[ERC] Rallye Tour de Corse

[mousti]

Wouldn't say so..

[RS]

Far from finished. The top 2 are close, Breen may be close enough too with some luck. The weather might happen tomorrow...

[stefanvv]

I missed some part of 1st day, but looks like it's been interesting. Breen still has chances, also Kubica for some good position

[Tom206wrc]

No news about Meeke's times :confused:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I didnt expect it to happen so quickly, but still.. 3146

Pity this great rally is finished already.

Pity you sound so smug about it.

[WUff1]

This Rally isn´t finished - Breen seems to be very fast, I think position 2 is still possible for him with some luck. I don´t believe Bouffier can catch Kopecky again, he was pushing very hard on SS6, as one could see onboard live at Eurosport, but still couldn´t beat Kopecky or Breen ...

Hard fight also for PC crown between Aigner and Bonnefis.

[Vaggelis27]

In the end if the things continue like this kopecky will take the championship but Breen has not said his last word...Kopecky is like Hirvonen in WRC..Exactly the same...

[bt52b]

In the end if the things continue like this kopecky will take the championship but Breen has not said his last word...Kopecky is like Hirvonen in WRC..Exactly the same...

Won't Breen get the R5 soon, maybe a more competitive car?

[Kielder]

Christophe Casanova also crashed today:

http://staticclub.caradisiac.com/1/sport-auto/photos-rallye/photo/2531100253/3171621c9d/photos-rallye-dscf6565-img.jpg

[RS]

In the end if the things continue like this kopecky will take the championship but Breen has not said his last word...Kopecky is like Hirvonen in WRC..Exactly the same...

Except Kopecky wins..

[liposh]

Won't Breen get the R5 soon, maybe a more competitive car?

P208 R5 will be homologated on 1st October 2013 or 1st January 2014. The first possibility is good for "last word in season 2013" but a way too late for everything else.

[Vaggelis27]

Won't Breen get the R5 soon, maybe a more competitive car?

like what car??

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Top Gear with Kris Meeke in the 208 R2...

Rally driving in Corsica with Kris Meeke - BBC Top Gear (http://www.TOPGEAR.com/uk/photos/corsica-rally-kris-meeke-peugeot-208-r2-2013-05-17)

[Kielder]

Start list for Leg 2: http://www.pksoft.fr/pksoft/RA_TCorseERC_13/17-Heures%20D%C3%A9part%20Etape%202.pdf
Kubica & Citroen Racing decided that they won't run tomorrow.

[zajic]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1153/1153_tour_de_corse_2013_45ed18c863.jpghttp://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1153/1153_tour_de_corse_2013_3207c1de84.jpghttp://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1153/1153_tour_de_corse_2013_72db908736.jpgMore photos from Fridays leg HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1153)

[A FONDO]

did the fiesta move that huge rock??

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1153/1153_tour_de_corse_2013_12f7a9f406.jpg

[Mirek]

Zajic, the first photo looks quite scary, like Cassanova is going to hit those photographers...

[noel157]

did the fiesta move that huge rock??

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1153/1153_tour_de_corse_2013_12f7a9f406.jpg

Looks like it, doesn't it. And it's a big rock.....

[rage82]

Maybe problem for Jan and Breen again has touched a wall and made a lot of damege on the rear of the car
P.S Jan is stopped on the gps tracking map but now is moving

[WUff1]

No good start for Breen ... being surpassed in total classement by Sarrazin.

EDIT: Bouffier took the lead again now.

[rage82]

Bouffier is now the new leader with 12.3 sec. ahead

[Mirek]

And some thought this rally was over last night. This is Tour de Corse, anything can happen. Let's see how it continues.

[Jarek Z]

Bouffier is now the new leader with 12.3 sec. ahead

Hurrah! Hurrah! Lalalalala! What a great morning! :D

[noel157]

Did Breen have an off or was he just slow because of damage/wrong tyres?

[Mirek]

Damage can hardly happen without going off ;) He said he hit something by the rear.

[Vaggelis27]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/968839_10151406284045754_140926423_n.jpg

[noel157]

Damage can hardly happen without going off ;) He said he hit something by the rear.

Well an off is slightly different from hitting something, if you get my meaning.....but going by the picture above it wasn't minor but was lucky to lose only 40 secs. I guess he was blaming tyres...Damage seems cosmetic.

[Mirek]

To me it doesn't look cosmetic, at least the damaged exhaust may cause a lack of power. There can be also moved geometry.

[stefanvv]

The right wheel looks little bent

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Cant believe it, Breen going off so early on day 2 :(

[Allyc85]

Gutted for Breen, but he did say he was going to push for the win. A podium is still possible though :)

[Vaggelis27]

I was sure that he could take time from Bouffier...Despite the problems that he have this two days the good is the speed he had yesterday...

[noel157]

We'll we see if Breen can keep going until service.
Apparently he got his corners mixed up, right pace note, wrong corner....

Is SS8 dry or wet. Rally-base saying completely wet, Julian Porter saying bone dry...

Updated- stage is mostly dry with damp patches.......

[noel157]

Good feed of SS8:
Watch Live Streaming Fia Erc European Rally Championship 2013 Online Free En Vivo at May 18 2013 (http://www.day.to/watch/live/streaming/online/free/en-vivo/1/582034/may-18-2013/fia-erc-european-rally-championship-2013.html)

Coley commentary.

[Vaggelis27]

Craig not only can go the SP the car but only 4,3 from Bouffier!!!!

[noel157]

Craig not only can go the SP the car but only 4,3 from Bouffier!!!!

I'm saying nothing.......... :)

[Mirek]

Interesting quote from Jan in finish of stage. He said Bryan had soft tyres on one side of the car and hard on the other. Jan said he has never seen that. Jan had two hard and two soft in cross.

Anyway very aggressive driving of Bryan in the stage!

[Vaggelis27]

Craig will take very easy the 3rd place from sarrazin...

[vino_93]

Hurrah! Hurrah! Lalalalala! What a great morning! :D
how popular is Bouffier in Poland ? If I remeber correctly he was sportsman of the year some years ago, didn't it ?

[WUff1]

As we have seen at Jänner Rallye, Kopecky can´t be written off ... anything can happen in the next stages. In my experience Bouffier is no constant driver over a longer time, curious if he can keep his actual pace till the end.

[Mirek]

Gugliemi lost over 7 minutes now :(

[WUff1]

how popular is Bouffier in Poland ? If I remeber correctly he was sportsman of the year some years ago, didn't it ?

I think he was Polish champion some years ago? And his co-driver lives in Warzawa according to his facebook-Page.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good time by Breen on SS8 considering his confidence must be affected after two offs...
He certainly has the speed which is the main thing. :)

Just hope Boffier can stay ahead of Kopecky now... Allez Bryan !!

[Vaggelis27]

Good time by Breen on SS8 considering his confidence must be affected after two offs...
He certainly has the speed which is the main thing. :)

Just hope Boffier can stay ahead of Kopecky now... Allez Bryan !!

Fantastic driving from Breen and Bouffier..Kopecky don't deserve to be champion

[Mirek]

I think he was Polish champion some years ago? And his co-driver lives in Warzawa according to his facebook-Page.

Multiple ;)

[Mirek]

Fantastic driving from Breen and Bouffier..Kopecky don't deserve to be champion

Why? He won all events in which he started so far. What more do You want from him? To win every single stage in the championship? Get real...

[stefanvv]

Fantastic driving from Breen and Bouffier..Kopecky don't deserve to be champion

He can push quite hard if it is necessary, but doesn't seem to have full confidence in his car setup currently

[Vaggelis27]

He had win the most rally with retirements of others..

http://best-of-rallylive.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/bestofrallylive/actualites/apres-es8-bouffier-a-fait-le-trou/129368-1-fre-FR/Apres-ES8-Bouffier-a-fait-le-trou_articlethumbnail.jpg

[Francis44]

Fantastic driving from Breen and Bouffier..Kopecky don't deserve to be champion


Kopecky is usually quite fast. I get the feeling he still hasn't found the balance for the car this weekend.

[bluuford]

Kopecky has always finished in front of his main opponent.. and where he is now? in front of his main opponent :-) he does not need to win everything as it was said before. You can drive so that the car is rebuild in service once a day because of the offs.. or you can drive like this that the tyres are changed in service and windscreen washed...

[noel157]

Hmm, I think Kopecky is missing something today. Not quite "at the races".

[RS]

Hmm, I think Kopecky is missing something today. Not quite "at the races".

Sure about that? :D

[Mirek]

He had win the most rally with retirements of others.

There's a saying that You shall not count the rabbits until the hunt is over...

[WUff1]

Kopecky striking back against Bouffier on SS9 - 10,7 sec is really nothing with two long stages remaining ...

[Mirek]

Have You noticed how unstable the Mini of Sarrazin looked in the broadcast of SS8 especially in onboards? The car was moving all the time.

[Vaggelis27]

Have You noticed how unstable the Mini of Sarrazin looked in the broadcast of SS8 especially in onboards? The car was moving all the time.

Both WRC car and RRC are too bad :mad:

[eestlane]

Why kubica is not driving?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kopecky is a very good driver, but not a great one. He was regularly beaten in the same machinery by Hanninen and Mikkelsen...

I like the guy but I dont think his driving excites anyone except his Czech fans.

Consistency is all very well but its not why we remember the greats like McRae etc.

[Vaggelis27]

Why kubica is not driving?

His problem with his car couldn't be fixed..

[Mirek]

Kopecky is a very good driver, but not a great one. He was regularly beaten in the same machinery by Hanninen and Mikkelsen...

I like the guy but I dont think his driving excites anyone except his Czech fans.

Consistency is all very well but its not why we remember the greats like McRae etc.

That's quite pointless argument I think :) Everybody knows that Jan's biggest strength is he is extremely reliable and clever guy. He has never been the fastest around and he will never be. That doesn't disqualify him from championship because it doesn't consist of one stage, even not of one rally but of thirteen. He finished 4x in a row 2nd in the championship even in its strongest years. That can't happen by accident however it showed clearly that there was still the little bit missing.

Anyway he achieved the most of all Czech drivers in history and despite he has never been the one who makes the show or crazy stunts he deserves the fan support he has ;) And for me it's also personal as his co-driver is my friend, so please don't get me wrong ;)

[Georgi]

Does anybody knows why there are just 23 cars finished stage 9 ?

[WUff1]

And I think the only reason why he didn´t win any championship till now (except the Czech of course) is, that he had to focus on different leagues in the past (IRC, ERC but most important Czech championship), whereas Hänninen could focus on ERC (and a little bit IRC) alone. It was Skoda´s policy I suppose - for IRC they had Mikkelsen, for ERC Hänninen and for Czech championship Kopecky. This year Kopecky seems to be their "No 1"-driver and is finally "allowed" to go for ERC trophy, which didn´t seem to be the situation at the start of the season (Kopecky named Jänner, Bohemia and Barum as his only fixed rallys for 2013 at Jänner press meeting).

[noel157]

Sure about that? :D

Just based on his stage end interview after SS8, seemed resigned. Perhaps the Fabia is not quite 100% set-up wise. It may not be a big issue as SS9 has shown.

[Filip]

I don't know if it was mentioned before, but I noticed that cars on this rally don't have license plates or they are covered, does anyone know why is that so? :)

[Vaggelis27]

When i see the rrc cars i wonder why they are in the same category with S2000.They are looking very much stronger..Especially the DS3..

[br21]

Why kubica is not driving?

They (Kubica & Citroen) made a decision not to continue today. Car was ready. Official statement was that he won't drive as he can't score points...

[Jarek Z]

how popular is Bouffier in Poland ? If I remeber correctly he was sportsman of the year some years ago, didn't it ?

I don't remember if he was sportsman of the year or not, but I can tell you, that after winning Polish championship 3 times he is quite popular here. But that's not the only thing that matters. Apart from his great successes he is also a very nice guy and great personality. It's always interesting to read an interview with him, he doesn't speak bull**** like some Polish drivers do. He was a new face in our championship, but he managed to win support and respect of Polish rally fans very quickly.

I always support Bryan and I don't understand people (especially from France), who have someone like Bouffier in their country and say that Maurin is a good driver.

[Jarek Z]

Damage can hardly happen without going off ;) He said he hit something by the rear.

Really? You should listen to the crazy press releases of some Polish drivers (e.g. Kosciuszko) :)

[Vaggelis27]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/941742_525193140872430_450988068_n.jpg

[noel157]

Looks like Andy Aigner can now cruise to the finish, unless something happens over the last 27km.

[WUff1]

Leandri Puncture - now in danger of losing top ten position.

[Mirek]

Sarrazin back ahead of Breen!

[WUff1]

.. and what a fight between Breen and Sarrazin for podium!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen lost 9s to Sarrazin, down to 4th ... didnt expect that. :(

"Difficult, the car's moving a lot in there, and the confidence wasn't really there...

[Vaggelis27]

Breen is 8,5 slower from Sarrazin.... :(

[Mirek]

Breen lost 9s to Sarrazan, down to 4th ... didnt expect that. :(

Take it from the better side, You'll enjoy a thrilling live stage ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Bouffier 2.3s up :)

Jan Kopecky, the ERC title leader, sets a time of 11m57.4s.

"The stage was very tricky and I don't want to make any silly mistake because I have to think about the championship. "

Boooooo. ;)

[Mirek]

Bryan on hard compound, Jan on soft. He put everything on the rain gamble.

[Mirek]

Bouffier 2.3s up :)

Jan Kopecky, the ERC title leader, sets a time of 11m57.4s.

"The stage was very tricky and I don't want to make any silly mistake because I have to think about the championship.

Boooooo. ;)

That's why he is leading the championship ;)

[WUff1]

What a finish between Bouffier and Kopecky too! Like at Jänner Rallye, the rallye will be won on the last stage by either one of these two ...


EDIT: And Manfred Stohl would be very happy too, if both of his drivers would finish at the Top Ten as it looks now if nothing special is happening on the last stage.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice co-driver for the 00 Car :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKjo5eRCMAEBeC8.jpg

[RS]

I think Bouffier has done enough this time, but we will see.

[stefanvv]

Now we'll se what FTW PS stage would be about :D

[WUff1]

I think Bouffier has done enough this time, but we will see.

At Jänner Bouffier was 10,6 sec ahead of Kopecky before the last stage - now it´s 13,0 sec.

[RS]

But at Janner Kopecky was mostly faster but his setback came from a puncture. Here it has been much more even. It is doable but I would give the edge to Bouffier.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The Series needs a different winner... allez Bouffier !!

[noel157]

Looking dry...so far.

[Mirek]

In the moment the stage looks mostly dry, no way Jan could do anything on soft tyres. Only if it starts to rain.

EDIT: Some damp places under trees in the broadcast now.

[noel157]

Bertelli's handbrake lever:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKjpoHACYAAbbMa.jpg

[Mirek]

Breen looking veeery fast in onboard. If timing is correct he is massively faster than Sarrazin!

[pettersolberg29]

Breen looking veeery fast in onboard. If timing is correct he is massively faster than Sarrazin!

Not according to ERC on twitter: Last stage running. Sarrazin is faster than anyone after 4km #FIAERC #TourDeCorse

[rallye-vid]

We are at ~10km now ;)

[Mirek]

Not according to ERC on twitter: Last stage running. Sarrazin is faster than anyone after 4km #FIAERC #TourDeCorse

Speaking about 10 km split.

[noel157]

Not according to ERC on twitter: Last stage running. Sarrazin is faster than anyone after 4km #FIAERC #TourDeCorse

Live feed at first split shows he's 10 secs up on the Mini.

Aigner wins Prod class.

[pettersolberg29]

Damn my lack of live feed ;) sorry guys!

[Mirek]

Kopecký nervous in the onboard now, complaining about late notes...

[noel157]

If Bryan wins will he go over to Chetail at Sainteloc and give him a particular hand gesture..? :)

[WUff1]

After 9 km Bouffier about 6 sec ahead of Kopecky.

[noel157]

Damn my lack of live feed ;) sorry guys!

Try here Watch Live Streaming Fia Erc European Rally Championship 2013 Online Free En Vivo at May 18 2013 (http://www.day.to/watch/live/streaming/online/free/en-vivo/1/582034/may-18-2013/fia-erc-european-rally-championship-2013.html)

[WUff1]

If Bryan wins will he go over to Chetail at Sainteloc and give him a particular hand gesture..? :)

I think winning the rally would be the perfect reaction to the Azores trouble.

[noel157]

Sarrazin gets P3. Good drive.

[Mirek]

Congratulations to Bryan Bouffier for great victory!

[WUff1]

Bravo Bryan!! *thumbs up*

[noel157]

Well done Bryan, great result. Should get the Flat Out trophy too (slightly ahead of Breen I think).

[Mirek]

Jan reported engine problems, he run away immediately, probably afraid to reach finish ramp. The car definitely run on three cylinders when leaving time control. 60 km to go to service. Hopefully the car get there...

[noel157]

Jan reported engine problems, he run away immediately, probably afraid to reach finish ramp. The car definitely run on three cylinders when leaving time control.

I don't think the car was to his liking all weekend. Just a guess.

[Tom206wrc]

WELL DONE BRYAN BOUFFIER, WELL DONE !!!!! :bounce:

[Mirek]

Oliveira crashed!

[WUff1]

Oliveira crashed!

What a shame!

[rallye-vid]

Hard? I missed it..

[Mirek]

There was only a short onboard view looking somewhere into the green. Don't know anything more.

[vino_93]

I don't know if it was mentioned before, but I noticed that cars on this rally don't have license plates or they are covered, does anyone know why is that so? :)
French new regulation. Rally cars don't have plate, they are no more registered in prefecture.

[vino_93]

I don't remember if he was sportsman of the year or not, but I can tell you, that after winning Polish championship 3 times he is quite popular here. But that's not the only thing that matters. Apart from his great successes he is also a very nice guy and great personality. It's always interesting to read an interview with him, he doesn't speak bull**** like some Polish drivers do. He was a new face in our championship, but he managed to win support and respect of Polish rally fans very quickly.

I always support Bryan and I don't understand people (especially from France), who have someone like Bouffier in their country and say that Maurin is a good driver.

Thank ;) In France, no one know him (except rally fans)... it's nice to see he is popular in another country.

We can say that Maurin is a good driver, and like Bouffier too.
And there is a difference between a good driver, and a very good. That's the difference btw Maurin and Bouffier.

[RS]

Shame to end the rally that way for Jan but I think Bouffier had it in the bag anyway. Great drive by him and I hope it leads to more ERC events.

Now for Skoda Motorsport it means they will have to enter Jan for Ypres so he can take away a 100% score for the first half of the season :)

[vino_93]

What a palmares for Bouffier. He realized something very rare : winning all three big french events (RMC, Corse, Antibes). He is joinning Loeb, Delecour, Auriol, Darniche, Nicolas, and Andruet :)

[Sulland]

Is the car Delecour drove the latest spec 207?

[Vaggelis27]

Very good race for Aigner...

[mousti]

Is the car Delecour drove the latest spec 207?
2012 Evo? normally yes.

ERC Standings:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/947072_462984753780671_1959590655_n.png

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Aigner would really deserve to get a proper rally car. He is a very talented guy.

[WUff1]

Aigner would really deserve to get a proper rally car. He is a very talented guy.

At least he holds the Austrian flag high on international rallying :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Happy for Bouffier but disappointed for Breen ...

I think Breen easily deserves the CMR Flat-Out Trophy for his outright speed which would've won the rally easily but for a couple of mistakes.

I'm sure he'll take great confidence from this knowing he has the performance to compete for ERC tarmac wins now. :)

Congrats Bryan !

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3805/8751629258_fccbc1e0e6_z.jpg

[Mintexmemory]

we said touriste too, not touristique :) In fact, we don't say "pilote touriste" but simply "des touristes" ;)
Merci beaucoup ;)

[Mirek]

The problem of Jan was faulty fuel injector. Here some onboard compilation of him:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-lnIrHal0E&feature=player_embedded

By the way, Orsák said that even if it should be his only rally next year, he will return because this is THE rally :) He said he only needs different dampers, shorter gearbox, experience with new tyres and experience with stages like these and than it will be perfect :D

[Jarek Z]

If Bryan wins will he go over to Chetail at Sainteloc and give him a particular hand gesture..? :)

Do you remember my anouncement before Tour de Corse?

High Noon in Corsica, "Bryan Bouffier vs The Two Engined Team" soon in theaters near you :)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JTz43m7I4Jw/T3twIOMb6uI/AAAAAAAAApc/xZCKLRUdeKg/s1600/HighNoon5.9572.jpg

[Mirek]

Violent crash of Ancian
ERC TOUR DE CORSE Ancian crash - Video Gallery - ERC European Rally Championship - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/videogallery/detail/id_event/5/id/131/t/ERC-TOUR-DE-CORSE-Ancian-crash)

And an amazing helicam
ERC TOUR DE CORSE Amazing downhill - Video Gallery - ERC European Rally Championship - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/videogallery/detail/id_event/5/id/130/t/ERC-TOUR-DE-CORSE-Amazing-downhill)

[Jarek Z]

Now we know how the movie ended :D

http://mmimageslarge.moviemail-online.co.uk/7531_high-noon-9.jpg

[Mirek]

Delecour with broken exhaust or a 1970' Porsche engine in his car? :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA3lRLMPEp8

[stefanvv]

Delecour with broken exhaust or a 1970' Porsche engine in his car? :D

Yes, only the Porsche has 2 cylinders more and sounds little bit different

[zajic]

More photos from the second day on Corse HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1153)http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1153/1153_tour_de_corse_2013_fa11877c56.jpghttp://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1153/1153_tour_de_corse_2013_adf1540f1e.jpghttp://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1153/1153_tour_de_corse_2013_b55fa9b720.jpg

[zajic]

did the fiesta move that huge rock??

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1153/1153_tour_de_corse_2013_12f7a9f406.jpg
Yes, Fiesta did it ;) And for Mirek - I know, the photo looks scary, but I was scared too, so I have no photo of inpact to the rock, because I stop shooting. But in fact, the car vas moving from right side of the photo to the left and not forward to the group of photographers. But they were VERY scared and none of them went back to this spot :)

[vino_93]

Violent crash of Ancian
ERC TOUR DE CORSE Ancian crash - Video Gallery - ERC European Rally Championship - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/videogallery/detail/id_event/5/id/131/t/ERC-TOUR-DE-CORSE-Ancian-crash)

And an amazing helicam
ERC TOUR DE CORSE Amazing downhill - Video Gallery - ERC European Rally Championship - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/videogallery/detail/id_event/5/id/130/t/ERC-TOUR-DE-CORSE-Amazing-downhill)

Great !
And this Tour de Corse proved that we can see rally live, without a lot of things ... one helicopter, 10 on boards cam, one journalist + cam at the end of a stage ... and we can see a very good live ! WRC promotor should have look at this !

[Mirek]

Great !
And this Tour de Corse proved that we can see rally live, without a lot of things ... one helicopter, 10 on boards cam, one journalist + cam at the end of a stage ... and we can see a very good live ! WRC promotor should have look at this !

It's actually more difficult. In the mountains You can't transmit the data signal from cars via one low-flying helicopter. I believe at least at the past they used a plane and several helicopters to transmit the signal like they do for Tour de France coverage. Maybe someone can enlighten us how it is now working?

[Vaggelis27]

http://cdn.ircseries.com/uploads/photobank/seasons/2013/events/5_France/day1/big2/big2_kubica_fra_038.JPG
http://cdn.ircseries.com/uploads/photobank/seasons/2013/events/5_France/day2/big2/big2_bertelli_fra_033.JPG
http://cdn.ircseries.com/uploads/photobank/seasons/2013/events/5_France/day2/big2/big2_consani_fra_014.JPG

[Jarek Z]

It's actually more difficult. In the mountains You can't transmit the data signal from cars via one low-flying helicopter. I believe at least at the past they used a plane and several helicopters to transmit the signal like they do for Tour de France coverage. Maybe someone can enlighten us how it is now working?

To be honest I don"t understand why so many people seem to love the helicopter footage so much. To me it completely lacks any dynamics and shows car moving at the speed of a snail. To me rallying is all about dynamics. Before watching rally reports on TV I always hope that there will be as little helicopter footage as possible. The same applies to virtual spectator. I have no idea why some people liked it. But maybe it's just me.

[miniwintz]

Helicopter footage is nice when the heli is chasing the car but otherwise I agree it's rather boring compared to onboard. Problem is, there isn't much room for sponsors on the rear of the car :D

[Rally Hokkaido]

I'd like to congratulate Molly Taylor and co-driver Seb Marshall on scoring 2nd place in the 2WD Cup. Molly also managed one stage win (SS9). I'll spend awhile searching the history books, but they'll likely confirm she's the first Australian to set a fastest stage time (class or overall) at Tour de Corse!

[Mirek]

Helicopter footage is nice when the heli is chasing the car but otherwise I agree it's rather boring compared to onboard. Problem is, there isn't much room for sponsors on the rear of the car :D

Exactly, that's why I pointed that one particular helicam video which is exactly how it shall be done and how it shows the speed.

[Mirek]

I'd like to congratulate Molly Taylor and co-driver Seb Marshall on scoring 2nd place in the 2WD Cup. Molly also managed one stage win (SS9). I'll spend awhile searching the history books, but they'll likely confirm she's the first Australian to set a fastest stage time (class or overall) at Tour de Corse!

Another rally girl Ekaterina Stratieva did also a good rally finishing 5th of 12 in 2WD.

[mousti]

It's actually more difficult. In the mountains You can't transmit the data signal from cars via one low-flying helicopter. I believe at least at the past they used a plane and several helicopters to transmit the signal like they do for Tour de France coverage. Maybe someone can enlighten us how it is now working?

Normally yes, yesterday at Giro d'Italia there was a lot of fog around the mountain where they had to finish and so it was too dangerous to get a heli in the air. So there weren't live images for the whole stage. Besides at the finish..

[A FONDO]

To be honest I don"t understand why so many people seem to love the helicopter footage so much. To me it completely lacks any dynamics and shows car moving at the speed of a snail. To me rallying is all about dynamics. Before watching rally reports on TV I always hope that there will be as little helicopter footage as possible. The same applies to virtual spectator. I have no idea why some people liked it. But maybe it's just me.

It depends. Sometimes helis stand at 90 degrees to the car and it all looks like it simply cruises on a highway. But this time there were nice shots from ABOVE the car, showing the curves of the road around the landscape, sometimes splitscreened with onboard :up: Anyways, heli footage is a good addition but shouldnt' be overused, for my taste not more than 20% of the total time.

[Vaggelis27]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/944233_338221039637825_125924236_n.jpg

[noel157]

Do think this guy wanted to sit in the back of the Mini and do the stage with Sarrazin?... :)

Sarrazin Départ - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlP_u9ONWkQ)

[A FONDO]

A clip reproducing how dynamic rally cars are


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhDAnxF6Rr0

I want to share the page where I saw it because I think it deserves it, plenty of clips and no spam or advertising rest of the time like some populra pages do:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Allmotorsportrelated/316811841690934

[Jarek Z]

I want to share the page where I saw it because I think it deserves it, plenty of clips and no spam or advertising


And no helicopters! :up:

[RS]

To be honest I don"t understand why so many people seem to love the helicopter footage so much. To me it completely lacks any dynamics and shows car moving at the speed of a snail. To me rallying is all about dynamics. Before watching rally reports on TV I always hope that there will be as little helicopter footage as possible. The same applies to virtual spectator. I have no idea why some people liked it. But maybe it's just me.

The helicopter is still the best way to show the car over long sections of stage, you would need many static cameras to do the same, and then lots of cabling for it to be live. I agree it would be nice to have some more stage side cameras too but helicam are an important part of the mix - and as has been pointed out it is a lot easier to read the sponsor names too when the car is panned in the middle of the screen for a long period rather than whizzing through it at 120kmh. Plus the helicopter is much better for showing the stunning scenery that they drive through on some of these events. Azores for example wouldn't have quite the same magic if it was just onboards and stage side cams.

[rallyfun]

The helicopter is still the best way to show the car over long sections of stage, you would need many static cameras to do the same, and then lots of cabling for it to be live. I agree it would be nice to have some more stage side cameras too but helicam are an important part of the mix - and as has been pointed out it is a lot easier to read the sponsor names too when the car is panned in the middle of the screen for a long period rather than whizzing through it at 120kmh. Plus the helicopter is much better for showing the stunning scenery that they drive through on some of these events. Azores for example wouldn't have quite the same magic if it was just onboards and stage side cams.

This is the point, helicam is important as well as onboard cameras but if there are only cameras it is boring, espacially when you can't hear the car. I can't see any problems with few cameras on the stage to show close ups on hairpins, jumps or even stunning scenery (if camera man is good enough) and you don't need lots of cabling. Look at the pictures from rallies even they show frozen moments they still can be very dinamic, dramatic and stunning. Years ago when WRC was on Eurosport they have everything in proportion from helicams to still cams by the side of the road.

[uranium]

Any video coverage of the event so far?

[Mirek]

What exactly are You searching for?

Here plenty of videos from ES: Event Videos' Gallery - ERC European Rally Championship - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/videogallery/list/id/5)
Here complete live coverage: MotorsportFunCyprus - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/MotorsportFunCyprus/videos?view=0)

For more browse youtube ;)

[Mirek]

If somebody is interested in full-stage onboards even with slower driver here are those of Tlusťák (very good camera position).

GPD Mit Metal Racing Team, Tour de Corse 2013, Onboard Tlus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyRYG6uFuAY)
GPD Mit Metal Racing Team, Tour de Corse 2013, Onboard Tlus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohlnpRTItV4)

[A FONDO]

If somebody is interested in full-stage onboards even with slower driver here are those of Tlusťák (very good camera position).

GPD Mit Metal Racing Team, Tour de Corse 2013, Onboard Tlus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyRYG6uFuAY)
GPD Mit Metal Racing Team, Tour de Corse 2013, Onboard Tlus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohlnpRTItV4)

Is there anything with Orsak?

[uranium]

What exactly are You searching for?

Thanks! I have been looking for Eurosport review

[pucky54]

Some photos can be found here:

Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/fotogalerie.php?souzav=74%7C1104&autor=104)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/da2e9f680d2c7624c102092e26421653.jpg

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/6ff0b972b4daf22d3d61a11bcffd8570.jpg

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/ba6bf357c467f3ed495f0dda9919c38f.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/944233_338221039637825_125924236_n.jpg

Knew Breen would win this... nice reward for a great drive. :)

[PLuto]

Photo series of Casanova's crash - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=15276)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/a947e0b3337e5a4a5f5c93177a39e060.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/a171329575d90e6a920e0a45028aa8a3.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/c0c662ee4d4de290402004de45935633.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/5c9d51cfcbfcb7c54bc08c44025933d6.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/57c8a40fc811e66ae7b2006a87e82a81.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

BTW, remembering the Eurosport coverage ... wasn't it great the part at filmed dusk when you could see the exhausts flaming and the brake discs glowing red hot !

Has anyone seen any photos from this stage ? Maurin's Fiesta was particularly spectacular ... :eek:

[pucky54]

BTW, remembering the Eurosport coverage ... wasn't it great the part at filmed dusk when you could see the exhausts flaming and the brake discs glowing red hot !

Has anyone seen any photos from this stage ? Maurin's Fiesta was particularly spectacular ... :eek:

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/557e88a424a80923917567fb2552812b.jpg

[MartijnS]

A photo of Maurin at the stopfinish.

https://twitter.com/The_Rally_Guru/status/335536138703994880/photo/1

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Took a screen grab to give an idea... there must be some proper photos out there though...

The guy on Eurosport said the photographers would be in their element with such great images showing up with the cars running at dusk ...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/EddieFocus/Maurin1_zpsb1710444.jpg

[pucky54]

I guess there were not so much photographers on that stage, as it was quite late, and still a long way to go to Ajaccio afterwards...

[RS]

Taking about the Eurosport commentary from Corsica, Andrew Coley was excellent again but the other guy this time was possibly worse than Carlton Kirby! Coley/Wilks would be better...

[noel157]

Would agree, Coley is very good, informed and nice and calm. Who is the other guy? He wasn't so good at picking/suggesting who the "driver of the rally" should be.

BTW, the Top Gear onboard of Meeke on the test stage in the R2:

Video: Corsica rally stage with Kris Meeke - BBC Top Gear (http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/video-rally-corsica-with-kris-meeke-2013-5-17)

[giedriusr]

nice video