Smoking..

[Malbec]

Nope, smoking brings in a massive net profit for the country, treating all its ills is a drop in the ocean compared with the revenue it creates. (there are links earlier in the thread if you are one of these dullards that need a link to show them night follows day)

The state does make a small net profit from smoking but it isn't massive.

What makes me wonder is why you're so proud of smokers sacrificing their health and money to subsidise multinational profits.

[BDunnell]

Is this going to be the "everything is dangerous" train of thought?

I think 'train of thought' is pushing things a bit far.

[Bolton Midnight]

The state does make a small net profit from smoking but it isn't massive.



It is massive, scroll back and check the figures yourself as I cba to prove what I already know.



Is this going to be the "everything is dangerous" train of thought?

Driving fast, drinking alcohol is certainly known to be dangerous and certainly not essential life choices, so do I take that as a 'ye's then?

[Bolton Midnight]

I think 'train of thought' is pushing things a bit far.

Go away the grown ups are talking, you go and wreck your own threads rather than spoiling other peoples.

[Captain VXR]

Do you drink or drive fast? (not at the same time of course)

Well, things like that do it for me, its worth the risk, plus I prefer not to get obliterated, just be drunk to the point that everything is awesome
I don't see people going out for Sambuca breaks during the working day though......

[Knock-on]

I don't see people going out for Sambuca breaks during the working day though......

Speak for yourself. If I haven't consumed my weekly limit by midday on Monday, then I'm playing catchup for the rest of the week :beer:

[Bolton Midnight]

Well, things like that do it for me, its worth the risk, plus I prefer not to get obliterated, just be drunk to the point that everything is awesome
I don't see people going out for Sambuca breaks during the working day though......

But isn't that a bit selfish, you drive quickly even though doing 28mph would be safer for other road users and those around you?

There is nothing healthy about getting drunk even moderately drunk.

Plenty of man hours lost through booze though, least a fag break only takes a couple of minutes a duvet day hung over is an entire 8hrs.

[Captain VXR]

But isn't that a bit selfish, you drive quickly even though doing 28mph would be safer for other road users and those around you?

There is nothing healthy about getting drunk even moderately drunk.

Plenty of man hours lost through booze though, least a fag break only takes a couple of minutes a duvet day hung over is an entire 8hrs.
I wouldn't drive like a prick, like people who do 40mph everywhere regardless of the speed limit, and people shoudn't booze up the day before work if they get hangovers that affect their working day seriously.
My health is my choice, and if I'm gonna risk it, it better be worth it (and IMO, tobacco isn't)
I'll stick with alcohol and mary jane (both not very often, and in sensible ish amounts)
What about the time taken thinking about the next ciggie, time possibly spent rolling etc

[Bolton Midnight]

I wouldn't drive like a prick, like people who do 40mph everywhere regardless of the speed limit, and people shoudn't booze up the day before work if they get hangovers that affect their working day seriously.
My health is my choice, and if I'm gonna risk it, it better be worth it (and IMO, tobacco isn't)
I'll stick with alcohol and mary jane (both not very often, and in sensible ish amounts)
What about the time taken thinking about the next ciggie, time possibly spent rolling etc

Don't worry I'm not one of those that pretends to be holier than thou or anything, I speed, I drink, I smoke etc all the time.

Just pointing out that we all do stuff that can and does impinge on others lives whether they want it to or not - just like smokers in pubs.

I'm self employed so any time wasted smoking is my own time ditto getting up late to avoid driving the morning after a session.

I do not smoke and no smoke in the future.

Smoking is harmful to health.





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[SGWilko]

Anyone in the UK see the front page of the Metro today?

12p 'cure' for smokers not to be made available in Britain | Metro.co.uk (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/876964-12p-cure-for-smokers-not-to-be-made-available-in-britain)

Only in good old Blighty, eh?

[SGWilko]

If you did 28mph on the motorway .

You'd be one of the myriad people who have no clue what the Highway Code is...... :p

[Knock-on]

Anyone in the UK see the front page of the Metro today?

12p 'cure' for smokers not to be made available in Britain | Metro.co.uk (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/876964-12p-cure-for-smokers-not-to-be-made-available-in-britain)

Only in good old Blighty, eh?

It will be soon but hasn't been ratified yet for the NHS.

