Rally Wrc France-Alsace 2014

[bluuford]

Seems that Tiedemand crashed.. rolled to be exact.. shame..it was nice fight in WRC2

[rage82]

Smashing time for Camili in ss5, a lot faster than anyone else!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS6: LATVALA EDGES AHEAD
"This is my favourite stage. "I could do this twice again tomorrow. Okay, we have the lead, it's a good position to be in, and the car feels good, but there's still a long way to go."

SS6: MIKKELSEN IMPRESSED
He's four second seconds slower than Latvala - and laughs at his team-mate's achievement. "Jari-Matti's time is absolutely crazy. It's madness! Okay, I'm happy with my time - I've not felt so happy in the Polo on tarmac before - but Jari-Matti was insanely quick.. :D

[dimviii]

Anyone else finding slow times on WRC.com & rally-base ?

I'm now using - http://best-of-rallylive.com/Evenements/Rallye-de-France-2014#ong_spec

ewrc.cz today is fast for times


photos from borl
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive/

[EightGear]

Abbring showing Kuipers where Dennis should rather spend his money on. 16S seconds quicker than Gilbert as well.

[Mintexmemory]

Abbring showing Kuipers where Dennis should rather spend his money on. 16S seconds quicker than Gilbert as well.

I suppose the whole Dutch rally fraternity is holding its collective breath.

KA really deserves the car to hold together after the determination he's shown to succeed over the past 5 years and the disappointments he's had with the 208 this year. Top 10 WRC finish would be wonderful, fingers crossed.

[wwbroe]

Yeah, another blistering performance by Kevin, he really deserves to make it to the finish this time and hopefully some big boss is seeing what a capable rally driver he really is.

[Rallyper]

Where is Abbring now? Don´t see him in results.

[EightGear]

Where is Abbring now? Don´t see him in results.

He finished the stage, 5:13.5.

[Micke_VOC]

Pontus rolled when he hit one of the "road-mark signs" on the innerside of a corner with one of the front wheels..

Edit: This type....
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByuJjPeIUAARQHv.jpg

[RICARDO75]

Abbring lost more than 2m30s and some positions

[Gregor-y]

Pontus rolled when he hit one of the "road-mark signs" on the innerside of a corner with one of the front wheels..

Edit: This type....
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ByuJjPeIUAARQHv.jpg
Ahoj, Mirek! ;)

[latek]

I20 looks very slow in France. In 2013 Sordo and Neuville were fighting for the win and today they were nowhere on pace.

[EightGear]

Abbring lost more than 2m30s and some positions
That's a wrong time. He didn't mention anything at the end of the stage. Hirschi was missing before him so maybe that confused the timing system.

[dimviii]

Lefebvre
http://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_10_2014/post-4664-0-30118400-1412348301.png

[makinen_fan]

That's a wrong time. He didn't mention anything at the end of the stage. Hirschi was missing before him so maybe that confused the timing system.

Now appears correct in rally-base, leads WRC2 by 32s

[PLuto]

Now appears correct in rally-base, leads WRC2 by 32s

Kevin is not leading WRC2 as he is not registered there...

[mousti]

I20 looks very slow in France. In 2013 Sordo and Neuville were fighting for the win and today they were nowhere on pace.
Neuville was on pace till the turbo broke down, repaired now, but seems the rhythm is gone or car is still not working 100%..

[GigiGalliNo1]

Hope everyone here heard the Greg Strange tribute on the radio.

[Mirek]

Ahoj, Mirek! ;)

Ahoj :D

On a serious note... shit happens but the signs were there in the recce so if this one was not moved it's driver's mistake to hit it. It's the same like stones logs or snow-poles around the road.

[makinen_fan]

Kevin is not leading WRC2 as he is not registered there...

RC2 category i mean... never noticed that he is not registered for WRC2. Stupid rules IMHO

[Sulland]

SS6: MIKKELSEN IMPRESSED
He's four second seconds slower than Latvala - and laughs at his team-mate's achievement. "Jari-Matti's time is absolutely crazy. It's madness! Okay, I'm happy with my time - I've not felt so happy in the Polo on tarmac before - but Jari-Matti was insanely quick.. :D

Mikkelsen still under orders, until the bronze in 2014 is secured.
If 3rd overall is secured in France, he will be free for the rest of the season.
Lets see if he can improve even more on the 2 last rallies.

[Rallyper]

Now appears correct in rally-base, leads WRC2 by 32s

Maybe that´s why he didn´t appear at once, or me having blind eyes...

[makinen_fan]

Kubica off in hairpin:
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10205179297188697

[stefanvv]

Kubica off in hairpin:
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10205179297188697

Big laugh:D

[manthey]

Kubica off in hairpin:
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10205179297188697

Am I wrong or it's the same road section where Sarrazin tested yaris wrc and his new fiesta wrc?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRWTWiXxyVE

[noel157]

Presume we'll see some cars after the basketball? Hope so.

[makinen_fan]

Online from ESPN
http://www.time4tv.com/2011/09/espn.php

[noel157]

That's better, thanks.

[KKS]

Online from ESPN
http://www.time4tv.com/2011/09/espn.php
and http://torrent-tv.ru/torrent-online.php?translation=9454 better quality :)

[christy but]

not a good stage to show live.boring

[makinen_fan]

what's the starting order? as tomorrow?

[Jafry]

More photos from DAY1 in Alsace HERE: http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1302

[adr17]

Big laugh:D

You try a wrc car flat out with basically one hand and then we will laugh at you

[stefanvv]

You try a wrc car flat out with basically one hand and then we will laugh at you

You got me wrong, I'm laughing at the laughing people, not Kubica

[dimviii]

watch at 54 sec!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kAgt9PQUorY

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJTLpe2XVOA

[Fast Eddie WRC]

not a good stage to show live.boring

Worst live SSS I've seen - no crowd in sight, no atmosphere, no excitement. Poor effort from the organisers and Strasbourg city which gained nothing from it.

Remember the SSS in places like Mexico - they were worth watching.

[KKS]

watch at 54 sec!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kAgt9PQUorY
and strange at 2:48... Evans drive a car into a service postion... he must push it here no? Only one service in a day so maybe picture not from today?

[stefanvv]

and strange at 2:48... Evans drive a car into a service postion... he must push it here no? Only one service in a day so maybe picture not from today?

2 I think - after SS3 and 6

[stefanvv]

You try a wrc car flat out with basically one hand and then we will laugh at you

Yep, Kubica is not happy about it as well:
http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2014/1302/1302_rally_de_france_-_alsace_2014_97be67b945.jpg

[KKS]

Protasov from video looks fast, but times always so slow :(

And BTW, no Porsche onboards yet?

[KKS]

2 I think - after SS3 and 6
after SS6 no service , just regruop

[vino_93]

Camilli and Delecour out in SSS ? :(
Hauswald lost 4' too ...

[PLuto]

Two services today - after SS 3 and SS 7 (http://rally-base.com/2014/rallye-de-france-alsace-2014/time-table/)

[Tom206wrc]

Mechanical or mistakes for Delecour, Camilli and Hauswald :confused:

[wildboar]

Mechanical or mistakes for Delecour, Camilli and Hauswald :confused:

Probably not, Tuthill tweets: "Minor timing confusion - all OK. Slight hold up on last stage due to wrong slotting on road section #longday #rallyedefrance"

[Tom206wrc]

Probably not, Tuthill tweets: "Minor timing confusion - all OK. Slight hold up on last stage due to wrong slotting on road section #longday #rallyedefrance"

Let's hope the same for Camilli :mark:

[KKS]

Two services today - after SS 3 and SS 7 (http://rally-base.com/2014/rallye-de-france-alsace-2014/time-table/)
jep.... for service after SS3 we saw that Evans push car by his arms, and service after SS7 have no daylight.
So how car no.6 drive into service spot on one's own

[makinen_fan]

jep.... for service after SS3 we saw that Evans push car by his arms, and service after SS7 have no daylight.
So how car no.6 drive into service spot on one's own

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but after the car passes the Service in control, mechanics can work on the car.
I remember someone in midday service (Wilson?) saying that the mechanics would use another battery to start up the car and not push it all the way

[nafpaktos]

Let's hope the same for Camilli :mark:
No news yet?

[stefanvv]

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but after the car passes the Service in control, mechanics can work on the car.
I remember someone in midday service (Wilson?) saying that the mechanics would use another battery to start up the car and not push it all the way

They can use spare battery in the car under some circumstances I think

[nafpaktos]

Everything ok for camilli.

[PLuto]

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but after the car passes the Service in control, mechanics can work on the car.
I remember someone in midday service (Wilson?) saying that the mechanics would use another battery to start up the car and not push it all the way

Yes, you are correct.

[nafpaktos]

From a different more imteresting angle

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0eytDhBFtJ0&feature=youtu.be

[PLuto]

Start list into second leg - http://rally-base.com/2014/rallye-de-france-alsace-2014/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=497

You can see some strange and really safe order. For example Pontus Tidemand one minute behind Johan Heloise, Kevin Abbring behind Jourdan Serderidis (thanks god after two minutes), Matteo Gamba behind Alain Pyrame, Jonathan Hirschi (208 T16) behind Terry Folb (DS3 R1)...

[mohit]

hello all!
is there any information about driver line-up for 2015 yet ?

[Tom206wrc]

Everything ok for camilli.


Indeed, and with only 10" lateness on Fisher in JWRC, that wouldn't surprise me if Eric would take the lead on today saturday leg :D

[jonkka]

You try a wrc car flat out with basically one hand and then we will laugh at you

Is your point that one should not laugh at handicapped person? Because his results have been rather one-sided (off, off and once more off).

[stefanvv]

hello all!
is there any information about driver line-up for 2015 yet ?

I will drive Fiesta with 1 hand next year obviously:D. Nothing against Kubica.

EDIT: btw there is thread about 2015 season

[stefanvv]

Is your point that one should not laugh at handicapped person? Because his results have been rather one-sided (off, off and once more off).

Looks like that. But he wants to do it himself, rather confusing post turning against the author. I understand the bias about Kubica, but this is blind madness.

[stefanvv]

For those not watched it already - day 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UXSl4hmGnY

[stefanvv]

Sport+ is working for me today:
http://www.direct-foot.info/?page=live&id=527&name=streaming-championnat-du-monde-2014-france-alsace
http://live.drakulastream.eu/static/freepopups/24404005744850.html

[wwbroe]

Sport+ is working for me today:
http://www.direct-foot.info/?page=live&id=527&name=streaming-championnat-du-monde-2014-france-alsace
http://live.drakulastream.eu/static/freepopups/24404005744850.html

Thanks for the links, it is working also in Belgium;)

[Tom206wrc]

OK, start of Leg 2 now(SS8 running) :cool:

[stefanvv]

Interesting starting leg2 order. Wasn't the opposite in Germany?

[stefanvv]

Interesting starting leg2 order. Wasn't the opposite in Germany?

My mistake, the same - http://rally-base.com/2014/adac-rallye-deutschland-2014/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=480

[wwbroe]

Is there actually any site where split times are working?

[rage82]

What browser are you guys using?

[wwbroe]

I am using Google Chrome

[wwbroe]

Ogier is trough safely

[Tom206wrc]

Frédéric Hauswald definitely retired what a shame, he was a great surprise in WRC3 ;(

[stefanvv]

Mozilla Firefox is fine for me

[stefanvv]

wrc.com splits works, but slow as usual

[kolin]

Split?

[wwbroe]

You guys have any idea why split serrvice of Citroen is not working this time?

[jonkka]

Split?

A town in Balkans.

[stefanvv]

small spin for Neuville

[wwbroe]

Neuville saying he is not very happy with the car, struggling to find some grip

[stefanvv]

this is so far:
1. 1 FRAS. OGIER M 00:02:39.6 00:04:51.7 00:06:40.4 9:16.8
2. 12 UKRY. PROTASOV +8.6 +17.9 +28.8 9:57.2
3. 22 FRAJ. MAURIN +6.8 +11.1 +20.1 9:42.2
4. 11 NLDD. KUIPERS +7.0 +11.2 +21.0 9:43.0
7 BELT. NEUVILLE M -0.3 +1.5 +3.7
6 GBRE. EVANS M -1.4 +1.4 +1.3
21 CZEM. PROKOP T +2.8

[rage82]

I have tried chrome and mozilla nothing's working:(

[jonkka]

I don't think it's browser dependant.

[wwbroe]

I have tried chrome and mozilla nothing's working:(

It is not working trying to open what?

[stefanvv]

I have tried chrome and mozilla nothing's working:(

I use us proxy (for other reasons), but looks like this might be the problem: barracuda-web.richlandsd.net:3128

[wwbroe]

Kubica second fastest sofar, just 3,7 sec behind Ogier

[wwbroe]

Average speed on this stage from Ogier 122,2 km/h:eek:

[stefanvv]

Fords are fast this morning

[wwbroe]

Kubica only 0,6 sec from Ostberg in overall classification now.

[wwbroe]

Mikkelsen 1 sec faster as Ogier, new besttime

[stefanvv]

Awesome, a fight is coming today

EDIT: a nordic one on asphalt:)

[wwbroe]

JML is taking this one as well, great driving

[wwbroe]

Another 1-2-3 for Volkswagen, this car is really too strong for the rest...

[jonkka]

JML is taking this one as well, great driving

He's got plenty of stages left to go off.

[stefanvv]

Any info about the tyre choices?

[stefanvv]

Sat 08:56 - SS8: Bouffier jumpy
The Frenchman is 23.9sec slower than Ogier. "It was okay but really bumpy and the car is jumping about a lot."

[wwbroe]

He's got plenty of stages left to go off.
That is true, it is not in the pocket yet, i guess he is remembering Deutschland, he could have been in the lead of the championship after France, but unfortunally he threw it away in Germany.

[bluuford]

Any info about the tyre choices?
All hard... Kubica has one soft.

[stefanvv]

Any info about the tyre choices?

Here it is:
Sat 08:39 - SS8: Tyre selections
All but one of the Michelin World Rally Car crews left service with four hard compound tyres and one hard compound spare. Kubica is the only exception - he has four hards and one soft

[wwbroe]

Second stage of the day is live allready, let's see if trend is going on, i mean another VW 1-2-3?

[stefanvv]

All hard... Kubica has one soft.

Yeah, he had it at the rear and wasn't quite happy, still good time

[wwbroe]

Ogier safely trough stage 9

[wwbroe]

Another blistering fast time by Kevin Abbring in WRC2 on stage 8

[wwbroe]

Hirvonen again slower as teammate Evans

[jonkka]

Interesting comparison between Mikko and Kubica on splits 2 and 3.

[wwbroe]

Kubica in front of Ostberg now!

[wwbroe]

Looks like Evans was quite fast on this one, still second best time, faster as Meeke as well.

[wwbroe]

Mikkelsen 3 sec slower as Ogier, on second split he was 3,6 sec faster, must be a difficult second part of stage?

[wwbroe]

JML takes the stage but only by 0.2 sec from Ogier

[wwbroe]

Stage 10 should be live, but i don't see any dots on the stage yet on WRC+

[wwbroe]

Stage 10 start was delayed, but i don't know why?

[stefanvv]

First 2 stages looks nice for GT. Dumas almost same time as Abbring on 1st

[KKS]

I have tried chrome and mozilla nothing's working:(
same for me :(

[makinen_fan]

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/23/31/Rallye_Frankreich_2014_054_233105_542f03604.jpg

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/23/32/Rallye_Frankreich_2014_065_233213_542f03801.jpg

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/23/31/Rallye_Frankreich_2014_070_233129_542f033da.jpg

[wwbroe]

Yet another besttime in WRC2 for Kevin Abbring, give this man a WRC seat!

[HaCo]

Yet another besttime in WRC2 for Kevin Abbring, give this man a WRC seat!


Yes please. Ford or Citroen: wake up!

[stefanvv]

Yet another besttime in WRC2 for Kevin Abbring, give this man a WRC seat!

May be they will. Lets see Mattons decision after the Rally

[jonkka]

So WRC2 leader should automatically get chance in works team?

[KKS]

Somebody find working splits? (except wrc.com)

[wwbroe]

So WRC2 leader should automatically get chance in works team?

I am not saying that, but if you have a look at his times in every rally he took on this year, you should see that he is remarkebly fast guy. Unfortunally his Peugeot was not of the same quality, let's hope he can make it to the finish in this rally.

[jonkka]

I am not saying that, but if you have a look at his times in every rally he took on this year, you should see that he is remarkebly fast guy.

This is his first WRC rally this year. In fact, he did not do any WRC rallies last year either.

[stefanvv]

Dumas faster than Abbring on SS9 by 14.2 sec:)

[stefanvv]

wow, Kubica 2.1 slower than Ogier SS10:)

[wwbroe]

Dumas faster than Abbring on SS9 by 14.2 sec:)

Did you see the average speed of this stage? 125 km/h, should please the power of the Porsche, but great run anyway.

[stefanvv]

Did you see the average speed of this stage? 125 km/h, should please the power of the Porsche, but great run anyway.

Yep, as I said expected GT to be fast on SS8/9, probably not so much on SS10

[KKS]

I use us proxy (for other reasons), but looks like this might be the problem: barracuda-web.richlandsd.net:3128
tnx.... with proxy works fine

[wwbroe]

Kubica is 2,5 sec faster as Ostberg, so extending his advantage over the Citroen driver

[EightGear]

This is his first WRC rally this year. In fact, he did not do any WRC rallies last year either.
Exactly. And yet he is still beating the other RC2s.

[wwbroe]

Poor time by Meeke, what happened?

[stefanvv]

Mikkelsen said need to push more.... and push he does

[jonkka]

Exactly. And yet he is still beating the other RC2s.

You judge based on one occasion? Sure, give him seat, we have spare seats in works teams.

[KKS]

not fighting talk form Meeke :(

[wwbroe]

You judge based on one occasion? Sure, give him seat, we have spare seats in works teams.

Well, not that many seats available, but also not many drivers available to fill them, at least not capable one's...:D

[wwbroe]

Yet another 1-2-3 for VW, JML taking this one as well

[stefanvv]

Meeke is not fighting, he drives for 3rd

[6789]

Finnish friends, what was Latvala to Mika Anttila at the stage end?

[stefanvv]

Great performance by VW, no doubt

[EightGear]

You judge based on one occasion? Sure, give him seat, we have spare seats in works teams.

I'm basing it on his speed in ERC as well. But we'll see. Last year he was a secret Hyundai testdriver.

[JTGANG]

You judge based on one occasion? Sure, give him seat, we have spare seats in works teams.

It seems you are not watching his career and times each time is competing....Abbring is the fastest driver out there without a factory seat and he has proven same

[wwbroe]

Abbring is saying that he is just backing off a little bit, because Peugeot want him to be at finish of the rally.:)

[KKS]

This non-fighting spirit form Kris would drive him to a problems with Sordo.

[wwbroe]

This non-fighting spirit form Kris would drive him to a problems with Sordo.

Maybe, but i think Sordo have to watch his back, as Kubica is closing in fast.

[noel157]

This non-fighting spirit form Kris would drive him to a problems with Sordo.

There's a lot at stake for him (2015). Fighting would be good but.........
Matton did tell him last week that he can go as fast as he likes.

[dimviii]

Yep, as I said expected GT to be fast on SS8/9, probably not so much on SS10

at ss10 they are few seconds faster from ds3 r3 cars.

[Mirek]

So WRC2 leader should automatically get chance in works team?

First he is not doing WRC2 as he is not registered. Second as You said it's his first WRC appearance this year but after 10 stages he keeps crushing all the all-time-discussed future stars like Tidemand or Chardonnet. Third he has done several ERC starts this year and in every but one of them he was leading since the start, never crashed but always his car broke down. He was not competing against nobodies there but guys like Lappi or Breen about whom we know how fast they are. IMHO he is the guy with the biggest potential among those without factory seat.

[Mirek]

at ss10 they are few seconds faster from ds3 r3 cars.

What is more important is the right column. If counted together with R5/S2000 cars they would be 4th and 6th. That's good.

[noel157]

+1

[makinen_fan]

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/france-2014/6r1a5720.jpg

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/france-2014/rppa5901.jpg

[jacko]

It seems you are not watching his career and times each time is competing....Abbring is the fastest driver out there without a factory seat and he has proven same

If people like Jonkka can't judge the speed of Abbring, leave them alone. For me, it's a very positive sign good drivers can become in the picture of the manufacturers. KA didn't have the big sponsorship on his career but was doing very good drives in the lower classes and each time he has a good car, he won or did remarkable times. Volkswagen already notices the speed of KA and contracted him for 2012 (to drive the Skoda Fabia S2000) but for some reasons he didn't got the WRC-car. Hyundai gave him two days of (secret) testing in the i20WRC and that was not for the fun.

He drove the French championship R3 class last year because he was left without a drive and saw a chance for a new step in his career because the winner got the drive in the Peugeot 208 T16 in some ERC-rounds. He won it and this year KA is very impressive in the ERC.
Now in France, his first time out there, he beats local & talented drivers like Gilbert & Chardonnet, hot wanted drivers like Tidemand and experience drivers like Pons and Sousa. And halfway this rally his advantage is almost a minute !!

KA is by far the most impressive driver this season, think 95% will agree with that here on the forum especially after the first 1,5 day in the Rally France.

Yes, he's like me a dutchmen and i'm really over the moon we will have for the first time a driver who will have a 100% workseat next year and the years after, read my words! It can be the the third or fourth car @Hyundai, maybe with VW or PSA will hold him as a worksdriver and gave him a Peugeot for the ERC (and some rounds in the WRC) or to compete in the WRC2 or maybe a third Citroën to compete in the WRC.

[makinen_fan]

Surely this is by far the more suitable rally for RGT cars, maybe only a full-tarmac Catalunya rally will suit them more (as it was in 2000s).

[Allyc85]

How are we looking for live streams at the moment? :)

[wwbroe]

If people like Jonkka can't judge the speed of Abbring, leave them alone. For me, it's a very positive sign good drivers can become in the picture of the manufacturers. KA didn't have the big sponsorship on his career but was doing very good drives in the lower classes and each time he has a good car, he won or did remarkable times. Volkswagen already notices the speed of KA and contracted him for 2012 (to drive the Skoda Fabia S2000) but for some reasons he didn't got the WRC-car. Hyundai gave him two days of (secret) testing in the i20WRC and that was not for the fun.

He drove the French championship R3 class last year because he was left without a drive and saw a chance for a new step in his career because the winner got the drive in the Peugeot 208 T16 in some ERC-rounds. He won it and this year KA is very impressive in the ERC.
Now in France, his first time out there, he beats local & talented drivers like Gilbert & Chardonnet, hot wanted drivers like Tidemand and experience drivers like Pons and Sousa. And halfway this rally his advantage is almost a minute !!

KA is by far the most impressive driver this season, think 95% will agree with that here on the forum especially after the first 1,5 day in the Rally France.

Yes, he's like me a dutchmen and i'm really over the moon we will have for the first time a driver who will have a 100% workseat next year and the years after, read my words! It can be the the third or fourth car @Hyundai, maybe with VW or PSA will hold him as a worksdriver and gave him a Peugeot for the ERC (and some rounds in the WRC) or to compete in the WRC2 or maybe a third Citroën to compete in the WRC.

I am not a Dutchman myself, but i agree with you that he should have a decent seat next year.;)

[dimviii]

What is more important is the right column. If counted together with R5/S2000 cars they would be 4th and 6th. That's good.

is it good 1,5 minute at half rally?

[Mirek]

is it good 1,5 minute at half rally?

Do You seriously believe that Dumas and Delecour would fight with Abbring if they had same car? I don't think so. With others the gap is small, only Abbring is one minute away.

[Francis44]

Yestarday on the daily highlights I swear I saw Daniel Elena co-driving someone on the DS3 R5 and it isn't Chardonnet, since in the entry list he is partnered with his usual co-driver.

A quick look at the entrylist and I dont see him there.

Am I losing my mind or what?!

[dimviii]

Do You seriously believe that Dumas and Delecour would fight with Abbring if they had same car? I don't think so. With others the gap is small, only Abbring is one minute away.

Of course Abbring is at a different league,but dont forget that this rally is dry and that suits gt cars.At Barum ie they would be much slower.
In any case i dont find any interest about gt cars at rallies for many reasons.

[Mintexmemory]

Surely this is by far the more suitable rally for RGT cars, maybe only a full-tarmac Catalunya rally will suit them more (as it was in 2000s).

Looks like it will be full tarmac Catalunya in 2015 as it's in the R-GT Cup series - Fancy going?

[KKS]

Next stage will be LIVE on ESPN

[EightGear]

Looks like it will be full tarmac Catalunya in 2015 as it's in the R-GT Cup series - Fancy going?
No it isn't: MC, Ypres, Germany, Valais and Corsica. ;)

[Mintexmemory]

I am not a Dutchman myself, but i agree with you that he should have a decent seat next year.;)
Since Catalunya 2009 I've been following KA's career - At that time I thought both KA and Hans Weijs were the quickest J-WRC driver (Prokop and Burkhart were in the event). What has impressed me is that KA has driven whenever and whatever he could, and hasn't used 'lack of cash' as a reason for not competing even though he might have felt entitled to a IRC/ERC drive. In my view VW made a big mistake in overlooking his potential, but then, they were desperate for Wiegand to succeed to the exclusion of common sense.

[Mintexmemory]

No it isn't: MC, Ypres, Germany, Valais and Corsica. ;)

Damn - just hit 60 3 weeks ago, clearly the mind is going!!!!

Valais might be a nice trip with an out of season gite

[Mirek]

Of course Abbring is at a different league,but dont forget that this rally is dry and that suits gt cars.At Barum ie they would be much slower.
In any case i dont find any interest about gt cars at rallies for many reasons.

Of course I know that. I like them because they are very spectacular for the people. In most of typical spectator places R5 cars are boring (Fiesta especially). GTs are loud with bad traction, people like that. Of course in high speed sections they are not so nice to watch like S2000 for example but that's life. Something is good somewhere, something else elsewhere. I always like the variety and I'm absolutely sure that even though GTs would be quite slow and dangerous for Czech roads everybody here would welcome them just like always when they came to Rally Lužické Hory (Lausitz Cup wih Germans). They never did any good result but they always entertained the crowd.

Besides that don't forget that the cars currently running in Alsace are restricted with less power than stock ones...

[trifonvl]

ESPN link

http://u-peak.me/espn-uk.html

[Mirek]

What has impressed me is that KA has driven whenever and whatever he could, and hasn't used 'lack of cash' as a reason for not competing even though he might have felt entitled to a IRC/ERC drive. In my view VW made a big mistake in overlooking his potential, but then, they were desperate for Wiegand to succeed to the exclusion of common sense.

Actually Weijs did the same. Remember his crazy driving with old Golf III Kit Car? :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Excellent work again by Evans this morning with a 4th best time (after the VWs) and two 6th best, very close to Meeke and beating other tarmac aces, Sordo & Neuville. Promising for 2015.

[Allyc85]

ESPN link

http://u-peak.me/espn-uk.html

AVG flags up a threat to my PC with that link.

[KKS]

And LIVE SS11 @ESPN - begin

[KKS]

http://torrent-tv.ru/torrent-online.php?translation=9454 ESPN
http://torrent-tv.ru/torrent-online.php?translation=9527 ArenaSport1

[jonkka]

It seems you are not watching his career and times each time is competing....

Why should I follow his every move?

[wwbroe]

Ogier safely trough stage 11

[KKS]

Evans push so hard! Beautiful to watch!

[jonkka]

Evans push so hard! Beautiful to watch!

There is no point going safely on a rally that he knows best (out of the WRC rounds).

[HaCo]

AVG flags up a threat to my PC with that link.

Remove AVG and replace it with Microsoft Defender, free and good IMO.

[HaCo]

ESPN link

http://u-peak.me/espn-uk.html


Thanks for sharing, having fun watching (my wife less :p ).

[KKS]

There is no point going safely on a rally that he knows best (out of the WRC rounds).
Maybe, but all Fords at this satge looks great! Including Mikko! :)

[wwbroe]

Second best time for Mikko, faster as Kubica by 2,2 sec

[EightGear]

Mikko is catching Ostberg.

[wwbroe]

Meeke is reacting, second best time on stage 11 for the moment

[HaCo]

Virtual spectator, after 10 years, finally used live and in real time: awesome!

[HaCo]

Latvala impressive! But nobody is really pushing I think.

[stefanvv]

Virtual spectator, after 10 years, finally used live and in real time: awesome!

Yeah, this year Canal+ are ahead with the technology

[stefanvv]

Latvala impressive! But nobody is really pushing I think.

Really:D, I thought all in top 8 are

[wwbroe]

Another besttime for JML, beating teammate Ogier and Meeke, fourtrh for Mikkelsen

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shame for Evans making a small mistake to lose time after a good morning.

Meeke did well to beat Mikkelsen.

[Sulland]

Virtual spectator, after 10 years, finally used live and in real time: awesome!

What TV channel is this on HaCo?

[wwbroe]

And next stage (12) finished for Ogier, safely trough.

[denkimi]

that vw car is once again in a league of its own. hopefully hyundai can improve next year so there's at least a real fight.

[KKS]

Great stage to watch! Good coverage, good nature of stage, it's a perfect situation and combination to watch a rally. But a bit difficult switching from TV to WRC radio :)

[satukata]

Great stage to watch! Good coverage, good nature of stage, it's a perfect situation and combination to watch a rally. But a bit difficult switching from TV to WRC radio :)

More live stages. Mikko is fast in live stages ;)

[makinen_fan]

Really nice coverage of the stage, and good choice to use 3min gaps to cover more of each driver.
Last night's stage was a disgrace though...

[Mirek]

Meeke did well to beat Mikkelsen.

Mikkelsen beats Meeke by 30 seconds or have I missed something?

[jolle1982]

is there another stream for rest of the stages today?

[wwbroe]

Mikkelsen beats Meeke by 30 seconds or have I missed something?
I guess he meant beating Mikkelsen on stage 11:D

[wwbroe]

is there another stream for rest of the stages today?

You could try this one: http://www.direct-foot.info/?page=live&id=527&name=streaming-championnat-du-monde-2014-france-alsace

[jolle1982]

thanks

[KKS]

Starnge but WRC splits work for me fine without BIG delay
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/results/live/split-times/page/63-294-59--.html

[manthey]

Actually Weijs did the same. Remember his crazy driving with old Golf III Kit Car? :)

I still well remember a video of weijs awesome control with c2 s1600

back to wrc: on stage 12 ogier is complaining about tyres moving
"Good stage for us but the tyres are moving a lot. This is not a good sign for Catalunya."

[wwbroe]

Fight for fouth place is going on, Kubica fastest from Ostberg and Hirvonen, let's see if Sordo can keep up.

[noel157]

Rain forecast for tomorrow?

[wwbroe]

Kubica another 1,9 sec faster as Sordo, coming at 4,4 overall

[spiderem]

any team orders at vw? mikkelsen not to put pressure on JML to avoid a remake of germany?

[wwbroe]

Good time for Kris again, second fastest trough sofar

[wwbroe]

It cerainly looks like Mikkelsen backed off a little, so maybe some teamorders may be involved?

[jonkka]

I don't believe in team orders at VW, why they would do that? They have manu title and even if either goes off, there's the other still to bag the win for the team.

[wwbroe]

So, besttime for Ogier in front of Meeke and Latvalla.

[KKS]

I think Mikkelsen start drive for Meeke splits, JML drive for Andreas splits - and Sunday driving begin at Saturday

all eye's now for 4th

[wwbroe]

Delecour out of the rally:(

[arko5]

so ss13 will be cancelled??

[KKS]

Stage 13 interrupted?

[noel157]

Looks like safety car has crashed?

[KKS]

yes zero car at trees.... and I have bad thoughts about this :( fingers crossed!

[noel157]

Road kinda blocked:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzGhFdJIMAA81MG.jpg

[wwbroe]

Crew is ok, according to Thierry Neuville

[noel157]

Looks like a gentle roll. Co-driver ok?

[wwbroe]

Strange that Ogier didn't receive yellow flag, he didn't mention anything at stopfinish?

[KKS]

Looks car in trees(#202) was off before... at SS10

[wwbroe]

They will apparently restart the stage after another zero car goes trough stage, what with crews that went trough and slowed down after yellow flag. Ogier wasn't show any yellow flag wich is very strange. Notional times will be very difficult to make up.

[Tom206wrc]

No Romain Dumas on SS12 :confused:

[wwbroe]

No Romain Dumas on SS12 :confused:

No sign of him at finish? Both Porsches out of the game then.:(

[Tom206wrc]

Road kinda blocked:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzGhFdJIMAA81MG.jpg


I didn't know Laskowski was driving an R3 Max :eek: I thought he should have driven an R1 as "0" car :confused:

[wwbroe]

So, they moved the crashed zero-car away before Ogier was passing there? He didn't get a yellow flag but the others did?

[Tom206wrc]

No Martin Koci in SS12 :(
I guess whatever happens Stéphane Lefèbvre is JWRC champion now :confused:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke was talking about a 'sting in the tail' tomorrow and 'all to play for' ... what's this mean, bad weather forecast ??

BTW is there a live stream link for today please ?

[KKS]

So, they moved the crashed zero-car away before Ogier was passing there? He didn't get a yellow flag but the others did?
seems this zero was at side of the road on a bank... and then slipped from the hill to road at roof. Maybe they tried to go back and put car on roof

[dimviii]

No sign of him at finish? Both Porsches out of the game then.:(

according to ewrc.cz Dumas finished ss12

[wwbroe]

Meeke was talking about a 'sting in the tail' tomorrow and 'all to play for' ... what's this mean, bad weather forecast ??

BTW is there a live stream link for today please ?
You can try this one: http://www.direct-foot.info/?page=live&id=527&name=streaming-championnat-du-monde-2014-france-alsace

[KKS]

BTW is there a live stream link for today please ?

seems like sport+ finish stream from SS13 just now

[stefanvv]

No sign of him at finish? Both Porsches out of the game then.:(

According to rally-base has finished with time 00:10:13.4. No Delcour though

[noel157]

The streaming guy just changed channels during the commercial break, hope he switches back.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

You can try this one: http://www.direct-foot.info/?page=live&id=527&name=streaming-championnat-du-monde-2014-france-alsace

Thanks - Working well. Has this shown the rally, Rugby on now ?

EDIT - no just finished ! :(

[dimviii]

No Martin Koci in SS12 :(
I guess whatever happens Stéphane Lefèbvre is JWRC champion now :confused:

Koci has only 2 splits at stage 12,and were slow splits vs other wrc3 competitors.Probably started with some problem?

[KKS]

ss13: Stage will restart at 1435hrs

[arko5]

Evan just started

[noel157]

No TV? Pity.

[KKS]

no tv, no splits.... looks like results of 2016 season we must see at newspapers :(

[noel157]

No nothing.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

And I cant bear listening to rally radio - Becs & Colin are so annoying. :(

[stefanvv]

splits are showing now

[KKS]

ewrz has screen from sport+ with logo
http://www.ewrc-results.com/quickp/13901_post-19-0-10134500-1412427004.jpg
they use another link, that we have here (no logo here)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Zero car crash - organisation failed as usual.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzGsCdFIIAAyTZS.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

BILLIOT Jérémie ‏@planetemarcus at the scene of the zero car crash:

'Nobody can decide to move car ! Police are just aggressive with fans ! Game over Alsace ! Rally have to move another place ! '

[RICARDO75]

I am curious to know what times will be assigned to Neuville, Kuipers, Maurin and Protasov on SS13.

[Tom206wrc]

Big blow for Xavi Pons who lost almost 3' on split2 SS13 :mark:

[HaCo]

Lucky escape?
http://ewrc-results.com/quickp/13901_bzfppkgciaaltpq.jpg

[stefanvv]

Lucky escape?

Yeah, but You don't understand his condition, it's really difficult for him to steer, change gears and pull handbrake with one hand.

[Ucci]

I didn't follow rally today, I just came back and checked all-day activity. Well dear colleagues, nobody is praising R.Kubica !! My god, this is the event of his life ! Very consisting times, practically no mistakes, the fastest Ford, catching Sordo !! Well this is magnificent. Just keep on doing Robert.
Second to mention (my big love)-911's! Just imagine to have both drivers (sorry for Delecour, the accident was nasty one...) in non-restricted cars....
Third to mention- Kevin Abbring. Pray to get him to the finish....
But what is wrong with Neuville?? And the choice which made Hyundai with Bouffier turned out to be completely wrong. I hope I didn't offense his fans, but he is just a choice as a third car for a Monte Carlo.

[KKS]

now Hyundai looks realy bad, specifically here
two tarmac experts not shine


Lucky escape?
http://ewrc-results.com/quickp/13901_bzfppkgciaaltpq.jpg
where you get that pic?

[stefanvv]

I didn't follow rally today, I just came back and checked all-day activity. Well dear colleagues, nobody is praising R.Kubica !! My god, this is the event of his life ! Very consisting times, practically no mistakes, the fastest Ford, catching Sordo !! Well this is magnificent. Just keep on doing Robert.
Second to mention (my big love)-911's! Just imagine to have both drivers (sorry for Delecour, the accident was nasty one...) in non-restricted cars....
Third to mention- Kevin Abbring. Pray to get him to the finish....
But what is wrong with Neuville?? And the choice which made Hyundai with Bouffier turned out to be completely wrong. I hope I didn't offense his fans, but he is just a choice as a third car for a Monte Carlo.

Completetly agree with everything. Neuville - hmm. Probably this is not Hyundai's Rally, All drivers except Sordo are complaining with hard suspension couldn't make it work right. May be it is just technical?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I didn't follow rally today, I just came back and checked all-day activity. Well dear colleagues, nobody is praising R.Kubica !! My god, this is the event of his life ! Very consisting times, practically no mistakes, the fastest Ford, catching Sordo !! Well this is magnificent. Just keep on doing Robert.


Considering this is his best surface its about time he put in a decent performance. 'Practically no mistakes' ... you mean for him, just because he hasnt crashed off (yet).

I wish Kubica well, but I think his team-mate Evans has been more impressive in terms of improvement and consistency.

[stefanvv]

where you get that pic?

"http://ewrc-results.com/quickp/13901_bzfppkgciaaltpq.jpg"

[stefanvv]

where you get that pic?

This is at the end of the stage:
http://www.ewrc-results.com/quickp/13901_bzfpsazicaa5r2s.jpg

EDIT: SS9 to be exact