Official Rally Mexico Thread

[SubaruNorway]

The big boys on there way http://www.vgb.no/6339/

[Corny]

Hehe :D nice pic

[A.F.F.]

The big boys on there way http://www.vgb.no/6339/


The Big Boys and Henning ;)

It would be nice to sit in that lounge though :D

[SubaruNorway]

Don't start A.F.F

[teufel]

A.F.F., let's give Henning some more rallies and we'll see if he's really a Big Boy! ;)

[Tom206wrc]

What about youngster Matt Wilslow ??? :p :


On that event, with so few WRC cars, if he doesn't finish in drivers points... :s

[White Sauron]

What about youngster Matt Wilslow ??? :p :


On that event, with so few WRC cars, if he doesn't finish in drivers points... :s

He won't... PWRC drivers will overtake him...

[Timole]

Does anyone know will wrc+ show live the superspecial stage in Mexico?

[A.F.F.]

A.F.F., let's give Henning some more rallies and we'll see if he's really a Big Boy! ;)

That's no problem to me. I can give Henning all the time in the world to see that. I'm just afraid that won't be enough :)

[L5->R5/CR]

I'm excited to see how Pastrana does in the PWRC. I think he'll finish in the middle of the pack with a couple of top3 stage times, which would be a great debut for his international career IMO. The tire lottery will be interesting to see how it plays out as his US team mate will be running as well but not in the PWRC so he will have unlimited tire supplies and options.

[jparker]

[quote="L5->R5/CR"]I'm excited to see how Pastrana does in the PWRC. I think he'll finish in the middle of the pack with a couple of top3 stage times.............quote]

Top3 stage times?
Hold on L5, this is WRC event, not North American only.
BTW, why are so optimistic about Pastrana? Is there something I don't know?

[N.O.T]

I think he means top 3 stage times among the PWRC crews.

[L5->R5/CR]

I think he means top 3 stage times among the PWRC crews.

Exactly.

I don't think he will set the rally world on fire, but I think he can finish mid pack in the PWRC and maybe put up a couple of top 3 stage times or maybe a class stage win.

He has a couple of advatages and dis advantages. His team has a high altitude testing facility so I imagine he will be very used to how the car will behave at altitude in terms of power and power band. Still he lacks a lot of the experience some of the other runners have so I don't think he can challenge for a class podium.

It will be intersting to see where he ends up though.

[pantealex]

I also believe that Pastrana will score some points, there are many P-WRC drivers some are slower than him.

[tribefiend]

I'll be on the stages with my red, white, and blue as he passes! It will make...at least for me, the pwrc a little more exciting.

[jens]

The question that interests me mostly, is that how good is that new Subaru. The best scenario would be a Subaru 1-2 finish, which would totally shake up the rankings. :D

[Simmi]

Yeah I'd love 4 different winners from the first 4 events! We can only hope...

[TKM]

The best scenario would be a Subaru 1-2 finish,
Yeh, Atko 1st, Petter 2nd :D

[Ranger]

Would be great if the season unfolded like it did in 2001. WRC needs a bit of a lift after a rather unspectacular 2006.

[ST205GT4]

I expect the following.

Citroen will win with the C4. Gronholm will be second. Either Petter or Hirvo will be third. Dani will get 4th again. Chris will get some great times then throw it off the road or otherwise damage the car, ruining what could be a great rally for him. Henning or Stohl will therefore get 5th and 6th. PWRC cars will be next, with Wilson somewhere in the top 15-20.

Yes I'm a pessimist as far as Chris goes. Hopefully it will work in reverse and he'll prove me wrong.

[Josti]

I'm excited to see how Pastrana does in the PWRC. I think he'll finish in the middle of the pack with a couple of top3 stage times, which would be a great debut for his international career IMO. The tire lottery will be interesting to see how it plays out as his US team mate will be running as well but not in the PWRC so he will have unlimited tire supplies and options.

Either he finishes in top 5, or he will crash out. I saw some videos of him. Fast, but a pretty wreckless driver also :\

[peterpz]

Here are pgotos from Mexico :)
preparation:
http://www.autoklub.pl/1173089257,,galeria.html?

And tests before rally:
http://www.autoklub.pl/1173178232,,galeria.html?

[L5->R5/CR]

Either he finishes in top 5, or he will crash out. I saw some videos of him. Fast, but a pretty wreckless driver also :\



When were the video froms? 2006? X Games? 2005?

The time he spent with Colin at the X games really helped him mature to be a more measured and controlled driver, if you can believe that. Look on youtube.com for Ojibwe Rally, or go to rallynation.com and look at the footage of him there. Much less reckless/crash prone.

[Doug Woods]

Either he finishes in top 5, or he will crash out. I saw some videos of him. Fast, but a pretty wreckless driver also :\

Despite the wreckless image, Travis has actually been a very consistent and smart rally driver. In fact, over the last year he truly has been "wreck" less.

He has quite an experienced support team behind him who are moving him into WRC competition along a very smart path.

He will likely progess in the WRC to a significant level. How far that is, remains to be seen.

The one thing that impresses me about Travis is his ability to rise to the occassion. Be it the X Games or the Race of Champions, he thrives on being in the spotlight. He is used to being the best in the world at what he chooses to do and he expects to be able to do it.

But then I guess driving a rally car is a lot less stressful that doing double back flips on a motorcyle.

[Josti]

Ok, if you guys say he has progressed I believe you, cause I probably haven't followed him as much. But I'm not incorrect that he was a pretty wreckless driver (in early years). I think PWRC would be a good move for him next year, so he can show his real ability's. Anyway, a new American in the championship would be cool, John Buffum has been long retired :)

[jparker]

Either he finishes in top 5, or he will crash out. I saw some videos of him. Fast, but a pretty wreckless driver also :\

Well, driving fast on the strait sections will not gain him a lot. It's all about turning technics, and I don't think Pastrana has them. But in the same time, who knows ........

[L5->R5/CR]

Ok, if you guys say he has progressed I believe you, cause I probably haven't followed him as much. But I'm not incorrect that he was a pretty wreckless driver (in early years). I think PWRC would be a good move for him next year, so he can show his real ability's. Anyway, a new American in the championship would be cool, John Buffum has been long retired :)



He used to just drive all out and take lots of risks and try to win by not lifting and taking bigger risks then everybody else. This strategy ended up in a very spectacular crash in 2005 and a handful of wrecked cars in 2006. At the X games something changed, he started driving with a lot more sense of control, being aggressive but not taking risks.

From watching him from 2005 before his crash (the fastest he was driving in 2005) to watching him in 2006 in the second event after the X games. I can tell you he was a lot less agressive (perhaps just not taking extra risks), a lot smoother, and much more controlled (and faster but less spectacular) in the turns.

The man (jeez he is just a year older than me!) is dedicated and determined. I don't know if he is a world beater, or will be, but I think he is a lot better than last year at this point.


What I love is that people in the US/Canada (and to some extent on this forum even) keep wanting to praise him then say a driver who hasn't done a proper rally in 2 years is better.

We will find out in a couple of days. I'm not a Pastrana fan boy, but I think he has skills so I want to see how he stacks up and think he will do pretty well. The better Pastrana is the better it is for the rally in the US.

[tribefiend]

Ken Block's black Subaru looks pretty sweet!

http://www.autoklub.pl/1173089257,,galeria.html?

[bt52b]

Ok, if you guys say he has progressed I believe you, cause I probably haven't followed him as much. But I'm not incorrect that he was a pretty wreckless driver (in early years). I think PWRC would be a good move for him next year, so he can show his real ability's. Anyway, a new American in the championship would be cool, John Buffum has been long retired :)

Think Buffum helps him now.

[L5->R5/CR]

Think Buffum helps him now.



Vermont Sports Car (the shop/company that runs Subaru Rally Team USA) hired Buffum as a consultant.

[FrankenSchwinn]

He used to just drive all out and take lots of risks and try to win by not lifting and taking bigger risks then everybody else. This strategy ended up in a very spectacular crash in 2005 and a handful of wrecked cars in 2006. At the X games something changed, he started driving with a lot more sense of control, being aggressive but not taking risks.
From watching him from 2005 before his crash (the fastest he was driving in 2005) to watching him in 2006 in the second event after the X games. I can tell you he was a lot less agressive (perhaps just not taking extra risks), a lot smoother, and much more controlled (and faster but less spectacular) in the turns.
The man (jeez he is just a year older than me!) is dedicated and determined. I don't know if he is a world beater, or will be, but I think he is a lot better than last year at this point.
What I love is that people in the US/Canada (and to some extent on this forum even) keep wanting to praise him then say a driver who hasn't done a proper rally in 2 years is better.
We will find out in a couple of days. I'm not a Pastrana fan boy, but I think he has skills so I want to see how he stacks up and think he will do pretty well. The better Pastrana is the better it is for the rally in the US.

i think Travis is good by nature. i know I'll get sh!t for it but i think he's got that thing deep inside about it like JML and Mikko and my man Bengue have. I've seen him early on and it's obvious that there has been a maturity about him lately. maybe it was a good talk with mccrae or maybe a realization that to get to the top is going to be harder than what ever anyone tells him, i don't know. all i know is this kid (he's 2 years younger than me) is a Maryland boy and since it has been my adopted home for 12 years and will be until my visa runs out, I'll support his efforts. a friend of mine who is a sponsored skateboarder has been to his house near Annapolis when he first started rallying and he said that besides me, he's never seen anyone who was so into the sport. i wish him well.

[Timole]

Don´t forget Martin Rauam. He´ll be fast, truly a gravel specialist.

[MikeD]

Does any of you if it will be Tom Gahan who will prepare Austin MacHales 2003 Focus?

[jonkka]

Can anyone shed light on Francisco Name's starts. This year's Mexico got both Senior and Junior on the list so it's no problem with identification but I got three other entries for Francisco in 2004-2006 Rally Mexico but without identification as to Junior or Senior.

Given that this years entry details for Senior Name is Peugeot 206 with Felipe Arguelles, exactly the same entry that was made in 2004, I'd be betting that this occasion was Senior too, not Junior as I have it now. But how about 2005 and 2006, details are as follows:

2005 Mexico #71 Francisco Name Jr Horacio Chousal ret. Peugeot 206 A6
2006 Mexico #60 Francisco Name Jr Armando Zapata 21st Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VII N4

2005 could have been Senior as well?

[amberie]

I've seen him early on and it's obvious that there has been a maturity about him lately. maybe it was a good talk with mccrae or maybe a realization that to get to the top is going to be harder than what ever anyone tells him, i don't know.

I think he's got a good enough head on his shoulders to realize that while he's on top in Rally America, on the world scene, he's just a small fish in a big sea. He knows he has talent, but he's got to be more careful, as to not embarrass himself and American rallying as a whole. But this happens to all the young drivers: they start out fast and reckless, and mature to be real contenders.

I'm predicting a top 8 finish for Travis. It'll be interesting to see if he improves in his next rally.

Also, Ken Block is on the entry list. Not as much talent, but it's a welcome addition. I've never had the opportunity to cheer on an American driver before!

[SubaruNorway]

Whats the timezone in Mexico?

[tribefiend]

Whats the timezone in Mexico?

GMT-6

[A.F.F.]

i know I'll get sh!t for it but i think he's got that thing deep inside about it like JML and Mikko and my man Bengue have.


I though your man was Joseph ??

Anyways... interesting theory. I have to admit all these Pastranas and Blocks are new faces to me. I have secretly been waiting for someone to come out of America to rallying scene. I hope them good and it sure will be interesting to see how they cope to real rallying. If they are serious about it they will be humble and ready to learn. :)

[White Sauron]

Hirvosen kotisivussa ilmestyivat kolme uutta valokuvaa meksikan rallista.)))

[SubaruNorway]

So shakedown starts at 1pm GMT and 14:00 Norwegian time

[SubaruNorway]

I though your man was Joseph ??

Anyways... interesting theory. I have to admit all these Pastranas and Blocks are new faces to me. I have secretly been waiting for someone to come out of America to rallying scene. I hope them good and it sure will be interesting to see how they cope to real rallying. If they are serious about it they will be humble and ready to learn. :)

This is Travis Pastrana enjoy :D
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/Pastrana/0.htm

[A.F.F.]

I'm aware of Travis now but year back I didn't know who he was.

[tribefiend]

I am just hoping that somewhere down the line in the future that Travis has kicked off rally as a serious sport here in the US. And maybe perhaps a round of the WRC.

[janneppi]

I'm aware of Travis now but year back I didn't know who he was.
Until last year, my only knowledge from Pastrana was from Fox catalogue where, he then at 14 years old did a one hander off a cliff with a motocross bike. :)

[Micke_VOC]

Any SD results ? have it started yet ?

[SubaruNorway]

It's starting now miscalculated the time a bit in my earlier post sorry

[White Sauron]

Any SD results ? have it started yet ?

Shakedwon usually ends at midnight local time. This means we can get some final results in around 3 hours...

[jonkka]

You mean midday (noon), obviously.

[White Sauron]

You mean midday (noon), obviously.

Yeah, sure... Just was in a hurry when typing... Sorry, my bad.

[Halvis]

I'm eager to see the new Imprezas times, even if I know it's only shakedown - still very curious, I think something must be able to draw from it!

[FrankenSchwinn]

I though your man was Joseph ??

Simon Jean-Joseph IS the man!

he certainly is more of a man than passonen ;)

[Mickey T]

don't expect the new impreza to set the world on fire.

they're still finding big chunks in testing, and the team doesn't expect it to immediately challenge. they think it will need three or four gravel events before they've got it where they want it.

[A.F.F.]

Simon Jean-Joseph IS the man!

he certainly is more of a man than passonen ;)

PAASONEN. It should be easier to write than those mediterraen freaky names, not to mention french ones ;) :D

[White Sauron]

PAASONEN. It should be easier to write than those mediterraen freaky names, not to mention french ones ;) :D

*studying finnish at the moment, laugh a lot at your comment. Good one, AFF!)))))))))))))))

[Tom206wrc]

Any news about shakedown ??? :confused:

[[WRCRR]]

Simon Jean-Joseph IS the man!

he certainly is more of a man than passonen ;)

Sorry to go even more off-topic but I just have to say this:

Simon Jean-Joseph
Jani Paasonen

Two world-class drivers who never got the career in WRC they would so richly have deserved...a great shame.

Ok, got that out of my system - carry on with Rally Mexico 2007 :)

[Xeroid]

Shakedown Results .. anything ?
Is there any up to date info anywhere.
The Rally Mexico site is still showing DRAFT documentation so they must all be on Tequila time, they'll update after the party and the big sleep off.
WRC won't give you nothing unless you pay for +

[SubaruNorway]

According to this Petter and Loeb are the fastest on 2,53min think it's safe to say that this is highly unoficial :D
http://www.rally-live.com/wrc/en/photos/2007/mexique/diapo_051.shtml

[Iskald]

]Sorry to go even more off-topic but I just have to say this:

Simon Jean-Joseph
Jani Paasonen

Two world-class drivers who never got the career in WRC they would so richly have deserved...a great shame.

Ok, got that out of my system - carry on with Rally Mexico 2007 :)

You must be joking! Jean-Joseph certainly got his fair deal of chances and simply didn`t deliver. World class driver? I very much doubt it...
When it comes to Paasonen I honestly don`t know, but didn`t he spoil his own possibilities for other reasons?

[Roy]

Webcam of servicepark Mexico.
http://wrcmx.world-affair.com// Link is also on http://www.rallymexico.com

Ford, Subaru, Citroen and some promo clips.

[Xeroid]

According to this Petter and Loeb are the fastest on 2,53min think it's safe to say that this is highly unoficial :D
http://www.rally-live.com/wrc/en/photos/2007/mexique/diapo_051.shtml


Nice 'Officials' though, is she typical of the rally support staff over there ??

Have to wait till I get home, vid feed is blocked into work. Damn ..!

[White Sauron]

Watching live from the service park, I have some thoughts...
Just think. Now it's 4 pm in Mexico... There're lots of mechanics around Subaru car, worrying about smth... Less people around Citroen cars: no more then 2 persons at the same time. And then Ford... Wow! there's absolutely nobody! Oh, no, no, there's one lonely mechanic cam and went away...

Why do I pay such a big attention to it? Hm... A simple logic: the more someone care about smth, the more they are uncertain about this subject/object. Almost the same thing as in Norway on shakedown: Marcus and Mikko did 2 runs and then had a rest: they were sure in their cars. Seb did a bit more runs, and in the race he was a bit slower than the Fords. And Petter with Chris did lots of runs in the shakedown and then showed almost no pace compared to the top teams. can the story repeat there? Can the thing that Ford team already at rest mean they're prepared on 110%? While Subaru guys again worried about their performance...

[Tom206wrc]

Mexico rally website won't offer us what Norway and Sweden did(quick shakedown results for instance)it seems :rolleyes:

[SubaruNorway]

Some here
http://www.norsk-rally.com/modules/module_123/proxy.aspx?D=2&C=2&I=4522

[White Sauron]

Some here
http://www.norsk-rally.com/modules/module_123/proxy.aspx?D=2&C=2&I=4522

Thanks a lot)) But... haha... Companc faster than Hirvonen and Sordo - than Loeb and others make me think that in this rally shakedown is specially "untrustable"))

[Halvis]

Watching live from the service park, I have some thoughts...
Just think. Now it's 4 pm in Mexico... There're lots of mechanics around Subaru car, worrying about smth... Less people around Citroen cars: no more then 2 persons at the same time. And then Ford... Wow! there's absolutely nobody! Oh, no, no, there's one lonely mechanic cam and went away...

Why do I pay such a big attention to it? Hm... A simple logic: the more someone care about smth, the more they are uncertain about this subject/object. Almost the same thing as in Norway on shakedown: Marcus and Mikko did 2 runs and then had a rest: they were sure in their cars. Seb did a bit more runs, and in the race he was a bit slower than the Fords. And Petter with Chris did lots of runs in the shakedown and then showed almost no pace compared to the top teams. can the story repeat there? Can the thing that Ford team already at rest mean they're prepared on 110%? While Subaru guys again worried about their performance...

I would have thought it was very, very strange if Subaru didn't pay attention to their car - you're aware that this is their first rally with the new car?

[White Sauron]

I would have thought it was very, very strange if Subaru didn't pay attention to their car - you're aware that this is their first rally with the new car?

I am. But their Impreza isn't THAT new. In 2008 it will be new, but not now. Just an upgraded version.

[Tomi]

There're lots of mechanics around Subaru car, worrying about smth...
Maybe they are just watching that someone dont take the car, some Mexican might need fertilizer for their fields.

[A.F.F.]

When it comes to Paasonen I honestly don`t know, but didn`t he spoil his own possibilities for other reasons?

What do you mean Iskald? I'm curious.

As much as I like Paasonen and think he could have been the fastest, I have to admit he got his fair chances as well. I'm not sure the reasons but I thi he was way too ditch consentrated driver and as fans loved him, team bosses and insurance companies hated him :)

[Tomi]

I think things vent wrong for Paasonen when Mika Sohlberg started as his manager, also trying to show speed with a Skoda is not so easy either, has to overdrive all the time.

[White Sauron]

I wonder if the C4 is really that faster than Fords on gravel, or it's just a shakedown, and Ford's guys were relaxed?...

[bt52b]

Wtf, subaru gimp?
http://www.pablopuga.com/gallery/2558185#134591968

[Cham00ko]

Can anyone shed light on Francisco Name's starts. This year's Mexico got both Senior and Junior on the list so it's no problem with identification but I got three other entries for Francisco in 2004-2006 Rally Mexico but without identification as to Junior or Senior.

Given that this years entry details for Senior Name is Peugeot 206 with Felipe Arguelles, exactly the same entry that was made in 2004, I'd be betting that this occasion was Senior too, not Junior as I have it now. But how about 2005 and 2006, details are as follows:

2005 Mexico #71 Francisco Name Jr Horacio Chousal ret. Peugeot 206 A6
2006 Mexico #60 Francisco Name Jr Armando Zapata 21st Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VII N4

2005 could have been Senior as well?

I'm sure in 2005 it was Francisco Name Junior the one who did Corona Rally Mexico. ;)

[jonkka]

I'm sure in 2005 it was Francisco Name Junior the one who did Corona Rally Mexico. ;)

Thanks. So 2007 is WRC debut for Name Sr then? Or do you know it was he in 2004 as I speculated?

[Halvis]

I'm to busy to do the math - anyone that knows when S1 starts in CET?

[Wim_Impreza]

I'm to busy to do the math - anyone that knows when S1 starts in CET?

SS1 Alfaro 1, 23,5 km, 8.28 (GMT -6).

[Brother John]

For Sweden It will be 15.28 first SS :D :s mokin:

[DonJippo]

SS1 Alfaro 1, 23,5 km, 8.28 (GMT -6).

15:28 CET

[Halvis]

Thanks, guys!

[Halvis]

Less than an hour now - bring it on!

[jonas_mcrae]

so depressed for not being there... :(

[Bjorn240]

Thanks for all the kind words, boys, but expectations of stage wins and a top finish in PWRC are months away yet. We're just aiming to keep our noses clean, drive all 350km of stage, and get to the finish.

Keep your hats on - it'll take plenty of time to get to the PWRC!

Keep your fingers crossed for no punctures! Especially on 2/5 and 17 and 18.

- Christian

[drewbud]

Thanks for all the kind words, boys, but expectations of stage wins and a top finish in PWRC are months away yet. We're just aiming to keep our noses clean, drive all 350km of stage, and get to the finish.

Keep your hats on - it'll take plenty of time to get to the PWRC!

Keep your fingers crossed for no punctures! Especially on 2/5 and 17 and 18.

- Christian
Christian, shouldn't you be getting ready....not cruising internet forums?
Hope Ken, Alex, Travis and yourself have a great run!

[jonas_mcrae]

Hi Christian the best of luck for you and travis!!

[A.F.F.]

Tough lads surf internet while driving on stage :D

All the good luck for you guys on stages :up:

[drewbud]

Tough lads surf internet while driving on stage :D

All the good luck for you guys on stages :up:

So that's what the co-drivers are for... :D

[jonkka]

Nothing yet...

[White Sauron]

Same splits for marcus and Mikko

[jonas_mcrae]

which live stages page are you using?

[animrallye]

Where did you see that ?
All Splits sites are off !

[bennizw]

Hmm. there are no splits on zone.ee?:S

[SubaruNorway]

anyone got splits?

[White Sauron]

Where did you see that ?
All Splits sites are off !

Rallio Radio said

[KKS]

We hear on rally radio

[Halvis]

No splits on any of the estonian sites yet...

[White Sauron]

Seb is much faster!

[Halvis]

To those who has rally radio - keep us informed until the splits are up, please...

[Corny]

and nothing on BFG's site??

[White Sauron]

Loeb is 5.8 seconds faster than Gronholm, Hirvonen is only tenth of a second quicer than his team-mate

[Halvis]

Loeb is 5.8 seconds faster than Gronholm, Hirvonen is only tenth of a second quicer than his team-mate

Wow, that's much! Maybe Ford should have been more eager on the cars in service park yesterday, afterall? :laugh:

[Brother John]

No splits on any of the estonian sites yet...

Everybody can listen for free !!!! on http://www.wrc.com/page/RallyRadio/0,,10111,00.html

:s mokin:

[Brother John]

No splits on any of the estonian sites yet...
Radio is free!!!
http://www.wrc.com/page/RallyRadio/0,,10111,00.html

[White Sauron]

1. Seb
2. Hirvonen +7
3. Gronholm +9

[White Sauron]

Problems for Henning...?

[jonas_mcrae]

ups +3 min for Henning

[White Sauron]

Solberg 2.9 second faster than Loeb

[Halvis]

There is something very strange with the times on Subaru's page, according to them Atko is 2 mins ahead of Petter, with Latvala 5 secs behind Atko...

[jonkka]

There is rally going on, results services should wake up! Grrr...

[WRC1]

henning rolled! lost 3:30

petter fastest!! in front of loeb and bosse

[Halvis]

The times for Atko and Latvala must be wrong, they were both slower than Petter up to the last split. Anyway, fantastic start for the new Impreza!

[WRC2006]

definitely the time are wrong

[SubaruNorway]

Two subarus in the front after ss1 one then

[darrenjjones]

Anyone got a clue why atkinson and Latvala are about two minutes up on everyone else on wrc.com

[Halvis]

I think we can say that Petter leads Atko by 0.9 secs, followed by Loeb. I hope Hennings car is OK, he was pretty fast on the first two splits.

[WRC2006]

Two subarus in the front after ss1 one then

Hope they will stay there untill sunday.

[Halvis]

No mentions on rally radio about those two times?

[Erki]

10 A. MACHALE +3:01.9
12 G. MACHALE +4:04.8

I say no more. :disturbed:

[bennizw]

Link for the rally radio please? :)

[WRC2006]

I have a slow speed here, anyone else has the same problem?

[Erki]

10 A. MACHALE +3:01.9
12 G. MACHALE +4:04.8

I say no more. :disturbed:

[Finni]

Very good time for Sordo also.. C4 is looking strong. Hopefully there will be also some bad stages for them as in Norway. I am little bit biased against almighty Citroen and Seb as you can note.

Btw: I wouldn't mind if results were stay same for whole rally. One of my pickem line in finnish betting is Petter-Loeb-Hirvonen.

[Brother John]

Forum is very slow for me today!!!!

[Brother John]

Link for the rally radio please? :)

Look first post on this site Nr 6!!!!!

[janneppi]

Forum is very slow for me today!!!!

Normal Rally weekend sluggishness. :)

[WRC2006]

Forum is very slow for me today!!!!

I have the same problem as well?! What is wrong?

Is this the Loeb's effect again?!!

[Halvis]

I guess Petter is very, very happy now - finally able to set fastest stage times, I just hope it continues like that!

Slow from the Fords...

[Brother John]

Hennings car looks very bad according to rally radio!

[Halvis]

Hennings car looks very bad according to rally radio!

Any info on what happened?

[Halvis]

BTW, with so few WRC cars, if Henning can continue, he still can make it into points.

[WRC2006]

Any info on what happened?


He rolled out in the SS1

[N.O.T]

seems that starting position is a factor...hope the fords don't lose much so we can have good fights all the way....

[Brother John]

SS 1 Times wrc com

1 Solberg
2 Loeb +2.9
3 Atkinson +5.9
4 Sordo +7.5
5 Hirvonen +10.7
6 Gronholm +12.1
7 Stohl + 14.1
8 Latvala + 17

[Halvis]

OK, just wondered if it was a driving error, a rock or what. Probably too fast, stupid, stupid..

[Tom206wrc]

Good start from Sordo !! ;)

[edacurf]

ss 2 is on air

[Brother John]

ss 2 is on air

I hear only stupid music!!!

[Tom206wrc]

Bosse and Mikko os SS2 :p :

[Tom206wrc]

It seems Henning was too much excited after his podium in Norway, same after his podium in Turkey last year, and couldn't help doing a strong mistake... :rolleyes:

[Brother John]

PLIT TIJDEN ONLINE!!!

http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/analyzer.php?rally=4&stage=2&results=1&jwrc=

[Halvis]

Henning doesn't start on SS2... Scheize...

[Halvis]

Henning doesn't start on SS2... Scheize... Edit: He is starting after Sordo.

[Halvis]

Henning doesn't start on SS2... Scheize... Edit: He is starting after Sordo.

[White Sauron]

Hirvi on iskussa!!!

[consti]

halvis: btw it`s scheiße and no it isn`t at all :)

[Halvis]

halvis: btw it`s scheiße and no it isn`t at all :)

I stand corrected - almost 27 years since I left school, so maybe it's not that strange I didn't remember correctly. Don't think the word was one of the words that stood the most in our german teaching books ether... :laugh:

[jonas_mcrae]

splits very strange nothing for the solbergs or sordo...

[WRC2006]

GPS not working?!

[jonkka]

Results service sucks

[consti]

there aren`t much of those words left in our society...mostly it`s the english words that are used nowadays...

[jonkka]

Uh, results would be so boring anyway, no need for those. I rather listen music.

[Finni]

Huoh, result service is getting worser and worser..

[Brother John]

Results service sucks

Even the radio sucks! :(

[jonkka]

La-la-laaa, sing sing... hmmm...

[jonkka]

Cost cuts at ISC side?

[jonkka]

Or screw-up by Mexico organisers?

[Finni]

Seems like Atkinson has gone fastest. Really interesting to see Petter's time..
Nice that Subaru is back in busines. I think that Atkinson's pace confirms that - Petter was quite fast also last year in Mexico.

[meverkko]

A warm welcome to a competitive Subaru!!!!

This is what we need, more drivers to go for the win.

I hope this is because of the capability of the car and not just because they would be benefiting from the starting order.

[WRC2006]

Cost cuts at ISC side?


Haaaaaa!!!! Cost cuts everywhere now!!!!

[malscar]

Bugger, Marcus is at the start of SS3, so the splits stop for SS2. Grrrrr

[Halvis]

Horrible, horrible music on Rally Radio - I wonder who picks the music...

[White Sauron]

I hope this is because of the capability of the car and not just because they would be benefiting from the starting order.

Oh yeah, and Fords are so slow because their car is very bad? No-no. Ford's poor results and Subarus' good - only because of their starting positions.

[White Sauron]

Bugger, Marcus is at the start of SS3, so the splits stop for SS2. Grrrrr

Hope, we'll get better split times from there...

[Brother John]

SS3 is on!!!
http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/analyzer.php?rally=4&stage=3&results=1&jwrc=

[SubaruNorway]

This is why we never hear about small problems with the fords http://nrksport.no/motorsport/rally-vm/1.2006640

All the drivers has strict orders not to complaine about small things to the media, does the fords have the ride hight system this year?

[White Sauron]

Strange... Ford seem very strong at the first split, but then they fall back...

[Finni]

Marcus not loosing much to Seb despite difference in road position.

[SubaruNorway]

This is why we never hear about small problems with the fords http://nrksport.no/motorsport/rally-vm/1.2006640

All the drivers has strict orders not to complaine about small things to the media, does the fords have the ride hight system this year?


Ore not, Mikko problem with gearbox

[Brother John]

Strange... Ford seem very strong at the first split, but then they fall back...

They have to clean the road!!!!! wait till the afternoon!

[White Sauron]

Ore not, Mikko problem with gearbox

Fortunately, it's service time now)

[Brother John]

Splits stops again!?! verdomme!!!!!

[Corny]

Haha :D niet vloeken brother john!

[N.O.T]

I wonder when the citroen team will change sordo.....he is very slow on the loose.... :D :D :D :D

[meverkko]

Oh yeah, and Fords are so slow because their car is very bad? No-no. Ford's poor results and Subarus' good - only because of their starting positions.

I´m not saying they wouldn´t benefit from the road position. Of course they do. But they haven´t been able to get to this level even when benefiting from the road position! Now they do. There must be some potential in the new Impreza!

[Brother John]

Haha :D niet vloeken brother john!

:colour: :s :angel: :beer:

[jonas_mcrae]

yes! petter faster! looks like

[Halvis]

Petter fastest again! Surely good road position, but it's not that much better than Seb.

Edit: Also, he has had to pass Henning twice...

[Corny]

I'm sure his brother won't let him lost any tenth of a second

[Corny]

Imagine that it was your brother :D !

[A.F.F.]

Vautsi vau !!! Petter is a man with a mission. Hopefully those new Subarus hold up. :up:

I just can't get e feeling with this rally, dunno why :confused: I'm starting to sound like Steven ;)

[bt52b]

Block rolled on SS1. Think Travis is goin' ok.

[White Sauron]

Impreza 07 is 06 version on 70%, other parts are new. Considering last year the statistical probability of Impreza breaking down on the first day was 100%, I can claim now it's 70% Petter's car will let him down today.

[bt52b]

Impreza 07 is 06 version on 70%, other parts are new. Considering last year the statistical probability of Impreza breaking down on the first day was 100%, I can claim now it's 70% Petter's car will let him down today.

Hopefully you are 100% wrong :D

C'ship needs a Subaru win.

[bt52b]

Impreza 07 is 06 version on 70%, other parts are new. Considering last year the statistical probability of Impreza breaking down on the first day was 100%, I can claim now it's 70% Petter's car will let him down today.

Hopefully you are 100% wrong :D

C'ship needs a Subaru win.

[SubaruNorway]

Whatch it ore else il break you down :D

[SubaruNorway]

First car on service in 10min http://wrcmx.world-affair.com//

[N.O.T]

so far i don't think that the new subaru is that much better....Solberg was leading also when road position was benefitial for him...i think we are going to get a good measure of how the new subaru performs tommorow and on the repeated stages

[Corny]

Last year after 3 stages:
1 solberg
2 hirvonen +10
marcus/seb +30 or more

Explains enough

[jparker]

Impreza 07 is 06 version on 70%, other parts are new. Considering last year the statistical probability of Impreza breaking down on the first day was 100%, I can claim now it's 70% Petter's car will let him down today.

I think you are 70% wrong on that one :)

[White Sauron]

And it goes ss4

[N.O.T]

Gronholm is as fast as solberg was this morning.....on split 1

[N.O.T]

Hirvonen

[N.O.T]

Hirvonen substantialy faster than Gronholm on split 1

[jonkka]

he beat Marcus Gronholm and Sebastien Loeb 'fare and square'

???

[A.F.F.]

Loeb gets in the middle....

[SubaruNorway]

Petter happy after the three first stages http://www.vgb.no/20075/

[N.O.T]

Loeb moving fast.....fastest on split 2

[N.O.T]

the "slow on loose" Sordo is fastst on split 1....

[jonkka]

the "slow on loose" Sordo is fastst on split 1....

GPS glitch. Or UFO's.

[White Sauron]

the "slow on loose" Sordo is fastst on split 1....

It's a mistake))

[N.O.T]

i wonder when the citroen team will change him .....

[Finni]

Sordo is on fire!

Hopefully Petter will win the rally.

[N.O.T]

Solberg fastest on split 2....good news !!!

[N.O.T]

Loeb beats the 2 ford kids...

[SubaruNorway]

I seriosly think Sordo is afraid of the snow if you saw if his face when he went off into the snow it looked like he was afraid of drowning in the snow ore something

[Brother John]

Sordo is on fire!

Hopefully Petter will win the rally.

For how long? When is he going off the road?

[N.O.T]

No i think sordo is just slow on the loose.....keep your ears at the radio citroen will change him soon... :D :D :D

[bt52b]

GPS glitch. Or UFO's.
or black helicopters...... :vader:

[N.O.T]

hey sordo beats the ford kids also....citroen must change him if they want the manufacturers title...

[A.F.F.]

hey sordo beats the ford kids also....citroen must change him if they want the manufacturers title...


"...but mommy, they started it..."

[N.O.T]

Gronholm was really slow on that one.....wonder whats wrong with the car.

[swordsman]

Anyone knowing what has happened to Henning? EDIT: Oops there he was

[N.O.T]

"...but mommy, they started it..."

indeed .....

[Finni]

If Petter can match Loeb here it probably means that in other rallies he cannot stand against Loeb. To that point it seems that Subaru is probably still the slowest of top-three. Citroen looks like a devil..

[jonkka]

Something is wrong if Stohl is just seven seconds off from Marcus after four stages.

[dot-niek]

It's the first rally for the 07 impreza WRC, the car can only improve from now on...

[N.O.T]

It's the first rally for the 07 impreza WRC, the car can only improve from now on...

i wouldn't bet on it.

[DuncanD]

what is thgat music playing right now behind becks voice?

[SubaruNorway]

Some interresting facts http://www.wrc.com/page/News/BreakingNewsDetail/0,,10111~994207,00.html

[DonJippo]

citroen must change him if they want the manufacturers title...

:up: you got that one right ... :eek:

[dot-niek]

i wouldn't bet on it.

why not?

the setup surely isn't perfect at its first event and minor problems can be solved resulting in an even better car.

[N.O.T]

:up: you got that one right ... :eek:

I know....

[DuncanD]

citroen must change him if they want the manufacturers title...

I don't get it? Sarcasm? He's fourth whats wrong with that?

[N.O.T]

me? sarcastic? never....Sordo is just "too slow on the loose"

[Kamikaze]

it get´s boring........

[A.F.F.]

Which one? The rally or Mr.Mousefart winding up again ?

[Kamikaze]

The Rallye is ok......

[SubaruNorway]

Pastrana on 6th after ss4

[A.F.F.]

Sohlberg 22,6 seconds behind Baldacci.

[N.O.T]

Which one? The rally or Mr.Mousefart winding up again ?

winding up ?? whats winding up ? calling for citroen to change sordo because he is slow on the loose? or capitalising on the retardation of the idea ???

[A.F.F.]

winding up ?? whats winding up ? calling for citroen to change sordo because he is slow on the loose? or capitalising on the retardation of the idea ???


I dunno. From your perspective it seem like a win-win situation.

[PuddleJumper]

From Yahoo Rally News, about Sordo's performance in Mexico so far:
"Dani Sordo was fourth fastest in the second Citroen and seemingly much more at home on the gravel than he was the snow and ice of Finland and Norway."
Was the Arctic Lapland Rally given WRC status without us knowing or did the Citroën driver get really, really lost on the Swedish Rally?! :D

[SubaruNorway]

The splits are realy mocked up tonight aren't they

[White Sauron]

The splits are realy mocked up tonight aren't they

Only radio saves me. And... In current conditions... it's Mikko, who impresses me most. And also Dani.

[jonkka]

Loeb is putting Petter under pressure - and Mikko does same for Dani.

[alleskids]

Has Henning lost his confidence or could M-Sport not repair his car in full rally conditions? He lost again a big amount of time ?

[WRC1]

look at stohl´s split times!!!!

great performance until now!

regards

wrc1

[edacurf]

look at stohl´s split times!!!!

great performance until now!

regards

wrc1

Hy WRC1

[KKS]

great time for Stohl

[edacurf]

great time for Stohl

he did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[White Sauron]

Stohl overtakes Gro!!! Have you ever seen such a thing?!!!

[WRC1]

hey edacurf!!

time for a beer ;o))

well done ilka and manfred!! keep on pushing!!

regards

wrc1

[jonkka]

Oh my?!

[edacurf]

hey edacurf!!

time for a beer ;o))

well done ilka and manfred!! keep on pushing!!

regards

wrc1

9 Stage Wins:

# 1. 2006 Monte Carlo SS 17

# 2. 2006 Monte Carlo SS 18

# 3. 2006 Mexico SS 7

# 4. 2006 Mexico SS 17

# 5. 2006 Argentinia SS 10

# 6. 2006 Argentina SS 19

# 7. 2006 Wales Rally GB SS 4

# 8. 2006 Wales Rally GB SS 10

# 9. 2007 Mexico SS 5

[Xeroid]

Just over an hour to Super Special start, is that going to be streamed live from the rallymexico site cos I got good service park pix on 4 cams and 2 running promo vids. Hopefully they'll go live on those two.

[Cham00ko]

Hi guys, just got back from stage 2. Had to return to Leon because I have to work on the afternoon (damn job!).

The scoobie looks good so far, but Loeb is closing the gap to Petter and that would make things interesting for the rest of the afternoon.

We managed to see Nasser Al-Attiyah's wrecked car before the end of SS2. By the looks of it it was a spectacular crash... I'll upload some pics in a few moments.

Cheers from Leon!

[Cham00ko]

Just over an hour to Super Special start, is that going to be streamed live from the rallymexico site cos I got good service park pix on 4 cams and 2 running promo vids. Hopefully they'll go live on those two.

they will broadcast the SSS on ESPN2 (The latinamerican version of the channel)

I'm getting my DVD recorder ready :D

[edacurf]

pettar stopped !!!!!!!!

[raybak]

Loss of engine oil for Petter, Noooooooooooooooooo!!

[bt52b]

Petter out lost engine oil :(

[WRC1]

pooor petter!

i am soo sorry for him...he dont deserves this...


regards

wrc1