Rally De Portugal 2010

[jonkka]

What was Petter's problem on this stage?

[John V]

What was Petter's problem on this stage?
Reported steering problem, not powersteering, but something loose. Trying to fix it after stage, but looks like a problem inside steering rack.

[jonkka]

Oh? Might cost Citroen their historic 1-2-3-4...

[Salist]

Good morning Guys.

[awake27]

I don't think it. There was never a teammate of Loeb that was allowed to win when he was second and the teammate first.
Argentina 2004? Finland 2004 (although for the podium)?

Cmon lets be serious, how many times it happened to Loeb to be behind a team-mate since 2003-2004? Only Sordo last year in Spain wasn't allowed to win because there was a championship at stake.

[blissard]

It's so typical. So incredibly typical. Just when you think he's gonna make it, in this case secure third place, then some kinda problem appears. Might believe it's sabotage, if it wasn't for the fact that he's the unluckiest man on earth.

[jonkka]

Sordo up to 3rd...

[John V]

Excellent performance by Ogier, this young man deserves win

[blissard]

Sigh.. what's up with Henning? +27.9 secs at third split.

[John V]

Sigh.. what's up with Henning? +27.9 secs at third split.

Think still problem with the dust for him :(

[blissard]

No more splits coming in, has he stopped?

[John V]

No more splits coming in, has he stopped?
According radio and scanners, it can be broken alternator belt

[White Sauron]

What will be the correct adjective to describe Hirvosen performance during the last 5 rallies?

[jonkka]

Appalling (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/appalling)

[White Sauron]

Appalling (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/appalling)

mmm... or maybe dismal?

[Mirek]

Anyone knows what does it mean DESISTÒNCIA as retirement reason?

[Comal]

Any word on why Tanak out?

[fmcv]

]Anyone knows what does it mean DESISTÒNCIA as retirement reason?

As absurd as it may seem, DESISTÊNCIA (mispelled on the site) means Retirement... So the reason for the retirement is retirement... :rolleyes:

[fmcv]

Any word on why Tanak out?

He went off on a tricky place that some of the portuguese drivers know well. In past Years both Bernardo Sousa and Armindo Araújo hit trouble on that exact place.

[fmcv]

Hanninen out again? heard anything?

[Mirek]

As absurd as it may seem, DESISTÊNCIA (mispelled on the site) means Retirement... So the reason for the retirement is retirement... :rolleyes:

Thank You :D

[mm1]

Is there any rally on which Tanak has finished without crashing, and again from a safe 1st spot in gpN.

[Comal]

He went off on a tricky place that some of the portuguese drivers know well. In past Years both Bernardo Sousa and Armindo Araújo hit trouble on that exact place.

Thanks, shame as he was going so well.

[fmcv]

Is there any rally on which Tanak has finished without crashing, and again from a safe 1st spot in gpN.
I believe you're right but at least he has already got the speed. Now he only needs some more maturity. Other drivers never got to the first step: to be quick... And as they are slow, they never go off! :D

[fmcv]

don't know if this has been posted before... Latvala's crash yesterday morning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2GvReY_85E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2GvReY_85E)

[fmcv]

and some pictures from my colleagues:
http://jalbum.net/browse/user/album/619807/;jsessionid=82hdy1yvhv7g1h7a9snw6aklc

[ridder]

don't know if this has been posted before... Latvala's crash yesterday morning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2GvReY_85E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2GvReY_85E)

Looks kind of similar to last year's crash to me. Coming from fast section to slower corner and touching with left rear wheel.

[N.O.T]

15 mins to the start.

[alleskids]

Vitor Pascoal and Dennis Kuiper are in the SWRC results section, but are they really registered for the SWRC championship? Kuiper is not, only driving a S2000 car for the experience

[6789]

15 mins to the start.
5 mins now, WRR is back up, should be an interesting 3 stages :)

[Rallyper]

Looks kind of similar to last year's crash to me. Coming from fast section to slower corner and touching with left rear wheel.

As you hear him say it was a fast right and he just touched the side of the road. You can hear the bang and that looks to med that he hit a stone or something. And there was a single tree there as well....

To me this was just unluckky. Not a driver error. If it had been Loeb he just had to restart and put first gear and drive away... :rolleyes:

But for the Ford guys the luck isn´t just there. :(

[N.O.T]

But for the Ford guys the luck isn´t just there. :(

yes they were very unlucky in driver choice and manager choice as well....

[N.O.T]

Ogier slower than the morning pass on split 1....maybe conditions are worst

[6789]

yes they were very unlucky in driver choice and manager choice as well....
Petter should have signed there in 07 wasn't it?

Anyway thats how it is i guess

[N.O.T]

Loeb will win the rally....

[jonkka]

Loeb's got 8,8 secs to go

[John V]

Vitor Pascoal and Dennis Kuiper are in the SWRC results section, but are they really registered for the SWRC championship? Kuiper is not, only driving a S2000 car for the experience
Edited: Kuipers not SWRC, Pascoal yes.

[Rallyper]

Loeb will win the rally....

Looks like that, yes. He will never let Seb junior win if he can win himself.

[jonkka]

8,3 seconds...

[jonkka]

8,8 seconds...

[N.O.T]

ogier started to push....

[N.O.T]

YAY !!!! Go OGIER !!!!

[WRC1]

little seb will be the winner! he is too strong for the master!!!

[N.O.T]

YES !!!! Ogier just 0.6 slower....

[HaCo]

Very nice of Ogier. 2 to go! :)

[N.O.T]

LOEB S. / ELENA D. "I think I destroyed more tyres, I went flat out everywhere."

OGIER S. / INGRASSIA J. "I try to push hard as I can. I had small problem at start, went wide. But I don't know how much wear of tyres, but think not important on this afternoon."

from rally.cz

[jonkka]

Mikko seems to go for the third...

[WRC1]

great fight for the win!

must be terrible for ford management to watch this....

[Mirek]

No, they not in SWRC.

Pascoal is guest entry, Kuipers is not counted :)

[N.O.T]

the 105 year plan infant has problems and he is slowing osteberg with his dust as it seems.

[N.O.T]

great fight for 3rd place......

[jonkka]

Mikko won't make it to 3rd... it seems...

[blissard]

What did Petter say at the finish? Is he still having problems with the steering?

[JTLarsen]

Does anybody know if the final SSS will broadcast live on the web?

[fmcv]

it's 9.5

[awake27]

I think is time for Quesnel to tell the Sebastiens to hold positions, 9.5 seconds for 1 stage is too much.

Hirvonen might beat Petter but Sordo must do something wrong to lose the 3rd position.

[Mirek]

What did Petter say at the finish? Is he still having problems with the steering?

SOLBERG P. / MILLS P. (st. č. 11) "Car is OK now, no problem at all. At the end little mistake."

[N.O.T]

I think that citroen team doesn;t need to give orders...the drivers decided that among themselves i think.

[N.O.T]

15 minutes until the last big stage...

[N.O.T]

the last few events are trully exciting....nice

[N.O.T]

LOL at raikonen.....he probably had his second off.....Rautenbach replacement sick F1 kid.

[satukata]

Is there any tv channel or internet where you can see superspecial live?

[Mirek]

Hopefully the same link as for yesterday's stages: http://ww1.rtp.pt/multimedia/emissaoTV.php?tv=4

[6789]

the last few events are trully exciting....nice

NZ would have been amzing to follow at home. I had no idea on the stages lol

[Mirek]

Seems like Nasser is trying to make that 40 seconds to Tuohino in this stage. He's really flying!

[N.O.T]

ss is live

[dimviii]

ss is live

at what our local time?

[jonkka]

8,9 secs to go... if Seb goes - which I don't think he will...

[jonkka]

at what our local time?

Now

[dimviii]

link please?
thanks in advance! :)

[N.O.T]

at what our local time?

i mean the special stage is on....not live on the net..

[jonkka]

8,2 seconds...

[dimviii]

thanks NOT & jonkka :)

[jonkka]

7,7 seconds... if Seb won't win Seb, this'll be one of the closest finishes...

[awake27]

Seems the Sebastiens are not letting off the gas yet.

[jonkka]

and still 7,7 secs...

[N.O.T]

I think its over....

[jonkka]

Now if both would crash, Dani would get his maiden win...

[dimviii]

think that now is impossible for Loeb.
Ogier truly amazing performance for beeing 2 days road sweeper.
Don t think that anybody else have done this to Sebastien Loeb.

[N.O.T]

Hirvonen not that fast....

[Mirek]

Three splits exactly same time, wau!

[blissard]

Petter is fastest so far.., but not enough.

[John V]

No words, simply INCREDIBLE FIGHT

[dimviii]

according to Petters splits, may both Sebs are backing off...

[N.O.T]

I wonder how Sordo feels now...ogier did (most likely) in 1.5 years what he is trying to do for 4....

WELL DONE SEBASTIEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hartusvuori]

7,7 seconds... if Seb won't win Seb, this'll be one of the closest finishes...

The big plan is to steal closest win from Grönholm (NZ 07). Seb will win little Seb by 0,1s... Judging by the splits though he won't, and neither will Mikko reach 3rd.

[N.O.T]

OGIER S. / INGRASSIA J. Broken windscreen "We did a good stage. I think he just fly, we will see."

rally.cz

[N.O.T]

ITS OVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!

WELL DONE OGIER !!!!!!!!!!

amazing fight amazing victory after sweeping for 2 days !!!!!

Championship material !!!!!!

[N.O.T]

of course he might pull a latvala on the super special one .......

[dimviii]

Nasser 22,8 sec behind Tuohino.Lets see that battle in last proper ss.

[N.O.T]

LOEB S. / ELENA D. "Seb Ogier was really fast. We lost much on first day. I can't do much better. Now is over. We have new rival."

Indeed......the king is under threat !!!!!!!

[Mirek]

Incredible, they drove 9 minutes in exactly same all split times!

[N.O.T]

the quitter does justice to his name......!!!!!!

[Hartusvuori]

It's really refreshing to have a Citroen driver able to beat Loeb - though Loeb's huge lead in the championship might have a lot to do with. However - first maiden victory since Latvala's Sweden 2008 which of course is refreshing as well. Very well done by Ogier! Though it ain't over until it's over...

[awake27]

think that now is impossible for Loeb.
Ogier truly amazing performance for beeing 2 days road sweeper.
Don t think that anybody else have done this to Sebastien Loeb.
I think the key point that Ogier won Loeb is that 2nd passes. Loeb yesterday and today couldn't reduce the gap significantly while Ogier on Friday on the 2nd passes was still taking chunks of time. Maybe Loeb took it little bit more easy on Friday and he did a mistake yesterday on SS11 when he looked the tyres according to Sordo's split times than Ogier's (Quesnel said so, driver-team misuderstading which splits to send to Loeb's car).

[HaCo]

Will this be first victory for a B-team?

[alleskids]

]Pascoal is guest entry, Kuipers is not counted :)

Is Pascoal a wildcard entry for the SWRC?

[tolis]

Yes alleskids!

[N.O.T]

Very nice rally...very nice result...everyone got what the deserved....

CITOREN = 1-2-3-4

FORD = 105 year plan for the son of the manager

Maybe next year ford hires more 5th-6th place contenders like ketomaa and PG and the battle with the current lineup is better for the losing places

[N.O.T]

the sss is just typical now.

[pantealex]

Is Pascoal a wildcard entry for the SWRC?
Yes, he is.

[alleskids]

thanks guys :)

[ridder]

Very nice rally...very nice result...everyone got what the deserved....


I'd say based on speed Solberg "deserved" to be ahead of Sordo. Too bad for this morning.

Else standings do kind of reflect speed now, though I still think Loeb would win if he pushed just a bit more on Friday.

[blissard]

Slightly offtopic.. are your tabs in your browser just loading and loading on wrc.com? I'm using Firefox, and they never stop loading.

[John V]

Else standings do kind of reflect speed now, though I still think Loeb would win if he pushed just a bit more on Friday.

But ... did somebody believed on Friday evening that Ogier will be able to remain 1st for Saturday and Sunday as roadsweeper ? I have to say me personally not, although expected he will be pretty quick. So thumbs up to him!

[Mirek]

Slightly offtopic.. are your tabs in your browser just loading and loading on wrc.com? I'm using Firefox, and they never stop loading.

Tried Opera 10.53, Firefox 3.6.3 and IE 6.0 and all seems to work well.

[N.O.T]

if everything stay

1. Loeb 126
2. Ogier 88
3. Hirvonen 74
4. Latvala 72
5. Solberg 65
6. Sordo 49

[pino makinen]

I wonder how Sordo feels now...ogier did (most likely) in 1.5 years what he is trying to do for 4....

