[ERC] 31. Int. Janner Rallye 2014 (03.-05.01.2014):

[hari]

Its more than 128 days to go, but the opening event of the ERC 2014, the 31st Jänner Rallye, has already published all informations.

The event runs from Friday, January 3rd to Sunday, January 5th 2014 over 18 - hopefully snow and ice covered - stages with a total length of 245,60 km.

http://www.ir7.at/j131.jpg

Some useful links:

Website:
http://www.jaennerrallye.at

Rallye Guide:
http://www.jaennerrallye.at/en/rallye-guide.html

Itinerary:
http://www.jaennerrallye.at/uploads/media/ANHANG_I.I_Zeitplan_03.pdf

Accomodation:
http://www.jaennerrallye.at/en/driver/accomodation.html

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Take care that the stages of next year´s Jänner Rally will be held on Saturday and Sunday. The itineray is almost the same than from the 2013 edition. Hopefully the weather will be better next year.

[Jarek Z]

No entry list? :D

[WUff1]

My home Rallye - I´ll be there :) This year I missed it because of my job.

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

The regulations have been published on the rally's website. The entries are opening tomorrow.

[WUff1]

My estimation at the moment about first ERC rally of 2014:

Possible starters:

Gryazin
Baumschlager
Pech ?
Tarabus
Orsak
Kopecky
Lappi ?
Kajetanowicz ?
Besseney
Lukacs
Neubauer
Danzinger
Chentre
Solowow



rather unsure:

Peugeot Rally Academy
Harrach (problems with sponsor)
Bouffier (dependent on his plans 2014)
Cerny (if he gets a car, already sold his R2 and waiting for a R5)



probably not starting:

Andreas Aigner (Subaru starts later according to their business year)
Napoca rally team
Renault Sports (Bonnefis, Consani)
Arai (like Aigner)
Jakes (waiting for his R5)

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Other possible starters could be Lappi, Kopecky, Saibel, Grössing, Brugger and hopefully some scandinavian drivers.

[juergen]

maybe another possible driver ist Raffael Sulzinger. The young German, supported by Walter Röhrl, set 3 best stage times last year in the 2WD categorie with an R2 car against Danzinger (R3), Neubauer (S1600), Besseney (R3), Chentre (R2)...
After that he had 3 punctures, so he was not able to fight for the victory but maybe 2014 he can go for it... ;-)

[PLuto]

I think it is still too early...

[hari]

Qualifying to determine starting positions at Jänner Rallye: Friday, 03.01.2014 - 10.30h

http://www.ir7.at/content/orm_erc_jaenn ... rstage.php (http://www.ir7.at/content/orm_erc_jaenner_rallye_qualifying_powerstage.php)
(The part about powerstage is only for Austrian Championship).

http://www.ir7.at/janq14.jpg

[WUff1]

Two more weeks till entries close.

According to Autosport.cz following entries are talked about:
Baumschlager, Tarabus, Saibel, Tlust´ak, Orsak on Skoda S2000
Valousek, Grössing on Fiesta R5
Bouffier on Peugeot S2000
Harrach, Gassner sen. and jun. on Evo

Not sure: Kopecky

No talks about Lappi.

I´d hope for more "ERC"-drivers entries, otherwise I suppose it´s the last Jänner Rallye in ERC.

Don´t think Peugeot works team will start - suppose they will start season either in Latvia with their old cars or finally at Acropolis with R5.

Aigner probably isn´t starting according to Manfred Stohl.

[Mirek]

It's not according to autosport.cz but somebody's post on our forum. Take it easy.

[PLuto]

And I think it is more wishlist...

[WUff1]

Robert Kubica probably starting according to rallye organizer Ferdinand Staber:
http://www.motorline.cc/rallye/2013/Div ... 83928.html (http://www.motorline.cc/rallye/2013/Diverses/ERC-ORM-J%C3%A4nnerrallye-2014-Kubica-Start-ist-wahrscheinlich-183928.html)

[RS]

Robert Kubica probably starting according to rallye organizer Ferdinand Staber:
http://www.motorline.cc/rallye/2013/Div ... 83928.html (http://www.motorline.cc/rallye/2013/Diverses/ERC-ORM-J%C3%A4nnerrallye-2014-Kubica-Start-ist-wahrscheinlich-183928.html)

Practice for Monte I guess :)

[WUff1]

Robert Kubica probably starting according to rallye organizer Ferdinand Staber:
http://www.motorline.cc/rallye/2013/Div ... 83928.html (http://www.motorline.cc/rallye/2013/Diverses/ERC-ORM-J%C3%A4nnerrallye-2014-Kubica-Start-ist-wahrscheinlich-183928.html)

Practice for Monte I guess :)

Yes I suppose.

Also Gryazin starting according to Austrian touring Club news (screenshot in the link above) with his Fiesta S2000.

[WUff1]

No Skoda Motorsport this year - they start in Latvia.
Bad news for Jänner Rallye!

[PLuto]

Yes I suppose.

Also Gryazin starting according to Austrian touring Club news (screenshot in the link above) with his Fiesta S2000.

Gryazin confirmed his start few weeks ago.

[PLuto]

No Skoda Motorsport this year - they start in Latvia.
Bad news for Jänner Rallye!

Yes, event is too early for them and they prefer christmas holidays instead of testing...

[WUff1]

Well Jänner 2014 could really develop a disaster, for organizers - and fans. Who wants to pay 40 Euros for a rally pass just to watch the Austrian drivers and just the one or other Czech driver who isn´t boycotting Jänner 2014 because of it´s date, and hardly any international guests, and above all no works Team like Peugot or Skoda participating.
Now with Latvia at an earlier date and Sibiu as snow rallies I see ERC 2015 with only these two rallies remaining as winter rallies, I´d even bet on this.

Rally organizers must be desperate to announce Blomqvist as a safety car driver and having nothing else to tell to the press ... Even ERC official Homepage seems to have blocked Jänner from the news.

As a local boy i find it very sorry, but Jänner can´t move the date, the organizers are just hobbyists, who are doing the Rally in their Christmas holidays. That was already mentioned as critical for the continued existence of Jänner as an international rally by several observers in the last years, and it looks like this is breaking this Rally.

[RS]

I guess the "Wintercup" idea was an incentive to get some guys to go there.

Did ERC people try to persuade them to change the date?

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

I guess the "Wintercup" idea was an incentive to get some guys to go there.

Did ERC people try to persuade them to change the date?

We've discussed this issue already in the last years. There are a couple of reasons why a change of the date is hardly possible for the organizers.
1) It would be nearly impossible to find volunteers after Jan 6th when the Christmas holidays are ending in Austria.

2) if the postpone the rally one or two weeks, there would be a High risk that the rally takes place on the same weekend as the Kitzbühel skiing downhill race which is - hardly understandable for non austrians - the most important Sport event in Austria.

I'm really afraid that the 2014 edition could be very critical for the future of this great rally.

[RS]

We've discussed this issue already in the last years. There are a couple of reasons why a change of the date is hardly possible for the organizers.
1) It would be nearly impossible to find volunteers after Jan 6th when the Christmas holidays are ending in Austria.


But there are rallies in Austria outside of the Christmas holidays are there not?

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

We've discussed this issue already in the last years. There are a couple of reasons why a change of the date is hardly possible for the organizers.
1) It would be nearly impossible to find volunteers after Jan 6th when the Christmas holidays are ending in Austria.


But there are rallies in Austria outside of the Christmas holidays are there not?

Of course there are. But Jänner Rallye (Jänner = january ) in july wouldn't make sense.

[Mirek]

Actually the summer mini edition (Pirelli Star Driver) wasn't that bad :)

But sure Jänner shall continue as snow rally however it will be difficult to stay in both ERC and MM?R in its date.

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Actually the summer mini edition (Pirelli Star Driver) wasn't that bad :)

But sure Jänner shall continue as snow rally however it will be difficult to stay in both ERC and MM?R in its date.

Both Pirelli Star driver editions were great. But there were only two short circuit stages - in autum. I think, that most stages of the Jänner Rallye (except Pierbach which is a very twisty stage and the first half of the Schönau - St. Leonhard stage) would be way to fast on dry tarmac. Also because of the mainly very smooth tarmac.

On the other hand the costs for the organsisation of the rally would be much higher, because of crop and field damages. And the farmers in Upper Austria are quite bullheaded and have no understanding for the rally.

[pantealex]

Robert Kubica probably starting according to rallye organizer Ferdinand Staber

with Fiesta R5 ?

I read it somewhere today (and M-Sport asked FIA about gear shifting changes)

[WUff1]

Robert Kubica probably starting according to rallye organizer Ferdinand Staber

with Fiesta R5 ?

I read it somewhere today (and M-Sport asked FIA about gear shifting changes)

I don´t know, and by now I´d rate it only as a rumour - as long as entry list isn´t being published.

Fixed starters seem to be Tarabus and Pech, Valousek wants to start but isn´t sure of his budget.

But in total a very poor entry list seems more than likely as time goes on - an entry list which probably nearly would be the same if Jänner would only count for Austrian championship and European Cup Central Coeff. 10 (like Rallye Waldviertel).

[PLuto]

But in total a very poor entry list seems more than likely as time goes on - an entry list which probably nearly would be the same if Jänner would only count for Austrian championship and European Cup Central Coeff. 10 (like Rallye Waldviertel).

Are you joking? Without ERC and Czech championship you will not have drivers like Pech, Tarabus, Gryazin, Raoux, Lukacs, Bessenyey...

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

But in total a very poor entry list seems more than likely as time goes on - an entry list which probably nearly would be the same if Jänner would only count for Austrian championship and European Cup Central Coeff. 10 (like Rallye Waldviertel).

Are you joking? Without ERC and Czech championship you will not have drivers like Pech, Tarabus, Gryazin, Raoux, Lukacs, Bessenyey...

+1

Don't think that I am a daydreamer. I'm also afraid that this year's entre list won't be very good. But the history of the last editions has showed, that most entries of the jänner Rallye are coming in very close before the closing date of the entries.

[danon]

Stig Blomqvist celebrates anniversary in Yaner rally - http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... D0%B8.html (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=bg&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fbgnrc.info%2Foshte-na-saita%2Ferc%2Fitem%2F%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B3-%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BA%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%81%D 1%82-%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0-%D1%8E%D0%B1%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B9-%D0%B2-%D1%8F%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%80-%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8.html)

http://bgnrc.info/cache/com_zoo/images/1986-MC-Stig-Blomqvist_3db85b1a5f2aa1a4fbd00d661f64322e.jpg

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Any News if Kajto will start at the Jänner Rallye?

[WUff1]

http://www.nachrichten.at/sport/mehr_sp ... 09,1257975 (http://www.nachrichten.at/sport/mehr_sport/Kommt-Kubica-zur-Jaenner-Rallye;art109,1257975)

Rally Chief Ferdinand Staber promises a stronger starter field than last year - we will see ...

I wonder which Fiesta R5 he means - Kubica, Grössing, Valousek or another one? Gryazin gets his R5 later (in march?) I thought - and it was written he starts with Fiesta S2000.

[PLuto]

There is one Fiesta R5 entered, but nobody from drivers you wrote.

[WUff1]

Thank You.

[mousti]

Would be great if Lotos invest also in Kajto for an international program with a Fiesta R5..

[WUff1]

Some Austrian drivers, also some known ones, are thinking about starting only in national (Austrian) championship, not in ERC. It´s because of the ERC tyre rules for 18" tarmac tyres with the "E"-sign, which results in some uncertainty in Austrian rallye scene. It´s also about gambling with better roads when starting later after the ERC-drivers, and roads being cleared from snow and ice then, if there´s any at all. On the other hand there´s the risk of obtaining worse notional times for national rally championship participants if a stage is cancelled.

http://www.motorline.cc/rallye/2013/Div ... 84141.html (http://www.motorline.cc/rallye/2013/Diverses/ERC-ORM-J%C3%A4nnerrallye-2014-Schwieriger-Ritt-auf-den-Gummi-Paragraphen-184141.html)

[WUff1]

B.t.w., the Fiesta R5 entry is identified. It´s not an Austrian driver, but one from a neighbouring country - so it´s not Kajto too.

[Jarek Z]

B.t.w., the Fiesta R5 entry is identified. It´s not an Austrian driver, but one from a neighbouring country

So it must be someone from
Czech Republic
Slovakia
Hungary
Germany
Switzerland
Liechtenstein
Italy
or Slovenia

Are you going to reveal this name or do we need to hire a private detective? ;)

[evoIX]

Czech Republic or Slovakia.

[Mirek]

I guess it's Odložilík but it's just my guessing so take it easy.

[WUff1]

I guess it's Odložilík but it's just my guessing so take it easy.

Yes, he was mentioned in german rallye Magazin forum.

[Tom206wrc]

Peugeot-Sport crews(Breen and Abbring)didn't enter Jänner yet ??? :confused:

[WUff1]

Nothing heard of it, but they´ll probably not start until March (Acropolis) when 208 R5 will finally be homologated.

[mousti]

Peugeot-Sport crews(Breen and Abbring)didn't enter Jänner yet ??? :confused:
Official crews of Skoda and Peugeot will debut their year normally in Liepaja.

[sindroms]

Peugeot-Sport crews(Breen and Abbring)didn't enter Jänner yet ??? :confused:
Official crews of Skoda and Peugeot will debut their year normally in Liepaja.

Yes, Škoda announced it already. Any source regarding Peugeot team?

[WUff1]

It was somewhere written they confirmed Acropolis.

Skoda doesn´t normally start their season in Latvia - this year you´re right, but it´s not "normally". The last two years they started in Austria, and last year Latvia already was an ERC Rally.

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Are the rumours, that Kubica will start with a Fiesta RRC true? Entries are closing tommorow.

[WUff1]

As one could hear it from many different sources, I suppose it´s true.

No other rumours heard of new entries beside Gryazin, Pech, Tarabus, Odlozilik, Raoux - and in PC-cup Lukacs, in 2WD Besseney and Sulzinger

[had_zachau]

Odlozilik with Fiesta R5

http://kromerizsky.denik.cz/ostatni_reg ... 31208.html (http://kromerizsky.denik.cz/ostatni_region/vitezny-odlozilik-byli-jsme-radi-ze-jsme-auto-dotlacili-do-cile-20131208.html)

[PLuto]

Are the rumours, that Kubica will start with a Fiesta RRC true? Entries are closing tommorow.

Yes. And he will not be only one Pole on start of Janner...

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Are the rumours, that Kubica will start with a Fiesta RRC true? Entries are closing tommorow.

Yes. And he will not be only one Pole on start of Janner...

Hopefully Kajto and Solowow will start too.

[Mirek]

Yes. And he will not be only one Pole on start of Janner...

