ADAC Rallye Deutschland 2015

[Rallyper]

Ten minutes to SS3 and the cars are long way from start of stage. What´s going on? Even though WRC+ cant put the startline from the right direction...

[Eli]

finally wrc radio working again..

[Rallyper]

Tidemand is missing on this event. Has won it before, hasn´t he?

[tolis]

Tidemand is missing on this event. Has won it before, hasn´t he?

Yes, last year.

[Mirek]

Tidemand is missing on this event. Has won it before, hasn´t he?

Each Kopecký and Tidemand have 4 events. This time it's Kopecký's turn.

[AL14]

Tidemand is missing on this event. Has won it before, hasn´t he?

Yes, last year.

[dimviii]

nice pace from Lefebvre so far.

[dimviii]

Latvala ss1
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=881142305307073

https://video-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xft1/v/t42.1790-2/11864586_881142825307021_674153066_n.mp4?efg=eyJyb HIiOjg1MSwicmxhIjo1MTJ9&rl=851&vabr=473&oh=ed17dfe18c1876396e6e69e569de2f86&oe=55D70318

[dimviii]

Maurin spin,Delecour off the road but continues.

[dimviii]

Esapekka Lappi Rally ‏@EsapekkaLappi
SS2: Off. Crew Ok. #shit

[AL14]

Latvala 1.4s faster at first split!

[Rallyper]

Each Kopecký and Tidemand have 4 events. This time it's Kopecký's turn.

I know, but think it´s waste to let the young gun stay at home with his record.

[itix]

Yes, last year.

Was there, saw him win! Proud swedish moment hahaha.

[Mirek]

I know, but think it´s waste to let the young gun stay at home with his record.

He was driving Malaysia rally last weekend. It would be quite tough to do also Germany and start recce directly after flying from Malaysia...

[HaCo]

23,4km... Hope not major abandons or offs.

[arko5]

Latvala 1.4s faster at first split!
Do you have a splits??

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS3
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM69UsbU8AAWi9L.jpg:large

[HaCo]

Do you have a splits??

Yes, on wrc.com. 1,9 faster now!

[HaCo]

14:03 for Ogier. Let's see what Latvala can do.

Only 0,5 on the third split.

[Mariusz]

Splits are working when using Firefox, for me at least. You could try to clean cache as well.

[HaCo]

Good first split by Meeke, only ,8 down.

[HaCo]

Latvala takes the lead!

[AL14]

Do you have a splits??

Yes, on WRC+.

Nice one by Latvala, hope the battle keeps going till the end

[HaCo]

Ostberg really slow, hope he can improve in the afternoon.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM6_2XLWIAAKwDr.jpg:large

[HaCo]

That is very nice Eddie!

[Eli]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM6_2XLWIAAKwDr.jpg:large

Big like!!!

[EightGear]

Meeke going well in here.

[JTGANG]

Bouffier fastest in SS2

[Negaiss]

Ui ui ui ! Ogier and Latvala in legue of their own. This pace is too fast to maintain. Battle will end because one will go off. Who will it be ? This time Ogier is my guess - he does not like presurre.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS3: OGIER
"Last year I went off in here and perhaps I was a bit too cautious. I'm not driving perfectly.

[HaCo]

Bouffier fastest in SS2

Excellent pace by Bouffier!!!

[Eli]

problems for Meeke...Sh**!!!

[itix]

"Fri 09:30 WRC - Germany: Trouble for Meeke, although he's only lost 2s to the leading VWs, he's smacked a rear wheel hard near the end of that stage and there's damage."
Bye bye Meeke! Welcome Lefebvre

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke... achtung !

[itix]

Only three stages in, this is ridiculous!

[HaCo]

FRI 11:30 - SS3: NEUVILLE
7.7sec slower than Latvala but Thierry was hoping for better. "Tired and frustrated. I had the feeling that I pushed quite hard and that I had done a good stage. Without the understeer we could have been quicker."

Maybe he should ditch Hyundai for Ford.

[HaCo]

Not at all, the first stages they push the hardest. Going off the last day with no pressure, that is ridiculous.

[itix]

In any other case I would agree with you, but given his record this year, any point of the rally is ridiculous right now! Frigging shunting a bumper car would be ridiculous in his case right now.

His GPS dot was stationary for maybe 4 minutes, now on the move again. Hopefully it is just a damaged rim. Really not the kind of things he need to be doing right now!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shame for Evans losing the handbrake - the event that you dont want that to happen. :(

[EstWRC]

Decent time for Tänak this time but i want to see this man pushing, then we will have a lot of fun ;) -....good to see Latvala leading :) Go Sisu!

[Jasper]

Waiting for a grape-decorated VW!
This will not last long.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM7GK56WcAE2qrT.jpg

[dimviii]

Ogier ss3
https://twitter.com/cicles7/status/634654019139555328

Neuville
https://twitter.com/cicles7/status/634656372232224768

Mikkelsen ss3
https://twitter.com/AMikkelsenRally/status/634656648938815489

Latvala
https://twitter.com/cicles7/status/634657754175664128

[marcosg]

the adams are copying the vw's domination in rc4

[dimviii]

https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11230854_10153507125147829_3018004161215536827_n.j pg?oh=096de9f7750d16840bdb47feac87db0c&oe=5636E6B6
https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11885352_10153507125252829_922587285655775848_n.jp g?oh=41e5055f4b01902601a63e20e7eb9bd7&oe=56445F9D


seems no major problem if suspension is ok and nothing bend

[noel157]

Is Meeke waiting to start SS4? Any indication on WRC+?

[itix]

Meeke is onto the stage, seem to run competitively!

[noel157]

Thanks Itix.

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen 4th on the road and already complaining for dirty roads

[dimviii]

Meeke ok with good time.4,1 sec slower from Ogier.

[Ucci]

I think that after 4th stage VW team should cool down both JML and Ogier. If they will continue in this rythem it just a matter of stages when somebody of them will end in forest or grape....

[AL14]

I think that after 4th stage VW team should cool down both JML and Ogier. If they will continue in this rythem it just a matter of stages when somebody of them will end in forest or grape....

Not an easy task, how can you ask them to slow down with one tenth of a second of difference? Impossible.
Hope it will last as long as possible.

[EstWRC]

I think that after 4th stage VW team should cool down both JML and Ogier. If they will continue in this rythem it just a matter of stages when somebody of them will end in forest or grape....

no, let them fight, it is good for sport.

[itix]

I think that after 4th stage VW team should cool down both JML and Ogier. If they will continue in this rythem it just a matter of stages when somebody of them will end in forest or grape....

Shhhh... that would not be negative at all in my mind (provided no one gets hurt etc etc)!

[dimviii]

Nice time from Sordo,now faster hyundai overall.

[marcosg]

I think that after 4th stage VW team should cool down both JML and Ogier. If they will continue in this rythem it just a matter of stages when somebody of them will end in forest or grape....

this is complete nonsense... if they had 1m gap maybe... and I believe vw doesn't wan't the bad publicity for "killing" the great fight between them

[noel157]

I think that after 4th stage VW team should cool down both JML and Ogier. If they will continue in this rythem it just a matter of stages when somebody of them will end in forest or grape....

Pedal to the metal all the way. Proper rallying : )

[EstWRC]

Not a huge gap from Evans to Tänak where between are Paddon and Ostberg, 4 way fight coming up!

[EightGear]

Front diff problems for Abbring, probably all morning.

[RS]

I am impressed by the times of Kremer. Pirelli tyres must be pretty good.

[N.O.T]

I think that after 4th stage VW team should cool down both JML and Ogier. If they will continue in this rythem it just a matter of stages when somebody of them will end in forest or grape....

why they would do that ? are they in danger of losing the championship ?

[irish_tiger]

I am impressed by the times of Kremer. Pirelli tyres must be pretty good.

How many years has he done these stages ??

[RS]

How many years has he done these stages ??

Many I suppose but experience alone can't give you speed.

[N.O.T]

another useless spot choice by rally-media in their fb page... not a grape in the horizon... no lake... not even a good handbrake hairpin... I am dissapointed... can someone post one of these super pro autism photos ?? need my hairpin fix guys....

https://video-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xft1/v/t42.1790-2/11852026_881143018640335_549158338_n.mp4?efg=eyJyb HIiOjc2NiwicmxhIjo1MTJ9&rl=766&vabr=426&oh=271c97256d0ae8760c3aade9e4560a38&oe=55D72162

[Zeakiwi]

Have VW increased the win bonus money in their contract for the VW driver; if they win Rally Germany this year?

[AL14]

another useless spot choice by rally-media in their fb page... not a grape in the horizon... no lake... not even a good handbrake hairpin... I am dissapointed... can someone post one of these super pro autism photos ?? need my hairpin fix guys....

https://video-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xft1/v/t42.1790-2/11852026_881143018640335_549158338_n.mp4?efg=eyJyb HIiOjc2NiwicmxhIjo1MTJ9&rl=766&vabr=426&oh=271c97256d0ae8760c3aade9e4560a38&oe=55D72162

Here you are.
Note how Skoda's green fits perfect with grapes.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM6rFT6WgAAkdgj.jpg

And some river that I'm sure you missed...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM67S14WcAAXWg8.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Dusty in places...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM7YTFEWsAEsxa8.jpg:large

[N.O.T]

Here you are.
Note how Skoda's green fits perfect with grapes.


And some river that I'm sure you missed...



very nice... the autism award is going to be hard on this event....

[marcosg]

the adams are copying the vw's domination in rc4

griebel hit trouble on ss3 and leaves bergkvist with a 2m lead after only 3 stages... bergkvist 1m quicker on ss3 alone!

[Ucci]

this is complete nonsense... if they had 1m gap maybe... and I believe vw doesn't wan't the bad publicity for "killing" the great fight between them

Seems you all forgot what happend here in 2013&2014...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

another useless spot choice by rally-media in their fb page... not a grape in the horizon... no lake... not even a good handbrake hairpin... I am dissapointed... can someone post one of these super pro autism photos ?? need my hairpin fix guys....

https://video-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xft1/v/t42.1790-2/11852026_881143018640335_549158338_n.mp4?efg=eyJyb HIiOjc2NiwicmxhIjo1MTJ9&rl=766&vabr=426&oh=271c97256d0ae8760c3aade9e4560a38&oe=55D72162

Such ingratitude after the trouble they take to get their photos ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/EddieFocus/11375241_800004530116584_260648938_n_zpsi8uerdpl.j pg

[marcosg]

Seems you all forgot what happend here in 2013&2014...

neverthless... it's too soon and too little margin...

[EstWRC]

Tänak doesnt need service, he has repaired the car with Raigo :p

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM7a1PjWoAEzMxg.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM7VyEGW8AAeCg3.jpg

[N.O.T]

Tänak doesnt need service, he has repaired the car with Raigo :p

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM7a1PjWoAEzMxg.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM7VyEGW8AAeCg3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bzR0mRC.jpg

[Mirek]

Bouffier retired :(

[JTGANG]

Bouffier retired :(

https://twitter.com/search?q=Bryan%20Bouffier&src=tyah

[dimviii]

Meeke hits kerb
https://youtu.be/j-j0o1jtA4Y

[dimviii]

MICHELIN Motorsport ‏@michelin_sport
#tyre information: all # WRC Michelin drivers with 5 MICHELIN Pilot Sport H5 (hard) #RallyeDeutschland

[dimviii]

https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11900086_765271503581926_1021383991429996429_n.jpg ?oh=172d187447440e63acce011b2644f545&oe=563B8F44

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS5: MEEKE
Quickest non Volkswagen so far. "Generally the stage is a bit cleaner than before. The car is fine after we bent the wheel earlier." :)

[EstWRC]

On SS5 Like usual this year, three VW's, then Meeke and then Tänak sometimes the other way around and then the rest.

[HarriK]

Does WRC+ live maps work for you?
I see driver completed the stage when he is running stage. And time is running between liaison :D
Now it seems also that Latvala drives 170kmh at liaision at highway...
Looks like that Ogier, Latvala and Meeke has wrong GPS signals (should be lefevbe, Melicharek and Abbring)
Also stage end is stage start at the map...

poor WRC.com

[EightGear]

Lefebvre going flat out!

[Eli]

Lefebvre going flat out!

sixth fastest on stage!!!

[AL14]

Didn't expect such a pace from Lefebvre. Bravo!

[Eli]

WRC
1 hr ·

WRC TOP 5 AFTER SS4/ ADAC Rallye Deutschland:
1. Latvala (VW): 39m41.7s
2. Ogier (VW): +0.1s
3. Mikkelsen (VW): +15.9s
4. Meeke (DS 3): +21.4s
5. Sordo (Ford) +33.9s
wrc seems to be confused -Sordo& Ford that's odd..

[Mirek]

Kopecký has a one minute lead after five stages...

Kremer out with technical problem.

Second fastest time for Kreim WRC2 now.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WRC2 Breen says he was lucky to get away with the spin on SS5. He's had a bad few months but maybe his luck has changed...

[AL14]

Ostberg "I had a warning alarm come on early in the stage, I don't know what it was for - it's in French - but that took away some of my focus."

Warning alarms in french with a norvegian and an irish/british driver. What the hell. Does anybody told them that Napoleon is dead 2 centuries ago?

[TWRC]

Hmm, interesting interview with Meeke on the radio.

[mm1]

Didn`t hear it, what was it about?

[dimviii]

Hmm, interesting interview with Meeke on the radio.

cant listen as i am at the beach at vacations and there is too much wind.What did he said?

Hyundai Motorsport ‏@HyundaiWRC
The Waxweiler stage runs only about 30km from @thierryneuville's home town St. Vith #InterestingFact #WRC

Lets see how Neuville will manage at his hometown stage.

[dimviii]

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11892058_1001625076548817_3869387189030421604_n.jp g?oh=fb5571025de512e1c1f053072297362b&oe=5638E58B
https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11781702_950900688300694_4461354261983346759_n.jpg ?oh=f090897db755d877114755bc8ae337a4&oe=5639615E
https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11888086_10207389018469461_7388409761245052775_n.j pg?oh=52d110c5a5d88f9c4c06f981f3a9f0f6&oe=5675FF88

[TWRC]

Didn`t hear it, what was it about?
He said he is trying his best, even though the results may not show that. Criticism came up again, and said that he would speak about issues behind close doors. When asked about what he thought of what Capito said, he said something like "it's nice to see people appreciate your work, but maybe they wouldn't be happy either if you left them without points". Also, he talked about working with his engineer, and said that he is one of the best in his corner. As for the rally, he said a podium would be a brilliant result.

[dimviii]

anybody to translate?
Alain Penasse (Team manager Hyundai) critique Thierry Neuville (O.Gaspard)
http://www.rtbf.be/video/detail_alain-penasse-team-manager-hyundai-critique-thierry-neuville-o-gaspard?id=2037573

[EightGear]

Oh Meeke....

[Doon]

Poor old Meeke. He still doesn't have that much experience in WRC cars, and he's the only one the get near the VW's. Citroen need to give him a faster car.

The others are lame this weekend (or possibly their cars are lame)

[dimviii]

https://twitter.com/AllanHarryman/status/634731276872847360

DMACK Tyres ‏@DMACK_Tyres
Big accident for @tomcaverally and @craigparry2 in SS5 both are ok

[AL14]

anybody to translate?
Alain Penasse (Team manager Hyundai) critique Thierry Neuville (O.Gaspard)
http://www.rtbf.be/video/detail_alain-penasse-team-manager-hyundai-critique-thierry-neuville-o-gaspard?id=2037573

I could understand here and there. He criticised him indeed, with respect but he didn't use euphemisms.
I understood he said that he has to stay in his spot and be a driver, that he is a very good driver but he is not doing bad lately.
Then he said he is not coherent on what he said (don't now what was he referring to) because in Poland and Argentina he could have taken points and he didn't.

Then he talked also about the delay of new car but it seems to me the overall concept was: "we didn't come up with the new car this year for some reasons but this doesn't allow Neuville to be a bad driver all the year long".

Better wait for a french speaking guy.

[Eli]

wow DS3 9th,10th,11th now....no way they'll take 2nd this year...

[marcosg]

Seems you all forgot what happend here in 2013&2014...


neverthless... it's too soon and too little margin...

now that Meeke is out of contention maybe they could start to consider something... but again, I don't see VW "killing" the fight in front

[itix]

WRC
1 hr ·

WRC TOP 5 AFTER SS4/ ADAC Rallye Deutschland:
1. Latvala (VW): 39m41.7s
2. Ogier (VW): +0.1s
3. Mikkelsen (VW): +15.9s
4. Meeke (DS 3): +21.4s
5. Sordo (Ford) +33.9s
wrc seems to be confused -Sordo& Ford that's odd..

Noticed that also... still better than when they persistently said that Andreucci drove a 205 T16 in sardegna this year. I even tweeted to the WRC live and pointed this out, got my tweet favorited and yet they kept calling it a 205 T15

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke has had a long stop after SS6 but is now moving well towards SS7...

[wia5958]

Unfortunatly kris is having to drive the door handles of that ds3 to get near the vws unfortunatly again it has resulted in an off. I noticed in mattons critiscm of him he said citroen had done everything to give him best car possible. Wich i dont think is entirely true. A few upgrades this year hardly enough to cut it. And with vw already starting to develop their 2017 car could be a long reign at the top for them

[Eli]

Unfortunatly kris is having to drive the door handles of that ds3 to get near the vws unfortunatly again it has resulted in an off. I noticed in mattons critiscm of him he said citroen had done everything to give him best car possible. Wich i dont think is entirely true. A few upgrades this year hardly enough to cut it. And with vw already starting to develop their 2017 car could be a long reign at the top for them
unless Opel or someone comes there and kicks their ass

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM8KT4GWcAA9VGK.jpg

[dimviii]

Meeke has had a long stop after SS6 but is now moving well towards SS7...

He completes with some light front-left damage. What happened? "I got caught out in a bit of gravel, went off into a field and it took some time to get back on. The car felt okay after that but now I have a problem - I have to go..."

[EightGear]

Unfortunatly kris is having to drive the door handles of that ds3 to get near the vws unfortunatly again it has resulted in an off. I noticed in mattons critiscm of him he said citroen had done everything to give him best car possible. Wich i dont think is entirely true. A few upgrades this year hardly enough to cut it. And with vw already starting to develop their 2017 car could be a long reign at the top for them

The only 'fight' he was in was with Mikkelsen. 4th place would have been fine as well considering the constructeurs championship.

[wia5958]

unless Opel or someone comes there and kicks their ass they would need to bring a driver capable of that. Cant c citroen staying for 2017 havent developed the ds3 much since loeb left. And u no the old phrase stand still in motorsport ur only going backwards. With ford having brought out their new car and hyundais still in development. Citroen are soon to b left dragging their heels

[Eli]

they would need to bring a driver capable of that. Cant c citroen staying for 2017 havent developed the ds3 much since loeb left. And u no the old phrase stand still in motorsport ur only going backwards. With ford having brought out their new car and hyundais still in development. Citroen are soon to b left dragging their heels

yeah i agree Citroen needs to quit before it gets too embarrassing for them...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke seems to sticking to the old McRae style of 'win it or bin it', but he doesn't have the car or the WRC-level experience to do 'win' part so ends up with the 'bin' too often ...

[wia5958]

The only 'fight' he was in was with Mikkelsen. 4th place would have been fine as well considering the constructeurs championship. wasnt referring to just this event. But i too wish he would just reign it in a bit and settle for the points. But thats not meeke i guess its all or nothing

[dimviii]

https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11880625_733760380063686_122296037529326954_n.jpg? oh=b73fbe341023332fade86c0299b8b6c5&oe=56822F88

[RS]

Unfortunatly kris is having to drive the door handles of that ds3 to get near the vws unfortunatly again it has resulted in an off. I noticed in mattons critiscm of him he said citroen had done everything to give him best car possible. Wich i dont think is entirely true. A few upgrades this year hardly enough to cut it. And with vw already starting to develop their 2017 car could be a long reign at the top for them

I agree with you. Ostberg drives within the car limits but is too slow. Kris pushes and crashes.

It depends what they have told Kris what they want. Do they want another Ostberg or do they want him to at least have a go?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No times anywhere for SS7 ??

[Eli]

they haven't started yet, they start in 5 minutes

[Fast Eddie WRC]

they haven't started yet, they start in 5 minutes

Rally Radio must be replay... :rolleyes:

[dimviii]

stages 1-4 with Tanaks incar crash
https://youtu.be/MCqCRIchils

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Latvala losing time steadily on SS7 splits...

[Eli]

Latvala losing time steadily on SS7 splits...

9.4 seconds now...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke lost a massive amount at split 1 ?!

[Eli]

Meeke lost a massive amount at split 1 ?!

Evans went past him..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

2m50s lost now ... :(

[Eli]

2m50s lost now ... :(

what a bit of rotten luck...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

what a bit of rotten luck...

Assume its the effect of the off on SS6... said there was some front damage...

[Eli]

Assume its the effect of the off on SS6... said there was some front damage...

yep probably, horrible rally for Citroen (DS whatever), one to forget...

[EstWRC]

stages 1-4 with Tanaks incar crash
https://youtu.be/MCqCRIchils

man, Tänak is so lucky to continue.

[EstWRC]

All the others having problems but no VW's, Kubica and Leferbvre now too

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke 18:44.6 "I've made a repair after being off in the previous one and I hope to get back to service."

[dimviii]

Neuville faster hyundai overall for 0,7 (Sordo)
hope ends well for both.

[Ucci]

Meeke-again dissapointment....he should known by now that let the VW boys their own race...he is the "best out of the rest".

[Nornbugger]

Meeke seems to sticking to the old McRae style of 'win it or bin it', but he doesn't have the car or the WRC-level experience to do 'win' part so ends up with the 'bin' too often ...

The experience story is old now and no longer true, Ogier was going head to head with Loeb with a similar amount of WRC event experience. I'm so disappointed with how the Meeke story has gone, I really thought he could do something more .

[Ucci]

Kubica troubles?

[EstWRC]

This for sure means Meeke will be out of Citroen next year, i hope not but i cant see Citroen holding him after Mattons comments already couple of rallies back.

[Eli]

This for sure means Meeke will be out of Citroen next year, i hope not but i cant see Citroen holding him after Mattons comments already couple of rallies back.

yeah 4 rallies with no podiums or big points...he will be out of Citroen, out where i don't know but out that's for sure, 2 years and almost nothing to show for, 4 podiums and one win...and a lot of DNF/off the road...

[marcosg]

Kubica troubles?

He completes with the loss of five minutes and his car's windscreen. "We went off into the vines and broke the screen. We carried on but couldn't see properly so had to stop and kick it out."

[Mirek]

Kubica troubles?

He was off in the vineyeard. Also Lefebvre had a spin.

[Ucci]

How the hell same names at each rally when somebody is out of the road??? Chris, Robert....

[N.O.T]

do we have some hairpin action photos from the pros ? its time for my fix... grapes or rivers will do but the good stuff are the hairpins.

[Rallyper]

Meeke-again dissapointment....he should known by now that let the VW boys their own race...he is the "best out of the rest".

Best of the rest? No. Fastest, maybe, when staying on the road.

[marcosg]

How the hell same names at each rally when somebody is out of the road??? Chris, Robert....

robert was driving at latvala's pace..............

[Mirek]

How the hell same names at each rally when somebody is out of the road??? Chris, Robert....

Some people believe it's bad luck...

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/3sR8HTgcHdU

[marcosg]

Some people believe it's bad luck...

Robert changed a pacenote from 4 Right into 6 Right... that's why he went off........

[N.O.T]

Robert changed a pacenote from 4 Right into 6 Right... that's why he went off........

wise move.

[Mirek]

Lappi confirmed to restart tomorrow.

[Antony Warmbold]

The Polo is an extremely well balanced car. There is zero understeer on that car. It is so neutral... and really visible that the drivers have huge confidence when they drive. The engine is obviously awesome as well and the reliability...well. When it's brand new cars for each event for sure ridiculous stuff like handbrakes rarely fail...

Meeke? The speed is there but clearly he is beyond his capabilities when he's doing the fast times. Each and every time same story. Sure once in a while he'll get very lucky and make it through the event accident free. Clearly there's something missing in his package and I'd be surprised if Matton hasn't come to this conclusion as well.

Latvala? He is the Nigel Mansell of rally. Had to do a lot of work to get there, with countless accidents and huge costs for his manager. But now it seems to be in place. Good for him! Next step(s): repay the manager.

Kubica? I am very afraid for the people's safety when he is driving.

Ostberg? Inaccurate notes and approximate driving due to these notes. Now impossible for him to even think of doing work on this, it's anchored too well. He has reached his maximum, thanks to years of experience and thousands of km in top wrc cars.

Paddon? Very hopeful. My money's on him.

Sordo? ...

Neuville? Looks like Freddy Loix syndrome. I am stumped, don't understand what happened to him. The car must be wrong for him. Apparently the Ford was great for his confidence, not the Hyundai. But with Nandan at the helm I am not surprised.

Tanak? He is in a psychological hell. Unless that is fixed he will keep doing the same roller coaster like performances.

Evans? Promising but now I'd like to see some more speed.


My two cents...

[maciotacio]

Great photo :D
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM8rJ4aWcAAdoCf.jpg:large

[wia5958]

I would say meeke will be at citroen next year. With no sign of them developing a 2017 car what driver will be willing to go on a 1 year contract to a car that by the end of this season will be very much out of date. Bring lefubre up to the first team?? Doubtfull not enough seat time in wr car. And if citroen want to fight for that second place in manufactur championship they will need a driver with speed as neuville paddon tanak and evans will all b there or there abouts. Especially with up to date cars. Ostberg will keep his seat purely as a safety net to pick up points but can easily see him being outpaced by the 4 mentioned previosly. Just my opinion

[MJW]

I would say meeke will be at citroen next year. With no sign of them developing a 2017 car what driver will be willing to go on a 1 year contract to a car that by the end of this season will be very much out of date. Bring lefubre up to the first team?? Doubtfull not enough seat time in wr car. And if citroen want to fight for that second place in manufactur championship they will need a driver with speed as neuville paddon tanak and evans will all b there or there abouts. Especially with up to date cars. Ostberg will keep his seat purely as a safety net to pick up points but can easily see him being outpaced by the 4 mentioned previosly. Just my opinion my opinion is IF Citroen plan to be in WRC 2017 then I expect 2016 line up to be Loeb (part programme and development) Lefebrve and Lappi. No Citroen in 2017? The Meeke and Ostberg in 2016

[RAS007]

M-Sport miles off the pace as usual.

[Antony Warmbold]

I would say meeke will be at citroen next year. With no sign of them developing a 2017 car what driver will be willing to go on a 1 year contract to a car that by the end of this season will be very much out of date. Bring lefubre up to the first team?? Doubtfull not enough seat time in wr car. And if citroen want to fight for that second place in manufactur championship they will need a driver with speed as neuville paddon tanak and evans will all b there or there abouts. Especially with up to date cars. Ostberg will keep his seat purely as a safety net to pick up points but can easily see him being outpaced by the 4 mentioned previosly. Just my opinion

Your thoughts seem to make sense. Are you sure the Citroen is out of date? I think Loeb showed us it's not, rather recently. Ok it's maybe a bit behind the VW. I agree with you ;)

[Nornbugger]

Your thoughts seem to make sense. Are you sure the Citroen is out of date? I think Loeb showed us it's not, rather recently. Ok it's maybe a bit behind the VW. I agree with you ;)

Antony, I think you know enough to know that Loebs Monte pace was very event specific and not a true reflection of where the car is

[Antony Warmbold]

It seems to me the car has the potential to be good but the whole package isn't there completely. Perhaps the lead driver isn't where he should be on the psychological level, and I would say the car is maybe not as "fresh" as it could be.

[Mariusz]

It's nice that there no Rally2 WRC drivers for tomorrow, that's definitely a positive for such a difficult rally. Let's hope for some more fun tomorrow :)

[Antony Warmbold]

Maybe you are right. The Citroën is behind the VW.

[Mirek]

Although I'm of course pleased I'm also quite surprised how easily Kopecký today destroyed the competition in WRC2. Winning all stages and having nearly 1,5 minute lead after day one looks near ridiculous. Also considering his last Rally Germany was 2007 (I know he was extremely fast there already back then).

[tolis]

What happened to Kreim? :(

[RS]

Although I'm of course pleased I'm also quite surprised how easily Kopecký today destroyed the competition in WRC2. Winning all stages and having nearly 1,5 minute lead after day one looks near ridiculous. Also considering his last Rally Germany was 2007 (I know he was extremely fast there already back then).

I suppose he will be in cruise mode tomorrow a la Lappi in Poland and Finland.

[denkimi]

my opinion is IF Citroen plan to be in WRC 2017 then I expect 2016 line up to be Loeb (part programme and development) Lefebrve and Lappi. No Citroen in 2017? The Meeke and Ostberg in 2016

if citroen plans to stay in the wrc for a few more years, i can see them attracting neuville.

[Rallyper]

And in the shadows of WRC drivers Emil Bergkvist has a comfortable lead in R2 class outpacing all others.

[Mirek]

It's pity that Griebel had some problem in SS3. Untill that he was in front of Bergkvist. It could have been a nice fight but it ended too soon. With all respect the level of RC4 competitors on this event is nowhere near JERC. Let's see how he will do next week :)

[Rallyper]

For sure, but Emil´s doing what he should do. And already showed being ERC3 champion. At the same time showing his pace he seems to have mental qualities as well.

[AL14]

Best of the rest? No. Fastest, maybe, when staying on the road.

This.

The best out of the rest at the moment is Mads Ostberg. Which is a bit sad since we're talking about a driver who have reached his top for the reasons already mentioned.

[EightGear]

I'm really disappointed with Abbring so far TBH. We can't count the first loop since he had differential problems there, but the second loop hasn't been that impressive either. He seems to struggle with the car and setup. Let's hope he can improve tomorrow and Sunday. In theory he should be at least as fast as Lefebvre, who really surprised me today!

[dimviii]

Tanak crash
https://youtu.be/Pv1vkTaXtrE

[dimviii]

Maurin
https://youtu.be/pBwtfuyGodE

[rallysupportnl]

Video of day 1 at Rally Germany 2015:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odl6lIGbWWA

[Wim_Impreza]

Although I'm of course pleased I'm also quite surprised how easily Kopecký today destroyed the competition in WRC2. Winning all stages and having nearly 1,5 minute lead after day one looks near ridiculous. Also considering his last Rally Germany was 2007 (I know he was extremely fast there already back then).

I completely agree, but I think the level in WRC2 isn't that high as some people think. The level in the ERC, especially in classic rallies like Ypres and Barum, is in my opinion higher than in WRC2. I also think that Kopecký is one of the most underrating drivers, especially on asphalt. He is very fast and he almost never makes mistakes. I never understood why he didn't had a chance in a factory WRC car in the WRC.

[Rallyper]

I completely agree, but I think the level in WRC2 isn't that high as some people think. The level in the ERC, especially in classic rallies like Ypres and Barum, is in my opinion higher than in WRC2. I also think that Kopecký is one of the most underrating drivers, especially on asphalt. He is very fast and he almost never makes mistakes. I never understood why he didn't had a chance in a factory WRC car in the WRC.

He had his chances, but in not so competitive car back in 2006-or 2007 I think. Did crash at Lankanmaa stage if I remember correctly. Wasn´t that fast but as for many others he didn´t get so many drives in WRC.

[Mirek]

I completely agree, but I think the level in WRC2 isn't that high as some people think. The level in the ERC, especially in classic rallies like Ypres and Barum, is in my opinion higher than in WRC2. I also think that Kopecký is one of the most underrating drivers, especially on asphalt. He is very fast and he almost never makes mistakes. I never understood why he didn't had a chance in a factory WRC car in the WRC.

Look at Breen or Bouffier. Breen has been winning ERC events quite regularly this year. Even in Ypres he was able to fight with Loix. He has been absolutely nowhere near Kopecký here. I think that it has also a lot to do with the car as also Kremer or Kreim were fighting with Breen and Bouffier which is imho not normal. I don't know why Kremer and Kreim retired but in speed it looks like other R5 cars are way slower than Fabia now.

[Bartek]

if citroen plans to stay in the wrc for a few more years, i can see them attracting neuville.

In my opinion with Neuville they will be in the same place like they are this year with Ostberg. I think they should give a castle and big amount of money to JML. He is the only one who can fight with Ogier, ok sometimes he attack too much but when he find his rhythm he's fast as hell.

[Mirek]

He had his chances, but in not so competitive car back in 2006-or 2007 I think. Did crash at Lankanmaa stage if I remember correctly. Wasn´t that fast but as for many others he didn´t get so many drives in WRC.

8 years a go here in Germany Kopecký finished 5th overall in a private car 0,5 sec/km behind Loeb (he kept 5th since early day 2). Behind him Petter Solberg, Gardemeister, Latvala, Henning Solberg, Atkinson...

The whole career of Jan is connected with Škoda. He would never became what he is without Škoda and they would maybe never build Fabia S2000 without him. He didn't make it to a WRC star but ok, he has had a nice career anyway :)

[Barreis]

Tanak crash
https://youtu.be/Pv1vkTaXtrE

Not crash, just offroad exursion...;)

[juho]

lappi crash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c97hUq3OYY

[marcosg]

I'm really disappointed with Abbring so far TBH. We can't count the first loop since he had differential problems there, but the second loop hasn't been that impressive either. He seems to struggle with the car and setup. Let's hope he can improve tomorrow and Sunday. In theory he should be at least as fast as Lefebvre, who really surprised me today!
you are also expecting maybe too much from him... he is not in a position to race this rally... he is here to learn only...
i was hoping a little better too, at least prokop's pace... but not that better

[Mirek]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odl6lIGbWWA

[Ucci]

Look at Breen or Bouffier. Breen has been winning ERC events quite regularly this year. Even in Ypres he was able to fight with Loix. He has been absolutely nowhere near Kopecký here. I think that it has also a lot to do with the car as also Kremer or Kreim were fighting with Breen and Bouffier which is imho not normal. I don't know why Kremer and Kreim retired but in speed it looks like other R5 cars are way slower than Fabia now.
I agree with Mirek - Fabia must be a "wunderfahrzeug".
But there is somebody, who is capable to beat top driver in Fabia R5. Wait next week for Alpi Orientali in Italy (Scandola vs.Andreucci). But this not belongs to Deutschland rally....

[EightGear]

you are also expecting maybe too much from him... he is not in a position to race this rally... he is here to learn only...
i was hoping a little better too, at least prokop's pace... but not that better
That could be, I know he's not under pressure from Hyundai etc. and he keeps learning. And he's pretty much always been faster than Lefebvre, for example in the 208 cup in 2013 or Ypres this year (although he crashed). Although Lefebvre probably has a slight advantage being in the DS3.


But we'll see, I'm not losing hope on his potential at all yet.

[marcosg]

But we'll see, I'm not losing hope on his potential at all yet.

not at all...

[EightGear]

M-Sport miles off the pace as usual.
You coming in here to tell that as usual.

[jbmarcus21]

Evans flat out Shakedown Wrc Deutschland 2015 [Vidéo] http://bit.ly/1I0vdFm
Neuville flat out au Shakedown Wrc Deutschland 2015 [Vidéo] http://bit.ly/1NKN3l0

[dimviii]

citroen video

https://youtu.be/zbk9WXaCJbM



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM9fgiSWoAAIcbp.jpg

[dimviii]

Tom Cave incar crash
https://www.facebook.com/DMACKtyre?ref=hl


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM9DyQhWoAEPjfJ.jpg


lololol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM9QitrWEAAUCgD.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM9KMEuWcAAEakh.jpg

[dimviii]

like this photo

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM9GQuLWUAA-AWy.jpg



from twitter

AndyRaithby ‏@AndyRaithby
@OfficialWRC End of day 1. Krasher Kris 1 Krasher Kubica 1

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3pqOOLvyF0


Tanak flat out
https://youtu.be/WZPsE0un-iA

[dimviii]

nice spot
https://youtu.be/yGxTibMX5Eg

and a photo i am sure NOT will hate.




































https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11866292_1136238986390950_7247863415863622372_n.jp g?oh=b8b5766b03fcd8898d764dac0ba9b1c6&oe=5678181D


for sure must be at top 10 at my list

[dimviii]

some hot moments
https://youtu.be/Mp1m3Bftif0

[dimviii]

Prokop mistake,Kubica crash(veeery lucky!)
https://youtu.be/tfJ18_ieWs8

Nasser braking
https://youtu.be/5GpgUHWB-_8

https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/11892001_1874070962818754_1171499190203464390_n.jp g?oh=a16db78c16f227371fc430bf7972cae4&oe=567E7C92

[marcosg]

nice spot
https://youtu.be/yGxTibMX5Eg

watch @ 0:38 1:10 and 1:40

this is I think the biggest advantage of vw... it must give you great confidence to attack

[dimviii]

watch @ 0:38 1:10 and 1:40

this is I think the biggest advantage of vw... it must give you great confidence to attack

i dont see any vw advantage at these spots,i just see different drivers aprroach at this dangerous jump(choosed different line)
Kubicas ford and a i20 were much better at this spot than the polo.



Kubica
https://youtu.be/PU0fRufbpYQ

[bluuford]

Maurin, making fun for the spectators on the same gravel patch as Ott:-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBwtfuyGodE&feature=youtu.be

[SubaruNorway]

Maurin, making fun for the spectators on the same gravel patch as Ott:-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBwtfuyGodE&feature=youtu.be

The marshall must have got hit slightly? Serves them right when they are stupid enough to stand there after nearly getting hit by Ott

[marcosg]

i dont see any vw advantage at these spots,i just see different drivers aprroach at this dangerous jump(choosed different line)
Kubicas ford and a i20 were much better at this spot than the polo.


kubicas ford went "floating" through the next corners and the i20 was far too slow to compare... although the vw took it hard, the car quickly resettled unlike the others who became unsettled for longer time...
it's not about how it takes the bump... it's how it overcomes it

[stefanvv]

Kubica? I am very afraid for the people's safety when he is driving.

In this event it is the vineyards which are in danger.


Sordo? ...

Neuville? Looks like Freddy Loix syndrome. I am stumped, don't understand what happened to him. The car must be wrong for him. Apparently the Ford was great for his confidence, not the Hyundai. But with Nandan at the helm I am not surprised.

Well Sordo's results on gravel this year are pretty poor, Germany though should be his ground as tarmac specialist. Probably this event shows where Hyundai's are really are in terms of performance. Probably they freezed current i20 development in respect to 16' car, we'll see. May be that is valid for Neuville also, though Paddon seems to do really good job on gravel this year, so it is little strange indeed.

[dimviii]

kubicas ford went "floating" through the next corners and the i20 was far too slow to compare... although the vw took it hard, the car quickly resettled unlike the others who became unsettled for longer time...
it's not about how it takes the bump... it's how it overcomes it

the different aprroach is visible.Watch again.

[marcosg]

the different aprroach is visible.Watch again.
of course it takes its part... even so...

[N.O.T]

lake... check
grapes... a bit far away but check
straight line driving... check
nice scenery to promote the country... check
autism... check

http://i.imgur.com/QZDgNBa.jpg

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/kPUhKxbQ7gA

[danon]

https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t31.0-8/1507261_10152398602189973_1379646591_o.jpg

[Rally Power]

It cames quite clear that Latvala was hired by VW not to undermine Ogier favoritism, but to prevent other manus to contract the only guy that has the speed and the strength to dispute Ogier dominance.

As Citroen over Loeb, Mitsu over Makinen, Lancia over Biasion (in Gr.A days), etc, VW team was developed around a vital asset: Ogier, their "numero uno" driver! This is a recipe that some team managers (hello Mr. Wilson) simply don't understand, but makes wonders!

Of course Latvala inconstancy it's a personality fault, but for sure it's underline by his permanent task to beat the best driver around and the structure that was created at that driver's image, even when he shares that structure...

I fear Makinen will not have the sensibility to give Latvala a center place in Toyota's team, so maybe only Hyundai or a revitalized Citroen team (via Peugeot?) could provide the right chance to a world championship title in the Finn's future. He deserve it!

[N.O.T]

It cames quite clear that Latvala was hired by VW not to undermine Ogier favoritism, but to prevent other manus to contract the only guy that has the speed and the strength to dispute Ogier dominance.

As Citroen over Loeb, Mitsu over Makinen, Lancia over Biasion (in Gr.A days), etc, VW team was developed around a vital asset: Ogier, their "numero uno" driver! This is a recipe that some team managers (hello Mr. Wilson) simply don't understand, but makes wonders!

Of course Latvala inconstancy it's a personality fault, but for sure it's underline by his permanent task to beat the best driver around and the structure that was created at that driver's image, even when he shares that structure...

I fear Makinen will not have the sensibility to give Latvala a center place in Toyota's team, so maybe only Hyundai or a revitalized Citroen team (via Peugeot?) could provide the right chance to a world championship title in the Finn's future. He deserve it!

thats how businesses work, you always give your best asset the best possible equipment and you shift the weight towards him... its common sense. People who get the job done will always be favoured.

[Rally Power]

But it's easier to get the job done if you're in right environment...also common sense. Motorsport it's a team sports, and when the team it's focused in their vital element, the driver, results will soon follow. Mr. Ferrari treated F1 drivers like second plan pieces. His cars were always the priority, and for many years the small British teams managed to beat those mighty machines! On the opposite mode, Ron Dennis was able to developed his cars and team around champs like Lauda, Prost or Senna, providing McLaren some of the brither pages in F1 history. So perhaps Biasion, Makinen, Loeb and now Ogier weren't abble to be theirs time dominat rally drivers if people like Fiorio, Cowan, Frequelin and Capito weren't clear minded about how to treat them!

[N.O.T]

But it's easier to get the job done if you're in right environment...also common sense. Motorsport it's a team sports, and when the team it's focused in their vital element, the driver, results will soon follow. Mr. Ferrari treated F1 drivers like second plan pieces. His cars were always the priority, and for many years the small British teams managed to beat those mighty machines! On the opposite mode, Ron Dennis was able to developed his cars and team around champs like Lauda, Prost or Senna, providing McLaren some of the brither pages in F1 history. So perhaps Biasion, Makinen, Loeb and now Ogier weren't abble to be theirs time dominat rally drivers if people like Fiorio, Cowan, Frequelin and Capito weren't clear minded about how to treat them!

no need to bring the scared girls into this... but of course you need a good manager in a team to get things in order.

[itix]

I don't understand this defense of Meeke... I am sure that if you put Ogier in the current Citroen and Meeke in the VW, Ogier would probably still win overall. He'd have more of a challenge to win but he'd still win.
Meeke is clearly driving waaaay past his potential and I don't know if he is trying to cure lack of speed with more speed and then going over his ability or if he simply can't keep it on the road. In Finland he had a comfortable cushion in both directions *sigh*. He certainly has the experience now so he can not claim that card.

My hopes for the future rest on Paddon or Lefebvre for now... (and now that we can see how much difference the VW engine does on a place where suspension has less influence, that Italy drive from Paddon was outstanding).

I truly hope that Hyundai plow most of their development money for -16 into their engine and maybe maybe we'll have someone that can challenge Ogier on a regular basis.

I wonder what happened to the pace of Neuville and Kubica to be honest. Especially Neuville who even has trouble keeping up with Sordo these days. Is it psychological stuff that is gnawing his mind? Lack of preparation and dedication due to the Hyundai not performing as he was expecting? Something else?

[wia5958]

U seem to forget ogier too clipped his car on same stage in finland as meeke. Just with a different outcome. I think meeke has the talent hes just driving that thing of the door handles to stay in touch. Do you think mikkleson would be putting in the same pace as meeke in a ds3 probably but id say the outcome would be the same. And he is the guy vw are moulding to be their future number 1 at some stage. Im not defending meekes crashes. But the guys their on merit. He didn bring no money or big sponsors. Hes there on his ability. How many of the other top guys can claim that. Im sure he could back of and get constantly 3rd 4th n 5th place finishes. But do u think matton would be happy with that i dont think he would. Hes like every other team manager he wants his car at the front of the field. But if the cars not capable of it and ur number 1 is driving it over and beyond the limit to get it there. Theres only going to be one outcome most of the time

[CameraMan]

First day video from WP 3 (Moselland) & 8 (Mittelmosel):

http://www.rally-video.eu/rally/wrc-adac-rallye-deutschland-2015-first-day/

Some action, hairpins, mistakes and speed :)

P.S.: It's my first WRC event.

[Mariusz]

Yeah, go Elfyn! That's what I like :)

[noel157]

U seem to forget ogier too clipped his car on same stage in finland as meeke. Just with a different outcome. I think meeke has the talent hes just driving that thing of the door handles to stay in touch. Do you think mikkleson would be putting in the same pace as meeke in a ds3 probably but id say the outcome would be the same. And he is the guy vw are moulding to be their future number 1 at some stage. Im not defending meekes crashes. But the guys their on merit. He didn bring no money or big sponsors. Hes there on his ability. How many of the other top guys can claim that. Im sure he could back of and get constantly 3rd 4th n 5th place finishes. But do u think matton would be happy with that i dont think he would. Hes like every other team manager he wants his car at the front of the field. But if the cars not capable of it and ur number 1 is driving it over and beyond the limit to get it there. Theres only going to be one outcome most of the time

+1.

[noel157]

Latvala still not happy with car (or himself) after SS9, 2.3 behind Ogier:

"The car set-up wise is fine, just the braking seems to be a problem for me.”

[itix]

U seem to forget ogier too clipped his car on same stage in finland as meeke. Just with a different outcome. I think meeke has the talent hes just driving that thing of the door handles to stay in touch. Do you think mikkleson would be putting in the same pace as meeke in a ds3 probably but id say the outcome would be the same. And he is the guy vw are moulding to be their future number 1 at some stage. Im not defending meekes crashes. But the guys their on merit. He didn bring no money or big sponsors. Hes there on his ability. How many of the other top guys can claim that. Im sure he could back of and get constantly 3rd 4th n 5th place finishes. But do u think matton would be happy with that i dont think he would. Hes like every other team manager he wants his car at the front of the field. But if the cars not capable of it and ur number 1 is driving it over and beyond the limit to get it there. Theres only going to be one outcome most of the time

I think you are ignoring a couple of variables. It is not cheap repairing your car after every event and Citroen has a limited budget. If I were team manager I'd spend as much of the budget as humanly possible on development and beg, borrow and steal what funds I could to the team, while at the same time trying to keep my drivers on the road to maximize what is possible with said budget.

If I were team manager and had Meeke in my team right now, i'd cry blood as I saw the budget for development steadily shrink because I had to fix the car all of the time. Meeke will not have much merit left after this season. He had more than enough chances and he has shoved every single one of them in a tree, bush or a ditch somewhere!

[dimviii]

Neuville again first i20 with 1,8sec from Sordo

[Mirek]

By the way last six asphalt starts of Lappi. That is really really bad statistics...

Deutschland 2015 - accident
Bohemia 2015 - 4th after an accident
Corse 2014 - accident
Valais 2014 - 1st
Barum 2014 - accident
Ypres 2014 - accident

[dimviii]

Neuville again first i20 with 1,8sec from Sordo

Sordo Dani - Martí Marc "Not so good. We have a problem with the gear change. It's not shifting down for hairpins. We lost a little time there."

hope he can fix it before the long stage,to see some fight with Neuville

[SubaruNorway]

Shouldn't this be a 1 min penalty...?

[TWRC]

Lefebvre will need to better his spoken english, very hard to understand what he says.

[itix]

By the way last six asphalt starts of Lappi. That is really really bad statistics...

Deutschland 2015 - accident
Bohemia 2015 - 4th after an accident
Corse 2014 - accident
Valais 2014 - 1st
Barum 2014 - accident
Ypres 2014 - accident

He's scandinavian... we don't have much asphalt experience because we have no rallies run on asphalt (there some in Denmark that I know of but they don't have a huge rally community so there isn't much competition there. Norwegian brothers and sisters, how is it in your nation? Any asphalt events?).

[WUff1]

By the way last six asphalt starts of Lappi. That is really really bad statistics...

Deutschland 2015 - accident
Bohemia 2015 - 4th after an accident
Corse 2014 - accident
Valais 2014 - 1st
Barum 2014 - accident
Ypres 2014 - accident

I also don´t think he´s ready for VW.

[SubaruNorway]

He's scandinavian... we don't have much asphalt experience because we have no rallies run on asphalt (there some in Denmark that I know of but they don't have a huge rally community so there isn't much competition there. Norwegian brothers and sisters, how is it in your nation? Any asphalt events?).

After Mikkelsen's accident in 2009 we don't have a tarmac rally in the championship, just one proper one on tarmac on the other side of the country and 2-3 small sprints.

[Mirek]

He's scandinavian... we don't have much asphalt experience because we have no rallies run on asphalt (there some in Denmark that I know of but they don't have a huge rally community so there isn't much competition there. Norwegian brothers and sisters, how is it in your nation? Any asphalt events?).

He was karting champion in Finland and he did also a lot of asphalt rallies in Škoda in those two years. He has definitely enough experience not to crash in every event.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Just back in... how did Evans manage to split the top two on first stage today ??!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Big crowds for the Arena Panzerplatte ..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM_6zxhWcAg0cey.jpg:large

[Ucci]

Big crowds for the Arena Panzerplatte ..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM_6zxhWcAg0cey.jpg:large
Holly sheet....

[itix]

After Mikkelsen's accident in 2009 we don't have a tarmac rally in the championship, just one proper one on tarmac on the other side of the country and 2-3 small sprints.

We have like one or two sprints also but I don't count them. You don't gain any experience from a sprint.
So at least you have something then... Finland and sweden have none :/

I had to check up what you meant with Mikkelsens crash... that is a massive shame. Seemed like a nice rally.


He was karting champion in Finland and he did also a lot of asphalt rallies in Škoda in those two years. He has definitely enough experience not to crash in every event.

Ok that I can agree with. He should have the experience. I am happy that Tidemand seem to be doing good on Tarmac. Bodes well for his future!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Cuts are ridiculous in places, wholly off the tarmac !

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5675/20590463960_ed58c9f80f_b.jpg

This is how a cut should be...

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/592/20591688219_2094a81a3d_b.jpg

[Mirek]

Prokop going already for two stages with broken driveshaft and the big Panzerplatte stage is still yet to come.

[Jasper]

If they don't want the drivers to cut they have to put obstacles. Simple as that.

[raybak]

If they don't want the drivers to cut they have to put obstacles. Simple as that.

Put some Hinkelsteins on the apex:)

[Eli]

Put some Hinkelsteins on the apex:)

just what i was thinking

[Jasper]

Put some Hinkelsteins on the apex:)

Voila!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS13 - Latvala losing time on the splits...

[Mirek]

Put some Hinkelsteins on the apex:)

Actually some red and white coloured hinkelsteins are used here in Rally Hustopeče for preventing cutting. It's quite brutal but it works and I don't remeber any accident with them in years. With softer obstacles there are drivers like Pech who just run over.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I think it's over... the VW's are just going to settle for the positions and take the 1-2-3 on their home event.

[Eli]

I think it's over... the VW's are just going to settle for the positions and take the 1-2-3 on their home event.

yep Colin just said that there might be team orders, makes sense, why risk a 1-2-3 on your home event?

[Mirek]

After the disaster from last year (I don't know how else a double for Hyundai on German soil shall be called) they definitely want to keep the whole podium...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great images coming from the DJI Drone @DJIEurope operators yesterday in the Mosel Valley, right beside the river...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNAOhWvUsAARBIE.jpg:large

[EightGear]

lake... check
grapes... a bit far away but check
straight line driving... check
nice scenery to promote the country... check
autism... check

http://i.imgur.com/QZDgNBa.jpg
There is no lake.

[Mirek]

Kubica stopped again... and Sordo back in front of Neuville.

[Eli]

Kubica stopped again...

has taken a wheel off.

[OldF]

He's scandinavian... we don't have much asphalt experience because we have no rallies run on asphalt (there some in Denmark that I know of but they don't have a huge rally community so there isn't much competition there. Norwegian brothers and sisters, how is it in your nation? Any asphalt events?).

Some tarmac rallies was tried out here in Finland in the past but it was way too fast. The only place in Finland where there are suitable roads for a tarmac rally is Ahvenanmaa / Åland. There are some narrow tarmac roads but I don’t know if there are enough of them for a proper length.

https://www.google.fi/maps/place/Maarianhamina,+Ahvenanmaa/@60.2205481,19.8605832,10z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x468ac39bbbc635ed:0x46420b026c8f9 acd

The only tarmac events are the sprints. In fact we have a sprint cup completely on tarmac.

[Eli]

colin is killing me: "michel matton"...

[tolis]

colin is killing me: "michel matton"...

Michel Mouton he wanted to say! :o

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier crushing the opposition

SS13
1.Ogier
2.Latvala +6.8
3.Meeke +19.6
4.Mikkelsen +20.0
5.Sordo +23.3
6.Ostberg +24.5
7.Evans +29.8
8.Neuville +31.0

[Eli]

Ogier crushing the opposition

SS13
1.Ogier
2.Latvala +6.8
3.Meeke +19.6
4.Mikkelsen +20.0
5.Sordo +23.3
6.Ostberg +24.5
7.Evans +29.8
8.Neuville +31.0

as always...nothing new under the sun...unfortunately...

[Mirek]

No power steering for Abbring...

[Antony Warmbold]

FYI Finns are not "Scandinavians"... But you can say "Nordic".

[N.O.T]

Kubica on his way to claim the record as a person with more crashes/retirements than rally starts...

[Zeakiwi]

Is Kubica able to shift to the World RX Championship? I think a World-RX car with more horsepower would suit him better.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS13: DELECOUR
Late breaking text: He's gone off 11km into Panzerplatte. Crew okay.