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slorydn1
17th June 2010, 03:08
Thanks to mostly excellent reliability the standings look quite close to real pecking order, but maybe we could get some quite weird rankings if we applied the system to F1 seasons some 25 years ago?

Ask and ye shall recieve......it only took me a few days to score the entire season, so here it is, the 1985 World Championship-NASCAR Style
First for comparison, the real standings can be found here:

http://racing-reference.info/yeardet/1985/F

Now for the standings with Nascar points:

Format is Pos, Name, Points, Wins:


01 A Prost..........2607.........5
02 E de Angeles.....2351.........1
03 M Alboreto.......2347.........2
04 A Senna..........2343.........2
05 K Rosberg........2259.........2
06 S Johansson......2226.........0
07 T Boutsen .......2212.........0
08 N Mansell........2190.........2
09 N Piquet.........2050.........1
10 G Berger.........2013.........0
11 J Lafitte........1968.........0
12 M Brundle........1960.........0
13 P Tambay.........1915.........0
14 D Warwick........1880.........0
15 N Lauda..........1831.........1
16 E Cheever........1808.........0
17 R Patrese........1794.........0
18 P Martini........1676.........0
19 M Surer..........1595.........0
20 P Ghinzani.......1471.........0
21 T Fabi...........1432.........0
22 P Alliot.........1368.........0
23 A de Ceasaris....1248.........0
24 S Bellhof........1197.........0
25 M Winklehock.....0897.........0
26 H Rothengatter...0871.........0
27 J Palmer.........0782.........0
28 P Streiff........0709.........0
29 A Jones..........0394.........0
30 F Hesnault.......0373.........0
31 M Baldi..........0300.........0
32 I Capelli........0272.........0
33 C Danner.........0218.........0
34 K Acheson........0206.........0
35 R Arnoux.........0160.........0
36 J Watson.........0146.........0

As you can see, Prost won the championship both ways. What I did find interesting was that the penalty for bad races was enough that Senna was beaten by his lesser known teammate, de Angeles. Senna had quite a number of DNF's that year, plus the fact that a lot of teams sat out the Grand Prix of South Africa to protest Apartheid.

jens
19th June 2010, 21:16
Boutsen must have had an excellent reliability to end up that high.

Well, just checked. Only 4 retirements in 1985, which was an excellent record by the standards of that era. Only Prost had fewer DNF's among those, who raced for a full season.

woody2goody
20th June 2010, 22:54
This is brilliant, excellent work mate :)

One thing I like about NASCAR is it's scoring system. The fact that it rewards high finishes and reliability.

The thing about the F1 scoring system is, you retire on lap 1 - 0 points. You retire 3 laps from the end - 0 points. Whereas in NASCAR, a car who retires towards the end of the race will pick up more points than one that goes out on the first lap.

So the better teams and drivers will still generally come out on top, but it is fairer to guys who get bad luck, or those who can finish consistently.