DiRT3

[lcd]

Is this Codemasters answer to Milestone?
DiRT3 Official news came out of nowhere!

http://www.facebook.com/dirt3game

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=257998

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/110/1109585p1.html

[bennizw]

Some how I think the release of an image from a snow stage has been planned for a long time ;)

[lcd]

More rally, classic cars, weather conditions (rain,snow) and new locations, officialy confirmed for DiRT3.
What's left to see, Is the percentage of rally VS off road stuff...
I guess It will be a 50%-50% this time.

http://www.facebook.com/dirt3game

[lcd]

New confirmed game details:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/mag-spills-dirt-3-details

[MrMetro]

New confirmed game details:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/mag-spills-dirt-3-details

although I didn't like dirt 2, that report makes dirt 3 sound pretty cool, as long as rallying is the main focus again.

[lcd]

Don't know If rally will be on the main focus, but since CM started using
the term 'rally' again, rally part of the game will be more proper.
Meanwhile, over 50 rally cars confirmed (!)
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/dirt-3-has-over-50-rally-cars
I think 50 different rally cars are too much;probably they sum up all the liveries too...
Maybe we're talking around 12-15 different car models of 4-5 liveries each.

[lcd]

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/111/1110806p1.html

[Allyc85]

Group B = win
Split screen = big win

Its looking so much better than the first two so far!

[MrJan]

One thing that Codemasters have always done well is to represent the different eras of rallying. Just in CMR2 they had Mini, Stratos, 6R4, 205T16, Sierra Cosworth and a Delta. Dirt2 was a bit crappy with stuff like the Pontiac Solstice and BMW Z4 (anyone ever seen one of those in a stage?) but at least they had the MK2, RS200 and a perfect sounding 6R4.

Interesting that they've also got a WRC licence this time, bet Black Bean weren't too happy about that.

[pino]

Great news here:

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/driving/dirt3/news.html?sid=6272778&mode=previews

[lcd]

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/driving/dirt3/news.html?sid=6272778&mode=previews

'...here's an abundance of new routes--100 over Dirt 2's 41...' :eek:

Suzuki Sx4 Hill Climb Special means that Hillclimb races return? :p

[lcd]

Some Interesting Info from Paul Coleman (DiRT 3 Senior Designer):

''We have different tyre types available which will affect how the cars handle on different surfaces.''

''We will not have a Track Editor in DiRT 3. We are investigating it for future titles though''

''We have some reversals and some overlap between rally stages. We avoid reusing the same bit of road as much as possible.''

''We are working on getting more rally into the game by increasing the number of stages in events.''

Kick_Up (DiRT 3 Senior Designer) on Twitter (http://twitter.com/kick_up)

[lcd]

Kris Meeke testing DiRT3!

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/3630/mx9h.jpg (http://img690.imageshack.us/i/mx9h.jpg/)

[bennizw]

That´s a good sign!

[lcd]

That´s a good sign!

Only If he gets Involved In the physics-Otherwise, It will be another
marketing trick, like his photoshoot during the presentation of DiRT2 ;)

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/9784/krisw.jpg (http://img835.imageshack.us/i/krisw.jpg/)

[gravelman]

Game is a long way away yet, with Kris being based a lot closer than Mr Block, this may be a McRae-esque input into the game. His experience of the various types of vehicle formats could be in valuable to us, the fans enjoyment of the game. Thre man has an in depth knowledge and experience of driving, testing and developing top line cars, such as the C4 and Xsara WRC, Peugeot 207, numerous Super 1600 Fwd cars, Group B Metros and RWD Escorts. On another level its nie to see a bit of continuity, with Kris having been Colins protege :)

[lcd]

I agree. Codemasters have confirmed that DiRT3, will be the final of the DiRT series
and after that, they will start up a brand new series, though they haven't said If we're talking
about a rally or an offroad new series!
Let's hope they return to rally gaming with Kris to be the man
behind the game, just like Colin did! :)

[lcd]

Paul Coleman, senior DiRT3 designer: 'Our adrenaline fueled stages average out at over 5 miles. We have classic Finland stages with some awesome airborne moments.'

[Blazquez]

I got a better feeling about Dirt 3 then WRC2010 .... in the rally section.... just because Kris Meeke is helping whit Dirt 3 whit a professional co-driver.... somethign that WRC2010 didnt had...

[MrJan]

Is that on a banked section? Why is a 207 s2000 on an oval?

[pettersolberg29]

I assume its a Superspecial stage?

[lcd]

I assume its a Superspecial stage?

More possible to be a rallycross track...

[It's JM]

Hopefully Dirt 3 won't fall flat and be X-Games based like Dirt 2. They might as well had called Dirt 2 "Ken Block Dirt 2."

[lcd]

Hopefully Dirt 3 won't fall flat and be X-Games based like Dirt 2. They might as well had called Dirt 2 "Ken Block Dirt 2."

Don't worry, It will have all the X-Games and off road stuff, like DiRT2 had!
Though I don't get what you mean by 'fall flat' expression...

btw, here's a new review:
Preview: DiRT 3 Gameplay Preview - ComputerAndVideoGames.com (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=264333)

[306 Cosworth]

Dirt3 will be 10x better than WRC will ever be! Can't wait for this game to be released :D

[MrJan]

Dirt3 will be 10x better than WRC will ever be! Can't wait for this game to be released :D

I wouldn't bother getting your hopes up for either. I've got a feeling that Codies are paying a lot of lip service with little action. I'll wait and see though, will probably end up getting both.

[lcd]

Dirt3 will be 10x better than WRC will ever be!

Sure, since CM are 10x more experienced In making rally/racing games! ;)

[pettersolberg29]

Is that on a banked section? Why is a 207 s2000 on an oval?

Might actually be this Gymkhana stage? Looks similar to this picture - http://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/86715

[lcd]

Might actually be this Gymkhana stage? Looks similar to this picture - http://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/86715

Nice catch ps29! ;)

[It's JM]

Don't worry, It will have all the X-Games and off road stuff, like DiRT2 had!
Though I don't get what you mean by 'fall flat' expression...

btw, here's a new review:
Preview: DiRT 3 Gameplay Preview - ComputerAndVideoGames.com (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=264333)
What I meant by 'fall flat' was the fact that Dirt 2 was mostly focused on the American aspect of rallying as well as X-Games rallying (which isn't really as exciting when you compare it to rallying in Europe).

[lcd]

What I meant by 'fall flat' was the fact that Dirt 2 was mostly focused on the American aspect of rallying as well as X-Games rallying (which isn't really as exciting when you compare it to rallying in Europe).

Sorry, misunderstood the expression 'fall flat' !!! :p :

[Blazquez]

.... Dont know iof the rally part would be good i guess we got a very very very very nice rally game!

Whit the Group B section!

http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac102/Rallylegend/Dirt%203/Quatro.jpg

The Gymkhana 3 , look soo realistic!
http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac102/Rallylegend/Dirt%203/Focus2-1.jpg

And this makes me thing rally is getting back!

http://i890.photobucket.com/albums/ac102/Rallylegend/Dirt%203/Focus1.jpg

[Blazquez]

Codemasters announced:" Rally is coming back for sure. There will be more information in the next few weeks"

[lcd]

DiRΤ3 rally locations confirmed:Finland, Norway, Kenya and Michigan (!!!) Where's Monte Carlo???
There will be 8 stages per country, but some of them they will be sprint stages :( and some other longer.
Finland & Michigan will have rain. Kenya will be dry and Norway will
have snow! The will all have night stages!All cars on the night stages
will be fitted with light rigs/bars to help with visibility!

(taken from: http://twitter.com/kick_up )

[richy]

DiRΤ3 rally locations confirmed:Finland, Norway, Kenya and Michigan (!!!) Where's Monte Carlo???
There will be 8 stages per country, but some of them they will be sprint stages :( and some other longer.
Finland & Michigan will have rain. Kenya will be dry and Norway will
have snow! The will all have night stages!All cars on the night stages
will be fitted with light rigs/bars to help with visibility!

(taken from: http://twitter.com/kick_up )

No GB either? :confused: , sorry but a rally game should be a rally game, got a feeling we'v had similair to this before, oh yeah Dirt 2

[pino]

DiRΤ3 rally locations confirmed:Finland, Norway, Kenya and Michigan (!!!) Where's Monte Carlo???
There will be 8 stages per country, but some of them they will be sprint stages :( and some other longer.
Finland & Michigan will have rain. Kenya will be dry and Norway will
have snow! The will all have night stages!All cars on the night stages
will be fitted with light rigs/bars to help with visibility!

(taken from: http://twitter.com/kick_up )

No Monte ??? what the hell Michigan's doing there ? :s disappointed again !

[Allyc85]

Rbbish that there is no Uk or Monte, come on Codemasters sort it out!

[MrJan]

In case you missed it ;)


I wouldn't bother getting your hopes up for either. I've got a feeling that Codies are paying a lot of lip service with little action.

:p :

[Blazquez]

I asked the questions and i gained an answer , still not all rallies are confirmed,.. they are still looking for some classic rallies , so there will be more!! perhaps monte carlo or w/e also we get 50 rally cars in D3 from 1963 till 2011 there will be a car setup for each rally , only there wont be a shakedown

[306 Cosworth]

Monte Carlo is already confirmed for the game. I think another car that will feature is the Renault Alpine A110 as they have already done sound recordings for that car.

[Allyc85]

From Ken Block on facebook..

"Spent the day at a recording studio in London working on voice overs for the upcoming Dirt3 video game. I suck at that stuff, but at least I had Dirt2 voice over pro Christian Stevenson to join me (he’s the voice of a lot of the stuff you hear in the Dirt games). You wouldn't believe how times I had to say "steer hard...". Thankfully my job is behind the wheel, not behind the mic!"

Sounds like we might get loads of unhelpful comments like in the WRC game if he had to keep on saying steer hard, like you would anyway!

[MrJan]

Sounds like we might get loads of unhelpful comments like in the WRC game if he had to keep on saying steer hard, like you would anyway!

I'm amazed that developers still put stuff like that in, if it doesn't irritate you immediately then it will after a few times of hearing it.

[Blazquez]

I'm amazed that developers still put stuff like that in, if it doesn't irritate you immediately then it will after a few times of hearing it.

Yhea u are right , but still,.... the games are not made for "fans, rallyfans , offroad fans , or adults" its made for kids.... i still cant understand why codemasters and blackbean games dont make a "Sim" rally / offroad racing game whit all the racing rules , and realistic for the fans froma sport because still , i bet that many many racing /rally fans / adults will buy these games , because today we live in a world that games are not just for kids , but also for adults!

[lcd]

DiRT3 Rally dev diary:
wZ0TOjomgt4

[soco3594]

Do the Dirt games even belong in a simulation forum?

[MrJan]

Do the Dirt games even belong in a simulation forum?

Well they aren't exactly real life so I doubt that they would be welcome in the WRC forum.

[Allyc85]

I hope there is less bugs in this game than F1 2010 ;)

[lcd]

First DiRT3 gameplay video (Finland):
http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/pre-alpha-gameplay-for-dirt-3

Same old story: wide roads and low difficulty level stage.
Graphics/sound seem good I suppose.

[ryan92]

Yhea u are right , but still,.... the games are not made for "fans, rallyfans , offroad fans , or adults" its made for kids.... i still cant understand why codemasters and blackbean games dont make a "Sim" rally / offroad racing game whit all the racing rules , and realistic for the fans froma sport because still , i bet that many many racing /rally fans / adults will buy these games , because today we live in a world that games are not just for kids , but also for adults!

High definition games for the ps3 and 360 are more costly to make than their predecessors, game developers need to make profit, and it is harder to break even with niche games like rallysims.

Its annoying but I'll doubt we'll ever see anything like RBR again...

[Blazquez]

First DiRT3 gameplay video (Finland):
http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/pre-alpha-gameplay-for-dirt-3

Same old story: wide roads and low difficulty level stage.
Graphics/sound seem good I suppose.

but that was not the rally section , it was the peak section, as at the codemasters forum , the rally section wont get wide roads,..

[lcd]

Yes, that's what one of the mods said.Let's hope we'll see It happen. ;)

[gravelman]

Rumours are that there will be a service after evry stge, if so, that is a bit disappointing

[lcd]

Finally, a drivers assists on/of option for DiRT3!
Gamesradar hands-on article:
http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/dirt-3/preview/dirt-3-hands-on-preview/a-20101117104240578041/g-20100803111331782068

[lcd]

DiRT3 Kris Meeke Interview:
Jc1twMelusU

[Blazquez]

Rumours are that there will be a service after evry stge, if so, that is a bit disappointing

Already fixed that i told the developers , and they said its an early concept so it can be changed!

[MrJan]

Rumours are that there will be a service after evry stge, if so, that is a bit disappointing

I never get the fuss about this sort of thing. If it bothers you that much then just don't repair the car in every service.

[lcd]

I never get the fuss about this sort of thing. If it bothers you that much then just don't repair the car in every service.

Mr Jan, splendit Idea. :eek:

[lcd]

Fresh news from Paul Coleman on twitter about rally stages:

'We have 32 Rally stages. 8 stages per location.
The routes are all different but some sections of them have small bits of reuse.
Rally Stages are around 5-6km. Trailblazer stages are around 8-9km'

[lcd]

First of all, sorry for the long rank, but I think, at this point of time, It would be useful to sum up the most Important Info
about the rallying of DiRT3,based on Paul Coleman's answers on Twitter. Sorry If I missed a couple of things http://community.codemasters.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif Enjoy!

Stages
-We have some reversals and some overlap between rally stages.We avoid reusing the same bit of road as much as possible.
-Our rally stages will be full of thrills and spills including some big crests and jumps.
-We have 8 Stages per rally location and these will have a good variety of speed, technical sections and jaw dropping scenery.
-We take 32,000 research photos of each location in the game to allow us to recreate the environments as closely as possible.
-We have a web of routes in each location, some sections of these webs are reused
but we try and keep this to a minimum.
-Rally events will make up approximately 60% of the career mode.This is reflected in the number of tracks for each discipline.
-We have Finland, Norway, Kenya and Michigan as our Rally Locations.Finland & Michigan will have rain.Norway will have snow
and Kenya will be dry. They will all have night stages.
-Finland & Michigan will have dry weather too.Norway will not be snowing sometimes but will always have snow on the ground.
-Every rally stage will have night and day variations and a selection of weather and lighting appropriate to the location.
-We are looking into other classic rallies for D3.Kenya and Finland & Norway are classic rally stages though.
-Our stages will be a variety of lengths. Some will be sprint stages while others will be longer tests.
-We won't have the Pikes Peak track in DiRT3 but we have a great selection of vehicles that have raced up Pikes Peak.
-There will be some tarmac sections on Michigan & Finland.
-Our rally stages will have some narrow technical sections as well as the fast flowing high speed sections.
-Trailblazer will go uphill and downhill.There is a nice Kenya hillclimb and some of the Norway stages are really sweet.
-For our rally stages we have some tricky tight hairpins that you really have
to slow down for.
-Rally Stages are around 5-6km.Trailblazer stages are around 8-9km. Our circuits are shorter loops with 1minute laps.

Physics
-We have different tyre types available which will affect how the cars handle on different surfaces.
-Our cars have Tarmac,Gravel and Snow specifications and you can tweak the set-up to suit your driving style.
-We will use the improved Ego Racing engine for all disciplines.There will be a selection of assists that novice drivers can turn on.
-We have further improved our physics engine in DiRT3.Weight shift plays a more important role in setting the car up for a corner.
-We have improved all our surface physics to accurately represent wet conditions.Snow will require a new driving style to perfect.

Cars
-We have chosen many of the cars that Colin drove throughout his career for DiRT 3.
-We have a decent selection of Rear Wheel Drive classic cars from the 60s , 70s & 80s.
-We have modern & classic Hillclimb cars and the awesome Group B cars in DiRT 3.We have Rally cars from the 1965 through to 2011.
-All cars on our night stages will be fitted with light rigs/bars to help with visibility.

Pacenotes
-The professional co-driver is George Gwynn.He has co-driven in some WRC events. His expertise is invaluable.
-We have updated our system so that it adjusts the delivery of the call to the pace at which the player is attacking the corners.
-The calls are read in a professional style.
-We are developing a system that automatically adjusts the speed of the pace note delivery according to the speed you are driving.
-Because the stages are designed for hillclimb cars, many of which don't have codrivers,we chose not to have calls for Trailblazer

Online
-We have some ideas that we are working to encourage players to be less aggressive when competing online.
-You should be able to download and then time trial with ghosts of friends aswell as the world best.

Sound
-Our Audio Engineers went to Kemble Airport yesterday to record engine and exhaust audio.

Front end
-The User Interface has been redesigned for D3.It is really starting to take shape but its too early to give anything away.
-We are bringing rally back to the forefront and we will work from there.
-We are going for a more stylised menu system in DiRT3 It is coming together really nicely and suits our more professional approach.

Misc
-You'll be able to put your name on the rear side windows of the cars.
-We are adding a cool feature to our replays in DiRT 3 that allows you to upload you favorite moments directly to YouTube.
-We will have the staggered start system in our rally stages so you will see other competitors as you race the stage.
-You'll be able to practice the stages,work out a set-up and store it ready for competitive rally. We won't have shake-downs though.
-We are investigating other rally locations that could be added as downloadable content.
-We will not have a livery editor in D3.We want players to focus on the racing.We would like to include it in future titles though.
-Head2Head events are our equivalent of Super Special Stages.They are stand alone events with a multi-round knockout format.
Winner of each round progresses.They will not be part of the rally events.
-You will enter the service area before every stage.There you can set up your car, choose your assists and get stage info.
-Rally Events in DiRT3 will use total stage times to determine the finishing positions.
-We have made improvements to our particle effects because of the additional weather conditions.Dust will be improved too.
-We are still working on the weather systems foRr DiRT3.Fog Is one of the things we are trying to include in our stages.
-Manufacturers won't let us license the cars if they are allowed to hit people or animals. So no cows or sheep on track.
-You can run the same rally event with different classes. Some events will be limited, like historic rally with 60s' & 70s' only.
-Events like the Rally World Tour can be run in any of the nine Rally Classes.The AI will compete in the class that you select.

[pino]

Great stuff LCD :up:

[lcd]

Pacenotes update:
We will use the minimap and codriver call system.
We investigated pacenote signs but decided to focus on other features.

Misc update:
There will be custom events in DiRT3 but the weather choices will be
limited to what is available for the specific tracks.

[Allyc85]

I would have prefered to have some UK stages but the game sounds promising so far :)

[MrJan]

I hate that they don't do pacenotes for Trailblazer events. Fair enough if it's in the career mode but if I'm dicking about in free race then pace notes for that make the stages 10 times better you lazy *******s.

[pino]

I would have prefered to have some UK stages but the game sounds promising so far :)

Same here, I still can't believe Wales stages will not be in the game :crazy:

[gravelman]

I hate that they don't do pacenotes for Trailblazer events. Fair enough if it's in the career mode but if I'm dicking about in free race then pace notes for that make the stages 10 times better you lazy *******s.

No pacenotes on some of the long rallies back in the old days, just maps.

[lcd]

Physics update:
' We have improved our damage model to more accurately simulate damage.
There will be mechanical & visual damage options.'
'We are definitely looking into having flat tyres.'

[lcd]

Misc updates:

-PC requirements should be pretty similar to DiRT2. We are pushing some areas of the tech though.
-We have a system that let's some spectators stand in the stage and then run out of the way as the car approaches. No animals though.

[MrJan]

No pacenotes on some of the long rallies back in the old days, just maps.

Aah but you'd still have a co-driver shouting out what was coming up, you didn't have to keep an eye on the road and an eye on the map ;)

[lcd]

All Info up to date: (based on Paul Coleman's answers on twitter)

Stages
-We have some reversals and some overlap between rally stages.We avoid reusing
the same bit of road as much as possible.
-Our rally stages will be full of thrills and spills including some big crests and jumps.
-We have 8 Stages per rally location and these will have a good variety of speed, technical sections and jaw dropping scenery.
-We take 32,000 research photos of each location in the game to allow us to recreate the environments as closely as possible.
-We have a web of routes in each location, some sections of these webs are reused but we try and keep this to a minimum.
-Rally events will make up approximately 60% of the career mode.This is reflected in the number of tracks for each discipline.
-We have Finland, Norway, Kenya and Michigan as our Rally Locations.Finland & Michigan will have rain.Norway will have snow and Kenya will be dry. They will all
have night stages.
-Finland & Michigan will have dry weather too.Norway will not be snowing sometimes but will always have snow on the ground.
-Every rally stage will have night and day variations and a selection of weather and lighting appropriate to the location.
-We are looking into other classic rallies for D3.Kenya and Finland & Norway are classic rally stages though.
-Our stages will be a variety of lengths. Some will be sprint stages while others will be longer tests.
-We won't have the Pikes Peak track in DiRT3 but we have a great selection of vehicles that have raced up Pikes Peak.
-There will be some tarmac sections on Michigan & Finland.
-Our rally stages will have some narrow technical sections as well as the fast flowing high speed sections.
-Trailblazer will go uphill and downhill.There is a nice Kenya hillclimb and some of the Norway stages are really sweet.
-For our rally stages we have some tricky tight hairpins that you really have
to slow down for.
-Rally Stages are around 5-6km.Trailblazer stages are around 8-9km.
Our circuits are shorter loops with 1minute laps.
-We are investigating other rally locations that could be added as downloadable content.

Physics
-We have different tyre types available which will affect how the cars handle on different surfaces.
-Our cars have Tarmac,Gravel and Snow specifications and you can tweak
the set-up to suit your driving style.
-We will use the improved Ego Racing engine for all disciplines.There will be a
selection of assists that novice drivers can turn on.
-We have further improved our physics engine in DiRT3.Weight shift plays a more important role in setting the car up for a corner.
-We have improved all our surface physics to accurately represent wet conditions.Snow will require a new driving style to perfect.
-We have improved our damage model to more accurately simulate damage.
There will be mechanical & visual damage options.We are definitely looking
into having flat tyres.
-We're not doing the tyre choice now as the stages very clearly bias a specific tyre type. Other setup options are the same as DiRT2

Cars
-We have chosen many of the cars that Colin drove throughout his career for DiRT 3.
-We have a decent selection of Rear Wheel Drive classic cars from the 60s , 70s & 80s.
-We have modern & classic Hillclimb cars and the awesome Group B cars in DiRT 3.
We have Rally cars from the 1965 through to 2011.
-All cars on our night stages will be fitted with light rigs/bars to help with visibility.
-(regarding Mitsubishi Lancer WRC 2005...) I had it on the original car list but it didn't make the cut. I want to get that era of Rally cars into a future title though.
-Most of our cars have 5 liveries. One original and 4 fictional team versions. There are some special unlocks too.
-We have some livery designs that have carried over from DiRT2 but generally we've got a more professional style In DiRT3.
-The C4 will have Sebs Loeb's & Seb Ogier's liveries on it.There will be no fictional liveries on the WRC cars.
-You will also have Mikko Hirvonen's BP Abu Dhabi Ford WRT livery on the 2010 Ford Focus WRC In DiRT3.
-The Escort Mk2 liveries are finalised however the Gymkhana GRID livery didn't make the list.
-The Citroen C4 will be in the game but we haven't been able to secure Kimi's livery.
-We have between 2-5 vehicles in each car class. For example S2000 has 2 cars and RallyX has 5.

Dirt3 confirmed cars sticky thread:
DiRT3 Confirmed Cars (http://community.codemasters.com/forum/dirt-3-general-discussion-1339/421634-dirt3-confirmed-cars.html)

Pacenotes
-The professional co-driver is George Gwynn.He has co-driven in some WRC events. His expertise is invaluable.
-We have updated our system so that it adjusts the delivery of the call to the
pace at which the player is attacking the corners.
-The calls are read in a professional style.
-We are developing a system that automatically adjusts the speed of the pace note delivery according to the speed you are driving.
-Because the stages are designed for hillclimb cars, many of which don't have codrivers,we chose not to have calls for Trailblazer
-We will use the minimap and codriver call system.
We investigated pacenote signs but decided to focus on other features.

Online
-We have some ideas that we are working to encourage players to be less
aggressive when competing online.
-You should be able to download and then time trial with ghosts of friends aswell as the world best.
-You'll be able to restrict what car class is being raced. We will also have some combinations of classes. No specific cars though.
-You'll be able to choose a different car for different events in Jam Sessions.For 5 race events you will stay in one car.

Sound
-Our Audio Engineers went to Kemble Airport yesterday to record engine and exhaust audio.

Front end
-The User Interface has been redesigned for D3.It is really starting to take shape
but its too early to give anything away.
-We are bringing rally back to the forefront and we will work from there.
-We are going for a more stylised menu system in DiRT3 It is coming together really nicely and suits our more professional approach.
-We won't have any real video footage in the game. In game videos will be used for discipline tutorials (infomercials).
-We have a cool intro video lined up for DiRT3 but it is probably not going to be as over the top as the DiRT2 one.
-We are scrapping vehicle ratings for DiRT3. The Team Offers & Vehicle select screens will show Power, Weight & Drive Type.
-You'll still be able to choose an audio name in DiRT3.
We have added some new names too.
-We will have a garage area where you'll be able to view the cars.
It is shaping up to be a very cool feature.
-We won't use a map for travelling through the DiRT Tour.
In DiRT3 we have a more stylised menu system. It is looking sweet.


Race Disciplines
-Head2Head events are our equivalent of Super Special Stages.They are stand alone events with a multi-round knockout format.Winner of each round progresses.They will not be part of the rally events.
-We will have the staggered start system in our rally stages so you will see other competitors as you race the stage.
-You can run the same rally event with different classes. Some events will be limited, like historic rally with 60s' & 70s' only.
-Events like the Rally World Tour can be run in any of the nine Rally Classes.
The AI will compete in the class that you select.
-There will be custom events In DiRT3 but the weather choices will be limited to what is available for the specific tracks.
-Rally Events in DiRT3 will use total stage times to determine the finishing positions.
-You'll be able to practice the stages,work out a set-up and store it ready for competitive rally. We won't have shake-downs though.
-You will enter the service area before every stage.There you can set up your car, choose your assists and get stage info.

Misc
-You'll be able to put your name on the rear side windows of the cars.
-We are adding a cool feature to our replays in DiRT 3 that allows you to upload you favorite moments directly to YouTube.
-We will not have a livery editor in D3.We want players to focus on the racing.We would like to include it in future titles though.
-We have made improvements to our particle effects because of the additional weather conditions. Dust will be improved too.
-We are still working on the weather systems foRr DiRT3. Fog Is one of the things we are trying to include in our stages.
-Manufacturers won't let us license the cars if they are allowed to hit people or animals. So no cows or sheep on track.
-We have a system that let's some spectators stand in the stage
and then run out of the way as the car approaches. No animals though.
-We will get as many dynamic spectators as we can on the stages. We'll push the system as much as possible.
-PC requirements should be pretty similar to DiRT2. We are pushing some areas of the tech though.
-We will prevent excessive shortcuts with Level Design wherever possible. We will look into reset lines for certain cases.
-You can take photos from Replays on PS3. You'll also have a YouTube upload feature that will let you upload replays.
-We're in discussions with European drivers. More information will follow. Liam Doran is representing European Rallycross.
-We'll look into the AI behavior on Rally and Trailblazer stages.
-Dave Mirra will not be featured In DiRT3.
-I think we are giving a 3 second countdown at the start of rally stages. It will come from the marshals and the start lights.
-In DiRT3 you will be able to play most game modes in Split Screen. Rally will of course be included.

[gravelman]

Rhat sounds brilliant, seems note has been taken of our, ahem....demands!!! Encouraging to hear talk of future titles. Would be great if some of the stages formerly used on the old CMR games could be added in the future, either as DLC or as another disc that could be sold as an add on if the demand was there for it, which it clearly is. Pity Nicky Grist wasnt asked for old time sake.

[lcd]

I stongly believe that the fact rallying will be up to 60% of DiRT3, shows
CM Intentions for a new rally series, why not a sim one! ;)

[bennizw]

Paul said he would like to work on a sim once at least ;)

[lcd]

Here's a sneaky peak at Kenya rally stage...
I know, looking too wide but African stages have usually been quite wide, right?
http://twitpic.com/3ru937

[306 Cosworth]

Yep, very rare to get a narrow Kenyan stage. Particularlyas there's no real stage routes to follow, and the kenyan rally was always open roads, not closed to the public as it would've been impossible to do so.

[lcd]

Great news! Weather/Time of day options return In DiRT3!!!

Paul Coleman on twitter confirmed:
'An example of weather & lighting is as follows: Sunny, Sunset/Sunrise, Rain & Night.
So, four conditions for one stage'

Another great confirmation:
(Confirmed by Helios) 'We're pleased to confirm that DiRT 3 will support H pattern shifting, sequential shifting,
and H pattern shifting with clutch.'

[lcd]

First gameplay video from DiRT3 - Rally Kenya

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[pino]

Release date announced : 24th May...that was fast :eek:

[Allyc85]

I dont like the style of pace notes, im guessing they will end up being like proper notes (IMO) i.e. 6 left, 4 right etc?

[lcd]

Some new screens and previews:

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6737/5415174053512c1c9028z.jpg (http://img192.imageshack.us/i/5415174053512c1c9028z.jpg/)


http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/3425/5415785356f168266ee9z.jpg (http://img703.imageshack.us/i/5415785356f168266ee9z.jpg/)


onStart - DIRT 3 Preview | onPause (http://www.onpause.org/2011/02/onstart-dirt-3-preview.html)

InsideSimRacing - Watch Video (http://www.insidesimracing.tv/videos/view/410/0/Inside-Sim-Racing-Episodes)

[AndySpeed]

How wide are those stages?!?

[MrJan]

Good graphics but otherwise that looks ****. The pacenotes are just awful (watched half the Kenya stage before hearing anything other than an 'easy' corner) and you simply couldn't drive flat out just on notes.....well actually you probably could because the physics engine looks pretty much the same as Dirt2.

[GallardoGT]

How wide are those stages?!?

Check out the interview with lovely Jessica Lopez of simracingtonight you will see that the Finland stages are quite wide. But the graphics are very nice. Hope the physics will be better although it's far away from Richard Burns Rally.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im_ZKp1Vuy0

[MrJan]

Jessica Lopez of simracingtonight

She the one with the big tits?

[lcd]

Finland Trailblazer track gameplay!

VW5NQu32XPY

[lcd]

A very Interesting comment of Codemaster's Paul Coleman on twitter:
'...With a good wheel setup on some of our tighter stages our physics feel very realistic. If you liked RBR then you'll enjoy D3.'

[Japé]

Coleman must have very black sense of humour.

D3 will use same physics engine than D2. From videos we can see, there is nothing realistic on physics what so ever, nothing is enough close to even compare to RBR. What comes to tracks, I got best laughs while I watched some D3 preview / interview, where developer said something like; We didn't make real stages because those are boring :D . Could you believe iRacing or even F1 2010 developer saying something like; We didn't make Monza, because it is boring - instead we made this fantasy track with some tunnels, loops and jumps.. ?

[lcd]

Paul's answer regarding the future of CM games after DiRT3:
'It was described as the last in a trilogy. I'd say we'll be making more rally games
in the future after DiRT3 http://community.codemasters.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif'

[lcd]

Here's a summary of all answers given by Paul Coleman of Codemasters via twitter, regarding the rallying In DiRT3.

STAGES

Rally events will make up approximately 60% of the career mode.This is reflected in the number of tracks for each discipline.We have Finland, Norway, Kenya and Michigan as our Rally Locations.Finland & Michigan will have rain.Norway will have snow and Kenya will be dry.They will all have night stages. Finland & Michigan will have dry weather too.Norway will not be snowing sometimes but will always have snow on the ground.We have 8 Stages per rally location and these will have a good variety of speed, technical sections and jaw dropping scenery.We have some reversals and some overlap between rally stages.We avoid reusing the same bit of road as much as possible.Our rally stages will be full of thrills and spills including some big crests and jumps.Our stages will be a variety of lengths.Some will be sprint stages while others will be longer tests.There will be some tarmac sections on Michigan & Finland.Our rally stages will have some narrow technical sections as well as the fast flowing high speed sections.For our rally stages we have some tricky tight hairpins that you really have to slow down for.Rally Stages are around 5-6km.Trailblazer stages are around 8-9km.The Trailblazer routes do have awesome hairpins but they are longer sweeping bends unlike the rally stages which have tighter ones.Trailblazer will go uphill and downhill.There is a nice Kenya hillclimb and someof the Norway stages are really sweet.We have some sprint stages that are around 2 minutes and longer stages that are up to 4 minutes long.We have Rally World Tour events that allow you to compete in multi stage events in all the Rally vehicles classes.Because we have the deformable snow banks we have been able to tighten up the stages to give that intense Norway feel.Only Norway and Aspen will have snow. They are the only environments that are set up for it.Every rally stage will have night and day variations and a selection of weather and lighting appropriate to the location.

CARS/LIVERIES/DRIVERS

We have Rally cars from the 1965 through to 2011.We have a decent selection of Rear Wheel Drive classic cars from the 60s , 70s & 80s.We have modern & classic Hillclimb cars and the awesome Group B cars in DiRT 3.We have a couple of classic Front Wheel Drive cars and loads of Rear Wheel Drive cars from the classic & modern eras.We have some livery designs that have carried over from DiRT2 but generally we've got a more professional style In DiRT3.We don't have any vehicle grades in DiRT3.So all vehicle classes are at their maximum potential.We will have some smaller cars in DiRT3 like the Classic Mini Cooper but we don't have any JWRC style cars this time out.We have between 2-5 vehicles in each car class.All cars on our night stages will be fitted with light rigs/bars to help with visibility.Most of our cars have 5 liveries.One original and 4 fictional team versions.There are some special unlocks too.The 2010 and 2011 WRC cars will have their official liveries in DiRT3.The C4 will have Sebs Loeb's & Seb Ogier's liveries on it.We will only have Hirvonen's and Block's liveries on the 2011 Ford Fiesta RS WRC.(regarding the Mini Countryman) I still can't give a full confirmation on this yet but we are very close to sealing the deal. On the licensed liveries the co-driver's name will be represented on the livery where appropriate.We plan to have the Peugeot 207 and the Fiat Grande Punto Abarth as our S2000 Rally Cars.The Subaru 555 is based on the car that Colin won his World Championship in.For the 555 we'll make a livery for Colin.We also have the Rally America Fiesta Ken used last year & the Pikes Peak Fiesta that Marcus Grönholm used in 2009.We will still have Travis' Subaru livery but he won't be one of the drivers in DiRT3.Rallycross cars are as follows: RS200, 6R4, Impreza N13, Evo X, Mk7 Fiesta and Pailler Motorsports Peugeot 207 T16 4x4. The Group B cars will race in Rally and RallyX.Raid vehicles will feature as part of Rally events.The Hummer is still in there.We have adjusted the handling to make them more nimble.We have some pretty crazy Hillclimb cars in theTrailblazer class.The confirmed drivers are Ken Block, Kris Meeke,Tanner Foust & Liam Doran.Liam Doran is representing European Rallycross.Tanner Foust will be, representing RallyX.

[lcd]

PHYSICS

We have further improved our physics engine in DiRT3.Weight shift plays a more Important role in setting
the car up for a corner.We have improved all our surface physics to accurately represent wet conditions.
We have added a bunch of settings to the suspension to allow us to more accurately model how the car behaves
in DiRT3.With a good wheel setup on some of our tighter stages our physics feel very realistic.If you liked RBR then you'll enjoy D3.We're pleased to confirm that DiRT 3 will support H pattern shifting, sequential shifting, and H pattern shifting with clutch.Snow will require a new driving style to perfect.We have different tyre types available which will affect how the cars handle on different surfaces.Our cars have Tarmac,Gravel and Snow specifications and you can tweak the set-up to suit your driving style.Tarmac will have big rims & wide tyres. Gravel will be medium with heavy treads and Snow will be narrow with studs / spikes.We will use the improved Ego Racing engine for all disciplines.There will be a selection of assists that novice drivers can turn on.We have ABS, traction control & a visual racing line.We also have a breaking assist and a throttle assist to really help newcomers. The visual line will change dynamically based on your speed.With all the assists turned off, the handling will be slightly more challenging in DiRT3 than It was in DiRT2.We have improved our damage model to more accurately simulate damage.There will be mechanical & visual damage options.We are definitely looking Into having flat tyres.We have increased the amount that mechanical damage affects performance.Damaging the turbo and exhaust will affect the engine.We now have a system that allows the player to get punctures.If you drive on the tyre will eventually shred off the rim.You can either continue to drive on your rims and lose time or restart the stage.Downforce will still be adjustable in DiRT3.It will have more of an effect on the Trailblazer cars as they have bigger wings.Damage to bodywork will affect downforce and therefore grip.

[lcd]

PACENOTES

The calls are read in a professional style.The professional co-driver is George Gwynn.He has co-driven in some WRC events. His expertise is invaluable.We have updated our system so that it adjusts the delivery of the call to the pace at which the player is attacking the corners.We will use the minimap and codriver call system.We investigated pacenote signs but decided to focus on other features.You can choose between complex and simple call styles and you can choose whether you use the male co dirver or Jen Horsey. Player controlled pacenotes are something we always consider when designing DiRT games. If we can get it right we'll add it.The complex co driver calls that you have put together for DiRT3 really are some of the best that we have ever had.

WEATHER SYSTEM/TIME OF DAY

We are still working on the weather systems for DiRT3.All disciplines will have a selection of weather conditions and time of day.Our environments have seen improvements in shaders & lighting. We have weather effects such as snow & multiple times of day.Yes, we will have fog in DiRT3.It should help make some of our stages even more intense. Fog could never really set in over the duration of one of our stages as they are about 4 minutes long.It will be foggy throughout the stage. It will only occur on our snow stages.An example of weather & lighting is as follows: Sunny, Sunset/Sunrise, Rain & Night. So,four conditions for one stage (Regarding night stages visibility)It depends on where you are.In some stages you will see silhouettes of the trees and mountains against the night sky.Rain will affect each surface.Mud,Gravel,Tarmac,Grass etc.will become more slippery.We can't do Night & Snow and Night & Rain using the current tech.Maybe we can do something in future titles.We plan to have areas of standing water.Snow will be built up on the side of the track in snow banks.On the outside of corners they will often be deformable.

[lcd]

SOUNDS

Our Audio Engineers & Designers are hard at work taking the sound recordings and putting them onto the cars
in the game.Our audio engineers made a special effort to record the effect of gravel & mud hitting the underside of the car.They went out with Rally and Rallycross drivers and recorded the sound effects from inside the car as it was driven at speed.The turbos chatter and we get some nice popping from the overrun. We also have a cool wobble on the revs. We recorded a rather special MK2 just for this game.

MISC

We have a system that let's some spectators stand in the stage and then run out of the way as the car approaches. We're working on a crowd system that will shout in the style of the country you're racing in.They'll also have air horns. No animals though.We will get as many dynamic spectators as we can on the stages.We cannot show the car hitting spectators.They will be protected by reset lines that will place the car back on track if hit.We will prevent excessive shortcuts with Level Design wherever possible.We will always have some auto reset lines in our stages.Those will often be placed to prevent cheating and crashing into the crowd of spectators.We try and minimise them.We will let you crash where it is possible but we can't let you see the edge of the world I'm afraid.I think we are giving a 3 second countdown at the start of rally stages.It will come from the marshals and the start lights.In DiRT3 you will be able to play most game modes in Split Screen.Rally will of course be included.System requirements should be pretty similar to DiRT2. Snow and mud will affect your vision but it will not affect your ability to chase someone down and pass them.The cars have also seen improvements in material shaders such as carbon fibre and weather effects like beading water drops. Effects include:Motion Blur,Tone Mapping,Lens Flare,Digital Distortion,Depth of Field and Dynamic Interactive Water.We also have Fully dynamic deferred lights (for night only),Tessellated deformable snow (used for deeper snow)and High Quality Cascaded.For DX11 only we have Screen Space Ambient Occlusion and Contact Hardening Shadows Shadows. We are adding a cool feature to our replays in DiRT 3 that allows you to upload your favorite moments directly to YouTube.PS3, Xbox 360 & PC will all have the YouTube upload feature.In DiRT Tour we use the name you put into your profile select in the window of the car.Online it uses your PSN id or Gamertag.On the licensed liveries the co-driver's name will be represented on the livery where appropriate.(regarding nicknames )We have got Colin in there this time though.We have worked on a helicopter style camera in our replays.It only works in certain locations though.We have a helmet camera.We have worked on how it reacts to the cars movement during cornering and over bumps & jumps. You'll be able to go back to your last replay in the menus but you won't get an archive.(about DiRT3) It was described as the last in a trilogy. I'd say we'll be making more rally games in the future after DiRT3...

[lcd]

-Only the Mitsubishi Evo X will be In DiRT3. As a Rally, RallyX and Gymkhana car.
-We do have the Lancia Delta HF Integrale Rally car in the game.
-Spectators at a start would get in trouble with the marshals if they're in the track there. We'll put them in where possible though. It's actually more about putting the crowds in places that make sense and areas where they can get out of the way to safety. We aim to push the tech as far as we can for DiRT3, using the Group B videos as reference but its unlikely to get all the way.
-There have been improvements to the lighting and particles which really make the locations and tracks come alive.
-The Raid vehicles will have staggered starts so you will see other vehicles on stage but it will be the time that counts.Raid events in the real world take place with staggered starts which is why we have made the change.
-Our leaderboards are per vehicle class. So Group B, Raid etc. will have their own leaderboard for each Rally Stage.

[lcd]

'Keep It real' video, focused on cars physics/handling.

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[lcd]

-'You can tweak: Gear Ratio, Downforce, Suspension, Ride Height, Differential and Brake Bias to suit your driving style.'
-'We want the service area in DiRT3 to work like you're talking to an engineer rather than tweaking the parts yourself.
It isn't set up in a garage area like the D2 menus. The car is parked up on the stage and the menu appears to the side of it.'
-'The voting system will be similar to DiRT2. You'll be able to veto discipline first followed by track choice.'
-'Disciplines are as follows: Rally, Trailblazer, RallyX, Head 2 Head, Landrush & Gymkhana. Raid is a vehicle class within Rally now.'

[lcd]

Paul Coleman of Codemasters, posted on twitter a photo, followed by this comment:
'Just got home to find the first part of a new project I'll be embarking on once DiRT3 Is complete.'

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4528/mz4iv.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/mz4iv.jpg/)

What could that possibly mean? :rolleyes:

[bennizw]

Are we looking at a new official game from the British rally championship? Considering the fact that the books are from the MSA?

[lcd]

Don't know Benniz...But something's on the schedule after D3 for sure.

[bennizw]

And it seems to be UK located, so hopefully rallying!

[lcd]

Here's a teasing new comment from Paul:

'This is something I will be doing in my own time but you can consider it 'embedded research' for the next game.'

[MrJan]

It means that he's got his navigator's license and will most likely just be getting a bit of hands on experience. I wouldn't read too much into it.

[lcd]

(Based on CM Paul Coleman's answers on twitter)

-Your tyres will react to the road surface and flex according to the load that is applied to them.
-Tyre blowouts occur after you have taken wheel/tyre damage and you get a puncture. Continue to drive and the tyre shreds off the rim.
-Single player game modes will have 7 opponents competing against you in all disciplines.
-We have four types of online party modes lined up for DiRT3.

[lcd]

Here's a new short Interview with Paul Coleman (Codemasters)

Dirt 3: Developer Interview Video - Xbox 360 - IGN (http://uk.ign.com/videos/2011/03/07/dirt-3-developer-interview)

[MrJan]

(Based on CM Paul Coleman's answers on twitter)

-Your tyres will react to the road surface and flex according to the load that is applied to them.
-Tyre blowouts occur after you have taken wheel/tyre damage and you get a puncture. Continue to drive and the tyre shreds off the rim.
-Single player game modes will have 7 opponents competing against you in all disciplines.
-We have four types of online party modes lined up for DiRT3.

Tyre blowouts?!! Wow! Codemasters have managed to resurrect a feature that they had in CMR2 :rolleyes:

[lcd]

(Based on CM Paul Coleman's answers on twitter)

-Finland will have rainy gravel stages for Rally and Michigan Smelter will have Gravel / Muddy Rallycross stages.
-Damage in Hardcore will be the same as having damage turned on in the Single Player. You'll be able to terminal damage in Hardcore.
-You'll get pacenotes in Raid as they are on the Rally tracks.
-There will be a significant drop in visibility when the light rig falls off the front of the car.
-All the Monaco RallyX and Head 2 Head tracks are full tarmac surfaces. The other RallyX events will be mixed surfaces.
Smelter will be Tarmac, Mud and Gravel and Aspen will be snow and Ice.

[306 Cosworth]

Can't wait to finally drive some all tarmac stages again :D

[lcd]

(Based on CM Paul Coleman's answers on twitter)

-The RWD 80s cars are the Manta 400, Sierra RS500 & Renault 5.

[lcd]

(Based on CM Paul Coleman's answers on twitter)

-I can confirm that the Rally Classes are: WRC, Open, S2000, 90s, Group B, 80s RWD, 70s, 60s and Raid.
-We have a load of Ford cars in the game and they all have official liveries.
-You'll be pleased to hear the Ford Escort RS Cosworth will be in DiRT3.
-We kinda have a Holden Gemini in the 70s Rally class.It is an Opel Kadette.
-I believe there is somewhere in the region of 40 to 50 non rally events and 60-70 rally events.
-We've made the call to make our night stages even darker. Night rally stages are back!

Kris Meeke Kenya rally srpint video:
3L6yAwWObv0

[MrJan]

Nice to see that there's no explosions and fireworks across the line, that was a **** feature of Dirt2. As it's just RS Cossie I take it that's the one with the whaletail rather than the WRC?

It's also interesting seeing Meeke using an H-pattern with clutch and left foot braking, he really seems to approach games in quite a serious way.

[lcd]

First shots of snow races:

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/228/670x3f77image.jpg (http://img36.imageshack.us/i/670x3f77image.jpg/)

http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/7982/670x377image.jpg (http://img862.imageshack.us/i/670x377image.jpg/)

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/1984/e670x377image.jpg (http://img849.imageshack.us/i/e670x377image.jpg/)

[pino]

Codemasters Interview (http://www.nowgamer.com/features/1279/dirt-3-codemasters-interview?o=0#listing)

:D

[bennizw]

The S1 Quattro Hill Climb shot is a new one!

[lcd]

Group B lives on...In DiRT3!

_2gwGg1Oblw

[Allyc85]

Want, now!!

[MrJan]

I was playing Dirt2 yesterday and I really hope that they get rid of the 'amusing' comments from the co-driver. I don't think they will though, the *******s :D

[lcd]

(Based on Paul Coleman's of CM answers via twitter)

-We have a Hyundai powered car in the game but it is not a conventional Hyundai model.
-We have the Audi Sport Quattro and the big winged Pikes Peak special in DiRT3.
-We have the Castrol Toyota Celica GT4 ST205 in the game not the ST185.
-We've got 6 Subarus. Three Rally, one RallyCross and two Gymkhana variants.
-The 3-sided geometry correlates with the fact that this is DiRT3.
Style wise we 're going for somewhere between D1 & D2 menus.
-We change the weather between stages rather than during a stage.
The stages aren't long enough to justify dynamic weather.
-Some of the lights in the environment will cast dynamic shadows at night but the headlight
proved to be too expensive to do.
-Split Screen will be local only. We are looking at On-line Split Screen for future titles.
-If the car is dusty / muddy and it drives through water , the water will clean the car.

[lcd]

I was playing Dirt2 yesterday and I really hope that they get rid of the 'amusing' comments from the co-driver...

I asked Paul about that;here's his actual words:

'Our co-drivers have some reaction speech but they are more motivational. Things like "keep pushing"'

[MrJan]

I asked Paul about that;here's his actual words:

'Our co-drivers have some reaction speech but they are more motivational. Things like "keep pushing"'

Yeah that irritates me too, it's all so phoney and cheap. Like when you're just about to start a stage and he says "out of the way, champion coming through'. Takes far more away from the gaming experience than it adds IMO.

[lcd]

...Like when you're just about to start a stage and he says "out of the way, champion coming through'...

That's from WRC2010 title though, but I agree, such co-drivers comments sound very childish Indeed.

[lcd]

Some new screens! Enjoy!
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/589/20860121392842862314114.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/i/20860121392842862314114.jpg/)

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/6772/20644521392869195644814.jpg (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/20644521392869195644814.jpg/)

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http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/5582/20860121392843195647414.jpg (http://img843.imageshack.us/i/20860121392843195647414.jpg/)

[pino]

Thanks lcd, I really can't wait to play this game :D

[Allyc85]

I think we should be getting quite a good hands on preview of the game in the next few days ;)

[lcd]

(Based on Paul Coleman's of CM answers via twitter)

-We have the FIAT 131 Abarth in the 70s Rally Class.
-We couldn't secure the Alitalia livery for the 131 Abarth so we have gone with the Olio FIAT Blue & Yellow livery.
-Each rally location has 8 unique stages. These are then used to make a variety of rally events in the DiRT Tour.
-We don't have reversed stages however the routes share sections of road.
-We won't have an edit pacenote feature. The calls will be given later or earlier depending on how fast you are traveling.
-(regarding day/night stages percentage) At a guess i would say that 25-30% are at night.
-(regarding Gymkhana location)We looked at El Toro Airbase but it was a little too sparse. Using Battersea gave us the chance to create our our own area.

[lcd]

Kris Meeke community Interview video:

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[lcd]

First photos of DiRT3 Gymkhana Uncovered event @ Battersea PowerStation Presentation earlier today:

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[lcd]

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[lcd]

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[lcd]

Mikko can Gynmkhana!!!

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[lcd]

(Based on Paul Coleman's of CM answers via twitter)

-We have snow and ice rallycross races at Aspen.
-We have the Renault 5 Turbo and the Renault Alpine A110 in DiRT3.
-There are tarmac, snow and gravel default setups. Gravel is down the middle. Tarmac is harder and snow is softer.

[pino]

Can't believe finally I will be able to drive the 2 legendary car Alpine A110 and Lancia Fulvia in a rallygame :bounce:

[lcd]

DiRT3 night stage:

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[lcd]

(Based on Paul Coleman's of CM answers via twitter)

-The hairpins are varied throughout DiRT3. Norway and Michigan have some pretty tight hairpin bends.
-I can confirm that the other WRC driver that we have in DiRT3 is Sébastien Ogier.
-Reset lines won't change from what you have seen. We want the racing to be the most important thing. Crashing is less important.
-To be fair we put a lot of effort into finding cuts that actually allow you to go faster. Some cuts just don't save time so we allow them.

[lcd]

Here's a new screenshot of another location (Michigan) will be featuring In the game:

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[lcd]

Here's another Kenya stage, never seen before (It starts after Gymkhana finishes)

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[lcd]

Hope those options, give this time, a more sim feeling for DiRT3:

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9035/5602795464db431b9ab6z.jpg

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/3443/56027983360ac419e1e5z.jpg

[lcd]

Snow rally In DiRT3!!!

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[lcd]

Here's another rally location (Michigan-USA)

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[Allyc85]

Got to love the sound of the turbo chirping away!

Wheres the best place to pre-order this?

[pino]

Love that sound too, as for the stage, nice but it's too wide for my liking :p :

[lcd]

A fan made re-make of the DiRT 3 Group B trailer:

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[lcd]

Here's a quick glance at the menus!

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[lcd]

More snow gameplay:
As you can notice, the co driver's style and the wide hairpins remind a lot of WRC2010.

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[lcd]

Split screen feature:

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[MrJan]

Wow, look everyone, it's Colin McRae:ArCADE. Roads are far too wide, is that a video of them supposedly on the Monaco GP track? It's like a 4 lane motorway.

And why have they taken the wide hairpin thing from WRC? This franchise is now all style and no substance, the cars look and sound great but what's the point in having all these great heros of rallying and then putting them on stupidly wide roads. I remember back in CMR2 (and even a few of the others, before DiRT) where you wouldn't have much more than a cars width to drive in. The Kenyan and Aus stages in CMR2 were a nightmare if you went even slightly off line, and the Indo stages from the first game were superb.

[Allyc85]

That Monet Carlo style stage is rediculous, why do games have to be ruined by making them playable for simpletons?!

[JasonPotato]

Dirt was ruined after the first one which i would like to say i was world no.1 on :) for a few months anyway before is topped playing it.

[Daniel]

Wow, look everyone, it's Colin McRae:ArCADE. Roads are far too wide, is that a video of them supposedly on the Monaco GP track? It's like a 4 lane motorway.

And why have they taken the wide hairpin thing from WRC? This franchise is now all style and no substance, the cars look and sound great but what's the point in having all these great heros of rallying and then putting them on stupidly wide roads. I remember back in CMR2 (and even a few of the others, before DiRT) where you wouldn't have much more than a cars width to drive in. The Kenyan and Aus stages in CMR2 were a nightmare if you went even slightly off line, and the Indo stages from the first game were superb.

Couldn't agree more. I hate games which are designed purely to flatter people.

[tolis]

So, one more month (28 days) till the official release of the game?

[lcd]

Yes, 24th May Is the day! ;)

Meanwhile, a couple of new updates, form CM Paul Coleman's twitter:

-The No Fear Gold livery is in the game.
-I believe there is somewhere in the region of 40 to 50 non rally events and 60-70 rally events.
-The 3-sided geometry correlates with the fact that this is DiRT3. Style wise we 're going
for somewhere between D1 & D2 menus.
-There will be a load between each stage but you won't return to lobby.
-Snowy stages in Norway and Aspen have a fog effect that reduces visibility.
-There are wet stages without the rain actually falling.
-Wet surfaces will have less friction than their dry counterparts.
-I can confirm that the other WRC driver that we have in DiRT3 is Sébastien Ogier.
-We have taken place names from the locations where our stages are set and used them to name our stages.

[gravelman]

any word on narrower tracks or is that the final edit of the game in the videos??

[lcd]

any word on narrower tracks...?

Not quite;It's reported there will be some narrow sections though, spread around all rally stages.

[Daniel]

Any word on when Codemasters are going to stop dragging Colin's name through the turd and release a rallying game?

[Allyc85]

What like this one then?

[306 Cosworth]

Any word on when Codemasters are going to stop dragging Colin's name through the turd and release a rallying game?

This game has nothing to do with McRae, and is without doubt the best rally game to be released for consoles. I've played this and it is brilliant.

[306 Cosworth]

Something interesting i've also found out, when playing this game online, if you (or the lobby host) chooses to do 5 rally stages then the winner will be the one with fastest total time, unlike DiRT2 where you just had 1 stage sprints and fastest time over a stage won. Will certainly make it much better knowing that if you make a mistake on 1 stage you can still win overall.

[MrJan]

This game has nothing to do with McRae, and is without doubt the best rally game to be released for consoles. I've played this and it is brilliant.

That's a pretty bold statement, bearing in mind that it's up against things like CMR2 and RBR. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but they had a lot of work to do to turn around DiRT2 and make a proper rallying game.

[Daniel]

Something interesting i've also found out, when playing this game online, if you (or the lobby host) chooses to do 5 rally stages then the winner will be the one with fastest total time, unlike DiRT2 where you just had 1 stage sprints and fastest time over a stage won. Will certainly make it much better knowing that if you make a mistake on 1 stage you can still win overall.

306, I remember meeting you at the Cambrian last year on a proper stage, remember how narrow it was compared to the stuff in DiRt?

Here's a picture to job your memory.

http://oi52.tinypic.com/2gvn0cw.jpg

No doubt it's a fun enough game to play, but it's so far removed from rallying and so geared towards making little twirps think that they're actually doing a good job it's not funny. I'm not going to hold Forza 3 up as an example of a perfect game because it's not, but at least the Nordschleife is still as narrow as it is in real life and practically impossible to pass in most parts.

[Daniel]

This game has nothing to do with McRae, and is without doubt the best rally game to be released for consoles. I've played this and it is brilliant.

I seem to have made an error talking about Colin's name, but they called the first two Colin McRae dIRt so by association this one is also.

[lcd]

DiRT3 seems to be the most rally game we can get at the moment...
Far better than DiRT2 and much closer to the traditional rallying format.
Let's wait for Milestone's answer with WRC2011.

Afterall, those 2 companies are the only developers, Investing on rally games these days!

[MrJan]

http://oi52.tinypic.com/2gvn0cw.jpg

How did you get that effect? Seems different from the usual 'slow shutter speed and pan' technique that I use.

[306 Cosworth]

That's a pretty bold statement, bearing in mind that it's up against things like CMR2 and RBR. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but they had a lot of work to do to turn around DiRT2 and make a proper rallying game.

Sorry it should've said current gen consoles. Nothing in my eyes will beat CMR2 :D

[Daniel]

How did you get that effect? Seems different from the usual 'slow shutter speed and pan' technique that I use.

I think it's just one of those weird photos that looks a bit unreal. It was just a normal panning shot with a 1/60th shutter speed and everything else on auto :) Annoyingly I'd spent most of the stage on the other side of the road and only took a few photos from that side of the road.....

[MrJan]

Sorry it should've said current gen consoles. Nothing in my eyes will beat CMR2 :D

In that case it's not a very bold statement at all :p : It's basically like saying "It's better that DiRT" :D


I think it's just one of those weird photos that looks a bit unreal. It was just a normal panning shot with a 1/60th shutter speed and everything else on auto :) Annoyingly I'd spent most of the stage on the other side of the road and only took a few photos from that side of the road.....

Yeah definitely looks slightly unreal, almost like you've 'shopped it in some way. Good shot though :up:

[lcd]

New trailer here:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-demons-dirt-3/713421

[Allyc85]

Last night I pre-ordered my copy for the xbox 360 from Amazon! Roll on the end of the month :)

[lcd]

New rally shots:

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http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/4922/screenshot18721.jpg (http://img859.imageshack.us/i/screenshot18721.jpg/)

[bennizw]

The incar view looks stunning! Hopefully the horrible HUD can be turned off!

[Allar]

why is this game under simulations theard? looks bad!

[lcd]

Don't count on the looks-the gameplay Is what matters. ;)
CM have said, this time, they are moving closer to a sim feeling than ever before,
so maybe DiRT3, deserves a place among the rest rally/racing games In this thread.

[lcd]

Some great footage here:

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[mAxL]

DLC Announced


Originally Posted by Gamestar.de
Dirt 3 - DLC coming shortly after the release of the racing game

The publisher Codemasters wants the Off-Road Racing Dirt 3 rely more on DLC content.

By Julian Freudenhammer |
Date: 05/09/2011, 14:52 clock

Shortly after the release of Dirt 3 of 24 May, should the first DLC pack for paid download to be available. The "Monte Carlo Track Pack" contains eight running stages around the Rally Monte Carlo. The new tracks are both single player and multiplayer mode available for. In addition to these "Track Packs" Codemasters also plans to "Car-pack" vehicles will include the new.

The first "Car Pack" to the racing game as a bonus Pre, which traders participate in action is not yet clear. The so-called " super-team pack "includes four additional racing events and four new racing team, consisting of a total of 14 vehicles.

[lcd]

The above article/ dlc announcement, Isn't officially confirmed...yet! :p

Paul Coleman -DiRT 3 Senior Game Designer- stated on twitter:

'I can't confirm anything at this stage. What I can say is that we have some DLC planned you'll have to wait and see what that is.There might be some bonus stuff day 1 but nothing substantial.'

[pino]

Dirt3 forum is down at the moment...can we expect any surprise ? :s

[Daniel]

No, probably just hosted by Sony. DLC's are great when psn is down :rotflmao:

[lcd]

Now, here's a message from Paul Coleman to Motosportforums fans :

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'I hope that some of the people on that forum are happy with what we have done in DiRT3. We shall have to see ;)
Maybe some of the comments from Inside Sim Racing will encourage them. They'll be announced soon ;) '

[pino]

Tell him we are happy and will be more happy when they will release a DLC with Wales, Montecarlo and Sanremo tracks and more rallycars ( Stratos included) :D

[lcd]

I'm sure he will be checking on here... ;)

[pino]

No, probably just hosted by Sony. DLC's are great when psn is down :rotflmao:

Daniel, get lost :p :

[Daniel]

Pino, buy a 360

[pino]

Pino, buy a 360

Noway, I am quite happy with my PS3...unless you will buy it for me :p :

[Daniel]

I'll buy a copy of dirt3 for us both so we can play online together. Oh wait...... :p

[lcd]

New footage here from spaziogames.it...
can't really tell If the comments are good;maybe pino could help a little here :D

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[mAxL]

http://www.shrani.si/f/3i/Dk/37y3jwIU/dirt.jpg

[lcd]

Well, It seems Darin from InsideSimRacing had some hard times during that race :p

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[lcd]

GameSpot preview:

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[bennizw]

God I hope that Monte Carlo package exists!

[pino]

Well, It seems Darin from InsideSimRacing had some hard times during that race :p

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Oh my God the sound is just amazing, really can't wait for this game !!! :bounce:

[pino]

New footage here from spaziogames.it...
can't really tell If the comments are good;maybe pino could help a little here :D

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Yes the comments are very positive, they are impressed with everything apart from the car weight (too light).

[bennizw]

As it was in the previous game.

[Rallylegend]

Well, It seems Darin from InsideSimRacing had some hard times during that race :p

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Only 1 little negative thingie... WHY THE HELL IS THAT LITTLE puppet in the car.... thats such a developing waste..and i never saw it in any rally or rallycross car before.... =(

But over all it looks really great

[lcd]

Yes the comments are very positive, they are impressed with everything apart from the car weight (too light).

Have In mind, cars are quite light In RBR too. ;) So, that might not be so negative afterall.
Indeed the car sound+ effects are so raw and aggressive. :)

[lcd]

New footage from InsideSimRacing. It's about drifting this time...
Not a great fan though... :p

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[Allyc85]

Only 1 little negative thingie... WHY THE HELL IS THAT LITTLE puppet in the car.... thats such a developing waste..and i never saw it in any rally or rallycross car before.... =(

But over all it looks really great

Agreed, that little toy is rediculous, why the hell would someone think its a good idea to include it in a rally game?!

[Daniel]

Agreed, that little toy is rediculous, why the hell would someone think its a good idea to include it in a rally game?!

Perhaps it's all part and parcel of "rally racing"? I dunno.

[MrJan]

They had them in Dirt2, little trinkets to put on the dash, along with stupid horns, all part of the "wooo, extreme dooood" aspect that DC and Ken Block brought to the game. For a start it's hardly a big issue and, secondly, it's more than likely optional :)

[Daniel]

They had them in Dirt2, little trinkets to put on the dash, along with stupid horns, all part of the "wooo, extreme dooood" aspect that DC and Ken Block brought to the game. For a start it's hardly a big issue and, secondly, it's more than likely optional :)

It would be nice if they stopped calling it Colin McRae DiRT yet Ken Blockificating it.

[MrJan]

It would be nice if they stopped calling it Colin McRae DiRT yet Ken Blockificating it.

Yeah, Pastrana in the first Dirt game was sort of passable because it still remaind largely about rallying. All this she-ite about Trailblazer is annoying though, give me some bloody pace notes!!!

[Daniel]

Yeah, Pastrana in the first Dirt game was sort of passable because it still remaind largely about rallying. All this she-ite about Trailblazer is annoying though, give me some bloody pace notes!!!

Yeah I bought DiRT 1 because it was still mainly a rallying game and I switched off for the stadium truck stuff. The graphics were nice and all but the handling left me a little cold I guess.

[lcd]

New In game footage from VVV:

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Everything looks and sounds great...just that there will be an Issue,
regarding stages length, as you can see for yourself...
CM have promised some longer stages, but my guess Is that most of them they will be similar to the above.

[lcd]

VVV new preview videos (rally + rallycross):

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Another stunning Finland stage, but again too short... :(

[bennizw]

I really hope 1 1/2 minute stages don´t take up a majority of the game. If so, it´s even worse than WRC 5.

[pino]

I really hope 1 1/2 minute stages don´t take up a majority of the game. If so, it´s even worse than WRC 5.

I've started a thread on Codies forum about this, hopefully they will take it as a constructive critic ;)

[lcd]

I twitted Paul Coleman, to confirm If the majority of stages In the game are so short,
and how many stages of each country, are over 1:20!!!

(Keep In mind, that after some practice, time for those short stages, will drop down to around 1min...)

[pino]

Can't believe WRC3 has some very long stages and we can't have a few 7/8 km stages in Dirt3 :s

[Daniel]

Can't believe WRC3 has some very long stages and we can't have a few 7/8 km stages in Dirt3 :s

Perhaps the target market don't have the attention span?

"Moooooooooooooooooom! Make the rally racing game stop being so long and realistic!!!!" :(

[pino]

" I would be asleep if stages were 8 min long " that's a quote from Codies forum :s Personaly I start to get warm after driving the first 2 min...how can someone fall asleep ?

[Daniel]

" I would be asleep if stages were 8 min long " that's a quote from Codies forum :s Personaly I start to get warm after driving the first 2 min...how can someone fall asleep ?

They're not into rallying obviously :) The thing with DiRT games is that the handling is fairly innocuous so as long as you don't try to go too fast around the corners you're not likely to have problems, boring.

[MrJan]

Long stages also give you a good option if you have an off. With really short stages you make one mistake and that's it, whereas with a proper stage you can be 5 seconds down at the first split but then hammer it through to be up by the finish. It's so disappointing, I even feel that a 3 minutes stage is too short so to have one under 2 minutes is just pointless. Proof again that Codemasters are talking **** when they say that they're bring the franchise back to proper rallying.

[Daniel]

Long stages also give you a good option if you have an off. With really short stages you make one mistake and that's it, whereas with a proper stage you can be 5 seconds down at the first split but then hammer it through to be up by the finish. It's so disappointing, I even feel that a 3 minutes stage is too short so to have one under 2 minutes is just pointless. Proof again that Codemasters are talking **** when they say that they're bring the franchise back to proper rallying.

Proper rally racing maybe :laugh:

I'll admit there simply isn't a market for a proper hardcore rallying game. If they did turn DiRT into a proper rallying game then little 13 year olds would be crying into their Monster because they can't make it through the first corner.

[MrJan]

But there is a trade off, CMR2 was a fairly decent rally game and that sold well (I think). The stages still weren't quite as long as a lot of us would hope but at least there was only 1 or 2 stages out of 11 (per country) that was under 2 minutes.

[Daniel]

But there is a trade off, CMR2 was a fairly decent rally game and that sold well (I think). The stages still weren't quite as long as a lot of us would hope but at least there was only 1 or 2 stages out of 11 (per country) that was under 2 minutes.

and short stages are a part of it as well. It's nice to have a manic sprint :)

[pino]

Proper rally racing maybe :laugh:

I'll admit there simply isn't a market for a proper hardcore rallying game. If they did turn DiRT into a proper rallying game then little 13 year olds would be crying into their Monster because they can't make it through the first corner.

Sad but true...

[Bruce D]

Can you imagine what these people would think of Rally Championship 2000 nowadays? Pundershaw was a 43km+ stage that took literally over 20min to complete and it was in poor conditions most of the time. Actually that whole Pirelli Rally was really tough to get through in one piece and Scotland was a really challenge.

[lcd]

DiRT3 damage system video:

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[Daniel]

DiRT3 damage system video:

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What about the penalty system? I saw some people do some stuff in that video on a Finnish stage which I'm sure would get you excluded from the rally or get a few race bands.

More info please.

[lcd]

I twitted Paul Coleman, to confirm If the majority of stages In the game are so short,
and how many stages of each country, are over 1:20!!!

No response so far;Paul usually responds very quickly...I guess you can Imagine why.
Regarding penalties, nothing's mentioned so far and I don't really think there will be any.
Such things sound very 'hardcore' to CM Daniel. :D

[Rallylegend]

" I would be asleep if stages were 8 min long " that's a quote from Codies forum :s Personaly I start to get warm after driving the first 2 min...how can someone fall asleep ?

This is something that i really dont understand from codemasters.... they want rally back,... oke they took the cars back.... but again where are the rules?
By the rules this time i mean stage length... okej i can understand not every one want to drive 10 min long.... but to be honestly in fact , rally stages in real are 8-10 min long...just accept this, beside that u got 5 rewind things! i mean u can drive at least 2 min w/o rewind, i mean thats not so hard isnt it? And beside that it DOES make the gameplay longer...

And the long stages makes the sport again so excited! I mean u can lose minutes whit a flat tire or a broken steering wheel.. and that is where its all about in rally.... Drive as fast as possible from A to B with as less damage as possible ... and the fastest wins the rally! with just 1 min stage its not even challenging specially whit 5 rewinds AND after each stage a service..... this isnt like a rally game because u will drive everything perfect...... sad but true... and yes u can ignore the service and yes u dont have to use the rewinds... but i am talking in name of the rally sport and u should reserved in its value.

Its such a shame... Codemasters got the perfect things... they got good developed cars, a Handling system for Sim and arcade drivers! , changing weather systems ( in F1) what they should use on the 8 min rally stages, they got the information from the Professional rally drivers, the graphic engine is fantastic! they got the good car sounds...

but where its all about " the rally rules / stage ..." that just the thing that what they missed... sadly its the important thing off all ... Sometime i am asking myself when does Codemasters awake from this dream and just accept that rally = long stages and not just look at the 13 years old kids that cant play longer then one and a half min stages with 3 rewinds in it...

I am not talking about a SIM stage, with the real environment and the very narrow stages.... but just about the lenght

[Daniel]

No response so far;Paul usually responds very quickly...I guess you can Imagine why.
Regarding penalties, nothing's mentioned so far and I don't really think there will be any.
Such things sound very 'hardcore' to CM Daniel. :D

Well if someone came up alongside another driver at NORF and pushed them off the road I'd expect a ban OR have they invented some stupid thing where rally race each other on a stage. VTEC kicked in yo! :rolleyes:

[Daniel]

This is something that i really dont understand from codemasters.... they want rally back,... oke they took the cars back.... but again where are the rules?
By the rules this time i mean stage length... okej i can understand not every one want to drive 10 min long.... but to be honestly in fact , rally stages in real are 8-10 min long...just accept this, beside that u got 5 rewind things! i mean u can drive at least 2 min w/o rewind, i mean thats not so hard isnt it? And beside that it DOES make the gameplay longer...

And the long stages makes the sport again so excited! I mean u can lose minutes whit a flat tire or a broken steering wheel.. and that is where its all about in rally.... Drive as fast as possible from A to B with as less damage as possible ... and the fastest wins the rally! with just 1 min stage its not even challenging specially whit 5 rewinds AND after each stage a service..... this isnt like a rally game because u will drive everything perfect...... sad but true... and yes u can ignore the service and yes u dont have to use the rewinds... but i am talking in name of the rally sport and u should reserved in its value.

Its such a shame... Codemasters got the perfect things... they got good developed cars, a Handling system for Sim and arcade drivers! , changing weather systems ( in F1) what they should use on the 8 min rally stages, they got the information from the Professional rally drivers, the graphic engine is fantastic! they got the good car sounds...

but where its all about " the rally rules / stage ..." that just the thing that what they missed... sadly its the important thing off all ... Sometime i am asking myself when does Codemasters awake from this dream and just accept that rally = long stages and not just look at the 13 years old kids that cant play longer then one and a half min stages with 3 rewinds in it...

I am not talking about a SIM stage, with the real environment and the very narrow stages.... but just about the lenght

It's the typical thing. They'll have nice looking graphics, slick looking videos, you'll get the game and play it for a week and get bored before you finish the career mode.

Then there'll be a big announcement. DiRT 4 is coming! We've listened to what you want and we now have even more historic cars which handle more or less the same as each other despite being rather different back in the day! There's more stages for your rally racing fans and for the people who don't have the skill to drive a stage in a decent time, we've now invented supergymkhana which is a mode where you do donuts around a guy on a segway, get shot by a dude with a paintball marker and get to take an endless amount of takes at each individual section of your video. Once you have completed the driving part you can edit your video to have moody slo mo shots of your driving, once finished editing our patented cluelessteenwho'sneverevendrivenacarorseenaproperW RCevent engine will Mark you on how well your video would impress someone with an IQ of 12 on Youtube. cOlIn mCrAe DiRt 4.0 (putting a .0 after the number makes it cooler btw) will be available in the fall of 2012 and will be available on PS3, XBox 360, Wii and on PC with a crapload of DRM. There will also be a deluxe version with playable segway and paintball modes. The Wii Gold Deluxe version will include Segway and paintball marker controller attachments.

Seriously, **** off Codemasters and stop raping the Colin McRae name and just call it DiRT and stop claiming that it's anything to do with rallying at all. Call it Ken Block DiRT if you want to, just stop using Colin's name like this and stop making crappy games with little to do with rallying and pretending that they're rallying games.

P.S If you do launch a game as crap as the one that's mentioned and steal my mock press release I'll freaking sue you.

[MrJan]

Umm, Daniel: http://www.play.com/Search.html?searchtype=allproducts&searchsource=0&searchstring=dirt

They have dropped the McRae name...thank god. Although I still think that they should have made a completely seperate title, so that it's really distanced.

[Daniel]

Umm, Daniel: http://www.play.com/Search.html?searchtype=allproducts&searchsource=0&searchstring=dirt

They have dropped the McRae name...thank god. Although I still think that they should have made a completely seperate title, so that it's really distanced.

http://www.codemasters.co.uk/games/index.php?gameid=2012 = "Colin McRae DiRT Official UK Homepage"

They've half dropped the McRae name, but not completely.

[Rallylegend]

http://www.codemasters.co.uk/games/index.php?gameid=2012 = "Colin McRae DiRT Official UK Homepage"

They've half dropped the McRae name, but not completely.

if they drop it or not, they have one thig left to do... and that is to make a REMAKE game called Colin McRae Rally 2.0 to honor Colin McRae , the same game but now whit latest grafics, better looking modeld cars and stages, and a very big honor to Colin McRae! and ofcourse whit all the Rally cars in the game where Colin Drove whit...

Something the same what they did whit Duke Nukem , just a very good remake to honor it. ;)

[Mark]

No sir. You are not correct at all.

What they do need to do is remake the original Colin McRae Rally - the original and still the best.

I remember playing CMR2 for the first time and being taken aback as they'd ruined a fantastic game.

[Rallylegend]

No sir. You are not correct at all.

What they do need to do is remake the original Colin McRae Rally - the original and still the best.

I remember playing CMR2 for the first time and being taken aback as they'd ruined a fantastic game.

it doesnt really what cmr rally game it will be as long as they just do it =D

[MrJan]

No sir. You are not correct at all.

What they do need to do is remake the original Colin McRae Rally - the original and still the best.

I remember playing CMR2 for the first time and being taken aback as they'd ruined a fantastic game.

Well that's just wrong. CMR2 is miles better, the stage design is streets ahead...and you get to drive a 6R4.

[Mark]

What, sort, ultra wide stages - nah. If you like arcade games I suppose.

[MrJan]

What, sort, ultra wide stages - nah. If you like arcade games I suppose.

eh? The Rally GB stages are fantastic and certainly not very wide.

[Daniel]

Sega Rally 2 is better than both (joing of course! :p )

[Iain]

CMR 2.0 was awesome. Especially the British stages.

I'll get DIRT 3 no matter what other people think. I'm not 17 anymore with endless time to sit in front of a console and do some hardcore gaming for 5/6 hours. I mainly use my XBox to pass the time, pick it up for a quick game when I'm bored. That'll do for me.

[pino]

CMR 2.0 was awesome. Especially the British stages.

I'll get DIRT 3 no matter what other people think. I'm not 17 anymore with endless time to sit in front of a console and do some hardcore gaming for 5/6 hours. I mainly use my XBox to pass the time, pick it up for a quick game when I'm bored. That'll do for me.


Welcome back to the forum :up: :p :

[lcd]

Mini does Monaco :D

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[pino]

I would've prefered the Turini...hopefully it will be in a DLC ;)

[MrJan]

(Based on Paul Coleman's of CM answers via twitter)

-We have a Hyundai powered car in the game but it is not a conventional Hyundai model.
-We have the Audi Sport Quattro and the big winged Pikes Peak special in DiRT3.
-We have the Castrol Toyota Celica GT4 ST205 in the game not the ST185.
-We've got 6 Subarus. Three Rally, one RallyCross and two Gymkhana variants.
-The 3-sided geometry correlates with the fact that this is DiRT3.
Style wise we 're going for somewhere between D1 & D2 menus.
-We change the weather between stages rather than during a stage.
The stages aren't long enough to justify dynamic weather.
-Some of the lights in the environment will cast dynamic shadows at night but the headlight
proved to be too expensive to do.
-Split Screen will be local only. We are looking at On-line Split Screen for future titles.
-If the car is dusty / muddy and it drives through water , the water will clean the car.

Take it that'd be this one then:

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[pino]

The stages aren't long enough to justify dynamic weather :down: (hate this) :p :

[AndySpeed]

http://www.codemasters.co.uk/games/index.php?gameid=2012 = "Colin McRae DiRT Official UK Homepage"

They've half dropped the McRae name, but not completely.

What you've done there is link to Dirt 1 anyway.

At present I don't think I'd buy Dirt 3, and I currently have Dirt 2, Grid and F1 2010. I'm more interested in a Grid 2. Dirt 3 just doesn't look different enough and I agree it needs longer stages.

[Allyc85]

A couple short vids..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb3VlAXYUfk&feature=feedu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hxhs_wEmKUg&feature=feedu

Not long now :D

[lcd]

Rally Finland-rain:

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[Allyc85]

Eurogamer review. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-05-20-dirt-3-review

[pino]

Nice one...2 more days waiting :D

[christophulus]

I'm pre-loading this on Steam (PC) as we speak. Can't wait til Tuesday :D

[306 Cosworth]

Seriously, **** off Codemasters and stop raping the Colin McRae name and just call it DiRT and stop claiming that it's anything to do with rallying at all. Call it Ken Block DiRT if you want to, just stop using Colin's name like this and stop making crappy games with little to do with rallying and pretending that they're rallying games.

P.S If you do launch a game as crap as the one that's mentioned and steal my mock press release I'll freaking sue you.

I know you have a bit of common sense going by your other forum posts, but it seems you clearly can't read. The McRae name has NOTHING to do with Dirt 3, this was announced in August 2010 was Dirt3 was announced. And why link to the 1st DiRT game page which was made when Colin was still alive :rolleyes:

This game has lots to do with rallying, but in no way have CM said or pretended that it is solely a rally game. Everyone knows that this game has other off road racing disciplines, as well as the introduction of Gymkhana which is actually quite good fun.

[Daniel]

What does it say here?

http://www.codemasters.co.uk/games/index.php?gameid=2012

[Allyc85]

That its for Dirt 1, this is the page for Dirt 3 with no mention of Colin McRae...

http://www.codemasters.co.uk/games/?gameid=3237

That was hard...

[306 Cosworth]

That link says Colin McRae: DiRT

Available 15th June 2007 :crazy:

[Daniel]

OK I'll admit that's a fail. **** game still :D

[Allyc85]

I cant believe you got to play it before us :(

;)

[Iain]

My pre-order has been dispatched. :D Hopefully have it waiting when I get in from work tomorrow.

[pino]

The long wait has started...

:D

[pino]

Game just arrived...time to play now :s mokin:

[bennizw]

Some quick thoughts from me. I had a couple of hours with the game yesterday.


* Sound: Great work sound technicians! I´m loving the sound of the cars hitting the rev limiter over jumps or at the start of stages.

* Handling: Not bad, but I find it too grippy, at least on the dry. You almost don´t have to use the brakes, and there is basically no point of doing scandinavian flicks, as it just makes you slower. I drove a Finland stage in the wet with the Peugeot 207 yesterday, that started to feel good. I have tried different setups to try and make the car go sideways (stiff diff, rear brake bias etc.), but it´s not working out completely. On the other hand, I really like the handling in the Gymkhana mode. Having a lot of fun throwing the car around the compound.

* Stages: Still too short for my liking, even the longer ones. Most of these are finished within 2:30-2:50 minutes, which I find too short. On the other hand, great stage design, but still a little bit too wide roads in most places.

That´s all for now.

[pino]

First impression is that both graphics and sound are fantastic, as for the handling it's too early to judge but shouldn't be a problem. And yes I wish stages were much longer but we can still hope on the DLC's ;)