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Myrvold
25th October 2018, 12:01
I can see them competing at GRE..


I don't. There's no money in running someone elses spec-cars. OMSE is the RX-version of M-Sport. They need to be a place where they can make cars, sell them, run them for others, sell parts etc.

MrJan
25th October 2018, 13:02
I thought GRE was spec cars or current super cars with BoP?


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Myrvold
25th October 2018, 13:37
I thought GRE was spec cars or current super cars with BoP?


Oups! :erm: I hadn't seen that BoP thing. Then again, there is a serious risk that it ends up like IMSA, that the in-house idea wins the vast majority, as the BoP rarely gives the "normal" cars a good chance.

tbtstt
25th October 2018, 14:09
2019 World RX Calendar:

WRX R1. Abu Dhabi – Yas Marina – 5/6 April
WRX R2. Spain – Barcelona – 27/28 April
WRX R3. Belgium – Spa-Francorchamps – 11/12 May
WRX R4. Great Britain – Silverstone – 25/26 May
WRX R5. Norway – Hell – 15/16 June
WRX R6. Sweden – Höljes – 6/7 July
WRX R7. Canada – Trois-Rivières – 3/4 August
WRX R8. France – Lohéac – 31 August/1 September
WRX R9. Latvia – Riga – 14/15 September
WRX R10. USA – Austin – 28/29 September
WRX R11. South Africa – Cape Town – 30 November/1 December

2019 Euro RX Supercar Calendar:

ERX R1. Great Britain – Silverstone – 25/26 May
ERX R2. Norway – Hell – 15/16 June
ERX R3. Sweden – Höljes – 6/7 July
ERX R4. Germany – Buxtehude – 17/18 August
ERX R5. France – Lohéac – 31 August/1 September
ERX R6. Latvia – Riga – 14/15 September

2019 Euro RX Super1600 Calendar:

S1600 R1. Spain – Barcelona – 27/28 April
S1600 R2. Belgium – Spa-Francorchamps – 11/12 May
S1600 R3. Sweden – Höljes – 6/7 July
S1600 R4. Germany – Buxtehude – 17/18 August
S1600 R5. France – Lohéac – 31 August/1 September
S1600 R6. Latvia – Riga – 14/15 September

deephouse
25th October 2018, 14:13
So again no Ice/snow round... Well it doesn't matter now, when the sport is dying.

tbtstt
25th October 2018, 15:14
So again no Ice/snow round... Well it doesn't matter now, when the sport is dying.
The European or World Championship has never had an ice or snow round: why would they introduce one now?

giu canbera
25th October 2018, 15:38
OMSE is also taking a sabbatical from worldrx 2019!!

Im out... Screw this

deephouse
25th October 2018, 16:12
The European or World Championship has never had an ice or snow round: why would they introduce one now?

New things makes championship even more interesting. WRC didn't have Chile on calendar before (is that mean that they are not allow to be there by your logic?).

tbtstt
25th October 2018, 16:24
New things makes championship even more interesting. WRC didn't have Chile on calendar before (is that mean that they are not allow to be there by your logic?).
I would say that adding a country and changing the fundamentals of a Championship are two different things.

I don't think rallycross doesn't needs "new or interesting" things: it is that which seems to be giving us these festival weekends that none of the fans actually want.

MrJan
25th October 2018, 22:48
Interesting post on another forum highlighting that Montalegre have made a FB post to the effect that they only found out the round was dropped when it was posted today. They also claim to have a contract until 2023. The more I hear about the current trends in World RX the less happy I am to support it, despite having been a keen advocate and fan for the last 4 years.


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Myrvold
28th October 2018, 17:33
The more I hear about the current trends in World RX the less happy I am to support it, despite having been a keen advocate and fan for the last 4 years.


You and me both! My biggest dream as a kid was to be a driver in ERX, not WRC or F1... I really want RX to survive and bi fairly big. However it doesn't look like that'll happen.

tbtstt
31st October 2018, 16:29
GCK will field just two cars in South Africa as the third car is too badly damaged to fix in time. Chichiret and Marklund will be driving, Liam will be watching from the sidelines.

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
1st November 2018, 23:24
Scott Speed will goes to Subie for next year's ARX..

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tbtstt
2nd November 2018, 08:33
Scott Speed will goes to Subie for next year's ARX..
First thought that pops into my head: does this mean that VW won't be back in the ARX next year?

Sub_Skoda
2nd November 2018, 16:54
First thought that pops into my head: does this mean that VW won't be back in the ARX next year?
Andretti Autosport won't be back in the ARX next year according to some websites.

skarderud
8th November 2018, 21:47
Some rumours about some news about WorldRX, what now?
VW quit? End of WRX, back to amateur ERX on good old tracks?:)

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tbtstt
9th November 2018, 08:21
Some rumours about some news about WorldRX, what now?
VW quit? End of WRX, back to amateur ERX on good old tracks?:)

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I think it's a bit soon to be calling the end of World RX; if PSRXVW, EKS, Hansen, GCK, GRX and ES Motorsport all run two cars next year then the permanent entry numbers won't be that dissimilar to this year.

JUF
9th November 2018, 11:27
Timmy Hansen posted a pic on Instagram with the following words: "Opening new doors for the future here in China. Keeping my dream alive."

There are three options now:
-He talked to a Chinese company which might sponsor a private Hansen Team
-He talked to a Chinese manufacturer which might enter World RX
-It has something to do with Ken Block´s visit in China (clash Monster Energy <-> Red Bull tough)

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
9th November 2018, 22:03
Timmy Hansen posted a pic on Instagram with the following words: "Opening new doors for the future here in China. Keeping my dream alive."

There are three options now:
-He talked to a Chinese company which might sponsor a private Hansen Team
-He talked to a Chinese manufacturer which might enter World RX
-It has something to do with Ken Block´s visit in China (clash Monster Energy <-> Red Bull tough)Volvo/Lynk & Co RX campaign..?? xD

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pantealex
14th November 2018, 16:46
Loeb in french magazine:
"For next year they are working on a project with a private team in WRX"

Must be Hansen ? or ?

tbtstt
14th November 2018, 17:28
Loeb in french magazine:
"For next year they are working on a project with a private team in WRX"

Must be Hansen ? or ?
Is that a direct translation? Last I read Loeb was considering a private WRX entry with his own (private) team.

pantealex
14th November 2018, 17:32
Is that a direct translation? Last I read Loeb was considering a private WRX entry with his own (private) team.

I don´t know, I don´t understand french.

Rally Power
14th November 2018, 20:21
Loeb in french magazine:
"For next year they are working on a project with a private team in WRX"
Must be Hansen ? or ?

Actually, the journo says at same point it’s already known that Loeb will be in the WRX with his team and later asked him about it; Loeb responded that it’s not confirmed, although he’s discussing it as he would like to have a major program for next year, completing it with other random events.

Btw, Loeb is testing these days on the former ERX Portuguese track of Lousada (Timmy and Kevin also there). Video: https://youtu.be/ccCTto-bNvU

giu canbera
17th November 2018, 15:23
e-wrx needs 3 manufacturers signed in the next 4 months or "its over" -
https://www.diariomotor.com/competicion/noticia/el-e-wrx-debe-encontrar-tres-fabricantes-en-cuatro-meses-o-no-se-creara-el-campeonato/

Sulland
18th November 2018, 11:31
If not we are back to a cheaper WRX WC dominated by private teams and tuners. Not entirely bad.

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Fast Eddie WRC
22nd November 2018, 10:48
Al-Attiyah to compete in 2019 WRX in a Skoda Fabia Supercar.

https://www.skoda-motorsport.com/en/merc-champion-al-attiyah-to-drive-new-fabia-supercar-in-2019-world-rallycross-championship/

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
23rd November 2018, 14:02
With the new bodyshell..?

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Tarmop
23rd November 2018, 14:51
Bodyshell is the same, it was a facelift.

tommeke_B
23rd November 2018, 15:12
Al-Attiyah to compete in 2019 WRX in a Skoda Fabia Supercar.

https://www.skoda-motorsport.com/en/merc-champion-al-attiyah-to-drive-new-fabia-supercar-in-2019-world-rallycross-championship/

Nice to read that Kevin Abbring is a Belgian driver now.

Fast Eddie WRC
24th November 2018, 13:47
S.Africa Q1 - Loeb fastest and a Peugeot 1-2 with Hansen.

Fast Eddie WRC
25th November 2018, 14:07
Normal service resumed... JK wins qually but on the same points as Loeb.

Final has JK on the front row with Solberg. All 3 Peugeot's make the final on their last outing as a factory team.

T16
25th November 2018, 14:50
JK wins.
Even so, the sport is crap. Not a patch on what it used to be when the cars had different characteristics. Terrible to watch compared to the 80s / 90s.

Fast Eddie WRC
25th November 2018, 16:01
JK wins.
Even so, the sport is crap. Not a patch on what it used to be when the cars had different characteristics. Terrible to watch compared to the 80s / 90s.

