that's a big jump!

http://youtu.be/N7LizJRQ71M

[Mariusz]

i doubt it, Latvala will ruin it again like in sweden
And Latvala did it. Maybe next time.

[AL14]

i doubt it, Latvala will ruin it again like in sweden

It happened indeed. Sorry man, didn't suppose to jynx it.

[EstWRC]

oh i still hoped for it but whan can you do. im sure Latvala is still angry because of Poland 2015 :p

[Mirek]

Oh I cant express how much I hate these slow motion shots but that's a big jump!

http://youtu.be/N7LizJRQ71M

1:38 visible bad rebound of one Hyundai. Still some more homeworks to do.

[Mk2 RS2000]

1:38 visible bad rebound of one Hyundai. Still some more homeworks to do.

The Hyundai at 2.22 looks to have set the shocks up better, looks like a driver set up issue rather than a car design issue.

[RS]

think with Meeke we would watch another rally.Pitty he is not at Mexico.

No chance. Too many rocks in Mexico.

[Mintexmemory]

No chance. Too many rocks in Mexico.

Funny isn't it - usually JML or Meeke find the only rock in 20km of stage. In Mexico Latvala has avoided everything that is 'in your face' thus far. Just when I'd stopped believing he had a performance left for my Pickem. But for those who still selected him keep the rule in mind '1st or 2nd otherwise nowhere'

[Mirek]

The Hyundai at 2.22 looks to have set the shocks up better, looks like a driver set up issue rather than a car design issue.

True that the other lands a lot better and I agree that most likely it's not a design issue but setup one.

[Rallyper]

True that the other lands a lot better and I agree that most likely it's not a design issue but setup one.

Maybe a matter of speed before jump? Or breaking? (Admit havent seen vid yet)

[Sulland]

#RallyMexico SS7 Mikkelsen "I overshot a junction early on, had to stop & turn around & after that something felt very strange with the dar"

Was something broken, or did the Panzerwagen hold together?

[Mirek]

Maybe a matter of speed before jump? Or breaking? (Admit havent seen vid yet)

All the cars jump very nose heavy on that place, land hard on front but all of them stick their rear axle to the ground at first contact while that one Hyundai suffered from clearly visible violent rebound of the rear axle. Similar to what Fabias R5 did last year in Portugal before they sorted it out.

[tommeke_B]

Also these "fake" jumps often seem to be difficult for cars. It's a very short/sharp jump, quite unnatural. They seem to "kick" the cars much more than a normal jump would.

[br21]

there are so many factors, not only speed and arriving angle, but also throttle/brake position, damper springs, clicks, ride height, etc influenting behaviour of the car during take-off and landing that it's hard to judge. Also sometimes you need to sacrifice one "special" jump like this one to have good setup for other part of the stage, sometimes you ned to find compromise, etc.

[AL14]

Ogier 27 minutes faster than himself at first split. What a champion!

[Negaiss]

Ogier 27 minutes faster than himself at first split. What a champion!

Haaa, ha ha. Wrc +

[EstWRC]

Mads +4.8 already in first split :rolleyes:

[cosmin_sb]

wrong tires again?

[N.O.T]

wrong tires again?

wrong part between the seat and the steering wheel.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Maybe Mads is playing the long-game, waiting for others to go off or have problems...

[jonkka]

Maybe Mads is playing the long-game, waiting for others to go off or have problems...

He's very good at that (just look at his track record) but this time he needs just about everyone to suffer before his situation improves.

[Oliverk]

Maybe Mads is playing the long-game, waiting for others to go off or have problems...

When has he N.O.T?

[cosmin_sb]

Latvala -3.6s at first split

[AL14]

Good splits by Paddon!

[N.O.T]

"how to become a rally driver" another lecture by Hayden Paddon, well done !!

i hope i do not jinx him.

[Eric]

Mads is so sloooow. He is never going to win a rally:rolleyes:

[jonkka]

Mads is so sloooow. He is never going to win a rally:rolleyes:

He has already. :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

He's very good at that (just look at his track record)

Given the total lack of points from his team-mate I think he has to settle for finishes ..

[dimviii]

Maybe Mads is playing the long-game, waiting for others to go off or have problems...

its the only game he can play.

MICHELIN Motorsport ‏@michelin_sport

#tyre info: Ostberg/Camilli/Sordo/Neuville: 3 LTX Force S4 +2H
Latvala: 3H+2S
Ogier: 5S
Paddon: 4S+2H
Mikkelsen 6S
#RallyMexico

[Eric]

He has already. :D

And that will be the only one..:p

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mads Østberg ‏@MadsOstberg
SS11 18:15.1 "Quite ok. Tricky conditions. I've retired on this stage at least twice before so I'm happy to get through. Not the cleanest run through, something wrong with the gear shift I think."

[cosmin_sb]

Latvala is the quickest, look of the times

[satukata]

Latvala Flying!! hanaa JM hanaa!!! :)

[EstWRC]

mega time from Latvala, 51 secs now ahead of Ogier.

[kirungi okwogera]

"how to become a rally driver" another lecture by Hayden Paddon, well done !!

i hope i do not jinx him.

I agree, I have been saying this about Paddon since like 2011, but I'm curious. Why has he won favour from the infamously hard-to-please N.O.T? And why this year particularly?

[Eric]

Latvala! Crazyyy

[cosmin_sb]

Can Latvala avoid any problems and win the rally?

[AL14]

Is Camilli stopped?

[Eli]

Is Camilli stopped?

yep for the second day in a row...and to think he has a 3 year contract with M-Sport...

[Eric]

Can Latvala avoid any problems and win the rally?

Lets hope. About time Ogier gets some real challenges! GO JML!

[AL14]

yes he is... This hurts a bit. His confidence should be undert the ground and digging by now.

[N.O.T]

I agree, I have been saying this about Paddon since like 2011, but I'm curious. Why has he won favour from the infamously hard-to-please N.O.T? And why this year particularly?

Because I like his attitude, he is fast but knows the limits of the competition and the car, he shows progress and maturity. He started this rally slow then when his confidence grew he attacked and his times are very respectable and fast. If he manages to beat Sordo it is going to be a great show of maturity. He uses the pac-man method of dominace against his rivals eating away chunks of time steadily little by little.

[EstWRC]

no worries Camilli, your master is still happy

http://cdn.images.autosport.com/editorial/1244880854.jpg

[satukata]

Can Latvala avoid any problems and win the rally?

Hope the best. LAst SS JM hit big rock but this time no puncture and no problems with the car.
He said finnish in rallyradio that he was frightened very much

[satukata]

no worries Camilli, your master is still happy

http://cdn.images.autosport.com/editorial/1244880854.jpg

i hope evans back!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Is Camilli stopped?

Again.

Hence Ostberg has to get points whatever it takes.

[EstWRC]

Crash in a fast corner for Camilli, so 3 out of 3. Mads just 9 secs faster than Tänak on dcrap.

[Eric]

Again.

Hence Ostberg has to get points whatever it takes.

Cant believe Evans was replaced by Camilli.. Wonder what is going trough Mr.M-sports head now

[N.O.T]

Crash in a fast corner for Camilli, so 3 out of 3. Mads just 9 secs faster than Tänak on dcrap.

we need Kubica back, he will have some serious competition.

[RS]

Again.

Hence Ostberg has to get points whatever it takes.

What for? They are not going to win the manufacturers championship.

[EstWRC]

Cant believe Evans was replaced by Camilli.. Wonder what is going trough Mr.M-sports head now

he said yesterday to the radio that he doesnt regret anything.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

What for? They are not going to win the manufacturers championship.

Points = some credibility at the end of the Season.

And Ostberg cant challenge for rally wins.

[Eric]

he said yesterday to the radio that he doesnt regret anything.

Well, he says what he have to say. Im pretty sure he is starting to wonder if it was the right thing to do..

[AL14]

Because I like his attitude, he is fast but knows the limits of the competition and the car, he shows progress and maturity. He started this rally slow then when his confidence grew he attacked and his times are very respectable and fast. If he manages to beat Sordo it is going to be a great show of maturity. He uses the pac-man method of dominace against his rivals eating away chunks of time steadily little by little.

That's exactly like this. Another driver after the second place in Sardinia would have crashed his car several times looking for victories soon after it but he showed and keep showing maturity and cleverness in his approach. If you look at his results he is improving a little bit rally by rally collecting points and experience.

[satukata]

Suninen in their own series. Great talent

[dimviii]

Again.

Hence Ostberg has to get points whatever it takes.

again
its not ''he has to'' get points.
Its the onlyy he can do.
He hasnt got more speed and he chooses not to drive at full speed but at 95% because he has to finish.

[RS]

And Ostberg cant challenge for rally wins.

I'm glad you admit that, but I don't think Mads' slowness/reliability is any tactic.. It's just Mads.

[dimviii]

M-Sport ‏@MSportLtd

@EricCamilli and @BenVeillas are both okay and trying to make a repair within the stage #WRC #RallyMexico

[Eric]

I'm glad you admit that, but I don't think Mads' slowness/reliability is any tactic.. It's just Mads.

I agree. Just look at rally Sweden. Mikkelsen was off the road 3 times and lost a lot of time, but still the fight with Mads was pretty close. And that was when Mads was going as "fast as he could".. He is a good second driver and gets a lot of manufactories points, but thats it. He will never fight for the win..

[Rallyper]

Mads is doing what he should atm.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I criticised Ostberg at Citroen for not doing better, but at M-Sport 2016 he cant do anything else but go steady and take points.

[satukata]

I criticised Ostberg at Citroen for not doing better, but at M-Sport 2016 he cant do anything else but go steady and take points.

I think Mads is doing ok with slow Ford

[dimviii]

I criticised Ostberg at Citroen for not doing better, but at M-Sport 2016 he cant do anything else but go steady and take points.

just remembered how many times he was complaining with ds3 setup,didnt allowed him to drive fast.Same time when Meeke was seting top times.

[dimviii]

I think Mads is doing ok with slow Ford

same as with fast ds3.

[Bartek]

Crash in a fast corner for Camilli, so 3 out of 3. Mads just 9 secs faster than Tänak on dcrap.

RK must be afraid because his record is in danger :)

[samWRC]

It seems SS12 is delayed?

[Mirek]

The problem with Mads is that he isn't No.1 driver. He is good No.2 to secure solid points but he isn't able to deliver more - what No.1 driver should.

Anyway I wonder how long Malcolm keeps backing Camilli. So far his season is one big disaster and there aren't even signs of progress.

In some way it reminds me 2005 M-Sport transition season with Gardemeister and Kresta - first one solid point-taker and second one unreliable rookie (Kresta improved a lot through the season though). In 2005 they concentrated on Focus 06 development, now 2017 spec. car. In any case they are in bad position for next year to find proper drivers.


I think Mads is doing ok with slow Ford

How do You know that Ford is slow? Please explain how did You come to that conclusion.

[dimviii]

Sat 10:18 - SS12: Delayed
Ogier was due to start at 1011hrs. We'll bring you news when we get it

[dimviii]

while we waiting,just a refresh for the stage.

Sat 10:12 - Stage info: SS12
Otates 1, 42.62km. Saturday's longest test has claimed several victims in the past. Andreas Mikkelsen rolled heavily in 2014, Jari-Matti Latvala crashed several years previously and in 2013 Sébastien Ogier stopped to allow co-driver Julien Ingrassia to open a closed gate. After a narrow, uphill start, it is mostly fast and flowing on wide roads, although there is a 5km twisty section two-thirds of the way through.

[jonkka]

How do You know that Ford is slow? Please explain how did You come to that conclusion.

Maybe because Mads was faster last year in Citroen?

[Mariusz]

How do You know that Ford is slow? Please explain how did You come to that conclusion.
The car construction is quite old and they haven't done many upgrades in all these years. It is slow because other cars got faster.

[Mirek]

Maybe because Mads was faster last year in Citroen?

Was he? Besides that it's hardly a proof for anything. Drivers may be fast with one car and slow with another. It doesn't mean the car is slow as well. Is Hyundai slower than Ford when Neuville was faster with Ford than with Hyundai?


The car construction is quite old and they haven't done many upgrades in all these years. It is slow because other cars got faster.

You probably didn't notice that last year M-Sport homologated new car with completely new engine and different suspension.

[satukata]

now ogier started and we are live

[EstWRC]

i dont know how much slower the ford is or if it is slower but Thierry said last year while commenting the power stage that Ford has the weakest engine.

[Mirek]

I would always take what drivers say with a grain of salt. I doubt he knows exact power curve of recent Ford.

By the way would You believe that DS3 R5 has higher peak power than Fabia R5? It has ;)

[jonkka]

Was he? Besides that it's hardly a proof for anything. Drivers may be fast with one car and slow with another. It doesn't mean the car is slow as well.

Good point but it's the combination we judge. Car without driver is as useless as driver without car.

[Eric]

Paddon with a rear-left damage..

[N.O.T]

mistake by paddon +15 on 1st split.

[dimviii]

mistake by paddon +15 on 1st split.

you jinxed him

[N.O.T]

Game over for Paddon, at least for something good... meh.

[Viking]

mistake by paddon +15 on 1st split.

"how to become a rally driver" another lecture by Hayden Paddon, well done !!

i hope i do not jinx him."

Hmm...

[AL14]

I would always take what drivers say with a grain of salt. I doubt he knows exact power curve of recent Ford.

By the way would You believe that DS3 R5 has higher peak power than Fabia R5? It has ;)

Mirek, I agree we can't say safely that Fiesta is slow because of what you say but for sure we can at least assume it looking at a number of factor: Ostberg undoubtedly less competitive than when he was at Citroen, or also Hirvonen struggling, even in flatout sections, the big gaps by all the drivers driving it etc. I know the car is not the only variable for such issues. But well, at least you start to suspect something is wrong with it.

[dimviii]

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/v/t1.0-9/12791047_969692033110852_8318372838792352318_n.jpg ?oh=5bb726919a6a999e1cd4f986e975307f&oe=5768A934

[Mirek]

Good point but it's the combination we judge. Car without driver is as useless as driver without car.

I thought the discussion was about Mads as a person but ok. Anyway I believe the differences between cars on WRC level are a lot smaller than differences between drivers and that it's mostly the fans who try to find excuses whenever their hero isn't that good as they wish, so they blame car, team or whatever.

I don't want to say that Fiesta is as fast as Polo but I can't safely say that it's slower than i20 or DS3. Maybe it is maybe it isn't. Still the driving matters more in my opinion.

[N.O.T]

Paddon over a min slower...

Now i am sad.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mads taking a place after Paddon mistake...

If Mads pushed like he has done here in the past he might do the same.

Experience says go steady. Not nice but it works.

[AL14]

What did Mads say at the radio?

[AL14]

Oh, read now.
"I can't stop. I really have to go for a pee." lol

[Negaiss]

What did Mads say at the radio?

He said, he have to pee.

[samWRC]

Kremer is now stopped in the stage.

[dimviii]

Κremer stopped again

[Eric]

Sordo had a spin. Mikkelsen closing up. Going to be interesting to follow Sordo/Mikkelsen and Latvala/Ogier!

[Mariusz]

Was he? Besides that it's hardly a proof for anything. Drivers may be fast with one car and slow with another. It doesn't mean the car is slow as well. Is Hyundai slower than Ford when Neuville was faster with Ford than with Hyundai?
You probably didn't notice that last year M-Sport homologated new car with completely new engine and different suspension.
You're wrong, I did notice it. And I still think that the car is slower than others because of my reasons above.

[N.O.T]

2mins lost for paddon... its good that not all is lost... for now.

[samWRC]

Al-Kuwari stopped.

[N.O.T]

Al-Kuwari stopped.

nobody cares about tourists.

[maciotacio]

Neuville's stopped...

[Eric]

Neuville crashed.. :mad:

[dimviii]

Hyundai Motorsport ‏@HMSGOfficial

#Neuville stopped on SS12 after accident. Crew OK - organizers' are sending medical crew for precaution. #WRC #RallyMexico

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CczTAW_VIAAyT2k.jpg

[Eric]

Feeling sorry for Neuville.. The season is starting to look a lot like last year. That cannot be good for the confidence

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The first round of the BRC is just about to start if anyone wants to follow the revived series while the WRC is at service...

Evans in the Dmack Fiesta R5 the man to beat.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cczd47FW4AAiZpI.jpg:large

http://msabrc.com/rallyresults/

http://www.motorsportforums.com/showthread.php?36664-Mid-Wales-Stages-2016/page5

[dimviii]

Sat 11:58 - SS13: Tanak
"All good. Never better."

[olemann]

Strange that so many criticize Ostberg and Mikkelsen when they lie on 2 and 3 or 3 and 4 when the season is finished. Most of their heroes are behind. It's sure easier to comment other one their feckless heroes. Do not mean to hurt but only about recalling facts.

[Mk2 RS2000]

Feeling sorry for Neuville.. The season is starting to look a lot like last year. That cannot be good for the confidence
The Princess does not know his own limitations

[satukata]

The first round of the BRC is just about to start if anyone wants to follow the revived series while the WRC is at service...

Evans in the Dmack Fiesta R5 the man to beat.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cczd47FW4AAiZpI.jpg:large

http://msabrc.com/rallyresults/

http://www.motorsportforums.com/showthread.php?36664-Mid-Wales-Stages-2016/page5

What time is ss1?

[N.O.T]

The first round of the BRC is just about to start if anyone wants to follow the revived series while the WRC is at service...

Evans in the Dmack Fiesta R5 the man to beat.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cczd47FW4AAiZpI.jpg:large

http://msabrc.com/rallyresults/

http://www.motorsportforums.com/showthread.php?36664-Mid-Wales-Stages-2016/page5

when you give info about something do it properly

Itinerary (first stage starts in about 45mins)
http://results.djames.org.uk/results/itinerary.php?EventID=419&e=419
Entry List
http://results.djames.org.uk/results/entry.php?EventID=419&e=419
Results
http://results.djames.org.uk/results/?e=419

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Leg 1

SS1 Hafren/Sweet Lamb 25.57 km 19:10 [5. 3. 20:10 GMT+1]

SS2 Pike’s Peak/Myherin 15.76 km 19:57 [5. 3. 20:57 GMT+1]

Entry

http://ewrc-results.com/startlist.ph...es-Stages-2016

[Fast Eddie WRC]

when you give info about something do it properly

Itinerary (first stage starts in about 45mins)
http://results.djames.org.uk/results/itinerary.php?EventID=419&e=419
Entry List
http://results.djames.org.uk/results/entry.php?EventID=419&e=419
Results
http://results.djames.org.uk/results/?e=419

Info is in the BRC section thread.

[EstWRC]

Sat 11:58 - SS13: Tanak
"All good. Never better."

At least the boys have their humour :p

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Eat my dust critics ! ;)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CczZ_W6VIAAPBpt.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@DaniSordo: "Fan broken today, engine in safety mode in stage"

[Mariusz]

Who have criticized Mikkelsen? I think he is doing a good job this season. One day he will be the world champion! He is after all the youngest driver in WRC..
World champion? Nah, I don't think so. Unless Seb chooses to stay home with kids.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CczdxgfXEAAakaO.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CczdxhdW8AQQf1I.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CczdxiJWIAA1N6A.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CczdxiPXIAIDWZ-.jpg

[AL14]

Was wondering. Putting the word "crash" into Neuville's name will give us maybe the best of this kind: Crashville. Sounds nice.

[dimviii]

any photo from Neuvilles i20? must be a serious crash for visiting hospital.

[jonkka]

60 sec penalty for Mikkelsen for incorrect check-in time? oops...

[Mariusz]

nobody cares about tourists.
There are whole countries who care about tourists. Mexico is one of them.

[andyone]

Ogier was pushing soo hard. and he is saying he wasn't pushing, whaaat..!!

[Muchonen]

Oh yeah those spectators shots on live stage coverage. Good I haven't bought a sub in WRC+

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Oh yeah those spectators shots on live stage coverage. Good I haven't bought a sub in WRC+

And interviews mid-stage...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

And Desborough saying 'just listen to the XXXX...' then talking all over it ! :(

[Eli]

1 minute penalty for Mikkelsen? what?? and how come Dani Sordo needs to tell that to the wrc crew and they have no clew about it?

[Rallyper]

JML fastest on Ss14!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ccz8XTxUUAAb5ya.jpg

[AL14]

Suninen is going to break some kind of record about gap from first to second in his class...

[Lord_Shaitan]

Ptaszek puncture or something?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

1MIN PENALTY FOR MIKKELSEN ?
Perhaps. We're hearing his car was checked in early for service. VW say it was down to 'a misunderstanding between driver and co-driver.’ We'll have to wait to see what action, if any, is taken...

[dimviii]

Kremer ss12

http://www.ewrc-results.com/quickp/27501_cczuuk_vaaaj5ey.jpg

[EstWRC]

Neuville

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cc0IftBVIAAhwlR.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No splits on WRC or VWMotorsport... :(

Not started yet, my bad.

[EstWRC]

the stage just started?

[dimviii]

yep Ogier is in the stage

[SubaruNorway]

1MIN PENALTY FOR MIKKELSEN ?
Perhaps. We're hearing his car was checked in early for service. VW say it was down to 'a misunderstanding between driver and co-driver.’ We'll have to wait to see what action, if any, is taken...

What i got from it was that Mikkelsen was outside the car and they were due to go in so Jæger which was sat in the car started it but it was in gear so it jumped over the line...

[dimviii]

here we go again

via google translate
--------------------------

A little over 24 hours after leaving the road and its abandonment in the first special in the day Friday menu (SS4 - El Chocolate), Thierry Neuville (Hyundai i20 WRC) gave cover in the second contested this Saturday special (ES12 - Otates 1).

On his way to a second consecutive second time, the Belgian driver, who was left in the Rally 2 with the goal to go steal some points and to accumulate mileage on the Rally Mexico is violently out of the road within five kilometers of the special, long over forty kilometers away.

The Belgian crew unharmed, but Thierry Neuville was taken to the hospital for some tests as a precaution prior to reassure his fans on social networks.

"This morning, the instructions were to bring Thierry few points for the constructors and prepare for Argentina, summed Alain Penasse, Team Manager of Hyundai Belgian team, micro Olivier Gaspard, the Special envoy of the RTBF in Mexico. I do not think we can be happy, to be honest with you. the instructions were very clear, but we must wait to hear the version of Thierry on his return from the hospital before to do our analyzes. Maybe something broke on the car, waiting to hear his version before the shot.

http://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_penasse-apres-la-sortie-de-neuville-les-consignes-etaient-tres-claires?id=9232215

[EstWRC]

He will be gone from Hyundai, my bet is Citroen. And Tänak to Hyundai then please, would be great Tänak and Paddon in Hyundai.

[jonkka]

Someone is daydreaming again

[dimviii]

Ogier -26 sec at 4th split from morning pass

[satukata]

Latvala drive like champion!

[EstWRC]

Someone is daydreaming again

yeah, whats so bad about it? And Neuville leaving Hyundai, its not the first time that Hyundai is mad at him....

[EstWRC]

Mikkelsen stopped

[itix]

i hope evans back!!

I don't... also that's unrealistic given the mentioned 3 year contract.

[N.O.T]

no splits for Ostberg, GPS problems ?

[EstWRC]

yeap, gps

[satukata]

no splits for Ostberg, GPS problems ?

ostberg is ok. only gps problem

[jonkka]

yeah, whats so bad about it?

I didn't say there's something bad about it, did I? Still, that's all it is, a dream.

[EstWRC]

but dreams come true sometimes :)

[satukata]

Mikkelsen out ... and slow ostberg is 4th. smart driving

[dimviii]

Sat 16:10 - SS15: Mikkelsen
Stopped at 32.6km. At the 31km split he had been 7.4sec quicker than Ogier.

[satukata]

And Latvala continue flying.. -10s 3rd split :) Maybe JM can now start drive more safe

[EstWRC]

Mikkelsen off-road crash

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen out of road

[N.O.T]

Paddon on Pac-Man mode again.... nice. Can he do it ?

[dimviii]

Paddon on Pac-Man mode again.... nice. Can he do it ?

to do what?

[N.O.T]

Catch Ostberg.

[EstWRC]

i can imagine the pain going thru Tänaks head tomorrow when Paddon will pass him on the 80km stage. i mean, you were fighting with the dudes last year for the places and now he will pass you on the stage.

[dimviii]

Catch Ostberg.

imho he hasnt got to try it just drive at his rythm.Better to run the whole stages,and gain experience.If some small problem for Mads then ok he has to try.
5th or 4th doesnt change something significant for him.

[EstWRC]

i agree with dimviii

[N.O.T]

imho he hasnt got to try it just drive at his rythm.Better to run the whole stages,and gain experience.If some small problem for Mads then ok he has to try.
5th or 4th doesnt change something significant for him.

Its Pac-Man mode !!!! he can do anything !!!!

http://i.imgur.com/w5zd2vP.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

You guys want Ostberg to go faster and criticise him but then say Paddon should play safe and wait for a mistake...

[EstWRC]

the difference is that one guy has been in wrc forever and one hasnt

[Robbo]

Hayden will look at the long game, where he is is fine, not really sufficient distance/speed to catch Mats. Given the issues he has had , a very good result. Should be in main team at all times. Showing a class act. Yes I am a fan of his

[stefanvv]

That's stage win N10 for Latvala in this rally!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

the difference is that one guy has been in wrc forever and one hasnt

But one has team-mates that score points ...

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cc0VzTJW8AEsuby.jpg:large

[Eli]

That's stage win N10 for Latvala in this rally!

yes now if Latvala can repeat this performance for more rallies it would be nice

[AL14]

But one has team-mates that score points ...

Who? Neuville?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Who? Neuville?

Sometimes. Also Sordo.

Citroen beat Hyundai 2015 thanks to Ostberg points backing up Meeke.

At M-Sport 2016 Ostberg has no back-up.

[dimviii]

Tanak is the new Hanninen

Sat 16:24 - SS15: Tanak
"I'm enjoying the challenge."

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

And interviews mid-stage...
Again..?!

And how about the first car on the road, will we see that from start to finish or back to the next car..?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ostberg up to 4th.. ;)

[dimviii]

Camillis fiesta ready for tomorow

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Again..?!

And how about the first car on the road, will we see that from start to finish or back to the next car..?

Complete rubbish the live stages.

I give up and wait for fan videos.

[AL14]

Complete rubbish the live stages.

I give up and wait for fan videos.

And how about the camera staring for eternities to mexican yob spectators?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

And how about the camera staring for eternities to mexican yob spectators?

And switching from live onboards to a car sitting on the startline for 30 secs...

[itix]

It is pretty insane that the leader of the Rally could practically stop stage side, eat a three course dinner, get back in the car and still finish in a points position.

[stefanvv]

Mikkelsen off-road crash

Pity it happened before 4 really short stages.He'll get big penalty for that.

[AL14]

It is pretty insane that the leader of the Rally could practically stop stage side, eat a three course dinner, get back in the car and still finish in a points position.

If Suninen does it he will end up in the podium. Or remain first if he goes to a Mc Donalds. lol

[stefanvv]

Strange enough, if Tanak finishes 6th, he'll double his points compared to last year for 1st 3 rounds.

[stefanvv]

If Suninen does it he will end up in the podium. Or remain first if he goes to a Mc Donalds. lol

it'll be waste of taste if they have McDonalds with all that Mexican food around:)

[EstWRC]

yep, the worst tires of his career but the best beginning of his season in his career.

There are rumours around him and Wilson that Wilson put him to dmack team to show stability. So far he is doing good, little off in monte carlo but everybody had something in monte carlo.

[SubaruNorway]

Pity it happened before 4 really short stages.He'll get big penalty for that.

2m30sec is it for each of them?

[stefanvv]

2m30sec is it for each of them?

Isn't it 5 minutes each?

[Sulland]

So much water btw the boats now, little exitement left. Good night!

[Mariusz]

Isn't it 5 minutes each?
It's 7 minutes per stage.