[Bolton Midnight]

You can die pressing a light switch and I think most of us are aware of mortality. Somehow, yellow fingers, brown teeth, exposed cheekbones, and wrinkly lips before the final result of cancer doesn't appeal. You could drive fast and be gone in an instant and smoke fags and be go slowly.

If you did 28mph on the motorway I think you could count the amount of minutes you could stay alive on one hand.

To be honest I've got nothing against smokers and I don't judge people who smoke, I just don't see the appeal.

Putting on lights is an essential part of living, drinking, smoking, speeding etc aren't.

Plenty of non smokers get cancer and die a slow painful death you know, just because one smokes does not mean they will automatically get cancer. Coal is black but that does not mean all black things are coal, see.

Plenty of folk drive too slow on the motorway, usually the types who moan about stuff like second-hand smoke.

[Bolton Midnight]

Anyone in the UK see the front page of the Metro today?

12p 'cure' for smokers not to be made available in Britain | Metro.co.uk (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/876964-12p-cure-for-smokers-not-to-be-made-available-in-britain)

Only in good old Blighty, eh?

Took years of smokers having to fund their own medicines to stop, despite all the tax they had paid, whereas heroine addicts for example got it all for free.

Within the NHS smokers should be treated like royalty.

[BDunnell]

Took years of smokers having to fund their own medicines to stop, despite all the tax they had paid, whereas heroine addicts for example got it all for free.

Within the NHS smokers should be treated like royalty.

If you occupy such an important position in the NHS as you claim, why not try to influence its policy to those ends?

[Captain VXR]

Don't worry I'm not one of those that pretends to be holier than thou or anything, I speed, I drink, I smoke etc all the time.

Just pointing out that we all do stuff that can and does impinge on others lives whether they want it to or not - just like smokers in pubs.

I'm self employed so any time wasted smoking is my own time ditto getting up late to avoid driving the morning after a session.

Fair enough :)

[Bolton Midnight]

Any examples where I have called you a nasty name Bolton?

PS: 'muther funger' is not a real term which was in response to Daniel and it wasn't aimed in an insulting way.. Nice try though.. And saying your arguement (not you as a person) is pathetic is very different to referring to someone as an idiot and a moron. ;)

Who said nasty? Idiot is hardly nasty is it? Unless you're on Newsnight it would seem.

It was aimed at me as I was the only one asking if Daniel was a 12 year old child. And clearly is a cleaned up version of Mutha F. So stop squirming and just admit that yet again you've got it wrong.

[Bolton Midnight]

If you occupy such an important position in the NHS as you claim, why not try to influence its policy to those ends?

Do I? When did I say that, please show me the exact quote, then when you can't apologise, time to man up.

[Bolton Midnight]

Is that a fact? I'd be interested to learn how you manage to ask them.

Same mindset, the clueless elements of society; drive slowly as their brains can't process information very well, have pointless jobs, bitter and twisted, bit ugly, struggle with members of the opposite sex, can't handle their own lives but feel they have a right to meddle in other people's lives, tend to vote Liebour or Liberal, socially inept, virgins, vegetarians, public sector types

that sort of loser

[Bolton Midnight]

Nah.

Figured as much, not to worry one of your chums will be along soon to pat you on the back and congratulate you despite being wrong again.

[ArrowsFA1]

...the clueless elements of society; drive slowly as their brains can't process information very well, have pointless jobs, bitter and twisted, bit ugly, struggle with members of the opposite sex, can't handle their own lives but feel they have a right to meddle in other people's lives, tend to vote Liebour or Liberal, socially inept, virgins, vegetarians, public sector types

that sort of loser
Good to know you don't label people using condescending stereotypes :rolleyes:

[Bolton Midnight]

Good to know you don't label people using condescending stereotypes :rolleyes:

and why not, you can be very accurate with sweeping generalisations and it is impractical to treat everyone as individuals. Nope pretty safe to assume that the most anti smoking types are also self righteous prigs.

[Bolton Midnight]

I think I am done here. :)

PS: If you want to take this as a victory Bolton you are more than welcome. I just can't be bothered anymore. I wouldn't bother joining this one Arrows if I were you.

It was a victory for me pages ago, I say something, you and your merry band say its not so and demand links to prove it, I supply said links then you ignore them as it doesn't suit your incorrect viewpoints.

[ArrowsFA1]

and why not, you can be very accurate with sweeping generalisations and it is impractical to treat everyone as individuals.
A point never better illustrated by your posts.

Sweeping generalisations claimed as fact and a distainful attitude to individuals on the forum.

Well done. You win.

[Knock-on]

and why not, you can be very accurate with sweeping generalisations and it is impractical to treat everyone as individuals. Nope pretty safe to assume that the most anti smoking types are also self righteous prigs.

Well, I consider myself anti-smoking but "self righteous prig" doesn't really sit well on my shoulders.

You on the other hand :laugh:

[self righteous prig mode]

Seriously though, with your stance on this thread, you have dragged it into the dirt IMHO. The fact that you only have a few infractions is nothing short of a miracle and testament to the patience of the Mods.

If you want a ban and to sod off for a few months then that's up to you. We have a couple of members that just turn up to cause as much trouble as possible before getting another ban and if you want to do that, then it's pretty cowardly and immature but your choice.

If not, and you want to participate in this forum, then wind it in a bit and treat people like you would in real life.

I think you have a lot to offer the forum. I don't agree with most of what you say but it's a great counterweight to a lot of opinions on here and refreshing. Be passionate, be controversial, be angry but be a bit more intelligent and less insulting eh? ;)

[/self righteous prig mode]

[Bolton Midnight]

If not, and you want to participate in this forum, then wind it in a bit and treat people like you would in real life.

I treat others as they treat me, pretty sure folk wouldn't speak to my face the way they have in here, so sorry the ball is firmly in other peoples court.

[BDunnell]

I think you have a lot to offer the forum. I don't agree with most of what you say but it's a great counterweight to a lot of opinions on here and refreshing.

'Refreshing'? I don't think so.

[Bolton Midnight]

'Refreshing'? I don't think so.

Right on cue, see what I mean.

Don't expect me to be civil to trolls like this.

[BDunnell]

Right on cue, see what I mean.

Don't expect me to be civil to trolls like this.

I am merely expressing an opinion — one that hardly seems to be unique.

As I have often said in the past, I am perfectly happy to engage in debate with people of all sorts of viewpoints, but it helps if the manner in which their contributions are made marks them out to be a reasonable individual whose opinions are born out of something more than anger and ignorance.

[Bolton Midnight]

slaver.

no you're not, your debating skills amount to

don't believe you, you're wrong I'm right ner ner

tell me what you see here

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[Knock-on]

Get a room you two :laugh:

Honestly, you're both as pig headed as each other and I should know with the run-ins I've had with members on herein the past ;)

[Bolton Midnight]

Get a room you two :laugh:

Honestly, you're both as pig headed as each other and I should know with the run-ins I've had with members on herein the past ;)

He brings absolutely zero to all the threads he posts on, he is a giant (well look at the picture)

[Garry Walker]

Well lets agree to disagree then, but every pub/bar in every town I've been to the smoking area was always the busiest part,

Yeah, and usually most people gathering in that area suffer from very low IQ.



Plenty of folk drive too slow on the motorway, usually the types who moan about stuff like second-hand smoke.
You stupid smokers are all so freaking retarded, what right do you idiots have in ruining my health with your stupid addiction.
I love it that smoking has been banned in so many places, great job. Finally I can go to a pub without coming home stinking like I had been in an oven and not having to put up with the disgusting smell of smoke all the time. Awesome, awesome.


I treat others as they treat me, pretty sure folk wouldn't speak to my face the way they have in here, so sorry the ball is firmly in other peoples court.
I would talk to you any way I like and you wouldnt have the balls to say even one thing back to me without making a brownie in your pants.

[Bolton Midnight]

Yeah, and usually most people gathering in that area suffer from very low IQ.


You stupid smokers are all so freaking retarded, what right do you idiots have in ruining my health with your stupid addiction.
I love it that smoking has been banned in so many places, great job. Finally I can go to a pub without coming home stinking like I had been in an oven and not having to put up with the disgusting smell of smoke all the time. Awesome, awesome.


I would talk to you any way I like and you wouldnt have the balls to say even one thing back to me without making a brownie in your pants.

Got a shred of evidence to back that up?

Your shirts > someone's livelihood oh okay then

Oooh so butch, a keyboard warrior.

[BDunnell]

You stupid smokers are all so freaking retarded

Let's not get quite so rude about it. I used to smoke, then gave up. Does that mean I was 'retarded' (not a pleasant term to use) up until the point I stopped smoking? If so, that would be an almost magical transformation.

[Mark]

Pino has closed this thread. Good call, this thread has been disgusting.