So you're an expert on World Rallycross now as well... :rolleyes:

T16
25th November 2018, 16:24
So you're an expert on World Rallycross now as well... :rolleyes:

Eddie, if you’ve seen the 80s and 90s rallycross, be it on TV or in the flesh, you’ll know most of the cars were very different in terms of driving characteristics and power / power delivery.
I would love nothing more than seeing the series become a world force, but it’s just too sterile as the cars as so perfect, they are so evenly matched in all aspects.
Google British Grand Prix rallycross from Brands hatch and you’ll find it hard to disagree.
An expert in nothing I am, but I know a bit about rallying and I’ve spent a lot of time watching rallycross all over the UK and sometimes into Europe, but honestly, I wouldn’t even go if I was flown there to enjoy the finest hospitality these days.

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
25th November 2018, 17:24
Warning: Overdominance & wrong reaction for that can folded WRX for good..

Fortunately the regional RXs are still exciting..(even ARX)

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MrJan
25th November 2018, 18:57
Eddie, if you’ve seen the 80s and 90s rallycross, be it on TV or in the flesh, you’ll know most of the cars were very different in terms of driving characteristics and power / power delivery.
I would love nothing more than seeing the series become a world force, but it’s just too sterile as the cars as so perfect, they are so evenly matched in all aspects.
Google British Grand Prix rallycross from Brands hatch and you’ll find it hard to disagree.
An expert in nothing I am, but I know a bit about rallying and I’ve spent a lot of time watching rallycross all over the UK and sometimes into Europe, but honestly, I wouldn’t even go if I was flown there to enjoy the finest hospitality these days.

Shock news! Motorsport has developed.

What you're saying about rallycross applies virtually across the board in motorsport. F1 cars all look the same, touring cars are virtually one make series, there's little difference between the top cars in rallying, and so on.

T16
25th November 2018, 19:42
Shock news! Motorsport has developed.

What you're saying about rallycross applies virtually across the board in motorsport. F1 cars all look the same, touring cars are virtually one make series, there's little difference between the top cars in rallying, and so on.

So what if it has developed?

Rallying is better to watch than it has been for ages.
Rallycross isn't a patch on what it used to be as a spectacle.

Development doesn't mean it's better, or are you trying to argue that it does?

deephouse
25th November 2018, 20:45
The fu... Ekstrom retiring from RX... Bakkerud again without a drive. Nobody have no motivation against VW. Stupid competition....

stefanvv
25th November 2018, 21:18
Finally. I was expecting it.

MrJan
25th November 2018, 21:34
Rallying is better to watch than it has been for ages.
Rallycross isn't a patch on what it used to be as a spectacle.

Is that really the case though? I completely agree that the cars aren't nearly as exciting and don't sound even a fraction as good, but all the retro races I watch seem to be pretty tame, certainly no more exciting than races we've had this season.

Edit: BTW I'm not necessarily saying that current crop is better, just questioning whether the 80s were really that good other than having stuff like 6R4s

T16
25th November 2018, 22:03
Is that really the case though? I completely agree that the cars aren't nearly as exciting and don't sound even a fraction as good, but all the retro races I watch seem to be pretty tame, certainly no more exciting than races we've had this season.

Edit: BTW I'm not necessarily saying that current crop is better, just questioning whether the 80s were really that good other than having stuff like 6R4s

When you ask ‘is it really though’.... are you on about rallying being better or rallycross being worse? Either way, yes to both.

You made the point that motorsport catagories have developed.. what’s that got to do with spectacle?

And you shouldn’t, at all, compare current retro rallycross with what used to occur, because it was fantastic, proper, on the edge stuff.

Have you seen any of the 80s / 90s rallycross in the flesh? Or even on YouTube etc? Just watch any rallycross GP from Brands... I just wish the promoters could see what’s happening before it’s too late.

To put it into perspective, it wouldn’t even have been a better year, by much, even if there was a different winner every round.
The cars are just too efficient and similar across all performance indicators.

It’s serving a fan-boy market at present, but I can’t see it lasting as those who watch it will soon realise that are seeing the same shit every race event.

Give me Gollop, Schanche, Holm, Nittimaki (I think), 6R4, RS200 and a Turbo16 any day over these guys. You would literally hold your breath from the green light until the moment the flag dropped.

MrJan
26th November 2018, 13:16
When you ask ‘is it really though’.... are you on about rallying being better or rallycross being worse? Either way, yes to both.

You made the point that motorsport catagories have developed.. what’s that got to do with spectacle?

And you shouldn’t, at all, compare current retro rallycross with what used to occur, because it was fantastic, proper, on the edge stuff.

Have you seen any of the 80s / 90s rallycross in the flesh? Or even on YouTube etc? Just watch any rallycross GP from Brands... I just wish the promoters could see what’s happening before it’s too late.

To put it into perspective, it wouldn’t even have been a better year, by much, even if there was a different winner every round.
The cars are just too efficient and similar across all performance indicators.

It’s serving a fan-boy market at present, but I can’t see it lasting as those who watch it will soon realise that are seeing the same shit every race event.

Give me Gollop, Schanche, Holm, Nittimaki (I think), 6R4, RS200 and a Turbo16 any day over these guys. You would literally hold your breath from the green light until the moment the flag dropped.

I should clarify, when I referred to retro rallycross, I didn't mean Retro Rallycross, rather the old footage of Group B stuff. The actual racing that I've seen really isn't that great although, as above, the cars were definitely more exciting to watch.

No I haven't seen it live, but I've watched a reasonable amount on YouTube etc. and races really don't look any closer than what we've seen this season.

Fast Eddie WRC
26th November 2018, 18:13
I well remember watching rallycross back in the 80/90's and yes, it was great. The cars were crazy and specacular and there was a real variety.

But like in other motorsport, everything progesses. And just like WRC where all the cars are little hatchbacks, the cars become more similar and the Regs dont allow for a variety of styles. Drivers have become way more professional and Teams more efficient due to cash restraints.

Modern WRX may not be like the old days but its what we have and I try to enjoy it anyway. If its good enough for Mssrs Solberg & Loeb, it cant be that bad.

Duvel
26th November 2018, 19:05
I do believe 80's/90's RX was a lot more exiting. Cars where not tha efficient like they are now, wich resulted in more wild action i guess.
What we are seeing now is super efficient little bombs, whit some of the best drivers in them, Some races still have the action we all hope for (like semi final 2 at mettet this year), but looking at the greater picture i think the exitment has dropped.

Full works teams are very nice? but when they leave they could well leave the sport in a serius dip

tbtstt
27th November 2018, 16:22
I don't think this season has been the most memorable in the (short) history of World Rallycross, but I do think that what Kristoffersson has achieved in 2018 is being sold short based on how strong the PSRXVW Polo was in 2017.

I personally think that the PSRXVW, EKS and Peugeot Total cars were all much closer this year (I would say the battle for second place is evidence of this). Discounting victory at Barcelona, Johan has outperformed every other driver out on track this year and, when you consider who was in the top seven cars, that's pretty bloody impressive.

For me the biggest issue this year was the tracks. They have been slowly straying away from the traditional venues (which, to an extent, I can understand), but the replacements have been variable in quality and some (specifically thinking CotA) were bloody awful.

As for spectacle I think the current cars are bloody awesome. Something that is often overlooked when the 80's/90's rose tinted spectacles come out is that, although the cars back there were spectacular, they were also rather unreliable. Like the progression in rally, modern rallycross cars are a lot more reliable as well as being silly quick (as much as people gripe, I would say that is one of the benefits that restrictions have brought). Yeah, driving styles have changed with the technology, but there is still plenty of sideways action.

I have seen a lot of comments online already with people proclaiming the death of World Rallycross next year and I think it's a bit soon to start making sweeping statements like that.

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
28th November 2018, 01:30
I wonder if PSRX will developing the new Polo GTi RX..?

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tbtstt
28th November 2018, 09:50
I wonder if PSRX will developing the new Polo GTi RX..?
The PSRXVW rallycross car will probably carry GTI branding again next year if they are trying to push the new model (it was "Polo GTI" in 2017 and "Polo R" this year).

Still wish that VW would put a Polo R in the showroom though!

Tarmop
28th November 2018, 13:02
Now that the new generation Polo is also out as a R5, there`s a question how long they like to promo their involvment with the older chassis, it is good yes, but...

skarderud
28th November 2018, 20:52
http://www.globalrallycross.com/no-teams-entered-for-world-rx-2019/?fbclid=IwAR2e34uJ9pNYHKuf902maY9TzWIpPkqdPqbWlsHm bd-_ko4mb9XB_agLs7s


What is this? No teams in WRX2019, not even VWPSRX?

tbtstt
28th November 2018, 21:25
http://www.globalrallycross.com/no-teams-entered-for-world-rx-2019/?fbclid=IwAR2e34uJ9pNYHKuf902maY9TzWIpPkqdPqbWlsHm bd-_ko4mb9XB_agLs7s


What is this? No teams in WRX2019, not even VWPSRX?
Just seen this article being shared on Facebook. Might be true, but I am very dubious about the source. Never seen any credible stories from this website before.

Tarmop
28th November 2018, 21:41
Seems very logical because racing as an only team with no serious (factory) competition development-budget wise doesn't seem something what VAG wants. Add the fact that its a previous generation model and...

MrJan
29th November 2018, 14:46
Article in autosport apparently quoting Petter as saying IMG need to confirm position re: electric or VW are out. I suspect that they’re out anyway.


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giu canbera
1st December 2018, 12:49
https://www.motorsport.com/world-rx/news/gronholm-loeb-solberg-urge-promoter-action/4307150/

A good article here. And Hmmmmmmmm... the schedule is still open to changes.. maybe.
10 races in Europe, PLEASE! haha

T16
1st December 2018, 13:05
Doesn't read well..

https://www.autosport.com/wrx/news/140453/world-champions-put-pressure-on-world-rx

Fast Eddie WRC
1st December 2018, 13:25
Doesn't read well..

https://www.autosport.com/wrx/news/140453/world-champions-put-pressure-on-world-rx

Reads the same as the previous from Motorsport.com.

The big names are throwing their weight about wanting their own way.

T16
1st December 2018, 13:30
Reads the same as the previous from Motorsport.com.

The big names are throwing their weight about wanting their own way.

Sorry, didn’t see the other post. Thanks for pointing that out!

Sounds like you disagree with them?
Thing is, their weight might just be heavy enough to scrap the whole thing. Hard to argue with what they are saying.... essentially, if it’s not cost effective, they won’t do it. Can’t see why that doesn’t make sense to you.

deephouse
1st December 2018, 22:10
I still think that manus leaving is mostly because of VW. Why would teams pouring money in sport if they can't win a single event... Don't blow all on me now.

MrJan
1st December 2018, 22:29
I still think that manus leaving is mostly because of VW. Why would teams pouring money in sport if they can't win a single event... Don't blow all on me now.

They still spent years trying to beat Citroen in WRC, and plenty try to beat Mercedes.

giu canbera
2nd December 2018, 04:37
Rumours that PSRX will build 2 new chassis for next season. The 2017/18 cars will "not be used again"
(??)

deephouse
2nd December 2018, 07:19
They still spent years trying to beat Citroen in WRC, and plenty try to beat Mercedes.

In WRC Subaru, Mitsubishi, Skoda, Suzuki, Mini even Ford back off with their support. Sure they blame eonomics but why trying if you can't get the titles. And if VW didn't get into the game there the sport could die. Nobody needs dominating teams and drivers nowhere. It's just boring to watch if you can easily predict the results, like this year in WRX. I watch maybe only one or two events but I'm not missing anything for the rest if only name was VW and Kristoff at the end of each event.

WRC is exciting now and that's what is interesting to watch. I hope it stays close as this for the next years too. Don't care anymore if Ogier wins plenty of titles it's just that needs to be NOT dominating all the time.

Fast Eddie WRC
2nd December 2018, 10:47
Sorry, didn’t see the other post. Thanks for pointing that out!

Sounds like you disagree with them?
Thing is, their weight might just be heavy enough to scrap the whole thing. Hard to argue with what they are saying.... essentially, if it’s not cost effective, they won’t do it. Can’t see why that doesn’t make sense to you.

I dont disagree with what they are saying but its the way they do it, like they think they are bigger than the sport.

MrJan
2nd December 2018, 12:01
In WRC Subaru, Mitsubishi, Skoda, Suzuki, Mini even Ford back off with their support. Sure they blame eonomics but why trying if you can't get the titles. And if VW didn't get into the game there the sport could die. Nobody needs dominating teams and drivers nowhere. It's just boring to watch if you can easily predict the results, like this year in WRX. I watch maybe only one or two events but I'm not missing anything for the rest if only name was VW and Kristoff at the end of each event.

Id say that Ford and Subaru are really the only ones that might have pulled out due to Citroen. And Ford have always stayed invested in it with Malcolm, just not full factory.

Skoda and Suzuki were out before Citroen were really at their peak. Mini had a car with potential to challenge but fell out with Prodrive. Mitsubishi changed direction as a company and basically pulled out of all motorsport.


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T16
2nd December 2018, 18:11
I dont disagree with what they are saying but its the way they do it, like they think they are bigger than the sport.

Not trying to argue, but the sport is nothing without competitors. Loeb, Gronholm, Solberg have been around enough to know what’s what (yeah, I get that their interests will always come first), but it does sound like they’ve been shafted and they’ve been shafted by a sport that many are walking away from.
Whichever way you look at it, they do have more power than the promotors at present and, let’s face it, the series can’t exactly tell them to Foxtrott-Oscar right now. Loeb’s comments alone, that people don’t even know he’s participating are pretty damning, to say the least.
My biggest worry is that rallying may find itself in a similar predicament in a couple of years, given the expense of putting a decent team together, but I’m just hoping that the FIA have more of an interest and therefore, will help steer it in a good direction, compared to RX, where they don’t seem that arsed about it at all.

Fast Eddie WRC
5th December 2018, 19:10
COTA dropped for 2019...

http://www.fiaworldrallycross.com/article/10195/world-rx-announces-revised-2019

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
8th December 2018, 04:34
Montalegre & Lydden is in GRC calendar..

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Fast Eddie WRC
13th December 2018, 15:50
€500,000 incentive !

http://www.fiaworldrallycross.com/article/10202/half-million-euro-incentive-for-2019

Fast Eddie WRC
13th December 2018, 15:51
Hansen keen on reviving World RX team after Peugeot exit...

https://www.motorsport.com/world-rx/news/hansen-reviving-team-peugeot-exit/4311682/

deephouse
13th December 2018, 16:43
He admited that if VW stays that beating them is mission impossible. Hope they will gone (and don't spit on me now), so that makes other privateers still in the game. It would be at least interesting to watch if others would step on the podiums or even win.

BleAivano
14th December 2018, 13:42
No PSRX in WRX next season. https://www.facebook.com/PetterSolbergWRX/photos/a.10151957024232922/10157244678947922/?type=3&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARC_wCLd_TerFZifMX4E5ncj1QxWpQJk eOND-PBnFyAZj7PJo4pa8wOfsHhrLPO4cvgWXC2c3Ns5_I-TfriEsGEz6dlij-KQJnvE_FOa6sdqj8pJmSTcjAIUu2QXEytRPclVTAaVdtAK2ZI4 Zn-dZkwOJfLPmtfUZ5zxFc7vFo_9KSVYYsyn2_GnluX9bLH_4Rk_6 XKISLmE6GeAEDiW0yQ7zW2rWLtSFsDN9i-BAxOL0OnhLqNb7xqRA48RExImO2nX8GSzugLBTYiq4rHHWHDFF urmUsJnTfnYbyB8MqowVnf4IJs8yepU2cKvMC869gtoZk_crRh o3RgKVA&__tn__=-R

tbtstt
14th December 2018, 13:48
No PSRX in WRX next season. https://www.facebook.com/PetterSolbergWRX/photos/a.10151957024232922/10157244678947922/?type=3&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARC_wCLd_TerFZifMX4E5ncj1QxWpQJk eOND-PBnFyAZj7PJo4pa8wOfsHhrLPO4cvgWXC2c3Ns5_I-TfriEsGEz6dlij-KQJnvE_FOa6sdqj8pJmSTcjAIUu2QXEytRPclVTAaVdtAK2ZI4 Zn-dZkwOJfLPmtfUZ5zxFc7vFo_9KSVYYsyn2_GnluX9bLH_4Rk_6 XKISLmE6GeAEDiW0yQ7zW2rWLtSFsDN9i-BAxOL0OnhLqNb7xqRA48RExImO2nX8GSzugLBTYiq4rHHWHDFF urmUsJnTfnYbyB8MqowVnf4IJs8yepU2cKvMC869gtoZk_crRh o3RgKVA&__tn__=-R
Not sure if this is saying that Petter isn't back next year or if PSRXVW are out?

tomhlord
14th December 2018, 14:37
In which case, there are opportunities to win for more people now!

tbtstt
14th December 2018, 14:48
This press release clarifies that it is the team who is out for 2019:

https://mailchi.mp/8b6475b38a17/psrx-volkswagen-sweden-pauses-rallycross-programme?e=f22fc1ce7f&fbclid=IwAR2A5ihaqahkOqZiezR2uNuBRmz3M5ZaFGn3MWGg7 9gy9SmtXE-2zaFxH4k

A "pause" on the program rather: awaiting the arrival of electric before returning?

Fast Eddie WRC
14th December 2018, 15:14
Solberg has the new Polo R5 to play with next year.

Tarmop
14th December 2018, 15:17
His son is going to play with it...on professional level, i don`t think he will go on his own. Probably one of VW Motorsports advertisers on those events they take part of.

MrJan
14th December 2018, 16:42
Talks about them concentrating on other motorsports. Wonder if they'll split and have Petter in the R5 and Johann doing more of a touring car assault?

Unsure if this is actually a good thing, certainly leaves it open for the privateers (which is what many of us wanted to see). Good opportunity for the likes of GCK, GRX or a Hansen set up, assume that they're all still about. But we've basically lost 7 cars from the championship which is a huge blow when it was already under subscribed.

deephouse
14th December 2018, 16:53
But ES is entering with Nasser. Don't underrate him. Maybe his Qatar backing could help secure another great driver and Skoda surprise us all. Don't know how much manufacturer is involved in this project or it is completely private. Loeb could be back too with i20 since WTCR programm is filled with 4 drivers (as far as I know this is max. per brand). Wonder where will Bakkerud will fall. Man he is a little unlucky last years. He was doing good in Ford and Audi and both suddenly pulled out.

Sulland
14th December 2018, 18:08
Seems we are nack to ERX, and private teams and tuners.

pantealex
14th December 2018, 18:21
Talks about them concentrating on other motorsports. Wonder if they'll split and have Petter in the R5 and Johann doing more of a touring car assault?

Kristoffersson Motorsport has Polo R5 (and another is coming very soon)

Johan will drive more with R5 than Petter ;)

MrJan
14th December 2018, 20:38
Pretty sure Bakkerud won't be in RX next year, his recent Vlogs have been doing Red Bull young driver stuff and DTM tests so I think Red Bull are trying to shoehorn him into another series.

Myrvold
15th December 2018, 17:48
Pretty sure Bakkerud won't be in RX next year, his recent Vlogs have been doing Red Bull young driver stuff and DTM tests so I think Red Bull are trying to shoehorn him into another series.

The guy has quite a bit of karting experience, so circuit racing wouldn't be too foreign for him.

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
15th December 2018, 18:35
Does anyone know the reason OMSE takes a sabbatical..?

And I wonder if Hayden will going to RX..?

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Fast Eddie WRC
16th December 2018, 15:53
€500,000 incentive !

http://www.fiaworldrallycross.com/article/10202/half-million-euro-incentive-for-2019

Wonder if they are so happy they made this offer now that all the main teams have pulled out ?

deephouse
16th December 2018, 18:55
With actually no WRX event behind them they are in the no man's land. We and they don't know where will be after half of the year. Pretty sure all remaing teams (GRX, Hansen, SL Racing, GCK, Bennett, STARD, MJP, Munnich,...) will be in favor because of experience. Or it will ES domine from the start.

MrJan
17th December 2018, 10:14
Can't see MJP doing much, he's heading up the rival series.

I wonder if it's possible that next year's champion can do so without doing all the flyaway rounds? If someone dominates like JK did this year then in theory they could win the championship and not bother with SA.

N.O.T
17th December 2018, 11:43
Is this joke of a sport dead yet so we can continue with our lives ? or it will plague us in 2019 as well ?

Fast Eddie WRC
18th December 2018, 10:55
@Andrew_Coley
Interesting. @MadsOstberg appears to be @MettetRX track testing on @CooperTireEU today…be a great addition for @FIAWorldRX or #EuroRX.

Hmmm. Are they Skoda wheels?

https://t.co/t4W3oEhYcJ

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
18th December 2018, 11:09
Is this joke of a sport dead yet so we can continue with our lives ? or it will plague us in 2019 as well ?It will still plague us in regional series..

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Myrvold
18th December 2018, 15:46
@Andrew_Coley
Interesting. @MadsOstberg appears to be @MettetRX track testing on @CooperTireEU today…be a great addition for @FIAWorldRX or #EuroRX.

Hmmm. Are they Skoda wheels?

https://t.co/t4W3oEhYcJ

That was actually my idea when I read about him being in Belgium in the other thread here. Both he and Eyvind Brynildsen have talked about RX.

Myrvold
18th December 2018, 15:47
It will still plague us in regional series..

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You know, if you don't watch it, click on the threads or news, you'll easily avoid it!
Problem solved!

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
18th December 2018, 16:45
You know, if you don't watch it, click on the threads or news, you'll easily avoid it!
Problem solved!Umm, I was being sarcastic. And you should reply that to N.O.T instead.

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pantealex
18th December 2018, 19:11
Grönholm is pushing more to WRX

Stard also doing same

I believe both of those are faster than that ES Skoda

Allez Andruet
18th December 2018, 19:30
https://www.rallit.fi/marcus-gronholmilla-hurja-suunnitelma-kun-muut-lopettavat-me-lisataan-panoksia/

Here Grönholm says they might end up running even three cars next year.

Myrvold
18th December 2018, 22:02
Umm, I was being sarcastic. And you should reply that to N.O.T instead.

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Ah, can only see when he is quoted ;)

MrJan
19th December 2018, 00:13
Baumanis with Stard is a good combo, he was regularly the one to be ‘best of the rest’ this season. If they can get to 16 regulars (which is a long way off) it could be a really competitive season.


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Rally Power
20th December 2018, 17:22
Confirmed: Kristoffersson in the WTCR next year, driving a Golf from Sebastien Loeb Raging (VW semi official team in the series). https://www.motorsport.com/wtcr/news/kristoffersson-switches-wtcr-loeb-racing/4315514/

MrJan
21st December 2018, 13:24
Scheider confirmed at Munnich for the full season.
https://twitter.com/ScheiderTimo/status/1076070706180444160

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
21st December 2018, 15:12
Scheider confirmed at Munnich for the full season.
https://twitter.com/ScheiderTimo/status/1076070706180444160All new Ibiza..??

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Fast Eddie WRC
23rd December 2018, 13:29
NEWS | XITE RACING LOOKING TO EXPAND FOR 2019

Read more: https://t.co/Giwr88s7PH

tbtstt
2nd January 2019, 12:16
All new Ibiza..??

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Munnich were developing a new car last year (with a front mounted cooling setup), I wonder if that is what we will see in 2019.

giu canbera
3rd January 2019, 15:57
-So: Scheider, Baumanis, Bennett, Chicherit and Niclas are IN.
- Plus a second GCK and a second GRX entries (Doran-GCK and Timur-GRX?)
...and MAYBE both of these teams could field a 3rd car for certain events. (Loeb-GRX?)
...and Both Munnich and STARD could field a second entry each too). Xite have a Fiesta that could be used in WRX or ERX too.
- Hansen is trying to run a 2 car team too. Maybe the 2018 peugeots?
- ES Motorsport will run one Skoda for sure. MAYBE two?

I was thinking that EuroRX drivers would jump in the WRX at least for the European rounds but that would be pointless if theres no chances of a title if you dont race every event. Money is a big part here. I dont see EuroRX guys having money for the whole season... And they still have an EuroRX "cheaper" title to fight for so....
MAYBE Nitiss, Marklund, Raymond, Larsson, Szabo... But I dont see names like Rustad, Hedstrom, Bryntesson, Linnemann, Walfridson, Jeanney, Grosset, Karai, PalKiss, MDK, Tohill, Dubourg trying the WRX

Myrvold
4th January 2019, 20:25
But I dont see names like Rustad

He got sponsors to do the French round last year as a 50yo - retirement thing. He have now retired, and quite rightly, will not show up for WRX or ERX.

MrJan
6th January 2019, 11:32
The way that the flyaway rounds work is just killer for privateer teams, but I also think that they don't help themselves. Do they all really need the stuff that they take to the European events?

giu canbera
10th January 2019, 14:33
No more RX for Norwegian TV
https://parcferme.no/rallycross/nrk-dropper-rallycross-vm-mens-tv-2-dropper-rally-vm/?fbclid=IwAR2rsUxk1lVowUU0dniBqqtEu5qe7hOyoM3_KNLO daUlQNMcKUWOvB_A1M8
This is bad for Scandinavian sponsors

tbtstt
11th January 2019, 11:59
Timmy and Kevin Hansen will be racing in GRC Europe in 2019. Very surprising move from them.

Myrvold
11th January 2019, 16:24
That might actually be a bigger blow for WRX and ERX than anything else. One thing would've been if Team Hansen had gone down to ERX for a year, but while Kenneth is on the track-group for WRX with FIA, they decide that GRC Europe is better than ERX.

deephouse
11th January 2019, 16:35
The championshp is slowly diying.

tbtstt
11th January 2019, 16:37
That might actually be a bigger blow for WRX and ERX than anything else. One thing would've been if Team Hansen had gone down to ERX for a year, but while Kenneth is on the track-group for WRX with FIA, they decide that GRC Europe is better than ERX.
I have subsequently been told that Kenneth Hansen has plans beyond GRC Europe, so don't rule out seeing Timmy and Kevin in World or Euro RX!

deephouse
11th January 2019, 16:39
The words don't mean anything these days. It could change immediately everything.

MrJan
11th January 2019, 16:41
That might actually be a bigger blow for WRX and ERX than anything else. One thing would've been if Team Hansen had gone down to ERX for a year, but while Kenneth is on the track-group for WRX with FIA, they decide that GRC Europe is better than ERX.

Indeed, if they don't enter World RX then it's a huge loss for the championship.

SubaruNorway
12th January 2019, 10:24
Really good interview with Petter and Oliver.
The Huyndai's were originally meant for Petter to use but when VW came with an offer Petter asked Grönholm if he would like to to take over.

In Norwegian
https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-maafq-a42dfd

tbtstt
14th January 2019, 16:44
Pailler Competition have acquired one of the Peugeot Sport built cars:

https://www.facebook.com/pailler.competition/photos/pcb.2218904535038275/2218893701706025/?type=3&theater

MrJan
17th January 2019, 13:12
Two of the 2017 S1s have a new home with JC Raceteknik...whoever they are.

Tried posting a Facebook link but didn't really work, it's on the EKS page though.

Have read a bit more about JC, seems to have a decent number of prospects in their book of names, including Bryntesson, De Ridder and Evjen.

tbtstt
17th January 2019, 13:40
Two of the 2017 S1s have a new home with JC Raceteknik...whoever they are.
They have been running ex-OMSE Fiestas (in Euro RX and RallyX Nordic) the last couple of years for a few decent drivers, including Thomas Bryntesson.

A good home for those cars.

Fast Eddie WRC
20th January 2019, 10:22
Interesting stuff from STARD about their 2019 spec @FIAWorldRX supercar !

