Rallye Monte Carlo 2015

[christy but]

just wondering is the rally going to to be spread over a number of days or fri/sat/sun

[nafpaktos]

i think the details have already been released.

[wwbroe]

Yes, there is indeed allready a thread for Rallye Monte Carlo 2015

[bluuford]

I could not find official thread, so, maybe someone could correct the title of this thread and add link to the official page:
http://acm.mc/en/rallye-monte-carlo/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

MC Power Stage looking spectacular... :eek:

COL ST JEAN - ST LAURENT 2 (PS) 10,50Km

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3x9I-SIgAA3bnY.jpg

[nafpaktos]

i think i have seen a lot of terrific videos and photos from that part of road in the past

[Mirek]

Believe it or not there are much nicer roads there. This power stage is all on a wide flat road. This particular section is well known from the past Col de Braus stage. Just few hundreds of meters from this section there is a crossroads leading to Col de l'Ablé and Peira Cava. That is the best rally road I have ever driven during my RMC visits. It was used last time in 2009 IRC edition as first part of the Col de Turini TV stage and also many times in Rally d'Antibes. It's also well known from Škoda testing videos from 2010-2012.

[Rallyper]

That PS and icy road or even snowy?!

[Mirek]

That PS and icy road or even snowy?!

I'm no local specialist but in my four visits this road was never icy. The one I mentioned yes, often but this one not.

[Rallyper]

I'm no local specialist but in my four visits this road was never icy. The one I mentioned yes, often but this one not.

I have no idea how it usually is, but those twisty ones is just sooo challenging having some snow on them. Even for experienced wrc-driver with practically no studs.

[Mirek]

Yes, but this particular road is all on a southern slope directed to the sea if I'm not mistaken.

[EstWRC]

Neuville Monte Carlo test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJjlOYdQZcM&sns=em

[nafpaktos]

I would expect more speed from thierry during a Pre-event test.My opinion is he was far from the limit espessially for PET.

[Tom206wrc]

Sébastien Chardonnet to Monte-Carlo in a 208 T16(he would have been spotted testing) :confused:

[A FONDO]

WOuld be good to add the year of the event in the title thread

[PLuto]

WOuld be good to add the year of the event in the title thread

Done

[Tom206wrc]

Pre-entrylist Monte-Carlo 2015 available on http://www.ewrc-results.com/ :cool:

[Silverbullet050]

Why DS boys entered under their own names and not a team name?

[nafpaktos]

I just found this video and it says that lefebvre is testing.What for he tests a 208 for monte????maybe the director of the video gave wrong label??(chardonnet maybe?)


https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=rfqmNglqDnI

[EightGear]

It was development work I believe.

[RICARDO75]

I just found this video and it says that lefebvre is testing.What for he tests a 208 for monte????maybe the director of the video gave wrong label??(chardonnet maybe?)


https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=rfqmNglqDnI

Chardonnet and Lefebvre
https://www.facebook.com/benoit.morel.9/media_set?set=a.737408116344462.1073741886.1000022 58415379&type=1

[Andre Oliveira]

Why DS boys entered under their own names and not a team name?

Because we don't know the real name of the team yet :)

[EightGear]

Bouffier in a Fiesta again!

https://www.facebook.com/148123678606489/photos/a.219750481443808.54076.148123678606489/741120579306793/?type=1&permPage=1

So I guess this means no 3rd Hyundai at MC?

[Barreis]

Also here about Bouffier...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117198

[RS]

Bouffier in a Fiesta again!

https://www.facebook.com/148123678606489/photos/a.219750481443808.54076.148123678606489/741120579306793/?type=1&permPage=1

So I guess this means no 3rd Hyundai at MC?

Hanninen would be good for Monte with a reasonable amount of testing.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great to see Bouffier at MC - has a fine record in the last few years so hope he goes well again.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5OwkabCcAA46br.jpg

[Co-driven]

Isn't Bouffier's co-driver Panseri comprting in Dakar rally? He'll have enough time to finish the rally in Argentina and get in time to statt recce in Monte?

[A FONDO]

Isn't Bouffier's co-driver Panseri comprting in Dakar rally? He'll have enough time to finish the rally in Argentina and get in time to statt recce in Monte?

In the facebook page linked a few posts above they say it: Just back from Dakar, Xavier will be with me.

[Mintexmemory]

In the facebook page linked a few posts above they say it: Just back from Dakar, Xavier will be with me.

Let's hope that Xav doesn't make a notes error this year!

So does Seb O take the Loeb challenge or settle for 2nd again. I suspect we'll see a real battle; as a twice WDC Ogier is in an entirely different place to that of 2 years ago.
Wish I was going again this year but I'm having 2 summer trips. Sardinia, definitely, and probably Germany

[WUff1]

Kubica does only Monte with A-Style, not Jänner.

[dimviii]

Let's hope that Xav doesn't make a notes error this year!

So does Seb O take the Loeb challenge or settle for 2nd again. I suspect we'll see a real battle; as a twice WDC Ogier is in an entirely different place to that of 2 years ago.
Wish I was going again this year but I'm having 2 summer trips. Sardinia, definitely, and probably Germany

omg!! you predict a 2 year retired, 42 years old driver, fast as the current champion?

[tommeke_B]

Chardonnet with PH Sport DS3 wrc in monte. :)

[jacko]

Marc Duez also in the entry-list with the Porsche 996 GT3

[tommeke_B]

Eric Camilli confirmed for Monte with Fiesta R5!!

[nafpaktos]

I wish him to do the whole wrc2.he deserves it.

[EstWRC]

With Chardonnet we should have 16 WRC cars in start for Monte!

[tommeke_B]

I wish him to do the whole wrc2.he deserves it.

He entered WRC2, and is driving with the same team that runs Maurin's car. If the performance is good I think there's a good chance to see him compete all events Maurin is doing in WRC2. :)

[Roy]

With Chardonnet we should have 16 WRC cars in start for Monte!

What do we have for WRCars? Others maybe?

3 x VW: Ogier, Latvala, Mikkelsen
3 x Citroen/DS: Meeke, Loeb, Ostberg
1 x PH-sport Citroen: Chardonnet
3 x Ford M-sport: Evans, Tänak, Bouffier
4 x other Ford: Kubica, Prokop, Bertelli, Raoux
2 x Hyundai: Neuville and Sordo

[tommeke_B]

You forgot Felice Ré (private DS3 WRC). ;)

[jbmarcus21]

Google Earth Map Rallye Wrc Monte-Carlo 2015 is online =>>> http://bit.ly/1p7NACj

[Mintexmemory]

omg!! you predict a 2 year retired, 42 years old driver, fast as the current champion?

that actually is inaccurate - last WRC competition was October 2013 so 15 months 'retired'; since when of course he hasn't been anywhere near the steering wheel of a DS3, yeah right!
So yes on a rally that you could say he's a specialist I expect the multi world champion to shine - and Loeb to finish second

[jbmarcus21]

last news.. 18Wrc will start at Monte http://on.fb.me/1t619b7

[dimviii]

Traxx - WR is Free ‏@Traxx_WiF 5 λεπτάΠριν από 5 λεπτά
Henning Solberg sur la liste du Monté-Carlo avec une Fiesta WRC

[RICARDO75]

Julien Maurin - Ford Fiesta RRC
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Julien-Maurin/334767606580434

[litifeta]

Any of you Euro guys have any idea of what the weather is likely to be like for MC? Starting on my birthday again. Hot as hell here in Oz.

[N.O.T]

Any of you Euro guys have any idea of what the weather is likely to be like for MC? Starting on my birthday again. Hot as hell here in Oz.

cold.

[EightGear]

Quite snowy I believe. At least there is snow at some tests.

[SubaruNorway]

Snow on MC makes it the most boring rally with the wide "normal" studded tires these days, it's a safety issue as well.

With tires like this i would actually consider going to MC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh4lxd896jY

[stefanvv]

Yeah, with lot of snow, Monte will be slow and probably there will be lot of crashes.

EDIT: I know long studs are forbidden for a reason, but I'm still wondering why not narrower tyres are used (winter with or without studs)

[Mirek]

Snow on MC makes it the most boring rally with the wide "normal" studded tires these days, it's a safety issue as well.

With tires like this i would actually consider going to MC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh4lxd896jY

I have been four times to RMC (2009-2012) and I totally don't agree with You. Whenever there was snow it was much more fun to watch than pure asphalt. The snow or ice is boring if it's only few patches and they drive purely asphalt tyres but otherwise it's great fun. It's something completely different to Scandinavian winter rallies but that's why it's unique and fun for me. That's also why I enjoyed 2010 IRC edition the most and 2012 WRC edition the least. Without snow it's just another asphalt event. Also with the snow it's much more fun for spectators. You can build snowmen, fight with snowballs etc. When it's just cold or rain You just wait for hours...

[tommeke_B]

I agree with SubaruNorway on this one.

I went this year, seen only one proper snow-stage. 2 stages with conditions in between with some slush/snow. I enjoyed the "normal tarmac" conditions much more than snow. On Turini we were at a place with view of 4 corners, full snow and snow tyres. It was quite boring to watch IMO, the speed was too low to enjoy it, all driver took it quite cautious. Maybe it would be better if there is snow during the complete event, then they can't play it safe for the snowy stages like it was this year.

[PLuto]

I agree with SubaruNorway on this one.

I went this year, seen only one proper snow-stage. 2 stages with conditions in between with some slush/snow. I enjoyed the "normal tarmac" conditions much more than snow. On Turini we were at a place with view of 4 corners, full snow and snow tyres. It was quite boring to watch IMO, the speed was too low to enjoy it, all driver took it quite cautious. Maybe it would be better if there is snow during the complete event, then they can't play it safe for the snowy stages like it was this year.

I think the biggest problem was with the tyre limit. As they were very limited number of studded tyres, they must drive very safely to survive on the road.

[AndyRAC]

I have been four times to RMC (2009-2012) and I totally don't agree with You. Whenever there was snow it was much more fun to watch than pure asphalt. The snow or ice is boring if it's only few patches and they drive purely asphalt tyres but otherwise it's great fun. It's something completely different to Scandinavian winter rallies but that's why it's unique and fun for me. That's also why I enjoyed 2010 IRC edition the most and 2012 WRC edition the least. Without snow it's just another asphalt event. Also with the snow it's much more fun for spectators. You can build snowmen, fight with snowballs etc. When it's just cold or rain You just wait for hours...

I'd say the IRC Monte versions were the best; a much more level playing field. 2010 was what I'd call a 'proper' Monte, with plenty of snow, whereas 2011 was mainly dry, apart from the mad afternoon when it snowed, and turned eveything upside down.

[SubaruNorway]

Wasn't Col De Turini cancelled on the 2nd run 3 years ago because the conditions were to dangerous when it started to rain on the snow?
Certanly wouldn't have happened with narrow short studded tires.

I even find the wide Sweden tires boring to watch when theres a lot of snow on the road, bring back the good old days!
Doubt Henning would dare going this hard if he didn't know he would have grip in the loose ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtOrkw6MgHk
(Østberg and Mikko on wide tires was much neater here)

[Mirek]

It was not canceled due to the conditions but because of blocked roads. The stage was blocked by Melichárek who got stuck in the snow with gearbox problems and the road leading to the start was blocked by spectators. That's the problem of the classic stages in Alpe Maritimes. There are so few roads that in some points everybody must use same ones.

Anyway in the IRC it was possible to cut the wide tyres. In such conditions they cut them so extensively that they removed the middle line of rubber blocks completely and the side blocks were cut away every second one. It worked in these conditions.

[Ounin]

According some rumours say that Jipocar will enter 3 cars (Melicharek & Prokop & tba), D-Max 2 cars DS3 R5 ( Ré & Protasov?). Also Henning is confirmed in Fiesta WRC.

[EstWRC]

Well, the list will be published tomorrow, then we will know the truth

[Bartek]

According some rumours say that Jipocar will enter 3 cars (Melicharek & Prokop & tba), D-Max 2 cars DS3 R5 ( Ré & Protasov?). Also Henning is confirmed in Fiesta WRC.

I think D-Max will be in Monte with one WRC and one R5

[Simmi]

Nice testing onboard from Romain Dumas in the Porsche to get you in the Monte mood - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAFFv7KpYsI&feature=youtu.be

[Ucci]

Nice testing onboard from Romain Dumas in the Porsche to get you in the Monte mood - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAFFv7KpYsI&feature=youtu.be

IMHO this looks quite boring.....it there will be a lot of stages covered with snow & ice, this will be disaster for 911 drivers....

[CWJ]

Start list

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/fileadmin/pdf/Monte2015Startliste.pdf

[Mirek]

Awesome list!

[Simmi]

Sometimes the Monte feels a bit thin on entries but that is NOT the case this year. Really wish I was going.

[tommeke_B]

Great list indeed! Nice to see some privateer DS3 WRC's, any more news about Protasov's program?

[EstWRC]

Nice! 119 entries total and 18 cars in WRC category!

[stefanvv]

Nice testing onboard from Romain Dumas in the Porsche to get you in the Monte mood - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAFFv7KpYsI&feature=youtu.be

It is nice onboard indeed. We're fully aware this is not the Porsche playground with lot of snow & ice, but Dumas is driving it nicely, I expect no less from Delecour. In fact as we saw last year at Monte even WRC cars could struggle in these conditions.

[Mirek]

Nice! 119 entries total and 18 cars in WRC category!

it's less than 100 entries. numbers in WRC categories are not all used. It's great anyway.

[EightGear]

So far no sign of Toyota/Abbring. Great list though!

[tommeke_B]

So far no sign of Toyota/Abbring. Great list though!

What did you expect?

[EightGear]

What did you expect?
Nothing, just a tiny bit of hope. :)

[PLuto]

So far no sign of Toyota/Abbring. Great list though!

There were absolutely no plans with start of Abbring on Monte...

[A FONDO]

IMHO this looks quite boring.....it there will be a lot of stages covered with snow & ice, this will be disaster for 911 drivers....

It's definitely not boring for the man behind the wheel

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It's definitely not boring for the man behind the wheel

Gonna need some BIG cahones to be quick in a Porsche here... :eek:

[jbmarcus21]

#WRC Full program Rallye Wrc Monte-Carlo 2015 : Timetable, Entrylist, Google Earth Map, Live Results
http://planetemarcus.com/saison-wrc/wrc-rallye-monte-carlo-2015/

[Aquagen]

Nice to see some privateer DS3 WRC's, any more news about Protasov's program?

It will be. As I know WRC and WRC2 mixed.

