Rallye Monte Carlo 2014

[er88]

Gret time JML. Good also from Dani in the i20 and Kubica keeping up his pace and keeping car on the road :). Meeke Struggled in that stage with lack of experience with the tyres, Mikkelsen quite poor tbh

[Rallyper]

For me rallying skills are about, except from good strategy, how to handle a rallycar in 6th gear on gravel or snow when you have a pace note saying 5 left or right. Not driving in 60 km/h on slush with X set of tyres.

I haven't expected such statement from You :(

Rallying is and ALWAYS has been about coping with conditions. This event called Rallye Monte Carlo gave the name to the whole sport. It is far older than any other rally in the world and it has always been about the fight with conditions. How about Safari? Argentina? Acropolis? That is not rallying for You?

For sure, but all those rallies has average speed well over 60 km/h. Why didnt you expect that quote from me, btw? I´ve said it many times before. Don´t forget last year in Monte they cancelled two stages from very dodgy reasons...

RMC should be in WRC, no doubt, but real rallying is to handle cars with proper setups of tyres (not crossover solutions) and in 6th gear over blind crests etz, etz... And not gambling...

[andyone]

im just happy that. Ogier is not dominating. and i just wish he dont win this one. so he can wait a little bit. and i hope he wont dominite sweden.. happy happy happy he should retire.

[thuGG]

What's going on? Again private M-sport drivers are better than manufacture team? the same tyres and the same car :eek:

Mikko missed on the tires and Evans can hardly be asked to follow a man of Bouffier's ability and experience on his first event in the car?

Mikko on SS4 had the same tires as Kubica and Bouffier.

[miniwintz]

For sure, but all those rallies has average speed well over 60 km/h. Why didnt you expect that quote from me, btw? I´ve said it many times before. Don´t forget last year in Monte they cancelled two stages from very dodgy reasons...

RMC should be in WRC, no doubt, but real rallying is to handle cars with proper setups of tyres (not crossover solutions) and in 6th gear over blind crests etz, etz... And not gambling...
http://www.bodylovewellness.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/well-thats-just-like-your-opinion-man-gif-the-dude-lebowski.gif

[megadrive]

What's going on? Again private M-sport drivers are better than manufacture team? the same tyres and the same car :eek:

Well, as I said earlier, it's a gambler's driver time.
Manufacture's drivers are just playing save for now. Just my guess.

That's ok for Evans, but Mikko with his expirence doing so slow times ;( and playing for safe it is bad strategy for manufacture team.

[er88]

For me rallying skills are about, except from good strategy, how to handle a rallycar in 6th gear on gravel or snow when you have a pace note saying 5 left or right. Not driving in 60 km/h on slush with X set of tyres.

I haven't expected such statement from You :(

Rallying is and ALWAYS has been about coping with conditions. This event called Rallye Monte Carlo gave the name to the whole sport. It is far older than any other rally in the world and it has always been about the fight with conditions. How about Safari? Argentina? Acropolis? That is not rallying for You?

For sure, but all those rallies has average speed well over 60 km/h. Why didnt you expect that quote from me, btw? I´ve said it many times before. Don´t forget last year in Monte they cancelled two stages from very dodgy reasons...

RMC should be in WRC, no doubt, but real rallying is to handle cars with proper setups of tyres (not crossover solutions) and in 6th gear over blind crests etz, etz... And not gambling...

No sorry- rallying is facing upto the stages and rally infront of you- whatever the conditions and difficulties. Rallying is about the unpredictability and excitement.

[megadrive]

special stage 05. stage report "Most of the stage is wet with mud, ice only on few places." Maybe it is time for Ogier to make his boss Capito do like this :bounce:

[Rallyper]

Yeah it might be so even in my described conditions, but don´t ever talk about who´s fastest when comparing drivers...

excitement only for the fans, focusing and letting their skills play, for the drivers

[GigiGalliNo1]

Sordo stopped on road section with flat battery...

[miniwintz]

Sordo stopped on road section with flat battery...
I was silly to think that Koreans were the kings of electronics :D

[Sukhoi]

Sordo stopped on road section with flat battery...


dreadful news :s .. hyundai out?

[er88]

Sordo stopped on road section with flat battery...

Harsh Reality of the big boy competition for hyundai. Can take encouragement from Sordo being competitive. Pity though, it promotes Ogier up one place :angryfire

[ChristianArp]

What's going on? Again private M-sport drivers are better than manufacture team? the same tyres and the same car :eek:

Mikko missed on the tires and Evans can hardly be asked to follow a man of Bouffier's ability and experience on his first event in the car?

Mikko on SS4 had the same tires as Kubica and Bouffier.

It's the Monte, no way can you cherrypick a single stage time to compare - besides, Mikko isn't exactly what you would call an asphalt specialist. You have to call Robert and Bryan asphalt specialists. And I would struggle to call Robert a private driver, he just happens to have a major sponsor that wants to be associated with him, so he's in an MSport2-team.

[Astro83]

Sordo stopped on road section with flat battery...


WHAT!?!?!

were do you get this info from???

[Sukhoi]

Sordo stopped on road section with flat battery...


WHAT!?!?!

were do you get this info from???


just now Confirmed on WRC radio..

[miniwintz]

It's on the radio http://www.wrc.com/live-ticker/live_popup_radio.html

[Astro83]

Sordo stopped on road section with flat battery...


WHAT!?!?!

were do you get this info from???


just now Confirmed on WRC radio..



Yea, I heard... :( :(

That sucks..

[jonkka]

Sordo stopped on road section with flat battery...

That's just so wrong...

[thuGG]

It's the Monte, no way can you cherrypick a single stage time to compare - besides, Mikko isn't exactly what you would call an asphalt specialist. You have to call Robert and Bryan asphalt specialists. And I would struggle to call Robert a private driver, he just happens to have a major sponsor that wants to be associated with him, so he's in an MSport2-team.

Ok, not cherrypicking a single stage, Mikko is over 2 minutes behind Bouffier and Kubica.

[dimviii]

not the best first rally for Hyundai....

[miniwintz]

Is it not possible to start the car by pushing it? Illegal or just technically not possible?

[stefanvv]

Is it not possible to start the car by pushing it? Illegal or just technically not possible?
There must be a reason for flat battery, alternator not working?

[Astro83]

Ogier is back.. ha ha ha

[ChristianArp]

Ok, not cherrypicking a single stage, Mikko is over 2 minutes behind Bouffier and Kubica.

Of which 1.34 is from stage 3, and the wrong tire choice.
I am not surprised Bryan is half a minute faster than Mikko in identical cars.. when it's the Monte.
And I really don't understand why so many people seem to be.

Do people really not know these drivers and their individual capabilities? It's just a 'manufacturer driver has to be faster than any private driver, on any event, no matter what! Anything else is a disaster!' that keeps being said.

[stefanvv]

Ogier's gamble didn't pay off

[dimviii]

Is it not possible to start the car by pushing it? Illegal or just technically not possible?

if the battery is dead or the alternator cant sent electricity to battery is useless to push.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/19/x5yy.png

[dimviii]

if you want ask something Dani just let me know :D
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/600/tkh0.png

[RS]

What's going on? Again private M-sport drivers are better than manufacture team? the same tyres and the same car :eek:

Mikko missed on the tires and Evans can hardly be asked to follow a man of Bouffier's ability and experience on his first event in the car?

It's actually Evans' second event in the car and Bouffier's first, but I get your point about Evans' relative lack of overall experience. I think he's doing very well.

Mikko says he needs more mileage in the car :confused:

[dimviii]

Julian Porter ?@The_Rally_Guru 10 ?????
Sordo & Marti work to fix the car, there is no electric power to the car at all.

[Jarek Z]

if you want ask something Dani just let me know :D


Can't you try to push them? ;)

[dimviii]

Mikko says he needs more mileage in the car :confused:

Mikko is obvious for last 2 years that is finished.As a second driver ok...maybe...

[er88]

Mads chose cross between slick and winter- didnt like it

[megadrive]

Is it not possible to start the car by pushing it? Illegal or just technically not possible?

If you have not power on dashboard you can't start the engine, you need fixed the problem with battery and switch on the electricity.

[miniwintz]

Sure I understand now. Problem a bit more complex than just flat battery I see :)

[Astro83]

Some one who can fix live pics as before from SS6?? want to se the road condition! :)

[MartijnS]

First good stage for Ogier @ SS5.

[er88]

Ogier on the prowl..

[Astro83]

Meeke needs to step up on SS6! He needs to fight back with RK but STAY ON THE ROAD! ;)

[megadrive]

For the moment Ogier reduce some gap form race leaders but still one stage to go in afternoon loop and french haven't studded tyres!

[Mirek]

Seems like 207 S2000 designer brought to the i20WRC also the frequent alternator problems :)

[Astro83]

For the moment Ogier reduce some gap form race leaders but still one stage to go in afternoon loop and french haven't studded tyres!

Ogier has 2 winter, 2 super soft and 2 studded??

[dimviii]

its over
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeGxY5hCQAEHOco.jpg

[A FONDO]

Now Mister Ogy only needs to survive the sixth stage and he will be an easy leader tomorrow afternoon. Bouffy can't resist him and Meek and Krashica will crash.

[dimviii]

For the moment Ogier reduce some gap form race leaders but still one stage to go in afternoon loop and french haven't studded tyres!

Ogier has 2 winter, 2 super soft and 2 studded??

yep!

[Frostmourne]

I hope Ogier crash and retire!

[dimviii]

i also think everything is opened.We know that with correct tyre choice Ogier can crunch this minute.

[megadrive]

For the moment Ogier reduce some gap form race leaders but still one stage to go in afternoon loop and french haven't studded tyres!

Ogier has 2 winter, 2 super soft and 2 studded??

sorry for mistake, he has 2 studded as well . :rolleyes:

[N.O.T]

I hope Ogier crash and retire!

why ?

[Mirek]

I hope Ogier crash and retire!

Eh? Are You serious?

[thuGG]

I hope Ogier crash and retire!

Eh? Are You serious?


It's a response to this:


Now Mister Ogy only needs to survive the sixth stage and he will be an easy leader tomorrow afternoon. Bouffy can't resist him and Meek and Krashica will crash.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS5 normal service is resumed.. Ogier coming for ya. :(

[Nikey]

I hope Ogier crash and retire!

I hope not, but I would like to see him losing to some of these newer guys. Would be good for the sport

[er88]

I hope Ogier crash and retire!

LOL speak you're mind man :laugh: Anyone else you want to crash and retire while we are at it? :laugh:

[bluuford]

So, is Hyunday going to pack their huge house tonight?

[N.O.T]

the stupidity remains... and it only took just 1 year for the Loeb retards to become Ogier retards... wishing crashes/retirements and younger dogs of nothingness to become faster...

The good of the sport is the best driver to win...

Get used to it... Ogier is going to ridicule a lot of doggies for the years to come...

[er88]

I hope Ogier crash and retire!

I hope not, but I would like to see him losing to some of these newer guys. Would be good for the sport

This i agree with!! If Bouffier, Meeke or Kubica pulled off an unlikely win id love to see the look on the Frenchman's rattled face :bounce. But it probably won't happen

[Rallyper]

Very sorry for Huyndai. Two unpredictible different ways of retiring. They need to work even harder. The Hyundai way of doing projects havent been succesful so far...

[megadrive]

So, is Hyunday going to pack their huge house tonight?

They need to decide how to entertain their supporters and sponsors, maybe some circus scene with drivers and co-drivers or some dangerous stunts with mechanics :)

[jonkka]

So, is Hyunday going to pack their huge house tonight?

They can, no more cars in the rally and with no rally 2 there's only questionable PR presence left...

[arko5]

They do not have to pulled off. Ogier is just quicker. 15 s on SS5, another 15 next one...

[jonkka]

Very sorry for Huyndai. Two unpredictible different ways of retiring. They need to work even harder. The Hyundai way of doing projects havent been succesful so far...

The best thing was Sordo's speed. If that is sign of things to come, they and everyone can be happy. Bear in mind that they did only third of the preparations that VW did .

[er88]

the stupidity remains... and it only took just 1 year for the Loeb retards to become Ogier retards... wishing crashes/retirements and younger dogs of nothingness to become faster...

The good of the sport is the best driver to win...

Get used to it... Ogier is going to ridicule a lot of doggies for the years to come...

You have to realise folk love an underdog. And me personally, and by the looks of it many others don't find Ogier an overly likeable guy to support if you were to back a driver. The thought of another 9yr dominance also pains people

[Mirek]

The best thing was Sordo's speed. If that is sign of things to come, they and everyone can be happy. Bear in mind that they did only third of the preparations that VW did .

Actually much less. VW did an entire season before coming with WRC. For Hyundai this year is what for VW was the Škoda season.

[Mirek]

They do not have to pulled off. Ogier is just quicker. 15 s on SS5, another 15 next one...

Next stage has the highest elevation of all today and there will be most likely still some snow left. Ogier doesn't have tyres for that.

[dimviii]

Colin Clark ?@voiceofrally 21 ?????
On way to SS6 and rain continues to come down heavily. Low cloud across the Colls might also make visibility tricky. Lots still to come!!!

[dimviii]

morning stage is 49km long.1 minute is nothing for tricky conditions with right choice for Ogier.
The only problem is to make the wrong choice Bouffier and Kubica.

[Frostmourne]

I hope Ogier crash and retire!

Eh? Are You serious?

I just dont like that guy attitude. I dont mind anyone winning, any manufacturer but not Ogier.

[RAS007]

Anyone know what happened to Delecour?

[Frostmourne]

the stupidity remains... and it only took just 1 year for the Loeb retards to become Ogier retards... wishing crashes/retirements and younger dogs of nothingness to become faster...

The good of the sport is the best driver to win...

Get used to it... Ogier is going to ridicule a lot of doggies for the years to come...

Call it whatever you like N.O.T, stupidity, retards, whatever, your response says alot about you!

[stefanvv]

Anyone know what happened to Delecour?
(12 - Delecour François / Savignoni Dominique): technical problem - gas pedal in SS 1

[Rallyper]

Anyone know what happened to Delecour?
(12 - Delecour François / Savignoni Dominique): technical problem - gas pedal in SS 1

Wasn´t that problem appearing for him on SD as well?

[dimviii]

Anyone know what happened to Delecour?
stacked gas peedal-> out of road but not 100% sure

[stefanvv]

Anyone know what happened to Delecour?
(12 - Delecour François / Savignoni Dominique): technical problem - gas pedal in SS 1

Wasn´t that problem appearing for him on SD as well?
I think so

[megadrive]

"First half of the stage is wet, second is slushy and icy." sounds good :)

[dimviii]

Neuville interview after the crash
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV4q-CXabdQ

[Astro83]

Who put up the pics erlier of SS6? live webcam pics??

Put it up again, so we can see the road conditions :)

[noel157]

Was it this one? Slushy-
http://camera3.inforoute05.fr/image/SIC ... 2119355448 (http://camera3.inforoute05.fr/image/SIC.jpg?token=bSCw7dnTXtUgMCXa02vFg7xr7h8EMzM1&code=0.5840192119355448)

[bluuford]

1100 m http://camera3.inforoute05.fr/image/SIC ... 8745508876 (http://camera3.inforoute05.fr/image/SIC.jpg?token=FIVh0upZYw7NFpWPqhjqBAgh38v3jHtb&code=0.1562158745508876)
1300 m http://camera3.inforoute05.fr/image/CEU ... 8690399658 (http://camera3.inforoute05.fr/image/CEUC.jpg?token=c1B6lwytbwXz8ZpaCbDLSxeCuif8jOlz&code=0.07472848690399658)
both around 25km from the stage

1100m http://camera3.inforoute05.fr/image/TOU ... 8549244284 (http://camera3.inforoute05.fr/image/TOUC.jpg?token=ehGkqD4Z8gqWas6b2599RJGvQUJ1zXMa&code=0.38666928549244284)
around 10-15km fom the stage

[Astro83]

1100 m http://camera3.inforoute05.fr/image/SIC ... 8745508876 (http://camera3.inforoute05.fr/image/SIC.jpg?token=FIVh0upZYw7NFpWPqhjqBAgh38v3jHtb&code=0.1562158745508876)
1300 m http://camera3.inforoute05.fr/image/CEU ... 8690399658 (http://camera3.inforoute05.fr/image/CEUC.jpg?token=c1B6lwytbwXz8ZpaCbDLSxeCuif8jOlz&code=0.07472848690399658)
both around 25km from the stage

1100m http://camera3.inforoute05.fr/image/TOU ... 8549244284 (http://camera3.inforoute05.fr/image/TOUC.jpg?token=ehGkqD4Z8gqWas6b2599RJGvQUJ1zXMa&code=0.38666928549244284)
around 10-15km fom the stage


Thanks!! :kiss: ;)

[noel157]

Splits still years behind and getting totals for splits too:

M. HIRVONEN M +2.3 00:04:09.3

[Sukhoi]

These two ladies on WRC radio taken over commentary since this year?

[dimviii]

103km/h vs 82 for first pass for Ogier.

[dimviii]

Ogier now 7.8 from Kubica ;) lets wait for Bouffier now

[dimviii]

Ogier 47 from Bouffier.Everything is open.

[stefanvv]

Meeke to 2nd

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke now up to 2nd passing Kubica :)

[Mirek]

I hope Ogier crash and retire!

Eh? Are You serious?

I just dont like that guy attitude. I dont mind anyone winning, any manufacturer but not Ogier.

I just don't like Your attitude. Wishing a crash to anybody is retarded, sorry.

[mm1]

Excelent top3 for the first day. Just what WRC needs :smokin:

[A FONDO]

Good debut by Evans

[er88]

Well done Meeke :bounce:!! Great day for him, kubica and Bouffier. Real excitement this morning. Bluuford any weather predictions for tomorrows stages ;) ?

[N.O.T]

Good debut by Evans

the rally is not over yet...good debut in what way ? choosing tyres ?

[Astro83]

Good work Meeke! Passing RK!

Tomorrow will be real intresting but I think Ogier will take this!

[Gregor-y]

Get it together, Colin.

[HaCo]

Big disappointment when I followed twitter this morning. Happy to see Meekes performance, but tyre choise makes everything quite unpredictable. Last stages VW's were on normal pace I think.
What a bad performance by Hirvonen! Hope he can find his speed and confidence back in Sweden!

[A FONDO]

Good debut by Evans

the rally is not over yet...good debut in what way ? choosing tyres ?
In avoiding mistakes in these tricky conditions, overtaking some long-time factory drivers

[megadrive]

ola la la.
Clear stage for Seb. All others, except his teammate had lost approx. 1 sec per kilometer which is quite a lot.

[HaCo]

Who would have guessed that Bouffier would be first after day 1? :D Great by him too! Bit lucky with the tyres I guess!

[Astro83]

Yea maby some luck but he has done this day 1 very good! :)

[dimviii]

Kubica at 1,16 sec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHNIAf5gRhM

[RS]

I am sure the result after day one would be different under dry conditions, but the top three have all done a great job today.

[Brother John]

I hope Ogier crash and retire!

Eh? Are You serious?


It's a response to this:


Now Mister Ogy only needs to survive the sixth stage and he will be an easy leader tomorrow afternoon. Bouffy can't resist him and Meek and Krashica will crash.

Real rally fans do not hope anything that drivers crash and retire....IIII :confused:

[AdvEvo]

Novikov spend millions on keeping his seat alive. No money no seat and you're faster forgotten then snow melts by the sun.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good debut by Evans

the rally is not over yet...good debut in what way ? choosing tyres ?

No big mistakes in terrible conditions and not losing big time. What more would you expect with his experience ??

[Frostmourne]

[quote="Mirek"]I just don't like Your attitude. Wishing a crash to anybody is retarded, sorry.[/quote}

I don't like Your attitude as well. Getting disappointed at a veteran member because he does not share your point of view is retarded, sorry.

[HaCo]

Mikkelsen not really convincing either, lost 2 min on SS3.

[Juha_Koo]

I just don't like Your attitude. Wishing a crash to anybody is retarded, sorry.[/quote}

I don't like Your attitude as well. Getting disappointed at a veteran member because he does not share your point of view is retarded, sorry.

Troll level: maximum. Good try though.

What a day! Very interesting positions. :) Real shame for Hyundai though. Mikko looks completely lost. :z

[RS]

Mikkelsen not really convincing either, lost 2 min on SS3.

I agree, very disappointing. But he didn't do Monte the last 2 years I think and last time he did he crashed on the first corner. Waiting for more from him later in the season.

[COD]

, but tyre choise makes everything quite unpredictable.

That is what makes Monte so interesting!



What a bad performance by Hirvonen! Hope he can find his speed and confidence back in Sweden!

his boat sailed many years ago. This is the level we will see the whole season and then retiment, or maybe joins PS @ RX

[dimviii]

Kubica and Meeke haven t got Monte experience too,even less wrc car experience ;)

http://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/14/02/76/35/img_3610.jpg

[HaCo]

A title for under the picture: IRC-boy and privateer fastest on WRC-opener!

[Rallyper]

Kubica and Meeke haven t got Monte experience too,even less wrc car experience ;)

http://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/14/02/76/35/img_3610.jpg

I would say Meeke has done a couple of Montes in ERC/IRC, however with some mistakes. Hope for better this time though.

[dimviii]

i think Meeke has only retirements at Monte.

[Barreis]

Meeke drove it in JWRC 2003 in corsa...

[dimviii]

Meeke drove it in JWRC 2003 in corsa...

11 years ago with a bad 1600 front wheel drive car,hardly can say experience which be usefull for a works wrc driver.

but is just 1st day.Lets wait 2 more days.

[J.Lindstroem]

Just checked ewrc.cz and Meeke as driven Monte 5 times. In 2003 & 2004 with Corsa s1600, in 2005 with C2 s1600 where he won, and in 2009 & 2010 with the 207 S2000.

3/5 finishes.

[er88]

Meeke drove it in JWRC 2003 in corsa...

11 years ago with a bad 1600 front wheel drive car,hardly can say experience which be usefull for a works wrc driver.

but is just 1st day.Lets wait 2 more days.

