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Jarek Z
25th June 2011, 14:19
Betti was out of the road, but it seems he somehow managed to finish the stage losing over 11 minutes.

r199
25th June 2011, 14:22
tsjoen in trobles?? time ok thogh

PLuto
25th June 2011, 14:26
Some photos from Ypres - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=12430)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/035deed3fc7f07b976be085f433f140c.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/ddc72aab2ec6e5731042b459711fbe6d.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/48b97fe5b65a74a13881549db5b4daba.jpg

r199
25th June 2011, 14:26
Tjsoen, damage happend on roadsection

Tom206wrc
25th June 2011, 14:28
Broken radiator for Tsjoen on the short SS11 ???? :eek:

[Madeira-Rally]
25th June 2011, 14:28
Tsojen rich the end of the stage with a broken radiator... I think he will retire...

Tom206wrc
25th June 2011, 14:29
Tjsoen, damage happend on roadsection



What happened ??? Road accident ??? :confused:

r199
25th June 2011, 14:32
stoped to check tirepressure, drove of but forgot there whas a small pole or something infront of the car

logic
25th June 2011, 14:33
He was checking his tire pressures not noticing there was a bollard in front of the car and moved off and hit the bollard damaging the radiator.

Tom206wrc
25th June 2011, 14:35
:mark:

r199
25th June 2011, 14:44
Tjoen Out, broken radiator


Damm That makes Hans Weijs jr 3rd Nice drive of him

Tom206wrc
25th June 2011, 14:51
Bouffier has his time before Tsjoen on SS12, to me it means Pieter retired(or has more problems) :(

r199
25th June 2011, 14:53
@ tom, Pieter is exit, could not fix the problem

RICARDO75
25th June 2011, 14:57
SS9 times are corrected.
It was missing 1 minute on Lagenakes and Martin

Mirek
25th June 2011, 14:57
Tjoen Out, broken radiator

This is one of the most stupid cases of lost podium ever :(

Mirek
25th June 2011, 14:59
Damm That makes Hans Weijs jr 3rd Nice drive of him

Will be a big fight with Casier and Snijers but anyway great performance in his first S2000 start.

Also Solowow is doing really good!

focus206
25th June 2011, 15:03
Too bad for Tsjoen, and now Casier and Weijs Jr will fight for the 3rd place...
Impressive drive for the two Dutch ex-JWRC drivers, Abbring and Weijs Jr... I knew they were good, but not so much good! :D

Tom206wrc
25th June 2011, 15:08
I knew it was mistakes times of Langenakens and Martin...it has been corrected on SS9 ;)

Tom206wrc
25th June 2011, 15:18
Cherain on SS12 :confused:

Edit: OK he's there, but appeared after Princen...

focus206
25th June 2011, 16:34
Anyone knows the reason of the retirement of Harry Hunt?

Josti
25th June 2011, 17:42
Casier problems moves Weijs up to 3rd. Great stage time by him anyway.

Tom206wrc
25th June 2011, 17:43
No power steering for Casier on SS14 and he must drive like this on the two other stages :s

Tom206wrc
25th June 2011, 17:49
Oh no !!! No Abbring ???? :mad:


Edit: lost 6 minutes :(

hari
25th June 2011, 17:49
Punctures for Mikkelsen and Kruuda

Mirek
25th June 2011, 17:52
Casier retired :(

Alternator...

Josti
25th June 2011, 17:55
Major time loss for Abbring. Real shame.

Tom206wrc
25th June 2011, 17:57
Puncture, off, or mechanical for Abbring :confused:

r199
25th June 2011, 18:00
off for Abbring

Tom206wrc
25th June 2011, 18:07
I don't understand Mikkelsen: "we are not in the fight, we are still learning the roads"...best time SS15 with 6" over Loix :confused:

focus206
25th June 2011, 18:10
Nooooo Abbring :( he clearly deserved the win in the 2WD class...

Mirek
25th June 2011, 18:10
Mikklesen is out of classification so what more can he do? Besides that Loix has almost two minutes lead and no need to push...

Any info what happened to Snijers now?

Bartek
25th June 2011, 18:14
What a time for P-G.... :p

hari
25th June 2011, 18:29
Mikklesen is out of classification so what more can he do? Besides that Loix has almost two minutes lead and no need to push...

Any info what happened to Snijers now?

Snijers went off just before the flying finish and was pushed back by spectators.

hari
25th June 2011, 18:40
Puncture again for Wilks

Tom206wrc
25th June 2011, 18:45
Puncture again for Wilks :mad:

Tom206wrc
25th June 2011, 18:50
Kruuda puncture too but lost less time than Wilks :mark:

Tom206wrc
25th June 2011, 19:01
Chérain ??? :confused:

Tom206wrc
25th June 2011, 19:04
Maurin ???? :confused:

pettersolberg29
25th June 2011, 19:16
Mikkelsen showing what could have been if only he wasn't so eager on SS1! If him and Neuville can eradicate these stupid mistakes then they could dominate the IRC for the next few years, although Loix isnt giving up without a fight. Briiliantly 'easy' performance by him so far. Wilks very unlucky with punctures after a great and calm drive to 2nd, but his pace may not have kept up with Kopecky, Neuville and Mikkelsen if they had lasted more than a stage! Hans Weijs doing great so far (hope for no jinx) and Bouffier solid if unspectacular.
Looking forward to Barum to see all of them plus Hanninen challenge with hopefully less incidents

Tom206wrc
25th June 2011, 19:21
Looks like de Mévius Jr crashed too :(

Mirek
25th June 2011, 19:35
Mikkelsen showing what could have been if only he wasn't so eager on SS1! If him and Neuville can eradicate these stupid mistakes then they could dominate the IRC for the next few years, although Loix isnt giving up without a fight.

In the morning when the top guys were pushing he wasn't dominant at all. Now they are on cruise mode, so...

I really like Mikkelsen but so far he showed very little consistency. Every rally the same story, raw speed is there but tons of mistakes ruin the result.

RS
25th June 2011, 19:45
Both Mikkelsen and Neuville are very young and both very talented but I think Mikkelsen's lack of a win yet shows how tough this series is and how good it is for teaching young drivers how to drive and to help them develop.

Young drivers who are very fast but make mistakes is natural, and better than ones who are reliable but slow. The only way to learn the limits is to push them.

I think Andreas will be one of the favourites for the win on Azores. I think he is possibly slightly faster than Juho on gravel (but not on asphalt)

pettersolberg29
25th June 2011, 19:55
In the morning when the top guys were pushing he wasn't dominant at all. Now they are on cruise mode, so...

I really like Mikkelsen but so far he showed very little consistency. Every rally the same story, raw speed is there but tons of mistakes ruin the result.

This morning though, Andreas wasnt pushing either. He said while it was wet he was just keeping it on the road - it was the plan before the stages had even started. Obviously he isnt as fast as Loix if he was pushing still, but its still encouraging bearing in mind Mikkelsen wont be motivated to go 100% either. I agree r.e. consistency though, but as RS says below, you can learn consistency but you cant learn speed. Neuville and Mikkelsen have the speed and only need the consistency now before they can be top quality.

RS
25th June 2011, 20:49
Looks like Wilks should get 5th. Good fightback for him.

Andersson could also grab the final drivers point spot.

rage82
25th June 2011, 21:08
Congratulations for fast Fredy! With his 7-th victory he equal Hanninen as the most successful driver in iRC series.
Very good result for Weis jr. of course, and verry happy also for Garde he put some good results in Ypres.

r199
25th June 2011, 21:11
good win from fast freddy, but a realy good and nice ride uuh Super ride from Hans Weijs Jr

[Madeira-Rally]
25th June 2011, 21:24
PG finished SS18 and the final stage, losing over 5 mins after hitting something at the start of the stage. 15th now.

Mirek
25th June 2011, 21:25
Andersson could also grab the final drivers point spot.

Went off and lost 5 minutes instead...

Tom206wrc
25th June 2011, 21:29
Melissa 13th overall but she didn't chose the "easiest" rally to rediscover an S2000(after 2009 Condroz) :mark:

pettersolberg29
25th June 2011, 21:32
Brilliant performance by Robbie Barrable too - without his incident yesterday he'd have finished right in the battle for 5th. Brilliant for someone who has never rallied abroad before (as far as I know) and is basically unknown out of Ireland and GB. Hopefully he'll get more chance now.

Mirek
25th June 2011, 21:34
Melissa 13th overall but she didn't chose the "easiest" rally to rediscover an S2000(after 2009 Condroz) :mark:

She used S2000 here because WRC isn't allowed in Ypres. That's the only reason.

dimviii
25th June 2011, 21:35
Congrats to Fast Freddie for a perfect rally.
Protons again back steps.
Megane clearly slower than ds3s,and way slower from N4 evo X(wet and dry)

Mirek
25th June 2011, 21:36
Some photos of PG and Gonon off today: www.AutoSport.CZ • Zobrazit téma - GEKO Ypres Rally [ME, IRC] (http://forum.autosport.cz/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=613&start=200#p51451)

By the way historic standings:

1. Droogmans
2. Chambon
3. Janota (1st ERC - yesss :) )
4. Duez
5. Brazzoli (2nd ERC)
6. Graham (3rd ERC)
7. Siddall
8. Smith
9. Dujardyn
10. Cunningham (4th ERC)

focus206
25th June 2011, 23:41
So congratulations to Loix, fast and clean run, important win for him. :)
Great times for Weijs Jr too, hope he finds some sponsors. In 2WD results, pity for Cherain, De Mevius and expecially Abbring, they were doing a great rally :(
Is Kris Princen planning to do more IRC starts with the Megane or he will do only national events?

Wim_Impreza
26th June 2011, 09:14
Melissa 13th overall but she didn't chose the "easiest" rally to rediscover an S2000(after 2009 Condroz) :mark:

She did one Belgian regional rally earlier this month with that car.

Wim_Impreza
26th June 2011, 09:17
So congratulations to Loix, fast and clean run, important win for him. :)
Great times for Weijs Jr too, hope he finds some sponsors. In 2WD results, pity for Cherain, De Mevius and expecially Abbring, they were doing a great rally :(
Is Kris Princen planning to do more IRC starts with the Megane or he will do only national events?

This start for Princen was supported by Renault, without that he wasn't at the start of this rally. Before this rally, Princen said that he isn't sure that a Mégane is faster than a Clio R3. His Clio R3 is for sure more reliable. Princen wants to win the French Clio R3 Trophy and he hasn't budget to do Belgian rallies with the Clio R3 too, so he hasn't budget for foreign IRC rallies.

Mirek
26th June 2011, 12:15
Great video! YouTube - ‪Geko Ypres Rally 2011 - Highlights [HD] by JM‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLnW3vGsOac)

rallysupportnl
26th June 2011, 13:48
IRC / Ypres Rally 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQl4_DeX_Uo

Kurt L.
26th June 2011, 13:52
Some of my photos

https://picasaweb.google.com/100842182525832136667/GEKOYpresRally2011?authkey=Gv1sRgCNXvwsan_JK5Hg&feat=directlink

focus206
26th June 2011, 14:01
Some of my photos

https://picasaweb.google.com/100842182525832136667/GEKOYpresRally2011?authkey=Gv1sRgCNXvwsan_JK5Hg&feat=directlink

Great photos, thank you! :)

logic
26th June 2011, 15:15
Drive of the weekend for me goes to Hans Weijs .

Mirek
26th June 2011, 15:16
Ditches :D
YouTube - ‪IRC Ypres Rally 2011 Crashes‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daVHu3rAvrs)

Spin Rossetti, off PG and Gonon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKCv_fAeFoE

rallymen123
26th June 2011, 15:43
My photos are online on www.bvrallypics.be (http://www.bvrallypics.be)

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/GekoYpresRally2011Vrijdag236_1.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/GekoYpresRally2011215_1.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/GekoYpresRally2011Vrijdag482_1.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/GekoYpresRally2011044_1.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/GekoYpresRally2011Vrijdag533_1.jpg

RICARDO75
26th June 2011, 16:57
http://youtu.be/4QPHKDv7wss

Allyc85
26th June 2011, 19:09
I just got back from what was an amazing first visit to Ypres and when im a bit more awake, il add a few pictures etc!

But if anyone has any oubts about going to this rally..... just do it!!

bluuford
26th June 2011, 19:18
What happened to Martin Kangur with the Civic in SS8? He lost so much time :\

It was interesting story. He went straight in one junction. Then he turned around and let one S2000 car to pass him (He didnt mention the name). About 700 meters later the same S2000 made a mistake and was blocking the road. To avoid the collision Kangur tried to pass the car from the side of the road but got stuck and spent next 10-11 minutes there.

HaCo
26th June 2011, 19:26
It was interesting story. He went straight in one junction. Then he turned around and let one S2000 car to pass him (He didnt mention the name). About 700 meters later the same S2000 made a mistake and was blocking the road. To avoid the collision Kangur tried to pass the car from the side of the road but got stuck and spent next 10-11 minutes there.

What a shame, I enjoyed his passes in the Civic R3!

Incredable how many things happend on the stages when I read the forum. Every stage someone did something stupid.

Honnestly I did not find this the best Ypres ever on the stages.

vino_93
26th June 2011, 19:29
I'm looking for the times of the GT cars ... where can I find it ?

Dragu
26th June 2011, 19:35
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/7697/60715487.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/60715487.jpg/)

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/2303/70788136.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/580/70788136.jpg/)

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2212/61583872.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/11/61583872.jpg/)

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5907/21930288.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/38/21930288.jpg/)

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9370/66978050.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/66978050.jpg/)

more pics online : Jo Pijpops Rallyfoto's • Ypres Rally 2011 (http://www.jp-rallyfotos.be/fotoreportage/72157627032492934)

www.jp-rallyfotos.be (http://www.jp-rallyfotos.be)

RICARDO75
26th June 2011, 19:50
Jasper van der Heuvel with diferent times here (http://irc-results.com/2011/irc/ypres/18irc.php) (2h49m44,4s) and here (http://static.ypresrally.com/bywr2011.html#) (2h52m,51,7s)

focus206
26th June 2011, 20:08
It was interesting story. He went straight in one junction. Then he turned around and let one S2000 car to pass him (He didnt mention the name). About 700 meters later the same S2000 made a mistake and was blocking the road. To avoid the collision Kangur tried to pass the car from the side of the road but got stuck and spent next 10-11 minutes there.

Damn, Kangur is quite an unlucky guy, he was making good times :(

OldF
26th June 2011, 20:57
YouTube - ‪Ypres Rally 2011‬‏ (http://youtu.be/4QPHKDv7wss)

It can be clearly seen that the S2000 don’t have a central differential at about 5:50 when Bouffier made a spin. The car doesn’t turn so smoothly.

r199
26th June 2011, 21:25
RICARDO75, I also dont understand it about vd Heuvels time but think he whas 12.

And when whe are talking about vd Heuvel: Martine, thanks for everything u
showed us on the stage's whit Jasper. Shame that u stop as a codriver, but
i can understand the desision.

Barreis
26th June 2011, 21:28
I like all the photos.

mousti
26th June 2011, 21:55
Olivier Ural did a stupid fail on our TC at Hollebeke to give his Timecheckpaper or how u call it in english 10 seconds too early and then sign the other paper that he's agreeing with the check in time. Afterwards that we said that both were yelling they didn't check in too early.. A bit understandable but it's a waste of energy to do that..

Mirek
26th June 2011, 21:56
RICARDO75, I also dont understand it about vd Heuvels time but think he whas 12.

I asked boys to have a look on that. There was some time changed to Jasper during the rally, so maybe it comes from that (maybe some notional time, I don't know).


And when whe are talking about vd Heuvel: Martine, thanks for everything u
showed us on the stage's whit Jasper. Shame that u stop as a codriver, but
i can understand the desision.

Is it really that bad? :(


By the way Hans Weijs was awarded by Colin McRae Flat Out Trophy: IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge (http://rally-irc.com/html/readnews.asp?id=2802)

mousti
26th June 2011, 22:21
I asked boys to have a look on that. There was some time changed to Jasper during the rally, so maybe it comes from that (maybe some notional time, I don't know).



Is it really that bad? :(


By the way Hans Weijs was awarded by Colin McRae Flat Out Trophy: IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge (http://rally-irc.com/html/readnews.asp?id=2802)
I think 2 days against such competition was probably phisically and mentally too hard I think :( for her. Respect for her decision she was a great co pilot and great to see man and wife working so good together!

I wished yesterday he would win it! And did it and deserved this a lot! Finally getting some recognition I hope..

MK2 BDG
26th June 2011, 23:46
Anyone knows the reason of the retirement of Harry Hunt?

Last i heard, gearbox Hyd oil pressure ??

If anyone has any pictures of our Fiesta R2 no 105 with the yellow helicopter on the side, that would be good :)
Went out at the end of SS10 engine !!

PLuto
27th June 2011, 00:14
I asked boys to have a look on that. There was some time changed to Jasper during the rally, so maybe it comes from that (maybe some notional time, I don't know).

They were changing some of his times and he also got a penalty...

mousti
27th June 2011, 10:01
Got a 2 min penalty friday I think for service or something else.

Pluto did u get the chance to talk with Bouffier about his Fia A status?

RS
27th June 2011, 10:18
By the way Hans Weijs was awarded by Colin McRae Flat Out Trophy: IRC Intercontinental Rally Challenge (http://rally-irc.com/html/readnews.asp?id=2802)

I predict some support from Skoda to start Barum :)

RICARDO75
27th June 2011, 10:19
RICARDO75, I also dont understand it about vd Heuvels time but think he whas 12.

Ok. He got two big penaltys. Beyond the 2 minute that was on IRC results, he had another one of 2m30, both for being late

Mirek
27th June 2011, 10:54
I predict some support from Skoda to start Barum :)

I don't expect anything.

mousti
27th June 2011, 11:04
I don't expect anything.
Same thing, he hasn't even contact with Skoda or Skoda NL it was all from sponsors of Belgian and Dutch rallyworld. I think Barum will be indeed important for Skoda, If Kopecky there retires I think they'll bring Hanninen back for the title and let them enter the rest of the events.

Mintexmemory
27th June 2011, 12:33
Rally Ypres 2011 - a set on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/74mex/sets/72157627057445714/)

First of my photos as a taster - 35mm shots should be up next week (Goodwood Festival means next w/e is fully occupied :D
What a great time I had, things we learnt:-
The Punto lacks performance to really be competitive any more.
Wilks has got the ability to get some podiums this year.
When Proton get their new engine, PG and Basso will be up near the top.
Hans Weijs Jr is as good as I've been saying - I'd really like to see him take on Tanak at Rally Germany in SWRC.
The Mini is getting better all the time.
Can anyone who was at the finish ceremony (or has been told) tell me why Van Der Heuval's co-driver Martine was crying during the interviews? (it was all Dutch to me)
Just working out the one top 10 prediction poster compared to mine.

Josti
27th June 2011, 13:48
Can anyone who was at the finish ceremony (or has been told) tell me why Van Der Heuval's co-driver Martine was crying during the interviews? (it was all Dutch to me)

She's quitting her codriving career. Very hard time for her recovering from the nasty accident they had in Germany last year. Naturally she's emotional.

Mintexmemory
27th June 2011, 13:57
She's quitting her codriving career. Very hard time for her recovering from the nasty accident they had in Germany last year. Naturally she's emotional.
Thanks very much.

RS
27th June 2011, 14:24
The Punto lacks performance to really be competitive any more.
Wilks has got the ability to get some podiums this year.
When Proton get their new engine, PG and Basso will be up near the top.
.

Didn't really expect more from the Punto here; if Madeira had stayed in IRC I think Rossetti would have been closer to the front there (and Sanremo, but he won't do that either)

Wilks has at least the ability for podiums and maybe wins. He surprised me on Ypres.

Are Proton planning a new version of the current engine or are you referring to a future 1.6T engine?

RICARDO75
27th June 2011, 14:25
VIDEOS
YouTube - ‪7th victory Freddy Loix BFO Skoda Fabia S2000 Ypres rally 2011‬‏ (http://youtu.be/in0r-PpFQ0c)
YouTube - ‪Geko Ypres Rally 2011 HD door www.rallydvd.nl‬‏ (http://youtu.be/ep4jRBRAXI4)
YouTube - ‪IRC Belgium Geko Ypres Rally 2011 [HD]‬‏ (http://youtu.be/mF1cV5Boorw)
YouTube - ‪geko ypres rally 25062011.mp4‬‏ (http://youtu.be/0VPn4Fv5vyM)

Mintexmemory
27th June 2011, 14:34
Didn't really expect more from the Punto here; if Madeira had stayed in IRC I think Rossetti would have been closer to the front there (and Sanremo, but he won't do that either)

Wilks has at least the ability for podiums and maybe wins. He surprised me on Ypres.

Are Proton planning a new version of the current engine or are you referring to a future 1.6T engine?

From what I gathered, speaking to one of the Proton Mechs on Saturday night, there is a new version of the current engine in development to improve the reliability and speed of the Neo S2000. Also, they seemed very happy with the performance of Basso and PG, when running!

[Madeira-Rally]
27th June 2011, 15:14
I don't understand how they can be happy with such a poor performance from their cars...
It's not because of the drivers that Proton don't get better results... it's only about the car... Proton was presented in 2009... now 2011 and I don't see major develepments in the car...

focus206
27th June 2011, 15:33
]I don't understand how they can be happy with such a poor performance from their cars...
It's not because of the drivers that Proton don't get better results... it's only about the car... Proton was presented in 2009... now 2011 and I don't see major develepments in the car...
To me it even got worse... in 2009 Wilks and Alister McRae showed something good with the Proton...

rallysupportnl
27th June 2011, 15:43
More pictures on our site! (http://www.rallysupport.nl/index.php?id=161/)

http://www.rallysupport.nl/fileadmin/template/main/afbeeldingen/2011/Ypres2011/Ypres2011IRC041.JPG

http://www.rallysupport.nl/fileadmin/template/main/afbeeldingen/2011/Ypres2011/Ypres2011IRC001b.JPG

http://www.rallysupport.nl/fileadmin/template/main/afbeeldingen/2011/Ypres2011/Ypres2011IRC022c.JPG

Mintexmemory
27th June 2011, 15:46
]I don't understand how they can be happy with such a poor performance from their cars...
It's not because of the drivers that Proton don't get better results... it's only about the car... Proton was presented in 2009... now 2011 and I don't see major develepments in the car...
Clearly they aren't!! That's why they are looking at a new engine - not an evo but a new design!

RS
27th June 2011, 16:55
To me it even got worse... in 2009 Wilks and Alister McRae showed something good with the Proton...

I don't think it actually got worse, only that the competition got better. Especially in the last 6 months the Peugeot made a big step.

For me the best performance we have seen of the Proton so far was Basso on Yalta, but then the engine went pop. I think with the current version of the engine if they turn it up too much it goes bang. IMO that is why they were slower but lasted the distance on Ypres (they turned the engine down)

The problem when you start behind is that you have to keep up with the development of the competition and make progress on top of that. That is not easy when you are competing against two full works teams.

mousti
27th June 2011, 17:50
I don't think it actually got worse, only that the competition got better. Especially in the last 6 months the Peugeot made a big step.

For me the best performance we have seen of the Proton so far was Basso on Yalta, but then the engine went pop. I think with the current version of the engine if they turn it up too much it goes bang. IMO that is why they were slower but lasted the distance on Ypres (they turned the engine down)

The problem when you start behind is that you have to keep up with the development of the competition and make progress on top of that. That is not easy when you are competing against two full works teams.
It was surprising that only Basso retired and that it was an off, because Basso retired early already in the shakedown because of a mechanical failure.

[Madeira-Rally]
27th June 2011, 18:26
Basso broke the engine in the shakedown... they changed the engine to the previous evolution of the engine (the one they used in Canarias..) that's why Basso was always saying that he had not enough power in the engine (during the rally)

Mirek
27th June 2011, 19:34
]Basso broke the engine in the shakedown... they changed the engine to the previous evolution of the engine (the one they used in Canarias..) that's why Basso was always saying that he had not enough power in the engine (during the rally)

I don't think so. Shakedown was after scrutineering and that means engine can't be changed anymore.

mousti
27th June 2011, 19:48
Everything can be replaced besides a new engine then if it's after the scrutineering?

Or u mean another version of engine?

Mirek
27th June 2011, 20:07
Engine is sealed at scrutineering. You can't change it for another one no matter the type. For other parts it's not same for all. Some are unlimited, some not. Anyway it's like rally already started in terms of spares.

darkstar
27th June 2011, 21:01
Rallye-MAD.com (http://www.rallye-mad.com)

my video of the geko ypres rallye 2011, including the off from andersson, is also online now, have fun:

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4858/ypresrallye11.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_-AFzUxZTk&hd=1)

direkt link: YouTube - ‪GEKO Ypres Rallye 2011 [HD]‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_-AFzUxZTk&hd=1)

bluuford
27th June 2011, 21:32
Engine is sealed at scrutineering. You can't change it for another one no matter the type. For other parts it's not same for all. Some are unlimited, some not. Anyway it's like rally already started in terms of spares.

Remember Loeb in Mexico a couple of years back? I think they changed his engine and the changed it back?

mousti
27th June 2011, 21:33
Engine is sealed at scrutineering. You can't change it for another one no matter the type. For other parts it's not same for all. Some are unlimited, some not. Anyway it's like rally already started in terms of spares.
Interesting, so Superrally was out of question for Bruno even if they alot of budget they wouldn't get him to start again.

[Madeira-Rally]
27th June 2011, 22:34
I don't think so. Shakedown was after scrutineering and that means engine can't be changed anymore.

venerdě alle 23.15
Giandomenico Basso: Abbiamo finito la giornata: č stata abbastanza dura. Stiamo cercando di andare al massimo, sappiamo comunque che abbia
mo un motore "test" che non ha molto potenza rispetto a quello che abbiamo usato in Ucreaina e in Gran Canaria, perchč purtroppo si č rotto ieri quindi dobbiamo usare questo, sperando sia piů affidabile anche se andrŕ un pň meno

Giandomenico Basso: "E' dura, č difficile. Stiamo cercando di dare il massimo. Dopo il problema di motore che abbiamo avuto ieri e non siamo riusciti a fare lo shakedown, abbiamo dovuto cambiare il motore e probabilmente ci siamo tenuti dalla parte della ragione, perchč mi sembra che non spinga come al solito, quindi sto faticando ancora di piů.

Well, I'm not an expert in Italian... but... this two quotes from Basso... says that they changed the engine...

focus206
27th June 2011, 22:45
]venerdě alle 23.15
Giandomenico Basso: Abbiamo finito la giornata: č stata abbastanza dura. Stiamo cercando di andare al massimo, sappiamo comunque che abbia
mo un motore "test" che non ha molto potenza rispetto a quello che abbiamo usato in Ucreaina e in Gran Canaria, perchč purtroppo si č rotto ieri quindi dobbiamo usare questo, sperando sia piů affidabile anche se andrŕ un pň meno
Friday, 23:15
Giandomenico Basso: "We finished the day: it was pretty difficult. We are trying to go as fast as we can, anyway we know that we have a "test"-engine, it is less powerful than the one we used in Uckraine and Canarias, because yesterday we broke it, so we have to use this other one, hoping that it is more reliable, even if less powerful".

PLuto
28th June 2011, 01:47
It is possible to change engine before rally, if you broke it during shakedown.

PLuto
28th June 2011, 01:49
Got a 2 min penalty friday I think for service or something else.

Pluto did u get the chance to talk with Bouffier about his Fia A status?

Yes, I had lot of chances. But I must say the truth - I absolutely forgot... :-(

mousti
28th June 2011, 12:51
Yes, I had lot of chances. But I must say the truth - I absolutely forgot... :-(
Damn :( I should have remind u on Shakedown of that. The mystery is still not solved about that :p

vespa63
28th June 2011, 17:34
Friday pictures here : Rally News : Geko Ypres Rally (http://www.rally-news.fr/gallery/show/10598)
Enjoy ;)

mousti
28th June 2011, 18:55
Video begins with Kopecky crash..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNwWsQJvxac&feature=player_embedded#at=14

Hartusvuori
28th June 2011, 19:06
Video begins with Kopecky crash..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNwWsQJvxac&feature=player_embedded#at=14

YouTube - ‪Rally Ypres 2011 incidenti crashes VIDEO SI‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNwWsQJvxac&feature=youtu.be)

With that link you posted it starts after the Kopecky part (but it's nice feature from YouTube to be able to link to some part of video quickly).

mousti
28th June 2011, 19:08
YouTube - ‪Rally Ypres 2011 incidenti crashes VIDEO SI‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNwWsQJvxac&feature=youtu.be)

With that link you posted it starts after the Kopecky part (but it's nice feature from YouTube to be able to link to some part of video quickly).
It's because I opened from facebook and started after indeed...

Mirek
28th June 2011, 19:45
Video from friends including several big moments: YouTube - ‪Geko Ypres Rally 2011‬‏ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDtnCJvYtBQ&feature=player_embedded)

Rallytourist
28th June 2011, 21:16
It was interesting story. He went straight in one junction. Then he turned around and let one S2000 car to pass him (He didnt mention the name). About 700 meters later the same S2000 made a mistake and was blocking the road. To avoid the collision Kangur tried to pass the car from the side of the road but got stuck and spent next 10-11 minutes there.

It was Maurin he let pass him .

Allyc85
29th June 2011, 18:06
Ive just got around to sorting out a few of my pictures I took over the weekend and so far, ive uploaded my pictures from Friday in the town square and Saturday nights Podium. These pics are here Ypres Rally 2011 - a set on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/sets/72157626952941231/)

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6027/5884899438_86b6270bef.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/5884899438/)
Ypres Rally 2011 Driver Line Up 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/5884899438/) by Allyc85 (http://www.flickr.com/people/allyc85/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5039/5884349367_bdbb1b0ccb.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/5884349367/)
Ypres Rally IRC 2011 Driver Line Up (http://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/5884349367/) by Allyc85 (http://www.flickr.com/people/allyc85/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5023/5884953096_6616f21f59.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/5884953096/)
Ford Fiesta S2000 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/5884953096/) by Allyc85 (http://www.flickr.com/people/allyc85/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5080/5884318335_b750c96ae7.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/5884318335/)
Me and Thierry Neuville (http://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/5884318335/) by Allyc85 (http://www.flickr.com/people/allyc85/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5036/5884321451_a6d722a884.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/5884321451/)
Proton Satria Neo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/5884321451/) by Allyc85 (http://www.flickr.com/people/allyc85/), on Flickr

Got to say a massive thanks to Phill (Mintexmemories) who let me tag along with him for the weekend. We found some brilliant spots, saw some great action and he didnt seem too pissed off when I forgot my pass as we headed off to SS1! Cheers mate!

uranium
29th June 2011, 20:31
Video begins with Kopecky crash..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNwWsQJvxac&feature=player_embedded#at=14

OMG. Really serious impact.

Mintexmemory
29th June 2011, 20:35
Cheers Ally, great w/e - Love the team photos of the top drivers, come on get yer action stuff up on Flickr - I'm still working through shakedown and Friday night. 35mm stuff off to the Lab today:-)

millbrook
30th June 2011, 09:38
My pics are online now @ rallypix.tk (http://www.rallypix.tk)

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9214/sizedywr187.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/233/sizedywr187.jpg/)

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/7282/sizedywr427.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/sizedywr427.jpg/)

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6169/sizedywr581.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/sizedywr581.jpg/)

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/8838/sizedywr709.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/823/sizedywr709.jpg/)

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3029/sizedywr770.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/193/sizedywr770.jpg/)

Gregor-y
30th June 2011, 16:50
Video begins with Kopecky crash..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNwWsQJvxac
Watching that video really shows how important it is to know those roads. What kind of recce is allowed there?

MK2 BDG
30th June 2011, 17:17
What kind of recce is allowed there?


2 Days,, form memory this year, 4 stages on Tuesday and 6 on the Wednesday,, with 2 pass allowed per stage,,,

mousti
30th June 2011, 17:28
For the first time it was 2 times allowed, isn't it? Last few years it was 3 I thought. Heard from Dai Roberts (Greer's Co) he loved Recce here it's first class compared to the BritishRC..

Finally completed my Historic album!

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2095845872404.122007.1133063554

Some pics of Janota too, think Mirek will like that :D

MK2 BDG
30th June 2011, 17:33
For the first time it was 2 times allowed, isn't it? Last few years it was 3 I thought.

Correct,, Previous year we have done the event, its been 3 passe's over the stages,, this year, only 2 allowed

Allyc85
30th June 2011, 21:40
My action pics are up now..

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6004/5888504048_0184368bfe_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/5888504048/)
Steve Perez Lancia Stratos Ypres Rally 2011 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/5888504048/) by Allyc85 (http://www.flickr.com/people/allyc85/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5187/5888567004_a4af95ea31_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/5888567004/)
Guy Wilks Ypres Rally 2011 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/5888567004/) by Allyc85 (http://www.flickr.com/people/allyc85/), on Flickr

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6052/5887982431_9f6185cd57_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/5887982431/)
Renault 5 Turbo Ypres Historic Rally 2011 1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/5887982431/) by Allyc85 (http://www.flickr.com/people/allyc85/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5310/5888564598_4d71bc09d1_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/5888564598/)
Freddy Loix Ypres Rally 2011 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/5888564598/) by Allyc85 (http://www.flickr.com/people/allyc85/), on Flickr

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5266/5888523628_c9016615f1_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/5888523628/)
Patrick Snijers Ypres Rally 2011 1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/5888523628/) by Allyc85 (http://www.flickr.com/people/allyc85/), on Flickr

Allyc85
30th June 2011, 21:42
And a quick video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVc3m6Y0mhU

Luis Pacheco
30th June 2011, 22:04
My action pics are up now..

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6004/5888504048_0184368bfe_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/allyc85/5888504048/)


Last year I took a picture beside Perez´s Stratos at Rallye Portugal.

http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb328/pacheco1976/stratos.jpg

As I know the car was badly damaged at Ypres :(

mousti
30th June 2011, 22:23
And a quick video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVc3m6Y0mhU
But one great video I love the sound of the limiter !!

Mirek
1st July 2011, 06:32
Last year I took a picture beside Perez´s Stratos at Rallye Portugal.

http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb328/pacheco1976/stratos.jpg

As I know the car was badly damaged at Ypres :(

Yes...
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/263480_245006395516889_233546303329565_1090997_482 5755_n.jpg

Jarek Z
1st July 2011, 09:44
As I know the car was badly damaged at Ypres :(

...but the bonnet still says "Stay in the game"! ;)

Allyc85
1st July 2011, 16:15
Thats sad to see Steve's car like that after all the hard work put in to get it running right :(

Another video, this time from Fridays night stage. I dont think the video does the speed and commitment through this section justice!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkBLtBdwQek

aircologne
1st July 2011, 17:18
sorr< very very late this time, but sorting 8000 photos takes a time
however here are some of mine:
Hier klicken um die Originalgröße von 750x562px und 126KB zu sehen.
http://forum.rallye-magazin.de/galerien/data/500/008_-_Protos_Satria_Neo_S2000_-_Pergunnar_Andersson_-_SWE_c.JPG

Hier klicken um die Originalgröße von 750x562px und 107KB zu sehen.
http://forum.rallye-magazin.de/galerien/data/500/024_-_Ford_Fiesta_S2000_-_Felix_Herbold_-_GER_b.JPG

Hier klicken um die Originalgröße von 750x562px und 100KB zu sehen.
http://forum.rallye-magazin.de/galerien/data/500/025_-_Skoda_Fabia_S2000_EVO_2_-_Karl_Kruuda_-_EST_c.JPG

Hier klicken um die Originalgröße von 750x562px und 125KB zu sehen.
http://forum.rallye-magazin.de/galerien/data/500/005_-_Peugeot_207_S2000_-_Thierry_Neuville_-_BEL_a.JPG

Hier klicken um die Originalgröße von 750x562px und 127KB zu sehen.
http://forum.rallye-magazin.de/galerien/data/500/034_-_Renault_Megane_RS_R4_-_R4_-_Kris_Prinzen_-_BEL_b.JPG


some more you can find here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/teamcologne/sets/72157626953868485/

Plhus
2nd July 2011, 15:26
My pictures: ŠKODA rally club Zlín CZ - Home (http://www.src.czechrallyeweb.net/)

OldF
2nd July 2011, 15:41
but sorting 8000 photos takes a time

You watch the whole rally true the camera lens. :)

Btw, nice pics.

Luis Pacheco
2nd July 2011, 20:08
My pictures: ŠKODA rally club Zlín CZ - Home (http://www.src.czechrallyeweb.net/)

Amazing pics!

Mirek
3rd July 2011, 10:18
This one is epic :D

http://www.src.czechrallyeweb.net/images/ypres2011/ypres_45.jpg

OldF
3rd July 2011, 10:24
Time for harvesting, you see. ;)

MartijnS
3rd July 2011, 12:20
Haha :D
8000 photos at one rally???

Mirek
5th July 2011, 10:35
Great video of JM: YouTube - &#x202a;Geko Ypres Rally 2011 [HD] by JM&#x202c;&rlm; (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCOu9RnJ77M&feature=feedu)

Mintexmemory
6th July 2011, 21:15
Can anyone give me the location of the ditch that Oleksowicz and Maurin visit in the video? PM me if you don't want everyone to know. Just got to go there next year :s mokin:

MK2 BDG
6th July 2011, 21:37
Can anyone give me the location of the ditch that Oleksowicz and Maurin visit in the video? PM me if you don't want everyone to know. Just got to go there next year :s mokin:

Recon i do,, but need to check the notes etc, as sure we have it marked ,, ??

mousti
6th July 2011, 22:41
Can anyone give me the location of the ditch that Oleksowicz and Maurin visit in the video? PM me if you don't want everyone to know. Just got to go there next year :s mokin:
A bit before Public Zone E of SS Langemark, planning to go there too next year :D

Raven
7th July 2011, 10:28
http://www.src.czechrallyeweb.net/images/ypres2011/small/ypres_45_small.jpg
It's the best illustration of Proton's situation - they are still searching the way to catch other S2000 manufacturers and some times they are far from the right road :)

Perez´s Stratos is the real one or a replica?

Mintexmemory
7th July 2011, 12:04
http://www.src.czechrallyeweb.net/images/ypres2011/small/ypres_45_small.jpg
It's the best illustration of Proton's situation - they are still searching the way to catch other S2000 manufacturers and some times they are far from the right road :)

Perez´s Stratos is the real one or a replica?

The Perez stratos is real and it has taken a number of years for him to get it back into a competitive state. His team worked miracles to get it in shape to run again at Goodwood on the following Saturday, looking fantastic as my shot shows.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm301/SnowyCropton/perezStratos.jpg

Allyc85
7th July 2011, 17:46
A bit before Public Zone E of SS Langemark, planning to go there too next year :D

We should have a motorsports forum meet there :D

mousti
7th July 2011, 21:27
We should have a motorsports forum meet there :D
That would be great with maybe Mirek coming again too Ypres :D .

Mintexmemory
8th July 2011, 11:26
That would be great with maybe Mirek coming again too Ypres :D .

Thanks for the ditch info, a meet up next year is a great idea, we could call it Ditchfest.
By the way my prediction was minutely better than yours as Wilks was 6th (the only position either of us got right besides FL winning). However, my feeling about Luca Rossetti not being quick enough (or rather the Abarth) was correct.
3 of my digital shots now edited below, my processed 35mm reels should be in the letter box at home today
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm301/SnowyCropton/YEld-1.jpg

Van Eldik during Shakedown

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm301/SnowyCropton/YBarra.jpg

Barrable on Langemark 2 at nightfall

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm301/SnowyCropton/Yabb.jpg

Kevin Abbring after interacting with the environment

mousti
11th July 2011, 16:46
Thanks for the ditch info, a meet up next year is a great idea, we could call it Ditchfest.
By the way my prediction was minutely better than yours as Wilks was 6th (the only position either of us got right besides FL winning). However, my feeling about Luca Rossetti not being quick enough (or rather the Abarth) was correct.

Ditchfest indeed :D

Luca would be top 5 for sure without all the problems he had, he was everywhere on the limit and did some good times but like everyone else he had bad luck. And u have to admit that Protons are really rubbish :D and that the locals are very fast here. Tsjoen who had only 80 km's testing with the 207 before Ypres did very great times and was running for podium against this IRC/International field till that stupid mistake! Casier doing good also although I expected him even faster and Weijs was superb.. Everyone besides Loix had bad luck almost crazy Ypres a bit like the TDF now :D

Mintexmemory
12th July 2011, 10:09
Ditchfest indeed :D

Luca would be top 5 for sure without all the problems he had, he was everywhere on the limit :D
And if my Aunt was my Uncle she'd be called Bob and not Fanny. You've said it there, - everywhere on the limit - in a car that isn't good enough. I could see that at the Costa Smeralda where Andreucci and Scandola were quicker and not on the limit. I think Luca and Sr Chiarcossi are really nice guys but if Mikkelsen, Neuville, Tsjoen and Kopecky had not had problems he'd have been 4 places lower down the order for starters. I agree completely that Proton have a big job ahead, let's see what the new engine will do, they look and sound great but there are no prizes for style ;-)

Luis Pacheco
21st July 2011, 16:01
Looks like Bouffier was disqualified from Ypres. :confused:

[Madeira-Rally]
21st July 2011, 16:05
Looks like Bouffier was disqualified from Ypres. :confused:

From rally radio FB

We are hearing reports that Bryan Bouffier has been disqualified from Ypres Rally due to illegal steering on his Peugeot S2000 207. He loses all 18 points he gained on the rally and now has a total of 61 points and is 4th in the championship. More news when we have it.

mousti
21st July 2011, 16:50
Weird stuff! Can somebody tell me what illegal steering is?

RS
21st July 2011, 17:04
Belgian scrutineers are a little slow or they were giving Peugeot time to prove themselves legal?

OldF
21st July 2011, 17:36
Illegal steering, or any other part in car, is illegal if it’s discovered to be different than a part on the car’s homologation form during scrutineering.

mousti
21st July 2011, 17:45
RS they're slow like the governement and the justice system..

Ah so it's probably something modified on the steering wheel.. Because they said steering I was mostly thinking about the steering that he did what seemed so weird but if something was wrong on the steering wheel then I understand it :D

mousti
21st July 2011, 18:25
Spokesperson of Peugeot has confirmed it and said it was an mistake with the assembly of the steering..

bluuford
21st July 2011, 18:46
Looks like Peugeot have serious problems with their quality control. Shame that drivers who have worked a lot suffer due to manufacturer faults. It has got worse and worse since our favourite teamboss has been responsible..

RICARDO75
21st July 2011, 20:26
They need 4 weeks to say that?

rsmith16
22nd July 2011, 08:47
Wasn't Meeke disqualified from Rally Scotland for a similar issue?

[Madeira-Rally]
22nd July 2011, 10:18
Wasn't Meeke disqualified from Rally Scotland for a similar issue?

I think yes...

Mirek
22nd July 2011, 10:34
Belgian scrutineers are a little slow or they were giving Peugeot time to prove themselves legal?

It was FIA scrutineers who did some extra check of some parts. Car of Loix was said to be OK after five days.


Wasn't Meeke disqualified from Rally Scotland for a similar issue?

Too light front subframe.

mousti
22nd July 2011, 17:22
This screw Bouffier's title chances a lot !

focus206
23rd July 2011, 02:19
Nooo... too bad for Bouffier :(

Allyc85
23rd July 2011, 19:39
Bad for Bouffier and bad for the sport, its very bad that something like this can take so long and also be kept so quiet.

mousti
23rd July 2011, 19:59
I think cycling has a way more tougher time ;)

Mintexmemory
25th July 2011, 10:43
Bad for Bouffier and bad for the sport, its very bad that something like this can take so long and also be kept so quiet.

But on the bright side Weijs inherits 2nd place on his first S2000 drive and Guy gets more points :-)