Ypres Rally

[PLuto]

and Lukacs Kornel?

Only PJM Cracco is listed as retired?

All info about retirements you can find here: Geko Ypres Rally 2013 - Retired crews - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2013/geko-ypres-rally-2013/retired/)

[smokin'joe]

it's a long day for them today. almost 12 hours on the go.

[WUff1]

All info about retirements you can find here: Geko Ypres Rally 2013 - Retired crews - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2013/geko-ypres-rally-2013/retired/)

Thank you! Didn´t find the others there in the morning, probably a cache problem, who knows.

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Why Orsak didn't restart today?

[noel157]

Bouffier got engine problems?

[Sulland]

Consani's off:

Geko Ypres rally 2013 - Crash Consani Mégane R4 [HD-Pure sound] By Devillersvideo - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvuE9Ki3iwk)

And Bestofrallylive's day 1 (with Ari the spectator..):

Day 1 - 2013 ERC Geko Ypres Rally - Best-of-RallyLive.com - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlCBi1jXjzI)


I do not like, and find it strange behaviour that cameramen and all others in the area are not;
1. Run over to Consanis car, ask if he is ok and
2. ask if he want to be flipped back on the wheels to try to continue.
3. Warn incoming cars, to get them to slow down.

This is normal rally behaviour up in Norden,is it not further south?

[noel157]

Freddy slow(ish) in first stage?

[PLuto]

3. Warn incoming cars, to get them to slow down.

This was the problem of accident of Kornel Lukacs. Car in front of him crashed and the pole fallen into the road. But nobody was warning next car...

[RS]

Freddy slow(ish) in first stage?

Cruising today.

[noel157]

Cruising today.

He's probably listening to some music every stage too :)
No need to go fast.

[OldF]

(1 - Breen Craig / Nagle Paul): It was strange, on the crossing of the roads in the field we could see Hayden going towards us, but it was OK, just strange a bit. :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS10 Breen 14.5s faster than Paddon and up to 3rd. Bouffier next target.

4 straight stage wins this morning.

[WUff1]

Bad luck for Andreas Aigner - lost his chances of winning PC classement on SS 10, if nothing happens to Lefevere on the remaining stages.

[Kielder]

Bad luck for Andreas Aigner - lost his chances of winning PC classement on SS 10, if nothing happens to Lefevere on the remaining stages.

:(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BN63q67CAAAQhzI.jpg:large

[WUff1]

:(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BN63q67CAAAQhzI.jpg:large


Thank you!

[WUff1]

Aigner back to service on 4 wheels according to Twitter - and problems for Bouffier maybe coming back, stopped on the way back to service.

[darkstar]

loix lost a lot of time in stage 12, around 1:30 min.

edit: timing seems to have some issues...ss12 is not even started :D

[WUff1]

More drama for Aigner on SS 11 - front left wheel damaged, loosing again a lot of time

[vino_93]

Did anyone notice the times done by North of France amator driver Johan Vanson yesterday ?

With his old Evo VI he done a 7th place on stage :eek: And was 14th at the end of the day :p
eWRC-results.com - results Geko Ypres Rally 2013 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=7312&d=347674&t=Geko-Ypres-Rally-2013)

Unfortunately I couldn't see him racing yesterday :(

Thank to Tommeke for the places to go ! :) First in Dikkebus cimeterary was nice, extraordinary fast. And just before a mud corner (thank to rain) with jump. Really nice place.
The second at the end of Mesen was a bit more difficult to judge due to the heavy rain ... Aigner was in aquaplaning, I don't know how he stayed on the road ! The corner were full of water, and the fields were full of mud :)

[Tom206wrc]

Timo van der Marel SS13 :confused:

[vino_93]

My pictures from first day :
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/geko_ypres_rally_2013/tbr_ypres%202013%20253.jpg


http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/geko_ypres_rally_2013/tbr_ypres%202013%20515.jpg


http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/geko_ypres_rally_2013/tbr_ypres%202013%20268.jpg


http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/geko_ypres_rally_2013/tbr_ypres%202013%20379.jpg


http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/geko_ypres_rally_2013/tbr_ypres%202013%20650.jpg


More here : eWRC-results.com - archive and online results from WRC and rally (http://www.ewrc-results.com/foto.php?e=7312&t=Geko-Ypres-Rally-2013)

[WUff1]

Paddon off the road, listed as retired

EDIT: Molly Taylor finally retired too.

[Tom206wrc]

Over for Paddon(SS10) :(

[Juha_Koo]

Paddon's off said to be sixth gear crash. Some pain in shoulder, but not confirmed?

[Tom206wrc]

Weird Jan de Winkel isn't amon te fastest 2WDs in Ypres :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Léandri in SS15 :confused:

[WUff1]

Another stage win for Bouffier - will get harder and harder for Breen to surpass him.

Bouffier really is a phenomen - often needs half the rally to find his rhythm, shows a rather dissappointing appearance in the first half of a rally, then he is really fast and hardly to beat in the second half. One could see this on all his international appearances this year.

[dimviii]

Another stage win for Bouffier - will get harder and harder for Breen to surpass him.

Bouffier really is a phenomen - often needs half the rally to find his rhythm, shows a rather dissappointing appearance in the first half of a rally, then he is really fast and hardly to beat in the second half. One could see this on all his international appearances this year.

Latvala also last year was fast at last day. ;)

[ProRally]

Or get sucked into the trap of Ypres and stuffs it.... time will tell

Time has spoken....

[PLuto]

Weird Jan de Winkel isn't amon te fastest 2WDs in Ypres :confused:

He lost his chances also because of puncture (Geko Ypres Rally 2013 - Jan De Winkel / Radboud Van Hoek - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=234&crewId=19762&cupId=57))

[noel157]

Bouffier and Lara onboard SS4, time to wave to spectators:

Bryan Bouffier Onboard SS4 - ERC Geko YPRES Rally Belgium 2013 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSmcmm3C5GM&feature=youtu.be)

[dimviii]

watch the condition of road
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q71/s720x720/1013536_10151683449034507_148573950_n.jpghttps://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q74/s720x720/945007_580148142008128_1439035118_n.jpg

[dimviii]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q71/s720x720/1014365_382464401854839_1898329845_n.jpghttp://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/eurosport-erc/uploads/photobank/seasons/2013/events/7_Belgium/day1/big2/big2_Breen_Bel_19.JPGhttp://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/eurosport-erc/uploads/photobank/seasons/2013/events/7_Belgium/day1/big2/big2_Loix_Bel_21.JPG

[zajic]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1165/1165_geko_ypres_rally_2013_5787d430b9.jpghttp://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1165/1165_geko_ypres_rally_2013_03f92b4152.jpghttp://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1165/1165_geko_ypres_rally_2013_8c03a5082c.jpgDay 2, more photos HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1165)

[WUff1]

SS20 has been stopped! According to ERC live because of Pajunen (car blocking stage) - according to Rallybase Fire of Vanneste Davy?

[WUff1]

Hope nothing serious ...

Bouffier lost over 1 minute!

[Jarek Z]

I do not like, and find it strange behaviour that cameramen and all others in the area are not;
1. Run over to Consanis car, ask if he is ok and
2. ask if he want to be flipped back on the wheels to try to continue.
3. Warn incoming cars, to get them to slow down.

This is normal rally behaviour up in Norden,is it not further south?

It is also normal rally behaviour in Poland, that people are helping the crew and/or warning the next crew. Maybe Belgians can't do that, because in this country you have to stand very far from the road and often behind some fences? I heard that security rules are very strict over there.

[WUff1]

Breen stuck in a ditch! And it´s Vanneste and Pajunen ...

EDIT: only Pajunen - crew is ok!

[Tom206wrc]

SS20 has been stopped! According to ERC live because of Pajunen (car blocking stage) - according to Rallybase Fire of Vanneste Davy?

Fire is for Pajunen :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Breen stuck in a ditch! ...

Nooooo ;(

[WUff1]

Nooooo ;(

Breen is going again!

EDIT: no good last stage for Sainteloc - Leandri didn´t start on SS 20.

[dimviii]

wtf!!!

[dimviii]

Vaneste
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q75/s720x720/1013690_10201483079908241_1120202192_n.jpg

[RS]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1165/1165_geko_ypres_rally_2013_03f92b4152.jpg

I am struggling to work out how he did that?

[RS]

They will neutralise the last stage I presume. Looks like some drivers stopped or slowed to check everything was ok?

[WUff1]

SS 20 is neutralised - Rally is over!

[WUff1]

Vaneste
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q75/s720x720/1013690_10201483079908241_1120202192_n.jpg

WTF!

[WUff1]

It´s really 2 cars on fire according to Twitter ERC.

[dimviii]

Loix fans had already stamp the t shirts
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BN9EGj0CIAIV7zX.jpg:large

[stefanvv]

I am struggling to work out how he did that?

This is very delusive. First impression is that car comes from left, but it is not really :D

[dimviii]

Congrats to Loix for his 8th win at Ypres.Clearly a step ahead from others.

[noel157]

I am struggling to work out how he did that?

Still can't work it out. Usual result of a yump on a crossroads but it's looks a T junction, 90 right. Weird. Unless it a fork?

[mousti]

Very dramatic stage for us where we did TC it all began with Leandri's problems with engine couldn't continue to the start. Croes also problems, then the reports of the fire.. Vanneste's 207 totally burned out :(

[mas-racing]

video day 2 of the ERC Geko Ypres Rally 2013 : ERC GEKO YPRES RALLY 2013 DAG 2 (http://www.mas-racing.be/nl-17836-10003-erc-geko-ypres-rally-2013-dag-2.html)

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/startfotoerczaterdagieper2013_zps63507ce7.jpg (http://s1354.photobucket.com/user/freddyzonnebeke/media/startfotoerczaterdagieper2013_zps63507ce7.jpg.html )

[gianni123]

Geko Ypres Rally - 2013

+ hot moment neuville

Geko Ypres Rally - 2013 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_1h2EG0S74)

[darkstar]

Still can't work it out. Usual result of a yump on a crossroads but it's looks a T junction, 90 right. Weird. Unless it a fork?


i think this video answers it:


Geko Ypres Rally - 2013

+ hot moment neuville

Geko Ypres Rally - 2013 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_1h2EG0S74)

it´s a proper jump. nice video by the way!

[RS]

Ahh, I get it. Just the angle the photo was taken from.

Breen looked really on it in that video, yet was still no quicker than a cruising Loix. Either his style wasn't that efficient or the Skoda really is a lot faster than the Peugeot in these types of roads.

[vino_93]

Does anyone know how the fire happened on Viaene car ?

[noel157]

i think this video answers it:



it´s a proper jump. nice video by the way!

Thanks.

[rallymen123]

Pictures Ypres Historic Rally online on www.bvrallypics.be (http://www.bvrallypics.be/)

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/sized_Ieper-V2013131_zps84c2b788.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/rallymen123/media/sized_Ieper-V2013131_zps84c2b788.jpg.html)
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/sized_Ieper-Z2013125_zps7cefae36.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/rallymen123/media/sized_Ieper-Z2013125_zps7cefae36.jpg.html)
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/sized_Ieper-Z2013198_zpsb28cac1d.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/rallymen123/media/sized_Ieper-Z2013198_zpsb28cac1d.jpg.html)
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/sized_Ieper-Z2013449_zps1c219379.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/rallymen123/media/sized_Ieper-Z2013449_zps1c219379.jpg.html)
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/sized_Ieper-V2013229_zps62fba522.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/rallymen123/media/sized_Ieper-V2013229_zps62fba522.jpg.html)

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PDM_Uu-lqXshttps://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/q71/s720x720/1000192_534570126590847_454068223_n.jpghttps://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q71/s720x720/1011191_560025564039797_212319626_n.jpg

[dimviii]

Pajunen
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/q77/s720x720/1044007_10200982769305914_1064957682_n.jpghttps://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q81/s720x720/17482_10200712488506912_1880702447_n.jpghttps://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q71/s720x720/1011170_10151562666053952_1328027740_n.jpg

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=O2qBLOwY4V0

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3JdErQTwTow

[gianni123]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvdmlLLU0_4

[tommeke_B]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1008490_401401653310278_1515118173_o.jpg Why Verschueren retired..

[tommeke_B]

Had a great event by the way... Some review and my photos are following later.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1044881_635778553100701_874851917_n.jpg

[WUff1]

Does anyone know how the fire happened on Viaene car ?

Vanneste and Pajunen both cracked fuel systems.

[mas-racing]

video Ypres historic Rally 2013 with crash of Glenn Jansens : YPRES HISTORIC RALLY 2013 (http://www.mas-racing.be/nl-17836-10005-ypres-historic-rally-2013.html)

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/startfotohistoricieper2103_zpsc8d7e3a4.jpg (http://s1354.photobucket.com/user/freddyzonnebeke/media/startfotohistoricieper2103_zpsc8d7e3a4.jpg.html)

[dupanton]

Had a pretty good Ypres Rally. Some very fast and impressive spots. Breen, Kobus, Bonnefis very spectacular!

Pics on http://www.facebook.com/tacrally, both historic and ERC

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/s720x720/992796_480974331981713_61297917_n.png
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/1013089_480974651981681_1722665387_n.png
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/1003834_480975145314965_1353652478_n.png

[dimviii]

like this one!
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/942608_480974825314997_1114717644_n.png

[tommeke_B]

Photos online on www.rally-image.be (http://www.rally-image.be)

http://rally-image.be/foto/0371/images/001.jpg

http://rally-image.be/foto/0371/images/046.jpg

http://rally-image.be/foto/0371/images/039.jpg

http://rally-image.be/foto/0371/images/006.jpg

http://rally-image.be/foto/0371/images/097.jpg

[noel157]

Tom, thoughts on Fiesta v 208 in R5?

[dimviii]

nice video with close calls,moments+Aigners crash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jzRumKw_z_Q

[tommeke_B]

Tom, thoughts on Fiesta v 208 in R5?
In general the 208 is a much more spectacular car, the sound is there, and the car is much more nervous. But I think that is because of the bad suspension. My feeling is that the engine of the 208 R5 could be slightly better (but of course I can't give a really objective answer on that, as the sound is giving too much influence :D )... But the Fiesta was much more stabile than the 208 R5. For example on the last stage we were, the cars arrived at top speed (RPM limiter) and then had a left corner, it could be flat out if there's no big bump. When Meeke was passing by, the back of the car jumped half a meter in the air, going completely sideways and he had to fight to get it back, for some 50m after that. Neuville with the Fiesta was probably as fast, maybe even faster, but the car was jumping only slightly, completely flat, no big moment at all and in the end he gained time there. It also looked like Meeke was really "overdriving" the car, he pushed extremely hard, which was great to see. Neuville was driving extremely fast too, but cleaner. Mirek took some times on the stages (for example if we had a long overview for like 1km), sometimes the 208 was slightly faster, sometimes the Fiesta was slightly faster. But regarding that Peugeot still gives themselves half a year for development, while the Fiesta is practically a finished product, I'm afraid the Fiesta isn't going to be a competitive car for long... The times were very close to the times of Loix-Fabia by the way, only slightly faster most of the time. But Ypres-stages are very well suited for S2000-cars (I can't believe a RRC-car with top driver could beat top driver with Fabia here).

[noel157]

Thanks Tom, very interesting and perhaps Meeke had a point when he suggested that the Fiesta may have been homologated too early. Also the 208 only started asphalt testing a few weeks ago.
Look forward to Mirek's view when he gets back.

[rallymen123]

Pictures Geko Ypres Rally 2013 online on www.bvrallypics.be (http://www.bvrallypics.be/)

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/sized_Ieper-V2013014_zps5aa713e1.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/rallymen123/media/sized_Ieper-V2013014_zps5aa713e1.jpg.html)
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http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/sized_Ieper-Z2013291_zps6cece0ff.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/rallymen123/media/sized_Ieper-Z2013291_zps6cece0ff.jpg.html)
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/sized_Ieper-Z2013027_zps7b682dd7.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/rallymen123/media/sized_Ieper-Z2013027_zps7b682dd7.jpg.html)
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/sized_Ieper-V2013276_zpseb0f405a.jpg (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/rallymen123/media/sized_Ieper-V2013276_zpseb0f405a.jpg.html)

[dimviii]

Thanks Tom, very interesting and perhaps Meeke had a point when he suggested that the Fiesta may have been homologated too early. Also the 208 only started asphalt testing a few weeks ago.
Look forward to Mirek's view when he gets back.

from videos i have to agree with Tom about 208 being nervous comparing with fiesta.

[JieM]

http://youtu.be/DMwJZwOq2RA

[Mirek]

Bouffier really is a phenomen - often needs half the rally to find his rhythm, shows a rather dissappointing appearance in the first half of a rally, then he is really fast and hardly to beat in the second half. One could see this on all his international appearances this year.

That's because Bryan doesn't test before the rally. He has no budget for that!

[Juha_Koo]

I wonder how Pajunen's fire affects to AT Rally Team's operation for the following rallies.

[Mirek]

Somebody asked for my view :) I will repeat Tom a bit. First of all I have to admit that after a disappointing shakedown (mainly because of the stupid qualification) I really enjoyed the R5. Especially Meeke with the Peugeot was the most spectacular what You could see in Ypres (and for me one of the biggest spectacles ever from one driver and one car). It's questionable how it will be with worse drivers. I believe Meeke and Neuville would be spectacular in any car...

Fiesta looks much more balanced, suspension worked well over the bumps etc. It still dives a lot on brakes like all S2000/RRC/WRC Fiestas but I didn't notice the R5 touching ground by the sump guard on rough places (something very common with the S2000). The engine sounds very boring and quiet. It's a pity because it removes a lot from the overall impression. I noticed people often didn't realized Neuville was already coming because You didn't hear the car from distance (even otherwise quiet Lancers can be heard by banging anti-lag). We saw only extremely fast places so I can't comment how it accelerates or look in hairpins or junctions.

Peugeot is still very raw, You can see provisional details everywhere. For example there was no safety foam in the door, just empty covers. The holes for door handles were manually cut etc. There are several interesting things I noticed. First 208 R5 has angled struts á la Fiesta (all dampers tilted back). I have never seen that on PSA top-class cars. Second is that 208 has several additional rollcage struts which are not on any other car I know neither in Fiesta R5 so it's not some new regulations. For example there is a triangle connecting the middle joint of door X struts with the floor/door sill and seat mounting. Another two additional struts are in the roof. They are crossing the roof V going from the top side-window joint at the crew heads in direction to the middle of front screen top transversal strut. I don't know if You get what I mean but anyway it's nice to see some more attention to the crew safety. For spectators the 208 like it is now is great because the car is moving all the time, the rear axle seems to be really nervous. The car has really nice and quite loud sound and Meeke was just mad :)

I measured three times some distance I could overlook.

SS1 - still almost dry; we were circa 1,5 km before finish and if I remember right the next car after Neuville was Meeke, not 00, so there could not be any overtaking before. If they started in exact minute Meeke was 7 seconds faster there. In our overview it was like this (no other cars close to them to slow them down): Meeke 32,0; Loix +0,2; Neuville +1,3

SS6 - a lot of water and mud, already after Breen's problem so Loix on safe mode: Neuville 42,2; Meeke and Loix both +2

SS19 - dry, some mud, again Loix in safe mode: Neuville 35,5; Meeke and Loix both +1 (the big moment of Meeke Tom was writing about was here)

In SS15 there was a section of fast dirty corners from one to another following by flat out section towards some small jump. Both R5 and Loix reached rpm limiter in similar place. Loix had probably longest gearbox of all S2000 with top speed over 180 km/h (except Solowow's RRC). Would be interesting to know the R5. But here it could have been sure affected by the speed out of those difficult corners.

Tomorrow I'll write more about my impressions from the actual competition. Now I can say that it was extremely spectacular rally in the places where Tom brought me. BIG thanks to him!

[gianni123]

some videos from neuville

Jump

Big Jump Neuville Fiesta R5 - Ypres Rally 2013 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Pp09a69bk)

Neuville on the limit

Neuville Fiesta R5 on the limit - Ypres Rally 2013 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDhILEUbivw)

[Jarek Z]

Bouffier really is a phenomen - often needs half the rally to find his rhythm, shows a rather dissappointing appearance in the first half of a rally, then he is really fast and hardly to beat in the second half. One could see this on all his international appearances this year.

And what did you expect? Bouffier is a great driver, but:
1. He had a completely new co-driver
2. He didn't have any tests with the new co-driver
3. French isn't a native language of his new co-driver
4. He didn't have any tests before the rally
5. He has to fight for a budget before each rally this year
6. He switches teams nearly for each rally

Considering the circumstances he did an amazing job! Again! Well done Bryan! :)

[Mirek]

like this one!
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/942608_480974825314997_1114717644_n.png

This is an absolutely amazing place, for top crews maybe the best I have visited in Ypres. The photo of Breen almost going off ( https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/s720x720/992796_480974331981713_61297917_n.png ) is just following corner. I was there and also last year. This year it was more crazy :)

[rochey]

This is an absolutely amazing place, for top crews maybe the best I have visited in Ypres. The photo of Breen almost going off ( https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/s720x720/992796_480974331981713_61297917_n.png ) is just following corner. I was there and also last year. This year it was more crazy :)

Have to say I did enjoy the two R5 cars!

Where is this location Mirek...care to share? :)

[tommeke_B]

Have to say I did enjoy the two R5 cars!

Where is this location Mirek...care to share? :)
http://goo.gl/maps/J6RI1 - Here it is. ;)

[tommeke_B]

Crash Craig Breen KP20 Hollebeke - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JQNGT7wX3c) - Breen was very lucky that Vanneste got a fire and the last stage was cancelled...

[Mirek]

http://goo.gl/maps/J6RI1 - Here it is. ;)

So my memory served me well and those trees on the right side were really cut since last year. I found them missing when I was there :)

Was crash of Verschueren here?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xuhZMJvZjI

[pucky54]

6. He switches teams nearly for each rally

Hmmm...I don't agree with that. He is with Delta Rally for one and a half year already.
Except his one offs at Monte Carlo and some promo-drives for Peugeot 208 R2 at the end of last year.

He did and amazing job of course.


I still cannot see a plus in the qualifying when most of the spectators leave after about 35 passes and teams who are not regularly running in these conditions need some time to work on the setup don't get the chance to do so...

[rochey]

http://goo.gl/maps/J6RI1 - Here it is. ;)

Cheers Tom....that's not what I expected to see!

It looks a bit erm...boring...what makes it so spectacular? :)

[tommeke_B]

Cheers Tom....that's not what I expected to see!

It looks a bit erm...boring...what makes it so spectacular? :)

The cars and the drivers make it so spectacular. :)

They arrive on very very high speed, then they have the first left one where they have a very deep, what we call "wrong cut" (when the cut is higher than the road itself), and then they go into this long right corner which is a bit slower than the corner before. On top of that it is slightly downhill, which makes it more spectacular for smaller cars too.

[tommeke_B]

So my memory served me well and those trees on the right side were really cut since last year. I found them missing when I was there :)

Was crash of Verschueren here?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xuhZMJvZjI
Yes, couldn't get out of the ditch... Game over.

[Mirek]

Cheers Tom....that's not what I expected to see!

It looks a bit erm...boring...what makes it so spectacular? :)

The first shot in this video from last year is from that place. The video can't bring the feeling of speed You have there live unfortunately. Also last year there was very strong wind which caused the cars were not heard coming.
Geko Ypres Rally 2012 [HD] by JM - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waohPSkTSis)

[Jarek Z]

Hmmm...I don't agree with that. He is with Delta Rally for one and a half year already.
Except his one offs at Monte Carlo and some promo-drives for Peugeot 208 R2 at the end of last year.


Only this year Bouffier drove Citroen DS3 WRC, DS3 R3T, Peugeot 207 S2000 and 208 R2. They come from different teams and I'm not even sure if I listed all of his activities :)

[rochey]

The cars and the drivers make it so spectacular. :)

They arrive on very very high speed, then they have the first left one where they have a very deep, what we call "wrong cut" (when the cut is higher than the road itself), and then they go into this long right corner which is a bit slower than the corner before. On top of that it is slightly downhill, which makes it more spectacular for smaller cars too.

Ah, I see!

I couldn't see where on the google map that set of corners is though...did I spot a windmill in the background? Can't see that on the map!

(I do wear glasses though!) ;)

[Mirek]

So here my thoughts about some drivers I promised. If You don't want to read, just skip it ;)

Meeke - completely mad drive, also because of the car, extremely spectacular
Neuville - very fast but not so crazy, sure also because of the car
Loix - very aggressive but precise on Friday, quite relaxed on Saturday, no cuts if not necessary, lifting the throttle in some dangerous places; the more surprising was his big jump on first Kemmelberg
Bouffier - saw no big moment of him, nice fluent driving with very precise lines, got the chance and grabbed it, the car seemed to be lacking to Saintéloc ones
Breen - very risky driving, all over the place, very spectacular though
Lefevere - almost invisible, great times though
Kobus - very spectacular, looked much faster than his times, had short gearbox and Kumho tyres, maybe the reason...
Solowow - good that he is back in Ford, the car suits him well, he was driving very well, pity he went off on SS5, his car seemed to be set up perfectly, no signs of nervous behavior on bumps or jumps
Paddon - looked really fast but not overdriving, good for first Ypres but hardly something mind blowing, crashed like many others
Aigner - on Friday all his moments went well, on Saturday his luck ended, too aggressive, all over the place, very spectacular though
Vanneste - very good driving, no risky moments, with that old car he is the hero of the rally, the fire on the last stage was a true shame...
Bonnefis - it's probably harder to drive much better with Mégane, again better than his teammate
Debackere - just a shadow of herself, never saw her so bad like on Friday water and mud, seems like she didn't find her comfortable with the new tyres
Hadik - tidy and clean drive, a bit similar like Lefevbre that You hardly noticed him
Tlusťák - as usually one foot on the brake pedal in all fast sections, surprisingly brave on a high speed bump of SS19 when he tried to attack Hadik
Pajunen - real disappointment, didn't look fast at all plus added several mistakes
Tidemand - very aggressive, some mistakes
Van der Marel - much cleaner lines, more fluent style
De Cecco, Baugnet - also very aggressive driving
Boon - something between, I liked his driving but pity of the penalty for being early to TC
Orsák - I told to Tom on shakedown he would sure crash and he did, I just didn't expect that so early, very good time from SS1 is hardly enough
Leandri - very strange drive, still moving the car from side to side, braking early but unstably etc.
Verschueren - pity we didn't see much of him and his car, looked good before the accident

We saw 10 stages of modern cars, 1 of historics and shakedown. Have to say that shakedown and historics were some kind of disappointment, I probably expected too much.

[tommeke_B]

Ypres Rally 2013 - Crash Breen!!!!!!! (sec.40) Exclusive footage!! Spectacular!! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzu1iZl1ckk) Breen his silly mistake on the last stage, at 40s in the video -TIP put your speakers quiet-.

[pucky54]

Only this year Bouffier drove Citroen DS3 WRC, DS3 R3T, Peugeot 207 S2000 and 208 R2. They come from different teams and I'm not even sure if I listed all of his activities :)

Yes, like I said DS3 WRC was one off Monte start in PH Sport car, but the other cars are all run by Delta Rally, so he knows the people around him very well ;)

[pucky54]

Solowow - good that he is back in Ford, the car suits him well, he was driving very well, pity he went off on SS5, his car seemed to be set up perfectly, no signs of nervous behavior on bumps or jumps

That is known as the "Rox-effect" :D :D

[liposh]

I made some "onboard comparison" of old S2000 and new R5. It was Freddy´s qualification run, but I don´t know whether it was fastest run of Neuville. Anyway I think you will enjoy it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf5_gyG7Duo

[WUff1]

Yes, like I said DS3 WRC was one off Monte start in PH Sport car, but the other cars are all run by Delta Rally, so he knows the people around him very well ;)

I knew of his ERC and WRC3 appearances with Delta Rally, but I didn´t know that his starts in Polish championship are also backed by them.

Don´t misunderstand my original posting, I believe he´s one of the most underrated drivers in Europe, only lacking the funds of many others.

[RS]

I made some "onboard comparison" of old S2000 and new R5. It was Freddy´s qualification run, but I don´t know whether it was fastest run of Neuville. Anyway I think you will enjoy it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf5_gyG7Duo

Really good! You should get a job with Eurosport :)

Very close all the way through, the Fabia does seem a little quicker out of very slow corners.

[pucky54]

Don´t misunderstand my original posting, I believe he´s one of the most underrated drivers in Europe, only lacking the funds of many others.

Thats for sure, of course!!

[dupanton]

like this one!
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/942608_480974825314997_1114717644_n.png

Tnx!
In the next onboard with Patrick Snijers (BMW 130i), you can see the same section (used in a local rally) with a big sideways moment just a bit further: Rallysprint Monteberg 2013 Onboard Patrick Snijers SS3 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/rTiG_t5rdhY?t=4m) (certainly watch untill 4'20

[tommeke_B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dvKmCNQjn5k#at=877 - Watch after 14min40... You can't get much more unlucky than that, crashing over a pole that is lying on the road.

[noel157]

Tom, pole left by a car ahead that crashed?

[tommeke_B]

Tom, pole left by a car ahead that crashed?

No it was too lazy to stand up. :D Fell down after the driver before drove into it yes. There is something called a yellow flag system for this...

[noel157]

Belgium poles are very lazy...
Kornel should send the guy an invoice.

[Kurt L.]

My album from ypres

https://plus.google.com/photos/100842182525832136667/albums/5895762040688686993

[Kurt L.]

Bouffier and Lara onboard SS4, time to wave to spectators:

Bryan Bouffier Onboard SS4 - ERC Geko YPRES Rally Belgium 2013 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSmcmm3C5GM&feature=youtu.be)

if you are wondering who she's waiving at

https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/100842182525832136667/albums/5895762040688686993/5895768602013907458?pid=5895768602013907458&oid=100842182525832136667

[dimviii]

:vader:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1fv7BotuTIM

[rochey]

Yes, couldn't get out of the ditch... Game over.

Could anyone show me exactly where this corner is on google maps please?
Have spent ages now trying to find it and it's driving me crazy!! :)

[tommeke_B]

Could anyone show me exactly where this corner is on google maps please?
Have spent ages now trying to find it and it's driving me crazy!! :)

http://goo.gl/maps/0CVJc Here it is. ;)

[rochey]

http://goo.gl/maps/0CVJc Here it is. ;)


HaHa!!

I looked at that area so many times on google maps because of the name of the road and with the windmill being at the end of the street but dismissed it because there was no industrial buiding on the right....I now realise that that building was obviously constructed after the google car went through!!

Cheers Tom!

You must say hello if you go to the Omloop in September as I will be going to that! :)

[Mirek]

Tom lives in Roeselare so he must be present in Omloop rally ;)

[tommeke_B]

Of course I'll be there, it's my home-event :) If you need any tips, don't mind to ask. ;)

[rochey]

Of course I'll be there, it's my home-event :) If you need any tips, don't mind to ask. ;)

That's a deal! I know a few good spots, but you cannot beat real local knowledge!

Cheers!! :)

[sete]

my gallery from rally
mirousxl | seznam alb ? rajce.net (http://mirousxl.rajce.idnes.cz/)

for me,it was a first visit of Ypres and for me it was great rally (weather should be better next time :-) )

[tommeke_B]

Ypres Rally 2013 New Cars - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_S42Miea5w&feature=youtu.be) Some mistake from Meeke while warming tyres...

[MartijnS]

Nice of him to just drive away!

[tommeke_B]

Twitter: Kris Meeke: My HANS device fell across my lap and got stuck in the steering wheel!
Embarrassing! All was sorted with the owner!

[MartijnS]

Ok good! :)

[EightGear]

Onboard of Hermen Kobus on SS18: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FUZ2pW_9KM&sns=tw

[millbrook]

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/2811/jkf6.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/jkf6.jpg/)
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/5607/gjjv.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/gjjv.jpg/)
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/4230/3d96.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/534/3d96.jpg/)
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/7346/frun.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/819/frun.jpg/)
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/363/6mcr.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/59/6mcr.jpg/)

[Mirek]

Watch the tyres :)

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/geko_ypres_rally_2013/pfi_img_9242.jpg

[Juha_Koo]

There's been some talk here about ERC-website news being, well rather one-of-a-kind, but I have to say this one is completely absurd... :D

Kubica is fast but Breen is faster in the ERC - News - ERC European Rally Championship - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/news/detail/id/1042/t/Kubica-is-fast-but-Breen-is-faster-in-the-ERC)

I am not commenting on either of the drivers mentioned in the story, but they way the entire story has been made.

[Jarek Z]

There's been some talk here about ERC-website news being, well rather one-of-a-kind, but I have to say this one is completely absurd... :D

Kubica is fast but Breen is faster in the ERC - News - ERC European Rally Championship - Eurosport (http://www.fiaerc.com/news/detail/id/1042/t/Kubica-is-fast-but-Breen-is-faster-in-the-ERC)

I am not commenting on either of the drivers mentioned in the story, but they way the entire story has been made.

This really is idiotic. If they don't have a story to write about, they will make one up!
How did they count it anyway? Kubica won 16 stages in 3 rallies, Breen 17 in 5 events and Breen is faster???

At least they stopped calling Tlustak "ERC star" ;)

[dimviii]

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9803/c75w.jpghttp://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1503/krkc.jpg

[Mirek]

Onboard compilation of Freddy Loix:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKXj9I_aFHM&list=PLvU8NlBTh8tOdPSrBbvCh_t6J4Xa0_YxB&index=4

[GioRallyReport]

Two onboards in the Porsche Historic:

Fredericq Delplace en Dominique Callens hebben meer dan het vuur aan de schenen gelegd van Bernard Munster. - Rally and Races (http://www.rallyandraces.com/nieuws/5614-fredericq-delplace-en-dominique-callens-hebben-meer-dan-het-vuur-aan-de-schenen-gelegd-van-bernard-munster)

[tommeke_B]

Hayden Paddon ERC Ypres Rally Onboard 2013 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENN0QbhuMoI&feature=youtu.be) - Great onboard from Paddon! Only the intercom is lacking, that would have made it absolutely perfect.

[tommeke_B]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiETHtIBI7o&feature=c4-overview&list=UUrVg9pmXhdY8R6RKX0W05Qg

On board De Cecco-Humblet 208R2 Geko Ypres Rally 2013 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyRE4ciq26k&feature=player_embedded) Some onboards with De Cecco - 208 R2. :)

[Plhus]

My pictures...

ŠKODA rally club / Geko Ypres Rally 2013 (Ieper, B) (http://www.src.czechrallyeweb.net/pages/ypres2013.htm)