Exactly. Meeke has a big experience deficit to other guys in the field- both in driving a wrc spec car and doing wrc rallies. This is only his 11th start in a WRC car in the WRC. Even Ostberg is around 60 or 70+ starts in WRC :eek:. Kubica has amazed me today!!!

[EightGear]

What a day, what a day.

Certainly one of the most unproductive ones of my life. :D

Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk

[Motorsportfun]

Hilarious: former i20 tester now is leading the rally, while both Hyundais are now parked in the service park, retired...

[AndyRAC]

I think I said at the time, either on here or in Twitter than Hyundai should gave kept Bouffier for Monte. He's done lots of testing in the car - and goes well on the event. But, they made their choice....

Overall, a great start to the 2014 season; I think the 49km stage will shake things up.....can't wait!!

[mousti]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeHf9zaCIAAdyzy.jpg:large

Delecour's Fiesta already been stripped.. Alot of money went there to the drain..

[Rallyper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeHf9zaCIAAdyzy.jpg:large

Delecour's Fiesta already been stripped.. Alot of money went there to the drain..

Is there possibly a cooling-week for Delecour? Some invested money back? :stareup:

[thuGG]

10 minutes long Kubica interview ahead of the rally:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCzQpcjopOU

[Francis44]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeHf9zaCIAAdyzy.jpg:large

Delecour's Fiesta already been stripped.. Alot of money went there to the drain..

I dont think in this particular case of mechanical retire on day 1 sponsors pay full price.

[tolis]

When does BT Sport shows Day 1 highlights?

[irish_tiger]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeHf9zaCIAAdyzy.jpg:large

Delecour's Fiesta already been stripped.. Alot of money went there to the drain..

I dont think in this particular case of mechanical retire on day 1 sponsors pay full price.
Pay for the full event or for one day ?

[dimviii]

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/q77/s720x720/1505504_265518696936986_932071803_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/p180x540/1501262_584177018336581_1555644310_o.jpg

[Francis44]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeHf9zaCIAAdyzy.jpg:large

Delecour's Fiesta already been stripped.. Alot of money went there to the drain..

I dont think in this particular case of mechanical retire on day 1 sponsors pay full price.
Pay for the full event or for one day ?

For the full event. Some teams in national level only charge for km if you dont crash, I dont know how it works in the world championship.

[stefanvv]

When does BT Sport shows Day 1 highlights?
11:30pm UK time BT Sport 1

[dimviii]

here we are.Free no beers for today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSTefD_Qz4g

[stefanvv]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNpZykgUcK4

[dimviii]

more new photos
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5495/11983350666_f8658217ed_c.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrall ... 983350666/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive/with/11983350666/)

[dimviii]

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/monte-carlo-2014-aurelien/aurelien_vialatte-17_0.jpg



http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rally ... lo-2014-2/ (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-monte-carlo-2014-2/)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNpZykgUcK4

No more crappy YT or music-filled vids for me... waiting for the full HD highlights on the big tv tonight !!

At last in the UK ... cant wait. :bounce:

[stefanvv]

For those with Sport+/Motors TV, here is detailed schedule:
http://www.rallye-sport.fr/le-programme-tv-du-monte-carlo/

[dimviii]

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/26/93/269337_52d7cc677.JPG
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/26/93/269335_52d7cc40e.JPG
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/26/94/269447_52d7eca01.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/wm ... index.html (http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/wm/galerien/2014/rallye-monte-carlo/index.html)

[dimviii]

watch dirt on the road
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A65upplyOTw

[Allyc85]

What a day today has been! Only heard the standings at the end of it and was chuffed to bits to see Meeke and Evans up there! Some of the standings don't really reflect the pace of some drivers it was that changeable!

We started off on the snowy ss1 and heard Neuville crash with a bang over what should have been an easy flat crest, wiping out a telegraph pole!

Next stage had snow down so the cars were very slow, but I quite enjoyed watching the car control.

Then in the pouring rain we went back to our first stage of the day at a quick section over a bridge, before moving back to the other stage at a downhill, open hairpin.

2 runs at the stage I pictured above tomorrow. Bring it on!

[noel157]

Interview with Neuville about crash and recovery of car to service park:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV4q-CXabdQ

[mousti]

Lucky Ogier

http://t.co/YP9XDgeC34

[Rallyper]

Lucky Ogier

http://t.co/YP9XDgeC34

Usually that ends up with a broken steering or something...Lucky SebO... ;)

[dimviii]

very lucky he didnt bent steering!

[Timole]

Photos from thursday are online here - http://timoanis.eu/season-2014/wrc-rallye-monte-carlo/. Enjoy!

[stefanvv]

Lucky Ogier

http://t.co/YP9XDgeC34

Usually that ends up with a broken steering or something...Lucky SebO... ;)
Thanks to Latvala last year, suspension looks stronger :)

[RICARDO75]

Neuville
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cF1BQC1iJA&feature=em-uploademail

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvoCHOEdYtA&feature=em-uploademail

[dimviii]

Ostberg moment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC47DQb4dd4

[RICARDO75]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC47DQb4dd4&feature=em-uploademail

[Bartek]

3 years ago, polish tv almost slept with Robert after his crash, today no single word about his driving in Monte....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BmBha6QL28 Mads one more time :)

[stefanvv]

It's not easy with winter tyres, imagine with slicks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z70rviWxsI

[stefanvv]

Almosts did it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BmBha6QL28

[Jafry]

Photos from DAY1: http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1225

[dimviii]

Almosts did it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BmBha6QL28
nice he stayed at gas :D

[dimviii]

at 1,52 rally magic picture..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZFc6ReJ5Wo#t=123

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA0j06ltmlo

[dimviii]

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/q80/s720x720/1505112_788913237791167_446977563_n.jpg

[stefanvv]

at 1,52 rally magic picture..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZFc6ReJ5Wo#t=123
Awesome, pure art

[Nornbugger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNpZykgUcK4

that IMHO is a trully unwatchable effort, and a hell of a lot of work done to make it that way too!

[dimviii]

stages 4-6 from wrc site
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/media/videos/ ... l?v=151665 (http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/media/videos/page/112--80--.html?v=151665)

[stefanvv]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNpZykgUcK4

that IMHO is a trully unwatchable effort, and a hell of a lot of work done to make it that way too!
No doubt, an artistic approach as usual from best-of-rally-live

[Bartek]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vclbcO8ncEg > Guys watch in HD :)

[stefanvv]

Time for onboard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vclbcO8ncEg
EDIT: Ops, already posted

[Fast Eddie WRC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNpZykgUcK4

that IMHO is a trully unwatchable effort, and a hell of a lot of work done to make it that way too!

We've all been telling them on Twitter to lose the music & effects as we just want to hear the cars, but its had no effect... ;(

[RAS007]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeHf9zaCIAAdyzy.jpg:large

Delecour's Fiesta already been stripped.. Alot of money went there to the drain..

Is there possibly a cooling-week for Delecour? Some invested money back? :stareup:


Really disappointing for Delecour and not a great reflection on M-Sport either; my understanding is that the throttle went on the first stage.... :confused:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

http://www.wrc.com/live-ticker/live_popup_stream.html

How has the live service park stream been today, worth watching, any interviews ?
Not had access to view as on mobile today ... :(

[mousti]

Not so bad, some interviews and also the press conference was streamed.

And indeed second time in a row that a M-Sport car retires very fast due stuck throttle..

[PLuto]

Start list into second leg: http://rally-base.com/2014/rallye-monte ... TypeId=409 (http://rally-base.com/2014/rallye-monte-carlo-2014/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=409)

[dimviii]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1525506_10152133264658431_1895301195_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1003053_10152133265373431_1494882743_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1044401_10152133265173431_1845082101_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1560651_10152133230898431_1172333182_n.jpg
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 430&type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152127622523431.1073741833.283672888430&type=1)

[Juha_Koo]

Chardonnet with DS3 R3T Max, notice the sound: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9feZQbYq_eo

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vclbcO8ncEg > Guys watch in HD :)

at 10,36 must be the point where Ogier hit the barrier

[dimviii]

Chardonnet flat out :bounce:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9feZQbYq_eo

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjkxviZLMr0#t=190

[bluuford]

Weather for tomorrow:

Looks like it will be pretty boring (in terms ofweather). It will be warmer than initially expected.There is still plenty of rain expected. Mostly light, medium and rarely moderate. Temperature should be mostly between +2 and +5, no snow is expected. I expect a lot of mud..specially on the long stage as it is mostly running between the fields with possible cuts. So, first cars on the road should benefit.
Very low clouds, some fog, nearly no wind and low visibility is expected also. Weather should improve in the late afternoon (around 3 PM) Temperature starts to drop during the last stage.. Some of the last cars may hit some black ice on the higher elevations.
So, water and mud on the road will be keywords for tomorrow.

How many snow tyres are they allowed to use?

[rallyfun]

Now Mister Ogy only needs to survive the sixth stage and he will be an easy leader tomorrow afternoon. Bouffy can't resist him and Meek and Krashica will crash.
You are well f..d up in your head...

[sollitt]

Certainly an interesting first day. But very much a lottery from which very few real conclusions can be drawn. Most telling is that 'normal service' resumed on stages 5 & 6 and we can expect the VW duo to run away from here.

[noel157]

Full on-board of SS3 with Meeke/Nagle. Fast and wet on the way up, different story on the way down and see the added notes from the ice/gravel crew. Full credit to all crews having to drive in such conditions (especially those with slicks), one slip and rally over:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... clbcO8ncEg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vclbcO8ncEg)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Just watched Motors TV UK highlights and was pleasantly surprised... Improved picture quality and good commentary.. So much better than the last time they had WRC. :)

Now for HD version on BT Sport.. :facelick:

[stefanvv]

How many snow tyres are they allowed to use?
"Michelin’s top drivers have a choice of four types of tyre for this year’s Rallye Monte-Carlo, namely a snow tyre with or without studs, plus ‘soft’ and ‘super-soft’ versions of the firm’s asphalt tyre. The RC1 priority drivers have a total allocation of 82 tyres to choose from (24 softs, 24 super-softs, 24 studded snow tyres and 10 snow tyres without studs) but may only use 40 on the rally. "

[SubaruNorway]

FIA really needs to add the narrow studded MC tyre again, the snow parts aren't even worth watching.

[tolis]

Monte carlo highlights now: http://www.hqsport.tv/bt_sport1.php

[dimviii]

2 beers from me Tolis. :p

[tolis]

2 beers from me Tolis. :p
:D

[tolis]

Why did the official WRC Coverage had Melicharek as 10th? Burri is tenth!

[RICARDO75]

Video from Checkpoint Rallye
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wodN_C6-lYw&feature=em-uploademail

[Rally Hokkaido]

Video from Checkpoint Rallye
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wodN_C6-lYw&feature=em-uploademail

Enjoyed watching this one, included some of the lower order cars, too. Thanks for posting it, RICARDO75.

[jonkka]

No more crappy YT or music-filled vids for me... waiting for the full HD highlights on the big tv tonight !!

Yeah, that vid was mostly Michelin tyres and slow motion, very little in the way of actual action of the day and even then, on slow corners.

