Rally Guanajuato México 2015

[N.O.T]

Tanak video: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152749991850678

in the video you can see where the wheel breaks at around 2seconds in, the car dips violently and then its lost

[stefanvv]

So what reason you post that -11 sec compare to Ogier? Kubica's limit it's only Kubica limit without any compare to others

Kubica has no limit. In Rallying You should find some, there are plenty of thing that might go wromg. Fast driver, but what is the point if it is just for few stages?

[AL14]

Is it normal that an experience driver needs advice from an engineer? I'm not ironic, just want to know if Latvala said something with a sense.

[dimviii]

Is it normal that an experience driver needs advice from an engineer? I'm not ironic, just want to know if Latvala said something with a sense.

yes its normal

[N.O.T]

Better to crash car and find limits from above, despite anounce 5 years plan and by step 0.0001sec find limit from downside.

Colin's first win in WRC was at 4th season, how many season Kubica drive in WRC? a?

Colin had nowhere near the crashes Kubica has...

plus colin was in his very early 20s in the first few seasons not in his 30s and his first win in world level came even before competing full time.

[stefanvv]

Watch Sordo :D

someone has to spoil VW party now:)

[KKS]

Kubica has no limit. In Rallying You should find some, there are plenty of thing that might go wromg. Fast driver, but what is the point if it is just for few stages?

Faster to learn, how fast to finish stages, rather then how finish stages faster ;)

[KKS]

yes its normal

And how many time JML judge his own limits?

[stefanvv]

Faster to learn, how fast to finish stages, rather then how finish stages faster ;)

I don't see any progress in the learning process. He is doing what he knows best, just drive as fast as he likes.

[KKS]

good split time from Nueville -1.1

[stefanvv]

wrc+ maps disappeared?

[Mariusz]

Kubica has no limit. In Rallying You should find some, there are plenty of thing that might go wromg. Fast driver, but what is the point if it is just for few stages?
So he's practicing finding his rally limits. Do you know any better places than rally stages for this?

[N.O.T]

So he's practicing finding his rally limits. Do you know any better places than rally stages for this?

when you are practicing for 4 years and you make no progress then something is wrong...

[EstWRC]

Maybe it stalled before it hit the water.

if you look the video then the engine switches before it hits water. so, should be quite ok.

[Allyc85]

wrc+ maps disappeared?

Fine for me on Google Chrome.

[latek]

Thierry pushing...

[KKS]

when you are practicing for 4 years and you make no progress then something is wrong...

I think u miss something
http://www.ewrc-results.com/season.php?s=2013&sct=222 (scroll down)

[Francis44]

when you are practicing for 4 years and you make no progress then something is wrong...

Absolutely no point in arguing with Kubica fans, arguments will be thrown around in an endless discussion with no tomorrow.

[dimviii]

And how many time JML judge his own limits?

wrong quote?

[N.O.T]

I think u miss something
http://www.ewrc-results.com/season.php?s=2013&sct=222 (scroll down)

you also miss the seasons he had in WRC2 and ERC...

[EstWRC]

Cmon Neuville, man this guy is really in groove since sweden

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_chchFUsAAN524.jpg

[Francis44]

What the hell is Neuville really winning 6 seconds on Ogier with just 3 splits?!

[Rallyper]

in the video you can see where the wheel breaks at around 2seconds in, the car dips violently and then its lost

Yes, it´s quite clear that there is some sort of wrong when right front wheel pointing in wrong direction just before going off.

[jonkka]

What the hell is Neuville really winning 6 seconds on Ogier with just 3 splits?!

Yeah, and he's faster than JML at split 2

[N.O.T]

What the hell is Neuville really winning 6 seconds on Ogier with just 3 splits?!

Its normal... Ogier has to learn the new grip levels on clean roads.... the others already know them.

[dimviii]

if Neuville continue at splits like that maybe will be leader after stage 8

[AL14]

Yes I have to admit I didn't expect such a pace from Neuville, second on the road with a slower car. Very impressive indeed.

[Negaiss]

Ogier +4 mins on WRC+

[KKS]

wrong quote?

nope, he's crashing crashing and crashing... then learn his limits, not crash few rally and then start crashing again.... and then he get an enginner and stop crashing. It take more than 5 yrs

[AL14]

Ogier +4 mins on WRC+

It's just an error.

[HaCo]

Are they 6 mins faster than this morning?

[dimviii]

Yes I have to admit I didn't expect such a pace from Neuville, second on the road with a slower car. Very impressive indeed.

lets see and the last km,usually Ogier is fast there

[HaCo]

Are they 6 mins faster than this morning?

It's corrected, 35secs faster.

[dimviii]

lets see and the last km,usually Ogier is fast there

Ogier closing the gap

[AL14]

Ogier closing the gap

You self-quote yourself? :D

Btw, yes he always is very fast at the end of stages.

[KKS]

Looks like Ogier have incar info with splittimes.... somehow

[HaCo]

Do they start every 3 minutes maybe?

[latek]

Neuville stoped?

[AL14]

Is Neuville stopped?

[dimviii]

You self-quote yourself? :D


i have permission from NOT

[RAS007]

Neuville not moving on wrc+....

[bluuford]

neuville stopped?

[jparker]

something happened to Neuville

[EstWRC]

Neuville out it seems, shame

[AL14]

On the map it is stopped and has only 3kmh, I think it has problem

[KKS]

aiaiaiai
Best-of-RallyLive ‏@bestofrallylive (https://twitter.com/bestofrallylive) 42s43 seconds ago (https://twitter.com/bestofrallylive/status/573967951994470401) SS8: @thierryneuville (https://twitter.com/thierryneuville) has stopped in the stage #wrc (https://twitter.com/hashtag/wrc?src=hash) #rallymexico (https://twitter.com/hashtag/rallymexico?src=hash)

[jonkka]

Damn it!

[RAS007]

If he is out, rally over. What a fucking bore.

[HaCo]

Noooooooooooooooooooooo :(

[jparker]

well, that's it with the fun this time.

[EstWRC]

Latvala the only one now.

[Francis44]

Let's see what Latvala does in this stage, he might get a bit closer.

[rallye-vid]

VW 1,2,3 at the end

[dimviii]

Hyundai Motorsport ‏@HyundaiWRC 1 λεπτόΠριν από 1 λεπτό Προβολή μετάφρασης
#Neuville slid off the road in a left-hand corner.

[dimviii]

Latvala faster for 2 sec

[EstWRC]

pffff, stop this rally and on to Argentina please.

[N.O.T]

pffff, stop this rally and on to Argentina please.

you think it will change anything ?

[jonkka]

Latvala faster for 2 sec

I must say - pretty pathetic show...

[EstWRC]

yes i think

[jparker]

It looks like Neuville learnd where to crash from Latvala.

[dimviii]

I must say - pretty pathetic show...

unfortunately he cant do something better.At stages he can be faster from Ogier.At whole rally very difficult.For championship impossible.

[Negaiss]

you think it will change anything ?

Yes! It will be in different America!!!

[mousti]

This is **** now!

But definately the Hyundai and Neuville improved quite a lot since last year! But they are not quite there yet (but that's probably planned the new car should be on perfect pace) but Neuville is trying to match Ogier's pace but has to go fully on and over the limit. Many moments and then it has to go wrong somewhere, sadly.. But it looks promising for the future I think :)

[AL14]

unfortunately he cant do something better.At stages he can be faster from Ogier.At whole rally very difficult.For championship impossible.

I thought this year it would be a better year for JariMatti, last year he won in straights fights with Ogier but it seems it was just an illusion.

[jparker]

Good pace for Evans. Less then a minute from leader after 8 stages.

[dimviii]

MORE NEWS ON NEUVILLE: Leak in the radiator that cannot be fixed #WRC #RallyMexico #iRally


time or a Corona lol

[litifeta]

Just watched the Kubica onboard for Los Mexicanos 1. So hard to believe that was 1.8 seconds slower than Meeke. Just shows how much concentration you need to be a stage winner.

[dimviii]

Hyundai Motorsport ‏@HyundaiWRC
More news on #Neuville. He had a puncture towards the end of SS8, lost the car and rolled. Crew ok, car will be recovered by the team.

[dimviii]

https://scontent-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/s720x720/11045301_801507636583822_6772497547103735705_o.jpg

[KKS]

Just watched the Kubica onboard for Los Mexicanos 1. So hard to believe that was 1.8 seconds slower than Meeke. Just shows how much concentration you need to be a stage winner.
Watch video? - share it :)

[danon]

A cosy sofa is waiting the winners... Neuville knew it...

http://s12.postimg.org/lxdlrxmel/csfw.jpg

[KKS]

Great split form Mads, really on battle with Mikkelsen

[jparker]

I hope I'm wrong, but judging by steep shore, car may have slid long way down from initial dive.

[KKS]

Yeah Mads!!!
10:58.7

[wwbroe]

Besttime for Ostberg, good pace on this one.

[AL14]

What has said Latvala at the radio? I didn't understand but everyone was laughing...So now I'm curious

[KKS]

Protasov and Nasser on his own league on SS8
Protasov
Nasser +5.6
Ketomaa +1.06.3

[noel157]

Who did not go into the stage? Missed it on RR.

[bluuford]

guerra

[smsgrafica]

http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/uploads/vw_pics/vw-20150306-5424-low-VW-WRC15-03-RB2-1547.jpg

[PLuto]

Official WRC pages: "Apologies for the lack of live text updates in recent stages. A combination of illness and our desire to bring you the latest news on Ott Tanak's crash means resources are rather stretched! We'll resume normal service as soon as possible."

[dimviii]

Sordo
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_cxNZDWYAAe5q0.jpg

[dimviii]

M-Sport ‏@MSportLtd 24 λεπτάΠριν από 24 λεπτά Προβολή μετάφρασης
The crane is making its way through Los Mexicanos - operation #TiTanak is go! #WRC #RallyMexico

[Mariusz]

when you are practicing for 4 years and you make no progress then something is wrong...
I can see progress, he is considerably faster this season. And he is not planning to go slow tomorrow, so sit tight and enjoy the rally.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It's the end of the road for @thierryneuville & @nicolasgilsoul today, they rolled out after getting a puncture. #WRC pic.twitter.com/fzCblHEoup

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_c2fixUIAAensk.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_c1YyVWcAE8UVF.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_c1YzPXEAE-rKS.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_c1YydW8AATNKW.jpg

[noel157]

Meeke:

"It's bitterly disappointing. I just braked too late into a fast right, which was followed by a tight left. We got off line and just couldn't get it back, so we never made the left-hander. We clipped a rock on the outside and that was it," explained Meeke.
"I'm at a bit of a loss to explain it right now. The road was slippery, but I was just too late on the brakes.
"The specific goal today was to not make a mistake, so I'm really angry with myself. Now we just have to get back on the road on Saturday and learn as much as possible."

[Fast Eddie WRC]

#TiTanak update: the recovery truck has arrived at the scene :)

[AL14]

I can see progress, he is considerably faster this season.

He does not need to progress in speed. He needs to see finish lines. No progress in that front unfortunately.

[DonJippo]

It's the end of the road for @thierryneuville & @nicolasgilsoul today, they rolled out after getting a puncture. #WRC pic.twitter.com/fzCblHEoup

Looking at the pictures dimvii posted, where is the puncture? Spare tyre?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Looking at the pictures dimvii posted, where is the puncture? Spare tyre?

Rear right.

So, we had a puncture at the end of SS8, lost the rear of the car and had a little crash.

pic.twitter.com/k77ENdZqkM

[noel157]

Tanak talks about his adventures:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i7y14y061Q

[Mariusz]

He does not need to progress in speed. He needs to see finish lines. No progress in that front unfortunately.
Almost all current wrc drivers need more speed. It's the only way Ogier can start making more mistakes. If not then we will be seeing the same scenario almost every rally until Ogier decides to have some fun in other motorsport and retires in 5-10 years.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

#TiTanak update: The Fiesta is out of the water. The next step is to get it back on the stage..

[Mariusz]

Do they have the whole night for this?

[noel157]

Do they have the whole night for this?

Think they can take as long as needed before notifying organisers of Rally 2 and scrutineers needs to examine it. Technically the car and crew are retired.

[PLuto]

Think they can take as long as needed before notifying organisers of Rally 2 and scrutineers needs to examine it. Technically the car and crew are retired.

I dont know what is actual rule for rally2, but in times of superally it was different from, ERC events, there was only limited time for servicing the car in WRC.

[Mariusz]

I'm watching live service park feed and Tanak's car is not looking that bad from outside. They've just started checking if the roll cage is ok.

[litifeta]

Been watching the onboards on WRC+. Ogier is sailing close to the wind. Boy he is hitting some stuff and getting away with it so far.

[raybak]

I think they need to have the car into parc ferme by 1am local time. Will go and check up the regs. I know in Super Rally the times that I have used it we had 4 hours from when we took the car out of the holding area.

Ray

[cosmin_sb]

It is 0:15 local time. They still working at the car,. I hope they can fixed it

[raybak]

They have about 15 mins left to get in to parc ferme.

[litifeta]

hope someone posts a video of them getting the car out of the water

[cosmin_sb]

the car is out from service park. I lost the moment when the car leave it.

[EstWRC]

As i understood the engine was running and the car is working and they will continue, absolutely incredible.

https://instagram.com/p/z6nVPiNXUW/

[stefanvv]

We clipped a rock on the outside and that was it," explained Meeke.

A rock, or a wall of rocks?

[dimviii]

stages 3-10 Crash Meeke,Neuville.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDwlnbWstKc

[dimviii]

borl day 1 with Neuvilles crash from outside.Must entered the corner with some 40km/h more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe60gumBkhU

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_emIUMWQAAjpXR.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_dvjUsVEAAi0TO.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_ecBbRUIAAsI3g.jpg

[dimviii]

Raigo swimming with his notes at hand.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_d1zXpUcAAxTCC.jpg


anybody with Thierrys mobile?

WRC ‏@OfficialWRC
.@thierryneuville lost his personal mobile phone during his roll today, if you find it can you please bring it to the service park.


while Otts and Raigos mobiles are drying in a bowl of rice

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_enmuYXAAAV9bC.jpg



nice photo
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_dHnXAUsAIL5Vc.jpg

[dimviii]

Looking at the pictures dimvii posted, where is the puncture? Spare tyre?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_c9DE0VAAAcUCg.jpg

[Ounin]

Funny coincidence Neuville lost his phone like Gilsoul lots it in rally Germany last year on their shakedown roll!

[stefanvv]

Kubica finally stops in a tree:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkHEZyp8icM

[EstWRC]

The team were determined to see the crew back on the stages. Despite the car being completely submerged for almost 10 hours, M-Sport's technicians were prepared to work throughout the night in an effort to repair the Fiesta, and repair it they did – with the help of both Tänak and Mõlder who stayed by their team's side until the work was complete.

Changing the gearbox, fuel tank, turbo, cooling package, boost control valves, electronic components, brake components, front and rear suspension components as well as a number of cosmetic components, the team also repaired the engine block and drained the engine of excess water.

Completing the work in just three hours, it was an outstanding job by the technicians who have once again proven themselves to be in a true class of their own. To complete this epic story, the number six Fiesta RS WRC was driven into parc fermé by Tänak and Mõlder.

Ott Tänak (29th) said:

"This is something that we have never seen before. The car has been gone all day, submerged at the bottom of a lake, full of water, and the team had to do a full rebuild in just three hours!

"It was a crazy challenge, but I knew the M-Sport guys would be up for it. I have massive respect for my team. This was a huge task to do, but they have worked as hard as they always do and I am so grateful to each and every one of them.

"To get back out on the stages tomorrow is very important for me and Raigo [Mõlder, co-driver]. We need to rebuild our confidence and get back behind the wheel, and my team have made that happen this evening."

[HarriK]

Funny coincidence Neuville lost his phone like Gilsoul lots it in rally Germany last year on their shakedown roll!

was that phone inside of the rear fender? Or do I remember right...

[Kalm]

was that phone inside of the rear fender? Or do I remember right...

That was Kruuda in Poland i think

[dimviii]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10387554_10206207355008394_3682768670203477356_n.j pg?oh=af3658ef8518f86ffca2b1fe879149e9&oe=55951E97&__gda__=1434504424_96e56f569e6595a22875dbd945b07bd a
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11058416_10206207355328402_86263832674339783_n.jpg ?oh=af9dc652fb4b036b5fba97e885c0510e&oe=557A918F&__gda__=1434953555_00b9c9a95d028b71d54a820902b1aa3 9

[EstWRC]

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/_processed_/csm_Ott-Tanak-Ford-Fiesta-Bergung_0af7e08ea6.jpg

[KKS]

Impressive job done by MSport team for Ott car! Welldone!!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Stunning recovery & then repair by M-Sport .. respect.

[eib1]

busy night in pictures:
https://twitter.com/OfficialWRC/media

[sindroms]

Seems to me that it is the Estonians who have very odd relations with this kind of "swimming"...

2009, South Estonia rally - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfj1FhOFlFc (starting from 8:00).
Then in 2012 rallysprint "Gulbis" (Latvia) estonian crew after few rolls landeed on roof in pond and only thanks to fans their lives were rescued.
Now Ott and Raigo...

Please no more, neighbours :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

http://www.grappling-italia.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/impossibru.jpg

Nothing is impossible with WRC mechanics !! :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

But the crew will be exhausted staying up to help fix the car... :(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_eNyHxU0AAFi4X.jpg

[EstWRC]

...and it is ALIVE at 2:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfM_cPD1Clo

[COD]

Huge respect for the team. Incredible achievement.

With this they have created more positive PR for M-Sport than their current drivers will achieve the whole year.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_fLm2PWYAAYXwL.jpg

[AL14]

8 drivers under rally2 and 7 normally competing. And we have still 2 days to go. Crazy.

[dimviii]

best photo till now from A.Lanadinho

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_frI56U8AM1-ou.jpg

[tommeke_B]

I like this one much more. ;)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t31.0-8/11025894_10152750753110678_3036373058350785540_o.j pg

[stefanvv]

I like them both:)

[dimviii]

@Τοm

i prefere the one i posted because it gives the feeling of speed with the front dive of suspension,and the front left wheel at the ideal line.

[N.O.T]

Sometimes you do not have to be the winner of an event or to set the fastest times to be the man (or in this case men) of the rally !!!

WELL DONE M-SPORT !!!

[tommeke_B]

@Τοm

i prefere the one i posted because it gives the feeling of speed with the front dive of suspension,and the front left wheel at the ideal line.

Just a pitty you need to tilt your head to watch the photo.

[dimviii]

these are bigger ones

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/35/83/Rallye_Mexiko_2015_116_358312_54faaeacd.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/35/83/Rallye_Mexiko_2015_102_358314_54faaeaeb.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/35/83/Rallye_Mexiko_2015_115_358318_54faaeb2b.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/35/83/Rallye_Mexiko_2015_117_358319_54faaeb37.jpg

[stefanvv]

VW the video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE-GEX7fFRY

[wrchirek]

So much Rally2 cars make Ogier's starting position ideal.

[Mintexmemory]

So much Rally2 cars make Ogier's starting position ideal.

Yes but he'll hate the dust they throw up!!! ;-)

[dimviii]

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/35/83/Rallye_Mexiko_2015_088_358334_54faaec19.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/35/83/Rallye_Mexiko_2015_089_358336_54faaec33.jpg

watch the go=pro camera

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/35/78/Rallye_Mexiko_2015_075_357844_54f95c026.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/35/74/Rallye_Mexiko_2015_04_357478_54f87799d.jpg

[Barreis]

I like hyundai girls... ;)

[dimviii]

best photo till now from A.Lanadinho

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_frI56U8AM1-ou.jpg

Latvala at same corner
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11025764_944875905547224_2228803796812348621_n.jpg ?oh=e5bed094cca0fce769666c423cab6bac&oe=55917DD9&__gda__=1434308482_4ab2436244eeb72a7114f80df0bcddf 3

[stefanvv]

Yes but he'll hate the dust they throw up!!! ;-)

I have a deja vu

[A FONDO]

Just a pitty you need to tilt your head to watch the photo.

I hate that. Why do they do it? It can ruin even the best photo.

[Mintexmemory]

I hate that. Why do they do it? It can ruin even the best photo.

It's called art! Stop being so 'representational'!

[PLuto]

So much Rally2 cars make Ogier's starting position ideal.

As you can see yesterday, his first starting position was not so bad over all...

[PLuto]

I must say I absolutely dont understand why they have changed notional times in SS 3 and SS 4 at the end of day when comparing second runs through the stages. They were in ideal situation, when almost all WRC cars went through stages normally and "rest of the field" not. So why the rest of drivers cannot have same times? For me this is really stupid...

[LouKayne]

As you can see yesterday, his first starting position was not so bad over all...

It's because it was unseasonably cold and the gravel wasn't as dry and loose as usual.

[KKS]

Yes a bit stupid after this http://www.rallymexico.com/files/rep/3.6_CoC_Decision_1.pdf they decide this http://www.rallymexico.com/files/rep/3.8_CoC_Decision_3.pdf

[AL14]

It's because it was unseasonably cold and the gravel wasn't as dry and loose as usual.

I think that it was simply because he is the best. I don't like him but he show another time his strenght and that others are far from his pace. The only one close to him is Latvala but everything has to be perfect and it doesn't happen everytime in rally. Plus he has been clever in tyre choise and it counts as well. No one in the world could earn 10 seconds opening the road in a stage, with cold or hot weather.

[tommeke_B]

I would say Neuville is probably a bigger threat to him than Latvala. He's already really close to Ogier in pacen in Sweden and now before he crashed. If the new Hyundai WRC will be reasonably quicker than the current one (and it should be) things could get really interesting... :)

[AL14]

I would say Neuville is probably a bigger threat to him than Latvala. He's already really close to Ogier in pacen in Sweden and now before he crashed. If the new Hyundai WRC will be reasonably quicker than the current one (and it should be) things could get really interesting... :)

It would be perfect next year to see legendary battles between Neuville, Ogier, Latvala and Mikkelsen like back in '98 between Sainz, McRae, Makkinen and Burns but I know it's just a dream :)

[stefanvv]

I would say Neuville is probably a bigger threat to him than Latvala. He's already really close to Ogier in pacen in Sweden and now before he crashed. If the new Hyundai WRC will be reasonably quicker than the current one (and it should be) things could get really interesting... :)

I agree. Almost all depends on the car now, he seem to minimize his mistakes used to have done 2 or 3 years ago.

[Mintexmemory]

I would say Neuville is probably a bigger threat to him than Latvala. He's already really close to Ogier in pacen in Sweden and now before he crashed. If the new Hyundai WRC will be reasonably quicker than the current one (and it should be) things could get really interesting... :)

Alert Alert - Benelux over-optimism warning!!!!


No Tom, Thierry was over-limit and Ogier was cruising. When Thierry tried to match the Ogier pace yesterday he ended up doing what people have criticised Kubica for. Latvala has played himself in to the rally and has a 10 sec deficit, he must stop losing seconds in the SSS type stage.
Had Ogier really been sweeping today JML might have had a chance but Ogier will match whatever Latvala can do, 1-2-3 VW can only be stopped by Ostberg now.

[AL14]

Yes Neuville is a better driver and his car is a better car but it's too much to say he's already a serious threat for Ogier. I think Latvala is still the best of the rest, although he has had a disappointing start of the championship.

[stefanvv]

ans yes, we shouldn't discount Latvala just yet. He seem to play different game this year, let's see how it'll turn out.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Amazing job by an amazing team of WRC mechanics...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_eRmGHUYAEdyQj.jpg:large

I've has some M-Sport stickers for a while, wondering whether to put them on my car, but I think M-Sport deserve the publicity now so they're going on ! :)

http://www.oneallsports.com/media/catalog/category/M-SportLogo_zps4daae15c_2.jpg

[Simmi]

Doesn't look like Ott's car is starting. Honestly surprised more people weren't questioning this. There's no way that car can be anywhere close to 100%.

[Mariusz]

Even Malcom was helping :)
Now I'm thinking that they had to rebuild the car anyway so why not do it during the rally. But good job M-Sport and go Tanak!

[stefanvv]

Doesn't look like Ott's car is starting. Honestly surprised more people weren't questioning this. There's no way that car can be anywhere close to 100%.

noticed that. Some mechanic did some magic after 1:30 min trying to start, may be fuel pump related?

[Simmi]

Regardless it's the best PR and biggest story M-Sport will generate all year. They could win multiple rallies and not gain half the coverage they have in the last 24 hours.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ott Tanak: Lots of concern and still many jobs to finish ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_gHVyXWIAAeCyR.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_gHnYRUIAEGrJF.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak - Car is going and we leave service.... :)

https://twitter.com/OttTanak/status/574220521060990976

[stefanvv]

Guess what song is playing WRR right now?

[br21]

noticed that. Some mechanic did some magic after 1:30 min trying to start, may be fuel pump related?

They were cranking the car to remove some excess water left, to check many things - pressures, etc and finally build oil pressure. When they wanted to start it it started immediately.
They changed whole fuel tank, so complete with fuel pumps, so shouldn't have problems with them.

[denkimi]

Alert Alert - Benelux over-optimism warning!!!!


No Tom, Thierry was over-limit and Ogier was cruising. When Thierry tried to match the Ogier pace yesterday he ended up doing what people have criticised Kubica for. Latvala has played himself in to the rally and has a 10 sec deficit, he must stop losing seconds in the SSS type stage.
Had Ogier really been sweeping today JML might have had a chance but Ogier will match whatever Latvala can do, 1-2-3 VW can only be stopped by Ostberg now.
yet, the only drivers i think that are able to challenge ogier for the win are neuville and meeke.
but they don't have the car, and in meeke's case the experience to do it yet.

its a real shame. latvala is the only one with the same equipment as ogier, but he doesn't even try to beat him, he just settles for second. after 10 years in the wrc he still looks for stupid excuses to explain why he can't win.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Noooo :(

Becs Williams ‏@Becsywecsy 2m2 minutes ago
Sadly we believe @OttTanak has stopped just out of service - more updates as we get them

[dimviii]

Becs Williams ‏@Becsywecsy
Sadly we believe @OttTanak has stopped just out of service - more updates as we get them

[stefanvv]

I'm disappointed

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_gNwu-UsAATP7W.jpg:large

@OttTanak and Raigo in contact with the engineers trying to get the Fiesta going. We will not give up without a fight! #WRC

[stefanvv]

may be the car is running again?

[tommeke_B]

Alert Alert - Benelux over-optimism warning!!!!


No Tom, Thierry was over-limit and Ogier was cruising. When Thierry tried to match the Ogier pace yesterday he ended up doing what people have criticised Kubica for. Latvala has played himself in to the rally and has a 10 sec deficit, he must stop losing seconds in the SSS type stage.
Had Ogier really been sweeping today JML might have had a chance but Ogier will match whatever Latvala can do, 1-2-3 VW can only be stopped by Ostberg now.
I don't think it's "over-optimism" as you call it. Over-optimism would be claiming he will be world champion. ;) We'll have to wait and see when Ogier is under real pressure. It's a mental game they're playing by saying they can go faster. Don't always believe what they say, especially if the driver talking (or should I say complaining) is Ogier.

[Kalm]

even if they cant get it going, the got out of the time control and started for the day, so basically they can superrally tomorrow :D

[LouKayne]

I think that it was simply because he is the best. I don't like him but he show another time his strenght and that others are far from his pace. The only one close to him is Latvala but everything has to be perfect and it doesn't happen everytime in rally. Plus he has been clever in tyre choise and it counts as well. No one in the world could earn 10 seconds opening the road in a stage, with cold or hot weather.

Isn't Neuville in 2nd? and Yes he is undoubtably the best but the temperature definitely helped.

[Negaiss]

Tanak stopped! I think it might be game M-sport is playing. Dont want to be first on road. I think Tanak will fix car after 20 mins or so an go to the start line.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WRC: He might not be leading them off after all - his car's engine has stopped again en-route to Ibarrilla. Fingers crossed he can get it going. If not, he'll have to Rally 2 again on Sunday.

[eib1]

Tänak is moving

[stefanvv]

TiTanak is moving

[AL14]

Isn't Neuville in 2nd? and Yes he is undoubtably the best but the temperature definitely helped.

I agree it helped but everyone in his place would have lost time anyway. Gravel was very loose.

[stefanvv]

stopped again, suspiciously it looks like on a bridge

[EstWRC]

Refuelling

[AL14]

Becsy on the radio said it's just refuel and he sould move again shortly

[EstWRC]

Taking too long, damn Fiesta

[PLuto]

Becsy on the radio said it's just refuel and he sould move again shortly

I dont know, but cars which arrived to this place after him has left few minutes ago...

[eib1]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_gVrnWUwAA3f-X.jpg

[EstWRC]

shame, all over for today i think.

[KKS]

still stopped?

[EstWRC]

yes and 13 minutes left to get to the stage, otherwise all done for today

[LouKayne]

I agree it helped but everyone in his place would have lost time anyway. Gravel was very loose.

The biggest reason why he has gained time, I think is because of how smooth he drives and being able to bring speed through the corner. Having 20% less power at this elevation makes it hard to gain traction and power if your off line in a corner.

[EstWRC]

it is over, tomorrow again :(

[gorganl2000]

It would be perfect next year to see legendary battles between Neuville, Ogier, Latvala and Mikkelsen like back in '98 between Sainz, McRae, Makkinen and Burns but I know it's just a dream :)

imo and i'm also disappointed to say this..i just don't think lavala has what it takes mentally and driving skill wise over an entire season. i'd like to be proven wrong so the championship would be much more competitive and to see him reach that "final level" as a driver after all these year, but it's just not looking that way.
maybe he's at his peak now?? i don't know
Neuville, mikkelsen and even meeke to some degree seem to be better bets to challenge ogier if they can somehow fine tune their skill/car package to take it up just a little notch speed and consistency wise.

[dimviii]

Latvala 0,9 faster at 1st split.

[AL14]

imo and i'm also disappointed to say this..i just don't think lavala has what it takes mentally and driving skill wise over an entire season. i'd like to be proven wrong so the championship would be much more competitive and to see him reach that "final level" as a driver after all these year, but it's just not looking that way.
maybe he's at his peak now?? i don't know
Neuville, mikkelsen and even meeke to some degree seem to be better bets to challenge ogier if they can somehow fine tune their skill/car package to take it up just a little notch speed and consistency wise.

It seems Latvala didn't improve since 2010 actually, a bit last year but it seems this year is worse. I hope I'm wrong and you are wrong to, but rationally speaking I think we are right.
Meeke crashes too much but I agree with Neuville and Mikkelsen, they can be a real threat next years let's see...

[KKS]

What does this mean?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_gZJ8OW8AAuX0K.jpg

[dimviii]

iRally ‏@Official_iRally 34 δευτερόλεπταΠριν από 34 δευτερόλεπτα Προβολή μετάφρασης
Jari-Matti faster than Ogier by Split 2 as well, 1.7 seconds quicker! #WRC #RallyMexico #iRally

[AL14]

Go Latvala, show dumb people you can do it. LOL :D

[stefanvv]

Latvala loses 1.4 at 3rd

[AL14]

Last splits Ogier's faster everytime.

[RICARDO75]

Latvala is faster on the splits

[stefanvv]

yep, Ogier now faster with 0.3

[dimviii]

iRally ‏@Official_iRally
Latvala 0.3 seconds slower than Ogier at final split

[AL14]

latvala 0.2 seconds slower.

[stefanvv]

0.1 at the end

[KKS]

Evans have a good run, same pace as Mads do.... good one!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak update: technicians remove service park roof to ensure the car gets as much sun as possible when back... :cool:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_geDHDVAAAzWBb.jpg

[dimviii]

iRally ‏@Official_iRally 1 λεπτόΠριν από 1 λεπτό Προβολή μετάφρασης
Hearing that Latvala hit a rock 5km from end of stage #WRC #RallyMexico

[tommeke_B]

iRally ‏@Official_iRally 1 λεπτόΠριν από 1 λεπτό Προβολή μετάφρασης
Hearing that Latvala hit a rock 5km from end of stage #WRC #RallyMexico

Are you sure it's not a tweet from 2 years ago? :p

[dimviii]

Are you sure it's not a tweet from 2 years ago? :p
Latvala "It was not a moment, there is a big rock inside the right hand corner, i was cutting over it and hit that."

[KKS]

Evans a little bit slow at 2nd part of stage... Might be good pressure to Mikkelsen, but only 1.6 sec

[KKS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_gfhI9WAAA_K22.jpg
Ogier: "It's so much loose gravel there.... khe-khe" :)

[janvanvurpa]

As i understood the engine was running and the car is working and they will continue, absolutely incredible.

https://instagram.com/p/z6nVPiNXUW/

The mechanics eared their pay this time...good job.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sorry missed this... why did Meeke, Kubica & Paddon get such big time penalties after yesterday, compared to Neuville ?

[PLuto]

Sorry missed this... why did Meeke, Kubica & Paddon get such big time penalties after yesterday, compared to Neuville ?

Because they have retired earlier so they missed more stages.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Because they have retired earlier so they missed more stages.

Of course, yes. Thanks.

[dimviii]

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/3982876511.jpg

[dimviii]

have we got any info about what tyres choosed?

[AL14]

have we got any info about what tyres choosed?

News just in from Michelin. Numbers and compounds (hard or soft) of the tyres cars left with for this morning’s stages: M Sport/Volkswagen/Ostberg/Neuville/Paddon: 5H - Meeke: 6H - Mikkelsen/Sordo: 4H+1S

[Medved]

"News just in from Michelin. Numbers and compounds (hard or soft) of the tyres cars left with for this morning’s stages: M Sport/Volkswagen/Ostberg/Neuville/Paddon: 5H - Meeke: 6H - Mikkelsen/Sordo: 4H+1S"

[dimviii]

thanks guys!
so everybody on hard compound,and only Meeke with extra weight from 2nd spare wheel

[dimviii]

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iRally ‏@Official_iRally 1 λεπτόΠριν από 1 λεπτό Προβολή μετάφρασης
Guerra on the move, Bertelli still stopped #WRC #RallyMexico #iRally

[dimviii]

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8594/16739431671_f085d551bb_b.jpg
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8675/16735360001_3676592ec0_b.jpg
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7294/16533366467_b145ebb392_b.jpg

[dimviii]

Maybe this is the best one,even with wrong camera angle

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_gtNVkWQAAwKhN.jpg

[dimviii]

Latvala has lost 47 seconds at split 4

rally finished

[jonkka]

JML doesn't disappoint...

[dimviii]

Thierry Neuville's gearbox oil is leaking at the stop point of SS12

[Negaiss]

Ostberg chasing latvala on maps. Will pass soon ..

[dimviii]

Latvala lost over 2 minutes at split 5..

[AL14]

Ogier will be alone in the power stage.

[dimviii]

Ogier will be alone in the power stage.

lol

[Ounin]

Latvala has lost 47 seconds at split 4

rally finished

Season finished

[dimviii]

nobody is here?
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRlgOJHN6SyHDUd151gP2XoxuhQFyUrs IHfUpUeV6FoyZrT66sv_Q

[A FONDO]

Maybe this is the best one,even with wrong camera angle

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_gtNVkWQAAwKhN.jpg
too much crop, and colors are unreal


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8675/16735360001_3676592ec0_b.jpg

this is the best one, and the first I saved on my pc

[dimviii]

UPDATE: Left rear wheel hanging off Latvala's car at 35km #WRC #RallyMexico #iRally

UPDATE: Considerable damage to the front of Latvala's car, he appears to have had an impact #WRC #RallyMexico #iRally

[jonkka]

too much crop
this is the best one, and the first I saved on my pc

You like lakes?

[Allyc85]

As if Ogier needs any help...

[dimviii]

VolkswagenMotorsport ‏@VolkswagenRally 2 λεπτάΠριν από 2 λεπτά Προβολή μετάφρασης
His Polo R WRC is heavily damaged, they have lost a rear wheel #Volkswagen #WRC

Latvala 36:11.8 "It broke the rear suspension so we broke the rear wheel. Touched a bank." #WRC #RallyMexico #iRally

[jonkka]

UPDATE: Left rear wheel hanging off Latvala's car at 35km #WRC #RallyMexico #iRally


If so, why is he trying to reach the end? He can't drive on road section with three wheels.

[KKS]

Now Mads must keep car on the road, Andreas will not push him.

[KKS]

VolkswagenMotorsport ‏@VolkswagenRally 2 λεπτάΠριν από 2 λεπτά Προβολή μετάφρασης
His Polo R WRC is heavily damaged, they have lost a rear wheel #Volkswagen #WRC
Interesting to see what could broke THE TANK :D

[KKS]

If so, why is he trying to reach the end? He can't drive on road section with three wheels.

They have scotch and time..... sometime it helps

[dbrito26]

What happen to Bertelli?

[KKS]

Not a half a rally and we have just 6 WRC cars witout serious problems

[latek]

We need Loeb back. There is no even one competent driver currently in WRC to challange Ogier.

[dbrito26]

We need Loeb back. There is no even one competent driver currently in WRC to challange Ogier.

No, we need a better citroen, a better Ford and Hyundai.

[KKS]

or just more crazy drivers ;)

[dimviii]

cars are enough good.Drivers is the problem

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_g0VxzUYAA7qbQ.jpg

[stefanvv]

I need better wrc+

[Miika]

Interesting to see what could broke THE TANK :D

River deep, mountain high:


Latvala: "We touched a mountain a little bit and broke the rear suspension, lost the rear wheel."

[tommeke_B]

I need better wrc+

Try a different browser. I have issues with it in Safari, but in Google Chrome it works great!

[Bartek]

or just more crazy drivers ;)

We have Kubica and it doesn't work.

Lefevbre isn't a material for a new french champion