Pretty much all new car based on latest Fiesta with input from @FordPerformance.

https://t.co/tqvkWJoxVg https://t.co/RjlydFWELV

MrJan
20th January 2019, 10:50
So 2 cars confirmed, wonder who the second driver will be?

This is the interesting line for me "STARD has also announced that it is receiving support from Ford Performance for its new 2019 Supercars." Given comments earlier this week that they're still invested in the idea of Electric RX it seems like Ford are trying to get back involved and take advantage of the other manufacturers pulling out.

Tarmop
20th January 2019, 11:55
Ford Performance said it already at the end of 2017, that they like the EV idea and want to take part in it, but there needs to be clarity, when and what. They just didn`t like the idea of developing costly cars for a short period.

Fast Eddie WRC
20th January 2019, 14:10
More here:
https://www.motorsport.com/world-rx/news/stard-ford-performance-supercar-stohl-4325909/4325909/

Fast Eddie WRC
29th January 2019, 18:07
NEWS | FORD WEIGHS UP ELECTRIC RALLYCROSS FUTURE ⚡

"It makes sense as a good place to race full electric cars given what the event is: the performance, the duration and the passion or explosiveness of the cars."

Read More: https://t.co/xMbEV39yYY https://t.co/L8ihGyGWBf

MartijnS
31st January 2019, 11:17
Paddon doing GRC in a Hyundai.

Fast Eddie WRC
31st January 2019, 11:20
Paddon doing GRC in a Hyundai.


This is GRC Europe and will be an all-European championship and shown live on Eurosport.

tbtstt
31st January 2019, 11:25
Paddon doing GRC in a Hyundai.
I think he is doing the GRC in the "Titan" class: it's a spec car with a Hyundai looking shell on it.

Myrvold
31st January 2019, 17:18
I think he is doing the GRC in the "Titan" class: it's a spec car with a Hyundai looking shell on it.

Looks like it, yes.

I feel that Hyundai and Grönholm RX have missed out here.

deephouse
31st January 2019, 20:08
They will be in World RX with real spec Hyundais. Maybe with 3 cars

Mk2 RS2000
31st January 2019, 22:09
I think he is doing the GRC in the "Titan" class: it's a spec car with a Hyundai looking shell on it.
Where better to start testing out Hybrid systems in preparation for WRC 2022

GravelBen
31st January 2019, 23:20
Where better to start testing out Hybrid systems in preparation for WRC 2022

Are they hybrid? I can't find anything about hybrid systems in those cars online, looks like 2.3 ecoboost powered.

Myrvold
1st February 2019, 01:51
They will be in World RX with real spec Hyundais. Maybe with 3 cars

However, Paddon have quite a big following, and a good working relationship with Hyundai NZ. It is a lost opportunity.


Where better to start testing out Hybrid systems in preparation for WRC 2022

Than in a non-hybrid, spec series?

tbtstt
4th February 2019, 11:59
Oliver Bennett confirms full time World RX participation:

http://www.fiaworldrallycross.com/article/10218/bennett-confirms-full-time-entry-for?fbclid=IwAR3hskg4R-ETI5QHthI3t9ZKDmXAERNfitmBtsvKpevfDy9WU_5DWWej3v0

tbtstt
6th February 2019, 10:22
Galli considering a return in 2019:

https://www.motorsport.com/world-rx/news/galli-kia-rio-ggrx-team/4333421/?fbclid=IwAR1Ao9B1pelqrej3pOvi2bsYEmP5bkAaSqKnJ-BKWjomHshFmwt447gY6ck

Myrvold
6th February 2019, 15:53
While the layout for Spa is ready.
https://www.motorsport.com/world-rx/news/spa-reveals-circuit-map-2019/4333669/
https://cdn-8.motorsport.com/images/amp/YEQrQeDY/s6/circuit-layout-world-rx-spa-fr.jpg

I can see so many things I don't like here, from having 2 jumps, so much tarmac, not at least so much tarmac with no gravel in between, and then having a banked corner in the gravel section. So, just set the cars up for tarmac, and have slicks...
Meh. Really disappointed in this.
Also, they had a magnificent chance here to build a proper RX track, with proper gravel sections etc. But instead it will be just like every other new goddamn awful track. Keep digging your own grave WRX.

MrJan
6th February 2019, 20:10
Lydden Hill in anti-clockwise format. GRCE is looking more appealing by the day.

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
7th February 2019, 01:27
While the layout for Spa is ready.
https://www.motorsport.com/world-rx/news/spa-reveals-circuit-map-2019/4333669/
https://cdn-8.motorsport.com/images/amp/YEQrQeDY/s6/circuit-layout-world-rx-spa-fr.jpg

I can see so many things I don't like here, from having 2 jumps, so much tarmac, not at least so much tarmac with no gravel in between, and then having a banked corner in the gravel section. So, just set the cars up for tarmac, and have slicks...
Meh. Really disappointed in this.
Also, they had a magnificent chance here to build a proper RX track, with proper gravel sections etc. But instead it will be just like every other new goddamn awful track. Keep digging your own grave WRX.Does it as short as COTA..?

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deephouse
8th February 2019, 18:16
Gronholm RX will announce their plans next week. They released a teaser video with i20 driving around wrapped in black. People are sugesting that Bakkerud will be there.

tomhlord
11th February 2019, 10:59
In the video, the three drivers are Gronholm, Timerzyanov and Nitišs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-Zw8Ko4Dkk

MrJan
11th February 2019, 14:10
Still plenty of time until the season, but it's still looking fairly light in terms of entries. Really hope that the Hansens bring something to the table and Bakkerud gets a drive.

At the minute it seems that GRCE has more news, although I take a bit of it with a pinch of salt.

tbtstt
11th February 2019, 14:48
Still plenty of time until the season, but it's still looking fairly light in terms of entries. Really hope that the Hansens bring something to the table and Bakkerud gets a drive.

At the minute it seems that GRCE has more news, although I take a bit of it with a pinch of salt.
GCK, Hansen(s) and Bakkerud would make for an interesting season.

I wonder if the rumours about Galli are true and we will see him in 2019 as well.

tomhlord
11th February 2019, 15:33
Galli is basically a press release asking for a driver with a budget to buy a ride from him.

GCK though, they have been quiet and I think without the works cars at the front they and GRX could get some over-due results. Hope they return.

I wonder what Ekstrom is doing this season? I thought he would return to circuit racing with Audi, but so far no announcement.

tbtstt
11th February 2019, 15:42
GCK though, they have been quiet and I think without the works cars at the front they and GRX could get some over-due results. Hope they return.
I personally think there is a massive amount of untapped potential in the GCK Megane: just need the right driver(s) to get the best out of those cars.

MrJan
11th February 2019, 18:05
With the current list, and based on 2018 form, I still think that Baumanis is going to be the one to beat. He was regularly the closest challenger to the factory teams.

I was wondering about Bakkerud and his sponsorship deals. I don't know if he was a Red Bull 'athlete' in the same way that he was at Monster. e.g were Red Bull sponsoring him or the team? If just the latter then presumably he's burnt his bridges with Monster and lost a reasonable cash injection in the process?

Would be great to see him get one of the spaces that's up for grabs, I think he'd be a challenger in either the Stard Fiesta or the GCK Megane.

tbtstt
11th February 2019, 18:16
With the current list, and based on 2018 form, I still think that Baumanis is going to be the one to beat. He was regularly the closest challenger to the factory teams.
Baumanis or Gronholm would be my pick. I thought Niclas was hugely impressive last year.


I was wondering about Bakkerud and his sponsorship deals. I don't know if he was a Red Bull 'athlete' in the same way that he was at Monster. e.g were Red Bull sponsoring him or the team? If just the latter then presumably he's burnt his bridges with Monster and lost a reasonable cash injection in the process?

Would be great to see him get one of the spaces that's up for grabs, I think he'd be a challenger in either the Stard Fiesta or the GCK Megane.
I have heard (from a relatively trustworthy source) that the switch between brands was amicable, so I think he'd be OK to switch back if need be.

Bakkerud in the GCK Megane could be a very interesting combination. I did wonder if Bakkerud might be a possible option for ES Motorsport as well?

Rally Hokkaido
12th February 2019, 10:01
I read a rumour that Hayden Paddon will compete in some EU rounds.

Luijbregts
12th February 2019, 16:15
I read a rumour that Hayden Paddon will compete in some EU rounds.

That is not a rumour. Paddon will compete in GRX championship which has all rounds in Europe.

pantealex
12th February 2019, 17:48
That is not a rumour. Paddon will compete in GRX championship which has all rounds in Europe.

But that GRX has nothing to do with World RX or European RX championships. GRX has own car which you can´t use in WRX/ERX

Luijbregts
12th February 2019, 18:13
But that GRX has nothing to do with World RX or European RX championships. GRX has own car which you can´t use in WRX/ERX

Correct. I have not read anywhere that Paddon will drive outside of GRX. There will be a lot of different championships to follow this year for those who are interested :-) And, my bad, it is not GRX but GRC Europe.

Fast Eddie WRC
14th February 2019, 17:32
@Craig_Breen
Massive thanks to @DerekTohill, I got to experience a Ford Fiesta Supercar at the launch of the #irishrallycross Championship this week....

It's like nothing I have ever experienced! I may have to explore my options in rallycross.

(Full video coming soon) https://t.co/L3j0RSrLX7

Myrvold
21st February 2019, 14:25
Norwegian Pål Vetle Try, a sometimes rally-driver will do selected rounds in World RX 2019, for STARD. The article is from Norway, and behind a pay-wall, so I couldn't see which rounds. Just that he will do some.

EWRC site for the driver: https://www.ewrc-results.com/profile/10439-try-pal-vetle/

NoName
21st February 2019, 18:25
Norwegian Pål Vetle Try, a sometimes rally-driver will do selected rounds in World RX 2019, for STARD. The article is from Norway, and behind a pay-wall, so I couldn't see which rounds. Just that he will do some.

EWRC site for the driver: https://www.ewrc-results.com/profile/10439-try-pal-vetle/

Abu Dhabi, Riga and Spa

He also say this is just to have fun, And travel with sponsors

Myrvold
1st March 2019, 23:14
The entry deadline for FIA WRX have passed now I think. Should come some news then. With emphasis on should.

tbtstt
3rd March 2019, 13:23
Seems like a while since we have had some good news, but I think this is pretty positive:

http://www.fiaworldrallycross.com/article/10234/eks-sport-signs-krisztian-szabo?fbclid=IwAR1nNrK70jqSfIkQrf0ofM3apMDdPz0N3bM IWn33ByxMfuPV37cIXtx6IrI

Kristian Szabo will contest the World Championship in an EKS run Audi S1.

I thought Szabo was very impressive at Loheac last year, I think he might be my new favourite for the title!

pantealex
3rd March 2019, 13:39
Szabo World Champion 2019 ?

NO.

Myrvold
3rd March 2019, 15:35
Seems like a while since we have had some good news, but I think this is pretty positive:

http://www.fiaworldrallycross.com/article/10234/eks-sport-signs-krisztian-szabo?fbclid=IwAR1nNrK70jqSfIkQrf0ofM3apMDdPz0N3bM IWn33ByxMfuPV37cIXtx6IrI

Kristian Szabo will contest the World Championship in an EKS run Audi S1.

I thought Szabo was very impressive at Loheac last year, I think he might be my new favourite for the title!

Positive, yes. But that's what, driver number 6 or 7?

MrJan
3rd March 2019, 20:14
Footage of the Abu Dhabi track out today. It looks better than COTA but don't think it'll be as interesting as Montalege, Lydden or Mettet and sure as s**t won't match up to Estering/Buxtehude. Interesting to see a couple of comments about waiting for the driver list, to which the IMG social media bods said it will be this week and "we think you'll like it". They'll really need to have some surprises for that to be the case for me, if it doesn't include at least 2 GCK drivers, Hansen, Hansen and Bakkerud then I think it'll be very disappointing.

Presumably Szabo is fronting most of the cash rather than a full EKS attempt (which you'd expect to have been with Bakkerud)...or perhaps they're going to announce a second car.

tbtstt
4th March 2019, 13:43
Positive, yes. But that's what, driver number 6 or 7?
Driver (or rather car) eight by my count:

EKS - Krisztian Szabo - Audi S1 (World RX)
ES Motorsport - ? - Skoda Fabia (World RX)
GRX - Niclas Grönholm - Hyundai i20 (Select RX)
GRX - Timur Timerzyanov - Hyundai i20 (Select RX)
Munnich Motorsport - Timo Scheider - Seat Ibiza (World RX)
STARD - Janis Baumanis - Ford Fiesta (World RX)
STARD - ? - Ford Fiesta (World RX)
Xite Racing - Oliver Bennett - MINI Cooper (World RX)

GRX - Reinis Nitišs - Hyundai i20 (Select RX)
Munnich Motorsport - Rene Munnich - Seat Ibiza (Select World RX)

JC Raceteknik - Robin Larsson - Audi S1 (Euro RX)

I have seen a few comments on Facebook suggesting that the full entry list will land midweek.

Abu Dhabi looks to have slightly more going for it than CotA, but that isn't saying much: still looks bland as fuck.

MrJan
5th March 2019, 12:59
GCK announce 4 cars, 2 'new' Meganes and 2 Clios.

http://www.fiaworldrallycross.com/article/10239/gck-launches-four-car-assault-on?fbclid=IwAR1QN4os05xIG5Zcu4nnomr0cTxx6Xa2EpDruY TFGn4EL7AwJyAhxtbG2Gs

tbtstt
5th March 2019, 13:39
GCK announce 4 cars, 2 'new' Meganes and 2 Clios.

http://www.fiaworldrallycross.com/article/10239/gck-launches-four-car-assault-on?fbclid=IwAR1QN4os05xIG5Zcu4nnomr0cTxx6Xa2EpDruY TFGn4EL7AwJyAhxtbG2Gs
I'm not sure how competitive that Clio is: would rather have seen Raymond in the Megane and Marklund in the Clio. Surprised not to see Liam Doran involved as well.

That's definitely given the numbers a big boost though!

Fast Eddie WRC
5th March 2019, 13:47
It's a 2019 Evolution of the Clio RS so may be decent.

Good for numbers and variety in any case.

tbtstt
5th March 2019, 13:53
Notably all four cars to be run by FORS. No more Prodrive, so my expectations of the Megane just dropped somewhat.

Fast Eddie WRC
5th March 2019, 14:35
Anyone heard rumour of Liam Doran with Prodrive ?

tbtstt
5th March 2019, 14:41
Anyone heard rumour of Liam Doran with Prodrive ?
No. That would be very interesting if it's true!

MrJan
5th March 2019, 17:34
No. That would be very interesting if it's true!

I guess that could be possible using the 'third' car depending on whether it was retained by Prodrive. Be very interesting if that were the case to see the battle, I think that Doran in a Prodive Megane would be considerably quicker than Marklund in a FORS Megane...whether he would be as consistent is another matter!

tbtstt
5th March 2019, 17:44
I guess that could be possible using the 'third' car depending on whether it was retained by Prodrive. Be very interesting if that were the case to see the battle, I think that Doran in a Prodive Megane would be considerably quicker than Marklund in a FORS Megane...whether he would be as consistent is another matter!
The third car was supposedly a write off, but I guess Prodrive could resurrect it. As far as I know GCK owned the cars, Prodrive just ran them last year, but perhaps I have that wrong.

Liam also has the ex-JRM (originally Prodrive) MINIs, so I guess there is a slim chance that they could return.

MrJan
5th March 2019, 18:09
Course, forgot that it got totalled in Estering.

tbtstt
6th March 2019, 09:05
ES Motorsport confirm Rokas Baciuska as their driver for 2019:

http://www.fiaworldrallycross.com/article/10242/esmotorsport-labas-gas-confirms-young-gun?fbclid=IwAR2L9TFJCSe4GiLFGFnlMRLjmp5Mte-Rr22YE8SNNw9nNHZGIZVuSAxlqQg

A second Fabia will follow for Kevin Abbring later in the season.

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
6th March 2019, 10:12
And Hansen will join force with MJP..

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T16
6th March 2019, 10:50
Anyone heard rumour of Liam Doran with Prodrive ?

I can't believe people would still consider this oath of a human being as a team member. I guess it shows money talks.

tbtstt
6th March 2019, 11:02
I can't believe people would still consider this oath of a human being as a team member. I guess it shows money talks.
Not defending his off track antics (which have been atrocious at times), but he can drive...

...very interesting partnership for Hansen. I wonder if they will be using 2018 Peugeot Sport cars?

MrJan
6th March 2019, 12:24
I think Doran is actually good for the sport, and partly because he is clearly such a dick. It's good for him to play the villain and his aggressive driving style certainly creates action on track, he was particularly entertaining at Loheac.

tbtstt
6th March 2019, 13:40
Full list up...

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/53730277_2436857982993348_4267343548115845120_n.jp g?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr3-1.xx&oh=0f3edf481ff7b5fc527aedaf597cf5ad&oe=5CDEE7E3

Myrvold
6th March 2019, 14:19
Monster Energy RX Cartel? Not exactly the smartest team-name when Monster is the main series sponsor :P

I am surprised that we did get 16 entries, at the same time, I hoped for more ERX privateers stepping up.

Fast Eddie WRC
6th March 2019, 15:19
Bakkerud and Doran... great news to have this exciting duo in the mix.

Fast Eddie WRC
6th March 2019, 15:20
Kevin Hansen:
WE DID IT!!
So proud to enter @fiaworldrx as Team HANSEN MJP!
It’s been the toughest months of our lives, but it was all worth it. Me and Timmy are ready to fight for the big crown in 2019 with our 208 WRX🙌💯
#thereturn #TeamHANSENMJP #WorldRX https://t.co/K3js5pFAQH

Fast Eddie WRC
21st March 2019, 15:47
UK fans...

FreeSports @FreeSports_TV

Excited to announce FIA World RX returns to FreeSports this season !

LIVE coverage from Abu Dhabi
6th April.

MrJan
21st March 2019, 18:49
UK fans...

FreeSports @FreeSports_TV

Excited to announce FIA World RX returns to FreeSports this season !

LIVE coverage from Abu Dhabi
6th April.

Shame that Freesports isn't actually available to a chunk of the UK.

Fast Eddie WRC
22nd March 2019, 16:12
Shame that Freesports isn't actually available to a chunk of the UK.