There is plenty of poles around the roads of Jänner rallye :D

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

With Kubica (and hopefully the one other good polish driver more at the start) I hope to meet many polish spectators.

[WUff1]

@Fiat-131-Abarth: Hope so, too. The other important point will of course be the weather.

Watching the weather maps there´s no chance of winter, even of cold temperatures, until at least around 20th of December.
Just a look at Pierbach (SS 1/4) at the moment: http://www.pierbach.tk/

But afterwards weather seems to be getting more unstable, with more precipitation - and more chances of colder temperatures - but it still isn´t sure. Weather maps go until end of December at the Moment.

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

I think, that right now nobody can say how the weather will be on the rally weekend. At the moment it looks like there will be no snow before Christmas. But afterwards everything is possible.

[WUff1]

Media news about Andi Aigner at Jänner Rallye: http://www.motorline.cc/rallye/2013/Div ... 84233.html (http://www.motorline.cc/rallye/2013/Diverses/ERC-ORM-J%C3%A4nnerrallye-2014-Stohl-Racing-im-Winterstress-184233.html)

[WUff1]

Austrian 2WD-champion 2013 Michael Böhm on Fiesta S2000.

[RS]

Aigner in a 207 S2000 would be nice for Janner. I hope Kubica has some competition.

[PLuto]

Aigner in a 207 S2000 would be nice for Janner. I hope Kubica has some competition.

Baumschlager and Pech will be fast too :)

[WUff1]

Aigner in a 207 S2000 would be nice for Janner. I hope Kubica has some competition.

Baumschlager and Pech will be fast too :)

And probably the second Polish driver mentioned by you - if it´s the one I´m thinking about - too ;)

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

I was visiting relatives who are living the Liebenau and Unterweissenbach stage today. The forest roads there are fully covered with snow and ice. But as I mentioned before nobody can predict the weather in three weeks.

[Plhus]

Any photos?

[tolis]

So, who are the confirmed entrires so far?

Fiesta R5
Kubica
Odlozilik

Fiesta S2000
Bohm

Peugeot 207 S2000
Aigner ?

Mini S2000 1.6T
Pech ?

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Any photos?

Sorry. I have not taken any photos. But all the snow and ice will be gone next week, when it should become very warm.

[WUff1]

@tolis: In addition what is known so far from different sources:

Kubica: RRC, not R5 (his gear shift lever is only allowed in WRC, RRC and S2000, not in R5)

Skoda Fabia S2000: Baumschlager, Tarabus

Peugeot 207 S2000: J.M. Raoux, Mayer

Fiesta S2000: Gryazin

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Maybe David Glachs with Polo S2000.

[Plhus]

And Kris Rosenberger?

[WUff1]

I don´t know. He wanted to change to a GT or historic class, so I suppose Glachs´ Polo is his old car - there´s no other "old" Polo S2000 in Austria.

[PLuto]

And Kris Rosenberger?

I think he will start with historic Porsche.

[Bartek]

Kajto told in interview after handball match that his first rally in 2014 season is close :)

[WUff1]

Kajto told in interview after handball match that his first rally in 2014 season is close :)

Could also be Monte ;)

[WUff1]

Kubica, Kajetanowicz and Aigner now official, Baumschlager thinking about starting only in national championship:

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/in ... index.html (http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/int/nachrichten/news-detail/d/2013/12/17/jaenner-rallye-kubica-vs-aigner/index.html)

Entry list is not too bad, from an Eastern European point of view it´s even excellent, but in total it could be better, because of hardly any Western European drivers starting, except for Gassner jun. and sen., Sulzinger (all Germany) and J.M. Raoux (France) . This year more Ford than Skoda in the entries of S2000/RRC/R5 category.


EDIT: Bouffier (207 S2000) and Valousek (Fiesta R5) as late entries true?

[WUff1]

Also Orsak named as late entry on his Fabia.

[WUff1]

Orsak is wrong, but Bouffier and Valda seem to be realistic

[liposh]

If Orsak will drive this season (or this millenium) he should definitelly start at Janner. Why do you think he won´t?

[Mirek]

He won't be there.

[WUff1]

I think he would have entered, but because of private reasons he´s not able to start at Jänner - sure we´ll see him later in season.

[PLuto]

Jaroslav Orsak is not entered and will not start on Janner Rallye. He will start his season later.

[PLuto]

Pavel Valousek is entered, he hopes for start with Fiesta R5, but nothing is sure yet...

[Ralph-Mario]

Entry list :

http://forum.rallye-magazin.de/attachme ... te-erc.pdf (http://forum.rallye-magazin.de/attachments/rallye-talk/62306d1387366382-em-jaenner-rallye-3-5-januar-2014-j-nnerrallye-2014-nennliste-erc.pdf)

[tolis]

Entry list :

http://forum.rallye-magazin.de/attachme ... te-erc.pdf (http://forum.rallye-magazin.de/attachments/rallye-talk/62306d1387366382-em-jaenner-rallye-3-5-januar-2014-j-nnerrallye-2014-nennliste-erc.pdf)
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Top 30 entries

1 RK M-SPORT WRT Robert Kubica POL Ford Fiesta S 2000
2 Stohl Racing Andreas Aigner Barbara Watzl AUT AUT Peugeot 207 S2000
3 Sports Racing Technologies Vasily Gryazin Dmitry Chumak LVA LVA Ford Fiesta S2000
4 Lotos Rallye Team Kajetan Kajetanowicz Jaroslaw Baran POL POL Ford Fiesta R5
5 EuroOil-Invelt Team Vaclav Pech Petr Uhel CZE CZE Mini John Cooper 2000
6 BRR Baumschlager Rallye&Racing Raimund Baumschlager Klaus Wicha AUT DEU Skoda Fabia S2000
7 Delimax Team Pavel Valousek Martina Skardova CZE CZE Ford Fiesta R5
8 Simone Tempestini Simone Tempestini Dorin Pulpea ITA ROU Subaru Impreza R4
9 Antonin Tlustak Antonin Tlustak Ladislav Kucera CZE CZE Skoda Fabia S2000
11 Subaru Czech Duck Racing Jan Cerny Pavel Kohout CZE CZE Subaru Impreza STI
12 Beppo Harrach Beppo Harrach Leopold Welsersheimb AUT AUT Mitsubishi Evo IX R4
14 Robert Consani Robert Consani Vincent Landais ITA FRA Peugeot 207 S2000
15 The Boar-Proracing Vitaliy Pushkar Ivan Mishyn UKR UKR Mitsubishi Evo X R4
16 TRT Czech Rally Sport Roman Odlozilik Martin Turecek CZE CZE Ford Fiesta R5
18 Tatai Arèna SE Lukàcs Kornèl Màrk Mesterhàzi HUN HUN Mitsubishi Evo IX
19 Jean-Michel Raoux Jean-Michel Raoux Sabrina De Castelli FRA FRA Peugeot 207 S2000
20 Czech National Team Jaromir Tarabus Daniel Trunkàt CZE CZE Skoda Fabia S2000
21 Stohl Racing Team Hermann Neubauer Bernhard Ettel AUT AUT Subaru Impreza STI R4
22 BRR Baumschlager Rallye&Racing Walter Mayer Benedikt Hofmann AUT DEU Peugeot 207 S2000
23 Èrdi Tibor Jun. Tibor Èrdi Zsiros Gàbor HUN HUN Subaru Impreza R4
24 SAS Zlin Radek Mifka Tomas Plachy CZE CZE Mitsubishi Evo IX
25 Rallye Club Team Mühlviertel Martin Fischerlehner Tobias Unterweger AUT AUT Mitsubishi Evo IX
26 Klub Fox Racing Team v ACR Marcel Tucek Petr Dufek CZE CZE Subaru Impreza STI
27 Rallye Club Team Mühlviertel Ernst Haneder Daniela Ertl AUT AUT Mitsubishi Evo IX
28 Martin Hudek Martin Hudek Petr Picka CZE CZE Mitsubishi Evo IX
30 VW Motorsport Team Austria David Glachs Daniel Foissner AUT AUT VW Polo S2000

[PLuto]

You can find whole entry list here: http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=15925

[Jarek Z]

It would be great to see a 1-2 for the Lotos Team, but I think that Aigner will be the winner.

[PLuto]

Dont understimate Baumschlager. And I think that also Pech should be fast...

[WUff1]

Dont understimate Baumschlager. And I think that also Pech should be fast...

+1


Bouffier and both Gassners finally not entered, but in total a more broad entry list in regard of regular ERC starters like Consani, Pushkar and both Napoca Rally Academy drivers as first starters at Jänner - even if the ERC works teams are missing.

Hope guys like Aigner and Kajto can raise funds for a full ERC campaign in top cars.

[Raven]

How many drivers (from Janner Rallye entry list) are really thinking about ERC campaign? Only Kajto and Aigner (is he really?)?

[PLuto]

How many drivers (from Janner Rallye entry list) are really thinking about ERC campaign? Only Kajto and Aigner (is he really?)?

Aigner, Kajto, maybe some events Tempestini, Tlustak, Cerny, maybe Consani, Pushkar, Lukacs, Raoux, Tarabus, Neubauer, Hudec, Hadik, Bessenyey, Turk, Stratieva...

[RS]

Some interesting drivers on the Janner start list so we have something to watch on the first weekend of January, but I guess the real season won't start until Latvia.

[WUff1]

Neubauer is going for ERC campaign with Subaru and Stohl Racing. Aigner ist still not sure about his plans after Jänner, but he hopes to.

Don´t think we´ll see Bouffier in an ERC campaign 2014 except for some few rallies, but not as much as 2013.

In total I think Kajto could be dangerous to Skoda´s and Peugeot´s plans and take more points as the works teams would like him to. Aigner detto if he can stay with S2000 and change to R5 in summer as mentioned by Manfred Stohl.

Real season starts in Greece when the PSA R5 cars are homologated. Maybe Peugeot could regret missing 3 rallies in the first half of the season and losing one result, who knows ...

[Raven]

How many drivers (from Janner Rallye entry list) are really thinking about ERC campaign? Only Kajto and Aigner (is he really?)?

Aigner, Kajto, maybe some events Tempestini, Tlustak, Cerny, maybe Consani, Pushkar, Lukacs, Raoux, Tarabus, Neubauer, Hudec, Hadik, Bessenyey, Turk, Stratieva...
I meant the Drivers, not just the drivers ;)

[Mirek]

How many drivers (from Janner Rallye entry list) are really thinking about ERC campaign? Only Kajto and Aigner (is he really?)?

Aigner, Kajto, maybe some events Tempestini, Tlustak, Cerny, maybe Consani, Pushkar, Lukacs, Raoux, Tarabus, Neubauer, Hudec, Hadik, Bessenyey, Turk, Stratieva...

I think Pond?lí?ek wants to do more ERC events too.

How many drivers will do the qualification? The seeding of the list is very strange... Anyway it's good list in my opinion.

[PLuto]

I meant the Drivers, not just the drivers ;)

All of them are faster drivers than you :disturb:

[PLuto]

The seeding of the list is very strange...

Seeding of the list is one of the big problems of Janner every year...

[PLuto]

How many drivers will do the qualification? The seeding of the list is very strange... Anyway it's good list in my opinion.

All FIA and ERC drivers.

[PLuto]

I would like to know from where has Andi Aigner and Vasily Gryazin the FIA priority...

[Juha_Koo]

I wonder why Kubica's codriver is still TBA, I was pretty sure he would be going with Gerber after the Rondes...?

Also, does Valousek have some further plans next season?

[Mirek]

As he is not entered for MM?R in the list I guess he will again only do few events for which he would find money...

[PLuto]

As he is not entered for MM?R in the list I guess he will again only do few events for which he would find money...

I think he should be automatically classified in MMCR as he has czech licence.

[tolis]

No factory Skoda's, no Bouffier, no Delecour, no Solowow... :(
I hope for better ERC!

[PLuto]

No factory Skoda's, no Bouffier, no Delecour, no Solowow... :(
I hope for better ERC!

For Skoda it is too early, Bouffier and Delecour will start on Monte, for Solowow it is too early too (and without to be sure with snow ; he is not doing whole championship, but only selected events).

[Mirek]

No factory Skoda's, no Bouffier, no Delecour, no Solowow... :(
I hope for better ERC!

That was all known already a long time a go so it's no surprise.

[WUff1]

Instead of factory Skoda´s it´s factory Ford´s ;)

You get WRC2 champion and multiple ERC stage winner Kubica (you won´t see him too much in ERC 2014 I suppose), and with Kajetanowicz, Pech, Baumschlager, Aigner, Tarabus and Gryazin drivers who finished on podiums of ERC-rallies in 2013 (I hope I didn´t forget someone) - or at least were in top 3 sometime during the rallies. Besides ERC-PC and ERC 2WD champions of 2013 - so what do you excpect? Of course Skoda and Peugeot are missing, but Skoda will do only 6-8 rallies out of 12 (so only a little bit more than half of the rallies - something different to 2013) - and Peugeot probably starts in March and misses first 3 rallies.

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Under all circumstances the entry list is very nice. Does anybody know, why Gassner sen. and jun. are missing? Are any possible late entries known.

[Mirek]

Kajto's livery
https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 7900_n.jpg (https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/s720x720/1468697_726102050748002_2054047900_n.jpg)

[RS]

Kajto's livery
https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 7900_n.jpg (https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/s720x720/1468697_726102050748002_2054047900_n.jpg)

very nice :)

it will be interesting to see what he can do away from his homeland. I hope he will be able to compete at the top.

[PLuto]

it will be interesting to see what he can do away from his homeland. I hope he will be able to compete at the top.

Kajto was on Janner last year. And he has more experience abroad (for example Ypres or Waldviertel).

[Jarek Z]

it will be interesting to see what he can do away from his homeland. I hope he will be able to compete at the top.

Kajto was on Janner last year. And he has more experience abroad (for example Ypres or Waldviertel).

But it has to be said he has very little experience abroad, compared to many other drivers on the entry list.

[Munkvy]

It's good to see Aigner finally getting a run in an S2000 (is this his first?). Shame its not a Skoda or an R5, but will be good to see how his speed is compared to his frankly impressive drives in a Subaru.

[Andre Oliveira]

Proton on 2012: http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php ... eas-Aigner (http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=63&t=Andreas-Aigner)

[liposh]

Aigner´s career was little bit bittersweet until now (WRC driver at 22, PWRC champion at 24 and then...) So let´s hope the trend will change and we will see him in best possible car from now on. He is still quite young.

[WUff1]

Kajto already won stages this year at Jänner, but how he beat Baumschlager at Waldviertel Rallye with a worse car was really impressing. So now with a better car and watching his performance at Rally Poland this year beating Bouffier, Kopecky, Breen etc. I think he´s a strong tipp for winning. But I´d rate Baumschlager´s and Pech´s chances also very high this year, at least better than the last two years. Of course Kubica is a high tipp for winning too, but everbody knows he´s drifting off road a lot of times - and I think nobody knows how he performs on snow and ice (if there´s any).
Aigner startet two times at Jänner before - but he never reached the finish line, so his performance can´t be estimated.

[liposh]

I also expect Tarabus to be very near the top and waiting for Top driver´s mistakes.

[WUff1]

I also expect Tarabus to be very near the top and waiting for Top driver´s mistakes.


Yes, me too.

[Jarek Z]

I also expect Tarabus to be very near the top and waiting for Top driver´s mistakes.

Really? Have you seen his stage times in Waldviertel? He lost over 2 minutes to Kajto, who was simply cruising to the finish line in a worse car...
http://www.ewrc-results.com/final.php?e=6635

[Mirek]

Since when is Jänner on gravel? Tarabus did some two or three gravel rallies in his whole life...

On Czech asphalts he is usually very close to Pech or Kresta in speed. In some occasion his speed was +- same with the two and that's not bad at all. Of course abroad he is slower due to missing experience and a questionable co-driver (who on the other hand pays it all).

[Mirek]

Kajto testing already in livery

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmtNS8kVqko

[mousti]

And a galery of his pre event testing.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 074&type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.691347084231896.1073741859.125298694170074&type=1)

[kober]

Any word on Kubica's co-driver?

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

In the regional newspaper "Oberösterreichische Nachrichten" it was written, that Hirvonen could start in a course car. Does anybody know something more about this rumour?

[PLuto]

In the regional newspaper "Oberösterreichische Nachrichten" it was written, that Hirvonen could start in a course car. Does anybody know something more about this rumour?

Maybe as gravel crew for Robert? :D

[wwbroe]

In the regional newspaper "Oberösterreichische Nachrichten" it was written, that Hirvonen could start in a course car. Does anybody know something more about this rumour?

Maybe as gravel crew for Robert? :D

Good idea, i am sure he can be of any use to help Robert :D

[Raven]

I meant the Drivers, not just the drivers ;)

All of them are faster drivers than you :disturb:

Maybe, but sometimes watching them makes me wonder if it is really true :laugh:
For sure it's not exciting to see their trials to be fast :z

I'm the type of spectator that enjoys quality, not quantity. Unfortunately quality and quantity are very rare seen together in modern rallying.

[Mirek]

In the regional newspaper "Oberösterreichische Nachrichten" it was written, that Hirvonen could start in a course car. Does anybody know something more about this rumour?

I read also that Pirelli might have no ERC tyres ready which can cause problem for Bamuschlager and others.

[WUff1]

Article about tyre regulation in austrian media - from Michelin:

http://www.motorline.cc/rallye/2013/Div ... 84225.html (http://www.motorline.cc/rallye/2013/Diverses/ERC-ORM-J%C3%A4nnerrallye-2014-Reglement-ist-sonnenklar----184225.html)

[PLuto]

Article about tyre regulation in austrian media - from Michelin:

http://www.motorline.cc/rallye/2013/Div ... 84225.html (http://www.motorline.cc/rallye/2013/Diverses/ERC-ORM-J%C3%A4nnerrallye-2014-Reglement-ist-sonnenklar----184225.html)

I dont understand the german correctly (also after using translator), but all cars in ERC field must use NEW specification of tyres for tarmac (which is valid from 1.5.2013), actually there is no exception for use older tyres (like was waiver for Pirelli and Yokohama in second half of previous year). And it is not only for 18" tyres, but for all cars (also smaller).

To use snow tyres, it shouldnt be homologated, but must fill the regulations prescribed in regulations/bulletin.

[WUff1]

Yes, that´s what is written in the arcticle. So that´s a problem for Baumschlager, because Jänner is his only international appearance.

[WUff1]

Simon Wagner not starting because of his heavy accident at Rallye Waldviertel (too much costs):
http://www.motorline.cc/rallye/em/2014/ ... 84361.html (http://www.motorline.cc/rallye/em/2014/2013/Rallye-%25D6M/ERC-ORM-J%C3%A4nnerrallye-2014-Schweren-Herzens-nicht-am-Start-184361.html)

[liposh]

...And what is the situation with Yokohama tyres right now?

[Mirek]

I have no idea about other tyres but their 18" asphalt ERC tyres have been in use since Sanremo.

[Rasantes]

Andreas Aigner and Hermann Neubauer testing.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 187&type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.575477065874449.1073741843.406196369469187&type=1)

https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1512679_575479699207519_488371735_n.jpg

https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1476372_575481472540675_1693160695_n.jpg

https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1511421_575479039207585_896741958_n.jpg

https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1476372_575481469207342_2100917770_n.jpg

[JieM]

Video Best of Jänner Rallye -> http://youtu.be/bbBRykYPoNo

[PLuto]

List of tarmac tyres approved for ERC 2014 - http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/soubor.php?f=15413

[WUff1]

Livery of Polo S2000 driven by local starter David Glachs, ex-Rosenberger, probably last rally for this rather old car at all:

http://www.motorline.cc/gallery/index.p ... 983/seen=0 (http://www.motorline.cc/gallery/index.php/Fotos-VW-Polo-S2000-von-David-Glachs/gallery=4983/seen=0)


Robert Consani testing his Delta Rally 207 S2000 before Christmas:

https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 2418_n.jpg (https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/s403x403/1461576_283907841734161_1890422418_n.jpg)

[WUff1]

Jänner Rallye 2014 will probably be a pure tarmac Rally - it doesn´t look like weather is changing much, it will still be much too warm for this time of the year. So definitely no snow and maybe some small bits of ice would be a realistic scenario:

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MS_1449_ens.png

The horizontal lines in the middle show the temperature in at about 1500 meters above sea level, so at Jänner Rallye area it´s even some degrees warmer. The bottom lines show the expected preciptitation

Bad non-winter weather for the second year in a row - no good requirements for the continuing existence of a winter rally ... It seems like Jänner Rallye is suffering from change of climate.

[Wim_Impreza]

I saw it was 17,8 degrees in Austria on Tuesday in a for me not known village / city, unbelievable.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Maciej Szczepaniak, codriver of Kosciuszko, will be co-driver of Kubica at Janner Rally...

[mousti]

http://instagram.com/p/idTmabuuAe/

Kubica testing for Jänner.

[thuGG]

Kubica vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=386xGnGgEqE

[MikeDeHigh]

We are from MikeDeHigh.com and we are coming to Jännerrallye for the first time now.

Could anybody please give us any tips / advise for good photo / video spots, please?


Michel & Marije - MikeDehigh.com

[WRC1]

my pictures from Test session today!

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/in ... index.html (http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/int/galerien/2013/jaenner-test/index.html)

[thuGG]

A few videos from Kubica tests:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdzupGGAC_Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh1zaceZ_2k
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=800058360010136
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=70 ... =2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=701002419918757&set=vb.555335824485418&type=2&theater)

[RS]

A few videos from Kubica tests:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdzupGGAC_Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh1zaceZ_2k
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=800058360010136
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=70 ... =2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=701002419918757&set=vb.555335824485418&type=2&theater)

Seems to be suffering quite bad understeer in the first video, but it could just be tyres/conditions.

As well as the gearshift issue, it makes sense for him to be in the RRC for Janner as it is more similar to his WRCar for next year. Shame that it sounds less spectacular than my vacuum cleaner, but it will be interesting to see how he gets on. As always, I expect him to have the speed to win but whether he does or not is a different matter...

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Any news, if Valousek has secured the budget to start at the Jänner Rallye.

[Rallying UK]

KUBICA: All videos from Robert Kubica’s recent PET for Jännerrallye 2014, are here:

http://storify.com/RallyingUK/robert-kubica-tests-for-jannerrallye-2013

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7slFRqoylA

[dimviii]

Kubica test onboard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drc4qsfFj7U#t=133

[WUff1]

When being in Freistadt the last days one could even see snow Southeast and Northeast of Freistadt, especially in forest parts, but even in the Sandl-Liebenau area (SS 2/5 - highest part of the rally) I couldn´t observe snow on the roads - only on non public gravel forest roads, but not on public tarmac roads.

[Jarek Z]

Still no chance for snow in Austria? We have 7C today in Poland :(

[Jarek Z]

Thanks Wuff1! You answered my question before I even posted it :D

[WUff1]

Sorry, Southwest of Freistadt! But there are hardly signs of snow southeast of Freistadt, where most of the stages take place (been to Lasberg and Pregarten).
Even on the higher parts of qualifying stage there´s some snow, but as mentioned non on the roads.

But ice (white frost) and black ice could be a factor, as observed on saturday.

Being back there on friday.

[hari]

Fotos BRR testing for Jänner Rallye 2014:
Raimund Baumschlager, Skoda Fabia S2000 / Walter Mayer, Peugeot 207 S2000

http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_ ... e_2014.php (http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_test_301213_brr_raimund_baumschlager_ vor_jaenner_rallye_2014.php)

http://www.ir7.at/hc1.jpg
http://www.ir7.at/hc2.jpg
http://www.ir7.at/hc3.jpg

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

At the moment it looks like it will be a pure tarmac rally. But at least the weather should be better than last year. I don't know how the stages look like in Liebenau, St. Oswald or Unterweissenbach, but in the region around Pregarten there is absolute no snow. Even in the forests there aren't any icy patches.

[adr17]

A few videos from Kubica tests:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdzupGGAC_Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh1zaceZ_2k
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=800058360010136
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=70 ... =2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=701002419918757&set=vb.555335824485418&type=2&theater)

Seems to be suffering quite bad understeer in the first video, but it could just be tyres/conditions.

As well as the gearshift issue, it makes sense for him to be in the RRC for Janner as it is more similar to his WRCar for next year. Shame that it sounds less spectacular than my vacuum cleaner, but it will be interesting to see how he gets on. As always, I expect him to have the speed to win but whether he does or not is a different matter...

Fia have screwed kubica with a new gear cut mininium time as it is paddle , a time longer than a manual shift would take, as vw have complained about him being allowed paddle which is a shame

I think Robert is fighting to get same time allowed as manual , I think he has enough of a disadvantage in other way

[hari]

Video: BRR Test for Jänner Rallye 2014
Raimund Baumschlager, Walter Mayer

http://vimeo.com/ir7at/brr-test-jaenner-rallye-2014

http://www.ir7.at/hc4.jpg

[WUff1]

Delta Rally (Raoux, Consani) preparing: https://scontent-b-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 6544_n.jpg (https://scontent-b-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1526805_285441738247438_1073746544_n.jpg)

[Ucci]

At the moment it looks like it will be a pure tarmac rally. But at least the weather should be better than last year. I don't know how the stages look like in Liebenau, St. Oswald or Unterweissenbach, but in the region around Pregarten there is absolute no snow. Even in the forests there aren't any icy patches.

I must say from spectator view that I'm extremly happy to have an absolute tarmac rally. The speeds are much higher and with gravel on the tarmac due to cutting of the bends it will be very attractive. Whenever there was snow during Jänner Rally everything seemed so slow-there are no studs allowed in Austria !
Rallying on snow&ice in Scandinavia is very attractive due to allowed studs, without studs is boring.....
Expect small group of rally fans from Slovenia !

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Studs are allowed in Austria and the were always allowed at Jänner Rallye. The Studs that are allowed in Austria are only much smaller than in Scandinavia. If you had seen the 2011 edition you wouldn't say, that Jänner Rallye on tarmac is more spectacular than on snow.

[Ucci]

Studs are allowed in Austria and the were always allowed at Jänner Rallye. The Studs that are allowed in Austria are only much smaller than in Scandinavia. If you had seen the 2011 edition you wouldn't say, that Jänner Rallye on tarmac is more spectacular than on snow.
You are right, but this are short studs (Monte Carlo version), in the Scandinavia are different and therefore the grip and speed is uncomparable....

[WUff1]

Jan Cerny testing: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 162017250f (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.571284956282692&type=3&l=162017250f)

[PLuto]

Studs are allowed in Austria and the were always allowed at Jänner Rallye. The Studs that are allowed in Austria are only much smaller than in Scandinavia. If you had seen the 2011 edition you wouldn't say, that Jänner Rallye on tarmac is more spectacular than on snow.

I dont agree with Ucci too. Completely snow Janner Rallye is really beautiful, on the other hand fully tarmac rally is boring and very fast.

[WRC1]

my pictures from Aigner, Neubauer, Baumschlager and Mayer testing!

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/in ... index.html (http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/int/galerien/2013/jaenner-test-ii/index.html)

...and YES Jänner Rallye is spectacular ALSO on Tarmac, but I would prefer Snow...but anyway, the drivers have to deal with it, after seen a few test sessions and sit beside Andi Aigner in Peugeot 207 S2000 i can say Tarmac in Jannuary IS very very difficult and spectacular, but also can be dangerous because of the high speeds!

I´m looking forward to an exiting season start in upper austria, wish everybody here a Happy New Year and hope to see some of you in Freistadt later this week ;)

reg

daniel

[WUff1]

@WRC1: nice pictures!

Some hints for non locals if going directly to Freistadt (service park, media center, qualifying stage) or to SS 3/6 from Linz: because of a motorway construction there´s heavy traffic south of Freistadt even without a rally. So expect to loose some time from Neumarkt to Center of Freistadt (about 20-30 min for 10 km). For going to SS 3/6 one could also go by Kefermarkt - Lasberg - St. Oswald bypassing Freistadt.

[MikeDeHigh]

@WRC1: nice pictures!

Some hints for non locals if going directly to Freistadt (service park, media center, qualifying stage) or to SS 3/6 from Linz: because of a motorway construction there´s heavy traffic south of Freistadt even without a rally. So expect to loose some time from Neumarkt to Center of Freistadt (about 20-30 min for 10 km). For going to SS 3/6 one could also go by Kefermarkt - Lasberg - St. Oswald bypassing Freistadt.

GOOD TIP! THX WUFF1 !!!

[PLuto]

Photogallery from today test of Consani and Raoux - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=15952

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/835d435afe99a94864ba66540c071702.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/3b3c9cbb069cfe7a4929f94095ca64cf.jpg

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

. Completely snow Janner Rallye is really beautiful, on the other hand fully tarmac rally is boring and very fast.

I wouldn't say that a fully Jänner Rallye on tarmac is completley boring. Some stages like Pregarten or Liebenau are really not perfect for a tarmac rally as the are too fast. But on the other hand you have really beautiful stages like Pierbach which is very twisty and is going up- and downhill all the time. Also Unterweissenbach or the Aisttal Stage are very beautiful.

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

According to the latest weather forecast some snow could be possible on Sunday.

[PLuto]

Any news, if Valousek has secured the budget to start at the Jänner Rallye.

Valda will not start :mad:

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Bad news. I think it is the first time since 2003 that he will not start.

[WUff1]

Yes, bad News. I´d rated him in Top Ten as in the last years.

[PLuto]

Bad news. I think it is the first time since 2003 that he will not start.

There was also chance, that if he will not find budget for R5 and there will be snow, he should use his older Evo IX. But as there is no snow there is no sense to do this "B plan"...

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

I was driving some stages today. As expected there is absolutly no snow on the stages, but especially on the Pierbach stage there are some icy places, f.i. at the famous hairpins.

[Bartek]

Is this year will be live coverage on Eurosport??

[PLuto]

Is this year will be live coverage on Eurosport??

www.fiaerc.com/tv_coverage (http://www.fiaerc.com/tv_coverage)

[Ucci]

@WRC1: nice pictures!

Some hints for non locals if going directly to Freistadt (service park, media center, qualifying stage) or to SS 3/6 from Linz: because of a motorway construction there´s heavy traffic south of Freistadt even without a rally. So expect to loose some time from Neumarkt to Center of Freistadt (about 20-30 min for 10 km). For going to SS 3/6 one could also go by Kefermarkt - Lasberg - St. Oswald bypassing Freistadt.
Thank you for useful tip !! As it seems you are local guy, could you give me followings tips for:
- immediately after the start of stage 1/4 it seems from the stages plan that this stage could be reached for spectators from the parallel road. True ??
- what do you think about combining stages 1/4 with stages 3/6 (St.Ostwald)-I would use local road Bad Zell-Gutau-St.Oswald and reverse.

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

The start of stage 1 is directly next to the main road (B 124). But parking is not that easy there, because parking at the side of the main road is forbidden. Combination of stage 1 and 3 is possible easily. You can watch at least the first 30 cars before leaving to stage 3.
You can use this road. There are some communal roads where you would be faster, but I wouldn't recomend you to use these roads without local knowledge.

[Mirek]

Test Pech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwXQr_b3 ... r_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwXQr_b34WY&feature=player_embedded)

[WUff1]

Fiat131Abarth was first, but he´s a local guy too ;)

Parking at the main roads is not possible, but there should be some parking area provided by the local communities for spectators, at every stage. You´ll be directed there by local firefighter troops or stewards.

[Mirek]

Test ?erný
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWK5uSOFM9Y

[Andre Oliveira]

Tests to Jänner Rallye of Pech, Consani and Raoux by Ivo Nesrovnal: http://ewrc-results.com/foto.php?e=1502 ... Raoux-2013 (http://ewrc-results.com/foto.php?e=15029&t=Test-to-Janner-Rally-2014-Pech-Consani-Raoux-2013)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/s403x403/1531793_439818346147413_1527077976_n.jpg

[WUff1]

Consani´s car ready: https://scontent-b-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 4037_n.jpg (https://scontent-b-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1505666_285731614885117_1622484037_n.jpg)

[Fred.]

I can't find Rally Guide 2....

[WUff1]

What do you mean with Rally Guide 2?

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

5 drivers (including Consani and Odlozilik) were fined because of speeding in recce.
Does anybody which drivers except Valousek and Mifka won't start the rally?

[WUff1]

Yes, speeding seems to be hip at this years Jänner recce ;)

[Jarek Z]

The official livery of Kubica's Fiesta:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/q71/s720x720/1526127_703360496349616_224229278_n.jpg

[Jarek Z]

Baumschlager said that due to lack of snow it is going to be the fastest Janner Rally that he has ever driven.

[Mirek]

Baumschlager said that due to lack of snow it is going to be the fastest Janner Rally that he has ever driven.

There were completely dry editions in the past ;) On the other hand the cars are getting faster every year so he might be right.

[thuGG]

https://scontent-b-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1522015_585052441544113_190423420_n.jpg

[Rasantes]

Roman Odložilík Ford Fiesta R5 livery.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bc_cRYSCMAAGLtA.jpg:large

[mousti]

Raoux


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bc_fEM8CIAARZMK.jpg:large

[Bartek]

Hope PLuto will not kill me but I found this on autosport.cz forum :)

http://forum.autosport.cz/download/file.php?id=1761&mode=view

If not working, copy url

[Fred.]

What do you mean with Rally Guide 2?

I search ERC Passes....!!

[Jarek Z]

Roman Odložilík Ford Fiesta R5 livery.

He seems to love this "soap livery style" ;)

[RICARDO75]

Priority Drivers that will contest the Qualifying Stage at 10h30:

Robert Kubica (Ford Fiesta RRC)
Kajetan Kajetanowicz (Ford Fiesta R5)
Roman Odložilík (Ford Fiesta R5)
Vasily Gryazin (Ford Fiesta S2000)
Václav Pech Jun (Mini Cooper S2000 1.6T)
Andreas Aigner (Peugeot 207 S2000)
Robert Consani (Peugeot 207 S2000)
Raimund Baumschlager (Skoda Fabia S2000)
Jaromír Tarabus (Skoda Fabia S2000)
Antonín Tlus?ák (Skoda Fabia S2000)
Beppo Harrach (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX R4)
Jan ?erný (Subaru Impreza STi N)

[WUff1]

What do you mean with Rally Guide 2?

I search ERC Passes....!!


Furthermore the rallypass will be sold from 03rd Jan. 2014 at the mainentrance to the servicepark in Freistadt, Linzerstraße – Stieranger. Is this what you mean?

Or this?
http://www.jaennerrallye.at/en/rallye-guide.html

[WUff1]

Slightly freezing here in Freistadt (-5°C; -2°C in Bad Zell).

[PLuto]

Results of free practice and qualify: http://rally-base.com/2014/31-int-janne ... 6&cupId=36 (http://rally-base.com/2014/31-int-janner-rallye-2014/?ssId=2166&cupId=36)

[WUff1]

Nice weather here in Upper Austria.

Summary of practice and qualifying: Suprised by Harrach´s performance, but expected more of Aigner. Good times of Consani.

[PLuto]

Final results of qualify: http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=15960

[Ucci]

Final results of qualify: http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=15960

I don't like to see Kubica the fastest already on free-practice...this could lead to be first out of the road tomorrow.....Robert, please stay on the road, please.....

[Juha_Koo]

Harrach quite incredible... As always.

[Salist]

How much is the RallyPass in this Year? 40€ or 25€ ?
Thanks a lot.

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

How much is the RallyPass in this Year? 40€ or 25€ ?
Thanks a lot.

€ 40-- a ticket for a Day is available for € 10--.

[matikPL]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYUuG68l ... e=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYUuG68lmfc&feature=youtu.be)

Kubica/Szczepaniak - Janner Rallye 2014 shakedown

[Salist]

Thanks!



How much is the RallyPass in this Year? 40€ or 25€ ?
Thanks a lot.

€ 40-- a ticket for a Day is available for € 10--.

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Walter Mayer won't start. The reason is the penalty he received for speeding in recce.

[dimviii]

Harrach quite incredible... As always.

surprised that at pickems very few mates choosed him at top 3 positions.

[Jarek Z]

This photo was apparently taken during qualifying. Is it gravel, snow or what?
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 5559_o.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1522781_574283292660607_969265559_o.jpg)

[Mad cat jnr]

Frost on top of tar?

[HaCo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYUuG68lmfc&feature=youtu.be

Kubica/Szczepaniak - Janner Rallye 2014 shakedown

Amazing!

Looking forward to the HD images on Eurosport and Youtube!

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Road gravel (I hope this is the correct english name for what we call Rollsplitt in Austria) and dirt from cutting. I think that is what you see on the Photo.

[Bartek]

1. Tlustak, 2. Griazin, 3. Aigner, 4. Pech, 5. Harrach, 6. Kajetanowicz, 7. Baumschalger, 8. Odlozilik, 9. Tarabus, 10. Consani, 11. Cerny, 12. Kubica

Startlist

[Mirek]

If You find some Czech proxy You can watch onboards from qualification and the rest of the rally here: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy.html

Unfortunately I think it's restricted for Czech IP only at least for some time. Normally in case of Barum they release the onboards for foreign IPs after one week. Can You check if that is the case this time?

[RS]

Is running 12th on the road a good idea for Kubica if there is no snow? There will be "mud and sh1t" all over the road further down surely?

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

If You find some Czech proxy You can watch onboards from qualification and the rest of the rally here: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy.html

Unfortunately I think it's restricted for Czech IP only at least for some time. Normally in case of Barum they release the onboards for foreign IPs after one week. Can You check if that is the case this time?

In Austria they are currently working.

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Is running 12th on the road a good idea for Kubica if there is no snow? There will be "mud and sh1t" all over the road further down surely?

If the temperature is falling below 0 degrees over night the dirt is hopefully not the big problem.

[Dejan]

If You find some Czech proxy You can watch onboards from qualification and the rest of the rally here: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy.html

Unfortunately I think it's restricted for Czech IP only at least for some time. Normally in case of Barum they release the onboards for foreign IPs after one week. Can You check if that is the case this time?

I can watch.

[Mirek]

Is running 12th on the road a good idea for Kubica if there is no snow? There will be "mud and sh1t" all over the road further down surely?

On the other hand the thin frost layer will be most likely gone after few cars.

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Is running 12th on the road a good idea for Kubica if there is no snow? There will be "mud and sh1t" all over the road further down surely?

On the other hand the thin frost layer will be most likely gone after few cars.

But there shouldn't be mud this year on the Pierbach stage.

[WUff1]

This photo was apparently taken during qualifying. Is it gravel, snow or what?
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 5559_o.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1522781_574283292660607_969265559_o.jpg)

It´s hoar frost/white frost. You can also see it on onboard videos posted above (it´s free now to watch).

[rage82]

If You find some Czech proxy You can watch onboards from qualification and the rest of the rally here: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy.html

Unfortunately I think it's restricted for Czech IP only at least for some time. Normally in case of Barum they release the onboards for foreign IPs after one week. Can You check if that is the case this time?
I can watch them too from Bulgaria. Hope it's gonna stay the same all weekend long.

[dimviii]

i can watch too the videos.Nice drive from Pech

[Mirek]

i can watch too the videos.Nice drive from Pech

And really bad one from Tarabus (his first run) :D

Anyway it's good You can all watch it :)

[Jarek Z]

Thanks for your replies guys! I found some more photos of Kubica and there is no sign of snow on them. It almost looks like a rally held in early spring!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q75/s720x720/1555535_704033552948977_1598590950_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/q80/s720x720/1544576_703947572957575_1137590059_n.jpg

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

[quote="Jarek Z"]Thanks for your replies guys! I found some more photos of Kubica and there is no sign of snow on them. It almost looks like a rally held in early

It's like spring. It is possible, that temperatures are climbing to 10-15 degrees tomorrow in the afternoon due very warm South winds.

[PLuto]

Starting order to first leg - http://rally-base.com/2014/31-int-janne ... TypeId=404 (http://rally-base.com/2014/31-int-janner-rallye-2014/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=404)

[Mad cat jnr]

I see the stewards have relaxed the ruling on tyres for Janner; any tyres are allowed for 15"-17" and cars on 18" can use any tyre that was homologated after October 2013

[Mirek]

It looks like the reason was not enough new tyres available...

[hari]

Some Pictures from Friday:
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_ ... 2014_1.php (http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_orm_erc_jaenner_rallye_2014_1.php)

http://www.ir7.at/j14d11.jpg
http://www.ir7.at/j14d12.jpg
http://www.ir7.at/j14d13.jpg

[WUff1]

Nice Pictures Hari!

Yes, tomorrow it will be a perfect day for watching a rally, on fast tarmac. I´d say also the perfect weather for Kubica. But fog is predicted tomorrow, therefore possibly ice from frozen fog in the morning stages, especially in the forest parts as seen today in the last meters of the qualifying stage. Freistadt at -1,1°C at the Moment, Bad Zell (nearby Pierbach stage) +0,2°C.

Tomorrow evening it could already begin to rain.

[RICARDO75]

Kajetanowicz onboard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7fUH7Ct0WQ

video shakedown from rally4all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUvpHha2KBI

[RICARDO75]

videos shakedown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srFZgdOOPqc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw2KRA3QShc

[megadrive]

Kajetanowicz onboard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7fUH7Ct0WQ

video shakedown from rally4all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUvpHha2KBI

Kejatan going very fast, it should be his best attempt. Very impressive drive, sliding in almost corners, but too many understeer. Maybe if he got clear lines he can be faster than Kubica...

[RS]

Really looking forward to the start of the international rally season tomorrow!

I feel ERC will be more interesting this year with new cars coming on stream and some new drivers too, along with an improved calendar.

[Andre Oliveira]

Photos eWRC-results.com (http://ewrc-results.com/foto.php?e=13776&t=Int-Janner-Rallye-2014)

https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s403x403/1524930_440801812715733_717284381_n.jpg

[Mirek]

According to Pluto almost half of Pierbach stage is covered by frost/ice. Liebenau and St. Oswald mostly without ice, only some patches. Most of the crews chose 4x studded tyres.

[leighton323]

Looks like an exciting first stage then! First three cars struggling

[Dejan]

Does Aigner drive on Michelin?

[dupanton]

Almost everyone went off on studded tyres on the first stage. Who said this would be a boring dry edition? :p

[Mirek]

Does Aigner drive on Michelin?

I think everybody from top except Baumschlager is on Michelin.

[WUff1]

Tlust´ak, Aigner and Gryazin already slightly damaged their cars on SS 1, Aigner lost his rear window, spun by Odlozilik.

[Mirek]

It's clear that Pierbach is too twisty stage for production cars especially with ice. Harrach and ?erný both much slower than those with faster cars. Let's see in next faster stages.

EDIT: ?erný was also off road...

[HaCo]

Baumschlager remains an amazing driver! But first fastest time in ERC 14 for R5 and Ford!

Sent from my ARCHOS 80G9 using Tapatalk

[Mirek]

Pushkar rolled.

Great time by Neubauer! Leading production cup :smokin:

[WUff1]

Tempestini´s car badly damaged, rear wheel damage.

Hermann Neubauer best PC-driver at the moment (8th).

[WUff1]

What a f***ing stage! It´s stages like this one, who make Jänner Rallye famous ...

Also bad problems for local drivers (Fischerlehner 2 times off road, Glachs puncture). But Keferböck and Haneder shining.

[Mirek]

I remember times when Haneder was even on podium or at least close to it :)

[RS]

Aigner disappointing so far. I hope he can get used to the car by the end of the rally and start to push a bit more.

[WUff1]

... and Pech flying on SS4