He must be very dissapointed. With himself first, as he has not manage to win a single WRC event and now Seb probably will, he deserves it. Probably with his team too, since he was never allowed to fight Loeb a win, the very few occasions he had. Anyway, if he manages to be ahead of Mikko like in Portugal (with no problems it seems possible), I think there's a chance to have a different seat next year.

BTW, I wonder what Loeb is feeling if he finishes 2nd here, if he thinks of Mikko, Italy 2009 and the point difference in the standings last year. Last year he was also leading by a big gap and he had to fight tough at the end. One might think that it can't happen two years in a row, but remember '91 and '92 seasons, when there were two guys who, by midseason it was almost done, but they finally lost the tittle.

[N.O.T]

next event is going to be live for me :)

[N.O.T]

BTW, I wonder what Loeb is feeling if he finishes 2nd here, if he thinks of Mikko, Italy 2009 and the point difference in the standings last year. Last year he was also leading by a big gap and he had to fight tough at the end. One might think that it can't happen two years in a row, but remember '91 and '92 seasons, when there were two guys who, by midseason it was almost done, but they finally lost the tittle.

the main difference is that the closest rival is someone that citroen controls (Jordan anyone ?)so he doesn;t have the same pressure. the ford kids are nothing this year, so even if Loeb retires in some events i doubt the ford boys can win them.

[ridder]

4 out of 7 rallies remaining are on Tarmac.

There Sordo has same speed as Loeb, don't think Ogier will be close to that.
Also Loeb used to say "I'm as fast as the other guys on gravel but faster on tarmac".

[Mirek]

Nasser passed Tuohino who had some problem and lost a looot of time.

[Tom206wrc]

I wonder if Petter will use SSS to take 3rd from Dani(4" is gap) :confused:

[N.O.T]

i don't think he can even if he tries...the top 10 were 2 seconds apart first time through.

[dimviii]

I wonder if Petter will use SSS to take 3rd from Dani(4" is gap) :confused:

on Friday sss they had 0,1 sec gap.So without problem is imposible

[HaCo]

Petter will go for it, that's how he is, he is a great sportsman!

[BVB Rallying]

It looks like Kevin Abbring is going to win his second J-WRC-victory in his carreer and again on gravel!!! :D :D :D
Hopefully Hans Weijs jr. can show in Bulgaria what he is capable of.

[N.O.T]

abbring and Hans are not capable of anything

[Walach]

Still, it's better than sitting at the computer and doing wisdoms.

[GigiGalliNo1]

So how long till the SSS?

[Ghostwalker]

So how long till the SSS?

about 15 minutes.

[fmcv]

15 minutes
If it goes live onthye web I'll let you know. The link must be the same as Yesterday's.

[tolis]

The programme says that it will go live in 18 minutes in this link: http://ww1.rtp.pt/multimedia/emissaoTV.php?tv=4

[fmcv]

yes, that should be the correct link... Its RTP Mobile link. Sometimes they put other of the RTP channels on that mobile service. I hope that won't happen this time...

[HaCo]

Nothing on the screen but kids, pitty :(

[Ghostwalker]

Nothing on the screen but kids, pitty :(

it says Rally from 14.00 local time.

[HaCo]

Okido, tuning in again :D

[fmcv]

It's usual. Things never start on time... but at the end of the news we will have our ss

[fmcv]

it should be live now

[muscrae]

It should be live now for the top drivers...

[Ghostwalker]

also it doesnt work in Firefox for me but it works in Internet Explorer.

[dimviii]

just listening,not clear screen :(

[blissard]

just listening,not clear screen :(

Change between tabs and back. It might help.

[Mirek]

Meanwhile an epic fail of Red Bull in F1 - both their drivers collided while driving first and second :D

[muscrae]

]Meanwhile an epic fail of Red Bull in F1 - both their drivers collided while driving first and second :D

They tasted wrong Turkish Delight :D

[dimviii]

Change between tabs and back. It might help.

sorted thank you! :)

[Ghostwalker]

i think Petter lost the battle for third there. A very slow start.

[Ghostwalker]

PETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what are you doing??? there goes his 4th place

[Dejan]

solberg wtf???? :eek:

[blissard]

Petter crashed..................... lost 4th place to Mikko.

[fmcv]

so much for the 1-2-3-4 for Citroen

[muscrae]

Petter lose it all !!!!

He lost 14.7 sec !

[Dejan]

Bravo Ogier, well deserved win!!!

[Ghostwalker]

Congratulations to Sebastien Ogier for his 1st WRC victory :)

[Hartusvuori]

Six rallies, four winners. Not bad for current WRC. Thank you Ogier & Citroen for this victory.

I think the thought on the back of Hirvonen's mind is: "What the hell I'm going to do with those Citroen drivers in Finland..."

[muscrae]

Congrulations Sébastien Ogier !
Brilliant perfomance on a definite commitment, definitely deserved victory and probably the harbinger of the others... Fabulous job, Well Done! :)

[GigiGalliNo1]

Well done, fantastic to see a different winner in the mix... Now when will Sordo get a chance with victory?

[Mirek]

Bravo Ogier, nothing more to say.

[AndyRAC]

Felicitations!!
A truly great performance, running first on the road for 2 days.

[blissard]

Congratulations Ogier! :)

[mdesign]

Ogier is right in front of me on the podium!!! great result! congratulations to this future champion!
Solberg crashed agains one barrier, and lost the front bumper and some time

[Tomi]

Congrats to Ogier, a win by driving and not by anyones missfortune, nice to have a new WRC winner, and this will for sure not be his last win.
Pity that the S2000 was over just when the fun was about to begin, but nice to see anyway where each driver goes about, now when the best was present.

[mdesign]

check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SodV1sq3N2M

[koko0703]

Congratulations, Ogier! It's always fantastic to see a young driver taking his maiden victory :)

[White Sauron]

I wonder what Dani's feeling now((( Before this event he was bullish regarding his chances over Ogier. But now...

[urabus-denoS2000]

Congratulations Seb !!

[N.O.T]

yes yes very nice driving......

peter is stupid.

[blissard]

yes yes very nice driving......

peter is stupid.

Peter who?

Peter Gabriel? Peter Schmeichel? Peter Griffin? Peter Pan?

[N.O.T]

the gabriel one.

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/716/716_hirvonen__lehtinen_%28ford_focus_wrc%29_f2e136 2079.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/716/716_raikkonen__lindstrom_%28citroen_c4_wrc%29_469d beeac4.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/716/716_final_podium_960a53d6cb.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/716/716_ostberg__andersson_%28subaru_impreza_wrc%29_2a 26e6bf50.jpg

Complete gallery from Rally de Portugal you can see HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=716&fseason=2010) ;)

[Mirek]

Just got information that Juho Hänninen again broke wheel. Only this time it was on the other side of the car :D

[Josti]

Four different winners in one season, haven't seen that in a while. Great for Ogier, well deserved.

I wonder what Sordo thinks right now...

[N.O.T]

sordo is in a strange position....lets not forget that Ogier can go flat out without any regrets....Sordo has a very important job in the team this year.

[Tomi]

lets not forget that Ogier can go flat out without any regrets....

According to him self in an interview he gave to mtv3, the team hold him back in mexico.

[jacko]

Ogier is the new man, his first time in the C4 in rally UK it was already impressive, last season in his first complete year it was good, quik learner and now this year so far, it's really really good. He is for sure a big thread for Loeb, already this year!
Ogier is fast on tarmac and if there's a mistake by Loeb he's there.
Very interesting. I'm glad there's Ogier (and also P.Solberg) in the C4 because Ford is letting it complete down...

[bluuford]

Ogier is not typical French driver. He is much faster on gravel than on tarmac. He is about the same level on tarmac as Mikko right now. But with some more testing.. this guy can develop fast.

And about what happened to Tänak. It was tricky corner where many Portuguese drivers have had offs. It was tightening corner and they slide a little bit wide hit the bank slightly with the rear end of the car and it took the first part out off the road as well. As a result joint broke down and their rally ended there.

The question about his retirements:
1. He retired in Turkey due to the communication problem between him and co-driver. He understood that after the jump there is a straight but there was the rock-face and it ended up as his biggest crash.

2. In Sweden he retired after the last stage due to the technical problems.

3. In Arctic Rally he drove first time with WRC car and retired due to the engine problem.

4. In Estonian Winter-Rally he won with his Subaru in front of Gross Focus WRC

5. At the end of last year he won the Gr N in Saaremaa Rally and Estonian title.

6. He won minirally in the frames of Pirelli stardriver competition

7. He went off in stage 7 in Finland after the jump when one suspension component broke down during the landing.

8. He finished in 20th place in Rally Portugal last year. He had to use superally for the last stage of the first leg because due to his low starting position he caught slower car and while driving in dust he damaged the steering slightly and to avoid bigger damage they decided to drive back to service instead of going to the last stage and doing more damage to the car.

9. Last year he also won Estonian Winterrally, South-Estonian rally and won Gr N in Viru Rally

10.Finished second in Talsi rally in Latvia. He had puncture on the last stage and lost the win by only 3-4 seconds.

Practically he has won 6 rallies (at least in his calss)
He has finished 2nd only once
Has used superally once in Portugal
Retired twice due to the technical problems
and has had two offs due to mistakes by him or codriver
one off as a result of technical failiure.
And it has happened in approximately one year.

[rbatista82]

Here it goes the first group of photos from the Rally of Portugal 2010:
http://www.supermotores.net/sm/fotos.asp?id=164

More to come...

[silverbackPR]

The 1993 WRC champions Juha Kankkunen and Nicky Grist teamed up again to reign supreme at the Rallye de Portugal Revival, driving a Ford Escort Mk2 using Pirelli's K2 gravel tyres. The rally was run in conjunction with the WRC competing on the same stages. Well done guys.
A full report and a blow by blow account from Nicky will be in his next newsletter. If you want subscribe to his free newsletter, please mail [email:23w9w29o]news@nickygrist.com[/email:23w9w29o]

[alexlake]

Im a Loeb fan, but really pleased for Ogier. seems a really nice guy, and very very quick, like JML, just he seems to have learned much quicker. From the second half of last season, Ogier has been great to watch. Looking forward to the rest of the season!

[playmo]

Sordo will never be allowed to win, as long as he is in THAT team, opposite to the case of Ogier because despite being under the rule of Quesnell, Ogier scores points for other team, besides: HE'S FRENCH!.
Seb Jr. would make a mistake accepting the seat for 2nd driver on official team because it has all this "support role" restrictions, and his talent could be wasted
My 2 cents.
Cheers

[maxter]

Ehm. In what way would he be more restricted because he scores points for the works team? If Quesnel wants Loeb to score maximum points and Ogier to slow down to make it happen, it will happen regardless if Ogier is in the works team or junior team. If anything, he would be allowed more room to score points if they are given to the primary team.
We've already seen Ogier sacrifice himself this season, remember?

[rbatista82]

More photos from the Rally de Portugal 2010
http://www.supermotores.net/sm/fotos.asp?id=165

[fastboy]

After spectating on the rally i was really impressed with the stages ,they had a bit of everything,and Rally Portugal defernately deserves a permanent place on the calendar .The only problem we had was with the police not letting you walk on the stages even 3 hours before the first car!
Ogier fully deserved the win and anyone that can clean the road for 2 days and still win is going to become a world champion very soon.I am not a Citroen fan but full credit to them for allowing the 2 Seb's to battle it out to the end.
Here is my video of the event:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_KT_wKN7ec

[jbmarcus21]

Pics from Rally Portugal http://planetemarcus.free.fr/photosportugalrally10.htm

[MikeD]

Hi,

Can anybody help me with pictures of the car no. 66 from rally portugal. it's a Peugeot 307 WRC with Spyrus Pavildes behind the wheel.

Thanks in advance :)

[Sardalense]

Hi,

Can anybody help me with pictures of the car no. 66 from rally portugal. it's a Peugeot 307 WRC with Spyrus Pavildes behind the wheel.

Thanks in advance :)

I have some, send me a PM with your email.

[superbolide]

Have you photos with registred plate 307 WRC from TURAN Frigues and PAVLIDES Spyros.

It's for update : http://pagesperso-orange.fr/j.dhs/307/index.htm

Thanks :p :

[Sardalense]

Have you photos with registred plate 307 WRC from TURAN Frigues and PAVLIDES Spyros.

It's for update : http://pagesperso-orange.fr/j.dhs/307/index.htm

Thanks :p :

#63 - 862 ATN 69
#66 - 99 AKF 69

[playmo]

Ehm. In what way would he be more restricted because he scores points for the works team? If Quesnel wants Loeb to score maximum points and Ogier to slow down to make it happen, it will happen regardless if Ogier is in the works team or junior team. If anything, he would be allowed more room to score points if they are given to the primary team.
We've already seen Ogier sacrifice himself this season, remember?

But didn't Quesnell and Wilson made an agreement on no more "tactics" (cheats i would call that) that meant that Only team boss can tell his TWO drivers what to do, but not interfere with "other" teams, and as far as i know citroen junior has a different team boss than citroen total, besides, Sordo is not french!
And i think that Quesnell can afford to let any other driver win "a few" rallies this season, since its been demonstrated by ford drivers that they can't match in consistency to citroen drivers, hence Loeb could very well be given the world drivers tittle already at this point in the season, and no one could argue that.

This kid Ogier has all that takes to beat Loeb in the world record books, hope he don't make the stupid descision to go to Ford...
Cheers

PS. The Hirvonen situation is worriying, he had the speed, and seems that the stupid car is doing to him what the 307 did to Gronholm, and maybe too to JM

[superbolide]

#63 - 862 ATN 69
#66 - 99 AKF 69

Thanks - Best Regards ;)

[giangino]

Photos rally de Portugal 2010 online .... http://www.avetowrc.com/ ;)

[Langdale Forest]

sordo is in a strange position....lets not forget that Ogier can go flat out without any regrets....Sordo has a very important job in the team this year.

It's a bad situation for Sordo, he is good, but he was never allowed to win for unknown reasons.....


He is really, shall I say, a future useless nobody....

[Langdale Forest]

LOL at raikonen.....he probably had his second off.....Rautenbach replacement sick F1 kid.

:rotflmao:

You said that he is the future of the human race.... :rolleyes:

[Langdale Forest]

yes yes very nice driving......

peter is stupid.


Stop diminishing a world champion!!!! :mad:

[J4MIE]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs338.ash1/29048_10150194098530612_529115611_12940336_474121_ n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs544.ash1/31798_10150192922365612_529115611_12894293_7872631 _n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs544.ash1/31798_10150192922360612_529115611_12894292_5503574 _n.jpg

[J4MIE]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs634.snc3/31798_10150192922450612_529115611_12894305_3713302 _n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs329.snc3/29048_10150194098660612_529115611_12940353_4557485 _n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs329.snc3/29048_10150194098965612_529115611_12940390_2456891 _n.jpg

[pettersolberg29]

Great photos.

[Barreis]

I like the photos..

[fastboy]

Great photos Jamie,did you have fun getting away from the GNR?

[J4MIE]

Great photos Jamie,did you have fun getting away from the GNR?

Well apart from getting my arms and legs shredded on the bushes it did have its moments, we found a great access road and it really saved us on the first two days. I just found the whole thing with them totally rediculous :s One of them actually walked along the road watching us walking along a field to make sure that we weren't on the road... Was the only thing I thought wasn't so good about an awesome event :up: We drove a few of the stages and they are really incredible, found "Latvala's Bend" and it is even scarier than it looks on tv..... gees what a lucky guy :s

[J4MIE]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs634.snc3/31798_10150192922460612_529115611_12894307_2866352 _n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs338.ash1/29048_10150194098570612_529115611_12940341_2971787 _n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs309.snc3/29048_10150194098720612_529115611_12940362_6747818 _n.jpg

[J4MIE]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs309.snc3/29048_10150194098985612_529115611_12940392_1885546 _n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs309.snc3/29048_10150194098855612_529115611_12940378_1575853 _n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs544.ash1/31798_10150192922390612_529115611_12894296_6173070 _n.jpg

[rbatista82]

More photos from the Rally of Portugal 2010
http://www.supermotores.net/sm/fotos.asp?id=166
http://www.supermotores.net/sm/fotos.asp?id=167

[Dingardo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tONMYTUrA4s

rally highlights video that I pieced together

[Hartusvuori]

We drove a few of the stages and they are really incredible, found "Latvala's Bend" and it is even scarier than it looks on tv..... gees what a lucky guy :s

Found this (http://www.plopcrew.net/galleria/portugali2010010.jpg) from a Finnish forum. That perhaps the Latvala's Bend, right?

Here's (http://www.plopcrew.net/galleria/portugali2010.php) their whole gallery.

[J4MIE]

Yeah that's the place :)

[Barreis]

Photos of plop's are great..

[Francis44]

Best pic I found, from Madeira-ralis.com

http://madeira-ralis.com/images/stories/momento/fotodomomento.jpg

One of the best I've seen.