Better news ! :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2Rj_ipXcAAvo8L.jpg

Fast Eddie WRC
29th March 2019, 22:03
No to eWRX ?https://www.autosport.com/wrx/news/142431/key-vote-over-world-rx-electric-switch-fails

deephouse
1st April 2019, 17:57
No to eWRX ?https://www.autosport.com/wrx/news/142431/key-vote-over-world-rx-electric-switch-fails

Not even surprised. Every big names predict and leave before it's too late

Fast Eddie WRC
2nd April 2019, 17:57
The response - Projekt-E.

https://www.fiaworldrallycross.com/article/10268/img-announces-projekt-e--

Fast Eddie WRC
4th April 2019, 15:42
What's new for 2019:

'The most significant change to the sporting regulations is the grid order from Q2 onwards. Q1 will be dictated by the pre-race draw, but for Q2, and Q3 the race order can be reversed by a random draw. Carried out at the end of the last race of Q1 and Q2 the draw will decide if the race order is as usual (fastest cars last) or reversed so that the fastest cars will race first.'

https://www.fiaworldrallycross.com/article/10270/what-s-new-for-2019

Yas Marina Circuit draw for the first World RX of Abu Dhabi

Full Q1 Grid:

RACE 1
Andreas Bakkerud
Pal Try
Oliver Bennett

RACE 2
Guerlain Chicherit
Kevin Hansen
Timo Scheider
Cyril Raymond

RACE 3
Timur Timerzyanov
Reinis Nitiss
Guillaume De Ridder
Krisztian Szabo
Anton Marklund

RACE 4
Timmy Hansen
Niclas Gronholm
Janis Baumanis
Rokas Baciuska
Liam Doran

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3SKk1lWAAEclCx.jpg

Fast Eddie WRC
4th April 2019, 15:47
Doran & Bakkerud's cars just revealed:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3UDBb1XsAEVBlh.jpg

Myrvold
5th April 2019, 21:05
Damn the track is awful.

SubaruNorway
5th April 2019, 21:50
Yeah when they saw the jump didn't work on the test a few weeks ago, why didn't they change it...?

MrJan
5th April 2019, 23:57
Yeah when they saw the jump didn't work on the test a few weeks ago, why didn't they change it...?

I’m sure I heard one of the drivers say that they did! Guess not enough.

I really hope that Spa doesn’t have this same bullshit gravel that is so hard it ends up with a layer of rubber on it.



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Myrvold
6th April 2019, 00:53
I’m sure I heard one of the drivers say that they did! Guess not enough.

I really hope that Spa doesn’t have this same bullshit gravel that is so hard it ends up with a layer of rubber on it.


It will.

Fast Eddie WRC
6th April 2019, 09:47
Never mind the track, at least the times are close with the top guys within a second of each other. No VW-style domination and close racing bodes well for the season.

Fast Eddie WRC
6th April 2019, 12:05
The second day of the World Rallycross season opener in Abu Dhabi has begun and Oliver Bennett hits the kerbs and rolls his MINI Cooper in the first race of Q3. :(

https://twitter.com/VincentJBruins/status/1114481511569481729

Fast Eddie WRC
6th April 2019, 12:19
Huge contact between Timmy Hansen and Andreas Bakkerud at the joker merge! Despite this, Timmy still wins Q3 Race 4, but ends up seventh overall in Q3.

https://twitter.com/VincentJBruins/status/1114487477983678464

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3d0u7fXkAA28OX.jpg

Fast Eddie WRC
6th April 2019, 13:14
Bakkerud says he thought it was the last lap and it was the finish line they were going for...

Fast Eddie WRC
6th April 2019, 15:16
No surprise, Bakkerud has been disqualified from Q3 for his incident with Timmy Hansen and will not qualify for the Semi-Finals.

BobJones
6th April 2019, 15:39
The main problem is this track has an inconsistent finish line, placed on the joker merge. Three other cars in qualifying got mixed up with what lap they were one and went flat out into turn one/finish. A crash waiting to happen.

Plus a bad jump landing and these silly curbs which are causing punctures, suspension failures and the bananas Nitiss flight - this track is simply terrible.

If there was any doubt, it's time for IMG to hand over the reins.

Fast Eddie WRC
6th April 2019, 15:44
Cant believe Doran is through to the Final after his poor qualifying. Nice move to seal 3rd place in SF1.

tomhlord
6th April 2019, 15:49
Marklund has taken Nittis out twice this weekend. What a joke.

Fast Eddie WRC
6th April 2019, 16:04
Good comeback by N.Gronhom in SF2, P5 ➡P1.

tomhlord
6th April 2019, 16:18
Once again in the final, we see that the finish line being different to the main track is utterly stupid.

Then, a shame now the result is under question.

I was super-excited for this season with the potential open results, but this was a messy weekend.

Fast Eddie WRC
6th April 2019, 16:28
Fair result for me in the final.

The joker merge was poorly designed, the kerbs are way too big and there's little to no gravel / off-road sections. However, the racing has been pretty good.

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
6th April 2019, 17:39
I'd like to see more entries in European rounds since the manus are too busy in Projekt E..

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SubaruNorway
6th April 2019, 18:26
I’m sure I heard one of the drivers say that they did! Guess not enough.

I really hope that Spa doesn’t have this same bullshit gravel that is so hard it ends up with a layer of rubber on it.



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Maybe they held the drawing the wrong way around...

Fast Eddie WRC
6th April 2019, 19:57
Niclas Grönholm lost his win after a 3 sec penalty was applied.

Harsh IMO.

TheFlyingTuga
6th April 2019, 21:07
Niclas Grönholm lost his win after a 3 sec penalty was applied.

Harsh IMO.

What he was supposed to do? Lift and let the Hansenboy win? Kevin lost all of exit speed going a bit to sideways on that corner... I just don't understand the penalty. A ridiculous track with no overtaking points and a bad design joker and jump... if you don't create a bit of oportunity... the guy that gets in front in the first corner wins it easily.
I reckon that WRX will only be one more year... it's not good anymore...

Myrvold
6th April 2019, 22:42
What he was supposed to do? Lift and let the Hansenboy win? Kevin lost all of exit speed going a bit to sideways on that corner... I just don't understand the penalty. A ridiculous track with no overtaking points and a bad design joker and jump... if you don't create a bit of oportunity... the guy that gets in front in the first corner wins it easily.
I reckon that WRX will only be one more year... it's not good anymore...

Push to pass is a button in different series, not a way to get another car out of the way.

MrJan
7th April 2019, 17:00
I thought penalty was fair. It wasn't just contact, he kept his foot in and turn Kevin around. Silly really, I think he had the pace to pass him just by jokering on a different lap.

N.O.T
7th April 2019, 17:38
If they remove contacts that are borderline "dirty" in Rx then they can just cancel the whole joke... if only boring passes through joker laps are allowed whats the point ?

the sport is dead anyways... but just saying.

Fast Eddie WRC
12th April 2019, 09:52
GB Olympic cyclist Chris Hoy to race at Catalunya !

'So excited about this, but terrified in equal measure, can’t wait to experience World Rallycross firsthand !' 🚗💨 https://t.co/CPdsIPKuuM

tomhlord
17th April 2019, 12:19
The latest Bakkerud Life if brilliant. Quite literally going through a pile of old damaged bumpers to see what they can use. Carbon parts are never cheap! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4s4FQaB6Dg

Myrvold
27th April 2019, 01:15
https://youtu.be/5FxnDz49r1Q

Pity Kia couldnt be persuaded to do more with this car/driver combo!

Or any sponsor to get him to do ERX at least.

On a sidenote, that track looked more like an RX track should than the majority of the WRX tracks. Liked it.

Fast Eddie WRC
27th April 2019, 12:36
Peugeot 1-2 in Q1 in Catalunya.

pantealex
27th April 2019, 14:50
Peugeot 1-2 in Q1 in Catalunya.

and Q2.

Timur was 3rd in both Q1 and Q2.

Also RX2 had same 1-2-3 in Q1 and Q2

Fast Eddie WRC
28th April 2019, 11:00
Gronholm a close 2nd in Q3.

Gutted for Hoy... nearly a Qually race win. :(

Fast Eddie WRC
28th April 2019, 11:47
Q4 win and a clean sweep for Timmy Hansen in Qually.... pretty dominant.

Fast Eddie WRC
28th April 2019, 22:19
So a Peugeot-Hansen 1-2 in the final. They are looking near unbeatable now.

Btw, not too impressed with the track in Catalunya. Only one good overtake all weekend that I can remember, plus once again very little gravel.

(PS. Craig Breen was also there watching. I can see him in WRX at some point.)

Myrvold
28th April 2019, 22:30
plus once again very little gravel.


Smoking tires on gravel/"gravel". Not really impressive.

Fast Eddie WRC
29th April 2019, 15:48
Wow ! If true ...

Craig_Breen confirmed to drive 2019 Global Rallycross Europe campaign (& Hayden Paddon) ► https://t.co/fezbkfTpd8 https://t.co/YYyPPOLv6p

Fast Eddie WRC
29th April 2019, 15:53
It is true:
http://titansrx.eu/craig-breen-joins-titansrx/

Fast Eddie WRC
11th May 2019, 13:18
No shortage of gravel at Spa ! :)

tbtstt
11th May 2019, 14:14
Really enjoying Spa so far. Proper dirt section, enough space for passing and some unpredictable racing.

Nice to see some different names at the top of the standings, this is what I was hoping for this season.

Myrvold
11th May 2019, 17:26
Really enjoying Spa so far. Proper dirt section, enough space for passing and some unpredictable racing.

Nice to see some different names at the top of the standings, this is what I was hoping for this season.

Indeed!

If I could change two things, it would be camera placements - especially that one in to the joker. It's useless and spread the gravel out a bit. I realize that's not easy on how the track have been built. But it is complete tarmac, then complete gravel. The track would've been even better if it had been 2 smaller tarmac parts and two smaller gravel parts! But this might be one of the best new tracks!

Fast Eddie WRC
11th May 2019, 22:15
Good having the heavy rain between Q1 & Q2... the grimy track and muddy cars looked like proper old-skool rallycross.

Fast Eddie WRC
12th May 2019, 12:47
Q3 Race 3 was a good one !

And Q4 Race 4.

Got to love Timur.

Sulland
12th May 2019, 14:11
Indeed!

If I could change two things, it would be camera placements - especially that one in to the joker. It's useless and spread the gravel out a bit. I realize that's not easy on how the track have been built. But it is complete tarmac, then complete gravel. The track would've been even better if it had been 2 smaller tarmac parts and two smaller gravel parts! But this might be one of the best new tracks!

Also because it is wide enough to be able to choose different track angels into bends, and also gives the drivers the option to give room to others.
Many other tracks are way to narrow to allow overtaking.

love the gravel section, with the long bend and joker with a lot of action for both lanes!

Lets hope Spa stays in the calendar!

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
12th May 2019, 14:26
Finally Timur wins after seven years..

The track is good, but it's too short..

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Myrvold
12th May 2019, 15:38
Doran does what Doran does best though.

Fast Eddie WRC
12th May 2019, 22:27
Got to be happy for Timur... he was so good right through from the Quallys.

No Peugeot domination here either, lets hope it stays that way.

And Spa has been a breath if fresh air. Great RX track.

tbtstt
13th May 2019, 08:02
Well, credit where it is due, I think Spa is the best F1-based rallycross circuit (by some margin in my personal opinion).

Fast, proper dirt and wide enough for passing. Proof that you don't need a complicated layout for good racing.

Fantastic result for Timur and long overdue success for GRX. That's bought the Hansen lead down a bit as well, hopefully a sign we might get the close privateer fight we are all hoping for.

deephouse
14th May 2019, 15:35
Well what about Joni. He showed a real pace. And some of the drivers can just hide. Great to see the Hyundai's strong this weekend.

Fast Eddie WRC
23rd May 2019, 20:13
British Rallycross Champion Mark Higgins launches his 2019 season at WorldRX Championship of Great Britain at Silverstone. https://t.co/pVJqkRvBbS to read more...

tomhlord
24th May 2019, 07:09
I think it's great that Mark is on the grid, but that car is only suitable for EuroRX, not World.

lluisva555
24th May 2019, 15:52
Our review of RX supercars rear wings....

https://www.wrcwings.tech/2019/05/23/world-rallycross-supercars-rear-wing-comparative/

Fast Eddie WRC
25th May 2019, 13:10
I think it's great that Mark is on the grid, but that car is only suitable for EuroRX, not World.

Watching Q1 the Audi of Szabo looked from a different class to Higgins Peugeot.

Fast Eddie WRC
25th May 2019, 22:25
Also Higgins car was landing on its nose over the jump in Q2 whereas the Hansen cars were flying long and level. Poor Higgins has no chance here.

Fast Eddie WRC
29th May 2019, 16:14
Kevin Abbring to drive the Skoda Fabia RX Supercar in Norway.

tbtstt
7th June 2019, 10:08
Just uploaded some pictures from Silverstone, few faves...

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48017652447_4c428481f3_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48017566136_fafec0f33b_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48017577688_576d04b35b_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48017566296_7cf8518bc6_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48017577968_67ac65ecc9_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48017566516_8796abc6ea_b.jpg

...more here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/22961613@N06/albums/72157708971275916

If anyone is interested.

Myrvold
16th June 2019, 19:01
A wet Hell is a fun Hell! :)

Fast Eddie WRC
16th June 2019, 22:48
Fantastic actiion. Wet RX is like proper old-skool rallycross.

What happened to Doran though ? Gutted for him.

markf8691
16th June 2019, 23:08
Looks like both will compete together

https://e-racing365.com/off-road/electric-world-rx-plans-change-again-mixed-grids-now-planned/

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
17th June 2019, 05:02
Marklund has been Blocked, so Niclas is inheriting the victory..

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deephouse
17th June 2019, 14:09
Kevin Hansen inheritate Gronholm's win in Abu Dhabi this year. What is impressive that Kevin Abbring came out of nowhere and climb to 4th place. Amazing. In rally he is not that good at all.

tomhlord
17th June 2019, 17:58
Great drive by Kevin Abbring!

the sniper
17th June 2019, 18:16
What is impressive that Kevin Abbring came out of nowhere and climb to 4th place. Amazing. In rally he is not that good at all.

He's often shown to be very fast in rallying. It's his reliability which was/is a problem.

JUF
17th June 2019, 18:51
I actually think that Abbring is able match the speed of the WRC top contenders. But it´s true that he often made mistakes under pressure and he had some really bad luck as well. Good to see him in World RX now, I hope to see him for a full season next year.

Fast Eddie WRC
17th June 2019, 19:59
Abbring learned really fast and handled the 600bhp, racecraft and conditions brilliantly.

Myrvold
19th June 2019, 01:02
But it´s true that he often made mistakes under pressure

You kinda saw that in the final as well to be fair.

Fast Eddie WRC
19th June 2019, 17:37
Olsbergsmse:

MAGIC ! We are back to @FIAWorldRX at @HoljesRX with two supercars Team for @Erikssonkev and @SebEriksson93 !

Magic Weekend will be also World premiere for our Honda Civic RX Supercar with Ulrik Linnemann as driver! Join us in Holjes!

https://t.co/fRBwH2DJE1

Fast Eddie WRC
1st July 2019, 22:33
Anyone see Titans RX on Eurosport in which Craig Breen and Hayden Paddon both took part ?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/uk.sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/heikkinen-hansen-share-first-titans-165158680.html

Very poor WRX copy IMO. Surprised those WRC drivers and the Hansen brothers took part.

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
2nd July 2019, 01:51
Even French RX Division 3 looks better..

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Fast Eddie WRC
6th July 2019, 11:37
That was a pretty crazy Q1 at Höljes. You'd think they were already at the final !

Fast Eddie WRC
6th July 2019, 18:12
Good for Nitiss winning Q2 after getting rolled out of Q1.

Abbring also looking good again in RX.

Fast Eddie WRC
7th July 2019, 16:05
Brilliant win by Seb Eriksson in the Ford Fiesta and Nitiss 3rd. Great advert for the car.

tbtstt
10th July 2019, 16:52
Great weekend of racing and, once again, some different names on the podium which is exactly what was hoped for this season.

Can't but help but think OMSE got their timing wrong returning to World RX: they really struggled last year but, despite some issues (and arguably home soil advantage) they were right in the mix in Holjes. Looks like they have reverted back to a conventional layout for the cars (with the cooling in the rear again)? I wonder how different the 2019 cars are to those used last year.

Without meaning to sound like a social media conspiracy theorist, I did question some of the stewards decisions (or rather lack of decisions) in Sweden. Timmy Hansen clearly pushed to pass in the semi-final, but nothing was said. Yet far lighter contact has been punished elsewhere? I am not keen on the lack of consistency.

Myrvold
16th July 2019, 23:58
Without meaning to sound like a social media conspiracy theorist, I did question some of the stewards decisions (or rather lack of decisions) in Sweden. Timmy Hansen clearly pushed to pass in the semi-final, but nothing was said. Yet far lighter contact has been punished elsewhere? I am not keen on the lack of consistency.

It feels like we'd need to see a rear view of it (I assume you are talking about the move on Abbring in the last corner?). As if he went on the brakes just as he landed, the stewards are often looking at it a bit milder as "he was on the brakes trying to avoid it". The second impact seemed to be around Abbrings door, that is a grey area in the rules, side by side contact is fine, but so are more often than not "in to the side" contact. It was naugthy, and it could've been penalized, I just wish we saw it from the rear as well.

Fast Eddie WRC
4th August 2019, 22:31
Big win for Bakkerud in Canada - he now splits the Hansen's and is just 7 pts off the top.

Great for the Championship. Just a pity Gronholm didnt make the final and close up too.

Sulland
5th August 2019, 04:17
Have they stopped blackflagging cars during heats?
Kevin Hanssen should imo have gotten the black flag (DQ) for the "torpedo" he gave Marklund.

tbtstt
5th August 2019, 08:25
Big win for Bakkerud in Canada - he now splits the Hansen's and is just 7 pts off the top.
5 points now: Kevin was disqualified from the final for the move on Marklund.


Great for the Championship. Just a pity Gronholm didnt make the final and close up too.
Yeah. Gutted for Gronholm. He should be leading the Championship, such a shame he missed those rounds this year. Still not impossible for him to catch up, but he really needed a better result this weekend.