[Ounin]

From all the fuss that had been created by the Toyota rumours and its drivers, clearly Camilli is the one that actually has a drive in the Monte, I think it will be a very interesting weekend to see how he gets on in the EMAP-YACCO team in a R5 car and how he will cope with Maurin, who will be benchmarked for Camilli's times. Well done. Unfortunately it's all speculation.
Now let's see what they will do with Abbring, or let's see what Toyotas OFFICIAL PLANS ARE... May clearness come very very soon.

[Ucci]

Start list

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/fileadmin/pdf/Monte2015Startliste.pdf

I thought Felice Re will drive WRC (changed to WRC2), but anyway great to see both - father & son (WRC3) on MC start.

[RS]

Entry list looks nothing out of the ordinary apart from Loeb, but it should be a good rally nonetheless.

[N.O.T]

Very nice entry with many good drivers in almost every class which is nice compared to what we get in the lesser classes through the year.

[Mirek]

Entry list looks nothing out of the ordinary apart from Loeb, but it should be a good rally nonetheless.

Nothing out of ordinary? Nearly 100 crews, 18 WRC from 4 competitive manufacturers, 21 S2000/R5, 3 GT, 27 R3, plenty of great drivers in all classes. What do You need to be satisfied?

[N.O.T]

plenty of great drivers in all classes.

the only thing that matters is this...

all the other numbers mean nothing... maybe to some nobody useless hairpin spectators who care more about the machinery rather than the talent behind it...

[Mirek]

I don't agree with You. Of course the quality of the drivers is the most important but it's still more fun to watch guys in some cars than the same guys in another cars. Of course when You only follow results it doesn't matter but if you spectate live it does. Some cars just appear nicer, louder, more rough. They just look faster even though sometimes they are not. For example Clio R3T is a dull car which is really boring to watch. Gr.N 4WD cars are very boring on Monte stages too. Fiesta R5 isn't much better as well.

[irish_tiger]

I have been four times to RMC (2009-2012) and I totally don't agree with You. Whenever there was snow it was much more fun to watch than pure asphalt. The snow or ice is boring if it's only few patches and they drive purely asphalt tyres but otherwise it's great fun. It's something completely different to Scandinavian winter rallies but that's why it's unique and fun for me. That's also why I enjoyed 2010 IRC edition the most and 2012 WRC edition the least. Without snow it's just another asphalt event. Also with the snow it's much more fun for spectators. You can build snowmen, fight with snowballs etc. When it's just cold or rain You just wait for hours...

Are you going to the 2015 Rally ?

[Mirek]

No, I have promised to go skiing with some friends in the same time.

[N.O.T]

I don't agree with You. Of course the quality of the drivers is the most important but it's still more fun to watch guys in some cars than the same guys in another cars. Of course when You only follow results it doesn't matter but if you spectate live it does. Some cars just appear nicer, louder, more rough. They just look faster even though sometimes they are not. For example Clio R3T is a dull car which is really boring to watch. Gr.N 4WD cars are very boring on Monte stages too. Fiesta R5 isn't much better as well.

every time i see a tourist in a proper car something inside me dies a horrible death... a useless tourist is a sad spectacle in a proper car something like a masterless dog run over by a tractor...

when it comes to village folk events then the type of cars matters but when it comes to the WRC the tourists should drive something more appropriate to their lives.

[PLuto]

From all the fuss that had been created by the Toyota rumours and its drivers, clearly Camilli is the one that actually has a drive in the Monte, I think it will be a very interesting weekend to see how he gets on in the EMAP-YACCO team in a R5 car and how he will cope with Maurin, who will be benchmarked for Camilli's times. Well done. Unfortunately it's all speculation.
Now let's see what they will do with Abbring, or let's see what Toyotas OFFICIAL PLANS ARE... May clearness come very very soon.

I think that Camilli's start on Monte has nothing to do with Toyota, he was planning to do Monte in R5/S2000 few weeks before this rumours started...

[Ounin]

I said it was all speculation, that's why silly season is called 'silly season' ;)
He already must have had a budget few weeks ago...

[MJW]

every time i see a tourist in a proper car something inside me dies a horrible death... a useless tourist is a sad spectacle in a proper car something like a masterless dog run over by a tractor...

when it comes to village folk events then the type of cars matters but when it comes to the WRC the tourists should drive something more appropriate to their lives.
you mean yachts?

[Mirek]

every time i see a tourist in a proper car something inside me dies a horrible death... a useless tourist is a sad spectacle in a proper car something like a masterless dog run over by a tractor...

when it comes to village folk events then the type of cars matters but when it comes to the WRC the tourists should drive something more appropriate to their lives.

I didn't say anything about tourists.

[EstWRC]

Maurin's livery https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/552381820764160002

[pantealex]

Maurin's livery https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/552381820764160002

It´s WRC, he entered with R5. Photoshop ;)

[EstWRC]

yeah but the livery is the same, and the link again because the previous one isnt working anymore.

https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/552387929277210624

[dupanton]

I read he entered with his RRC because his R5 i taken by Camilli? But on the entry list it says R5...

[EightGear]

I read he entered with his RRC because his R5 i taken by Camilli? But on the entry list it says R5...
Yes, it's RRC.

[stefanvv]

SS02 Currently:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTSddO1U6M8

[dimviii]

Prokops livery for Monte
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B60cOHuCUAAB56s.jpg

[makinen_fan]

Some more:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B60c8tuCMAAjPwg.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B60c8pVCQAEesDI.jpg

[thuGG]

Cool.

[EstWRC]

He has more sponsors than M-sport itself has, lol

[hari]

Gallery - Testing for Rallye Monte Carlo 2015 - Henk Lategan / Armin Kremer, BRR Skoda Fabia S2000:
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_test_090115_brr_armin_kremer_henk_lat egan_vor_rallye_monte_carlo_2015.html

http://www.ir7.at/t15.jpg

[dimviii]

Bouffier
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/p843x403/10896440_756339184451599_6569739155591384711_o.jpg

[Maui J.]

Bouffier
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/p843x403/10896440_756339184451599_6569739155591384711_o.jpg

Reminds me of Delecour's Ford Focus at Rally NZ 2001...remembering the victims of 9/11.

Je Suis Charlie.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Is this still the same sponsor from the Dog Meat/Food store?

I'm hungry!

[miniwintz]

Yes it is still a sponsor from a brand of chicken

[MikeD]

So Kubica & Prokop are using Pirelli tyres this year. Any others we know of? (Henning Solberg again this year?)

[jd_89]

If I remember correctly - also Bertelli will be using Pirelli.

[Ucci]

[QUOTE=EstWRC;1032387]He has more sponsors than M-sport itself has, lol[/QUOT

But still with the old front apron......

[RS]

Any live tv on Monte this year apart from power stage?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Any live tv on Monte this year apart from power stage?


SS1, SS13 & SS15 are showing as Live on WRC+, so should be on BT Sport...

https://plus.wrc.com/live-stages/live/

[KiwiWRCfan]

SS1, SS13 & SS15 are showing as Live on WRC+, so should be on BT Sport...

https://plus.wrc.com/live-stages/live/

SS1 being live will be prime time viewing in UK & Western Europe as it will be 7pm or 8pm in the evening. Great way to start the new WRC season

[makinen_fan]

Did they confirm that wrc will it be on BT Sport again this year?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Did they confirm that wrc will it be on BT Sport again this year?

Haven't see any confirmation yet, but they did a feature on cricketer Graeme Swann entering Wales Rally GB in November and sponsored his car with the logo 'WRC on BT Sport'. Hopefully this indicates they are intending to carrying on with their coverage in 2015...

http://c.smimg.net/14/45/graeme-swann_2.jpg

http://b.smimg.net/14/45/640x480/graeme-swann_1.jpg

[makinen_fan]

SS1 live is in their program on the 22nd
http://www.locatetv.com/uk/listings/bt-sport-1#22-Jan-2015

[AndyRAC]

So that means we in the UK can't get WRC+.......

[Andre Oliveira]

Here at Portugal, Sport tv broadcast live and we have WRC+.

[Huufke]

Due to legal obligations we are not allowed to offer WRC+ in the following countries: UK, Ireland, France, Sweden, Norway, Denmark.
- https://plus.wrc.com/about/info/

[GigiGalliNo1]

As it will push away viewers from the TV screens, meaning people won't se the adverts companies are paying the networks and viewers to see... makes sense...

[AL14]

As it will push away viewers from the TV screens, meaning people won't se the adverts companies are paying the networks and viewers to see... makes sense...

There is no difference between seeing adverts through a computer'screen or a TV. It makes sense because broadcasts pay them more to have the exclusive rights.

[rallyfiend]

There is no difference between seeing adverts through a computer'screen or a TV. It makes sense because broadcasts pay them more to have the exclusive rights.

Yes there is. Online ads do not contribute to the broadcaster bottom line. They go to whoever is hosting the online stream

Broadcasters like BT Sport work to prevent things like WRC+ because why would you subscribe to BT Sport for your WRC fix if you can just get WRC+ at a far cheaper price?

[Rallyper]

Guys, there´s a topic for WRC+ in this forum.

[AL14]

Yes there is. Online ads do not contribute to the broadcaster bottom line. They go to whoever is hosting the online stream

Broadcasters like BT Sport work to prevent things like WRC+ because why would you subscribe to BT Sport for your WRC fix if you can just get WRC+ at a far cheaper price?

Yes, you're right, I misunderstood your previous sentence, I thought you were referring to advertising in the cars and not TVs advertising. But yes, we have a thread for wrc+ in this forum, sorry for the Off Topic :)

[Bruce D]

Gallery - Testing for Rallye Monte Carlo 2015 - Henk Lategan / Armin Kremer, BRR Skoda Fabia S2000:
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_test_090115_brr_armin_kremer_henk_lat egan_vor_rallye_monte_carlo_2015.html

http://www.ir7.at/t15.jpg

Thanks for the link, great pics.

[EstWRC]

Protasov's livery https://twitter.com/AbstraxiDesign/status/554655525187903488

[KKS]

SS1, SS13 & SS15 are showing as Live on WRC+, so should be on BT Sport...

https://plus.wrc.com/live-stages/live/

And maybe some french TV too have live such as it was year ago. But I haven't info about this year.

[dimviii]

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[GigiGalliNo1]

#20 for Monte?

[makinen_fan]

Yes according to this.
http://acm.mc/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/RAMC-2015-List-of-entries-in-seeded-order.pdf

Will they start in the order of the entry list, or according to seeding number?

[AdvEvo]

Not manny gr N in the list on Monaco. This class is almost gone i guess. It s a pity!

[N.O.T]

Not manny gr N in the list on Monaco. This class is almost gone i guess. It s a pity!

its not a pity... these cars make my eyes bleed on tarmac.

[pantealex]

Not manny gr N in the list on Monaco. This class is almost gone i guess. It s a pity!

No. it´s very good that those go away, way too old models! (except current WRX STI sedan (2014-))

btw.I remember that rule say that all those are called R4 nowadays

[dupanton]

Yes according to this.
http://acm.mc/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/RAMC-2015-List-of-entries-in-seeded-order.pdf

Will they start in the order of the entry list, or according to seeding number?

Serderidis is probably going to be caught by Maurin, Vallerio by Camilli...
Any idea why Raoux is the only WRC who has to start behind all priority drivers?

And a shame Gamba is seeded that far...

[AdvEvo]

No. it´s very good that those go away, way too old models! (except current WRX STI sedan (2014-))

btw.I remember that rule say that all those are called R4 nowadays


Wil there be a new 2015 STi Gr N / R4 car?

[rallyfiend]

Yes according to this.
http://acm.mc/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/RAMC-2015-List-of-entries-in-seeded-order.pdf

Will they start in the order of the entry list, or according to seeding number?

The registered WRC guys will start in order of 2014 Championship points.

So Loeb will be in 17th....

[EstWRC]

thanks for the answer, so the starting order should be like that then ?

1.Ogier
2.Latvala
3.Mikkelsen
4.Ostberg
5.Neuville
6.Meeke
7.Evans
8.Prokop
9.Sordo
10.Solberg
11.Bouffier
12.Tänak
13.Kubica
14.Bertelli
15.Protasov
16.Loeb
17.Chardonnet
18.Raoux

[rallyfiend]

thanks for the answer, so the starting order should be like that then ?

1.Ogier
2.Latvala
3.Mikkelsen
4.Ostberg
5.Neuville
6.Meeke
7.Evans
8.Prokop
9.Sordo
10.Solberg
11.Bouffier
12.Tänak
13.Kubica
14.Bertelli
15.Protasov
16.Chardonnet
17.Loeb
18.Raoux

My mistake.

Loeb will be 16th. Charnonnet did not score any points in 2014.

[EstWRC]

no problemo, edited it :)

[N.O.T]

If the roads have ice Loeb can really create a good enough margin on day 1.

[makinen_fan]

And Capito will start moaning again about the starting positions...

[hari]

If the roads have ice Loeb can really create a good enough margin on day 1.

But 2015 WRC regulations also state: "For the first round of the Championship, the start order shall be that of the final classification of the previous year. The FIA shall decide the order of drivers who were not classified in the previous year. "

So we have to wait and see where they put him.

Day 2 Starting order will be the same as Day 1, only the retired and restarting Crews will start first.
Day 3 will be first 15 crews reversed.

So if Loeb really starts as 16th in Day 1, he probably has a perfect position also on the following days if there are winter conditions.

[Mirek]

That depends on the conditions. If there is no now/ice but rain/mud he will be in a reasonable disadvantage. It may even be a big advantage on first run and a big disadvantage on second run of same stages. Also it depends a lot on the character of particular stages. There is very little mud on Col de Turini and alike but on other stages it may be muddy as hell. Sudden change of weather is also nothing special in Monte. Simply said I don't think that You can play some tactics in Monte with starting positions.

[dimviii]

Hyundai generator? for the hospital at Monte.lol.
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2015/post-969-0-57464000-1421332770.jpg

[Franky]

Hyundai generator? for the hospital at Monte.lol.
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2015/post-969-0-57464000-1421332770.jpg

That's why they have such a huge budget

[AdvEvo]

They can better spend money on the cars at Hyundai!

[Dug83]

Hyundai preview, switch to Alpinestars?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YjY3xxupSw

[EightGear]

Hyundai preview, switch to Alpinestars?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YjY3xxupSw


Don't know..

By the way, Neuville said 'he hasn't been succesfull in the past' at Monte. He's quite right: he either retired on the first (2011 & 2014) or the 4th stage (2012 & 2013)!

[dimviii]

from Latvalas twitter

Jari-Matti Latvala ‏@JariMattiWRC 5 ώρεςΠριν από 5 ώρες
Here is the back of my helmet! #EyeOfTheTiger #ReadyFor2015

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7ditqMIAAAzCpo.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7dTssHCMAAGPYY.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport MC preview with Evans and Tanak interviews:

http://www.m-sport.co.uk/m-sport-news/fiesta-rs-wrc/m-sport-look-to-master-the-monte.html

Citroen-Sport MC preview & 4 interviews:

http://www.citroenracing.com/en/2015/news/wrc-news/63610/sebastien-loeb-kicks-off-2015-season-rallye-monte-carlo/

[dimviii]

Henning with new livery. Like it!
https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1240185_837404516320983_1834562215314738144_n.jpg? oh=6cd40519d0ca012612a8c6b138da9623&oe=552D0BDD

[Eli]

henning with new livery. Like it!
https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1240185_837404516320983_1834562215314738144_n.jpg? oh=6cd40519d0ca012612a8c6b138da9623&oe=552d0bdd
nice!!

[RICARDO75]

Henning with new livery. Like it!
https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1240185_837404516320983_1834562215314738144_n.jpg? oh=6cd40519d0ca012612a8c6b138da9623&oe=552D0BDD

I'm not sure about that dimvii. This livery was study made from rallymadmedia in last November for Wales Rally GB

[dimviii]

lets wait and see mate.I just found it at Monte topic at a French forum.

[rallyfiend]

Usually Henning pays so late for the car that two things happen:

- he has to use the test car
- the stickering on the car is at best 'minimal' regardless of what he plans...

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Henning+Solberg+FIA+World+Rally+Championship+JIxc-3eV2pSl.jpg

[RICARDO75]

lets wait and see mate.I just found it at Monte topic at a French forum.

From Rallymadmedia facebook on December 4:
"Thank you so much everybody for liking the page, I have a special treat as promised... My fantasy livery for Henning Solberg that went viral before Rally GB, for you to use in RBR!"

https://www.facebook.com/rallymadmedia

Has been running over the internet in the last two days but it may be a rumor through a misunderstanding. If by chance, Henning Solberg decide to use this livery, would be tasteful because, personally, I like a lot.

[AdvEvo]

That guy Evans must have some sort of parfum on his ass or a lot of money.

The guy has no charisma at all and is invisible in almost every rally! Why him and not bouffier for a full year?

[N.O.T]

That guy Evans must have some sort of parfum on his ass or a lot of money.

The guy has no charisma at all and is invisible in almost every rally! Why him and not bouffier for a full year?

because Buffier is even worse and far older.

[EstWRC]

Even if im not a huge of Evans too but really, Bouffier for a full year? He would be also invisible in almost every rally except Monte and maybe other tarmac rounds.

[[WRCRR]]

Even if im not a huge of Evans too but really, Bouffier for a full year? He would be also invisible in almost every rally except Monte and maybe other tarmac rounds.

Also, Bouffier didn't exactly set the world on fire with the Hyundai outings last year...otherwise he would be still in the team this year. Actually, in Germany Evans was faster than Bouffier during the whole event...so =)

[EightGear]

That guy Evans must have some sort of parfum on his ass or a lot of money.

The guy has no charisma at all and is invisible in almost every rally! Why him and not bouffier for a full year?

I'd say he did quite allright last year, especially on tarmac he is quite good already.

Bouffier for a full season would be some kind of joke, he's the one who was invisible on his Hyundai outings in Germany (except for his 2 crashes) and France.

[Mad cat jnr]

Saw some pictures last night from guys at M-Sport of a lot of snow falling on the test in 30 minutes.

As for Evans, you have to remember that last year was his first year in a WRC so he can't of been expected to set the world alight...I'm sure messers Loeb and Ogier had a steady first few seasons when they started!!

[N.O.T]

I'm sure messers Loeb and Ogier had a steady first few seasons when they started!!

don't be so sure when you do not know a lot.

[focus206]

That guy Evans must have some sort of parfum on his ass or a lot of money.

The guy has no charisma at all and is invisible in almost every rally! Why him and not bouffier for a full year?

you complain that Kubica doesn't have M-Sport specs for his car and then you say that about Evans, who outperformed Kubica in almost every rally last year?

[stefanvv]

That guy Evans must have some sort of parfum on his ass or a lot of money.

The guy has no charisma at all and is invisible in almost every rally! Why him and not bouffier for a full year?

Because he is the new project of Malcolm Wilson. I doubt he brings lot of money and don't agree that hasn't charisma at all. Actually he makes remarkable comments:) BTW he is much better on asphalt, which is Bouffier's speciality, if we can call it that way.

[bluuford]

Forecast (very first ang general).

General weather picture tells that there is some snow already and some more is expected (Monday night and Wednesday night). During the rally, there should not be much additional snowfall (exept shakedown) but I guess that all the stages until Sunday will be full of snow and ice (at least 90% of their distance) because the temperature does not rise above zero much. Powerstage is so low and so close to the sea that i do not expect any snow there, Turini stage should be also half without snow and maybe less than half snow covered. So, be prepared, not much wind, but will be quite normal that there is -10 degrees in the morning :-)

Teams were testing in very wet snow, I think they should have been consentraing more on ice and powder kind of snow.


I will tell more when the time is closer

[tommeke_B]

Design for Chardonnet

http://www.autonews-magazine.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/image/2015_01/Chardonnet_MC.jpg

[Mad cat jnr]

don't be so sure when you do not know a lot.

Hahahaha your funny! I probably know and forgot more about this sport than you will ever know!!

I don't just work for M-Sport, follow the sport with a real passion and desire and give up nearly 40 weekends a year to compete/officiate on events for a reason!!! Now go hide back under your little rock and play with your dolls!

[Mad cat jnr]

Because he is the new project of Malcolm Wilson. I doubt he brings lot of money and don't agree that hasn't charisma at all. Actually he makes remarkable comments:) BTW he is much better on asphalt, which is Bouffier's speciality, if we can call it that way.

Elfyn has grown as a person in the past year, really come out of his shell and realised his potential. He is a very humble and down to earth lad who knows he can't just expect everything to be given to him on a plate. He spends a lot of time at M-Sport with his engineers.

[peter_85]

Elfyn is very potental young guy. By the way, if his father won't bring a lot of money, someone could say that he's invisible. :D

That's why I don't understand how people could compare Evans with Bouffier. Bouffier has lack of experience in a WRC events. He made only 6 rounds in a 4WD car. Someone said that Bouffier is older, but who cares? Some people in the past were saying something similar about Marcus Gronholm at begining of 1999.

[N.O.T]

Hahahaha your funny! I probably know and forgot more about this sport than you will ever know!!

I don't just work for M-Sport, follow the sport with a real passion and desire and give up nearly 40 weekends a year to compete/officiate on events for a reason!!! Now go hide back under your little rock and play with your dolls!

then act like you know all this stuff and not like some nobody old man with no accomplishments in life...

both Loeb and Ogier did take the sport by a storm really early... you can always advise the nobodys resource webpage wikipedia to confrim.

[WUff1]

Bouffier in WRC would have been good in 2013, since then he never got his speed back to this level

[Roy]

Bouffier in WRC would have been good in 2013, since then he never got his speed back to this level

We have didn't see the real potential of Bouffier in 2014. He drive in the Hyundai in the testing modus. Maybe he get some more miles by M-spot, so we see more of him en can better judge him.

[Mad cat jnr]

then act like you know all this stuff and not like some nobody old man with no accomplishments in life...

both Loeb and Ogier did take the sport by a storm really early... you can always advise the nobodys resource webpage wikipedia to confrim.

So in their first seasons these 2 were both setting the world alight? Yes they both have dominated since but that is mainly due to the money ploughed into them by FFSA to help their developments!

[rallyfun]

you complain that Kubica doesn't have M-Sport specs for his car and then you say that about Evans, who outperformed Kubica in almost every rally last year? What WRC did you follow last year?

[tommeke_B]

So in their first seasons these 2 were both setting the world alight? Yes they both have dominated since but that is mainly due to the money ploughed into them by FFSA to help their developments!
Oh, and there's no money behind Elfyn Evans? ;) All respect for Evans, he's a good and very consistent driver. But this year he will have to show more improvement if he wants to earn his place in WRC. Nobody is waiting for a second 5-year plan...

[AL14]

If we compare Evans first outings with the end of season we can see a huge improvement, he showed discipline and consistency. Nobody in his first full year is ready to win rallies or such, he's young and hard-worker and deserve a full year in a manufacturer car (and pls do not compare people with Loeb, no one in the world and in the future will do what he did in his career).

Bouffier may not had too much chances to show his skills but the few he had he didn't show any potential, second place in monte carlo last year was due mainly to a right tyre chioce on Day1 but you are not a great driver if you know how to chose tyres.

[N.O.T]

So in their first seasons these 2 were both setting the world alight? Yes they both have dominated since but that is mainly due to the money ploughed into them by FFSA to help their developments!

these were exactly your words : "As for Evans, you have to remember that last year was his first year in a WRC so he can't of been expected to set the world alight...I'm sure messers Loeb and Ogier had a steady first few seasons when they started!!"

and i replied based on those... and the answer is YES THEY DID SET THE WRC ALIGHT AND THEY DID NOT HAVE JUST A FEW STEADY SEASONS...

so if you are all that you claim to be get your facts straight...

[AdvEvo]

I rather had Kubica in my team then Evans. If the wrc would be full of evans like persons I never watch a rally again.

I am glad loeb is driving. I would like to see petter again. Maybe those guys are above 40 but those guys have charisma. Kubica gives the viewers spectacle. Evans is a guy which will not say a word wrong because he is just a part of Wilson msport factory. Same as almost every f1 driver with media training nothing is coming from there own mouth anymore.

You have drivers to make a team around them. And you have boring drivers who are just an extension of a gearlever from a car.

[N.O.T]

If we compare Evans first outings with the end of season we can see a huge improvement, he showed discipline and consistency. Nobody in his first full year is ready to win rallies or such, he's young and hard-worker and deserve a full year in a manufacturer car (and pls do not compare people with Loeb, no one in the world and in the future will do what he did in his career).

Bouffier may not had too much chances to show his skills but the few he had he didn't show any potential, second place in monte carlo last year was due mainly to a right tyre chioce on Day1 but you are not a great driver if you know how to chose tyres.

Ogier also was close winning on his first season and won on his second... Evans showed ecouraging pace on tarmac but nothing more... lets hope he improves this year.

[N.O.T]

If the wrc would be full of evans like persons I never watch a rally again.


lets hope we get more evans like persons then...

[focus206]

What WRC did you follow last year?

The one in which Kubica crashed in almost every rally because he was keeping a pace that wasn't his. And in many of them he was behind Evans already before crashing.

[AL14]

Ogier also was close winning on his first season and won on his second... Evans showed ecouraging pace on tarmac but nothing more... lets hope he improves this year.

You're right but I was referring about Evans and Bouffier, not Evans and Ogier. Ogier is the best driver in the world at the moment, a natural talent, of course it's almost impossible for everyone to reach such level but Evans deserves his place in M-Sport imo.
Regarding this year the car will be a problem for him, all the others manufacturers made more evoluntions to their cars and have more experienced guys driving them.

[N.O.T]

Evans pays and does not deserve anything... he pays for this opportunity and he better do something with it otherwise he can quickly become the laughing stock Wilson was.

[danon]

Stop whining, start wanking re malaka!

[AL14]

I rather had Kubica in my team then Evans. If the wrc would be full of evans like persons I never watch a rally again.

I am glad loeb is driving. I would like to see petter again. Maybe those guys are above 40 but those guys have charisma. Kubica gives the viewers spectacle. Evans is a guy which will not say a word wrong because he is just a part of Wilson msport factory. Same as almost every f1 driver with media training nothing is coming from there own mouth anymore.

You have drivers to make a team around them. And you have boring drivers who are just an extension of a gearlever from a car.

I disagree, I appreciate humility if you are a 26yr driver in your first full season and you concentrate on learning rather than teaching.

[N.O.T]

Stop whining, start wanking re malaka!

why ?

[AL14]

Evans pays and does not deserve anything... he pays for this opportunity and he better do something with it otherwise he can quickly become the laughing stock Wilson was.

Does he pay or not? Some people say he does, some not. It's a mistery (and I don't know why we are all caring too much about it)

[AdvEvo]

The learning process should not be done in wrc car! You must be ready and up there with the best.

The price of a wrc is 600.000 euro that s no learning tool anymore!

Evans must be paying otherwise they smoke weed at Msport:)

[N.O.T]

The learning process should not be done in wrc car! You must be ready and up there with the best.

The price of a wrc is 600.000 euro that s no learning tool anymore!



Latvala and many others disagree with you. and the price is far less than 600k

[dimviii]

Guys please can you stop this about Evans and Bouffier etc?

lets talk about Loeb/Ogier it will have much more fun.

What do you predict from him? What position will be a good result? what position will be a bad result?
How slower(or faster as i saw from pickems) do yoy predict he will be?

First answer i want from NOT.

[AL14]

The learning process should not be done in wrc car! You must be ready and up there with the best.

The price of a wrc is 600.000 euro that s no learning tool anymore!

Evans must be paying otherwise they smoke weed at Msport:)
And who sould be there instead of him?

[stefanvv]

Guys please can you stop this about Evans and Bouffier etc?

lets talk about Loeb/Ogier it will have much more fun.

We already established Evans is better, but for Loeb vs Ogier I'm not sure:D here we go....

[AdvEvo]

Kubica with a 100% factory car! He brings also some lotus money so Wilson can keep smoking his big sigars behind his desk.

[N.O.T]

And who sould be there instead of him?

urmo aava

[stefanvv]

urmo aava

Lukyanuk actually;)

[N.O.T]

Lukyanuk actually;)

no

[stefanvv]

no

oh, yes

[N.O.T]

oh, yes

No. now go to bed its late and you are tired, you do not think clearly when you are tired.

[stefanvv]

No. now go to bed its late and you are tired, you do not think clearly when you are tired.

Ok, I will:D, in the morning I will still think the same though, but it is pointless anyway. btw who is "urmo aava"?

[N.O.T]

btw who is "urmo aava"?

you do not need to know everything... too much info on small minds causes overload.

[stefanvv]

you do not need to know everything... too much info on small minds causes overload.

Yes, You're right actually:D

[Roy]

Ok, I will:D, in the morning I will still think the same though, but it is pointless anyway. btw who is "urmo aava"?

Urmo Aava is a well known rally driver (few years ago)
http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=71

Now he is is Event Director of rally Estonia (ERC)
http://www.fiaerc.com/news/detail/id/4975

[Barreis]

Well, this new generations... :D

[stefanvv]

Urmo Aava is a well known rally driver (few years ago)
http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=71

Now he is is Event Director of rally Estonia (ERC)
http://www.fiaerc.com/news/detail/id/4975

Thank You, I saw the profile in ewrc, didn't realized he is the main person behind Rally Estonia. But what I asked was not "who is Urmo Aava", but "who is urmo aava", I'm sure great mind can handle it.... somehow.....

[dimviii]

http://staticclub.caradisiac.com/1/sport-auto/divers/photo/hd/590542590/5149249711/divers-10923286_402953879880430_5743615915725598159_n-big.jpg
http://staticclub.caradisiac.com/1/sport-auto/divers/photo/hd/590542590/5149251288/divers-1619092_402953859880432_1128307212753358946_n-big.jpg
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[eib1]

just white would have been better...

[RAS007]

Guys please can you stop this about Evans and Bouffier etc?

lets talk about Loeb/Ogier it will have much more fun.

What do you predict from him? What position will be a good result? what position will be a bad result?
How slower(or faster as i saw from pickems) do yoy predict he will be?

First answer i want from NOT.

Yes, lets talk some more about your leotarded hero, because he just hasn't had enough attention on these boards, has he? FFS.

[Rallyper]

RMC i such an unpredicted rally I believe anything can happen depending on weather conditions. Loebs comeback will irritate Ogier I think. And the outcome will be Ogier getting stuck in a plowbank and retiring.
Ostberg might be the joker this time?

[EstWRC]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s480x480/10931179_10152944399095733_2062442159883393649_n.j pg?oh=8c39650c282c11f12ca13ca9c48aabd7&oe=556BB111&__gda__=1428800750_6b11b05d233a5acb44a3ed08ecc7378 3

[dimviii]

Yes, lets talk some more about your leotarded hero, because he just hasn't had enough attention on these boards, has he? FFS.

is it so hard for you a Loeb conversation? 2 week patience,and it will get over.If pain is insufferable there are Loebphobia pills,last solution i can give you.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7oOL73CcAAY1DS.jpg

[AdvEvo]

It would be incredable if Loeb with his age can fight for top 3.

If he wins or ending lying a ditch he will be having lot's of fun driving. Most of us sitting behind a laptop or standing alongside the stages with a telephone camera in our hand!

[dimviii]

Loebs ds3 at Monte
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7oivEsCYAIIeg7.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7oivDoCIAIhh_s.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7oivE5CEAAzUKM.jpg
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[dimviii]

https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10930114_750422711700547_2376296599155276998_n.jpg ?oh=1063761a2ce3d9ca8c1b12cd89bd6b09&oe=5526769B
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[dimviii]

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[EstWRC]

Nice pictures. thanks!

[GigiGalliNo1]

What car number will Loeb have?

[tommeke_B]

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[N.O.T]

What car number will Loeb have?

most likely 4 since he is nominated.

[dimviii]

Mads Østberg ‏@MadsOstberg
Lunchtime in Nice with @swerallywrc @HenningSolberg and gravel crew @TorsteinEriksen @pgandersson

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7o2gCOCcAA75Sh.jpg

[Mintexmemory]

most likely 4 since he is nominated.

Which is what it says in the Monte entry list on line - don't you have the interweb thingy in Oz GG1? or is it upside down?

[Mintexmemory]

Mads Østberg ‏@MadsOstberg
Lunchtime in Nice with @swerallywrc @HenningSolberg and gravel crew @TorsteinEriksen @pgandersson

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7o2gCOCcAA75Sh.jpg

I see Henning has placed his chips at the far end of the table - he's fooling no one!

[stefanvv]

Bouffier pre Monte interview - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YbNpEo6QOs

[tommeke_B]

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[jbmarcus21]

Polo Wrc 2015 Jari-Matti Latvala [Photo] http://bit.ly/1ISZ3PE

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Citroen's Yves Matton on Monte:

Citroen Racing principal Yves Matton says the one-off return of Sebastien Loeb to the team has given the manufacturer a boost as it seeks a return to winning ways in the 2015 World Rally Championship.

Loeb and co-driver Daniel Elena guided the manufacturer to an unprecedented nine World Rally Championship wins between 2004 and 2012, a dominant run of success that has earned him the mantle as one of motorsport's greatest competitors.

Having retired in 2013 to pursue a career in circuit racing, most recently with Citroen in the World Touring Car Championship, Loeb will kick-start his 2015 season with a one-off outing on the Monte Carlo Rally.

Though it is his first event since the Rallye de France in 2013, Loeb is nominated to score points and is being tipped to add to his seven wins on the event. If he does, it will be Citroen's first WRC win since the 2013 Rally Germany.

“Monte-Carlo is a very important rally for Citroën Racing,” says Matton. “The context at the start of the season, with the one-off return of Sébastien Loeb and Daniel Elena, makes it all the more special! We know that they will come under great scrutiny and that just the fact of being here will cause a stir. For the entire team, this first round has been eagerly awaited.

“We'll get to see the results of several months of work. The DS 3 WRCs have been upgraded with the aim of increasing performance. Our rivals have undoubtedly made improvements too, so we have to manage to remain competitive.

“Our aim is to remain among the best and the efforts of the team, its experience, the return of Sébastien Loeb and the progress made by Kris Meeke and Mads Østberg are our strengths.”

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Latvala:

"I aim for a place in the top four. It would be an achievement for me because I have never done beyond fifth place on this very difficult rally. I clearly not going to risk it all to win this rally. I am already excited to see the end.."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7pRuCRCYAEW1lo.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hyundai MC preview driver/team interviews: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YjY3xxupSw

[dimviii]

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[mousti]

If I'm right Rally 2 is allowed till SS 11 ?

[RAS007]

is it so hard for you a Loeb conversation? 2 week patience,and it will get over.If pain is insufferable there are Loebphobia pills,last solution i can give you.

I appreciate the offer, but think you might need them once the Leotard is gone...anyway, I don't want to fight with you, you seem like a nice fella, and I appreciate the great photos and videos you post, so no hard feelings...

[hari]

If I'm right Rally 2 is allowed till SS 11 ?

According to Bulletin No. 2 restart after retirement (rally 2) is only possible in case of whitdrawal on sections 1,2 and 3.
Which means retirement on Thursday or Friday (SS 8).

http://acm.mc/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/ADDITIF-23.pdf

[Kielder]

I am travelling next Saturday to the Turini. I'll spend the night in the Col for the first time, sleeping in a car. Does anybody know what time will the road be closed from La Bollene Vesubie? I was trying to find information in inforoute (the usual pdf), but it seems they haven't uploaded it yet.
Some advice will be welcome (What time does Trois Vallees & Les Chamois' bar close? How much time is needed to leave the Col after the rally? Is the weather really cold? :) etc.).

[dimviii]

welcome back Kielder.
Waiting some very quickly news and photos from Turini as stages are running.Have a nice rally mate.

[Mirek]

I am travelling next Saturday to the Turini. I'll spend the night in the Col for the first time, sleeping in a car. Does anybody know what time will the road be closed from La Bollene Vesubie? I was trying to find information in inforoute (the usual pdf), but it seems they haven't uploaded it yet.
Some advice will be welcome (What time does Trois Vallees & Les Chamois' bar close? How much time is needed to leave the Col after the rally? Is the weather really cold? :) etc.).

I can't help You with road closures but maybe a little bit with the rest. From my experience the weather on Turini feels usually colder than it actually is. It's relatively close to the sea and there is quite humidity which doesn't help at all. Definitely take a lot of warm clothes and good shoes. It's a long day there out in the cold. I have never been on Turini for WRC event but even in IRC it took a lot of time to get out of there. There is always huge number of cars and the traffic moves sloooooowly. If I remember when the stage ended around midnight we got to Menton around 3 a.m.

Anyway enjoy!

[Kielder]

Hi dimviii,
I left after the "like button affaire". It was very difficult to me following the threads without that tool because I hadn't time enough. There was some issues with the WRC pickems results too...
I believe I won't carry the camera with me. I'm going to feel the Turini, our religion says that we have to do it once in our lifetime. :)
Thank you for your help, Mirek. I´ll take it into account.
Any information about bars' closing-opening times?
I am back for a while now and I will be back in Portugal too. I'll go to recognize the stages before the event, giving you some information about them. Some of the old and new roads are minutes from home.
Happy to post and read again at the best rallying forum.

[Mintexmemory]

Hi dimviii,
I left after the "like button affaire". It was very difficult to me following the threads without that tool because I hadn't time enough. There was some issues with the WRC pickems results too...
I believe I won't carry the camera with me. I'm going to feel the Turini, our religion says that we have to do it once in our lifetime. :)
Thank you for your help, Mirek. I´ll take it into account.
Any information about bars' closing-opening times?
I am back for a while now and I will be back in Portugal too. I'll go to recognize the stages before the event, giving you some information about them. Some of the old and new roads are minutes from home.
Happy to post and read again at the best rallying forum.

Great to see you back K - check out the revitalised pickem now running in its present form for its second season.

[Mirek]

Any information about bars' closing-opening times?

Hehe, if I remember everything was opened till the people were there.

[PLuto]

Col de Turini in the midday... Sorry, but this is really killing the atmosphere of that place...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Weather for Col de Turini
-1° and rising
Clear
Wind: 1 mph (NE)


5°-3° Mon
5°0° Tue
5°0° Wed
3°-2° Thu
1°-2° Fri
2°-3° Sat
2°-2° Sun

[Kielder]

Hehe, if I remember everything was opened till the people were there.

As we say in our land, that's the mentality. At 1600 metres high, by night, in winter, they do a community work. :)

[Kielder]

Col de Turini in the midday... Sorry, but this is really killing the atmosphere of that place...

Of course you're right. I know I'll only see a residue of what it used to be, but we are in the 21st century. People who will go to Fafe or Lousada this year won't know what it was like in the 90's either.
What matter is that I will always be able to say that I spent a whole night at the Turini talking to other rallying fans.

[danon]

Loeb get back to sort that one out... >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ocge3L_TmQw

“Always two there are, no more, no less. A master and an apprentice.”

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[bluuford]

So, am I correct when I say that we have among the highest number of drivers in recent years who are driving WRCars and they are not using Michelin tyes?
1. Prokop, 2. Bertelli, 3. Protasov, 4. Kubica, 5. Solberg. These are all Pirelli users in Monte if I am correct.

From the weather side it looks that most of the stages are prety dry at the moment (I had a time today to search some local information;-), but I exepct two nights with light snowfall (tonight and tomorrow) and then we see what happens. It is very likely that there will be very heavy snowfall on Wednesday and early Thursday

[PLuto]

What matter is that I will always be able to say that I spent a whole night at the Turini talking to other rallying fans.

I can say that I have spent night at the Turini with other rallying fans and also rally cars. And it is not so many years ago...

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/a5eda48ee5127c95155782594873c8b1.jpg
http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/2e29a05f1c6e7e7e909e7fe8c609a35c.jpg
http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/835896b08184a6c3f07bede39ce0a545.jpg

I have found also two videos, one is here: http://www.autosport.cz/video/files/ded0bab5a83d4af2c022b6fb6306b3a8.wmv (134 MB)
The other one is on youtube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITKrOvyTVEs
Another one on youtube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-pyUj3gwiw

[AndyRAC]

Col de Turini at night; that's what the Rallye Monte Carlo is all about!

[Criterium]

Let’s start Monte recce on RallyVista!
http://i38.servimg.com/u/f38/15/38/23/21/mcpres10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/view/15382321/1125)
http://www.interactiveinfluence.com/techali/rallyvista/

If you want to know what it this all about or in case of trouble to run the application, all info is available on the topic:
http://www.motorsportforums.com/showthread.php?35235-RallyVista-3D-animated-maps

[Kielder]

I can say that I have spent night at the Turini with other rallying fans and also rally cars. And it is not so many years ago...


I had planned going there some of those years too, though finally I couldn't. I can't go this year to the whole rally, so I decided to travel to see only the Turini. We never know which is the last chance for everything.
Nevertheless, you know that those videos you have linked aren't the real "Night of Turini" either... I believe that last time it took place was in 1991:

Leg 3 Tuesday 29-Jan-1991

16:33 SS19 Col de Turini 2 22.21 km
18:16 SS20 Col de la Couillole 1 22.15 km
19:31 SS21 Ascros - Toudon 1 23.52 km
21:34 SS22 Col de la Madone 1 18.46 km
22:57 SS23 Col de Turini 3 22.21 km

Wednesday 30-Jan-1991

01:25 SS24 Col de la Couillole 2 22.15 km
02:40 SS25 Ascros - Toudon 2 23.52 km
04:43 SS26 Col de la Madone 2 18.46 km
06:06 SS27 Col de Turini 4 22.21 km

Once, I heard Moya saying that the night of Turini something always happens. Ask Delecour...

[Kielder]

Weather for Col de Turini
-1° and rising
Clear
Wind: 1 mph (NE)


5°-3° Mon
5°0° Tue
5°0° Wed
3°-2° Thu
1°-2° Fri
2°-3° Sat
2°-2° Sun

This is the point. I'm keeping an eye on it too.



From the weather side it looks that most of the stages are prety dry at the moment (I had a time today to search some local information;-), but I exepct two nights with light snowfall (tonight and tomorrow) and then we see what happens. It is very likely that there will be very heavy snowfall on Wednesday and early Thursday

Thanks, bluuford, as usual (I still remember the messages you send me about Alsace last year). I'll wait every updating you could provide.

[EightGear]

Usually Henning pays so late for the car that two things happen:

- he has to use the test car
- the stickering on the car is at best 'minimal' regardless of what he plans...

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Henning+Solberg+FIA+World+Rally+Championship+JIxc-3eV2pSl.jpg

Indeed:

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads8/54bd115b56906/54bd115b4e052-B7t83lpIUAEmd_E.jpg

[RAS007]

Indeed:

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads8/54bd115b56906/54bd115b4e052-B7t83lpIUAEmd_E.jpg

Loooooooooooooooooool

[AdvEvo]

What kind of budget should you tink off to drive a WRC car at the monte like Henning does?

[AndyRAC]

I had planned going there some of those years too, though finally I couldn't. I can't go this year to the whole rally, so I decided to travel to see only the Turini. We never know which is the last chance for everything.
Nevertheless, you know that those videos you have linked aren't the real "Night of Turini" either... I believe that last time it took place was in 1991:

Leg 3 Tuesday 29-Jan-1991

16:33 SS19 Col de Turini 2 22.21 km
18:16 SS20 Col de la Couillole 1 22.15 km
19:31 SS21 Ascros - Toudon 1 23.52 km
21:34 SS22 Col de la Madone 1 18.46 km
22:57 SS23 Col de Turini 3 22.21 km

Wednesday 30-Jan-1991

01:25 SS24 Col de la Couillole 2 22.15 km
02:40 SS25 Ascros - Toudon 2 23.52 km
04:43 SS26 Col de la Madone 2 18.46 km
06:06 SS27 Col de Turini 4 22.21 km

Once, I heard Moya saying that the night of Turini something always happens. Ask Delecour...

Now that, is Rallying!!