[WUff1]

wrc.com is struggling again ... :-(

[Bartek]

Does we know, which tyre will be in use in first today loop?

Short info from my friend: dense fog in the morning

[noel157]

Most wearing s/softs with 2 x snow in the boot.

[Micke_VOC]

Any news hos much snow/ice there are on the stages today ?

btw, WRC.com sucks really bad in this new version...
Already four splits on Citroenracing and none on wrc

[Rally Hokkaido]

Mikko ate all his weet-bix this morning, it seems. Everyone on the same tyres today, stage is wet.

[dimviii]

good morning guys.

Weather on stage is small rain, most of the stage is wet with some icy paths.
http://rally-base.com/2014/rallye-monte ... ?ssId=2175 (http://rally-base.com/2014/rallye-monte-carlo-2014/?ssId=2175)

[dimviii]

M-Sport ?@DovenbyHall 13 ???.
Tyres: they can make all the difference at #rallyemontecarlo and all the Fiestas left service with 4 supersoft and 2 non-studded snow

[noel157]

Melicharek going to get caught?

[stefanvv]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzKAdhRT5Uk

[Astro83]

good morning every one... This will be a good day! ;)

[shaitan]

There is still no split time for drivers.

[PLuto]

Melicharek going to get caught?

Yes, yesterday he was usually 4 secs slower that the best drivers (and around 3 secs than Mikkelsen).

[noel157]

Meeke on good pace.

[Astro83]

Meeke, 0.1 after Ogier!! :D

[Bartek]

Citroen racing livetiming is very good, much faster than WRC

[stefanvv]

Good morning. Looks like Hirvonen is in mood for attack

[noel157]

Miles faster than WRC.com.

[noel157]

Melicharek going to get caught?

Yes, yesterday he was usually 4 secs slower that the best drivers (and around 3 secs than Mikkelsen).

Yep. Looks like he's been caught.

[KKS]

Anyone knows internet stream for Sport +TV channel? or any other SS9 live stream?

[PLuto]

Melicharek going to get caught?

Yes, yesterday he was usually 4 secs slower that the best drivers (and around 3 secs than Mikkelsen).

Yep. Looks like he's been caught.

34 km

[Astro83]

Anyone knows internet stream for Sport +TV channel? or any other SS9 live stream?

will it be live?! :bounce:

[Bartek]

Anyone knows internet stream for Sport +TV channel? or any other SS9 live stream?

http://livetv.sx/pl/eventinfo/210477_monte_carlo_rally/ check this 30minutes before start ;)

Very tight, 3 "rookies" are fight for the podium, niiiiiice :)

[vicalju]

CANAL+ DEPORTES (SPAIN) - TODAY 13:00

www.soccer4money.com/canalplusdeportes.html (http://www.soccer4money.com/canalplusdeportes.html)

[stefanvv]

Anyone knows internet stream for Sport +TV channel? or any other SS9 live stream?
Canal+ http://tvenganchado.com/canalplus/deportesop2.php
BT Sport - http://www.hqsport.tv/bt_sport1.php

[Astro83]

oh nice!!

[KKS]

Anyone knows internet stream for Sport +TV channel? or any other SS9 live stream?

http://livetv.sx/pl/eventinfo/210477_monte_carlo_rally/ check this 30minutes before start ;)

Very tight, 3 "rookies" are fight for the podium, niiiiiice :)
Put on bookmarks, TNX!

[Astro83]

I missed, who was stoped on stage??

[KKS]

Protasov - stoped

[jonkka]

Mikko slower than Mikkelsen, oh my...

[WUff1]

Ogier will win this stage - Bouffy second from the splits at half of stage.

[Ucci]

Kubica also on a charge !!

[stefanvv]

Massive time from Ogier, already 2nd I think. Bouffier very fast too

[KKS]

Ogier swith on a jet engine on his Polo WRC :*(

[Rallyper]

Rain playing a role.

BTW, good morning guys and dolls...

[Astro83]

Protasov - stoped

Okey :|

Meeke lost a lot of time sadly. But clearly take no risks witch is good

[miniwintz]

If you want WRC radio on your Android smartphone but you don't have flash to open in the browser, you can have it doing that :

1. get MX Player from the play store https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... r.ad&hl=fr (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.ad&hl=fr)
2. click on the three dots on the top right hand side of the app, select "Network stream"
3. copy and paste this link : http://unas.mpl.miisolutions.net:1935/u ... ylist.m3u8 (http://unas.mpl.miisolutions.net:1935/unas-live08/_definst_/mp4:wrc_radio_eng/playlist.m3u8)
4. click OK and WRC radio should start on your smartphone !!

[Bartek]

Fantastic performance by Bryan !! I hope he will be in podium, go Bryan :)

[jonkka]

Massive time from Ogier, already 2nd I think.

Yes, I think he's already 2nd as well...

[Astro83]

[quote="Bartek"]Fantastic performance by Bryan !! I hope he will be in podium, go Bryan :)[/quote

Yes, Bryan is very fast under these conditions, nothing new but this rally is something special. He's doing very well!! :)

[stefanvv]

Now Bouffier's turn

[dimviii]

excellent performance from Bouffier.Client car ,no much testing.

[KKS]

Protasov - stoped

Okey :|

Meeke lost a lot of time sadly. But clearly take no risks witch is good
Yep looks like tyre change on SS, Protasov do very conservative, no risk strategy and this pay off

[Astro83]

Protasov - stoped

Okey :|

Meeke lost a lot of time sadly. But clearly take no risks witch is good
Yep looks like tyre change on SS, Protasov do very conservative, no risk strategy and this pay off

Okey, nice. They was not off road then. Good. But he have lost ALOT of time... But under these conditions, if you not are Ogier, is stupid to take dumb risks.

[WUff1]

Protasov puncture

[er88]

Bouffier, Meeke and Kubica still outpacing the experienced guys Ostberg, Latvala and Hirvonen. ;)

[Jarek Z]

Good morning. Looks like Hirvonen is in mood for attack

Are you sure? ;)

[MR666]

5 stages in 9 hours.... feel like the rally is dragged out.

[stefanvv]

Good morning. Looks like Hirvonen is in mood for attack

Are you sure? ;)
First 2-3 splits I was, not anymore ;)

[Jarek Z]

Unexpected problem in Kubica's camp. Before the rally he said that his plan for this year is to win at least 1 special stage in WRC. He has done it already on the very first rally, so what now? :D

[Rallyper]

excellent performance from Bouffier.Client car ,no much testing.

Not much testing. But client car at M-Sport this year, I have a feeling means a car much closer, not to say excactly the same as factory cars?

[Ucci]

excellent performance from Bouffier.Client car ,no much testing.

Not much testing. But client car at M-Sport this year, I have a feeling means a car much closer, not to say excactly the same as factory cars?
If you have read Prokop's interview at the end of 2013, he admitted that his car was (is) at least 95% same as factory cars. He has no excuse of beeing slower compare to factory cars due to handicap in technik.....Fair from him !
He even said that all technical improvements were immediately available to him....you need to put €€€ on Malcom's table and you get everything!!

[Rallyper]

excellent performance from Bouffier.Client car ,no much testing.

Not much testing. But client car at M-Sport this year, I have a feeling means a car much closer, not to say excactly the same as factory cars?
If you have read Prokop's interview at the end of 2013, he admitted that his car was (is) at least 95% same as factory cars. He has no excuse of beeing slower compare to factory cars due to handicap in technik.....Fair from him !
He even said that all technical improvements were immediately available to him....you need to put €€€ on Malcom's table and you get everything!!

So that explains it all then. Bouffier has paid or MW paid for his updates, no doubt. In 2012 you couldn´t pay for getting the latest. I know that from close source.

[Jarek Z]

excellent performance from Bouffier.Client car ,no much testing.

Not much testing. But client car at M-Sport this year, I have a feeling means a car much closer, not to say excactly the same as factory cars?
If you have read Prokop's interview at the end of 2013, he admitted that his car was (is) at least 95% same as factory cars. He has no excuse of beeing slower compare to factory cars due to handicap in technik.....Fair from him !
He even said that all technical improvements were immediately available to him....you need to put €€€ on Malcom's table and you get everything!!

Wow! Thanks for this information! I was going to ask about it on the forum, but you gave me the answer before I even asked my question :)

So no more shitty old-spec cars for customers, like it was in previous years?

[dimviii]

VolkswagenRally ?@VolkswagenRally 6 ?????
More rain to come. SS8 about to begin

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeLBIoUIUAAAxO-.jpg

[Astro83]

Wow! Thanks for this information! I was going to ask about it on the forum, but you gave me the answer before I even asked my question :)

So no more shitty old-spec cars for customers, like it was in previous years?[/quote]


For an example,

In Rally Sweden, P.Tidemand will drive a latest spec Fiesta as an privateer for M-Sport. So yes, this year, you can get latest updates even as a privateer. :)

[makinen_fan]

If you want WRC radio on your Android smartphone but you don't have flash to open in the browser, you can have it doing that :

1. get MX Player from the play store https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... r.ad&hl=fr (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.ad&hl=fr)
2. click on the three dots on the top right hand side of the app, select "Network stream"
3. copy and paste this link : http://unas.mpl.miisolutions.net:1935/u ... ylist.m3u8 (http://unas.mpl.miisolutions.net:1935/unas-live08/_definst_/mp4:wrc_radio_eng/playlist.m3u8)
4. click OK and WRC radio should start on your smartphone !!

Brilliant, thanks so much!

[dimviii]

Mikko looses 17 sec at about 3,5 km from Latvala.(1st split)

and 22 sec at 2nd split

[Astro83]

Mikko looses 17 sec at about 3,5 km from Latvala.(1st split)


Hirvonen most have done something...

[dimviii]

Heavy rain, stage is completely wet with some icy paths.
http://rally-base.com/2014/rallye-monte ... ?ssId=2176 (http://rally-base.com/2014/rallye-monte-carlo-2014/?ssId=2176)

[Rallyper]

Yeah, something wrong with Mikko or the car... :(

[jonkka]

Looks like a start-line problem for Mikko, he's been on (Mikkelsen's) pace after split 1

[noel157]

The WRC.com/SIT problem has now reached the Citroen timing site. How hard is it to work out time DIFFERENCES?

Edit- Slowly getting back to normal

[jonkka]

Gotta comment on my comment - on split 3 Mikko loses a lot so my initial judgement is not correct.

[Astro83]

Mist problem for Hirvonen

[Fast Eddie WRC]

If you want WRC radio on your Android smartphone but you don't have flash to open in the browser, you can have it doing that :

1. get MX Player from the play store https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... r.ad&hl=fr (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mxtech.videoplayer.ad&hl=fr)
2. click on the three dots on the top right hand side of the app, select "Network stream"
3. copy and paste this link : http://unas.mpl.miisolutions.net:1935/u ... ylist.m3u8 (http://unas.mpl.miisolutions.net:1935/unas-live08/_definst_/mp4:wrc_radio_eng/playlist.m3u8)
4. click OK and WRC radio should start on your smartphone !!

After all the messing installing app and codecs... 'Cannot play this video'. :evil: