Schumacher !!! Should he call it quits

[steveaki13]

No bother - 42.651% of all statistics are made up! ;)

:p : But only 291.4% of people believe that.

[555-04Q2]

For once the majority are right :D 70 plays 68.

[555-04Q2]

71 plays 68 :)

[airshifter]

I voted a few weeks back finally and said no he should not retire. If he is still enjoying it and he has a team that wants him, he should stay in it.

I was glad to see him do well in Canada and it's a shame he didn't get on the podium. And though some people will say this proves he still has it, he is beating Rosberg, etc, consider this.

With his excellent race in Canada he is 1 point ahead of Kobayashi.

[woody2goody]

I voted a few weeks back finally and said no he should not retire. If he is still enjoying it and he has a team that wants him, he should stay in it.

I was glad to see him do well in Canada and it's a shame he didn't get on the podium. And though some people will say this proves he still has it, he is beating Rosberg, etc, consider this.

With his excellent race in Canada he is 1 point ahead of Kobayashi.

That might say more about Kobayashi than Schumi.

[ioan]

Looks like Mercedes want him to stay, and there is even a chance that there will be a contract extension:

autosport.com - F1 News: Haug hails Schumacher's performance (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/92346)

Fousto's nightmares continue! :D

[BDunnell]

Looks like Mercedes want him to stay, and there is even a chance that there will be a contract extension:

autosport.com - F1 News: Haug hails Schumacher's performance (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/92346)

I do find Mercedes' attitude towards Schumacher curious. The desperation to defend him goes beyond anything I can recall. One good performance and suddenly he is Mercedes' man for years to come, apparently, as though no other drivers of calibre will materialise during that time. And, as much as I have always had much time for Norbert Haug, his comment that Schumacher's race in Canada was him 'at his best' is quite laughable. He drove very well, certainly, but by the standards of his comeback, not his best during his years of dominance.

[steveaki13]

Fousto's nightmares continue! :D


:laugh:

[ioan]

I do find Mercedes' attitude towards Schumacher curious. The desperation to defend him goes beyond anything I can recall. One good performance and suddenly he is Mercedes' man for years to come, apparently, as though no other drivers of calibre will materialise during that time. And, as much as I have always had much time for Norbert Haug, his comment that Schumacher's race in Canada was him 'at his best' is quite laughable. He drove very well, certainly, but by the standards of his comeback, not his best during his years of dominance.

12th to 2nd withing a dozen of laps in wet conditions, then defending in the dry against DRS enhanced competitors with better cars on a track with 2 DRS zones one of them very very long in a dog of a car it's great performance and Haug knows it well.

[Daniel]

12th to 2nd withing a dozen of laps in wet conditions, then defending in the dry against DRS enhanced competitors with better cars on a track with 2 DRS zones one of them very very long in a dog of a car it's great performance and Haug knows it well.

I think what ben is saying is that the Schuey of old would have won.

[ioan]

I think what ben is saying is that the Schuey of old would have won.

Impossible, you can not defend against cars that are 1 second a lap faster anyway and also have DRS advantage for almost 1 km/lap. You all know I would have loved it to see him do it, but I knew it that it will not be possible, still great driving from MS, he gave his team some hopes for the future.

[steveaki13]

One thing that showed Schumacher is still complete with his race brain was after the last restart. On all 3 or 4 previous restarts everyone fell miles behind Vettel and were left for dead.

On the last one, Michael stayed right with Vettel and went down the outside. He got that just right.

[Daniel]

Impossible, you can not defend against cars that are 1 second a lap faster anyway and also have DRS advantage for almost 1 km/lap. You all know I would have loved it to see him do it, but I knew it that it will not be possible, still great driving from MS, he gave his team some hopes for the future.

Personally I think back in the day Schuey would have won. Just my opinion Ioan :)

[ioan]

One thing that showed Schumacher is still complete with his race brain was after the last restart. On all 3 or 4 previous restarts everyone fell miles behind Vettel and were left for dead.

On the last one, Michael stayed right with Vettel and went down the outside. He got that just right.

There's a reason why they always feared him when they saw the Ferrari in their mirrors! ;)

[ioan]

Personally I think back in the day Schuey would have won. Just my opinion Ioan :)

Sure in the days when there was no DRS.

[steveaki13]

I don't think when DRS was activated, that Michael had a chance of finishing anywhere other than 4th. DRS made Button and Webber almost certain to pass.

[DexDexter]

I found myself cheering for Michael in Canada and during his first career I couldn't stand him. Weird, ain't it? I wonder if anybody else feels the same?

[Daniel]

I found myself doing the same thing. It would have been great to have had him on the podium with Jenson and Seb. :)

I was reeeeeeally annoyed when I realised he wouldn't be on the podium. You could see it in Michael's eyes too, he was bloody sad.

[i_max2k2]

(http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=94) http://www.motorsportforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by aki13 http://www.motorsportforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.motorsportforums.com/f1/139061-schumacher-should-he-call-quits-post933547.html#post933547)
One thing that showed Schumacher is still complete with his race brain was after the last restart. On all 3 or 4 previous restarts everyone fell miles behind Vettel and were left for dead.

On the last one, Michael stayed right with Vettel and went down the outside. He got that just right.
(http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=94)

I think he was the only one who actually came close to overtaking, vettel, if he was in a car which was not as slow, he perhaps could have done it.


So whats happened to Schuey? We're repeatedly told by the team and his fans that he is as fit as he ever was and his age is not a factor. Back in the day we were used to him being able to outdrive a car and drag it beyond where it deserved to be, yet he's struggled for one and a half seasons? His drive in Canada was mighty impressive and was the best since his comeback IMO, but not every race is going to be wet from now on. Rosberg has shown the pace of the car in the dry and its DRS is possibly the best on the grid. Why is Michael unable to take advantage of these factors? Tyres can't be an issue because he's changed tyre manufacturers more times than half the grid have had hot dinners. He's had over a year to develop his current car so whats missing, Rory Byrne? I hope he continues to improve but I had hoped he'd be mixing it up at the front abit more often by now. :)

Well do we know how quickly does a human body looses its ability to be at the maximum, in any sport, if any person, goes off for a while, it takes a while to come back to the same level, we are looking at someone who went out of F1 for 3 years, and then came back in a car which was not to his liking. So if he actually took say a year and a half to find even 60% of his old self, thats not bad at all, and we really dont know how much of a equal he is if we compare to how he was in Brazil 06. In my opinion even in Monaco, he was doing very well, perhaps now he is now getting comfortable in the car. In the past he was in a Ferrari from the time it was conceived till its very end, I mean a car year after year designed very closely to what he would like, Mercedes w01 was no where close to that, but he was still competitive in it, he was still very close to rosbergs times. I think he is more comfortable with this car, and I dont think Nico was doing as well as Michael in Canada or Monaco at any stage. I dont think we are being fair in comparing him with his old performances, when he was in competitive racing since a child.

[schumacher7championships]

this year schumi is better because of one simple reason.mercedes is better

[SGWilko]

this year schumi is better because of one simple reason.mercedes is better

I also think the old boy is getting a bit more comfortable in the car.

[schumacher7championships]

I also think the old boy is getting a bit more comfortable in the car.

i think that if you put schumi in the team that produces drinks,as the victim of racism,lewis,said, he absolutely could be first in the championship

[BDunnell]

I think what ben is saying is that the Schuey of old would have won.

Not really — rather, that the notion of this having been him at his best is just a piece of present-day spin, only of interest to those who have either (a) short memories, or (b) those whose pro-Schumacher propaganda reminds me of the Iraqi information minister's efforts in the run-up to the 2003 war. Had this been Schumacher at his best, he would have won. This is a driver for whom second was not good enough. As it was, he finished fourth. It was a performance that would barely have rated a mention in his heyday compared with what he did actually achieve.

[airshifter]

That might say more about Kobayashi than Schumi.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a big supporter of Kobayashi. But he is in a lesser car than the Mercedes, and still only 1 point behind. MS is tied with his team mate, who is without doubt a good driver. But I don't see Rosberg at the very top of the field either. This leads me to the reality that MS isn't the driver he used to be.

And as I said above, this has no effect on my thought that if Mercedes wants him to stay and he is happy with it, he should stay. I just feel his best days are behind him, and I'm not going to get my hopes up over a single good race result.

[The Black Knight]

Not really — rather, that the notion of this having been him at his best is just a piece of present-day spin, only of interest to those who have either (a) short memories, or (b) those whose pro-Schumacher propaganda reminds me of the Iraqi information minister's efforts in the run-up to the 2003 war. Had this been Schumacher at his best, he would have won. This is a driver for whom second was not good enough. As it was, he finished fourth. It was a performance that would barely have rated a mention in his heyday compared with what he did actually achieve.

The Schumi of old would not have won that race. Very unlikely. You seem to be forgetting Spa 2005 a wet race and he finished third if my memory serves me correctly. He was by a mile the quickest Bridgestone runner that day. If you don't have the machinery to win you simply can't do it. And with dopey DRS there was no way he could have ever kept Button and Webber behind till the end of the race.

What a mighty performance it was to be right on the rear wing of Webber as he crossed the line though. Ouststanding. I really, really hope he can keep this form up. He was doing brilliantly in Monaco compared to Rosberg as well. I can't wait to see how he does in Valencia. He needs to start outqualifying Nico more too.

[The Black Knight]

I found myself cheering for Michael in Canada and during his first career I couldn't stand him. Weird, ain't it? I wonder if anybody else feels the same?

Perhaps because during his first careeer, despite you hating him, he still gave you massive entertainment and last Sunday reminded you of that...

He most definitely deserved a podium on Sunday. Such a shem he didn't get it.

[odykas]

I was reeeeeeally annoyed when I realised he wouldn't be on the podium. You could see it in Michael's eyes too, he was bloody sad.

Are you an M$ fan now, Denial? :p :

[Daniel]

Are you an M$ fan now, Denial? :p :

I've always liked M$ :p You still an M$ fan tOdy? :D

[odykas]

Ja http://urduplanet.com/images/smilies/tooth.gif

[SGWilko]

Ja http://urduplanet.com/images/smilies/tooth.gif

Is that Ja, as in OK Ja?

Jolly hockey sticks what what? ;)

[Mia 01]

Ja http://urduplanet.com/images/smilies/tooth.gif
Hi there odykas. Members from my country is most of the time right.

And, Ms drove really well last race, sad he didn´t make it to the podium.

[ioan]

And as I said above, this has no effect on my thought that if Mercedes wants him to stay and he is happy with it, he should stay. I just feel his best days are behind him, and I'm not going to get my hopes up over a single good race result.

Agree.

[ioan]

Ja http://urduplanet.com/images/smilies/tooth.gif

Good you mention it a I was getting worried that might not be the case anymore! :D

[odykas]

Business as usual :|



7 Nico Rosberg +1:38
17 Michael Schumacher +1 lap

[pino]

I voted yes and I still think he should retire as a prefere to remember how good he was...whilst at Ferrari ;)

[steveaki13]

Alot of opinions seem to change every race depending on a good race performance or bad one. Lets wait and see

[ioan]

Alot of opinions seem to change every race depending on a good race performance or bad one. Lets wait and see

Nah, Ody never liked MS, au contraire.
Pino was only lukewarm about him, and only halfheartedly supported him due to MS driving for Ferrari.

So nothing changed. ;)

[i_max2k2]

Alot of opinions seem to change every race depending on a good race performance or bad one. Lets wait and see

This. Canada was probably the moment, when he looked the best in that car yet, this week his pace was same or better with Rosberg, we shouldn't decide in 2 races.

[intheway]

I see Schumacher's comeback as a positive - he's doing a great job of ignoring the press and all the other detractors, and showing great persistence and strength of character. No way should he quit - all that would be lost.

[BDunnell]

I see Schumacher's comeback as a positive - he's doing a great job of ignoring the press and all the other detractors, and showing great persistence and strength of character. No way should he quit - all that would be lost.

I'm afraid I fail to see why it would matter if all that were lost. It's not as if he's the only driver capable of showing great persistence and strength of character. There are many legitimate reasons that could be cited in favour of him staying on, but those, I'm afraid, don't really stack up.

[The Black Knight]

Alot of opinions seem to change every race depending on a good race performance or bad one. Lets wait and see

Exactly. Most people don't realise how difficult it is to return to the pinnacle of a sport after 3 years absence. Imagine Federer if he took 3 years off, played no tennis and then decided to return to Wimbledon. A lot of big noise would be made about it to sell papers I'm sure but he would never be the same.

The thing I admire about Schumacher the most is that he is convinced he can be WDC again. There have been clear signs of improvement over the last few races. He was on course for outqualifying Rosberg this weekend too if it wasn't for a moment in the last corner. Ok the Schumi of old wouldn't have made that mistake but MS is working on it.

In the end he is doing a really good job in the last few races. He isn't as bulletproof as before but he is slowly reattaining the speed he once had. For a 42 year old he is doing an incredible job.

[Retro Formula 1]

This. Canada was probably the moment, when he looked the best in that car yet, this week his pace was same or better with Rosberg, we shouldn't decide in 2 races.

How many races do you people need. It's always another 1, or another 2, or another season.

Face it, he was not that good over the last few years of his career and he's shocking now with the occasional reasonable race.

[CaptainRaiden]

He should just pack up and leave already. There are much, much better drivers Mercedes could get for half the money. Bad investment for them IMO.

[The Black Knight]

How many races do you people need. It's always another 1, or another 2, or another season.

Face it, he was not that good over the last few years of his career and he's shocking now with the occasional reasonable race.

There's a general rule that people use in sport and that's that it will take you equal amount of time you've had off to get back to top form. If this is the case we should expect to see Schuey in Mercedes for another 2 seasons after this at least ;)

[i_max2k2]

How many races do you people need. It's always another 1, or another 2, or another season.

Face it, he was not that good over the last few years of his career and he's shocking now with the occasional reasonable race.

Its actually how many races does Mercedes need, and from how it looks, they are satisfied with his performance, of course your not, but you also dont have access to the information they do. He was 0.009 seconds slower then Rosberg in qualifying, a racing incident with petrov, caused his race to be the way it was. A race ago he looked much better then most of the grid in Canada, I dont even need to look at the data to say, he should stay. Neither do the majority of people voting on this thread.

And from his last race in Ferrari, I remember, he went from last to 4th, which in my opinion was a clear showing of how good he was when he left. I dont think he was too bad in his last few years.

[555-04Q2]

How many races do you people need. It's always another 1, or another 2, or another season.

Face it, he was not that good over the last few years of his career and he's shocking now with the occasional reasonable race.

Well when Mercedes produce a competitive car, we can all comment not only on The Shoe but also Rosberg. For now, solid performances for a 42 year old.

[The Black Knight]

Its actually how many races does Mercedes need, and from how it looks, they are satisfied with his performance, of course your not, but you also dont have access to the information they do. He was 0.009 seconds slower then Rosberg in qualifying, a racing incident with petrov, caused his race to be the way it was. A race ago he looked much better then most of the grid in Canada, I dont even need to look at the data to say, he should stay. Neither do the majority of people voting on this thread.

And from his last race in Ferrari, I remember, he went from last to 4th, which in my opinion was a clear showing of how good he was when he left. I dont think he was too bad in his last few years.

Repped brother.

He wasn't the Schumacher of old when he left Ferrari either but he was still better than the rest of the field. This is why Alonso rated him to be one of his biggest rivals this season. It was a silly mistake iwth Petrov alright. It's a shame he didn't outqualify Nico, he seemed to have the pace on him for sure in quali.

[52Paddy]

If it was Heidfeld or similar producing the same results as Schumacher in that car, would we be wanting him out? I doubt it.

It's probably been mentioned before.

[Retro Formula 1]

Well when Mercedes produce a competitive car, we can all comment not only on The Shoe but also Rosberg. For now, solid performances for a 42 year old.

I'm not saying the Merc is the best car out there but lets not slag it off too much. It was a Championship winning car when Schumacher jumped in it and Rosberg is getting results.

At least he's doing better this year against his team mate with about 3/4 of his points as opposed to only managing 1/2 of his points last year. At this rate, Schumacher will be on his top form next year and might manage to match Nico.

[The Black Knight]

I'm not saying the Merc is the best car out there but lets not slag it off too much. It was a Championship winning car when Schumacher jumped in it and Rosberg is getting results.

At least he's doing better this year against his team mate with about 3/4 of his points as opposed to only managing 1/2 of his points last year. At this rate, Schumacher will be on his top form next year and might manage to match Nico.

Ah come on now. The 2010 Merc was far from a championship winning car. The Brawn GP car was a championship winning car.

[Retro Formula 1]

Ah come on now. The 2010 Merc was far from a championship winning car. The Brawn GP car was a championship winning car.

They are one and the same :confused:

Let me rephrase it. The car that Schumacher had in 2010 was more than capable of at least getting on the podium and was derived from the Championship winning car driven by Jenson on 2009.

We hear so much from Schumacher fans that the mighty Schumy can take a mediocre car and win races with it but he's not in a mediocre car. He's in car that is capable of getting on the steps.

[The Black Knight]

They are one and the same :confused:

Let me rephrase it. The car that Schumacher had in 2010 was more than capable of at least getting on the podium and was derived from the Championship winning car driven by Jenson on 2009.

We hear so much from Schumacher fans that the mighty Schumy can take a mediocre car and win races with it but he's not in a mediocre car. He's in car that is capable of getting on the steps.

They are not the same thing and that is clearly obvious to even the biggest dunce. The 2010 car was nowhere near as competitive as the 2009 car.

Schumacher certainly wasn't capable of getting on the steps last year with that car except maybe in one or two races such as Spain or Japan but other than that he certainly wasn't because either he didn't perform at expected levels or the car didn't.

Do you honestly believe the Mercedes in Valencia was capable of getting on the steps? Not a chance.

[Retro Formula 1]

They are not the same thing and that is clearly obvious to even the biggest dunce. The 2010 car was nowhere near as competitive as the 2009 car.

I didn't say that the 2010 car was as competitive as the 2009 car but merely it was derived from a very successful car and achieved podiums with Rosburg in 2010. Before wading in with accusations of Duncehood, it may pay to read what is actually posted to avoid appearing foolish?


Schumacher certainly wasn't capable of getting on the steps last year with that car

My point exactly but his young team mate managed it OK. The same team mate that was going to be destroyed?


except maybe in one or two races such as Spain or Japan but other than that he certainly wasn't because either he didn't perform at expected levels or the car didn't.

Do you honestly believe the Mercedes in Valencia was capable of getting on the steps? Not a chance.

Who said anything about Spain? All I said was that some Schumacher fans used to claim he could win races in a Minardi.

[ArrowsFA1]

It was a silly mistake iwth Petrov alright. It's a shame he didn't outqualify Nico...
If this was the Schumacher of old we were talking about then such silly mistakes, and being outqualified by a team-mate would not be mentioned because they would not be happening.

If it was Heidfeld or similar producing the same results as Schumacher in that car, would we be wanting him out? I doubt it.
Expectations are rather different though aren't they. Schumacher came to Mercedes with the reputation of being able to build a team around him, motivate that team, and produce winning performances and championships. Of course that takes time but for one thing Mercedes were the defending champions when he joined, and time is something Schuamcher does not have much of in terms of his F1 career.

[The Black Knight]

I didn't say that the 2010 car was as competitive as the 2009 car but merely it was derived from a very successful car and achieved podiums with Rosburg in 2010. Before wading in with accusations of Duncehood, it may pay to read what is actually posted to avoid appearing foolish?



My point exactly but his young team mate managed it OK. The same team mate that was going to be destroyed?



Who said anything about Spain? All I said was that some Schumacher fans used to claim he could win races in a Minardi.


You said they were one in the same...


They are one and the same :confused:

Let me rephrase it. The car that Schumacher had in 2010 was more than capable of at least getting on the podium and was derived from the Championship winning car driven by Jenson on 2009.

We hear so much from Schumacher fans that the mighty Schumy can take a mediocre car and win races with it but he's not in a mediocre car. He's in car that is capable of getting on the steps.

The Mercedes car last year was much more competitive at the start of the year than towards the end when development had stopped. Rosberg got his podiums at the start but come halfway mark after Silverstone where he got his last podium the car wasn't as competitive.

Schumacher, once upon a day, was capable of dragging a mediocre car to get podiums. Anyone that watched his first few years at Ferrari knew that. I am a Schumi fan but clearly he isn't able to really do that anymore. In fact, I don't believe he was really capable of doing that since 2003. If he'll regain that magic, who knows? I doubt it though.

[52Paddy]

Expectations are rather different though aren't they. Schumacher came to Mercedes with the reputation of being able to build a team around him, motivate that team, and produce winning performances and championships. Of course that takes time but for one thing Mercedes were the defending champions when he joined, and time is something Schuamcher does not have much of in terms of his F1 career.

Agreed but that is no reason for Schumacher to give up the ghost just yet. I'll wholeheartedly admit that Schumacher of old is only present in the history books. However, I still think Schumi has his place in F1 and at Mercedes. I do think he will continue to regain form and will finish on the podium before he leaves the sport for good. An experienced hand is needed in the car as Rosberg is still learning (despite the few years he has under his belt now). I cannot think of anyone else in the field with as much experience and who could achieve better results inc. Heidfeld and Barrichello.

[Retro Formula 1]

You said they were one in the same...



I said that It was a Championship winning car when Schumacher jumped in it and Rosberg is getting results.The car that Mercedes raced in 2010 was derived from the Championship winning Brawn of 2009, built and developed by the same team so therefore it was hardly a dud. I don't see the problem with referring to them as one and the same?

As for the rest of your post, I agree 100%.

[555-04Q2]

Retro Formula 1 is right that the 2010 Mercedes was derived from the 2009 Brawn. But to be fair, the Brawn at the end of the 2009 season was behind the likes of Ferrrari, Macca etc due to the lack of in season developments from Brawn GP. It was eventually the 3rd maybe even 4th best car at the end of 2009 as the other teams developed their cars.

[Retro Formula 1]

It was eventually the 3rd maybe even 4th best car at the end of 2009 as the other teams developed their cars.

I wouldn't say it was that bad???

Even Rubens, who is hardly top flight IMHO, managed to win 2 of the last 7 races and Jenson who was a bag of nerves managed a couple of podiums. It wasn't as dominant as it was earlier in the year but was still a race winning car.

It was probably on a par with the Red Bull at that stage or slightly slipping behind it but not much.

[555-04Q2]

I wouldn't say it was that bad???

Even Rubens, who is hardly top flight IMHO, managed to win 2 of the last 7 races and Jenson who was a bag of nerves managed a couple of podiums. It wasn't as dominant as it was earlier in the year but was still a race winning car.

It was probably on a par with the Red Bull at that stage or slightly slipping behind it but not much.

I could be wrong, but did Button not acknowledged in an interview towards the end of the season that the other teams had caught up to and passed Brawn GP on the development front? If it had not been for Brawn's dominance at the start to the 2009 season, Button may not have won the WDC that year.

[555-04Q2]

P.S. Rubens was in sublime form in the second half of 2009 :)

[The Black Knight]

I said that It was a Championship winning car when Schumacher jumped in it and Rosberg is getting results.The car that Mercedes raced in 2010 was derived from the Championship winning Brawn of 2009, built and developed by the same team so therefore it was hardly a dud. I don't see the problem with referring to them as one and the same?

As for the rest of your post, I agree 100%.

It's a bit misleading to refer to the 2010 car as the same level as the 2009 BGP. The 2010 Mercedes was never really on par with the rest of the field, say McLaren, RBR and Ferrari. They failed to crawl back the lack of development they suffered from throughout the 09 season so it wasn't really on the same level as the 09 car relative to the rest of the field.

[The Black Knight]

P.S. Rubens was in sublime form in the second half of 2009 :)

That's always the issue with Rubens isn't it? Form on, Form off, Form on, Form off. Never consistent enough over the course of a season to become WDC.

[ioan]

They are one and the same :confused:

Just that meanwhile the others advance 12 months while The Brawn GP car didn't. Oh well, who am I kidding, knockie never changes.

[i_max2k2]

Just that meanwhile the others advance 12 months while The Brawn GP car didn't. Oh well, who am I kidding, knockie never changes.

Exactly, Brawn won the championship because of its dominance in the beginning of 2009. The development of the 2010 car probably dint even start before the end of the year.

[555-04Q2]

That's always the issue with Rubens isn't it? Form on, Form off, Form on, Form off. Never consistent enough over the course of a season to become WDC.

Indeed :up: I remember races where he monstered The Shoe, but over a season he just could not hold it together :(

[SGWilko]

He should just pack up and leave already. There are much, much better drivers Mercedes could get for half the money. Bad investment for them IMO.

I think it is value for money for ze Germans. Schumy is VERY high profile in Germany, and marketing benefits alone are worth every penny of his salary to Mercedes IMMVHO.

[The Black Knight]

I think it is value for money for ze Germans. Schumy is VERY high profile in Germany, and marketing benefits alone are worth every penny of his salary to Mercedes IMMVHO.

Most definitely value for money for them. He is huge in Germany, plus he is beginning to show flashes of form again so it may very well turn out to be a huge win win for them if he can regain even a bit of his former glory :)

He deserves some luck and a race win for a man that has given so much to the sport.

[555-04Q2]

I feel time is running out for him in that respect.

Maybe it already has :(

[Roamy]

Hey Williams should bring back JV along with that Renault engine and then we could have so real racing

[555-04Q2]

What's he gonna drive, the courtesy car dropping VIP's at the race?

[intheway]

Hey Williams should bring back JV along with that Renault engine and then we could have so real racing

And even more complaining... he's been at it a lot lately.

[ioan]

Hey Williams should bring back JV along with that Renault engine and then we could have so real racing

Yeah, would be great seeing him dicing it out with Liuzzi's HRT!

[555-04Q2]

You might want to read this article that interviews Ross Brawn and is very insightful into Michaels return to the sport and how hard its been to adapt.

Interview: Ross Brawn – ‘Nothing Ever Stays The Same…’ | The Race Driver (http://www.theracedriver.com/2011/07/interview-ross-brawn-nothing-ever-stays-the-same/)


I don't think Schuey has done bad under the circumstances... :)

Great interview :up: