[ERC] Barum Czech Rally Zlín 2014 (29.-31.8. 2014)

[wwbroe]

Breen loosing quite a lot of time in Trojak stage

Edit: he had some alarms on dashboard going on?

[had_zachau]

Some trouble with car

[wwbroe]

Oh no, technical problems for Abbring (engine) in Trojak

[wwbroe]

Doesn't look to good for Peugeot Sport either:(

[bluuford]

(1 - Breen Craig / Martin Scott): was out of road
probably those alarms were due to the off or the opposite

[EightGear]

Oh no, technical problems for Abbring (engine) in Trojak


You're kidding.

[wwbroe]

You're kidding.

No, i am NOT kidding, i hope he can make it to end of tsage, but three more stages to go in loop

[wwbroe]

Wiegand is in, and he started after Kevin, so i am afraid it is over:(

[bluuford]

No, i am NOT kidding, i hope he can make it to end of tsage, but three more stages to go in loop
He has retired already.. unfortunately

[Tom206wrc]

Abbring !!!!! Nooooooo :mad:

[EightGear]

Un-be-lie-va-ble.

Are Peugeot taking their car seriously????

[Tom206wrc]

In Italy and Denmark the 208 T16s are OK in reliability...why not in ERC :confused:

[RS]

Bad stage for the rally, bad stage for Peugeot and Skoda.

Could still be a good result for Breen.

Annoyed with Lappi binning it on Skoda's home event. Now we have only Wiegand and the privateers to rely on.

[mousti]

What a shitty car! Get Abbring out of that car and let him replace Ostberg!

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[had_zachau]

So now it will be Pech vs. Kresta

[EightGear]

Well I'll never be buying a Peugeot.

[Filip]

Problems for Magalhães?

[Tom206wrc]

Well I'll never be buying a Peugeot.



Because you wait for rally results of a car make to buy then your road car :confused:

[Nornbugger]

Gutted for Abbring, he has shown great pace this year.

[Medved]

Magalhaes was of the road

[Nornbugger]

Well I'll never be buying a Peugeot.

I think I am also decided to never buy a 208 T16 ;-)

[EightGear]

Because you wait for rally results of a car make to buy then your road car :confused:

Car makers are in motorsports to sell more cars. To me, Peugeot's reputation has lowered quite a lot this ERC season.

Especially when they manage to screw the lead of one driver 4 times in one season.

[Tom206wrc]

No Breen at the start of SS5 :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Car makers are in motorsports to sell more cars. To me, Peugeot's reputation has lowered quite a lot this ERC season.

Especially when they manage to screw the lead of one driver 4 times in one season.


Has Citroën sold(internationally)lot of cars when Loeb won everything in WRC ??? I don't think so... ;)

[dupanton]

No Breen at the start of SS5 :confused:

Car damaged to heavily, is still on the roadsection and according to rally radio they will not continue...

[Medved]

Barrable probably didn't start into SS5.

[had_zachau]

Barrable R. - Loudon S. Radiator broken before the stage.

[MartijnS]

What a piece of shit that Peugeot..

[focus206]

Unbeliveable season for Abbring :( He deserves much better and I hope he'll get more opportunities in the future...
With Lappi making mistakes and the Peugeot being unreliable, I guess even Wiegand has a chance to become champion

[RS]

Tlustak hits back in his battle with Tanak ;)

[dupanton]

Tlustak hits back in his battle with Tanak ;)

Tanak reported powerloss and brakeproblems on his twitter...

[Tom206wrc]

Cerny lost 2' on Lefèbvre in SS4 :mark:

[Filip]

Václav Pech and Petr Uhel are new/old Czech rally champions.

[RS]

Tanak reported powerloss and brakeproblems on his twitter...

That would explain it. He is really slow, too slow.

[had_zachau]

Ouch trouble for Kresta?? :(

[dupanton]

Kresta exhaust(manifold) problems
Barrable out
Orsak broken rim + puncture
Cerny loses a lot of time

Is there anyone out there without problems??

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS4 just unreal... dont think I've ever seen such drama with the leaders of a rally. :crazy:

retired (10 - Barrable Robert / Loudon Stuart): technical problem - radiator after SS 4
retired (1 - Breen Craig / Martin Scott): retired after SS 4
(8 - Magalhães Bruno / Magalhães Carlos): was out of road
retired (5 - Abbring Kevin / Marshall Sebastian): technical problem - engine in SS 4
(1 - Breen Craig / Martin Scott): was out of road
retired (3 - Lappi Esapekka / Ferm Janne): accident in SS 4

[Medved]

Kresta probably retired after SS5.

[dupanton]

I think you can damage the complete engine with a broken exhaust manifold. Al tough lot of drivers have continue with it in the past I think.

[dupanton]

Kresta stopped on roadsection and out...

[RICARDO75]

Kresta probably retired after SS5.

Yes. He stoped on the road section

[Tom206wrc]

What an unluck for Chris Ingram this event with his new team ;(

[dupanton]

What an unluck for Chris Ingram this event with his new team ;(

Still the same clutchproblem?

[Tom206wrc]

Two punctures in a row for Jan Cerny on SS4 and 5, explaining why he lost so many time(especially in SS4) :mark:

[wwbroe]

Is there some topdriver that is going to finish this rally? Even Wiegand could win this event, what a farce that would be.

[Jarek Z]

Un-be-lie-va-ble.

Are Peugeot taking their car seriously????

This is unbelievable indeed! Those cars cannot even reach 5th stage of a rally! What an epic failure! I keep now my fingers crossed for Magalhaes. I hope at least he can reach the finish line, but I seriously doubt it :(

[wwbroe]

Strong time for Tarabus in SS6, beating Pech and Wiegand

[wwbroe]

Also gutted for Kresta, he was doing a great rally as well.

[wwbroe]

Besttime in WRC4 for Elwis Chentre in SS5, and that with a Fabia R2

[stefanvv]

Loeb "destroyed" WRC they say, now Peugeot are "destroying" ERC. This year's championship is a joke. Looks like next year when Skoda will be on charge again, there will be no "serious competition ahead".

[had_zachau]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10648305_561739287285998_5812880185796736177_o.jpg .

[Jarek Z]

Is there some topdriver that is going to finish this rally? Even Wiegand could win this event, what a farce that would be.

When top drivers continue to retire at this rate then even Renaud Bronkart and his Yaris can win this rally :)

[Jarek Z]

Besttime in WRC4 for Elwis Chentre in SS5, and that with a Fabia R2

Yes, he was second on this stage, but his previous stage times are very disappointing.

[WUff1]

Loeb "destroyed" WRC they say, now Peugeot are "destroying" ERC. This year's championship is a joke. Looks like next year when Skoda will be on charge again, there will be no "serious competition ahead".

right!

[Tom206wrc]

Incredible, after SS5 Ekaterina Stratieva is leading the "girls championship" ;)

[Jarek Z]

For statistics:

Official Peugeot team results in this year's ERC:

Breen:
1st place
3rd place
retired (mechanical problem)
retired (mechanical problem)
retired (mechanical problem)
retired (mechanical problem)

Abbring:
retired (mechanical problem)
retired (mechanical problem)
2nd place
retired (mechanical problem)
retired (mechanical problem)
retired (mechanical problem)

This is sad.

[had_zachau]

Tarabus was out of the road

[WUff1]

Tarabus was out of the road


and lost 1:44 on crazy Pech ...

[RS]

Is there anyone out there without problems??

Kopecky?

[noel157]

Another good video, qually ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hODh4n30UyE&list=UUWXaB2BG1SnEuHXIpIAMBww

Camera man gets distracted very easily....... : )

[RICARDO75]

Ingram lost a lot of time again

[dupanton]

Steering problems now...

[RICARDO75]

Magalhães also lost almost 2 minutes

[Tom206wrc]

Besttime in WRC4 for Elwis Chentre in SS5, and that with a Fabia R2


But problem in SS6 for him(no time) :confused:

[focus206]

When top drivers continue to retire at this rate then even Renaud Bronkart and his Yaris can win this rally :)
I always wanted to know more about him, he's a hero :D
And as I said, Wiegand should be in a really good position in the ERC standings if he finishes this rally...

[noel157]

Breen off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1pW4U1zlWk

[Jarek Z]

I always wanted to know more about him, he's a hero :D

Yes, he is a hero and also a very nice guy. I talked to him a few years ago when he was still driving Nissan Micra (even more spectacular car! ;) ). Good luck to him! I have great respect for all the privateers competing in ERC, because I know how difficult it is.

http://i60.servimg.com/u/f60/12/10/43/06/photo_10.jpg

[Jarek Z]

More bad news from Barum Rally:
Elwis Chentre retired due to technical problem with engine on SS 6 :(
What's going on on this event?!

[bluuford]

For statistics:

Official Peugeot team results in this year's ERC:

Breen:
1st place
3rd place
retired (mechanical problem)
retired (mechanical problem)
retired (mechanical problem)
retired (mechanical problem)

Abbring:
retired (mechanical problem)
retired (mechanical problem)
2nd place
retired (mechanical problem)
retired (mechanical problem)
retired (mechanical problem)

This is sad.

I would not call last Breen retirement as a Mechanical.. ok, it was mechanical but it was his own fault. Similar situation in Ypres. But with Abbring.. it is really sad indeed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1pW4U1zlWk

[Medved]

Unofficial information - Magalhaes has a gearbox problem.

[RICARDO75]

Unofficial information - Magalhaes has a gearbox problem.

Yes. It was stuck on fifth gear

[EightGear]

For statistics:

Official Peugeot team results in this year's ERC:

Breen:
1st place
3rd place
retired (mechanical problem)
retired (mechanical problem)
retired (mechanical problem)
retired (mechanical problem)

Abbring:
retired (mechanical problem)
retired (mechanical problem)
2nd place
retired (mechanical problem)
retired (mechanical problem)
retired (mechanical problem)

This is sad.

Abbring has only done 5 events, so there's 1 retirement too much in your list. ;)

But if (or rather, when) the 208 falls apart on Corsica, you may already have summed up his season.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

With the Breen crash, the camera helicopter was all over him, and in front of the car just before the off... surely they shouldn't be allowed to potentially distract a driver like this...

Not saying this was the cause, but concentration must be 100% at these speeds.

[RS]

I always wanted to know more about him, he's a hero :D
And as I said, Wiegand should be in a really good position in the ERC standings if he finishes this rally...

Not quite like it seems - the championship is split into two halfs, and Lappi has a much better score from the first half of the championship.

[stefanvv]

right!

Right, left, the situation is sad. SOme people are even watching the QS over and over again hungry for some action.

[bluuford]

With the Breen crash, the camera helicopter was all over him, and in front of the car just before the off... surely they shouldn't be allowed to potentially distract a driver like this...

Not saying this was the cause, but concentration must be 100% at these speeds.

You shoud choose new profession when you are getting distracted from such a small things (helicopters, spectators, clouds, rain.. etc. ). It was clear over the limit, nothing else. He wants to fight for the win but the car and his skills were not good enough.

[WUff1]

Very sorry for Abbring, but shame on Peugeot. They´re destroying ERC.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

such a small things

A helicopter swinging around you is a bit different to normal static scenes like spectators.

Breen is not making any excuses but it cant have helped.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Camera man gets distracted very easily....... : )

Cameramen do ... there's a car there somewhere.. :D

http://d3jw5gs1mh13h6.cloudfront.net/uploads/photobank/seasons/2014/events/22_Czech%20Republic/day1/big2/big2_134_GIRLS.jpg

http://d3jw5gs1mh13h6.cloudfront.net/uploads/photobank/seasons/2014/events/22_Czech%20Republic/day1/big2/big2_127_GIRL.jpg

But here ?

http://d3jw5gs1mh13h6.cloudfront.net/uploads/photobank/seasons/2014/events/22_Czech%20Republic/day1/big2/big2_130_GIRL.jpg

[noel157]

A helicopter swinging around you is a bit different to normal static scenes like spectators.

Breen is not making any excuses but it cant have helped.

Would have to agree with with BF, close chopper activity is normal these days. Drivers just ignore (or should ignore) such things and just drive. Breen looked like he just lost concentration and got off line or perhaps a wrong/misheard note. Unfortunate whatever the reason.

Edit- was it this stage a clock or something fell out of the dash?

[mousti]

I would not call last Breen retirement as a Mechanical.. ok, it was mechanical but it was his own fault. Similar situation in Ypres. But with Abbring.. it is really sad indeed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1pW4U1zlWk

Plus count the positions with it where the were before they got struck with problems..

[had_zachau]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10620508_689090767851666_3180728213787763058_n.jpg ?oh=ab219d8fd3abfe2a961821d990125c4b&oe=5478B123&__gda__=1415448731_6304a035fdb8e83e14f1b578a72b96b e
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10636170_689090811184995_2794631615780494990_n.jpg

[bluuford]

Is it all OK with Breen? He had this back injury and it was pretty strong sideimpact now...

[Rallyper]

Breen off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1pW4U1zlWk

What a shot!!!

[RS]

So did Breen retire with a damaged rollcage or what?

Front of the car looks ok.

[dupanton]

Wiegand lost 24s on the last stage, Pech leading with almost a minute now!

[RICARDO75]

puncture for Wiegand

[WUff1]

... and Valda excluded.

[dupanton]

... and Valda excluded.

retired (18 - Valoušek Pavel / Šlehoferová Martina): excluded - car non compliance with article 255.4.4. Appendix J
Any idea why that is?

[WUff1]

Problems also for Kostka - so Wiegand keeps second position.

[Medved]

I am not sure, but I think "minimum weight of car".

[skarderud]

Sadly for us norwegian fans, petter kristiansen out with broked driveshaft on his fabia R2.

[dupanton]

And Lefebvre punctured losing the lead to Crugnola

[Tom206wrc]

I can't believe the number of punctures on the last stage of the day :eek:
Even Lefèbvre lost the lead in Junior ERC because of that :mark:

[Wim_Impreza]

Sadly for us norwegian fans, petter kristiansen out with broked driveshaft on his fabia R2.

Not only for Norwegian fans, also for me. Petter and his co-driver Ole Kristian Brennum are driving quite spectacular and are so friendly that I support them.

[had_zachau]

Lappi's crash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFh0QrpSn30

[br21]

I'm so sad about Abbring... he is so fast driver, adapting so quickly to car and conditions. But extremely unlucky this season, it's even hard to imagine...
Those reliability problems of Peugeots ruined my pickems totally this season:)

[EightGear]

Abbring will start in Valais as well. Very nice since that wasn't the plan initially.

Source is Seb Marshall's Facebook page.

[Rallyper]

Lappi's crash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFh0QrpSn30

What kind of rally is this? Stages in villages making drivers going out just touching sidewalks...? Pity for Lappi. Should´nt have happened on proper stages.

[Munkvy]

On a positive note, Mark Higgins is doing well in an N4 Subaru. Started a bit slow, but has built up to clearly be the fastest of the R4/N4 cars now and slowly working his way up the leaderboard.

[HarriK]

Breen crash incar: (looks like wet braking point, note was correctly IMO and he put lower gear on just before top of the crest)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmMczibzOro


(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmMczibzOro)

[Nornbugger]

What kind of rally is this? Stages in villages making drivers going out just touching sidewalks...? Pity for Lappi. Should´nt have happened on proper stages.

It was there on the recce, driver error nothing else, plenty to hit off line on any real tar stage anywhere. Shame though as he really should know by now not to push too much early on and to wait for the 208s to do their usual

[RS]

What kind of rally is this? Stages in villages making drivers going out just touching sidewalks...? Pity for Lappi. Should´nt have happened on proper stages.

I think your needle is stuck Rallyper.

Great shame he is out though, he looked damn fast on that stage up to that point. I wonder if he was on a push..

Finn people; what is the word Janne is repeating "pitou pitou", caution?

[Nornbugger]

Butt here

http://d3jw5gs1mh13h6.cloudfront.net/uploads/photobank/seasons/2014/events/22_Czech%20Republic/day1/big2/big2_130_GIRL.jpg

Fixed it for you

[Jeppe]

Finn people; what is the word Janne is repeating "pitou pitou", caution?

Well... It have nothing to do with pace notes ;) ;) It´s something like ´f*ck f*ck´ in finnish. He sounded also very furious which is not common for him. I think they were really in a mission. Such a shame..

[RS]

Thanks Jeppe.

[Juha_Koo]

Next time I hit my finger with a hammer, I'll yell "PITOU!!" ;) :D

[Jarek Z]

Abbring has only done 5 events, so there's 1 retirement too much in your list. ;)

But if (or rather, when) the 208 falls apart on Corsica, you may already have summed up his season.

Yes, you are right. I counted one retirement too much. It is really hard not to get confused with all those numerous retirements :)

[Jarek Z]

The new Subaru of Mark Higgins, who is currently second in ERC Production Cup:

http://d3jw5gs1mh13h6.cloudfront.net/uploads/photobank/seasons/2014/events/22_Czech%20Republic/day2/big2/big2_166_HIGGINS.jpg

[Jarek Z]

Nice shot of Kajto:

http://d3jw5gs1mh13h6.cloudfront.net/uploads/photobank/seasons/2014/events/22_Czech%20Republic/day2/big2/big2_178_KAJETANOWICZ.jpg

[Jarek Z]

Some really nice photos from the first day can be found on the official website of the ERC:
http://www.fiaerc.com/photogallery/list/id/22

[Jarek Z]

In Italy and Denmark the 208 T16s are OK in reliability...why not in ERC :confused:

I don't get it either! Just yesterday Paolo Andreucci won Rally del Friuli and Alessandro Perico (pictured below) was third, both in 208 T16. Andreucci is now second overal in the Italian championship. Why is this car such a disaster in the European Championship?

http://www.autoklub.pl/media/201408/75444-perico.jpg

[stefanvv]

Next time I hit my finger with a hammer, I'll yell "PITOU!!" ;) :D

Which finger exactly do You mean?

[stefanvv]

I don't get it either! Just yesterday Paolo Andreucci won Rally del Friuli and Alessandro Perico (pictured below) was third, both in 208 T16. Andreucci is now second overal in the Italian championship. Why is this car such a disaster in the European Championship?

I'm just wondering, I know Peugeot had limited resources to develop the R5, but is it really that hard to make a reliable car in first place (even not so fast at the beginning)? I guess M. Wilson is the big winner from this. Fiesta also had some issues at the beginning (with the drivetrain if I recall correctly), but looks like they're all sorted out long ago.

[bluuford]

Reports from the stage (by Mirek) say that he measured times for Kopecky and the results...

Any quesses?

...

Fastest on all but one stage he was measuring.

However.. Mirek is sleeping by now because he complained that the car was very boring to spectate :-P

Report ends..

[RS]

Reports from the stage (by Mirek) say that he measured times for Kopecky and the results...

Any quesses?

...

Fastest on all but one stage he was measuring.

However.. Mirek is sleeping by now because he complained that the car was very boring to spectate :-P

Report ends..

Not a surprise, the car looks fast and well sorted in the test videos.

I have to say the Peugeot is more loud and lairy, but it is also unreliable and looks overall unrefined.

[bluuford]

Someone asked why 208 T16 is not falling apart in Italy, Denmark.. I think it is good car on smooth surface where there car is not falling apart. In ERC they must run 100% and most of these tarmac rounds have been pretty punishing for the car (huge cuts in Belgium, bumpy surface in Barum rally etc.) it is not sorted out on gravel as well, specially on fast gravel (as it was visible in Rally-Estonia).

[WUff1]

Odlozilik out?

[WUff1]

Odlozilik out?

OK, he´s here again.

Interesting today with some Czech drivers in reach of their forerunners (Kostka vs Wiegand, Odlozilik (and maybe also Orsak and Tarabus) vs. Kajetanowicz).

Old fox Pech driving the rally home it seems.

[wwbroe]

It is indeed exiting to follow the stage times, a lot of close battles going on.;)

[Medved]

Jelinek - broken wheel on SS6 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzwBBSQ7CNo

[RS]

Someone asked why 208 T16 is not falling apart in Italy, Denmark.. I think it is good car on smooth surface where there car is not falling apart. In ERC they must run 100% and most of these tarmac rounds have been pretty punishing for the car (huge cuts in Belgium, bumpy surface in Barum rally etc.) it is not sorted out on gravel as well, specially on fast gravel (as it was visible in Rally-Estonia).

...So a lack of a proper test programme then.

Just how little testing did they do?

[bluuford]

I think it was lack of proper people as well (engineers, managers, drivers).

[WUff1]

I think it was lack of proper people as well (engineers, managers, drivers).

Maybe they lack an experienced driver for testing (like Kopecky, Loix and Baumschlager at Skoda). They´ve got just the rather young guys of rally academy.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Has the official reason for Abbring's retirement been given yet ? Radiator again ?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwSWc1AIEAACjBW.jpg:large

[dupanton]

Has the official reason for Abbring's retirement been given yet ? Radiator again ?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwSWc1AIEAACjBW.jpg:large

Overheated engine according to Tom B who was there. Possibly the result of a heavy landing after a jump...

[Jarek Z]

Another driver out - Mark Higgins retires due to engine problems. Andras Hadik from Hungary is the new leader in Production Cup.

[Jarek Z]

Kostka managed to overtake Wiegand on SS13!

[RS]

Wiegand really needs to up his game now.

Maybe VW/Skoda would be better to poach Abbring back even if he is the wrong nationality.

[Filip]

Nice fight between Orsák and Tarabus.

[Filip]

Consani and Odložilik out.

[WUff1]

Wiegand really needs to up his game now.

Maybe VW/Skoda would be better to poach Abbring back even if he is the wrong nationality.

Hope they put back Kopecky in ERC next year. Lappi crashes much too often, and Wiegand is just some kind of fellow runner, not too fast, but consistently.
But I also think Skoda told him to bring the car back home at any rate, finally it´s their home ERC run.

[WUff1]

stage stopped

[WUff1]

Wiegand hampered by Consani

[mousti]

Wiegand really needs to up his game now.

Maybe VW/Skoda would be better to poach Abbring back even if he is the wrong nationality.
Wiegand is I think not a future prospect anymore for VW, it's only because Skoda Deutschland he's there not thanks to the Skoda Factory team I think.

[Medved]

SS14 probably cancelled for other crews.

[RS]

Wiegand is I think not a future prospect anymore for VW, it's only because Skoda Deutschland he's there not thanks to the Skoda Factory team I think.

Exactly, but I rather thought VW saw Skoda as a training ground for their future WRC stars.. perhaps it's time to try someone else.

As has been said, Wiegand is not bad at all, but he hasn't shown the spark to be a future WRC top line WRC driver.

[bluuford]

Last stage is running with increasing rain risk..very high risk

[Tom206wrc]

SS14 probably cancelled for other crews.


Therefore some crews from the Junior ERC have their times on SS14 :confused:

[Medved]

Wrong infomation, sorry...

[WUff1]

Kajto surpassed by Orsak and Tarabus on last stage, Tarabus couldn´t catch Orsak

[WUff1]

Congrats to Pech! After loosing win on last stage of Jänner Rallye this year he deserved it this time some kind of way I think. It´s the summit of two very good years for him.

[jolle1982]

And sepp fights back to kostka. Nice

[RS]

Kostka with engine problems apparantely, but still a good result for Wiegand.

- Congratulations to Pech! He was kind of expected to win here but he got the job done.

- Disappointed with Lappi's accident. I think he did have good speed potential here, I still think the Fabia would have been capable of fighting for the win here.

- Some good pace from some Fabia S2000 privateers caught the eye

- Again a disaster for Peugeot. The car has the pace, for the moment at least, but they haven't capitalised.

- Presuming Kopecky made it to the end and Mirek's timings from yesterday were correct, the future looks good for Skoda. Says something when the R5 which hasn't been homologated yet is more reliable and faster than the one(s) which have.

[polo10]

What did Mirek said about skoda R5times yesterday?


Kostka with engine problems apparantely, but still a good result for Wiegand.

- Congratulations to Pech! He was kind of expected to win here but he got the job done.

- Disappointed with Lappi's accident. I think he did have good speed potential here, I still think the Fabia would have been capable of fighting for the win here.

- Some good pace from some Fabia S2000 privateers caught the eye

- Again a disaster for Peugeot. The car has the pace, for the moment at least, but they haven't capitalised.

- Presuming Kopecky made it to the end and Mirek's timings from yesterday were correct, the future looks good for Skoda. Says something when the R5 which hasn't been homologated yet is more reliable and faster than the one(s) which have.

[stefanvv]

What did Mirek said about skoda R5times yesterday?

Fastest on all but 1 stages he had measured.

[polo10]

Thanks

Fastest on all but 1 stages he had measured.

[br21]

It was mechanical failure which made engine overheating and forced Abbring to stop.

[marcosg]

he did land heavily on trojak new jump...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Peugeot-Sport: "The Dutchman went on to claim the next two stages before a problem with a connection to his water pump in the car’s wiring loom forced him to retire."

[WRCstratos]

From the spectators point of view, the Friday is best at Barum Rally ;-) Start ceremony and city stage at night are the things why we go there, the atmosphere at the bus station at night is just amazing! The stages are in my opinion more interesting to drive yourself than to watch. Very challenging, very fast and therefore dangerous. Difficult to find good places as a non-accreditated filmer.

But I guess my video is not bad, I'm really satisfied with it ;-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTPgbtAEXJs

[RS]

Some great footage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqX_IuzGbaQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8JP8oaATFk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgTLd17C6Vw

[MartijnS]

Helicopter shots are great!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Some great footage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqX_IuzGbaQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgTLd17C6Vw

Great videos and best of all, *pure sound* with no bloody commentator spoiling it !! :D

[Mirek]

What kind of rally is this? Stages in villages making drivers going out just touching sidewalks...? Pity for Lappi. Should´nt have happened on proper stages.

Do You realize that there is 6x higher population density in CZ than in Sweden? There are no stages without passing villages. It's almost same with whole central Europe and basically in any asphalt country. On Troják it's two villages on a 22 km long stage and Lappi isn't first to crash there but many more crashed in forest. So what about making the stages out of forests?


I can't believe the number of punctures on the last stage of the day :eek:
Even Lefèbvre lost the lead in Junior ERC because of that :mark:

One curious point. When me and Pluto spoke with Chris Ingram during scrutineering he said he doesn't believe in too many punctures here. He was here for the first time so it's interesting to see the first impressions (although from the past we know it's opposite).

[Mirek]

retired (18 - Valoušek Pavel / Šlehoferová Martina): excluded - car non compliance with article 255.4.4. Appendix J
Any idea why that is?

As far as I heard the reason was that the car was OK weight without the crew (1200 kg limit) but bellow the limit for a car including crew (1360 kg). Martina Šlehoferová (Škardová) is rather small and slim (some people said today that she was under 50 kg). Stupid mistake anyway.


On a positive note, Mark Higgins is doing well in an N4 Subaru. Started a bit slow, but has built up to clearly be the fastest of the R4/N4 cars now and slowly working his way up the leaderboard.

The car was disappointing for me. The engine was loud but appeared really weak compared to the Lancers. On the city stage when Mark was overtaken by Březík the difference was huge.

[EightGear]

Peugeot-Sport: "The Dutchman went on to claim the next two stages before a problem with a connection to his water pump in the car’s wiring loom forced him to retire."
Isn't that exactly the same issue which caused him trouble on the Acropolis and in Ireland?

[Mirek]

So the rally is over and here are my impressions. It wasn't the best rally I have visited but it wasn't bad at all. The obvious downside was huge number of early retirements among the top crews. Despite that the fight lasted till the last meter for almost whole top ten so there was still a lot to watch!

Qualification stage/shakedown
We took my favorite place at the exit of the village with a long left one with cut following by an S turn over a bridge (left to right) with a big bump in the cut to the right one. Very nice action there! Since his first pass Tänak was driving with some completely crazy sideways sliding in a rather high speed. Whether it was due to the tyres or his driving I don't know but it was clear he can't be really fast this way (although very spectacular). Abbring and Kostka drove a bit different than others. Braking and accelerating earlier (slower in but faster out). Orsák had a huge moment at the bump in second free run. he was driving much slower in the qualification. Kresta had a small off in the qualification run so he ended pretty low. Another one with a huge moment from the bump was Kobliha but anyway it was clear he is going to show some serious effort!

City stage
As usually the best show was from historic cars. Béreš managed to destroy his tyres on some 6 kilometers to the state that he was throwing sparks everywhere :D From modern ones Abbring and Pech looked really confident throwing the cars sideways already before the hairpins. However Kopecký was the only one who was driving really long drifts as he was not pushing for time there. Simpson also drove quite a lot for spectators. Pity for Jakeš, first PSA R5 broke already there. Two strange moments. One was crash of Suchý near the bus station and the other was near frontal crash of Vágner and Lefevbre. Vágner spun and pushed the throttle to turn back into his direction when Lefevbre came directly against him. Despite the headlights shining in his face Lefevbre managed to avoid the crash! That was really scary moment!

SS1 Slušovice
I took another of my favorite places but for the first time in this direction. It was a long fast left corner after an RPM limiter approach with a big cut over a bank inside. This was awesome place! The first drivers were probably surprised because the rear axles of many cars were kicked in the air (Lappi, Breen for example). Crugnola had a big moment there when he didn't cut but the dirt almost made him crash in high speed. Another interesting thing was Kresta's suspension which appeared to be by far the best of all cars to me.

SS3 Troják
We decided to take the new jump over the road. Very crowded, supersafely taped and quite boring place in fact. Only Tänak made a big jump (and almost lost control there) and Abbring had a scary moment when he jumped a bit sideways with a heavy landing. Maybe the overheating had something to do with this as well. Odložilík lost rear bumper and that was all what happened before we left. Again have to mention Kresta's suspension as his car landed very smoothly and straight compared to the most of others.

SS6 Slušovice
A corner just few hundred meters after the first one. Fast left with a cut against a bridge with very fast approach. This was another perfect place! Basically everybody who cut the corner ended on two wheels including all top drivers except Valoušek who drove some very strange line in the middle of the road. Romanian Clio driver Filip had a big moment there.

SS8 Troják
We took a corner just before last year's crash place of Lappi. It's a sharp left corner in a downhill which is inclined out. Sometimes there are offs there (some 208 R2 was there in first run) but when we were there nothing happened except one unintentional slide by Odložilík.

SS11 Pindula
We walked deep in the forests to a long and narrow hairpin which was completely covered by mud. Unfortunately almost all drivers took the place very carefully. Only Pech, Wiegand and Janecký (with little 1400 ccm Fabia) made some nice sliding there.

SS14 Pindula
We went a bit farther to a place where Kresta had a massive crash in 2008 but now it was opposite direction. Still very fast place with a short right corner with a muddy cut. Orsák and Tarabus looked pushing the most (also Tänak looked really fast there). Suddenly we heard a bang from a corner before. We run there and it was Odložilík who lost it in a left-hand 3rd gear corner and hit a tree directly at the roadside. It was quite big impact on the right rear wheel and the car rotated 180° degrees after that. Co-driver was feeling sick so it was safer to send there ambulance. Kajto, Wiegand and Kostka lost some 1-2 seconds there when a friend with a nearest marshal slowed them a bit not to hit the car. Another crews came slowly under yellow flags before the ambulance came. Another few crews went slowly but Crugnola and Griebel were pushing. That was very dangerous both because of some spectators on the road and also because they could have caught the ambulance passing quite slowly just few minutes before them. After another few minutes the stage was restarted.

All in all I'm really happy that Czech crews managed to give more than a hard time to the ERC regulars. I felt very sorry for Kresta. He was doing an amazing job and I'm pretty sure he had the speed to win (not sure about fight with Abbring if he lasted). The disappointment was obviously Tänak and Kajetanowicz. Tänak was driving crazy (but quite not effective on asphalt) so at least he was very spectacular but Kajto was near invisible where I was.

In 2WD I was really happy for young driver Kobliha who won in a great style despite having only little experience with the car. From juniors Lefevbre was obviously the king. He was not driving so crazy like in Ypres. A bit calmer and more precise I would say. Again Opel Adam showed fantastic chassis on the rough road and helped Griebel to take the second place. Černý was another disappointment. He wanted to win but he was pushing probably too much making plenty of mistakes.

[marcosg]

Since his first pass Tänak was driving with some completely crazy sideways sliding in a rather high speed. Whether it was due to the tyres or his driving I don't know but it was clear he can't be really fast this way (although very spectacular).

i noticed the same and i also think it can be due to tires



We decided to take the new jump over the road. Very crowded, supersafely taped and quite boring place in fact.
Again have to mention Kresta's suspension as his car landed very smoothly and straight compared to the most of others.

i agree it was boring place because it was dificult to find a good place to spectate...

you maybe right about kresta suspension but for me he was the one who took it best also... really nice braking aproach and really nice "flight" and landing



I felt very sorry for Kresta. He was doing an amazing job and I'm pretty sure he had the speed to win (not sure about fight with Abbring if he lasted).

i'm happy with pech's win, he is always my favorite for the win when he has the car to do it, but i'm also sad for kresta... he was doing amazing job, somewhat surprised me when i saw how good he was doing from early on, so i would be very happy for him too if he would win



Again Opel Adam showed fantastic chassis on the rough road and helped Griebel to take the second place. erný was another disappointment. He wanted to win but he was pushing probably too much making plenty of mistakes.

i've been noticing that the adam handles really well indeed and it's a nice surprise after the bad corsas (s1600 and s2000)... unlike c2 r2 for example, it seems wider and lower, thus making it easier in big cuts and high speed corners (maybe also nice suspension)...

cerny was under lot of pressure to show good result at home to keep his championship lead, and maybe he couldn't manage it... and then the punctures (result of his mistakes) put an end to his hopes of wining...

once again barum proved to be a top event in the championship, and like many years in the past, always interesting from the begining to the finish!

[Mirek]

Have to give thumb up to Eurosport for taking shots in very nice places and for sharing videos with pure engine sound!

[Mirek]

Guys, I was told that today mediasport onboards from first leg shall be available abroad. Try that ;)

http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy.html

Second leg onboards shall be available for foreign IPs tomorrow.

The author already posted this video in the video thread but I think it shall be here too as it's great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tls0YxlpfE8

[uranium]

Qualification stage/shakedown
We took my favorite place at the exit of the village with a long left one with cut following by an S turn over a bridge (left to right) with a big bump in the cut to the right one. Very nice action there!

I was in the same place :) Agree. Nice point.

As for SSS in Zlin I was surprised how many peoples were there! it was really hard task
to find any place, where you can see smth. Eventually found near start. Not perfect, but at least some fun with railway crossing :)

Especially, a lot of fun from historical cars :)

[Mirek]

Nice "artistic" movie from Eurosport :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhhf-RCfgNc&list=UUmvH9672W7cW6AsmGqjdwig

[marcosg]

mirek, sry to ask again, but do you think kopecky would win against himself in the s2000?

[Mirek]

mirek, sry to ask again, but do you think kopecky would win against himself in the s2000?

Frankly I don't know. If there was really huge difference between the cars I would say yes or no but it's not like that.

[EightGear]

Guys, I was told that today mediasport onboards from first leg shall be available abroad. Try that ;)

http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy.html

Second leg onboards shall be available for foreign IPs tomorrow.

The author already posted this video in the video thread but I think it shall be here too as it's great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tls0YxlpfE8
I can see only qualifying stage onboards and 1 onboard of Valousek on SS5.

[Mirek]

Jaromír Tarabus was awarded the Colin McRae Flat Out Trophy. He won 2nd leg classification, 4 stages overall and after 1:40 in the ditch he finished with an overall loss 1:13.

By the way stage wins: Tarabus 4, Abbring 3, Pech 3, Lappi 3, Kresta 1, Orsák 1


I can see only qualifying stage onboards and 1 onboard of Valousek on SS5.

Aha, hopefully more comes today and tomorrow. Everything shall be available sooner or later...

[Mirek]

A video with huge number of offs and mistakes in one single shakedown corner...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC3ZVTZgoqA

[marcosg]

Incredible onboard from Abbring

Big Big moment @8:45

http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/6869.html

[wwbroe]

Incredible onboard from Abbring

Big Big moment @8:45

http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/6869.html

Very nice action indeed, Kevin clearly very much going for it.;)

[Mirek]

That's boring spectator stage (except the part out of the circuit) ;)

Check for example this one from Semetín. That's a truckload of adrenaline!

http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/6919.html

[marcosg]

That's boring spectator stage (except the part out of the circuit) ;)

Check for example this one from Semetín. That's a truckload of adrenaline!

http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/6919.html
Yeap... I usually go 300m after the last junction to a flat right after crest with huge cut that they do flat out and then go on the rev limiter :)

Semetin is my favorite stage from Barum! For those of you that have RBR you can be sure that the stage is really well made and almost 100% like the real one...

Pech usually is very fast here and this year he won both runs and always in spectacular fashion

[wwbroe]

That's boring spectator stage (except the part out of the circuit) ;)

Check for example this one from Semetín. That's a truckload of adrenaline!

http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/6919.html

I completely agree with you Mirek, but unfortunally Kevin never made it into Semetin stage.:(

[dupanton]

Codriver error? (my czech isn't perfect :p )

http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/6934.html

[PLuto]

The car was disappointing for me. The engine was loud but appeared really weak compared to the Lancers. On the city stage when Mark was overtaken by Březík the difference was huge.

They had problem with engine on the test before rally, thats why engine revs were choked (at least on beginning).

[Ondra WRC]

My photos: http://www.motolevel.com/fotogalerie-13628-barum-czech-rally-zlin-2014-foto-ondra-krajca

[fansosek]

My video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_X-JFAlytI

[Mirek]

They had problem with engine on the test before rally, thats why engine revs were choked (at least on beginning).

Thanks for the info. First what came to my mind was if in CZ we had so obviously illegal cars :D

[Mirek]

Codriver error? (my czech isn't perfect :p )

http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/6934.html

No, he gave the notes correctly including a "caution". Driver's error this time.

[tommeke_B]

Great event again, glad to have been back again after the editions of '09 and '10. The stages are stunning. This year we drove the complete version of Pindula in the dusk on thursday night, it's crazy to drive even with a normal car at normal speed!

Friday some nice fast corners on shakedown/QS. Still hoping to let the "normal" shakedown-system make it's comeback for all drivers next year... Tanak and Consani were very impressive to see, he threw the car sideways before corners already, I'm not sure it was effective but it was really nice to see. Interesting was official Peugeot's hitting the ground with the chassis in one corner, while noone of the other cars did this. They hitted the tarmac, but the 208's kept more stable than other cars (except Skoda's) anyway. On ceremonial start and the city stage the atmosphere was great, as always! The action started off a bit strange with the old Bugatti show, not my thing, but better than nothing I guess? Amazing to see the S1 E2 Quattro from Beres in real, what a beast of a car! Of course many other great cars in the Star Rally, pitty the itinerary doesn't really allow you to see them on saturday without missing action from ERC.

On saturday we did 4 stages. Started off on Slusovice on a fast bumpy left one. All was OK until some safety-car moved everyone away, even if they were 20-30m away from the road on a completely safe place. Found some downhill medium-right, it wasn't bad but not great either. Then we went to Trojak. Very technical place with a bit slower corners, tricky braking downhill etc. But it proved to be too delicate to be really spectacular. On that place I saw Kevin Abbring retire, all he could comment was "kutzooi", but I was probably the only one who understood that... Then off to Slusovice again for some fast left with cut in forest, followed by long fast right between railguards. Nice place, it was also interesting to see that it wasn't always the quickest to cut deep. For Gr.N and R2 cars this place was very nice too since they became quite unstable when exiting the corner and cut (having some edge between cut and road). We ended the day with Semetin, fast left over sharp crest/jump followed by a little slower right over crest/jump. Tarabus had some big moment there, for other cars big differences between drivers. Wiegand for example was really slow and lost multiple seconds on only these 2 turns. The Fabia R5 was extremely stable and had a very good jump, weight balance looked perfect (while most other cars landed more on the front).

On sunday we did only 2 stages and podium. First was a fast right on Pindula, with some dirty cut. On this place Wiegand looked fast, very different to anything else I've seen from him. Also Pech looked very fast, even while having a solid lead. The other place we did was 2 fast right corners (with cuts) on Zadverice 2. The first one was muddy but dried out before 2nd run already, there were still some cars going sideways. Tanak was very impressive (again), throwing the car sideways already while still braking for the corner.

Other than that not much more to add. Only that Fabia R5 is a extremely boring car to see and hear. The car is extremely stable and very quiet. The sound of the car somehow remembers me of the old Corolla WRC-sound.

http://rally-image.be/foto/0432/images/008.jpg
Consani sideways on free practise run.

http://rally-image.be/foto/0432/images/062.jpg
Tanak on the famous SS Semetin.

http://rally-image.be/foto/0432/images/112.jpg
Kopecky powerdrifting the Fabia R5 test-car on the city stage.

http://rally-image.be/foto/0432/images/001.jpg
Wiegand on SS Pindula.

http://rally-image.be/foto/0432/ - All photos are online here.

[marcosg]

The stages are stunning. This year we drove the complete version of Pindula in the dusk on thursday night, it's crazy to drive even with a normal car at normal speed

Interestingly each year I find more and more reports from people that get completly "hooked up" on these stages after they drive them... even at normal/slow speeds...

It's not easy to "explain" this to others that only watch onboards at home (although they get a quite nice impression)...

These are really quite unique roads...

I'm also into circuit racing, and for me Barum is the Nordschleife of Rallying :)

[dupanton]

No, he gave the notes correctly including a "caution". Driver's error this time.

Thanks for the info Mirek!
It seems the codriver was still talking shortly before the corner as if he realised his mistake. But as I don't understand much of what he was saying...
Anyway a huge pitty. Only brakes a little to late and his chance on victory was gone... Could have challenged Pech till the end I think...

[Jeppe]

Thanks for the info Mirek!
It seems the codriver was still talking shortly before the corner as if he realised his mistake. But as I don't understand much of what he was saying...
Anyway a huge pitty. Only brakes a little to late and his chance on victory was gone... Could have challenged Pech till the end I think...

IMO the Co-driver didn´t have anything to do with this off. It´s all about the Driver when this kind of things happen AFTER the apex of the corner..

..and I don´t understand any Czech but I do understand something of the Driving/Co-driving ;) ;)

Still that was a great shame for the Jaro but maybe it somehow make things easier for him in the rest of the rally (no pressure)??

[dupanton]

IMO the Co-driver didn´t have anything to do with this off. It´s all about the Driver when this kind of things happen AFTER the apex of the corner..



He just arrives to fast, tries to still make the corner but he was just going to fast.
Arriving to fast can be codriver error, here it wasn't apparently :)

[PLuto]

I think it was not published here, but some pictures from afterparty...

Carmen Poenaru and Ekaterina Stratieva
https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10636045_717231671657964_4577498178717130842_n.jpg ?oh=02edf5129b39d43b07021d3361708fd9&oe=5479296B

Seb Marshall and Stuart Loudon
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10600646_717231734991291_7862500384531499458_n.jpg ?oh=00e881e6c9c8b51304ee0524110a2b74&oe=547B0120&__gda__=1416709628_e6b5a3c75a9193bdc6cc000ed5af0d9 b

Martin Hudec, Esapekka Lappi and Jan Regner
https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10649582_717231798324618_7439782289391362909_n.jpg ?oh=58706b40f6e77c1326a613ce95ffcb2d&oe=54817945

Robert Barrable and Kevin Abbring
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10342403_717231838324614_470908495835937190_n.jpg? oh=a0265c1658f78f670c45ed395b1c488b&oe=5472AA6F&__gda__=1417529332_04eeb4160c7b2cf558805e401b32b4a 1

[PLuto]

Marco Cavigioli in jacket
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10614332_717173408330457_5035665415161347816_n.jpg ?oh=10837dd2b2f211e821cdba16181ae4f0&oe=546F47F6&__gda__=1417648284_8cfb93353fdf41927c53c3a0d39cc4b c

Suguru Kawana
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10502281_717167191664412_4798146075193937969_n.jpg ?oh=d5ec572a760cfe402d46bcb38a336118&oe=548240C9&__gda__=1415983217_b27dc27482eb04dbf7a0bc746d367e5 8

Neil Simpson and Scott Martin
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10678814_717167211664410_7176052033049233473_n.jpg ?oh=0b35bfc5ffbe39e718ebe06ec22c59bb&oe=5474E332&__gda__=1416736643_a851e62538ff3da00de995d133816b9 5

[PLuto]

and total view with Ott Tänak in left top corner :)
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10425080_717167408331057_429523207702426356_n.jpg? oh=4d6182abb4beffcdff1bce2b1e891de7&oe=5470BEB7&__gda__=1417312906_bf38dc34939b5f8a1abbbffda827ea9 7

[Mirek]

Wonderful video!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZMkTmQHXrA

[PLuto]

One day on Barum Rally by eyes of one fan...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuVb5sgi3Ec

[sete]

my gallery from Friday and saturday
http://mirousxl.rajce.idnes.cz/Barum_Rally_2014

[Mirek]

Great event again, glad to have been back again after the editions of '09 and '10. The stages are stunning. This year we drove the complete version of Pindula in the dusk on thursday night, it's crazy to drive even with a normal car at normal speed!

And here is the fastest run through Pindula of 2014 :)

http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/6915.html

[Mirek]

I recommend everybody to watch this. It's full onboard of Breen from te stage where he crashed. It's a bit crazy.

http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/6886.html

[stefanvv]

I recommend everybody to watch this. It's full onboard of Breen from te stage where he crashed. It's a bit crazy.

http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/6886.html

What impresses me is that Breen has much more information in the pacenotes than Abring. Probably the first time I watch onboards from the two of them.

[PLuto]

Some nice shots and mistakes from Barum Rally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_-HgtARkrw

[marcosg]

Onboard Best Of

http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/7016.html

[irish_tiger]

I recommend everybody to watch this. It's full onboard of Breen from te stage where he crashed. It's a bit crazy.

http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/6886.html
Was Scott Martin gone away too ahead in the notes when they went off ?

[Mirek]

Onboard Best Of

http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/7016.html

Great stuff :)

[Raven]

Here are photos from my last ever Barum - "zakazany prostor" is killing rallies :(
http://www.rajdy.hoga.pl/galeria/galeria.asp?gid=3702

http://i.hoga.pl/rajdy/galeria/2014/14_barum_mzagorny/20.jpg

[PLuto]

Here are photos from my last ever Barum - "zakazany prostor" is killing rallies :(

Rallies were killing people here. We must put "zakazany prostor" to save rallysport, not to be forbidden. Despite it there is lot of place where you can go and watch the stages without problems. You were not accredited?

[marcosg]

it's true there are many forbiden areas in barum, but nothing too much... you can actually cross the roads and move around in the stages as they are runing... you should come to portugal and see what is a little bit too much... :)

[tommeke_B]

For those who wonder why so many people have similar photos: https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t31.0-8/10669048_844112018940556_7494784316984399413_o.jpg

[Mirek]

A lot of known faces to me... and our friend WRC1 is among them :p

I was standing on the opposite side of the road joking with friends about this white row :D

[irish_tiger]

Was Scott Martin gone away too ahead in the notes when they went off ?

Anybody have a look ?

[Jarek Z]

For those who wonder why so many people have similar photos: https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t31.0-8/10669048_844112018940556_7494784316984399413_o.jpg

What a funny photo! ;)

Yes, it is Daniel over there and I'm almost sure I know at least one more guy from the white row. I'm wondering - if I ask Daniel for a photo will I see you there, Mirek? ;)

[PLuto]

Hmm, I must say that I know most of the photographers personally...

[Mirek]

I'm wondering - if I ask Daniel for a photo will I see you there, Mirek? ;)

No, You won't see me as I was not in the direction they were photographing.

[jolle1982]

And all photographers are sorted by there nationality. Austrian, czech and polish group ;-)

[marcosg]

Anybody have a look ?
yes... buy it's a tuff discussion that will lead nowhere...

I do find breen's pacenotes a bit too detailed, solberg style, wich I dont like...

but it's never what you like and rather what they like that matters so.....

[WRC1]

:) hey guys! yes i was there for sure ;) here my pictures

http://www.rallyepics.at/wp/?page_id=558&album=9&gallery=81

about the jump: it was very interesting to see how "unsure" a lot of drivers where about how to approach that jump, many different solutions...in my opinion tänäk found the best way in 2nd run :)

[Jeppe]

Anybody have a look ?

Yes and IMO not! CB got sooo detailed pace notes and I think that it could be the reason in this off. It´s very hard to understand all the information that co-driver gives you in the fraction of a second..

BTW Scott handles the situation very professionally after the crash - only few hundred meters and he got on the spot again ;)

[Raven]

Rallies were killing people here. We must put "zakazany prostor" to save rallysport, not to be forbidden. Despite it there is lot of place where you can go and watch the stages without problems. You were not accredited?
I know that very well PLuto, but I still think the forbidden areas were too big, too often and sometimes strange. Someone with no media accreditation (like me) was forced to think hard how to take interesting photos.

The best thing about this rally was... cold kofola sold few meters from the special stage ;)

[Mirek]

I sure agree that some safety zones were too large but there were so weird accidents in our rallying that it has a reason. Just look at this accident from Semetín this year with one of the historic cars. Who was ever on that place would agree that the tape was in a more than safe distance but still the car got there...

It's in time 0:11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB5Q5nfZFjY#t=11

[Mirek]

This is the onboard of Roman Kresta from the stage where he was hit by the technical problems. You clearly hear the strange sound and see that there is low power at the end of stage. Still extremely impressive driving!

http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/6921.html

[marcosg]

it was a real pitty he had to retire... he was driving really well...

[Mirek]

If You don't have enough videos...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-06dt9wsjjY

[had_zachau]

Nice video: One Day My Way / Rally Fans / Barum Rally Zlín 2014

http://youtu.be/uuVb5sgi3Ec

[Mirek]

Speaking about cuts :D

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/b_eef121b0d8267c16a1ce15fc35bb15ab.jpg

[stefanvv]

2 wheels look like like are on the road to me

[had_zachau]

Barum rally is HAPPY!

http://youtu.be/NH_sioW4Qy8

[COD]

Barum rally is HAPPY!

http://youtu.be/NH_sioW4Qy8

Best video so far

[wwbroe]

Barum rally is HAPPY!

http://youtu.be/NH_sioW4Qy8

Great video indeed;)

[Plhus]

My Barum Rally:

http://www.src.czechrallyeweb.net/pages/barum2014.htm