[ERC] Rallye Tour de Corse

[jbmarcus21]

Timetable + Google Earth Map
Rallye ERC Tour de Corse 2013 (http://planetemarcus.com/rallye-erc-tour-de-corse-2013/)

[zajic]

Three weeks to start and finaly a thread for Corse :-)

Closing date for entries is 27th April (this saturday) and publication of entry list on 2nd May. So who will start?

[RS]

Basso (207) and Kubica (DS3) are confirmed, I expect Kopecky also.

[RICARDO75]

Jean-Mathieu Leandri (207 S2000);
Craig Breen (207 S2000);
Stéphane Lefebvre (208 R2);
Jérémi Ancian (207 S2000)
Andreas Aigner (Impreza R4);
Lazlo Vizin (Impreza R4);

[zajic]

Kopecký is sure, also Tlusťák. No information about Černý. Probably Griazin will start.

[Mirek]

Orsák shall be there too.

[liposh]

Fingers crossed for Cerny. Not because of me but because of him. It would be very big and useful experience for young talented driver. And he is quite fast anyway...You will see.

[vino_93]

Bernardi with Fiesta S2000 (Team Emap Yacco)

[pucky54]

Maurin too in RRC version??

[zajic]

Any news about Bouffier?

[mousti]

Maurin too in RRC version??
It has to be, Bernardi is driving the S2000 where Maurin has drove several years with in some IRC events etc.

[vino_93]

and that Gherardi is using in French Cup, and Gal drove in Lyon Charbonnières.

Maurin will start too indeed, I forgot him ;)

[Jarek Z]

It has to be, Bernardi is driving the S2000 where Maurin has drove several years with in some IRC events etc.

Wow! Bernardi is back! He was a great driver a few years ago and I mean really great, not someone like Maurin, who drives for years without results. Good luck to Nicolas! :up:

[vino_93]

He is one the coach of Maurin ;) And he drove the Fiesta this year, winning the Rallye des Vins du Gard.
eWRC-results.com - results Rallye Rgional des Vins du Gard 2013 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/final.php?e=9365&t=Rallye-Regional-des-Vins-du-Gard-2013)

And Maurin has just win his first race in French tarmac championship :)

[Kielder]

Kopecky confirmed at the end of the last stage of Açores that he will run in Corse. :)

[Kielder]

http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/585/photosvb.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kVnVMlIi-nM#!

[RS]

That's Basso's car :(

[pucky54]

That's Basso's car :(

His last years car....

[Jarek Z]

Who the hell are those drivers?

[pucky54]

Who the hell are those drivers?

Marchi is a local driver, he was also doing the event last year in a Balbosca Peugeot 207 Super 2000

[pucky54]

Entries so far:

S2000
1. Kubica (DS3)
2. Bernardi (Fiesta)
3. Casanova (Fiesta)
4. Marchi (Fiesta)
5. Maurin (Fiesta)
6. Oliveira (Fiesta)
7. Ancian (207)
8. Basso (207)
9. Betti (207)
10. Bouffier (207)
11. Breen (207)
12. Delecour (207)
13. Leandri (207)
14. Manzagol (207)
15. Micheli (207)
16. Succi (207)
17. Kopecký (Fabia)
18. Mattei (Fabia)
19. Tlust'ák (Fabia)

R4
1. Aigner (Impreza)
2. M. Tempestini (Impreza)
3. Vizin (Impreza)

N
1. Bonnefis (Megane)
2. Consani (Megane)

S1600
1. Neubauer (Swift)

R3
1. Taylor (DS3)

R2
1. Gryazin (Fiesta)
2. Andreucci (208)
3. Lefebvre (208)
4. Pomponi (208)

[EightGear]

Entries so far:

17. Kopecký (207)



You sure? :p

[Mirek]

Succi I guess also with Fabia ;)

[Mirek]

Rumors about Francois Duval with Mini.

[liposh]

Wow! Bernardi is back! He was a great driver a few years ago and I mean really great, not someone like Maurin, who drives for years without results. Good luck to Nicolas! :up:

Maurin improved a lot during last year with Nicolas Klinger as new co-driver. I don´t expect him to be on total top during Rally Corse, but he isn´t loser anymore. I expect him to be in better half of S2000/RRC field.

Czech boys, any news about Orsak? Two weeks ago the pssibility of start on Corse was 50:50.

[Mirek]

Depends how bad is the damage from Acores.

[Rasantes]

Sarrazin with Mini S2000. And Kubica, Bouffier, Delecour, Maurin, Breen, Ancian, Succi, Manzagol...

(Exclu) Tour de Corse ERC : la liste des engagés -Corse Sport (http://corse-sport.com/site/exclu-tour-de-corse-erc-la-liste-des-engages-330833)

[PLuto]

Here you can find the list of entered drivers in better format - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=15210)

[RS]

Here you can find the list of entered drivers in better format - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=15210)

No Basso on that list?

Also, I presume Sarrazin is instead of rumoured Duval?

[EightGear]

So in the end no Meeke?

[RS]

So in the end no Meeke?

In what? He wasn't even rumoured was he?

[Mirek]

Yes, he was. He should have been there 208 R2 but it looks like it won't happen.

[RS]

Strange. For development purposes?

Maybe in the R5 as a zero car would be a good idea.

[Mirek]

I believe that was also an option but I guess M-Sport could have already taken that place with Fiesta R5.

[Andre Oliveira]

And a better looking one: Tour de Corse 2013 unseeded entry list (http://www.ewrc-results.com/startlist.php?e=7310&t=Tour-de-Corse-2013)

[RS]

I see Basso's co-driver is entered with another guy in a Fiesta, so can we presume that will eventually be Basso?

[PLuto]

I see Basso's co-driver is entered with another guy in a Fiesta, so can we presume that will eventually be Basso?

No chance. Or almost better very low chance. Basso will not start.

[RS]

No chance. Or almost better very low chance. Basso will not start.

Unlike.

I know it depends on money and where his sponsors want to publicise themselves e.t.c. blah blah, but for me a driver of Basso's calibre is wasted only competing at home :(

Are entries now closed?

[PLuto]

Unlike.

I know it depends on money and where his sponsors want to publicise themselves e.t.c. blah blah, but for me a driver of Basso's calibre is wasted only competing at home :(

Are entries now closed?

Entries are closed since last saturday, so one week ago.

[Jarek Z]

Entries are closed since last saturday, so one week ago.

Are we not waiting for Basso?! ;)

[PLuto]

Are we not waiting for Basso?! ;)

Basso will not start...

[WUff1]

Even without Basso/Meeke etc. the best entry list so far in this year´s new ERC.

[RS]

Are we not waiting for Basso?! ;)

Don't take the pi$$

I did not know when the entry list closed without looking.

Basso is one of the best drivers at this level and would almost certainly have run near the front should he have been entered and would have been a great addition to the list.

[Jarek Z]

My comment wasn't adressed at you. I really wanted to wait for Basso :)

But even without Basso, this is the best entry list in ERC 2013 so far.

[Tom206wrc]

Mmmm...fantastic entrylist !!! ;)

[shaperzrally]

Four stages live on Eurosport.

On Friday: SS2 11:00-12:00 and SS6 20:00-21:00
On Saturday: SS8 12:00-13:00 and SS11 18:00-19:00 (all times CET)

[j.heigl]

Are there any informations, why there is still no confirmed entry list by the FIA?
still one week before rallye...

[Jarek Z]

Are there any informations, why there is still no confirmed entry list by the FIA?
still one week before rallye...

It must be the same problem as on all island rallies. The organizers never know who will come. They wait for competitors on the boat. When the boat leaves mainland and makes its way to the island, organizers count the passengers and print the entry list ;)

[Rasantes]

Entry list.

http://cdn.ircseries.com/uploads/files/eventdetail/5/fia_erc_2013_tour_de_corse_entry_list.pdf

[noel157]

Not bad, entries improving as the season progresses, which I suppose is to be expected.

[Mirek]

I'm really looking forward to the event :)

[A FONDO]

Not bad, entries improving as the season progresses, which I suppose is to be expected.

The only improved thing in the entries are a few locals who would have driven this iconic rally anyway. The tournament is on the same level generally.

[Mirek]

25 foreign entrants of 58 this time.

These 24 can be considered regulars or at least not one-off starters:

Kopecký
Kubica
Breen
Delecour
Bouffier
Ancian
Aigner
Oliveira
Bonnefis
Consani
Orsák
Leandri
Raoux
Tlusťák
Tamrazov
Tempestini
Vizin
Bertelli
Taylor
Pita
Gryazin
Ogrzyzek
Lukács
Stratieva

There is no local driver who could fight for podium this year, the best local is Manzagol. The only one-off starter capable of that is Sarrazin who isn't Corsican.

[noel157]

The only improved thing in the entries are a few locals who would have driven this iconic rally anyway. The tournament is on the same level generally.

Nothing wrong with being optimistic..... :)

Yes, I suppose on paper little has changed (other than Delecour and hopefully Bouffier starts this time) but Corse is always a special event.

[Jarek Z]

I think it will be exciting to see the battle of two former Formula 1 drivers on Corcica. Especially because they both will be driving RRC cars - Mini in the case of Stephane Sarrazin and Citroen DS3 in the case of Robert Kubica. I'd put my money on Sarrazin, who has much more experience. What do you think?

[RS]

That's a good question. I'm gonna say that Kubica will be faster, but who will finish ahead is a harder question.

[Rasantes]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJ6lCdGCMAEUQLi.jpg:large

[Rasantes]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJ7a_1oCcAILzZ6.jpg:large

[HaCo]

Hope Sarazin will win.

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[rallye-vid]

If the mini doesn't fall apart..

[Kielder]

If it didn't fall apart last year... Better say if he doesn't go off. Anyway, in my opinion, Sarrazin is a minor rival for Kubica. Although if we are talking about people who go off...

[pucky54]

If the mini doesn't fall apart..

??? Why should it ???

[Jarek Z]

That's a good question. I'm gonna say that Kubica will be faster, but who will finish ahead is a harder question.

For sure Kubica will be faster... on the first 7 stages ;)

[Rallying UK]

Who do you think will win Tour de Corse 2013?

VOTE NOW!: svy.mk/17TLc91 (http://svy.mk/17TLc91)

[rallye-vid]

??? Why should it ???

Because it's a mini ;)

[pucky54]

Because it's a mini ;)

It's the winning car from last year, so I have no doubts about reliability!!

[rallye-vid]

Sordo Mini =! Sarrazin Mini

[A FONDO]

It's the winning car from last year, so I have no doubts about reliability!!

Last year's winning car was maintained by drive-pro, in an attempt to advert it in the best possible way, i.e. no budget cuts on upgrades and reliable parts, let alone skilled mechanics and engineers.

[mousti]

I have no doubts about the competence of the whole First Motorsport team, they know what they doing..

[Mirek]

Last year's winning car was maintained by drive-pro, in an attempt to advert it in the best possible way, i.e. no budget cuts on upgrades and reliable parts, let alone skilled mechanics and engineers.

This year's car is AFAIK owned by Drive-Pro too and only serviced by First.

[vino_93]

Well, not really owned by Drive-Pro, but by François Padrona ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Some real tarmac experts on this rally... it will be interesting to see how Craig Breen can do against them, albeit with the rather out-dated 207 s2000...

Top 3 will be real progress.

[Mirek]

Rainy event expected. ERC seems to be doomed to bad weather :(

[pucky54]

Some real tarmac experts on this rally... it will be interesting to see how Craig Breen can do against them, albeit with the rather out-dated 207 s2000...

Top 3 will be real progress.

If the 207 is outdated, the Fabia has to be outdated too ;)

[bluuford]

Rainy event expected. ERC seems to be doomed to bad weather :(
Oh my god.. I just looked the forecast for Corsica. The worst weather I have seen in recent years (during the rally weekend).
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[vino_93]

Due to the new tyre regulation, Bernardi will not start the TDC. One of his main sponsor was Pirelli - and Pirelli have not tyres for the ERC regulation on tarmac ...

[Jarek Z]

Due to the new tyre regulation, Bernardi will not start the TDC. One of his main sponsor was Pirelli - and Pirelli have not tyres for the ERC regulation on tarmac ...

What?! Pirelli, the most famous motorsport tyres producer, has no tyres? Is this due to some new idiotic rule from FIA?

[Mirek]

Corsica is first ERC event with single pattern tyres á la WRC (the only reasonable difference is AFAIK that in ERC cutting is allowed). In the moment only Michelin and DMack are ready. Michelin wants to use different tyres than in WRC, DMack same ones. I know that there were huge problems to force Michelin to provide some tyres for test and that Michelin didn't allow national importers to sell these tyres to anyone so that they can be bought only on Corsica. Strange behavior from Michelin as always...

[dimviii]

Kubica testing for Corsica

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CNi3oDtomoE

[dimviii]

watch also this video from same channel.Kubica at rally simulator.Haven t seen something like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWdtGzZ-WB0

[HaCo]

Looks like Richard Burns Rally to me, can you believe this game is almost 10 years old?

[liposh]

Yes, yes, old good Richard Burns rally. I know this 3-screen mode. There have been done a lot of work by the RBR fans, so I am not surprised they can rebuild it into such kind of simulator. Anyway this is not kind of simulator like F1 simulators for F1 teams. RBR is "sci-fi physics fun". ;) ...on other hand it is rally game with best physics from all despite the fact it is from 2003 and the whole game and physics engine is very simple. (Which is disturbing message for all new rally games developers. How is it possible?)

[dimviii]

i know nothing about video games.

[MartijnS]

Joux Plane stage, even better in Gravel mode :D

[Mirek]

Yes, Robert was playing RBR like many other active drivers and co-drivers even in years I was part of the community (I can hardly believe it's already almost 4 years a go when I left).

[Luis Pacheco]

watch also this video from same channel.Kubica at rally simulator.Haven t seen something like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWdtGzZ-WB0

Portuguese pace notes. ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

If the 207 is outdated, the Fabia has to be outdated too ;)

207 S2000 - launched 2007

FABIA S2000 - launched 2009

I think Skoda have also put a lot more support developing their car than Peugeot have for the last few years... :rolleyes:

[Rasantes]

The company that took the simulator is Spanish. His name is CenterSimRace.

CenterSimRace (http://www.centersimrace.com/)

[Mirek]

207 S2000 - launched 2007

FABIA S2000 - launched 2009

I think Skoda have also put a lot more support developing their car than Peugeot have for the last few years... :rolleyes:

I do agree that in this moment Fabia is clearly ahead of 207 especially on gravel and bumpy surface and in reliability due to higher factory commitment in last few years. On the other hand the year of introduction doesn't mean much with these purpose-built cars. There is very little left in them from the original homologation. For example You can't even put current 207 engine into 2007 bodyshell without major changes of mounting points, suspension is different with wider track...

[noel157]

"I'm going for the win ... It will be a very good fight."

Sarrazin interview:

Stephane Sarrazin, MINI John Cooper Works - Q&A | WRC Interview | May 2013 | Crash.Net (http://www.crash.net/world+rally/interview/191078/1/stephane_sarrazin_mini_john_cooper_works_-_qa.html)

[liposh]

As I already said in another forum, I don´t think the MINI was fastest car last year and I don´t think situation is even better this year. We all know Sarrazin has a lot of talent, but he isn´t same league as Dani Sordo on tarmac...but we will see :)

[Jarek Z]

"I'm going for the win ... It will be a very good fight."

Sarrazin interview:

Stephane Sarrazin, MINI John Cooper Works - Q&A | WRC Interview | May 2013 | Crash.Net (http://www.crash.net/world+rally/interview/191078/1/stephane_sarrazin_mini_john_cooper_works_-_qa.html)

Nice interview. Thanks for sharing.

But it is quite strange to name it an ERC debut, as the beginning of the article suggests. How can it be an ERC debut for Sarrazin when he was second in Antibes 2008 and first in Rallye du Var 2001?
RallyBase (http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=result&rallyid=3414)
RallyBase (http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=result&rallyid=1151)

[noel157]

I suppose technically it is his ERC debut rather than having previously entered IRC events. But I agree, it should've mentioned "old IRC series" or whatever.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I do agree that in this moment Fabia is clearly ahead of 207 especially on gravel and bumpy surface and in reliability due to higher factory commitment in last few years. On the other hand the year of introduction doesn't mean much with these purpose-built cars. There is very little left in them from the original homologation. For example You can't even put current 207 engine into 2007 bodyshell without major changes of mounting points, suspension is different with wider track...

That's right, so it makes the 207 'more out-dated' than the Fabia especially with the success the Skodas have had, totally dominating the IRC since 2010. So you can hardly expect Breen to come along and beat them in 2013 in a 207...

[Mirek]

I suppose technically it is his ERC debut rather than having previously entered IRC events. But I agree, it should've mentioned "old IRC series" or whatever.

But that's not IRC starts what Jarek mentioned. Antibes and Var have never been part of IRC but both were part of ERC in the past.

[RS]

As I already said in another forum, I don´t think the MINI was fastest car last year and I don´t think situation is even better this year.

That's hard to say. I think RRC have an advantage, but I don't think we have seen a top driver in the Mini RRC since Corse last year?

[noel157]

I suppose technically it is his ERC debut rather than having previously entered IRC events. But I agree, it should've mentioned "old IRC series" or whatever.

[noel157]

But that's not IRC starts what Jarek mentioned. Antibes and Var have never been part of IRC but both were part of ERC in the past.

I was thinking of RMC and Ypres Mirek. Didn't take onboard Jarek's reference to the 2 French events.

[noel157]

That's right, so it makes the 207 'more out-dated' than the Fabia especially with the success the Skodas have had, totally dominating the IRC since 2010. So you can hardly expect Breen to come along and beat them in 2013 in a 207...

Excuses for Breen already Eddie? :) I jest of course. Will be a good rally I think.

[Jarek Z]

I was thinking of RMC and Ypres Mirek. Didn't take onboard Jarek's reference to the 2 French events.

So it is in no way a debut, not in IRC and not in ERC.

Modern journalism is continuously falling down the drain. How difficult is it to check it for a journalist today, when we have the Internet with all the rallybases etc.? I can't believe how some people are lazy these days...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Excuses for Breen already Eddie? :) I jest of course. Will be a good rally I think.

The FACTS are:

1. its his first full ERC season and
2. the 207 isnt competitive vs Skodas & RRCs.

Plus he lost his co-driver in that terrible accident last year which takes some getting over...

So no excuses necessary, he's doing great to be 2nd in the Championship. :)

[catty]

World champion in 2011 & 2012
2nd place in the European championship in 2013......

[bluuford]

World champion in 2011 & 2012
2nd place in the European championship in 2013......

Yeah, he has some way to go before he reaches to our WRC Superstar level Al Kuwari!!! He is leading the championship in WRC2 :-P ;-)

[tolis]

5 less S2000: Liste des engagés Tour de Corse 2013 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/liste-des-engages-rallye-tour-de-corse-2013/)

[makinen_fan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwzZ0VUuKyw

[vino_93]

5 less S2000: Liste des engagés Tour de Corse 2013 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/liste-des-engages-rallye-tour-de-corse-2013/)
And Jose Micheli isn't sure to start too...

[thuGG]

Kubicas onboard:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=591150070903993&set=vb.555335824485418&type=2&theater

[noel157]

Meeke's R2 Zero car:

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/4229/image7xb.jpg

And Delecour:

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/8256/image10fw.jpg

[noel157]

Meeke's R2 Zero car:

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/4229/image7xb.jpg

Be nice if we were supplied with his times.

[Vaggelis27]

tolis do u know the reason for tamrazov?

[PLuto]

And Jose Micheli isn't sure to start too...

He will start...

[PLuto]

Start list to first leg - http://rally-base.com/2013/tour-de-corse-2013/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=315

[Juha_Koo]

Meeke's R2 Zero car:

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/4229/image7xb.jpg

Be nice if we were supplied with his times.

Codriver Patterson who? Chris?

[PLuto]

Dont forget to makce pickems - http://www.motorsportforums.com/erc/158300-pickem-2013-tour-de-corse.html

[tolis]

tolis do u know the reason for tamrazov?
No Vagelis. Tamrazov had a big programme this year, but don't know what happened. He gave his WRC car to PG and finally he said that he will do WRC-2. Will he do it though? Who knows...

[noel157]

Codriver Patterson who? Chris?

Yep. Same as in his JWRC days when mentored by McRae. A very experienced co-driver.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

UK tv show Top Gear are at the TdC ! :)




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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Video from today:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsUNLfXI0-U&feature=player_embedded#!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

This Fiesta of Lorenzo Bertelli is looking different ! :eek:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKUAZ5aCAAECyr8.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKZMKb_CUAEZRJO.jpg:large

[stefanvv]

Video from today:

It's going to be great Rally

[RS]

This Fiesta of Lorenzo Bertelli is looking different ! :eek:


Erm, yes. I was also wondering about the name of his sponsor!

[thuGG]

Some more of Kubica:
16 maj 2013, ROBERT KUBICA - Rajd Korsyki. dzie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CCJ2Bi5fC64)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Erm, yes. I was also wondering about the name of his sponsor!

Apparently the ****matie name doesnt mean anything in Italian, dont how they came up with it! Maybe he doesnt like Matt Wilson?! :D

[RS]

Video from today:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsUNLfXI0-U&feature=player_embedded#!

I think Citroen have got the DS3 RRC so 'right'. It sounds and looks virtually like a WRC on the stages whereas the Ford and Mini seem strangled somehow.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I think Citroen have got the DS3 RRC so 'right'. It sounds and looks virtually like a WRC on the stages whereas the Ford and Mini seem strangled somehow.

I was saying exactly the same on the Azores rally... the DS3 RRC sounds like a 'proper' rally car, compared to the screaming S2000s ... :s mokin:

[Jarek Z]

Some more of Kubica:
16 maj 2013, ROBERT KUBICA - Rajd Korsyki. dzie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CCJ2Bi5fC64)

After seeing this video I'm afraid that Robert is going to crash again :(
I hope I'm wrong...

[Vaggelis27]

I agree with u.When u listen the sound of an rrc u think that it can't be in the same category with the S2000 especially DS3's sound..It looks like it is a wrc..No difference...

[Jarek Z]

Robert Consani is a star, too?
No more sleeping for ERC star Consani - News - ERC European Rally Championship - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/news/detail/id/779)

[zajic]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1153/1153_tour_de_corse_2013_0c7236f2b5.jpghttp://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1153/1153_tour_de_corse_2013_d3775b0057.jpghttp://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1153/1153_tour_de_corse_2013_10a693ead1.jpgMore photos of atmoshere before start of Tour de Corse HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1153)

[Mirek]

After seeing this video I'm afraid that Robert is going to crash again :(
I hope I'm wrong...

According to PLuto Robert did much more runs than anyone else (he said 30 but I think he must have been exaggerating) so it's natural he was "closer to the edge". Anyway I think he will either win or crash.

[Vaggelis27]

It's time to finish a rally and take the win!

[noel157]

Robert needs to start 10% slower than he normally does and then slowly get his speed up...but he won't, it'll be 10/10ths from SS1 and win it or bin it. Should be entertaining and fun, looking forward to it.

[stefanvv]

Robert needs to start 10% slower than he normally does and then slowly get his speed up...

Makes sense

[stefanvv]

http://www.fiaerc.com/news/detail/id/783

[Mad cat jnr]

Stunning start for Breen against Kopecky!

[stefanvv]

Let's see Kubica

[werner]

Apparently the ****matie name doesnt mean anything in Italian, dont how they came up with it! Maybe he doesnt like Matt Wilson?! :D

As I know, that name means in Italy Good Luck, used by young guys.

[Mirek]

Strange tyre choice for Kopecký, all four hard tyres. Breen on soft...

[skory]

Great start from Breen, Kubica second ahead of Bouffier, not bad.

[Mad cat jnr]

SS2 is dry by the looks of it though, so could work?

[noel157]

Yes, SS2 seems to be drying with the wind.

[Mirek]

Aha, that could be interesting.

[rallyfun]

Kubica had some problems with brakes on SS1 apparently

[makinen_fan]

Was SS1 wet?

[Mirek]

Kubica had some problems with brakes on SS1 apparently

Everyone has problems with brakes in his first Corsica outing :) It's usually a matter of use ;)


Was SS1 wet?

Yes, at least partly.

[noel157]

70% dry with puddles of water below trees according to Meeke in the zero car.

[skory]

Was SS1 wet?

From live commentary: Zero car driver Kris Meeke reports road surface 70 per cent dry but some patches of standing water under tree cover.

[makinen_fan]

thx guys, cant listen to radio this morning :( some bloody meetings coming up

[Mirek]

No stage time for Meeke in the radio?

[thuGG]

Nope.

[Mirek]

Great time for Bennefis! This season it finally looks like the Méganes work like they were supposed to.

[skory]

I'm only redaing text commentary from Event's Live Results - ERC European Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/events/live/id/5) and there was nothing about Meeke time.

[Jarek Z]

According to PLuto Robert did much more runs than anyone else (he said 30 but I think he must have been exaggerating) so it's natural he was "closer to the edge". Anyway I think he will either win or crash.

I see you know what I mean. I'm afraid that on this video he was a little too close to the edge...

Speaking of the edge, have you seen the movie "Closer To The Edge"? :) It's about races on the Isle of Man and it's one of the best documentary films I have ever seen. I highly recommend it to all of you. More details here:
TT3D: Closer to the Edge (2011) - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1698010/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)

[Jarek Z]

I'm only redaing text commentary from Event's Live Results - ERC European Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/events/live/id/5)

What is European Rally Challenge?

[stefanvv]

What is European Rally Challenge?

It's the old site with some modifications :D

[rage82]

No time for Meeke on the rally radio. He just says it was partly wet and he was in a hurry for the second stage as the liason is quite long.

[Mirek]

I see you know what I mean. I'm afraid that on this video he was a little too close to the edge...

Speaking of the edge, have you seen the movie "Closer To The Edge"? :) It's about races on the Isle of Man and it's one of the best documentary films I have ever seen. I highly recommend it to all of you. More details here:
TT3D: Closer to the Edge (2011) - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1698010/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)

Thanks for the tip for the movie. I rarely watch any movies at all but I will make an exception :)

[RS]

I know it is more of a challenge blah blah e.t.c. but I would have like to have seen a dry rally. It decreases the variables (road conditions, tyres) so there is a greater chance of a tight battle.

[EightGear]

Don't forget SS2 live on Eurosport.

[Leon]

Don't forget SS2 live on Eurosport.

Link please

[leighton323]

Don't forget SS2 live on Eurosport.
Is it not available anywhere other than Europe??

[stefanvv]

Link please

Only on Eurosport TV I think

[Kielder]

Here you can see it : Sport Lemon - From Sport - Watch Live Sports Online - FromSport (http://www.sportlemon.tv/) (Click on the first link)

[EightGear]

SS2 is bone dry and sunny.

[stefanvv]

Great time by Breen again 3.4 secs up to Kopecky

[Jarek Z]

Great time by Breen again 3.4 secs up to Kopecky

Yes, Breen first, then Kopecky, Bouffier and Kubica on SS2. A group of four drivers was formed at the front. One of the 4 will win the rally. I think the others are too slow.

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/1c/84/d4/z13927452AA.jpg

[AP-Racing]

One of five
I think Sarrazin adapted with Mini soon

[sindroms]

Don't forget SS2 live on Eurosport.

To get HD picture for following live coverages use - First TV torrent: See TV Torrent (http://1torrent.tv/index.php)
Available content is to Russia audience oriented, but anyway - terrific stuff in deed! Just install required software.

[vino_93]

No so bad by Maurin, fighting is the second field, with Ancian or Delecour :)

[Jarek Z]

One of five
I think Sarrazin adapted with Mini soon

Yes, Sarrazin can join the head of the race when he learns Mini better, but he already loses 36 seconds to Breen. Will it not be too late?

[RS]

No so bad by Maurin, fighting is the second field, with Ancian or Delecour :)

Did Maurin really get better or is it just that he drives a faster car now?

[Vaggelis27]

Very happy for Craig and Paul...Let's see if Kubica can put pressure on him..

[Francis44]

Very impressed with Breen, only second time in Corsica right?! Hope he continues like this.

[liposh]

Breen is the only person with experiences with new tyres from Michelin...but yes, I agree, no excuses for the rest of field, Breen is great.


Did Maurin really get better or is it just that he drives a faster car now?
AFAIK from his results during last one year, he is really much more faster with Nicolas Klinger as co-driver.

[urabus-denoS2000]

I see you know what I mean. I'm afraid that on this video he was a little too close to the edge...

Speaking of the edge, have you seen the movie "Closer To The Edge"? :) It's about races on the Isle of Man and it's one of the best documentary films I have ever seen. I highly recommend it to all of you. More details here:
TT3D: Closer to the Edge (2011) - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1698010/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)


+1, excellent movie :) Very good performance so far from Breen, hope he will keep it up :)

[Mirek]

I'd like also to mention Hungarian Kornél Lukács who is doing great job in the R2.

[Vaggelis27]

I expected this speed from Craig from the start of the season but doesn't matter...GO CRAIG

[Tom206wrc]

What pleasure(and surprise) for me to see Breen leading after two stages this morning :D
I was expecting to see either Kubica or Kopecky in this position :mark:
And never expected Sarrazin anyway :p :

[Jarek Z]

What pleasure(and surprise) for me to see Breen leading after two stages this morning :D


Wouldn't be a bigger pleasure if it was Bouffier in the lead? Come on Bryan!!! :)

[EightGear]

Did Maurin really get better or is it just that he drives a faster car now?

He is at the front in the French championship this year, he certainly improved from last year.

[Mirek]

On autosport.cz there are quote from drivers after first loop with some different information about tyre choice than what was reported before. Main points in English below.
Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=15259)

Kopecký - SS1 mixed soft and hard "cross", SS2 all hard
Breen - SS1 all soft, SS2 mixed soft and hard "cross"
Kubica - SS1 all soft, SS2 mixed soft and hard but not specified scheme, issues with brakes later in stage
Delecour - reported no issue with new tyres, he said it's easier for everybody without a real choice
Bouffier - mixed soft and hard, reported no issue with tyres, just not the best driving and some setup problem (too much understeer)
Oliveira - all soft, reported lack of confidence mainly because of no test
Aigner - all soft, reported issues with too soft rain setup for the stage conditions
Orsák - reported half of SS1 with released center diff due to problem with handbrake sensor, careful driving
Tlusťák - all soft, half of SS2 without brakes

[Jarek Z]

He is at the front in the French championship this year

Only because he fights against pensioners :)

[liposh]

Only because he fights against pensioners :)

...but those pensioners have got C4 WRC, Sub S12B WRC and P307 WRC and he is able to fight with them on any kind of surface with any kind of weather, so he really isn´t slow (at least this year) OK, well, he will never be world champion, but maybe he could be French champion.

[A FONDO]

Finally good performance from Breen this year, but let's see how long can he keep it like that, the rally is long and Kopecky is still my favorite - slow but smartest.

[Mintexmemory]

Only because he fights against pensioners :)

'Pilote de Tourisme et les chiens malades' as our absent Greek friend would say in french ;)

[Jarek Z]

...but those pensioners have got C4 WRC, Sub S12B WRC and P307 WRC

It doesn't change anything. Pensioner is a pensioner. Look at the results. Maurin lost 1 minute on just two stages in his home rally. Do you still consider him fast?

[latek]

Any unofficial times for Meeke?

[Jarek Z]

'Pilote de Tourisme et les chiens malades' as our absent Greek friend would say in french ;)

I don't speak French, so I tried to translate it with Google and it gives me "Driver of Tourism and sick dogs". I think I understand what you mean, but I'm not sure of those dogs ;)

[Jarek Z]

SS3 started at 14:18. Let's wait for the results. Will it be won by a pensioner? ;)

[Mintexmemory]

I don't speak French, so I tried to translate it with Google and it gives me "Driver of Tourism and sick dogs". I think I understand what you mean, but I'm not sure of those dogs ;)

You've got it!! Actually 'Pilote touristique' is more accurate for 'Tourist driver' but I forgot that in my attempt to be humorous!

[Mirek]

It doesn't change anything. Pensioner is a pensioner. Look at the results. Maurin lost 1 minute on just two stages in his home rally. Do you still consider him fast?

Don't be so harsh, Corsica can hardly be called a home rally for mainland French.

By the way again the weather plays it's game. There is a rain in some parts of SS3 but some other remain dry...

[Jarek Z]

You've got it!! Actually 'Pilote touristique' is more accurate for 'Tourist driver' but I forgot that in my attempt to be humorous!

Thanks! And could our absent Greek friend be NOT? ;)

[Jarek Z]

Don't be so harsh, Corsica can hardly be called a home rally for mainland French.


Didn't want to be harsh. I'm sorry if it sounded like that.

[Mirek]

No problem ;)

[Vaggelis27]

Fantastic drive from Breen..BF:I think i drive very well but its not enough. ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Ancian :confused:

Edit: accident ;(

[Mintexmemory]

Thanks! And could our absent Greek friend be NOT? ;)

Always here in spirit!

[Jarek Z]

SS3 started at 14:18. Let's wait for the results. Will it be won by a pensioner? ;)

Nope! Breen again! :)

[Kielder]

Really beauty:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8559/8746184631_a1b91d0743_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8534/8747655082_1f6136dc8e_b.jpghttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7317/8746534083_8c3141ae22_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7299/8747656192_956634737b_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7295/8746535821_b1b8dd53e2_b.jpg

Full gallery: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive/sets/72157633495474449

[Fast Eddie WRC]

OK, so how's my man Breen been doing then ???

1st, 1st, 1st :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Finally good performance from Breen this year,

WHAT ??? :eek:

The others were all his debuts on those events and not tarmac (his best surface) and he still finished all in good positions !!! Give him a break :p

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS4 Delayed - big numbers of spectators on SS4 is delayed

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Noooo... puncture for Breen...totally gutted :(

[thuGG]

Mistake from Breen, he touched the bank, he is gutted :(

[Mirek]

Puncture for Breen!

[eestlane]

Who has a puncture?

[mousti]

Only because he fights against pensioners :)
That's a insult for Brunson and Cuoq those aren't Gentlemen drivers for sure.. They are very fast in France.

[rage82]

What a shame, hope he can make some time in the next stages

[thuGG]

Stage win for Robert :)

[Mintexmemory]

Expect some real pushing from CB now!!

[Kielder]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKeRdudCIAEyaw5.jpg:large

[Jarek Z]

That's a insult for Brunson and Cuoq those aren't Gentlemen drivers for sure.. They are very fast in France.

I don't know how old Brunson and Cuoq are, but I'm pretty sure that 66-year old driver won 1 or 2 years ago. And in 2010 or 2011, despite all the WRCs, Bryan Bouffier won the championship driving a much slower S2000 car. So the insult came from Bouffier and not from me :)

[Kielder]

A pair of official videos are already uploaded. The images from the helicopter of Le Fangu-ND de la Serra are amazing:
ERC TOUR DE CORSE Breen-Nagle SS1 - Video Gallery - ERC European Rally Championship - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/videogallery/detail/id_event/5/id/115/t/ERC-TOUR-DE-CORSE-Breen-Nagle-SS1)
ERC TOUR DE CORSE after ss2 - Video Gallery - ERC European Rally Championship - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/videogallery/detail/id/114/t/ERC-TOUR-DE-CORSE-after-ss2)

[Jarek Z]

So Robert leads again and I'm sooooo afraid...

[Jarek Z]

Damn it, did you see Guglielmi's stage time on SS4? I don't know who he is, but he was 10th overal driving Renault Clio R3! Faster than Bertelli, Leandri, Raoux and Tlustak in S2000 cars. Well done! :up:

[Mirek]

Guglielmi is local Corsican. He is always among fastest 2WD in Tour de Corse if he doesn't crash ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It was fatal to praise Breen for winning SS1, 2 & 3... put a jinx on him... sorry Craig. :(

But I said all along its a learning year, his first ERC season. Top 3 will still be a great result and it was good to see he the speed he has. :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

krismeeke (https://twitter.com/krismeeke) A little time to stop and reflect on the road section..

http://distilleryimage11.ak.instagram.com/44f89f9ebeff11e29e0522000a1fa50c_7.jpg


RIP Henri & Sergio.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nagle: "We were unlucky,...but we could have dropped more...the rain is coming down now: we need rain and plenty of it...."

Breen: "Let it pour from the high heavens... if you pray, pray for it to rain now...."

Why are they saying this ??? :confused:

[rallyfun]

Nagle: "We were unlucky,...but we could have dropped more...the rain is coming down now: we need rain and plenty of it...."

Breen: "Let it pour from the high heavens... if you pray, pray for it to rain now...."

Why are they saying this ??? :confused:

to catch Kopecky

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmJ_3Ffed6c

[vino_93]

Did Maurin really get better or is it just that he drives a faster car now?
He improved a lot. He is working with Nicolas Bernardi and Nicolas Klinger since last year, and we can see the effect.
And here, even if the RRC is more powerful than the S2000, he isn't using his usual tyres (Pirelli). He has to put Michelin for international events, and learn them ...

[vino_93]

Only because he fights against pensioners :)
Is Cuoq a pensioner ? For sure no. Ok he is not Loeb or Ogier, but he is very good driver. Remenbered what he was able to do some years ago in RMC.
In 2007 he finished 9th, but at 1 sec / km from Loeb, and in 2008 he finished 7th, fastest than Henning Solberg or PG Andersson.

They are all gentlemen drivers, of course. But not so slow drivers. Brunson, Cuoq, Snobeck (not all the times ...) are good drivers.
But I totally agree that Roche, Beaubelique, ... are simple gentlemen drivers, not so fast.

Edit : but I totally admit that Maurin will never be world champion. Only decent (and not so slow) amator driver.
And he didn't like him at all when he starts. But he improved a lot since a year, now he have a decent speed.

[vino_93]

You've got it!! Actually 'Pilote touristique' is more accurate for 'Tourist driver' but I forgot that in my attempt to be humorous!
we said touriste too, not touristique :) In fact, we don't say "pilote touriste" but simply "des touristes" ;)

[vino_93]

I don't know how old Brunson and Cuoq are, but I'm pretty sure that 66-year old driver won 1 or 2 years ago. And in 2010 or 2011, despite all the WRCs, Bryan Bouffier won the championship driving a much slower S2000 car. So the insult came from Bouffier and not from me :)

Brunson is 39, and Cuoq is 44.
You can't compare the year when Snobeck won (but Snobeck was a great drivers for his age) with today. At this time, he had ther best car and Brunson a poor Sub, with always mechanical troubles. And there was any other opponent for them.

And when Bouffier won the championship, it wasn't againt Brunson, Cuoq, Maurin or Snobeck. No one of them was doing the championship this year, and the contenders where all in S2000 these years :) except Pieter Tsjoen. (and Pierre Roche, but he isn't fast).

If you want Bouffier with S2000 against them, look at last year champ :)

[vino_93]

Damn it, did you see Guglielmi's stage time on SS4? I don't know who he is, but he was 10th overal driving Renault Clio R3! Faster than Bertelli, Leandri, Raoux and Tlustak in S2000 cars. Well done! :up:

eWRC-results.com - profile Pierre Antoine Guglielmi (http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=306&t=Pierre-Antoine-Guglielmi)

For sure, the best local crew with Campana (but not here this year).
Unfortunately he seems not to have so much money ...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen after SS4:

What actually happened on stage 4?
“It was a left corner, maybe two kilometres form the start. There had been a delay of about five to 10 minutes starting the stage and the temperature of the tyres had gone down. There were some fast and medium-speed corners at the beginning of the stage and the car felt like it was okay. But that was the first corner where we were really loading the car. I went into the corner at the perfect speed, braked early and came off the brakes, turned, everything was perfect but I just lost the rear of the car halfway round and we touched the bank. The right-rear tyre went down and we had to drive 10 kilometres on the rim.”

You did well not to lose more time then?
“We had to go as hard as we could, put it like that.”

Can you fight back?
“We’re a minute and a bit down. We’ll put a big push on and see what that brings. But I’m really, really happy with my speed, that was the most important thing.”

What are your feelings now?
“I am absolutely devastated. Its obviously not the lowest but its one of the lowest points of my career.” :(


SS5... Breen takes 8.2 seconds from Kopecky, gap there now 39.7.

Craig Breen has taken 8.2s out of Jan Kopecky as he recovers from his earlier puncture: "I don't settle for points. We were on full soft tyre in there and the car was moving a lot. It was damp and humid at the beginning but it was definitely a stage for hard compound tyres." :)

[hari]

Kubica stopped 3 km before the finish
Now in finish - loosing 6 minutes.

[rallye-vid]

wtf .. :(

[WUff1]

Sorry about Robert - i´d liked him to finish on podium finally :-(

[Kielder]

Electronic problems, not a mistake this time. :(

[Kielder]

‏@Official_iRally (https://twitter.com/Official_iRally) 1m (https://twitter.com/Official_iRally/status/335433570321580034)
"Not out of time control, 4-5 spectators pushing Kubica's DS3 RRC onto public highway, along with co-driver Maciej Baran" :(

[makinen_fan]

Electrical problems apparently with engine ECU

[rallyfun]

Well even DS3 is not perfect...

[rallye-vid]

Kubica: "We have pump problem...I don't know what it is, but the car is not running, but we don't know what is the problem...missing fuel"

Kubica discussing car recovery with team: "We do not have spare parts: fuel-related problem...if we can fix the problem we could come back."

[vino_93]

who, just see the mistake of Breen on Eurosport ... he had lot of luck !

[Kielder]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKe6BoNCUAA3cgd.jpg:large

[Kielder]

SS5 stopped after fire to Fiesta RRC of Lorenzo Bertelli and Mitia Dotta. Both are OK.

[Bartolbia84]

Tour de Corse SS5 stopped after fire to Fiesta RRC of Lorenzo Bertelli and Mitia Dotta. Both crew are reported to be unhurt

[Kielder]

http://www.topgear.com/uk/assets/cms/16d1a07c-5036-4c2d-8572-5dbc58a69b7b/670x377Image.jpg?p=130517_10:39
http://www.topgear.com/uk/assets/cms/337e325b-5a3b-4ed3-b3be-5850b6ad9070/670x377Image.jpg?p=130517_10:43

Rally driving in Corsica with Kris Meeke - BBC Top Gear (http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/corsica-rally-kris-meeke-peugeot-208-r2-2013-05-17?imageNo=1)

[Tom206wrc]

Wen starts SS6 :confused:

[A FONDO]

Wen starts SS6 :confused:

after 15 minutes live on eurosdport

[Vaggelis27]

Craig Breen and Kris Meeke will be very strong with r5...

[rallyfun]

Craig Breen and Kris Meeke will be very strong with r5...

Probably as strong as other top drivers

[Kielder]

Ancian's car :eek: :

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/941223_475446259212607_1534292751_n.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

after 15 minutes live on eurosdport


No time SS6 yet :confused:

[Kielder]

Breen's mistake: ERC TOUR DE CORSE after ss4 - Video Gallery - ERC European Rally Championship - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/videogallery/detail/id_event/5/id/119/t/ERC-TOUR-DE-CORSE-after-ss4)

[Kielder]

No time SS6 yet :confused:

Kopecky is about to end, I posted the link to see it live this morning: Sport Lemon - From Sport - Watch Live Sports Online - FromSport (http://www.sportlemon.tv/)

[RS]

Breen, Kopecky and Bouffier were great to watch onboard on SS6!

Kubica's DS3 RRC may be nice to watch and listen to on the outside but boy that Mini is boring on the onboards :( I guess they just don't have to drive them as hard as S2000 as they don't need to keep the revs up. I hope the R5 are better than this.

[A FONDO]

Finally good performance from Breen this year, but let's see how long can he keep it like that, the rally is long and Kopecky is still my favorite - slow but smartest.

I didnt expect it to happen so quickly, but still.. [attachment=1:2tqp5mat]whistle.gif[/attachment:2tqp5mat]

Pity this great rally is finished already.