Sata Rally Açores 2012

[RICARDO75]

It's raining and fog on SS9

[RICARDO75]

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photos from Bruno Magalhães car

[tolis]

Tamrazov

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/401414_335218553186569_186850551356704_923507_9188 38571_n.jpg

[RICARDO75]

Tamrazov

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/401414_335218553186569_186850551356704_923507_9188 38571_n.jpg

... and Al Ketbi in front with broken suspension

[Luis Pacheco]

The weather prediction for tomorrow is worse.

[PLuto]

From Juho it was not only spin, it was serious crash and he is very lucky that he can continue... (video here (http://forum.autosport.cz/viewtopic.php?f=51&p=59444#p59444))

[Francis44]

Magalhães crash at 1:20, you can only see the car rolling....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBfsk0vfNl4 .

[tolis]

Highlights now on Eurosport: Eurosport em directo no Tvdez.com - ESTADIOFUTEBOL.COM (http://www.tvdez.com/eurosport)

[PLuto]

Start list into third leg - Sata Rallye Açores 2012 - Start order - leg 3 - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge (http://irc-results.com/2012/sata-rallye-acores-2012/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=178)

[uranium]

From Juho it was not only spin, it was serious crash and he is very lucky that he can continue... (video here (http://forum.autosport.cz/viewtopic.php?f=51&p=59444#p59444))

http://www.ircseries.com/videogallery/detail/id_event/31/id/149
Same but view from the car

[tolis]

Day 1 highlights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oktTR81Erik

[6789]

From Juho it was not only spin, it was serious crash and he is very lucky that he can continue... (video here (http://forum.autosport.cz/viewtopic.php?f=51&p=59444#p59444))
Its only a small spin when you can keep driving i guess :)

I'm really liking the pace from Andreas, under two hours until the start of the final day.

[Luis Pacheco]

Clear skies in Ponta Delgada this morning.

[RS]

Hanninen spins on SS5 in Portugal - Video Gallery - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.ircseries.com/videogallery/detail/id_event/31/id/149)
Same but view from the car

Great driving up until that point though on very narrow and muddy roads!

I love watching onboards from the Fabia, it is such a well sorted car in every respect.

[Adler]

nobody mentioned the 2wd-leading saxo so far.....Paulo Maciel, 13th overall, leading the 2wd-class by over 2 minutes! Does anybody know some history of this guy, or is he maybe still a young gun?

btw: Juho was really lucky, but lost about 20 secs, i think Mikkelsen will make it.
good performance by Sepp Wiegand so far at this very difficult conditions, saw him once in N2-Swift last year, very impressive, i think he can make his way!

[Mirek]

Was a new youtube Škoda Motorsport channel mentioned in this thread? http://www.youtube.com/user/motorsportskoda

There is for example one full stage onboard of Juho.

[Hartusvuori]

Looks like Andreas is in total control of this one and Juho is not able to answer to him in terms of speed. I hope they both make it to the finish.

[Barreis]

Seems that Hanninen is for retirement after this kid beat him.

[darkstar]

Was a new youtube Škoda Motorsport channel mentioned in this thread? http://www.youtube.com/user/motorsportskoda

There is for example one full stage onboard of Juho.

no it wasnt! thanks mirek!

[Gard]

Seems that Hanninen is for retirement after this kid beat him.
Juho is still a top class driver, and will for many years if he wants to. You can't retire just because a younger driver is faster. He'll just have to work more on his skills and fysical training.

[Gard]

Juho is also probably told not to take big risks trying to catch Andreas. He'll settle for second, but will push enough to be there if Andreas makes any mistakes. So we'll probably se that the others gets closer.

[Mirek]

From Juhos comment it looks like Škoda decided to freeze the fight of the top duo like they did last year. Just the drivers are swapped.

[tolis]

Live now SSS: RTP Açores (http://tv.azoresglobal.com/rtpa/)

[dimviii]

Live now SSS: RTP Açores (http://tv.azoresglobal.com/rtpa/)

can you see it Tolis? ''server not found'' for me

[tolis]

Yes, I can see it. Another link is RTP Açores em directo no Tvdez.com - ESTADIOFUTEBOL.COM (http://www.tvdez.com/rtpacores)

[dimviii]

Yes, I can see it. Another link is RTP Açores em directo no Tvdez.com - ESTADIOFUTEBOL.COM (http://www.tvdez.com/rtpacores)

server not found again.Thanks anyway mate!

[jolle1982]

the best is the young sepp wiegand. his first irc round and faster than gassner. go sepp go!!! ;-)

[mousti]

nobody mentioned the 2wd-leading saxo so far.....Paulo Maciel, 13th overall, leading the 2wd-class by over 2 minutes! Does anybody know some history of this guy, or is he maybe still a young gun?

btw: Juho was really lucky, but lost about 20 secs, i think Mikkelsen will make it.
good performance by Sepp Wiegand so far at this very difficult conditions, saw him once in N2-Swift last year, very impressive, i think he can make his way!
Last year he was in top and won also the 2WD ..

[Mirek]

the best is the young sepp wiegand. his first irc round and faster than gassner. go sepp go!!! ;-)

The young Sepp (it sounds almost like Seb :D ) quickly become the fastest German rallydriver. Really good achievement in just two S2000 outings. Let's see how much his progress can continue.

[RS]

One stage to go! Pretty convincing performance by Andreas here. Not massive gaps but almost every stage a couple of seconds quicker than Juho. I kind of expected that given his rate of progress throughout last year.

[RS]

The young Sepp (it sounds almost like Seb :D ) quickly become the fastest German rallydriver. Really good achievement in just two S2000 outings. Let's see how much his progress can continue.

Indeed. Maybe VW really did see something beyond just the flag by the side of his name.

Anyway, he is in the perfect place to develop as a driver now. Will be interesting to watch.

[tolis]

Congratulations Andreas-Ola!!!!
Once more Hanninen made a mistake... :(

[RS]

Congratulations Andreas-Ola!!!!
Once more Hanninen made a mistake... :(

Even if you discount the spin from yesterday, Andreas was faster here.

Congratulations to Andreas who became the first driver in IRC history to win three rounds in a row!

[Sulland]

Congrat to Mikkelsen and Fløene !!Great start in the defence season !

[Mirek]

Even if you discount the spin from yesterday, Andreas was faster here.

Congratulations to Andreas who became the first driver in IRC history to win three rounds in a row!

I think that from Andreas and Ola it's the best answer to those who complained that his title was not deserved last year. I have always been a big fan of Juho but I must admit that Andreas is getting faster than him on more and more events.

[wwbroe]

Also my congratulations to Andreas with a great win in this difficult rally. Hanninen never seemed to be equally fast and had to setlle for second. Good performance by Wiegand who finishes fourth in his first IRC event. :)

[jolle1982]

Indeed. Maybe VW really did see something beyond just the flag by the side of his name.

Anyway, he is in the perfect place to develop as a driver now. Will be interesting to watch.


Sepp is factory driver for VW!!! Skoda Germany is VW Junior Team!!! ;-) its the second rally in an s2000 and the second rally on gravel. fantastic.

[RS]

I think that from Andreas and Ola it's the best answer to those who complained that his title was not deserved last year. I have always been a big fan of Juho but I must admit that Andreas is getting faster than him on more and more events.

I expect a repeat performance on Canarias against Kopecky, unless Basso turns up!

If neither works Skoda driver will do all events then Andreas is hot favourite for the title but I hope some drivers will turn up to challenge him on individual events.

[focus206]

Congratulations to Andreas, great work ;)

[Hartusvuori]

Congrats to Andreas and Ola! They really dominated this competition. Juho needs to speed up now and I hope will. Andreas however is now all the time showing very good results.

[PLuto]

I am afraid that after Juho's high speed spin team freezed the order... You can hear from Juho's voices that he is not enjoying the event so much...

[Francis44]

Congrats to Andreas and Ola. He is shapping up to be a real threat in WRC competition. Next year VW should have him in a car outside the official team so he understands the new car, and maybe after bring him aboard the official team.

[PLuto]

Peugeot lost manufacturer points on last stage, because Mota and Antunes retired... Points after first round - Autosport : Intercontinental Rally Challenge (http://www.autosport.cz/souteze/bodovani.php?id=64)

[RS]

I am afraid that after Juho's high speed spin team freezed the order... You can hear from Juho's voices that he is not enjoying the event so much...

He was already falling behind though. IMO it is quite a sensible decision to freeze the positions when you have a 1-2 in the bag. It is better than team orders before the start of the event a la Ford WRC.

The real cure to this of course is to have some drivers fighting at the front with different brands and then the Skoda boys could not afford to slow down. So come on Loix, Basso, Flodin; get those Fiestas to IRC!

[RS]

There are some great videos of the official IRC website now. Looks like they are making a much bigger effort with this than previous years.

Event Videos' Gallery - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.ircseries.com/videogallery/list/id/31)

"IRC ACORES AERIAL VIEWS LANDSCAPE DAY 2" shows the scenery off pretty well!

[Iskald]

Congrats to Andreas and Ola. He is shapping up to be a real threat in WRC competition. Next year VW should have him in a car outside the official team so he understands the new car, and maybe after bring him aboard the official team.

He is already an official VW driver...

[Mirek]

Soke onboards are crazy...
IRC ACORES OBC HANNINEN DAY 2 SS9 - Video Gallery - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.ircseries.com/videogallery/detail/id_event/31/id/162)
Behind the wheel with Mikkelsen - Video Gallery - IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge - Eurosport (http://www.ircseries.com/videogallery/detail/id_event/31/id/152)

[Plan9]

Congrats to Andreas and Ola. He is shapping up to be a real threat in WRC competition. Next year VW should have him in a car outside the official team so he understands the new car, and maybe after bring him aboard the official team.

I don't think he would find it any more difficult to get the second seat next to Ogier really. What's up Juho? Don't you want to be in the WRC?

[Ucci]

I think that from Andreas and Ola it's the best answer to those who complained that his title was not deserved last year. I have always been a big fan of Juho but I must admit that Andreas is getting faster than him on more and more events.

100% agree with Mirek !

[uranium]

He was already falling behind though.
No, just take a look hove much did Juho lost due to that spin, but came to finish only 10.4 after Mikkelsen.
If it was not that spin, Juho could be easily first. But we have, what we have. I hope eventually Juno will will IRC once more and move to WRC.

[Mirek]

No, just take a look hove much did Juho lost due to that spin, but came to finish only 10.4 after Mikkelsen.
If it was not that spin, Juho could be easily first. But we have, what we have. I hope eventually Juno will will IRC once more and move to WRC.

If, if, if... What about use it like this: "If he didn't push that hard he would have no accident". Another way to use it for same situation with different result... I really don't like the way of thinking that we remove time lost in accident (by the way it is cca 20 seconds not more). It's not so simple. Clear fact is that Andreas was faster in Azores (SS wins 10:3) and made no mistake.

[Hartusvuori]

If, if, if... What about use it like this: "If he didn't push that hard he would have no accident". Another way to use it for same situation with different result... I really don't like the way of thinking that we remove time lost in accident (by the way it is cca 20 seconds not more). It's not so simple. Clear fact is that Andreas was faster in Azores (SS wins 10:3) and made no mistake.

Mirek, you've got to give people a chance to go "what if..." That's the beauty of sports. It can be annoying, but it's also fuel for the passion. But the fact remains, Andreas was faster throughout the rally.

[SubaruNorway]

No, just take a look hove much did Juho lost due to that spin, but came to finish only 10.4 after Mikkelsen.
If it was not that spin, Juho could be easily first. But we have, what we have. I hope eventually Juno will will IRC once more and move to WRC.

He would still be 15 sec behind overall if he lost 10sec on that one stage, so where is your logic?
Who is this Tamrazov **** wit btw? My GF was photographer for his "Dream Team" and had to leave on short notice cos he was slow organizing it and now he doesn't pay for her tickets home so now she has lots of problems!

[uranium]

He would still be 15 sec behind overall if he lost 10sec on that one stage, so where is your logic?
I think, there were much more than 10sec lost. Logic is simple. If you are 5 sec ahead - you fight. If you 15 sec behind, you start thinking about keeping the 2nd place or try keep to win with possibility to loose everything.

Just saw the video once more, he lost at least 18-20 seconds.

[uranium]

Who is this Tamrazov **** wit btw? My GF was photographer for his "Dream Team" and had to leave on short notice cos he was slow organizing it and now he doesn't pay for her tickets home so now she has lots of problems!

What is the problem with him? What does it mean "My GF was photographer for his "Dream Team"" ? Where did she from? Problems with contract? Or what?

[SubaruNorway]

What is the problem with him? What does it mean "My GF was photographer for his "Dream Team"" ? Where did she from? Problems with contract? Or what?

Problem he's just generally being an ass. My girlfriend was trying to work for them. Seems to be sorted now but she will be a day late home.

Even the eurosport commentator made a joke about their team name :D

[tolis]

Rally Review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWHzz1l5d80

[Luis Pacheco]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FwzEUFQvF30

[liposh]

I remember there was some competition for longest jump during those "Grupo Marques" stages. Does anybody know the final results?

[tolis]

Tamrazov won one for sure, 24 metres!

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/401123_184691124966704_184229831679500_210575_1430 464776_n.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I've been following Mikklesen's progress for about 6 years since I heard Marcus Gronholm was helping him. Its great to see that he has now added consistency to the undoubted speed he always had. If he continues like this he should take another IRC title and be ready for the WRC as a future champion.

Well done Andreas (and Marcus).

[dimviii]

Magalhaes crash
IRC 2012 Portugal_Day_2_Magalhaes_Rolls_ - Vidéo Dailymotion (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xp28wp_irc-2012-portugal-day-2-magalhaes-rolls_auto)

[RS]

No one said much about Bryan Bouffier... I think he did an almost perfect job here. He didn't stand a hope in hell of beating Hanninen and Mikkelsen on gravel with an old Peugeot so 3rd was the maximum possible result. He was also very competitive against Magalhaes who has superior local knowledge.

I hope that will help Bryan get the funds for some more events - preferably in a 2012 evo 207!

[Mirek]

For Bryan it was also first gravel rally since 2011 Acores!

[Hartusvuori]

For Bryan it was also first gravel rally since 2011 Acores!

You forgot Scotland where he finished similarly third behind Andreas and Juho.

eWRC-results.com - results RACMSA Rally of Scotland 2011 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/final.php?e=2654&t=RACMSA-Rally-of-Scotland-2011)

[Mirek]

Yes, You are right.

[Luis Pacheco]

During the event there was an exposition with scale models near the HQ of the rallye.

Two of the dioramas were bought by Mikkelsen. :)


https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/409491_353709677994830_100000674022885_1033711_485 691878_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429172_353709451328186_100000674022885_1033707_176 3489399_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/405908_353709511328180_100000674022885_1033708_133 4310722_n.jpg




https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/428302_353709957994802_100000674022885_1033716_167 3266122_n.jpg

[liposh]

The second diorama is inaccurate. I don´t see any cows :D

[Luis Pacheco]

The second diorama is inaccurate. I don´t see any cows :D
:)

[rallyfiend]

:)

I thought the second dioroma was inaccurate because it seemed to show a Eurosport camera filming a car with sponsorship from a non-paying tyre supplier!

[RS]

I thought the second dioroma was inaccurate because it seemed to show a Eurosport camera filming a car with sponsorship from a non-paying tyre supplier!

Don't understand. They have shown Mikkelsen and Gardemeister in the past.

[mousti]

Tyre supplier who's not entered is filmed but the logo is not being seen on results chart.

Eurosport even sponsored Mikkelsen in the Fiesta.

[uranium]

He didn't stand a hope in hell of beating Hanninen and Mikkelsen on gravel with an old Peugeot so 3rd was the maximum possible result.

Just curious, what is wrong with the Peugeout? Lesser power or torque? Where is so big gap in compare to Skoda?
For me it looks like a way to find excuse - our car is too old.

[dimviii]

Just curious, what is wrong with the Peugeout? Lesser power or torque? Where is so big gap in compare to Skoda?
For me it looks like a way to find excuse - our car is too old.
Skoda seems to be more serious about s2000.Big gap at drivers too.

[RS]

Just curious, what is wrong with the Peugeout? Lesser power or torque? Where is so big gap in compare to Skoda?
For me it looks like a way to find excuse - our car is too old.

Well I am sure Mirek will give a more accurate answer, however for starters the Delta cars are not the latest evo compared to the factory Fabias of Hanninen and Mikkelsen and the Fabia always seems to have had a traction advantage on gravel compared to the 207.

You could see on the onboards from Azores that driving the Peugeots just seemed 'hardwork' in comparison.

The Skoda really has incredible exit speeds from the slow corners, even on this muddy service. I think the Skoda must have a big lowdown torque advantage.

[Mirek]

It's complex problem. For sure here the main difference is that those private cars can hardly match the works ones. That's pure fact. Also Andreas and Juho are faster drivers on gravel than Bryand and Bruno, that's second point. And the third is that Škoda usually has had an upper hand over Peugeot on loose and rough surface - that was already mentioned and I agree that it's mostly about traction and suspension.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

The cars from Delta Rally were from Peugeot Portugal last year... so, it was the "same" car for Bruno...

[RICARDO75]

]The cars from Delta Rally were from Peugeot Portugal last year... so, it was the "same" car for Bruno...

You'r wrong

[tolis]

Inside IRC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ0O4_Kajho

[Francis44]

]The cars from Delta Rally were from Peugeot Portugal last year... so, it was the "same" car for Bruno...

The cars were sold to Delta Rally but the ones used in Açores were different units, in fact Bruno's was 2009 spec and Bryan's 2010 spec.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

The cars were sold to Delta Rally but the ones used in Açores were different units, in fact Bruno's was 2009 spec and Bryan's 2010 spec.
ok...

so... what was the target of Bruno running with such a "old" car... :confused:

[Francis44]

]ok...

so... what was the target of Bruno running with such a "old" car... :confused:

That was perhaps just due to budget, if you pay more you get better car, simple as that.

[tolis]

Nice shot by A.Lavadinho

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/39cd5fa94b7699516b0487b8cc4a5715.jpg

[PLuto]

If you wants, here is more photos by Andre: Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=13425)

[omer yetis]

hi guys

I am an expat in china and no chance to watch youtube or TV programs. any chance to have some links to download these eurosport footages?

thanks
rgds
Omer

[A FONDO]

Have you tried torrents?

[uranium]

I am an expat in china and no chance to watch youtube or TV programs. any chance to have some links to download these eurosport footages?

you can try to use torrents

[wildboar]

youtube has it all. there are more than one user who upload the whole programs.

[uranium]

youtube has it all. there are more than one user who upload the whole programs.

"in china and no chance to watch youtube"

[wildboar]

"in china and no chance to watch youtube"

Oops, didn't read it careful enough. Then the f1zone forum is your friend. You have to register, but then you have access to the "Motorsport videos" subforum. There you can find it all.

[RICARDO75]

Juho Hänninen onboard - SS4 Feteiras


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=y3hinZR1BtA

[RICARDO75]

Juho Hänninen onboard - SS12 Grupo Marques


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpfAdQ-MynU&list=UUlUfsEYaMFuaqKRIZ5RZqwA&index=3&feature=plcp

[RICARDO75]

Juho Hänninen onboard - SS14 Tronqueira


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkt1QNrsiM8&feature=related

[PLuto]

Nicola Arena's Diary from Sata Rallye Acores - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=13436)

[omer yetis]

Oops, didn't read it careful enough. Then the f1zone forum is your friend. You have to register, but then you have access to the "Motorsport videos" subforum. There you can find it all.

thank you very much for the lead..
I will try to register and see how it goes..

tks

[Luis Pacheco]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52RR3vQo_kI&feature=player_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf5seUtbNf8&feature=player_embedded