ADAC Rallye Deutschland 2015

[thuGG]

Is Kubica able to shift to the World RX Championship? I think a World-RX car with more horsepower would suit him better.

I think he'd rather go racing.

[latek]

Don't forget that Kubica is a disabled person. Only because of that criticizing him too much is senseless.

[Mirek]

The fact that he is disabled doesn't justify his countless attempts to kill himself and others. It's harsh I know but it would be probably better for everyone if he let rallying be and go back on circuits. He can not have luck every time and I fear it's going to end terrible if he keeps trying.

[Francis44]

I think it's time for him to find something that suits him better aswell, Rallycross could be an option as it is on a track and those are well protected by barriers and such.

Also we forget how hard his limitations are, just yesterday I was watching the highlights and when Kubica was climbing to the podium without his car you could see his right hand really does not look good and it's movements are so strange, just unhappy for him to have his career destroyed by a sport he enjoyed so much.

[Mirek]

Bergkvist lost a lot of time on the last split. Griebel was more than 2 minutes faster but since he lost nearly four yesterday it changes nothing.

[Rallyper]

But Bergkvist still has comfortable lead by 48 secs. What happened?

[Medved]

Bergkvist had 2 punctures - both front wheels.

[Rallyper]

Bergkvist had 2 punctures - both front wheels.

Let´s hope he weared two spares...

[GigiGalliNo1]

Splits not working on WRCPlus? And maps?

[N.O.T]

Splits not working on WRCPlus? And maps?

2 hours until the next stage.

[wia5958]

I think you are ignoring a couple of variables. It is not cheap repairing your car after every event and Citroen has a limited budget. If I were team manager I'd spend as much of the budget as humanly possible on development and beg, borrow and steal what funds I could to the team, while at the same time trying to keep my drivers on the road to maximize what is possible with said budget.

If I were team manager and had Meeke in my team right now, i'd cry blood as I saw the budget for development steadily shrink because I had to fix the car all of the time. Meeke will not have much merit left after this season. He had more than enough chances and he has shoved every single one of them in a tree, bush or a ditch somewhere!

Then wat was the excuse when hirvonen wasnt competitive in it after loeb left he didn bin. And guess what there was still no development then to make the car quicker. So were are your variables in that situation

[Mirek]

May I politely ask how do You know there was no developement after Loeb left?

[irish_tiger]

Kubica? I am very afraid for the people's safety when he is driving.

Oh so correct - i argue this all the time with people + from attending Rally Germany many times the spectator safety is not great ....

[itix]

FYI Finns are not "Scandinavians"... But you can say "Nordic".

Finland actually have a piece of the Scandic mountains so they are more scandinavian than Denmark in that respect... the reason Finland is not usually considered scandinavia is Because their language is not related to Swedish, Norwegian, Faroese or Icelandic (it is not even a Germanic Language).

Sometimes i say scandinavia about Finns and sometimes I call them Nordic. Swedish is a minority language in Finland also so ~5% speak a Scandinavian language (Including Marcus Grönholm).

[wia5958]

May I politely ask how do You know there was no developement after Loeb left?
If there was would hirvonen of left to go back to ford. If there was development happening he would of stayed to b in a car worthy of winning a championship. Would citroen of brought in 2 new drivers to develop their car further after hirvonen had 2 seasons of experience in it

[mas-racing]

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20wrc%20duitsland%202015_zpswlnqdzgk.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f57nnqo-cCY)

[Mirek]

If there was would hirvonen of left to go back to ford. If there was development happening he would of stayed to b in a car worthy of winning a championship. Would citroen of brought in 2 new drivers to develop their car further after hirvonen had 2 seasons of experience in it

So You know nothing. OK

[Lead]

Again Mikkelsen seems to be ''okay'' with 3rd place. Just cruising from the rally beginning behind Ogier and Latvala. I dont know, last season I felt he has much more in the tank for this year and I believed he had the speed to put pressure maybe not on Ogier but Latvala sure. It seems it will never happen until he is 3rd driver on VW team. If he will not change the team or whatever, he will be always remembered as "always 3rd", thats sad, cause I feel he has all the tools to be much much faster.

[dimviii]

Prokop tyre after his problem with driveshaft
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNAq4CCWsAA7sVc.jpg

[dimviii]

Meeke trying to find the road
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=88&v=9GSYpix4jNg

[AL14]

Again Mikkelsen seems to be ''okay'' with 3rd place. Just cruising from the rally beginning behind Ogier and Latvala. I dont know, last season I felt he has much more in the tank for this year and I believed he had the speed to put pressure maybe not on Ogier but Latvala sure. It seems it will never happen until he is 3rd driver on VW team. If he will not change the team or whatever, he will be always remembered as "always 3rd", thats sad, cause I feel he has all the tools to be much much faster.

Which tools? He's young but he drove his first WRC car when? 2007? I really don't know why everybody keep considering Mikkelsen as a beginner driver with so much room for improvement. I think if anything that his learning curve is not that high anymore.

[Lead]

Meeke trying to find the road
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=88&v=9GSYpix4jNg
That guy giving directions should get a medal. Isnt that the same place where Prokop went off?

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNAxBagWoAAx18P.jpg

https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/11951376_10153722148973641_8442318878149837873_n.j pg?oh=6d35979bd6504430c6fa508e82608cf4&oe=567EE3F0

http://www.rally3.de/components/com_joomgallery/img_pictures/2015_3111/rallye_deutschland_3334/album_2_3336/deutschland-2015-fr-wp7-mk-060_20150822_1091934271.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNA9yPjWcAArxiM.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meanwhile elsewhere in the world... :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNAgKVhW8AAr8uX.jpg:large

[dimviii]

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/37/65/Best_of_Rallye_Deutschland_2015_017_376565_55d82e2 c3.jpg
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[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNBWGQNUYAA83cJ.jpg

[dimviii]

Tanak
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNBKZJ2WwAAjMV1.jpg
Prokop
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNBLlFHWEAEqxAG.jpg

[dimviii]

http://www.autosportfoto.sk/images/gallery/adac-rallye-m-sport-stvrtok/big/144329-evans09de15sv029.jpg
http://www.autosportfoto.sk/images/gallery/adac-rallye-m-sport-stvrtok/big/144337-tanak09de15sv026.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNBQ_QIUEAQQdhE.jpg

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEFHwlRfEhs

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Still pretty close between the top two on SS15... suppose with no in-car splits they have to keep up the pace...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No team-orders: http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/august/no-team-orders/page/2729--12-12-.html

[Rallyper]

Mikkelsen not to fight it seems. Third for him is enough and back-up if 1st and 2nd fight end in ditch.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke in trouble again... slightly hits the fence inside the hairpin..
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNBIR7QWIAAV0EW.jpg:large

[Eli]

Tanak is off...
Edit: they got going again

[Eli]

15 seconds down from Ogier this stage so 32.3 seconds gap..yep i think it's safe to say the battelle for the lead is over...

[WUff1]

I think it's time for him to find something that suits him better aswell, Rallycross could be an option as it is on a track and those are well protected by barriers and such.

Also we forget how hard his limitations are, just yesterday I was watching the highlights and when Kubica was climbing to the podium without his car you could see his right hand really does not look good and it's movements are so strange, just unhappy for him to have his career destroyed by a sport he enjoyed so much.

He has been getting slower this season, too, and is still crash prone. After his last interview some weeks ago I don´t think he´ll stay in WRC after this season.

[Mirek]

Breen lost 3,5 minutes on first split...

[Mirek]

Seems like Kopecký wants to keep Prokop behind :)

[marcosg]

He has been getting slower this season, too, and is still crash prone. After his last interview some weeks ago I don´t think he´ll stay in WRC after this season.

he's been quick for sure... many times only beaten by vws and meeke... the crashes are the problem... loosing so much "track" time in this sport is fatal and he should be ready by now... i'm also of the opinion he is going to leave

[jbmarcus21]

My Video Shakedown Deutschland Rally https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5r99fcScR8

[Mirek]

Nasser now only 2 secs behind Breen and he seems to be capable of fight. Suninen another 6 seconds ahead of Breen. Could be a good fight now!

[tolis]

Puncture for Breen. :(

[Mirek]

Kreim was changing wheel in both runs of Panzerplatte...

Dumas +13 minutes on the penultimate split.

[marcosg]

great stage times from the adams. really close between them

[Mirek]

great stage times from the adams. really close between them

Griebel 30 seconds faster on Panzerplatte now but of course Berkvist is a lot of ahead anyway ;)

[peter_85]

Shouldn't this be a 1 min penalty...?
Of course it should.

[Antony Warmbold]

I avoid referring to Finland as Scandinavia altogether. And Finns in general prefer to be referred to as Nordics.

[marcosg]

Griebel 30 seconds faster on Panzerplatte now but of course Berkvist is a lot of ahead anyway ;)
:) he didnt deserve loosing all that time...

[Mirek]

I avoid referring to Finland as Scandinavia altogether. And Finns in general prefer to be referred to as Nordics.

Antony, can You please use quote function so that it's possible to see what are You reply to?

[Antony Warmbold]

Antony, can You please use quote function so that it's possible to see what are You reply to?

yes, I will... I messed up

[Rallyper]

Griebel 30 seconds faster on Panzerplatte now but of course Berkvist is a lot of ahead anyway ;)

I think timedifference is not representative for the whole rally though. Griebel and Bergkvist very much on same pace. Now Bergkvist on hunting for Gassner after losing time on both rounds on Pantzerplatte. Maybe tyre issue on the longest stage for Bergkvist? Anyone?

[Rallyper]

:) he didnt deserve loosing all that time...

Why? What happened?

[marcosg]

Why? What happened?
i think it was puncture

[itix]

Oh so correct - i argue this all the time with people + from attending Rally Germany many times the spectator safety is not great ....
I attended Monte and Deutschland last year and I have to say that Deutschland was many many times better... In Monte, some late arrival lower class person was let onto the stage (probably within the 15 minute rule and probably late into the start order) and everyone had already started walking down the stage to their cars. It was ridiculous. He was snailing up the mountain, dodging spectators in the hundreds... Happy he and the first batch of spectators didn't get a heart attack from that one (or worse...)

[Mirek]

Yes, Monte is crazy. I remember same scene with the British blond girl in Fiesta ST few years back. I forgot her name. Anyway from my experience in RMC You can do whatever You want if You are not on the most famous places where some police appears.

Nasser overtook both Breen and Suninen in this stage!

[itix]

If there was would hirvonen of left to go back to ford. If there was development happening he would of stayed to b in a car worthy of winning a championship. Would citroen of brought in 2 new drivers to develop their car further after hirvonen had 2 seasons of experience in it
And still Loeb was very competitive in that car before he went off in Alsace.

I'm sorry, I just don't buy that Meeke is unlucky or has to push to beat the rest. I had as much faith in him as everyone else but he just haven't delivered. The analogy with MacRae doesn't work either because MacRae stopped crashing and became consistent (ok... Lessened the amount of crashing is a better title).

Remember also that if Østberg didn't have the gearbox problems, he had a very strong chance for victory in Argentina.

I can't support Meeke anymore, I'm sorry. He'd crash just as much in a VW.

[irish_tiger]

I attended Monte and Deutschland last year and I have to say that Deutschland was many many times better... In Monte, some late arrival lower class person was let onto the stage (probably within the 15 minute rule and probably late into the start order) and everyone had already started walking down the stage to their cars. It was ridiculous. He was snailing up the mountain, dodging spectators in the hundreds... Happy he and the first batch of spectators didn't get a heart attack from that one (or worse...)


Yes, Monte is crazy. I remember same scene with the British blond girl in Fiesta ST few years back. I forgot her name. Anyway from my experience in RMC You can do whatever You want if You are not on the most famous places where some police appears.

Nasser overtook both Breen and Suninen in this stage!
Yes but where some of the people stand in the vineyards is absolutely crazy - i actually think some of them think if they stand behind a vine they are safe .You see from the you tube clips how close they stand to the road where there is an uneven jump where the cars land on one wheel first and could go out of shape - its a wonder there has nor been a big accident yet .....

[wia5958]

And still Loeb was very competitive in that car before he went off in Alsace.

So its ok for loeb to crash fighting at the front of field and not meeke. Fair enough then so

[itix]

Meanwhile elsewhere in the world... :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNAgKVhW8AAr8uX.jpg:large
They clearly haven't been to Circuit of Ireland!

Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

[Mirek]

So its ok for loeb to crash fighting at the front of field and not meeke. Fair enough then so

Not sure if serious...

[marcosg]

bergkvist out?

[marcosg]

it seems like it :)

[Rallyper]

it seems like it :)

So you´re happy now? I´d like some more politeness from you in the future. :(

[marcosg]

So you´re happy now? I´d like some more politeness from you in the future. :(
??? i was answering a post that was deleted afterwards...

[Mirek]

You were too quick. The post was here for 10 seconds as it was duplicate with Yours.

It was

Bergkvist out?

[Rallyper]

??? i was answering a post that was deleted afterwards...

OK. Otherwise you did answer your own question. And I thought you did... Let´s hope Mirek was polite but obviously he wasn´t.
Still the fact he´s out made you happy? Right?

[marcosg]

OK. Otherwise you did answer your own question. And I thought you did... Let´s hope Mirek was polite but obviously he wasn´t.
???

[Rallyper]

Looks like Bergkvist still on the run loosing 10 minutes to Gassner on SS17. Let´s see what happens.

[marcosg]

Looks like Bergkvist still on the run loosing 10 minutes to Gassner on SS17. Let´s see what happens.
on his facebook he says he retired on ss17 and hopes to restart tomorrow

[Rallyper]

on his facebook he says he retired on ss17 and hopes to restart tomorrow

Thanks. Dont have FB myself... He should use his Twitteraccount more often as well.

[dimviii]

borl day 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtasMMThyC8

[dimviii]

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_08_2015/post-330-0-46246200-1440266980.jpg
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and one for NOT
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNCVyCoW8AE12f-.jpg

[itix]

yes, I will... I messed up
No problem, I suspect you replied to me. My Finnish colleges when I was working there had no problems being called Scandinavians... Maybe they were laughing behind my back? Hahaha.

Regardless, it matters not :)
The point of the matter is that national rallying in the only two nations in the world that has Swedish as official language does not allow for asphalt rally experience. (but Mirek is right regardless... Lappi should have asphalt experience by now given his stint at Skoda motorsport).

[Mirek]

One nice tricky place in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2hA3XkeCVs

[itix]

So its ok for loeb to crash fighting at the front of field and not meeke. Fair enough then so
Every single rally driver has crashed at one point or the other... The number of crashes Meeke has had though is ridiculously high. Even Tänaks worst season in 2012 pales in comparison... And Tänak was very much dropped after that season, Meeke got a second season. I'd loose my jaw, never to refind it, should he get a third one.

Come on... This is beyond unimpressive.

[itix]

OK. Otherwise you did answer your own question. And I thought you did... Let´s hope Mirek was polite but obviously he wasn´t.
Still the fact he´s out made you happy? Right?
Easy there, we can't let our national pride get in the way here!

I am sure he tried to politely answer the question, nothing more.

Massive shame about Bergkvist :(

[Mirek]

Maurin big moment in the same place as Tänak: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPHyrUJ9krg

Neuville onboard Arena Panzerplatte: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G1XFWySiAQ

Not really interesting except looots of spectators.

[Rallyper]

It´s not. name any young driver having same pace on every surface like Emil has. No way you´ll find any in Europe. He is a coming man if developing like he did last two yrs.

[dodge33cymru]

Every single rally driver has crashed at one point or the other... The number of crashes Meeke has had though is ridiculously high. Even Tänaks worst season in 2012 pales in comparison... And Tänak was very much dropped after that season, Meeke got a second season. I'd loose my jaw, never to refind it, should he get a third one.

Come on... This is beyond unimpressive.
It depends what you want. 2nd place in the constructors championship or the only person worth showing in the Day 1 coverage for each day mixing it with the VWs.

They've got Ostberg for points and he's doing a good, Hirvonen-esque job in the overall championship. They're not going to find more consistent than that on the market and they're not going to find someone capable of Meeke's speed. Anyone saying "Meeke isn't that fast" thinks waaaaay too much of that Citroen.

It's a shame he's not able to put together finishes, but he is literally the only person able to take it to Ogier and Latvala on pace in an inferior car.

Back to the rally, everyone seems to be fulfilling their usual form of the season. Meeke and Tanak have been fast and crashed, Evans and Ostberg have been slow and consistent, Neuville has been very poor by the standards expected of him (regardless of the car, he should be comfortably beating Sordo if he's the clear #1) and Mikkelsen continues to show he's no Ogier or Latvala.

[Mirek]

Some accidents from Panzerplatte with a perfect placed GoPro...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2d1RWaSGvA

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak feeds his Fiesta WRC on leaves..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNCRbbaW8AA6a04.jpg:large

[Mirek]

Video from day 2. Some huge understeering from Fords there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2d1RWaSGvA

[Fast Eddie WRC]

More big cuts...

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5679/20790045685_c592a4204e_b.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/769/20763793866_9e82b36a0f_b.jpg

[itix]

It´s not. name any young driver having same pace on every surface like Emil has. No way you´ll find any in Europe. He is a coming man if developing like he did last two yrs.
Not sure you understood me correctly. I meant it was a shame that he punctured, I was cheering for him too.

Jag är också svensk förstår du!

[itix]

It depends what you want. 2nd place in the constructors championship or the only person worth showing in the Day 1 coverage for each day mixing it with the VWs.

They've got Ostberg for points and he's doing a good, Hirvonen-esque job in the overall championship. They're not going to find more consistent than that on the market and they're not going to find someone capable of Meeke's speed. Anyone saying "Meeke isn't that fast" thinks waaaaay too much of that Citroen.

It's a shame he's not able to put together finishes, but he is literally the only person able to take it to Ogier and Latvala on pace in an inferior car.

Back to the rally, everyone seems to be fulfilling their usual form of the season. Meeke and Tanak have been fast and crashed, Evans and Ostberg have been slow and consistent, Neuville has been very poor by the standards expected of him (regardless of the car, he should be comfortably beating Sordo if he's the clear #1) and Mikkelsen continues to show he's no Ogier or Latvala.
Meeke and Østberg are usually on the same pace with Meeke being a tad bit faster except on asphalt where Meeke is clearly faster (or Østberg clearly slower I should say... He is very unimpressive on asphalt).

That's why Østberg usually inherit Meeke position when he crash. I don't expect Østberg to be a future champion... I did believe that Meeke could become a champion one a year ago when I saw his pace... I thought about him like I thought about Kubica; "they'll become more steady when they gain experience of their cars and the top level competition".

I have now changed my mind on both of them *sigh*

Regarding the rally, no big surprises (except maybe Neuville... What on earth happened to him?).

[marcosg]

Regarding the rally, no big surprises (except maybe Neuville... What on earth happened to him?).

i think its just a simple case of no motivation... he wants to fight for wins and no matter how much he tries the car isnt enough

[N.O.T]

i think its just a simple case of no motivation... he wants to fight for wins and no matter how much he tries the car isnt enough

he is being beaten by his team mates as well...

[Mariusz]

Robert is coming back tomorrow :)

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/sexUYnosXlM


173km/h....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNC1frgXAAEbj-d.jpg

[dimviii]

Prokop trying to find the road
https://youtu.be/gl4mGKt86Fw

[Mirek]

Same place as Meeke?

[dimviii]

yes looks same.

[Rallyper]

Not sure you understood me correctly. I meant it was a shame that he punctured, I was cheering for him too.

Jag är också svensk förstår du!

Jo, det har jag väl fattat. Men när folk sätter smileys efter att ha konstaterat att Emil är ute så blir jag inte glad, om man säger. Och nationalistisk är det sista jag är, även om jag ibland haussar svenskar som är värda det. Emil är en av två just nu.
Om du vill får du skicka privat meddelande.

[AL14]

It's a shame he's not able to put together finishes, but he is literally the only person able to take it to Ogier and Latvala on pace in an inferior car.


I thought the same for a while but now no more excuses. I've supported him but now I don't think this statement is valid anymore. You have a pace if you can take it but if you can't then that is not a pace. It's just speed here and there. Most of other drivers can take on Ogier and Latvala if they drive crazy like Meeke does but they don't do it because they know that in a 400km events it is just not possible.

Furthermore. What really make me loose all the hopes is that he is not able to go 95% either because even when he is in a cruising position he crashes anyway. Maybe this is also Matton's fault and big pressure but in a world championship you're not allowed to do that kind of mistakes, or at least not that much.

[AL14]

Jo, det har jag väl fattat. Men när folk sätter smileys efter att ha konstaterat att Emil är ute så blir jag inte glad, om man säger. Och nationalistisk är det sista jag är, även om jag ibland haussar svenskar som är värda det. Emil är en av två just nu.
Om du vill får du skicka privat meddelande.

Can't agree more LOL.

[AL14]

I think everyone will agree this is the winner of N.O.T's award,

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[N.O.T]

even the grapes are out of focus...

[N.O.T]

if i ever become a celebrity i will not have a bodyguard i will have a man carrying a bunch of grapes...

it seems they have a magnetic attraction effect on autistic fotographers so they might work with paparazzi as well...

[denkimi]

I thought the same for a while but now no more excuses. I've supported him but now I don't think this statement is valid anymore. You have a pace if you can take it but if you can't then that is not a pace. It's just speed here and there. Most of other drivers can take on Ogier and Latvala if they drive crazy like Meeke does but they don't do it because they know that in a 400km events it is just not possible.

Furthermore. What really make me loose all the hopes is that he is not able to go 95% either because even when he is in a cruising position he crashes anyway. Maybe this is also Matton's fault and big pressure but in a world championship you're not allowed to do that kind of mistakes, or at least not that much.

perhaps you have forgotten how many times latavala has crashed when leading or cruising? remember rally germany 2013 or 2014, mexico or monte 2012, argentina 2011, ...
and he has almost 10 years of experience.

[N.O.T]

perhaps you have forgotten how many times latavala has crashed when leading or cruising? remember rally germany 2013 or 2014, mexico or monte 2012, argentina 2011, ...
and he has almost 10 years of experience.

yes but latvala wins as well... also latvala had daddy to pay the teams to keep his son in the team when things got bad plus latvala is still 28 years old, not even in his prime rally years by average champions age.

[Zeakiwi]

Ogier 31 Latvala 30 Meeke 36 Ostberg 27

Would Citroen adopt the Ostberg + event specialist + junior driver strategy for 2017

[itix]

Ogier 31 Latvala 30 Meeke 36 Ostberg 27

Would Citroen adopt the Ostberg + event specialist + junior driver strategy for 2017

What are these numbers if I may ask?

[lewalcindor]

^ Ages of drivers, I guess.

[smsgrafica]

http://mediaevent.michelin.com/albums/PRESS/03_COMPETITION/competition-auto/FIA%20WRC/2015/09_Rally_Deutschland/20150112673_OGIER.JPG

[rallysupportnl]

Video Day 2 WRC ADAC Rallye Deutschland 2015:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z0r1HSVbn0

[Salist]

Live coverage about Power Stage?

[dimviii]

excellent spots
https://youtu.be/ApPJvPcQQ98

[Duvel]

Does anyone know where i can find statistics about car speeds on the stages?
we where wondering how fast the top wrc drivers where going.nIn the vineyaerds in between two hairpins on grafshaft for instance.
we did that stage whit a normal road car, we reached 140k/ph easy, whitout doing crazy things. Canthey reach 180k/ph ?

[6789]

You could watch WRC+ onboard footage - it includes speed.

[Salist]

Thanks.


You could watch WRC+ onboard footage - it includes speed.

[Eli]

why does wrc.com & wrc+ shows that Paddon is 60th place??

[dimviii]

MICHELIN Motorsport ‏@michelin_sport
#tyre information: all #WRC Michelin drivers with 5 MICHELIN Pilot Sport H5 (hard) except VW with 5H+1S

[Mirek]

Does anyone know where i can find statistics about car speeds on the stages?
we where wondering how fast the top wrc drivers where going.nIn the vineyaerds in between two hairpins on grafshaft for instance.
we did that stage whit a normal road car, we reached 140k/ph easy, whitout doing crazy things. Canthey reach 180k/ph ?

Maybe wrc.com will give us onboard with speed from telemetry but otherwise there is no chance unless You know someone from some team to share You their data (or someone with a speed gun on the stage). Anyway the top speed of these WRC cars is a little bit over 200 km/h and I think that they can reach it in some places.

Onboards from ERC are usually with speed inside if You need to have some idea :) For example Breen from Ireland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9ZCTciTwxY or Loix from Ypres: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbnLHupr_Eg or Breen from Acores (first part is asphalt with gravel tyres): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQo6zzkaCz4

[RS]

I thought Al-Attiyah would try to overtake Giordano but it seems not.

[Mirek]

I thought Al-Attiyah would try to overtake Giordano but it seems not.

I think he he is trying...

[RS]

I think he he is trying...

Really? He was slower than Kopecky on this stage and i think Kopecký was cruising since about ss2.

[dimviii]

#38 flag Al-Attiyah Nasser - Baumel Matthieu "I tried to catch but it's not enough."

[Racing Ka]

Any links to a TV stream?

[Mirek]

Really? He was slower than Kopecky on this stage and i think Kopecký was cruising since about ss2.

Which just means that Kopecký is faster driver on asphalt which is true. Nasser made 20 seconds on Giordano since this morning. If You think that it means he is not trying...

[tolis]

Any links to a TV stream?

http://cricfree.tv/watch/live/fia-world-rally-championship-live-streaming

[dimviii]

Ostberg spun

[dimviii]

Mads Østberg ‏@MadsOstberg
SS21 - Dhrontal 2 Power Stage (14.08km)
"I had a spin in a slow corner, I had to reverse. I'm happy with our progress"

Citroën Racing ‏@CitroenRacing
#WRC SS21 @MadsOstberg 9:21.4 "I has a spin in a slow corner. I had to reverse and lost 10". I'm starting to enjoy the tarmac."

lol

[N.O.T]

Latvala almost had a crash... i think he touched a wall.

[dimviii]

congrats to Ogier Ingrassia for a faultless rally.Well deserved win,showed who is the boss

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNFouDOWUAA1WlS.jpg

[AL14]

Nice rally. Ogier deserved it and good drive by Latvala that did not throws points away as always but understood Seb was just too fast (although he was loosing everything on that moment on PS).
Nice drive in WRC2 for Sordo which won in his class and very good debut by Lefebvre, didn't expect such pace from him.

[Ucci]

Congrats to VW for 1-2-3!! Again, like or not, it must be confessed-Mr.Ogier is in class of its own. No mistake, no flat tyre, nothing...I didn't have feeling that he pushed much (execpt on Panzerplatte), and others didn't stand a chance.
And looking to the classement- I have a strange feeling that new Fabia R5 is just a Polo WRC in different "skin". Kopecky humiliated the opposition....

[Sulland]

Mads Østberg ‏@MadsOstberg
SS21 - Dhrontal 2 Power Stage (14.08km)
"I had a spin in a slow corner, I had to reverse. I'm happy with our progress"

Citroën Racing ‏@CitroenRacing
#WRC SS21 @MadsOstberg 9:21.4 "I has a spin in a slow corner. I had to reverse and lost 10". I'm starting to enjoy the tarmac."

lol

Not sure how much Citroen invests in Mads to train and improve on asphalt?
A few sessions with Loeb would not hurt.
As most Nordic drivers he lacks basic asphalt training from when he stared driving. Tough to catch up to the best, and to trust the tires to stick, when used to sliding...

[AndyRAC]

Not sure how much Citroen invests in Mads to train and improve on asphalt?
A few sessions with Loeb would not hurt.
As most Nordic drivers he lacks basic asphalt training from when he stared driving. Tough to catch up to the best, and to trust the tires to stick, when used to sliding...

I have wondered that. But, are they really bothered? If they were surely they'd give him some training; maybe some French events, plus maybe some circuit racing.

[Eli]

so how much points do VW & Ogier need to rack it up in the next round, Australia?

[rallysupportnl]

Video highlights WRC ADAC Rallye Deutschland 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouvhiL0VsXg
http://i59.tinypic.com/316t6v9.jpg (https://youtu.be/ouvhiL0VsXg)

[NoFear85]

if I count right, Ogier need 10 point in Australia and JML must win all other rally and take +3 from power stages, now it is 93 point difference, after Australia they have 84 more points

[JoostSchouten]

Wow, we had a great Deutschland Rallye this year. In the last 14 years we visited we never saw such fast sections as this year.
So much commitment from the drivers. Impressive VWs but also great speed from drivers like Paddon, Neuville, Evans and Lefebvre!

Click here for the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jfDe12UgoI
http://i61.tinypic.com/seay51.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jfDe12UgoI)

[N.O.T]

next time focus more on hairpins rivers and grapes...

[GigiGalliNo1]

^^^ True.

What would you like from Australia photographic wise N.O.T?

[EightGear]

^^^ true.

What would you like from australia photographic wise n.o.t?
kangaroos!

[N.O.T]

^^^ True.

What would you like from Australia photographic wise N.O.T?

it is going to be a challenge there... no rivers no lakes no grapes and not many hairpins... the autistic pros might actually be forced to take pictures of some action this time... the horror !!! the big orange rocks might save the day though we will see.

[Rallyper]

Emil Bergkvist showed which driver who could gear up on last stage. The difference shows more than well how talented he is.

[Mirek]

Sorry Per, I understand You are a fan of Emil but the last stage shows exactly nothing as Griebel had 8,5 minutes lead and had totally nothing to prove there. We all know that Bergkvist and Griebel have been very similar in speed through the whole season with Emil having the edge mainly on gravel events.

[Rallyper]

Sorry Per, I understand You are a fan of Emil but the last stage shows exactly nothing as Griebel had 8,5 minutes lead and had totally nothing to prove there. We all know that Bergkvist and Griebel have been very similar in speed through the whole season with Emil having the edge mainly on gravel events.

Sorry Mirek, we see things from both sides. Nothing less. So Kopecky should have been 30 secs after Lappi on last stage as well, you think? Emil shows pace better than anyone i RC4 even on tarmac.
Besides I´m a fan of everyone showing guts and mental stregth.

[marcosg]

Emil Bergkvist showed which driver who could gear up on last stage. The difference shows more than well how talented he is.
no he didnt... he has been showing that on many different occasions... not on this last stage

[Mirek]

Sorry Mirek, we see things from both sides. Nothing less. So Kopecky should have been 30 secs after Lappi on last stage as well, you think?

If he felt comfortable with that why not? I know that Jan prefers to keep some reasonable speed to make less mistakes but other may have it different. It's absolutely silly to come a to a conclusion that the winner is slow because he cruised through the last stage having near 10 minutes lead. Griebel could have go through the stage on reverse if he liked to do so and he would still win.


Emil shows pace better than anyone i RC4 even on tarmac.

This event showed nothing. Fiesta R2T is a joke compared to Adam in speed and the two were fighting only for first three or four stages (where Griebel was ahead). After that first Griebel hit problems and later also Bergkvist. JERC events are different story as there is completely different level of competition. There Emil proved himself. Here not. There was nobody to fight with except Griebel and it was Griebel who won.


Besides I´m a fan of everyone showing guts and mental stregth.

So please don't make silly assumption like now...

[marcosg]

https://youtu.be/-jfDe12UgoI

flat out

[306 Cosworth]

Well that was a dull rally after Finland. Doubt Australia will be much better, and then boring Corsica after it!

[MJW]

Well that was a dull rally after Finland. Doubt Australia will be much better, and then boring Corsica after it!
Watch this


https://youtu.be/-jfDe12UgoI

flat out
I don't think that is dull at all, - watch the above video.
OK Australia could well be dull, I have never taken to an Eastern Rally Australia, Perth was a good event.

[Rallyper]

If he felt comfortable with that why not? I know that Jan prefers to keep some reasonable speed to make less mistakes but other may have it different. It's absolutely silly to come a to a conclusion that the winner is slow because he cruised through the last stage having near 10 minutes lead. Griebel could have go through the stage on reverse if he liked to do so and he would still win.



This event showed nothing. Fiesta R2T is a joke compared to Adam in speed and the two were fighting only for first three or four stages (where Griebel was ahead). After that first Griebel hit problems and later also Bergkvist. JERC events are different story as there is completely different level of competition. There Emil proved himself. Here not. There was nobody to fight with except Griebel and it was Griebel who won.



So please don't make silly assumption like now...

Well, well, explanations, explanations. Time will tell. I hope both guys will develope to be top drivers in the future. They are very equal. For sure. Let´s wait and see.

[dimviii]

borl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=15&v=QPbyTR162d0



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNGjiOzWgAAyKqS.jpg

[Eli]

http://www.maxrally.com/2015/08/23/maxrally-heroes-and-zeroes-germany-sunday
sum up today pretty nicely

[Rally Power]

No team-orders: http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/august/no-team-orders/page/2729--12-12-.html

For sure...VW didn't previously won in Germany and they were easily doing 1-2-3. Makes all sense to let your drivers fight like maniacs!

I really feel sorry for Latvala. He's the only guy that can give a fight to Ogier but the pressure of knowing that the french is the clear favorite in VW team is a heavy burden.

Nice perf from Sordo and Evans in a no story rally...

[marcosg]

I really feel sorry for Latvala. He's the only guy that can give a fight to Ogier but the pressure of knowing that the french is the clear favorite in VW team is a heavy burden.


i wouldn´t be so sure that's the case... i doubt it is...

[itix]

Nice rally. Ogier deserved it and good drive by Latvala that did not throws points away as always but understood Seb was just too fast (although he was loosing everything on that moment on PS).
Nice drive in WRC2 for Sordo which won in his class and very good debut by Lefebvre, didn't expect such pace from him.
Sordo, WRC 2?
Ok the Hyundai isn't the fastest and yes, they are building an R5 car but calling him a WRC 2 driver is a tad much.

Maybe you were ironic since vw is a class of their own.

[AL14]

Sordo, WRC 2?
Ok the Hyundai isn't the fastest and yes, they are building an R5 car but calling him a WRC 2 driver is a tad much.

Maybe you were ironic since vw is a class of their own.

I was, mate :)

[AL14]

F
I really feel sorry for Latvala. He's the only guy that can give a fight to Ogier but the pressure of knowing that the french is the clear favorite in VW team is a heavy burden.

I felt sorry for him when I saw this. It hurts a bit to be honest. Cheering your rival when he has beaten you another time.
http://images.wrc.com/News/2015/August/6660_ogier-shoulders-germany-2015_999_944x531.jpg?1440334894

You are right it is a heavy burden but I don't know if it is a good idea to leave that car away.

[EstWRC]

What a boring rally and what a dissapointing performances from the guys i looked most for, Paddon and Tänak. Yeah they both don't have the experience and struggled with set-up, which counts a lot here but they didn't even try to push. Didn't expect to see stage wins from them but expected to see at least TOP 4-6 stage times and some development.
The new Fiesta doesn't seem to be very good on tarmac, you could already see it on super special stages on other rallies and Kubica also said that the car isn't doing what he wants to do.

Waiting for Australia already where Paddon promised to go for a win :)

[stefanvv]

What a boring rally and what a dissapointing performances from the guys i looked most for, Paddon and Tänak. Yeah they both don't have the experience and struggled with set-up, which counts a lot here but they didn't even try to push. Didn't expect to see stage wins from them but expected to see at least TOP 4-6 stage times and some development.
The new Fiesta doesn't seem to be very good on tarmac, you could already see it on super special stages on other rallies and Kubica also said that the car isn't doing what he wants to do.

Paddon had some turbo pressure issues at some point. But we shouldn't had expected podium from him anyway. This year it all went to VW and it was well deserved. Big congrats to all of them.
I don't agree the rally was boring, it was really fast rally with some fights and looking at the coverages it was really nice event. Of course it is little boring for most people Ogier to win almost every time, but that's the challenge currently. And seems no one is capable to take away his crown yet, perhaps for several more years to come.

[stefanvv]

I felt sorry for him when I saw this. It hurts a bit to be honest. Cheering your rival when he has beaten you another time.
http://images.wrc.com/News/2015/August/6660_ogier-shoulders-germany-2015_999_944x531.jpg?1440334894


Only the throne is missing yet!

[Racing Ka]

This event showed nothing. Fiesta R2T is a joke compared to Adam in speed and the two were fighting only for first three or four stages (where Griebel was ahead).

I think Adam did have a huge advantage of Michelin tyres vs Fiesta road legal Dmacks.
Why we don´t see Adam more on private drivers as it have been around over 2 years?

[marcosg]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sim9AvIfGE4&feature=em-uploademail

ostbergs mistake powerstage

[marcosg]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/qwD6jbBNflE?rel=0

longer with a nice balance between wrc and wrc2 cars

[Rallyper]

I think Adam did have a huge advantage of Michelin tyres vs Fiesta road legal Dmacks.
Why we don´t see Adam more on private drivers as it have been around over 2 years?

I would like to see national Adam cup rallies supported by the factory and national importer. Should be a boost for youngsters.

[MartijnS]

As most of you guys have already seen Joost his video. Here are my photos made at mostly the same spots haha. Great edition for us. Visited a new part of the Panzerplatte, always nice to see some new sections there, fun practice village, fast downhill. Great area!

My photos are online now.

http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2015/rallyedeutschland/05157371.jpg

http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2015/rallyedeutschland/92282921.jpg

http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2015/rallyedeutschland/57298280.jpg

http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2015/rallyedeutschland/46022969.jpg

http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2015/rallyedeutschland/95850490.jpg

As usual more at our Facebook Page (http://facebook.com/rallymedia) or our Website (http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2015/rallyedeutschland/rallyedeutschland.html) !

[Mirek]

I think Adam did have a huge advantage of Michelin tyres vs Fiesta road legal Dmacks.
Why we don´t see Adam more on private drivers as it have been around over 2 years?

It's true that the tyres played a role but still the difference was huuuge.

I think that the main reason why there isn't that many Adams is that Opel sells only complete cars, not kits like PSA. Anyway there is quite a good number of Adams in JERC including private ones (Zawada or Tannert). Here in CZ we have this year an Adam Cup like they have in Germany or France. It's run with the cup version of the car under national homologation to keep the cost down.

[Rallyper]

It's true that the tyres played a role but still the difference was huuuge.

I think that the main reason why there isn't that many Adams is that Opel sells only complete cars, not kits like PSA. Anyway there is quite a good number of Adams in JERC including private ones (Zawada or Tannert). Here in CZ we have this year an Adam Cup like they have in Germany or France. It's run with the cup version of the car under national homologation to keep the cost down.

If only swedish national association would sanction such cup. Would be great!

[Mirek]

Quite spectacular big moment of Suninen at 6:05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywMWeVS1Lp8

[GigiGalliNo1]

Some rallies are a team effort, in this case, Andreas and JML were Ogier's thrown. I see no problem as, could we all really see JML catching Ogier in the last day?

[Hartusvuori]

Quite spectacular big moment of Suninen at 6:05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywMWeVS1Lp8

One DDFT crew slid rear end first off road there, lost rear window. On first run 00 car spun. Last year VIP car rolled there which caused the half an hour delay then. There's something wicked about that particular hairpin.

[Andre Oliveira]

http://www.ewrc-results.com/foto.php?e=19127&t=ADAC-Rallye-Deutschland-2015

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2015/photos/adac_rallye_deutschland_2015/mn_027.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2015/photos/adac_rallye_deutschland_2015/mn_091.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2015/photos/adac_rallye_deutschland_2015/grr_img_8426.jpg

[dimviii]

Latvala hot moment at ,22

https://youtu.be/WEf7Dyh_fZI

[dimviii]

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_08_2015/post-50-0-11235100-1440425443.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-T8mnhmuCHNM/VdrcmzjIoBI/AAAAAAAABIc/z5TMdyIvkuA/w750-h577-no/P1030960.JPG
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Ni4hY1OL99Q/Vdrcg99f32I/AAAAAAAABHU/oKN0A4Vf9B0/w749-h577-no/P1040206.JPG
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-l0novULbEQ8/VdrcaywGrJI/AAAAAAAABGc/Pwph4nVyY_s/w750-h577-no/P1040835.JPG

[dimviii]

nice video
https://youtu.be/2RR_-4uyaeg

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/ixpaaPGZd-c

[Devillersvideo]

My video of this very good Deutschland Rallye :D Maximum attack!

https://youtu.be/ApPJvPcQQ98

751

752

[dimviii]

My video of this very good Deutschland Rallye :D Maximum attack!


i ve already post it.
Very nice video,with nice spots!
Keep up the good work mate! http://www.petrolheads.gr/images/smilies/smooth/thumbsup.gif

[dimviii]

Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally
Continuing the debate about suicide pics! Sent this by a driver, tells me he had zero margin for error after big cut!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNLchiLWsAAacvx.jpg
Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally
Colin Clark retweeted Michael Molz
To my many photog friends. I know none of you would do this, but what would be the benefit to standing here?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNKBMKJVEAE818w.jpg

[gianni123]

Video - WRC ADAC Rallye Deutschland 2015 (HD)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o67mwYavLEs

[janvanvurpa]

Interesting quote from Nasser's team boss that the engine failure was caused by the driver having his foot on the clutch for too long...

You understand how that works to lead to failure don't you?

[SpeedEstRacing]

My vidéo of Day 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbAdz6B7rEU

[HaCo]

Spectators were very lucky where Maurin went of the first day. When I first saw the video of Tanak I thought: those spectators are in the wrong place. Wonder if they went away after Maurin, or stupid enough to stay there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsO_xYrWnoQ

[HaCo]

One more angle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBwtfuyGodE

Stupidity rules :(

[dimviii]

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/38/08/Best_of_Rallye_Deutschland_2015_061_380853_55dac39 55.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/37/86/Best_of_Rallye_Deutschland_2015_045_378654_55d97a5 44.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/37/80/Best_of_Rallye_Deutschland_2015_043_378068_55d8e8c 58.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/37/76/Best_of_Rallye_Deutschland_2015_036_377690_55d8dd2 5b.jpg

[stefanvv]

great videos!

[dimviii]

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/38/06/Rallye_Deutschland_2015_LA_050_380654_55dac15bd.jp g
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/37/64/Rallye_Deutschland_2015_LA_015_376433_55d82d826.jp g
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[dimviii]

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/37/69/Rallye_Deutschland_2015_NM_025_376916_55d83d6c1.jp g
http://forum.rallye-magazin.de/attachments/rallye-videos-filme-bilder/74755d1440415607-f-v-rallye-deutschland-2015-rallye_d_2015_kl_0009.jpg
https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/11951863_1086557261369302_5710929494798005383_n.jp g?oh=7f5a8a03a36f9f11502ca72212bd14ae&oe=568066D3
https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11898542_1086559584702403_7481876792535460341_n.jp g?oh=1dd82d4ebbcbf3831b3dd7bffc3f34a2&oe=5682053F

[dimviii]

flying Adam
https://youtu.be/Yv9jZFQAyD4

[dimviii]

Ostberg spin inside
https://youtu.be/pPefMP_vbcM

[dimviii]

nice slow motion video
https://youtu.be/1F1KrmMZ6uA

[CameraMan]

Just back from Germany to Lithuania. And made my first WRC video: http://www.rally-video.eu/rally/wrc-adac-rallye-deutschland-2015/

As it was my first WRC rally the video not good as other cameraman's but hope you will like it or give comments what's bad and what need to improve :)

[AL14]

Ostberg spin inside
https://youtu.be/pPefMP_vbcM

What the hell were they doing at 6:49???

[dimviii]

As it was my first WRC rally the video not good as other cameraman's but hope you will like it or give comments what's bad and what need to improve :)

nice video as first atempt.Imho you have to choose different spots.Your spots you choosed,are slow spots(brakes&brakes&brakes to turn a slow corner)
when the car pass in front of you,and go away, i would like a little zoom at this point.
my 2 cents.

[dimviii]

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2015/photos/adac_rallye_deutschland_2015/fpr_img_6158.jpg

[itix]

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/38/08/Best_of_Rallye_Deutschland_2015_061_380853_55dac39 55.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/37/86/Best_of_Rallye_Deutschland_2015_045_378654_55d97a5 44.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/37/80/Best_of_Rallye_Deutschland_2015_043_378068_55d8e8c 58.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/37/76/Best_of_Rallye_Deutschland_2015_036_377690_55d8dd2 5b.jpg

N.o.t. even N.O.T can hate these, Fantastic shots!

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNKnjRfUcAAbWbS.jpg


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNPD8XmWEAAIGkJ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNPD8afWwAANvok.jpg

[dimviii]

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2015/photos/adac_rallye_deutschland_2015/ine_dsc_1938.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2015/photos/adac_rallye_deutschland_2015/ine_dsc_1956.jpg


http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=19127&fotograf=43

[dimviii]

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2015/photos/adac_rallye_deutschland_2015/mac_mch11461.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2015/photos/adac_rallye_deutschland_2015/mac_mch20021.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2015/photos/adac_rallye_deutschland_2015/mac_mch10732.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2015/photos/adac_rallye_deutschland_2015/mac_mch10205.jpg

http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=19127&fotograf=283

[dimviii]

for NOT

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNSCENWWIAA2dxy.jpg:large

[N.O.T]

actually i like this one.

[itix]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNPD8XmWEAAIGkJ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNPD8afWwAANvok.jpg

I'm curious about the photographer dude... if one of the cars were to lose control and hit that bale, how is he going to escape being crushed by rally car PLUS hay bale?

[AL14]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNKnjRfUcAAbWbS.jpg


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNPD8XmWEAAIGkJ.jpg


Is it a loincloth?

[ziggysony]

my Video ADAC Ralley Deutschland 2015 https://youtu.be/UEynYY1G_v8 ;)

[Hartusvuori]

RALLIRINKI photo gallery from Deutschland:
http://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Rallye+Deutschland+2015/

[sete]

my gallery on web:
http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1382

[wizaron]

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5787/20711265069_25977158dc.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5699/20711266469_30953193da.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/749/20275440574_964a18820a.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5808/20888458262_b75d112b64.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5633/20277019533_2a3e6c5aa3.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5820/20898031135_ff57bacf8f.jpg

[vytophoto]

Photo gallery from the rally: service zone, start ceremony, special stages and podium ceremony.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.888750581174324.1073741919.140234339359289&type=3

[Ounin]

Due to holiday my pics of Deutschland have been delayed some weeks, but better late than never
http://www.rickautosportpictures.com/144/Deutschland%20Rally%20%2715